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Ron Madden
09-21-2021, 03:16 PM
Reds
1. Jonathan India (R) 2B
2. Max Schrock (L) LF
3. Nick Castellanos (R) RF
4. Joey Votto (L) 1B
5. Kyle Farmer (R) SS
6. Eugenio Suarez (R) 3B
7. Tucker Barnhart (L) C
8. TJ Friedl (L) CF
9. Tyler Mahle (R) P


Pirates
1. Ke'Bryan Hayes (R) 3B
2. Cole Tucker (S) SS
3. Bryan Reynolds (S) CF
4. Colin Moran (L) 1B
5. Ben Gamel (L) RF
6. Anthony Alford (R) LF
7. Michael Perez (L) C
8. Hoy Park (L) 2B
9. Mitch Keller (R) P

DocRed
09-21-2021, 03:25 PM
Good to see Friedl get a shot.

Glad to see management finally realize that Moose is worse than Geno even vs RHP.

KeefeCato
09-21-2021, 03:50 PM
Ron, Is this getting rained out?

DocRed
09-21-2021, 03:58 PM
Ron, Is this getting rained out?

Latest Cincy forecast showing no or low chance of rain until 10pm. We should be good. Tomorrow looks ugly though

Ron Madden
09-21-2021, 04:08 PM
Ron, Is this getting rained out?

Like Doc said local forecast predicting we should be able to get tonight's game in.

They're not real sure either way about the game tomorrow

KeefeCato
09-21-2021, 04:15 PM
Like Doc said local forecast predicting we should be able to get tonight's game in.

They're not real sure either way about the game tomorrow

If it gets rained out. Guessing if it still means anything they would play a DH in Pitt. last series of the season. With the Reds being the home team in one game. If they are eliminated doubt they even bother to make it up.

Kc61
09-21-2021, 04:17 PM
If it gets rained out. Guessing if it still means anything they would play a DH in Pitt. last series of the season. With the Reds being the home team in one game. If they are eliminated doubt they even bother to make it up.

Both teams have off days on Monday. Reds would not have to travel. Pirates would need to fly over from Philly. So, another option.

DocRed
09-21-2021, 04:27 PM
Both teams have off days on Monday. Reds would not have to travel. Pirates would need to fly over from Philly. So, another option.

Would prefer a home game...unless Mahle is pitching. Then by all means lets play it in Pittsburgh!

CySeymour
09-21-2021, 05:17 PM
Good to see Friedl get a shot.

Glad to see management finally realize that Moose is worse than Geno even vs RHP.

Agreed. At least with Geno there is the chance he could run into one.

NebraskaRed
09-21-2021, 05:21 PM
This will be the 4th time the Reds have faced Keller this year. Reds are 2-1 against him.

Keller's last start was against the Reds in a 5-4 Reds loss.

mhs95_06
09-21-2021, 05:54 PM
Both teams have off days on Monday. Reds would not have to travel. Pirates would need to fly over from Philly. So, another option.

Seems like the most likely option.

NebraskaRed
09-21-2021, 06:41 PM
Keys to the game:

-Score more runs than your opponent
-Don't let your opponent score more runs than you

JohnnyBench5
09-21-2021, 06:43 PM
Go Redlegs!

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RedForLife
09-21-2021, 06:43 PM
On Aug. 3, 1989 the Reds scored 14 runs on 16 hits in the first inning against the Astros in Cincinnati. It's been too long for the Reds to have another inning like that. We're overdue! Go Reds!

Tom Servo
09-21-2021, 06:48 PM
Walks will haunt.

Ironman92
09-21-2021, 06:48 PM
Lol at Tucker

coryfly
09-21-2021, 06:49 PM
Multiple strikes that Mahle hasn't got and that last one would have been a double play.

Ironman92
09-21-2021, 06:49 PM
Glad Farmer was great on that first play

JP321
09-21-2021, 06:49 PM
He has got to quit nibbling all the time

mhs95_06
09-21-2021, 06:49 PM
Ump struggling to get all strikes called, while he's 100% on balls!

NebraskaRed
09-21-2021, 06:54 PM
5000 pitches later and Mahle gets out of a jam.

Boston Red
09-21-2021, 06:55 PM
Would love for Mahle to go deeper, but I am 100% okay if he can only throw 5 shutout innings today.

mhs95_06
09-21-2021, 06:55 PM
Mahle final got his zero in the first inning on the 24 pitches after he should have been out of the inning on the 13th pitch.

Bob Sheed
09-21-2021, 06:59 PM
wow there's like 35 people at the ole ballpark tonight.

NebraskaRed
09-21-2021, 07:04 PM
Gonna cancel MLB TV just so that I never have to watch that Peloton commercial ever again.

Ironman92
09-21-2021, 07:09 PM
Pirates plate approaches against Mahle are awful.

Bob Sheed
09-21-2021, 07:10 PM
Gonna cancel MLB TV just so that I never have to watch that Peloton commercial ever again.

That's not even the worst of them.

In no particular order:

"He just won the gaaaame!"
The Viagra commercials
Budweiser lie detector test
Liberty Liberty Liberty.... Liberty....
James Earl Jones Field of Dreams quote

There are worse ones, I probably blocked them out of my brain.

Bob Sheed
09-21-2021, 07:15 PM
"Need ya on 3rd, Farmie..."

JP321
09-21-2021, 07:16 PM
Geno with a nice poke thru WIDE open hole... love it

mhs95_06
09-21-2021, 07:17 PM
Reds could have used this bat control style 5 weeks ago!

NebraskaRed
09-21-2021, 07:17 PM
Petition to get Jim Day fired if he ever does that Rodney Dangerfield impression again.

mhs95_06
09-21-2021, 07:18 PM
But Tucker, everyone has to do it, not hit into the teeth of the shift!

TheBigLebowski
09-21-2021, 07:18 PM
That’s baseball. You just gotta forget that at bat and get him next time.

Bob Sheed
09-21-2021, 07:19 PM
Amazon garage door commercial rapidly climbing the lame commercial list.

Tom Servo
09-21-2021, 07:19 PM
Well that was the least productive way to take a lead with runners on the corners and no outs but the lead was taken nonetheless

1-0 Good Guys

JP321
09-21-2021, 07:20 PM
Well that was the least efficient way to take a lead with runners on the corners and no outs but the lead was taken nonetheless

1-0 Good Guys

Agree... but we scored. Been a struggle lately

NebraskaRed
09-21-2021, 07:20 PM
I know there isn't a better option right now, but Tucker's ABs have been pretty bad for a while.

Kc61
09-21-2021, 07:26 PM
But Tucker, everyone has to do it, not hit into the teeth of the shift!

Run scored.

Doesn’t always score in that spot. Lot of guys strike out.

Fine.

kaldaniels
09-21-2021, 07:30 PM
Mahle grooved a few that inning and got away with it.

mhs95_06
09-21-2021, 07:30 PM
Mahle setting himself up to lose the W due to a blown save, after we used all those upper tier relievers last night. 62 pitches in 3 innings!

Big Klu
09-21-2021, 07:31 PM
Anyone else lose the Bally feed?

NebraskaRed
09-21-2021, 07:32 PM
Can't fault Mahle for trying for two

kaldaniels
09-21-2021, 07:33 PM
Can't fault Mahle for trying for two

Lollygagged to first.

Roy Tucker
09-21-2021, 07:33 PM
First base coach needs to be saying nooooooooo…

RedsfaninMT
09-21-2021, 07:33 PM
Lollygagged to first.

Nothing but a bunch of lollygaggers!

kaldaniels
09-21-2021, 07:34 PM
I’m eyeballing Larkin big time now that there is suspicion he’s angling for the manager job.

I’m glad he seemed annoyed that Mahle went for 2.

Roy Tucker
09-21-2021, 07:35 PM
Nick is going to take one out

OldFashionedRed
09-21-2021, 07:37 PM
Larkin makes the sleepy in my eyes fall asleep, when listening to him on television.

But he does seem to have a dislike for poor fundamentals.

kaldaniels
09-21-2021, 07:39 PM
Larkin makes the sleepy in my eyes fall asleep, when listening to him on television.

But he does seem to have a dislike for poor fundamentals.

I’m hoping for the best.

Maybe he’s one of those guys who kicks it up several notches once the clubhouse doors lock.

Roy Tucker
09-21-2021, 07:40 PM
Looking at radar, they have about an hour.

Bob Sheed
09-21-2021, 07:40 PM
#6

https://media.giphy.com/media/UoSaoM9U7GXm0yMr17/giphy.gif

NebraskaRed
09-21-2021, 07:40 PM
Looking at radar, they have about an hour.

Just enough time for Mahle to get another AB so he can hit a grand slam.

RedsfaninMT
09-21-2021, 07:41 PM
Ugh!

Roy Tucker
09-21-2021, 07:41 PM
GABP special there.

Bob Sheed
09-21-2021, 07:41 PM
Aaaaand then gives up a HR.

https://media.giphy.com/media/VHwqHVsl4qrNzsFX8g/giphy.gif

mhs95_06
09-21-2021, 07:42 PM
Going forward Mahle will throw an even lower percentage of strikes in GABP as he gives up a broken bat HR!

cumberlandreds
09-21-2021, 07:43 PM
Looking at radar, they have about an hour.

Raining now. Better hurry!

OldFashionedRed
09-21-2021, 07:43 PM
Honest opinions: does Barrero get to that bouncer?

Kc61
09-21-2021, 07:44 PM
Glad no replay on that caught stealing. Looked pretty close.

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Honest opinions: does Barrero get to that bouncer?

On RedsZone or in real life?

OldFashionedRed
09-21-2021, 07:45 PM
Maybe less bling for that guy. Looked just like the throw-out yesterday.

Tom Servo
09-21-2021, 07:45 PM
Push more runs across and let the rain do it’s thing

OldFashionedRed
09-21-2021, 07:46 PM
Glad no replay on that caught stealing. Looked pretty close.

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On RedsZone or in real life?

That's a tough one. :laugh:

Roy Tucker
09-21-2021, 07:46 PM
Honest opinions: does Barrero get to that bouncer?

That’s a shift positioning hit. If Farmer plays in the traditional SS position, he has that.

OldFashionedRed
09-21-2021, 07:47 PM
That’s a shift positioning hit. If Farmer plays in the traditional SS position, he has that.

I watched it probably 4 or 5 times, I wasn't sure if it was a shift thing or not. He did look to be running a bit flat-footed so I didn't know if this was really a speed issue.

TheBigLebowski
09-21-2021, 07:48 PM
Giving up a home run to a Gamel should at least be a misdemeanor.

Roy Tucker
09-21-2021, 07:48 PM
You’d think Joey could afford a T-shirt without a rip in it.

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I watched it probably 4 or 5 times, I wasn't sure if it was a shift thing or not. He did look to be running a bit flat-footed so I didn't know if this was really a speed issue.

Dunno. I just had the live look and my half-assed opinion.

Bob Sheed
09-21-2021, 07:50 PM
https://media.giphy.com/media/jpbgnQgnKxcvQ6nzAQ/giphy-downsized-large.gif

Roy Tucker
09-21-2021, 07:51 PM
People are leaving their seats.

Ky Fried Redleg
09-21-2021, 07:51 PM
Geno with a nice poke thru WIDE open hole... love it

Just got home. Is this a Reds' game thread or an adult film thread? Geno with a new career?

Ky Fried Redleg
09-21-2021, 07:53 PM
Larkin makes the sleepy in my eyes fall asleep, when listening to him on television.

But he does seem to have a dislike for poor fundamentals.

Agree and agree!!!

cumberlandreds
09-21-2021, 07:54 PM
People are leaving their seats.

Don't they know their seats will get wet now?:)

cumberlandreds
09-21-2021, 07:55 PM
Farmer just keeps on hitting.

Roy Tucker
09-21-2021, 07:56 PM
Don't they know their seats will get wet now?:)

<trombone sounds>

Larkin’s starting 2022 SS, Kyle Farmer.

OldFashionedRed
09-21-2021, 07:56 PM
Nothing like using your bat to scratch your armpit. :laugh:

cumberlandreds
09-21-2021, 07:56 PM
The bases are drunk with no outs.

OldFashionedRed
09-21-2021, 07:57 PM
Good job, Geno! If they can't find a 3B next season, Geno needs to be there.

NebraskaRed
09-21-2021, 07:57 PM
Tucker...

coryfly
09-21-2021, 07:58 PM
Bases loaded and no outs for Tucker. Pops it up. Has been up with 5 people on in two plate appearances and has hit into a DP to drive in one. Just not good hitting.

OldFashionedRed
09-21-2021, 07:58 PM
Tucker wasn't "close" there :laugh:

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Friedl reminds me of Woody on Cheers. Love the long, ratty hair!

coryfly
09-21-2021, 08:00 PM
Well, the rookie at least drives one in. Got the lead back.

NebraskaRed
09-21-2021, 08:00 PM
The rookie does what Tucker couldn't.

cumberlandreds
09-21-2021, 08:00 PM
Friedl gets it done.

OldFashionedRed
09-21-2021, 08:01 PM
Gamel throws faster than he runs, lol. Good job, Votto. Now, let's get some rain in here.

Ironman92
09-21-2021, 08:01 PM
That was a TERRIBLE effort by the left fielder…holy crap literally every fundamental on that play was missing.

KeefeCato
09-21-2021, 08:01 PM
I already like Friedl better than Sogo and Aquino combined.

Roy Tucker
09-21-2021, 08:02 PM
That was a TERRIBLE effort by the left fielder…holy crap literally every fundamental on that play was missing.

I had the same thought.

KeefeCato
09-21-2021, 08:02 PM
That was a TERRIBLE effort by the left fielder…holy crap literally every fundamental on that play was missing.

He made a couple horrible plays during the last Reds- Pirates series. Terrible OFer.

OldFashionedRed
09-21-2021, 08:02 PM
I already like Friedl better than Sogo and Aquino combined.

Half the size, twice the players.

cumberlandreds
09-21-2021, 08:02 PM
I already like Friedl better than Sogo and Aquino combined.

Yea, where has this guy been all year? I know, Louieville.

TheBigLebowski
09-21-2021, 08:04 PM
Bases juiced, no out, 1 run.

1st and 3rd, no out, 1 run.

And this is a marked improvement.

Ky Fried Redleg
09-21-2021, 08:05 PM
Good job, Geno! If they can't find a 3B next season, Geno needs to be there.

Where's our Moose tonight? Isn't he usually out there against a righty? Is he injured or did they finally fire him?

Ironman92
09-21-2021, 08:08 PM
I had the same thought.

If you are an outfielder you are praying for that EXACT ball and distance with Votto running.

I can’t say the last time I’ve seen a full effort momentum with crow hop throw to let the bae runners know…..you better damn not even think about it.

That guy played that like an uncoached 12u rec ball left fielder.

Bob Sheed
09-21-2021, 08:08 PM
Where's our Moose tonight? Isn't he usually out there against a righty? Is he injured or did they finally fire him?

Found him.

https://media.giphy.com/media/wOjQ7aKWQ4vBK/giphy.gif

kaldaniels
09-21-2021, 08:09 PM
Found him.

https://media.giphy.com/media/wOjQ7aKWQ4vBK/giphy.gif

It’s funny because he’s fat.

Ironman92
09-21-2021, 08:09 PM
Stupid mound

Roy Tucker
09-21-2021, 08:09 PM
On that 0-2 pitch, Mahle needs to not groove a easily bunted pitch. Make him reach.

KeefeCato
09-21-2021, 08:10 PM
Well as expected Friedl and Shogo do have one thing in common. Noodle arms.

Ironman92
09-21-2021, 08:10 PM
Bad instincts there by Votto….that throw didn’t have a chance as base runner got a good jump and was moving

OldFashionedRed
09-21-2021, 08:10 PM
What's Friedl's natural position? Barnhart fumbled that play.

Ironman92
09-21-2021, 08:10 PM
Too many barrels

Coopdaddy67
09-21-2021, 08:10 PM
The mound and angle slowed that down just enough to not give Barnhart a chance.

Yuck.

mhs95_06
09-21-2021, 08:11 PM
Now we now the Friedl arm is not very strong, and failure to cut it off cost a 3rd run.

OldFashionedRed
09-21-2021, 08:11 PM
LOL......Friedl doesn't have an arm, and takes too many steps before releasing it.

Bob Sheed
09-21-2021, 08:12 PM
It’s funny because he’s fat.

Moreso this though:

2021 Stats

AB 183
R 21
H 38
HR 6
RBI 22
SB 0
AVG .208
OBP .282
OPS .653

combined with


In 2021, Moustakas will earn a base salary of $14,000,000

combined with the player the Reds are actually getting:

https://media.giphy.com/media/wOjQ7aKWQ4vBK/giphy.gif

cumberlandreds
09-21-2021, 08:12 PM
Mahle's home struggles continue.

JFLegal
09-21-2021, 08:12 PM
mahle in full choke mode this inning.

KeefeCato
09-21-2021, 08:12 PM
Better hope the rain holds off now. Suck to lose a rain shortened game.

Kinsm
09-21-2021, 08:13 PM
What's Friedl's natural position? Barnhart fumbled that play.

His best spot would be LF in the show, but he doesn't have the power to play there. He's probably a 4th outfielder, can play all 3 if need be.

Roy Tucker
09-21-2021, 08:13 PM
Friedl double-clutched both hits to him. Not sure it would have made any difference, but it has to be catch-throw, not catch-motion-throw.

JFLegal
09-21-2021, 08:13 PM
got mahle the lead. took him like 3 seconds to blow it.

OldFashionedRed
09-21-2021, 08:14 PM
Against one of the worst teams in baseball, at risk of pitching less than 5 innings.

Good Lord, I miss the way the game used to be played.

coryfly
09-21-2021, 08:14 PM
Mahle just isn't very good at GABP for some reason, which is a problem when he pitches on a team that plays at GABP.

KeefeCato
09-21-2021, 08:14 PM
Majors home struggles continue.

I got some flack for suggesting a off season Mahle trade. I think it would help his career big time. Mahle is really good right now. But would be a possible Cy Young winner pitching his home games elsewhere. He would also bring a nice haul back.

cumberlandreds
09-21-2021, 08:15 PM
Mahle's out. Santillan in.

cumberlandreds
09-21-2021, 08:16 PM
I got some flack for suggesting a off season Mahle trade. I think it would help his career big time. Mahle is really good right now. But would be a possible Cy Young winner pitching his home games elsewhere. He would also bring a nice haul back.

I wouldn't be opposed with a good return.

OldFashionedRed
09-21-2021, 08:17 PM
I got some flack for suggesting a off season Mahle trade. I think it would help his career big time. Mahle is really good right now. But would be a possible Cy Young winner pitching his home games elsewhere. He would also bring a nice haul back.

You guys are saying it, but what in the world is causing Mahle to do this? He gets pounded at home. Before today's game, he has allowed 18 homeruns at GABP.

TheBigLebowski
09-21-2021, 08:19 PM
Just put them out of their misery. Freaking Pirates. Mitch Keller. Ben Gamel. We could pick 12 of us and keep it competitive with this Pittsburgh team.

Ironman92
09-21-2021, 08:19 PM
Good decision by Joey

Roy Tucker
09-21-2021, 08:19 PM
You guys are saying it, but what in the world is causing Mahle to do this? He gets pounded at home. Before today's game, he has allowed 18 homeruns at GABP.

He’s a fly ball pitcher. He’d excel in a bigger ballpark. That first HR was a regular fly ball out in many parks.

TheBigLebowski
09-21-2021, 08:19 PM
I got some flack for suggesting a off season Mahle trade. I think it would help his career big time. Mahle is really good right now. But would be a possible Cy Young winner pitching his home games elsewhere. He would also bring a nice haul back.

If there was equal value coming back I’d deal him in a heartbeat.

Ironman92
09-21-2021, 08:21 PM
Friedl double-clutched both hits to him. Not sure it would have made any difference, but it has to be catch-throw, not catch-motion-throw.

The grounder towards the gap a bit wasn’t an easy play and wasn’t going to get the speedy Hayes even though he got a poor jump.

I’m just appalled that such a large % of outfielders has such bad fundamentals on those plays.

NebraskaRed
09-21-2021, 08:21 PM
https://twitter.com/SpinninBackfist/status/1440460816973647881?s=20

New contender for worst celebrity first pitch.

KeefeCato
09-21-2021, 08:21 PM
If there was equal value coming back I’d deal him in a heartbeat.

There would have to be at least equal value. Or I would not trade him.

JFLegal
09-21-2021, 08:21 PM
it's gotta be mental now with mahle. to be this bad at home? i know GABP is a bandbox, but it doesn't affect any of our other pitchers this much or even close. i think the fact it is a bandbox and the fact he's struggled there has gotten into his head. what did our coaches used to always say? "sports is 90% mental." they were exaggerating, but it's at least 50/50.

cumberlandreds
09-21-2021, 08:21 PM
Nice job by Santillan.

Roy Tucker
09-21-2021, 08:22 PM
Big strikeout there. Game had the potential to get away from the Reds. Nice job by Santillan.

NebraskaRed
09-21-2021, 08:22 PM
Santillan gets it done.

Bob Sheed
09-21-2021, 08:22 PM
https://twitter.com/SpinninBackfist/status/1440460816973647881?s=20

New contender for worst celebrity first pitch.

that had to be on purpose.

KeefeCato
09-21-2021, 08:24 PM
With off days coming Mon and next Thur. Vlad should only have his turn come up this Sat. I would not start him. Go with a bull pen day. Hoffman/Santillan whatever. They can't let Vlad start another game. Provided they are not out by Sat.

Larry Schuler
09-21-2021, 08:24 PM
Mahle gave up the lead and now he is in the dugout eating funfetti cupcakes and bopping his head to Weird Al music videos on his phone. I’m friggin’ sick of this.

Roy Tucker
09-21-2021, 08:24 PM
it's gotta be mental now with mahle. to be this bad at home? i know GABP is a bandbox, but it doesn't affect any of our other pitchers this much or even close. i think the fact it is a bandbox and the fact he's struggled there has gotten into his head. what did our coaches used to always say? "sports is 90% mental." they were exaggerating, but it's at least 50/50.

Don’t know. Mahle is also a high pitch count guy. When he goes bad, it happens fast like tonight. He was around pitch #90 and all of a sudden, his pitches got flat and over the plate.

Kinsm
09-21-2021, 08:26 PM
Santillan needs to be given an opportunity to start next year. I'm still not sold on VGut as a longterm starter in this league.

Bob Sheed
09-21-2021, 08:26 PM
LeClure and Sadak with the negative chemistry thing going on.

Ironman92
09-21-2021, 08:27 PM
So rain set in and we give up the lead just in time. [emoji2359]

coryfly
09-21-2021, 08:28 PM
So rain set in and we give up the lead just in time. [emoji2359]

Feels like they have done that multiple times this year. Probably not but it sure seems that way.

OldFashionedRed
09-21-2021, 08:29 PM
With off days coming Mon and next Thur. Vlad should only have his turn come up this Sat. I would not start him. Go with a bull pen day. Hoffman/Santillan whatever. They can't let Vlad start another game. Provided they are not out by Sat.

I'm on board with that. Enough with the mediocrity. Let these guys stink it up somewhere else. When's ownership going to figure out that Reds fans are not falling for this?

NebraskaRed
09-21-2021, 08:29 PM
That inning went from the best of times to the worst of times very quickly.

Maldez
09-21-2021, 08:30 PM
LeClure and Sadak with the negative chemistry thing going on.

Big time...Sam snapped at Sadak "Can we cut this out? I don't watch a lot of football, JOHN" after Sadak belabored some Dennis Green reference he was going for.

OldFashionedRed
09-21-2021, 08:30 PM
LeClure and Sadak with the negative chemistry thing going on.

LeCure does a decent job calling what's really going on, Sadak wants to be Mr Captain Sinking With The Sheep Lets Be Positive. I mean, c'mon....."Tucker was close"?

Ky Fried Redleg
09-21-2021, 08:32 PM
Just put them out of their misery. Freaking Pirates. Mitch Keller. Ben Gamel. We could pick 12 of us and keep it competitive with this Pittsburgh team.

Speak for yourself. I sit on the couch and eat twinkies. I've not played third base since '79.

Ironman92
09-21-2021, 08:32 PM
WTF???

Bob Sheed
09-21-2021, 08:32 PM
Big time...Sam snapped at Sadak "Can we cut this out? I don't watch a lot of football, JOHN" after Sadak belabored some Dennis Green reference he was going for.

I wonder if Peyton and Eli do baseball games? :dunno:

I'd watch Bench and Larkin with Special Guests do Reds games in that format all season long though.

JFLegal
09-21-2021, 08:32 PM
Don’t know. Mahle is also a high pitch count guy. When he goes bad, it happens fast like tonight. He was around pitch #90 and all of a sudden, his pitches got flat and over the plate.

i agree. but with him being light years better on the road than at home, i have to think it's largely mental with him.

coryfly
09-21-2021, 08:32 PM
Hmm, not sure I would take him out. Seems like it would be a better idea to let him pitch the inning out, especially since with the rain you don't really want to do things that waste time.

KeefeCato
09-21-2021, 08:34 PM
Santillan needs to be given an opportunity to start next year. I'm still not sold on VGut as a longterm starter in this league.

Hoping some team shows interest in Vlad. Maybe he could bring back a serviceable reliever in trade.

BCubb2003
09-21-2021, 08:34 PM
Seems like Sonny Gray had Home Cooking Syndrome when he was in New York.

coryfly
09-21-2021, 08:35 PM
And he immediately gives up a hit. Bell's obsession with left and right stuff is stupid.

NebraskaRed
09-21-2021, 08:35 PM
LeCure haha

Sadak asked why Bell took out Santillan and put in Wilson.

LeCure laughed and said "....Barry?"

JFLegal
09-21-2021, 08:36 PM
yeah, weird taking santillan out there. i guess him dominating was too much for bell. needed to make a change.

cumberlandreds
09-21-2021, 08:36 PM
And he immediately gives up a hit. Bell's obsession with left and right stuff is stupid.

Bell over managing again.

Roy Tucker
09-21-2021, 08:36 PM
Suarez needs to change his pants. He’s got a giant chocolate smear on his butt.

OldFashionedRed
09-21-2021, 08:37 PM
Bell over managing again.


Because, draft picks.

Ironman92
09-21-2021, 08:39 PM
Hmm, not sure I would take him out. Seems like it would be a better idea to let him pitch the inning out, especially since with the rain you don't really want to do things that waste time.

And he’s used to the wet mound and made his last batter look ridiculous.

JFLegal
09-21-2021, 08:39 PM
wilson got the job done.

KeefeCato
09-21-2021, 08:39 PM
Wilson has been better than I thought he would be. Has been a ground ball pitcher for the most part as a Red at least.

NebraskaRed
09-21-2021, 08:39 PM
Wilson did great even if I still don't understand why he was put in.

cumberlandreds
09-21-2021, 08:40 PM
Wilson gets the job done. Need a couple of runs now.

Bob Sheed
09-21-2021, 08:40 PM
Stl 1
mil 0

bot 3

KeefeCato
09-21-2021, 08:41 PM
Wilson did great even if I still don't understand why he was put in.

Maybe so Santillan could be used either tomorrow but if not by Thursday? Plus the LHB thing as well.

Ironman92
09-21-2021, 08:42 PM
Alford is bad….Lord

Bob Sheed
09-21-2021, 08:43 PM
So Farmer's walk up song is Biebers Peaches in Georgia...

cumberlandreds
09-21-2021, 08:44 PM
Farmer the hit mavhine!

coryfly
09-21-2021, 08:44 PM
Maybe so Santillan could be used either tomorrow but if not by Thursday? Plus the LHB thing as well.

He only had 12 pitches though. Feel like if he pitched like 8 more to get through the inning he would could still be used then. It was probably because a lefty was up and he seems to really be into that.

Ky Fried Redleg
09-21-2021, 08:44 PM
If the Cardinals win yet again tonight, I'm just giving up on life.

Ironman92
09-21-2021, 08:44 PM
Farmer rakes

Mitri
09-21-2021, 08:45 PM
Farmer has really come a long way. Color me impressed. I was hard on the guy early this season, but he's a baller.

BCubb2003
09-21-2021, 08:46 PM
Kyle Farmer is your 2022 third-baseman.

Kinsm
09-21-2021, 08:46 PM
If the Reds weren't in a playoff hunt they probably would have ended Mahle's season already, he only threw 47 innings last year and has never pitched more than 152.

Roy Tucker
09-21-2021, 08:47 PM
Suarez tries to pull an outside slider.

KeefeCato
09-21-2021, 08:47 PM
Kyle Farmer is your 2022 third-baseman.

No chance.

Ironman92
09-21-2021, 08:47 PM
Eat shift and die

M2
09-21-2021, 08:48 PM
Let's go, T.J.

Ky Fried Redleg
09-21-2021, 08:48 PM
I've not pitched in a game since 1977, but I think I could still strike out the side if i could face Suarez, Moose, and Aquino back to back to back.

coryfly
09-21-2021, 08:49 PM
Tucker did a nice job there. Need to at least get one across here.

KeefeCato
09-21-2021, 08:49 PM
Here comes DeSheilds to hit. Just stick with Friedl.

cumberlandreds
09-21-2021, 08:49 PM
Keller out. All the while Peloton is still crushing it. :)

M2
09-21-2021, 08:50 PM
Here come DeSheilds to hit. Just stick with Friedl.

Would rather play the RH/LH matchup here.

NebraskaRed
09-21-2021, 08:50 PM
Keller out. All the while Peloton is still crushing it. :)

Plant dads!

Don't know what a plant dad is, don't want to know.

Kinsm
09-21-2021, 08:51 PM
Here come DeSheilds to hit. Just stick with Friedl.

Agreed, but Bell is so anal with the splits.

cumberlandreds
09-21-2021, 08:51 PM
Plant dads!

Don't know what a plant dad is, don't want to know.

No idea either.

NebraskaRed
09-21-2021, 08:51 PM
Cabrera?

Bob Sheed
09-21-2021, 08:51 PM
"Hey coach, you think my boy could get an AB at some point tonight?"

Sure thing, I'll put him in right after the other guy who never hits.

Kinsm
09-21-2021, 08:53 PM
Cabrera has a negative 79 OPS+ with the Reds.

Playadlc
09-21-2021, 08:53 PM
Damn it.

TheBigLebowski
09-21-2021, 08:53 PM
Why take Friedl out for a guy who can’t hit off a tee?

Why is this waste of space still here? He’s completely useless. Worse than useless. He’s damaging to the cause.

Bob Sheed
09-21-2021, 08:53 PM
0-20

cumberlandreds
09-21-2021, 08:53 PM
Goodness! That was bad.

Ironman92
09-21-2021, 08:53 PM
Cabrera has a negative 79 OPS+ with the Reds.

Doesn’t seem that good

OldFashionedRed
09-21-2021, 08:53 PM
Cabrera?

Bell: I just put them in, because they can't hit isn't my fault.

KeefeCato
09-21-2021, 08:54 PM
Cabrera has a negative 79 OPS+ with the Reds.

And dropping.

Mitri
09-21-2021, 08:54 PM
Stupid move, Bell. Shoulda kept Friedl in.

I'm officially off the Bell train.

Ky Fried Redleg
09-21-2021, 08:54 PM
Isdrubal makes Moose look like Karen Carpenter.

NebraskaRed
09-21-2021, 08:54 PM
I know Friedl has extremely limited time in the big leagues, but there's no way Cabrera had a better shot there than Friedl did.

Playadlc
09-21-2021, 08:54 PM
No clue why you don’t stick with Friedl there.

This is getting insane.

KeefeCato
09-21-2021, 08:55 PM
So how did Cabrera go from what looked like a useful bench piece to as bad as a pitcher hitting in the same season?

Ky Fried Redleg
09-21-2021, 08:55 PM
Stupid move, Bell. Shoulda kept Friedl in.

I'm officially off the Bell train.

Glad to have you join us. :)

Roy Tucker
09-21-2021, 08:55 PM
Not a good AB by Cabrera. Watches the only good pitch and swings at 2 pitches about a foot off the plate.

Redsfan6272
09-21-2021, 08:56 PM
i would have stuck with Friedl before i ever pinch hit a guy 0-19!!!

Bell is a idiot

OldFashionedRed
09-21-2021, 08:56 PM
Yeah, some of these guys aren't good but some of us have been talking all season about body language and approach, and I'm eager to see a change in manager before anything else. The fundamentals, attitude, all that start at the top, and the talent is where the difference is. If you've got a poor foundation, then you're swinging backwards.

TheBigLebowski
09-21-2021, 08:56 PM
Assdribble getting that a/b is criminal negligence by Bell. And cue the Bell Hive.

RedForLife
09-21-2021, 08:56 PM
At least Friedl probably would've made contact. Dumb move by TinkerBell.

Kinsm
09-21-2021, 08:56 PM
Delino had better be non-tendered or DFA'd/outrighted before the deadline. I don't care that his father is with this club, he is not deserving of a 40 man roster spot all winter.

coryfly
09-21-2021, 08:56 PM
Bell has always been awful. At every level he has ever been. Some people are just now realizing it.

Ironman92
09-21-2021, 08:57 PM
This has the feel of a game where we need a big hit and the pitcher has to hit for himself or Miley swings it

Ky Fried Redleg
09-21-2021, 08:57 PM
So how did Cabrera go from what looked like a useful bench piece to as bad as a pitcher hitting in the same season?

And just think, you and i were very pleased with the acquisition.

NebraskaRed
09-21-2021, 08:57 PM
That was a truly, truly bizarre move by Bell.

Redsfan6272
09-21-2021, 08:57 PM
Cabrera needs released and bring up Lopez!!! NOW

Bob Sheed
09-21-2021, 08:58 PM
"Tinker Bell" :lol: hadn't heard that one before.

Roy Tucker
09-21-2021, 08:59 PM
Stupid move, Bell. Shoulda kept Friedl in.

I'm officially off the Bell train.

When the game starts to get away from the Reds, Bell starts to overmanage and start making squirrely moves.

RedForLife
09-21-2021, 08:59 PM
That was a truly, truly bizarre move by Bell.

'Bizarre' seems to come to mind whenever Bell's name is mentioned.

KeefeCato
09-21-2021, 09:00 PM
And just think, you and i were very pleased with the acquisition.

I mean his numbers with Arizona was good for a bench bat on a contending team. I understood why Arizona released him. They are buried in the standings and wanted to play young players. It is like he forgot how to hit overnight.

OldFashionedRed
09-21-2021, 09:01 PM
I mean his numbers with Arizona was good for a bench bat on a contending team. I understood why Arizona released him. They are buried in the standings and wanted to play young players. It is like he forgot how to hit overnight.

Bell probably promised X number of double-switches.

Kinsm
09-21-2021, 09:01 PM
Sims could be so good if it all clicks for him.

Ironman92
09-21-2021, 09:02 PM
Sims ready for the radar gun at the fair

Wheelhouse
09-21-2021, 09:02 PM
Friedl hits lefties better than righties. Why hit for him with the carcass of Cabrera? Bell horrid.

Bob Sheed
09-21-2021, 09:05 PM
so, we have 3 innings to go and 6,7,8,9 now is:

Suarez
Barnhart
Cabrera
Deshields

?

Wonderful Monds
09-21-2021, 09:05 PM
Friedl hits lefties better than righties. Why hit for him with the carcass of Cabrera? Bell horrid.

Bell straight up ignores reverse platoon splits, he’ll always put in the opposite handed hitter no matter how worse of a player they are than the dude they’re replacing.

Ironman92
09-21-2021, 09:05 PM
Friedl hits lefties better than righties. Why hit for him with the carcass of Cabrera? Bell horrid.

Lefty/righty is lazy decision making

Roy Tucker
09-21-2021, 09:06 PM
Grounds crew fixing the mound and they are playing the Beatles “Fixing A Hole” on the PA.

Bob Sheed
09-21-2021, 09:06 PM
Fixing a Hole...

BCubb2003
09-21-2021, 09:06 PM
Lefty/righty is lazy decision making

And the switch-hitter can’t hit anyone.

Ky Fried Redleg
09-21-2021, 09:07 PM
so, we have 3 innings to go and 6,7,8,9 now is:

Suarez
Barnhart
Cabrera
Deshields

?



In a game we HAVE to win !!!

KeefeCato
09-21-2021, 09:08 PM
In a game we HAVE to win !!!

Cabrera is out that is the P spot.

Roy Tucker
09-21-2021, 09:09 PM
Fixing a Hole...

Man, I’m getting old. I remember the buzz when that Seargent Peppers album came out in the summer of 1967. My brother bought the album and we about wore it out.

Kc61
09-21-2021, 09:10 PM
Friedl hits lefties better than righties. Why hit for him with the carcass of Cabrera? Bell horrid.

Because Friedl is no longer playing in the minors and left/left is the toughest MLB matchup for hitters. So Bell played the percentages.

However, he doesn’t have very good choices among RHH. Frankly, I would have used Jose Barrero, also a young player but with a righty/lefty advantage, live bat.

TheBigLebowski
09-21-2021, 09:11 PM
DeShields worked a walk. This is the start of a big inning.

Bob Sheed
09-21-2021, 09:11 PM
Man, I’m getting old. I remember the buzz when that Seargent Peppers album came out in the summer of 1967. My brother bought the album and we about wore it out.

Nice. I'm a bit young for it to be contemporary, but I wore out 2 or 3 CDs of it before Spotify took hold.

BCubb2003
09-21-2021, 09:11 PM
Haunt the Pirates.

TheBigLebowski
09-21-2021, 09:13 PM
Because Friedl is no longer playing in the minors and left/left is the toughest MLB matchup for hitters. So Bell played the percentages.

However, he doesn’t have very good choices among RHH. Frankly, I would have used Jose Barrero, also a young player but with a righty/lefty advantage. Also has a live bat.

You’re generalizing and it doesn’t apply here. Taking out a guy with stats that show he’s decent against lefties, even in the minors, is 100% of the time more preferable that a guy who is 0-for -Cincinnati. You’re macro and these decisions are better served on the micro level.

Bob Sheed
09-21-2021, 09:13 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/ext_tw_video_thumb/1104765236731625472/pu/img/UgTsa3J04NxQe8eo.jpg

Roy Tucker
09-21-2021, 09:13 PM
A Red stole a base. Will miracles never cease.

OldFashionedRed
09-21-2021, 09:15 PM
We HAVE to score here. Put the clamp on.

Roy Tucker
09-21-2021, 09:16 PM
The mound is getting into Mears’ head a little bit.

Larry Schuler
09-21-2021, 09:16 PM
That sucks that you can’t pitch hit Asdrubal Cabrera every inning. He’d be perfect right here.

OldFashionedRed
09-21-2021, 09:16 PM
Come on, Max! Level swing!

M2
09-21-2021, 09:17 PM
Lefty/righty is lazy decision making

Banda allows an OPS 250 points higher vs. RH hitters (216 points over his career) and Friedl hasn't seen a LHP in the majors yet. Not in love with the Drooble call, but that was not the time or the pitcher to let Friedl test those wings.

Kc61
09-21-2021, 09:17 PM
You’re generalizing and it doesn’t apply here. Taking out a guy with stats that show he’s decent against lefties, even in the minors, is 100% of the time more preferable that a guy who is 0-for -Cincinnati. You’re macro and these decisions are better served on the micro level.

Once again, AAA is not the major leagues. The pitching is different. That’s why the percentages are so low, even for veteran players.

Cabrera wasn’t a good choice. But neither is lefty/lefty against major league pitching.

M2
09-21-2021, 09:17 PM
A Red stole a base. Will miracles never cease.

I am completely marking out over that.

Bob Sheed
09-21-2021, 09:17 PM
https://media.giphy.com/media/QuDvAKFeUn5Uk/giphy.gif

Ironman92
09-21-2021, 09:18 PM
Really good base running

KeefeCato
09-21-2021, 09:18 PM
Castellanos WILL DELIVER BIG TIME HERE.

OldFashionedRed
09-21-2021, 09:18 PM
Tucker's evil sister takes a fall out there.

Larry Schuler
09-21-2021, 09:19 PM
There’s a can of corn, then there’s a sock of Shrock.

That bloop was a sock of Schrock.

Ironman92
09-21-2021, 09:20 PM
Awful by Nick. My God

KeefeCato
09-21-2021, 09:20 PM
Castellanos WILL DELIVER BIG TIME HERE.

Or not. Terrible. No DP Joey.

OldFashionedRed
09-21-2021, 09:21 PM
Awful by Nick. My God

And there are people wanting him re-signed. I'm not going to dismiss what he's done this season, but there's those career numbers to deal with.

Ironman92
09-21-2021, 09:21 PM
Good luck on 78 mph Joe

TheBigLebowski
09-21-2021, 09:21 PM
Thanks Nicky.

They’re going to blow another based loaded, no out opportunity.

I still want Nick back but I’m no longer to disembowel myself if he goes elsewhere, provided the Reds spend his money on something worthwhile.

Ironman92
09-21-2021, 09:22 PM
Good pitching beats good hitting

Mears hit the spot

Bob Sheed
09-21-2021, 09:23 PM
The Reds have left 18 men on base tonight.