10-3-21 Reds @ Pirates 3:05pm

[Ron Madden]

Reds
1. Jonathan India (R) 2B
2. Max Schrock (L) LF
3. Nick Castellanos (R) RF
4. Joey Votto (L) 1B
5. Eugenio Suarez (R) 3B
6. Tyler Stephenson (R) C
7. Jose Barrero (R) SS
8. TJ Friedl (L) CF
9. Reiver Sanmartin (L) P

Pirates
1. Kevin Newman (R) 2B
2. Yoshi Tsutsugo (L) RF
3. Michael Chavis (R) 3B
4. Colin Moran (L) 1B
5. Anthony Alford (R) LF
6. Ben Gamel (L) CF
7. Oneil Cruz (L) SS
8. Michael Perez (L) C
9. Mitch Keller (R) P

[757690]

A gigantic thank you to Ron for being committed to the Reds and Redszone this entire season. Let’s go out on a winner!

:beerme:

[cumberlandreds]

A gigantic thank you to Ron for being committed to the Reds and Redszone this entire season. Let’s go out on a winner!

:beerme:

Totally agree! Ron is a great fan this has been very appreciated all season.

[KeefeCato]

Hopefully this one gets played. Like to see Votto drive in 4 and Catellanos 1.

[Ky Fried Redleg]

Looking forward to seeing young Mr Sanmartin pitch one more time.

[SomeCallMeTim]

Looking forward to seeing young Mr Sanmartin pitch one more time.

Take me to the Revier…[emoji41]

[Ky Fried Redleg]

Would Keefe or the guy who some call Tim kinda give me a real short rundown of what happened last night? I couldn't tune in for much of the game. I know we had a pretty sizeable lead. Who gave it up last night? Thanks in advance.

[SomeCallMeTim]

Would Keefe or the guy who some call Tim kinda give me a real short rundown of what happened last night? I couldn't tune in for much of the game. I know we had a pretty sizeable lead. Who gave it up last night? Thanks in advance.

I was following via MLB app and watching UK and Fla (more exciting)

But looks like Mr. Mahle hit a wall, and one of a masonry sort…

[Ky Fried Redleg]

All I want for my birthday today is a Reds' win and for my little kitten to stay the hell off my shower curtain. I don't think I can count on the kitten to come through for me so hopefully the Reds can deliver.

[Ky Fried Redleg]

I was following via MLB app and watching UK and Fla (more exciting)

But looks like Mr. Mahle hit a wall, and one of a masonry sort…

Thanks. That UK D was something else. #4 in blue is going to make some good $$$ playing on Sundays.

[Tom Servo]

All I want for my birthday today is a Reds' win and for my little kitten to stay the hell off my shower curtain. I don't think I can count on the kitten to come through for me so hopefully the Reds can deliver.
lets see that kitten!

[RedTeamGo!]

I’m good with losing today, I’m assuming it would improve draft position by 1 or 2 spots.

[Kinsm]

The Phillies are the only club they can drop behind in the draft.

That's assuming nothing wild is done with the draft in the CBA.

[RedTeamGo!]

The Phillies are the only club they can drop behind in the draft.

That's assuming nothing wild is done with the draft in the CBA.

Cool, I’m good with losing today to move up a spot. Meaningless game.

[757690]

At the 9 or 10 slot, the Reds are likely drafting the same player. Give me one more win today.

[64red]

Welsh seems to have his filter turned off for this series.

[RedTeamGo!]

At the 9 or 10 slot, the Reds are likely drafting the same player. Give me one more win today.

Picked a random draft - 2015

Pick 9: Ian Happ
Pick 10: Cornelius Randolph

It’s not just the first round, it’s every round, it gives you another option each round. Today’s game means absolutely nothing. Take the L Mr. Sanmartin!

[BCubb2003]

If Joey Votto hits a home run into the Monongahela River, how long would it take the ball to reach Cincinnati?

[757690]

Picked a random draft - 2015

Pick 9: Ian Happ
Pick 10: Cornelius Randolph

It’s not just the first round, it’s every round, it gives you another option each round. Today’s game means absolutely nothing. Take the L Mr. Sanmartin!

At that point in the draft, teams are picking the player they like. They may make mistakes, but if they had a pick one pick earlier, they likely are taking the same player.

Every game means something. At least it should.

[Kinsm]

It's pick 17 or 18 in 2022 fwiw.

[64red]

Moran seems to have checked out already. He looked like he mailed it in last night too.

[757690]

It's pick 17 or 18 in 2022 fwiw.

My bad, I was only counting NL teams.

[RedTeamGo!]

It's pick 17 or 18 in 2022 fwiw.

My point remains

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At that point in the draft, teams are picking the player they like. They may make mistakes, but if they had a pick one pick earlier, they likely are taking the same player.

Every game means something. At least it should.

This game means literally nothing other than draft position.

[757690]

San Martin struggled in the first, partly due to a floating strike zone from the ump, but settled down a bit in the second. Nice recovery from the rookie.

[cumberlandreds]

100!

[cumberlandreds]

1-1 in third.

[cumberlandreds]

Great catch byCasto!

[KoryMac5]

NM

[cumberlandreds]

San Martin has been pretty good since that 1st inning jam.

[cumberlandreds]

Still 1-1 middle of the 4th.

[Bruce Berenyi]

where is carson fullmer a great pick up this year

[cumberlandreds]

Aquino in for Casto. Thanks Castro for a great seadom!

[cumberlandreds]

Cruz should be on the Olympic bat throwing team.

[cumberlandreds]

23rd HBp for India.

[NebraskaRed]

Sadak has finally snapped

[cumberlandreds]

Rookie umpire at2nd is awful. Even the other umps were laughing at him.

[HokieRed]

Roster question for 2022 re. Max Schrock. How many left handed outfielders do we carry in 2022 (and I know Schrock is only secondarily OF, but that seems where he is likeliest to play on this club). Winker, Naquin, Friedl, Shogo. Schrock--that's five.

[NebraskaRed]

Derek Shelton going out with a bang in this meaningless game.

[Big Klu]

Roster question for 2022 re. Max Schrock. How many left handed outfielders do we carry in 2022 (and I know Schrock is only secondarily OF, but that seems where he is likeliest to play on this club). Winker, Naquin, Friedl, Shogo. Schrock--that's five.

I don't see Shogo on the roster next year.

[cumberlandreds]

Derek Shelton going out with a bang in this meaningless game.No idea sewhat he was arguing? Reds take lead and still hitting.

[Big Klu]

Derek Shelton going out with a bang in this meaningless game.

Shelton really doesn't want to be there today, because even he knows that he has no argument.

[Kinsm]

Votto trying his best to get 100 rbi's.

[cumberlandreds]

Votto!!!

[NebraskaRed]

Votto!

[Kinsm]

Roster question for 2022 re. Max Schrock. How many left handed outfielders do we carry in 2022 (and I know Schrock is only secondarily OF, but that seems where he is likeliest to play on this club). Winker, Naquin, Friedl, Shogo. Schrock--that's five.

Max will still have an option year...probably starts in AAA.

[Big Klu]

#notelite


Updated Reds HR list (players in italics are active):

Reds 100-Home Run Club
1. Johnny Bench - 389
2. Joey Votto - 331
3. Frank Robinson - 324
4. Tony Pérez - 287
5. Adam Dunn - 270
6. Ted Kluszewski - 251
7. George Foster - 244
8. Jay Bruce - 233
9. Ken Griffey, Jr. - 210
10. Eric Davis - 203
11. Barry Larkin - 198
12. Brandon Phillips - 191
13. Eugenio Suárez - 189
14. Vada Pinson - 186
15. Wally Post - 172
16. Gus Bell - 160
17. Joe Morgan - 152
17. Pete Rose - 152
19. Lee May - 147
20. Dan Driessen - 133
21. Reggie Sanders - 125
22. Ernie Lombardi - 120
23. Sean Casey - 118
24. Frank McCormick - 110
25. Todd Frazier - 108
26. Dave Parker - 107
27. Chris Sabo - 104
28. Dave Concepción - 101

[Bruce Berenyi]

it was a great year for future posts about useless players like cabrera

[NebraskaRed]

Friedl with a gentleman's grand slam (pop up in foul territory)

[Big Klu]

Reiver Sanmartin is a switch-hitter?

[cumberlandreds]

Reiver Sanmartin is a switch-hitter?

Apparently. Batted both ways in the inning

[NebraskaRed]

I know it doesn't matter, but with the bases loaded and your pitcher up in the last game of the year, you don't pull him and give the team a chance to score more runs?

[cumberlandreds]

5-1 Reds in the 5th.

[Big Klu]

I know it doesn't matter, but with the bases loaded and your pitcher up in the last game of the year, you don't pull him and give the team a chance to score more runs?

Maybe you want to see if your young pitcher can throw a few more innings.

[NebraskaRed]

Maybe you want to see if your young pitcher can throw a few more innings.

That's probably more important than the results of this game, but still.

[NebraskaRed]

Nats beating up on the Red Sox.

Blue Jays are beating up on the Orioles.

There's gonna be a game tomorrow.

[Tom Servo]

oh NOW Aquino homers off a marginal lefty

[757690]

Aquino leaving 2021 with a bang

[757690]

Nats beating up on the Red Sox.

Blue Jays are beating up on the Orioles.

There's gonna be a game tomorrow.

Yankees and Rays are tied in the 7th. If the Rays win the game, there will be a three way tie. I have no idea how that works out.

[Big Klu]

Aquino has passed César Cedeño for 12th place among players of Hispanic heritage on the Reds all-time home run list.

1. Tony Pérez [🇨🇺] - 287
2. Eugenio Suárez [🇻🇪] - 189
3. Dave Concepción [🇻🇪] - 101
4. Leo Cárdenas [🇨🇺] - 72
5. Edwin Encarnación [🇩🇴] - 71
6. Wily Mo Peña [🇩🇴] - 54
7. Nick Castellanos [🇺🇸/🇨🇺] - 48
8. César Gerónimo [🇩🇴] - 44
9. Felipe López [🇵🇷] - 41
10. Bo Díaz [🇻🇪] - 39

11. Javier Valentín [🇵🇷] - 34
12. Aristides Aquino [🇩🇴] - 31
13. César Cedeño [🇩🇴] - 30
14. Mariano Duncan [🇩🇴] - 28
14. José Peraza [🇻🇪] - 28
16. José Guillén [🇩🇴] - 27
17. Juan Castro [🇲🇽] - 25
18. Ramón Hernández [🇻🇪] - 24
19. Eduardo Pérez [🇺🇸/🇵🇷] - 23
20. Yasiel Puig [🇨🇺] - 22

21. Alex Ochoa [🇺🇸/🇨🇺] - 20
22. Luis Quiñones [🇵🇷] - 19
22. Benito Santiago [🇵🇷] - 19
22. D'Angelo Jiménez [🇩🇴] - 19
22. Alex González [🇻🇪] - 19
26. Juan Encarnación [🇩🇴] - 16
27. Jerry Hairston, Jr. [🇺🇸/🇲🇽] - 14
28. Miguel Cairo [🇻🇪] - 13
29. Roberto Kelly [🇵🇦] - 12
29. Freddy Galvis [🇻🇪] - 12

31. José Iglesias [🇨🇺] - 11
32. Rubén Rivera [🇵🇦] - 10
33. Tony Fernández [🇩🇴] - 8
34. Jacob Cruz [🇺🇸/🇲🇽] - 7
35. Carmelo Martínez [🇵🇷] - 6
35. Bronson Arroyo [🇺🇸/🇨🇺] - 6
35. Kristopher Negrón [🇺🇸/🇵🇷] - 6

38. Dolf Luque [🇨🇺] - 5
38. Héctor Cruz [🇵🇷] - 5
38. Rubén Mateo [🇩🇴] - 5
38. Édgar Rentería [🇨🇴] - 5
38. Juan Francisco [🇩🇴] - 5
38. Yonder Alonso [🇨🇺] - 5
38. Brayan Peña [🇨🇺] - 5
38. Iván DeJesús, Jr. [🇵🇷] - 5
38. Dilson Herrera [🇨🇴] - 5

47. Juan Samuel [🇩🇴] - 4
47. Adam Rosales [🇺🇸/🇲🇽] - 4
47. Orlando Cabrera [🇨🇴] - 4
47. Ramón Cabrera [🇻🇪] - 4
51. Rafael Almeida [🇨🇺] - 3
51. Tony González [🇨🇺] - 3
51. Dave Martinez [🇺🇸/🇵🇷] - 3
51. Roberto Petagine [🇻🇪] - 3
51. Jolbert Cabrera [🇨🇴] - 3

56. Elio Chacón [🇻🇪] - 2
56. Chico Ruiz [🇨🇺] - 2
56. Pat Corrales [🇺🇸/🇲🇽] - 2
56. Julián Javier [🇩🇴] - 2
56. Alex Treviño [🇲🇽] - 2
56. José Rijo [🇩🇴] - 2
56. Rubén Sierra [🇵🇷] - 2
56. Melvin Nieves [🇵🇷] - 2
56. Guillermo García [🇩🇴] - 2
56. Ray Olmedo [🇻🇪] - 2
56. Dioner Navarro [🇻🇪] - 2
56. Ramón Santiago [🇩🇴] - 2
56. Alex Blandino [🇺🇸/🇳🇮] - 2

69. Armando Marsans [🇨🇺] - 1
69. Manuel Cueto [🇨🇺] - 1
69. Arturo DeFreites [🇩🇴] - 1
69. Sam Mejías [🇩🇴] - 1
69. Rafael Landestoy [🇩🇴] - 1
69. Mario Soto [🇩🇴] - 1
69. Leo García [🇩🇴] - 1
69. Freddie Benavides [🇺🇸/🇲🇽] - 1
69. Wilton Guerrero [🇩🇴] - 1
69. Jorge Cantú [🇺🇸/🇲🇽] - 1
69. Willy Taveras [🇩🇴] - 1
69. Chris Dominguez [🇺🇸/🇨🇺] - 1
69. Arismendy Alcántara [🇩🇴] - 1
69. Tony Cruz [🇺🇸/🇨🇺] - 1
69. Gabriel Guerrero [🇩🇴] - 1

[Big Klu]

Yankees and Rays are tied in the 7th. If the Rays win the game, there will be a three way tie. I have no idea how that works out.

In the case of a three-way tie, the Yankees and Red Sox play at Boston tomorrow. The winner gets the #1 WC. The loser plays the Blue Jays at Toronto on Tuesday for the #2 WC.

[Bruce Berenyi]

this was the year edgar garcia and michael feliz really emerged as great future names to be posted as they both pitched around 4-5 innings and gave up double digit hits

[757690]

In the case of a three-way tie, the Yankees and Red Sox play at Boston tomorrow. The winner gets the #1 WC. The loser plays the Blue Jays at Toronto on Tuesday for the #2 WC.

Thanks. But the AL Wild Card game is set for that Tuesday. Does that game get pushed to Wednesday?

[Kinsm]

this was the year edgar garcia and michael feliz really emerged as great future names to be posted as they both pitched around 4-5 innings and gave up double digit hits

your posts are enlightening

[NebraskaRed]

If Suarez gets a hit in his next AB, he will get to .200

That'll shut up all you haters.

[Big Klu]

this was the year edgar garcia and michael feliz really emerged as great future names to be posted as they both pitched around 4-5 innings and gave up double digit hits

You have to separate the wheat from the chaff. You get Edgar Garcia, Michael Feliz, and Ashton Goudeau in one pile, and Vladimir Gutierrez, Tony Santillan, and Reiver Sanmartin in the other.

[Big Klu]

Thanks. But the AL Wild Card game is set for that Tuesday. Does that game get pushed to Wednesday?

It would have to be pushed back a day.

[Big Klu]

If Suarez gets a hit in his next AB, he will get to .200

That'll shut up all you haters.

He gets one more AB, weather permitting.

[Ky Fried Redleg]

"The rain comes down and Amir Garrett comes in." So very apropros.

[NeilHamburger]

Votto still has an outside shot at being the Reds all time HR leader. Can he hit 60 in the next 2 years?

[757690]

Votto still has an outside shot at being the Reds all time HR leader. Can he hit 60 in the next 2 years?

My guess is he plays more than 2 more seasons.

[Kinsm]

Votto still has an outside shot at being the Reds all time HR leader. Can he hit 60 in the next 2 years?

If he hits even remotely like this over the next 2 years he'll be here for at least a third.

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7M$ buyout is quite hefty, assuming he can still start in 3 years he's probably going to be here.

[CaiGuy]

Votto might be swinging for the dinger to get to 100 RBI's.

Would also tie his career high in homers too.

[757690]

Warren looking good. He could be an option for a high leverage reliever for next season.

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One inning more. Looks like the Reds will go out on a winning note, but still, always bittersweet.

[Big Klu]

If he hits even remotely like this over the next 2 years he'll be here for at least a third.

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7M$ buyout is quite hefty, assuming he can still start in 3 years he's probably going to be here.

The option year is for $20M, with a $7M buyout. So the real question is whether he is worth a one-year, $13M contract. I say that he likely will be.

[CaiGuy]

Warren looking good. He could be an option for a high leverage reliever for next season.

I'd error on the side of middle relief with his limited track record. But yeah, that'd be cool.

[SomeCallMeTim]

If Suarez gets a hit in his next AB, he will get to .200

That'll shut up all you haters.

Whoever thought that “reaching” the Mendoza line would be considered an accomplishment?

My how times have changed.

[CaiGuy]

Most importantly though, my prediction of 83 wins is coming together.

[Kinsm]

On July 19th, Votto was batting .256-.351-.453, has missed nearly a month of play and only had 11 homeruns on the year.

Since then he's hit ..278-.404-.679 (not including today).

[CaiGuy]

Whoever thought that “reaching” the Mendoza line would be considered an accomplishment?

My how times have changed.

It hasn't changed that much, it's still not good. Most of us are just having fun with it.

[Kinsm]

We need extra innings for Votto to hit another homerun.

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Go to this page, hit expand, then AltF Votto....

https://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/CIN/leaders_bat_50.shtml

[CaiGuy]

Ugh, 99 RBI's...I was afraid this would happen.

[NebraskaRed]

It hasn't changed that much, it's still not good. Most of us are just having fun with it.

Yeah, I was being sarcastic.

Also, he didn't get there anyway.

RIP Geno

[Big Klu]

A well-struck ball by Geno.

[Tom Servo]

well hit or no hit to reach .200 Suarez's swing in September is at least some cause for hope, looked like a totally different hitter from the first 5 months

[CaiGuy]

Though he had it, but it finds leather.

[Tom Servo]

Red Sox just tied it up in Washington, all this drama with Seattle and Toronto but they and the Yanks might just win their WC spots outright lol.

[757690]

On the plus side, if the AL wild card game is between the Red Sox and Yankees that means one of them will be eliminated after Tuesday.

[Kinsm]

Welcome to the bigs Cruz.

[Tom Servo]

Givens costing himself some $$ here

[Ky Fried Redleg]

I want to thank each and every one of you for making he latter part of this season so enjoyable. I found RZ after a game in which the Reds' bullpen blew a late lead(Hembree replaced by DooLittle, I think) and I went looking for a forum to vent my frustrations. What I found was a board of some very passionate and knowledable Reds' fans who care about this team the way I have for the past fifty years. For all of those who have agreed with me and also for those who have disagreed, I want to thank you all for keeping me informed as well as entertained. I have learned a lot from you in the past couple of months. I know the season didn't turn out the way we all had hoped but it was a fun journey and there's always another journey to take again next season. I hope to enjoy your company beginning in April of next year. Thanks again.

[SomeCallMeTim]

We need extra innings for Votto.



Be careful what you wish for…

[Ron Madden]

REDS WIN!!!

[Tom Servo]

And that's a wrap on 2021, not with a bang but at least with a W. :beerme:

83 wins is the most for any non-playoff NL team, so we got that going for us anyway.

[CaiGuy]

Well, it's been real y'all.

[SomeCallMeTim]

How many days until Goodyear?

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[NebraskaRed]

https://youtu.be/-O_cOnGrpY8

[klw]

https://thumbs.gfycat.com/YearlyIncomparableGrayling.webp

Leave on a high note!

[Big Klu]

nm

[Ron Madden]

Most importantly though, my prediction of 83 wins is coming together.

I missed by 4.
I predicted 87 wins.

[DocRed]

Suarez hit that last out hard and was couple of feet away from breaking .200 for the year. Castellanos gets to 100 RBIs and Joey misses it by 1. Givens probably killed any chance that the Reds will resign him next year.

[gagliano]

Whoever thought that “reaching” the Mendoza line would be considered an accomplishment?

My how times have changed.

Appropriately, he didn"t. He can grin through his shame.

[wally post]

I'm simply wishing to thank all of you who participated in the game threads this year. Quite a ride!

[RedsFanInMS]

I missed by 4.
I predicted 87 wins.
I said 84-78. Almost there.

[Bruce Berenyi]

my prediction was wrong I thought Jose de Leon would win 20 and I thought Mike Freeman would hit 35 homers

[Mitri]

my prediction was wrong I thought Jose de Leon would win 20 and I thought Mike Freeman would hit 35 homers

You predicted 66 wins, Reds won 17 more than you expected and yet still you are the most miserable poster on here, which is saying a lot.

[Bruce Berenyi]

thanks another season of no playoff s,, be proud and at least we got to see osich pitch cant believe you live in new york,, because anyone in Manhattan is smart enough to know that an 83 win season is banal, mediocrity,,

[WVRedsFan]

I missed by 4.
I predicted 87 wins.

Thought I predicted 85. Regardless, we both missed.

[Bruce Berenyi]

I thought Scott Heineman would hit .101

[Ky Fried Redleg]

my prediction was wrong I thought Jose de Leon would win 20 and I thought Mike Freeman would hit 35 homers

Bruce, don't feel bad. That's no worse than when I predicted Ted Uhlaender would rake at .320 plus and instead he hit a buck fifty nine

[Bruce Berenyi]

I feel crestfallen I really thought that Shogo would hit about 14 homers, but instead he is a worse hitter than Masanori Murakami

[Ron Madden]

Joel Luckhaupt of the Pawnee Lerpiss family
@jluckhaupt

Missed this one at game's start, but Reds started 6 rookies today. That's the first time they've had that many since 9/28/2003 (Tim Hummel, Ray Olmedo, Dernell Stenson, Ryan Freel, Scott Randall, Wily Mo Pena)

[Ron Madden]

Joel Luckhaupt of the Pawnee Lerpiss family
@jluckhaupt

Reds finished with the 6th best record in the NL. #FWIW

[Ron Madden]

Final 2021 MLB Regular Season Standings

https://www.mlb.com/standings

[gagliano]

Bruce, don't feel bad. That's no worse than when I predicted Ted Uhlaender would rake at .320 plus and instead he hit a buck fifty nine

Ted could rake.

[Ron Madden]

2022 MLB Draft Order

1. Orioles (52-110)
2. D-backs (52-110)
3. Rangers (60-102)
4. Pirates (61-101)
5. Nationals (65-97)
6. Marlins (67-95)
7. Cubs (71-91)
8. Twins (73-89)
9. Royals (74-88)
10. Rockies (74-87)
11. Mets (compensation)*
12. Tigers (77-85)
13. Angels (77-85)
14. Mets (77-85)
15. Padres (79-83)
16. Indians (80-82)
17. Phillies (82-80)
18. Reds (83-79)
19. A’s (86-76)
20. Braves (88-73)
21. Mariners (90-72)
22. Cardinals (90-72)
23. Blue Jays (91-71)
24. Red Sox (92-70)
25. Yankees (92-70)
26. White Sox (93-69)
27. Brewers (95-67)
28. Astros (95-67)
29. Rays (100-62)
30. Dodgers (106-56)
31. Giants (107-55)

*--compensation for not signing 2021 Draft pick Kumar Rocker

[JT Redlegs]

Say what you will about the final month collapse... this was by recent standards a much more fun and exciting team to watch than usual.

[JT Redlegs]

16. Indians (80-82)

Guardians*

[SomeCallMeTim]

Say what you will about the final month collapse... this was by recent standards a much more fun and exciting team to watch than usual.

I think I shall call this 2021 team the Oreo team.

All of the good stuff was in the middle.

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