Cincinnati Bengals - Part Four

[Sea Ray]

As a Bengal fan I want no more layups like the Jets or Bears. Let's take on the tough teams and go get 'em

[Tony Cloninger]

It's all about the matchups.

Chargers run defense is suspect. It's tough to steal games on the road.

I say 23-17 Bengals, if it's good QB weather. If bad weather, I expect Herbert to be the difference as the Bengals D lets him either run all over them or 15 yard personal foul penalties, or both. Sloppy conditions + Mobile QB + NFL rules on "tackling" QBs = 24-13 Chargers.

Herbert is a running QB? How is he going to run all over them? You already assume that they will have personal foul penalties? If the Bengals can run on the Steelers they sure as heck can run on the Chargers and Herbert not a better QB then Burrow. Don’t care what the weather is like.

I know you’re jaded about this team actually being good but you’re looking under the most weird ways to convince yourself they will find a way to lose. At least you’re not a Bengal fan who’s really a Steelers lover and admirer while being convinced they can just trade for Rodgers without any problem.

[Sea Ray]

Bengals game vs the 49ers has been flexed to 4:25pm:

https://www.si.com/nfl/bengals/news/nfl-moves-bengals-49ers-week-14-matchup

[oregonred]

I was surprised they didn't flex the Chargers game.

With Burrow everything has a different feel. They can beat anyone on any given day.

[Bob Sheed]

Herbert is a running QB? How is he going to run all over them? You already assume that they will have personal foul penalties? If the Bengals can run on the Steelers they sure as heck can run on the Chargers and Herbert not a better QB then Burrow. Don’t care what the weather is like.

Poor weather favors the Chargers, in my opinion. Herbert scrambles a lot, yes, from what I have seen. I think any team facing a scrambling QB has the same problems because of the rules that protect QBs.




I know you’re jaded about this team actually being good but you’re looking under the most weird ways to convince yourself they will find a way to lose. At least you’re not a Bengal fan who’s really a Steelers lover and admirer while being convinced they can just trade for Rodgers without any problem.

Nah man, I'm hyped about this iteration. And the more I think about it, I doubt Rodgers wants any part of the AFC North. Doubtful the Steelers have the cap for him anyway.

Not sure how much you have watched of Herbert, but I don't think he is to be taken lightly.

[KoryMac5]

Poor weather favors the Chargers, in my opinion. Herbert scrambles a lot, yes, from what I have seen. I think any team facing a scrambling QB has the same problems because of the rules that protect QBs.




Nah man, I'm hyped about this iteration. And the more I think about it, I doubt Rodgers wants any part of the AFC North. Doubtful the Steelers have the cap for him anyway.

Not sure how much you have watched of Herbert, but I don't think he is to be taken lightly.

Did poor weather favor Dan Fouts in 40 below...c'mon man (randy moss voice)

SD has to travel and play a 1pm game that is a huge factor for Sunday that you failed to mention. One of the reasons I am glad they were not flexed.

[Bob Sheed]

Did poor weather favor Dan Fouts in 40 below...c'mon man (randy moss voice)

SD has to travel and play a 1pm game that is a huge factor for Sunday that you failed to mention. One of the reasons I am glad they were not flexed.

Sorry, I read it in more of a Gob from Arrested Development voice. :lol:

I agree though, the 1pm start favors the Bengals.

[oregonred]

That's a good point. The Chargers laid a complete egg (34-6) in Baltimore with a 1pm start in Week 6.

[Tony Cloninger]

Poor weather favors the Chargers, in my opinion. Herbert scrambles a lot, yes, from what I have seen. I think any team facing a scrambling QB has the same problems because of the rules that protect QBs.




Nah man, I'm hyped about this iteration. And the more I think about it, I doubt Rodgers wants any part of the AFC North. Doubtful the Steelers have the cap for him anyway.

Not sure how much you have watched of Herbert, but I don't think he is to be taken lightly.

Losing this game would not shock me after the Jets game. However I have not seen where Herbert scrambling is going to put fear into the Bengals D after dealing with Lemar Jackson the last 2 prior seasons.

[membengal]

This is an EXCELLENT quick watch from Orlavsky on the Bengals' execution of the zone blocking scheme under Pollack - gives you some insight into the work that the line has been putting in to get to this point - and Mixon's role in that - really really interesting...

https://twitter.com/danorlovsky7/status/1465814900131962880?s=20

[Redsfaithful]

This is an EXCELLENT quick watch from Orlavsky on the Bengals' execution of the zone blocking scheme under Pollack - gives you some insight into the work that the line has been putting in to get to this point - and Mixon's role in that - really really interesting...

https://twitter.com/danorlovsky7/status/1465814900131962880?s=20

Lot of people ridiculed the idea that going back to Pollack would be a game changer, but now here we are.

[membengal]

Pollack has definitely made a difference. But, also credit to the guys he's working with. The level of choreography and execution to make that scheme work doesn't happen overnight. Really interesting to see it maybe start to come together - and at a great time in the season too for that to possibly be happening.

[membengal]

This is most excellent from Baldinger on Adeniji:

https://twitter.com/BaldyNFL/status/1465865265451880449?s=20

[Sea Ray]

Lot of people ridiculed the idea that going back to Pollack would be a game changer, but now here we are.

I don't recall much of that at all. Bengal fans knew the previous O line coach (Turner?) sucked. I criticized the Bengals and Taylor for letting Pollack go. It was a sign that Taylor was in over his head

[membengal]

I think the attack was that pollack by himself couldn’t fix things - which was likely true - but they didn’t just rely on that - brought in Reiff. But he has helped get Spain back to a really high level and the line is really responding now.

[membengal]

Hoo boy is this ever a good read on Burrow:

https://www.nfl.com/news/sidelines/joe-burrow-s-steady-confidence-lifting-cincinnati-bengals?campaign=Twitter_atn

[Sea Ray]

Hoo boy is this ever a good read on Burrow:

https://www.nfl.com/news/sidelines/joe-burrow-s-steady-confidence-lifting-cincinnati-bengals?campaign=Twitter_atn

Never saw that sort of article written about Andy Dalton or even Carson Palmer for that matter. We finally got some luck in that he was available the year we got the #1 pick

[bucksfan2]

Never saw that sort of article written about Andy Dalton or even Carson Palmer for that matter. We finally got some luck in that he was available the year we got the #1 pick

Palmer was the real deal early on in his career. He was thought of very highly by many, especially during the early part of his run as a Bengal.

Dalton was always doubted. And I think everyone in the league knew who Dalton was. He was a starting caliber NFL QB but not a QB who could take over and win a game by himself.

[Sea Ray]

Palmer was the real deal early on in his career. He was thought of very highly by many, especially during the early part of his run as a Bengal.

Dalton was always doubted. And I think everyone in the league knew who Dalton was. He was a starting caliber NFL QB but not a QB who could take over and win a game by himself.

The knock on Palmer from the get go was his quiet personality. Some folks questioned his leadership abilities

[KoryMac5]

I feel like the win against the Steelers was franchise cleansing...had we lost at home to Pitts it would have been same old Bengals. I feel like the stadium will be rocking come Sunday against SD.

[Sea Ray]

I feel like the win against the Steelers was franchise cleansing...had we lost at home to Pitts it would have been same old Bengals. I feel like the stadium will be rocking come Sunday against SD.

Love the way you put it...:thumbup:

[oregonred]

Most of the country outside the six markets playing on CBS at 1pm gets the Chargers/Bengals game this weekend

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[BuckeyeRed27]

Yeeeesh those are some terrible games outside of Bengals Chargers. Not sure people in the home markets want to be forced to watch those!

[Todd Gack]

I feel like the win against the Steelers was franchise cleansing...had we lost at home to Pitts it would have been same old Bengals. I feel like the stadium will be rocking come Sunday against SD.

Maybe? I mean, this is the worst Steelers team since. . . . .?

It'll be cleansing when we beat them when it counts.

[Sea Ray]

Maybe? I mean, this is the worst Steelers team since. . . . .?

It'll be cleansing when we beat them when it counts.

Go tell the Browns that this is a bad Steeler team...

[membengal]

Go tell the Browns that this is a bad Steeler team...

He's such a hilarious troll. Steelers beat the bills too. And the broncos. But because the bengals beat them twice, steelers suck.

[RedTeamGo!]

Go tell the Browns that this is a bad Steeler team...

Ha, beating the Browns this year isn’t that much of an accomplishment, though!

Baker Mayfield is absolute garbage.

I legitimately do not understand how the Bengals lost so badly to the Browns earlier this year. The Browns are not a good team at all. The Bengals are way better and should have easily won that game.

I do agree beating the Steelers is always a positive, though. I don’t care who they are rolling out there.

[Todd Gack]

Go tell the Browns that this is a bad Steeler team...

Look at the remaining of the Steelers schedule with Ben or whoever at QB and their crappy OL. What's their final record is going to be? In 2003, they went 6-10. Aside from that, their worst record was 8-8. Are they getting to 8 wins this year? Please, tell me how they get to 8 wins even with a 17 game schedule.

I mean, you can just sense a lot of their guys are starting to give up this year. A lot of you guys were talking about how mediocre this team was last week in this thread. How are you all now saying how this Pittsburgh team is a solid team? My entire point is that you don't officially "cleanse" yourself of a rival until you actually beat them when it counts.

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He's such a hilarious troll. Steelers beat the bills too. And the broncos. But because the bengals beat them twice, steelers suck.

Honestly, you never show up when we lose so we can't take your opinion seriously around here. You're just a front runner.

[Sea Ray]

Look at the remaining of the Steelers schedule with Ben or whoever at QB and their crappy OL. What's their final record is going to be? In 2003, they went 6-10. Aside from that, their worst record was 8-8. Are they getting to 8 wins this year? Please, tell me how they get to 8 wins even with a 17 game schedule.

I mean, you can just sense a lot of their guys are starting to give up this year. A lot of you guys were talking about how mediocre this team was last week in this thread. How are you all now saying how this Pittsburgh team is a solid team? My entire point is that you don't officially "cleanse" yourself of a rival until you actually beat them when it counts.




The Steelers will luck out a few wins like they did in the first half vs the Seahawks, Bears and Lions (I know they tied). They should have lost all of those games

[KoryMac5]

Look at the remaining of the Steelers schedule with Ben or whoever at QB and their crappy OL. What's their final record is going to be? In 2003, they went 6-10. Aside from that, their worst record was 8-8. Are they getting to 8 wins this year? Please, tell me how they get to 8 wins even with a 17 game schedule.

I mean, you can just sense a lot of their guys are starting to give up this year. A lot of you guys were talking about how mediocre this team was last week in this thread. How are you all now saying how this Pittsburgh team is a solid team? My entire point is that you don't officially "cleanse" yourself of a rival until you actually beat them when it counts.

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Honestly, you never show up when we lose so we can't take your opinion seriously around here. You're just a front runner.

What does that say about your posting...you barely have a good word to say about this team, not sure why you follow this thread as the team obviously doesn't bring you much enjoyment. They are 7-4 and have beaten Pitts twice and Baltimore at home, to me that is progress. It's been nice turning on the TV and hearing the talking heads speaking positive about the future...instead of the same old Bengals we have been used to for 5 years. I for one look forward to the next few seasons of growth with this team, and not finding alternative plans on Sundays. The next 3 games are big tests for this team I will be interested in their response to some success.

[Hillsdale87]

This is the worst Steelers team since all the way back two years ago. They're not good, but they're not bad either. Beating the Steelers doesn't mean the Bengals are a Super Bowl contender, but they're a solid team. And beating down your rival is always a good thing


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[Redsfaithful]

Ha, beating the Browns this year isn’t that much of an accomplishment, though!

Baker Mayfield is absolute garbage.

I legitimately do not understand how the Bengals lost so badly to the Browns earlier this year. The Browns are not a good team at all. The Bengals are way better and should have easily won that game.

I do agree beating the Steelers is always a positive, though. I don’t care who they are rolling out there.

Baker Mayfield is All-Pro against the Bengals for some reason.

[GAC]

Baker Mayfield is All-Pro against the Bengals for some reason.

IMO, it's all about match-ups.

Mayfield shouldn't even be playing hurt. Simply blows my mind why pay Keenun 10M/year for just these types of situations if they aren't going to use him? Mayfield, right now, is not helping his cause at all. Don't care how much of a "gamer" he is.

I don't care if the Steelers are considered a good or bad team as long as they lose. But No, IMO, they aren't very good. Just as I was amazed at how bad the Browns beat the Bengals, I was also utterly amazed that we then turn around and lose to a bad Steeler team (lol). I simply credit it to being from Ohia.

But the Steelers have a very tough schedule remaining. IMO, at best they go 2-4 the rest of the way, which would put them 7-9-1. And Cleveland is in the same shoes.

I couldn't believe how poorly the Ravens played vs the Browns this last time, yet still found a way to win.

I think the Bengals are the team to beat in the North.

[RiverRat13]

Dehner had a good point in the HTPG podcast in that the Bengals have only faced two top 10 offenses according to DVOA (Minnesota and Green Bay) and will face the second (Chargers) and third (49ers) best offenses according to that metric in consecutive weeks. We'll know a lot more about this defense in about 10 days.

[Sea Ray]

Minnesota is a top ten offense? 49ers are top 5? I never knew...

[KoryMac5]

Dehner had a good point in the HTPG podcast in that the Bengals have only faced two top 10 offenses according to DVOA (Minnesota and Green Bay) and will face the second (Chargers) and third (49ers) best offenses according to that metric in consecutive weeks. We'll know a lot more about this defense in about 10 days.

Denver seems to be rising as well since they traded Miller it is a tough stretch for sure but one I am looking forward to....

[KoryMac5]

Bengals may be without Reiff and Hopkins Sunday both missed practice today...

[KoryMac5]

Bengals may be without Reiff and Hopkins Sunday both missed practice today...

Both inactive...Hill and Prince get the nod

[The Operator]

The Bengals defense has made some nice plays so far but gave up a huge 3rd down when they had a chance for a 3 & out, a huge deep strike on Awuzie and then a touchdown on 4th & goal.

Missed extra point and it’s 6-0 Chargers

[KoryMac5]

Herbert throws such a nice ball...got it through three guys. 6-0

[The Operator]

Herbert throws such a nice ball...got it through three guys. 6-0

It’s like watching Aroldis Chapman throw footballs. Crazy fast.

[The Operator]

Oh for the love of god.

[KoryMac5]

Jonah beat for a strip sack...

[The Operator]

Pretty fortunate to only be down 9-0 after that turnover and field position.

[KoryMac5]

3rd and long coming up...defense holds...9-0 SD

The offense needs to settle the nerves down and play with confidence.

[KoryMac5]

The return game is not helping things...

[The Operator]

Chargers are supposedly bad against the run but Mixon getting nowhere so far.

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And his first good run is called back by a hold. Lol

[The Operator]

Big play to Higgins.


Needed that.

[KoryMac5]

Jesus...

[The Operator]

You’ve gotta be kidding me.

Chase catches a deep ball, bobbles, and it’s intercepted.



We’re looking at another letdown after a blowout. Wow.

[Kingspoint]

Should have drafted Sewell.

Just kidding.

[LARKIN]

Damnit that was a dime. Chase cost us big time there.

[KoryMac5]

It's funny with Chase if he drops one it usually leads to another...looks like a confidence thing

[LARKIN]

Chargers are supposedly bad against the run but Mixon getting nowhere so far.

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And his first good run is called back by a hold. Lol


We are getting zero push up front. Now Herbert is throwing with confidence

[The Operator]

Very first play is a deep strike against Hilton.


Chargers already to the 20. Gonna be a loooooong day.

[KoryMac5]

Very first play is a deep strike against Hilton.


Chargers already to the 20. Gonna be a loooooong day.

Everything breaking right for SD right now I would expect that to even out...

[The Operator]

It’s amazing to only be down 16-0 after giving the ball away twice.


Better get something though.

[Kingspoint]

Everything breaking right for SD right now I would expect that to even out...

Should be 9-7.

[KoryMac5]

Side note joe Brady was fired by Carolina...I might bring him in as an offensive assistant

[The Operator]

LOL another first down called back by a penalty.


Brutal.

[KoryMac5]

Dumb penalty on Prince...he had his guy easily beat

[RiverRat13]

Side note joe Brady was fired by Carolina...I might bring him in as an offensive assistantWhy? His resume is having one fantastic year with the greatest collection of offensive talent in CFB history. He's done nothing when the talent isn't so unbalanced.

The two backup OL playing today are killing the offense.

[The Operator]

Brutal performance.

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And now Logan Wilson apparently injured.

What else can go wrong.

[RiverRat13]

Just a complete debacle in all 3 phases.

[The Operator]

And now they add 15 yards onto the end of the kick.


Total self destruction.

[KoryMac5]

Ugly...

[The Operator]

Wilson being carted off.


Chargers may hang 60 on us today.

[The Operator]

And Boyd’s in the locker room too? I missed that one.

Ugh.

[RiverRat13]

Bengals have had few injuries all year. Now getting hit with them this week all at once.

[The Operator]

Mixon continues to be absolutely irrelevant and loses 5.

[RiverRat13]

Stop running the ball on 1st down.

[The Operator]

And another sack.

Punting unit comes in.

[KoryMac5]

Other guys have to step up...good teams are able to survive injuries

[LARKIN]

Lol Guyton just mossed our stud. This team is smoke and mirrors

[CTA513]

classic Bengals performance here.

[The Operator]

Pass interference by Bates and still gives up the TD.


Mercy.

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2-point conversion makes it 24-0.


Brutal.

[Larkin90]

Herbert > Burrow

[KoryMac5]

Welp guess I can find something else to do today...

This team continues to choke anytime they find success...I realize they are young but at some point you have to believe in your talent.

[The Operator]

classic Bengals performance here.

Second time this year we’ve followed up an absolute blowout with an absolute dud.


Very Bengal-esque.

[UKFlounder]

This is the team we all know and follow.

Normalcy is back, at least for today

[RiverRat13]

Looking like the team was right to play hardball with the Bates extension.

[KoryMac5]

Herbert > Burrow

You always come in with this nonsense...you also said Tua was better last season if I remember.

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Looking like the team was right to play hardball with the Bates extension.

Agreed I would like to extend him but not at a premium he wants.

[The Operator]

You always come in with this nonsense...you also said Tua was better last season if I remember

Yep he sure did.


Herbert may have the better arm but that doesn’t automatically make him the better QB. Jeff George had a cannon too.


Obviously Herbert is far better than Jeff George was but there are more factors than how hard a QB throws.


This same Chargers team got waxed by the Ravens, who the Bengals waxed. Football is strange.

[RiverRat13]

Backing up your center coming off an ACL tear with a 6th round rookie probably isn't the best plan.

[The Operator]

Touchdown! We’re on the board!!!

[Kingspoint]

Higgins!!!

[The Operator]

Really nice to see Higgins starting to make some big plays.

[Kingspoint]

Have to go for 2 every touchdown.

[The Operator]

Going for 2 looks like

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LOL delay of game on the 2 pointer

[Oxilon]

Herbert > Burrow

Outside of the first Mike Williams TD pass, Herbert has just been throwing jump balls. Not sure how you're coming away with this take...

[The Operator]

And he misses the kick. LOL

[Kingspoint]

Did the Offensive Line not attend any practices this week?

[RiverRat13]

A delay out of a timeout. Sad.

[Reds Freak]

Herbert > Burrow

There he is! Welcome back! Still not over Burrow stealing your girlfriend or what is it?

[The Operator]

Outside of the first Mike Williams TD pass, Herbert has just been throwing jump balls. Not sure how you're coming away with this take...

BeCaUsE bUrRoWs Is A bENGaL aNd BeNgAlS sUcK

[Kingspoint]

Don't care if it's 7 yards....go for 2.

[Reds Freak]

Outside of the first Mike Williams TD pass, Herbert has just been throwing jump balls. Not sure how you're coming away with this take...

Go back and look at his posting history from last year. He wet himself every time Burrow threw an incompletion. Predictably, this is his first appearance in the Bengals thread this year.

[KoryMac5]

Not sure what the defensive game plan is Lou...guys running free all day. No pressure at all...

[Larkin90]

You always come in with this nonsense...you also said Tua was better last season if I remember.

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Agreed I would like to extend him but not at a premium he wants.

Lol, Tua is ranked 8 spots higher than Burrow in QB rating so far this year. Just sayin’… So what’s your point again?

[The Operator]

Guys are just wide open. All day.

[The Operator]

Fumble!!!!!

Oh god we needed that.

[Reds Freak]

Lol, Tua is ranked 8 spots higher than Burrow in QB rating so far this year. Just sayin’… So what’s your point again?

Is your position that you'd rather the Bengals have Tua than Burrow?

[The Operator]

Is your position that you'd rather the Bengals have Tua than Burrow?

I know a whole bunch of Dolphins fans that would swap them in a heartbeat. lol

[RiverRat13]

It will be close to see if the fumble stands.

Jesse needs to make a move on Herbert and score there.

[The Operator]

“Under further review”


Screw job incoming

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The ruling on the field should absolutely stand here. But I’m sure it will go the Chargers’ way.

[RiverRat13]

Jesse had two blockers with him. He outran both when they could have taken Herbert out.

[Hillsdale87]

What a play, but if Bates waits for his blocker that's a TD


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[Bob Sheed]

Bengals will come back and win this, mark it down.

[The Operator]

They got it right


Color me surprised

[The Operator]

Jesse had two blockers with him. He outran both when they could have taken Herbert out.

As long as we punch this in I’m okay. Gives the defense a rest.

[KoryMac5]

Nice read by Burrow to scramble...

[The Operator]

Burrow!!! TD!!

Herbert would have apparently scored 2 touchdowns on that and then invented a perpetual motion machine in the end zone, but I’ll take it.

[Kingspoint]

Have you noticed Burrow hurt his hand?

He wasn't touched on that play, but he was trying to shake it loose like one does when there's no feel in it.

[The Operator]

Oh god Burrow holding his pinky finger.

[Kingspoint]

Nevermind....dislocated pinky on the throwing hand. Shouldn't effect his throw too much.

[KoryMac5]

Burrow looks to have hurt his throwing hand on that play...

[Kingspoint]

Burrow looks to have hurt his throwing hand on that play...

Wasn't on that play. He wasn't touched.

[The Operator]

Brandon Allen taking warmup throws.


I hate football.

[KoryMac5]

not good...could be torn ligament

[Kingspoint]

Shoot, they couldn't put it back in place. Definitely a problem. Get him in the lockerroom and work on it.

[Kingspoint]

Seems more broken than dislocated. Dang it. Get him right for the playoffs. We have a solid team and Brandon Allen can win games with this Defense and running game. We get Reiff back next week.

[The Operator]

2 straight sacks on Herbert!!!

[KoryMac5]

BJ Hill what a great trade...

[Kingspoint]

What a great pick!

[The Operator]

Intercepted!!!!

Ball back to mid field!

[KoryMac5]

Damn he was beat and recovered...

[Larkin90]

Is your position that you'd rather the Bengals have Tua than Burrow?

Herbert > Burrow. Tua vs Burrow is a toss up at this point.

That’s a pointless debate though. It’s like arguing about who’s better between Alex Smith vs Jason Campbell while Aaron Rodgers is off winning Super Bowls. Herbert was the generational QB and we flubbed the pick, that’s all that really matters.

[The Operator]

And now Awuzie is hurt.


For the love.

[Hillsdale87]

Wow. Snakebite this game. Now Awuzie hurt too


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[KoryMac5]

Christ...Awuzie helped off the field

[The Operator]

What in the absolute hell was that

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Bizarre play calling when you can’t stop the clock

[KoryMac5]

I have not seen Burrow this animated

[Reds Freak]

Herbert > Burrow. Tua vs Burrow is a toss up at this point.

That’s a pointless debate though. It’s like arguing about who’s better between Alex Smith vs Jason Campbell while Aaron Rodgers is off winning Super Bowls. Herbert was the generational QB and we flubbed the pick, that’s all that really matters.

I think Herbert is and will be a very good NFL QB. But I'm nothing but thrilled to have Burrow as the Bengals QB and I'd love to get to the bottom of your hatred for him.

Calling Tua vs. Burrow a toss up at this point is laughable.

[The Operator]

I think Herbert is and will be a very good NFL QB. But I'm nothing but thrilled to have Burrow as the Bengals QB and I'd love to get to the bottom of your hatred for him.

I can only imagine he was a student at OSU or even LSU and Burrow stole a girl from him or something. Lol

[KoryMac5]

I love both QB's I don't see the continued comparison...both are franchise changers.

[KoryMac5]

Awuize ran off the field...

Bengals have 20 mins to get that pinky right...

[Larkin90]

I think Herbert is and will be a very good NFL QB. But I'm nothing but thrilled to have Burrow as the Bengals QB and I'd love to get to the bottom of your hatred for him.

Calling Tua vs. Burrow a toss up at this point is laughable.

Tua is rated significantly higher than Burrow is for the year, so yeah, I guess it is a bad comparison…maybe Burrow can hold his clipboard in a few years.

I don’t hate Burrow, he just hasn’t shown himself to be the generational gunslinger I wanted. He’s basically looking like Andy Dalton 2.0. Good enough to start for a few years, but not the kind of guy who’s going to drag his team to victory.

[Playadlc]

Tua is rated significantly higher than Burrow is for the year, so yeah, I guess it is a bad comparison…maybe Burrow can hold his clipboard in a few years

I mean, you are trolling, right?

[Reds Freak]

Tua is rated significantly higher than Burrow is for the year, so yeah, I guess it is a bad comparison…maybe Burrow can hold his clipboard in a few years.

I don’t hate Burrow, he just hasn’t shown himself to be the generational gunslinger I wanted. He’s basically looking like Andy Dalton 2.0. Good enough to start for a few years, but not the kind of guy who’s going to drag his team to victory.

Rated how? QBR?

Tua has the second best QB rating in the league. You think Tua is the second best QB in the league? You taking him over Brady, Rodgers, Mahomes, Wilson? Your guy Herbert is ranked 18 and your nemesis Burrow is fourth btw.

[Kingspoint]

Swollen like that? That's a broken bone.

[KoryMac5]

Burrow is showing his guts being out there...expect dink and dunk the rest of the game.

[Tony Cloninger]

Herbert > Burrow. Tua vs Burrow is a toss up at this point.

That’s a pointless debate though. It’s like arguing about who’s better between Alex Smith vs Jason Campbell while Aaron Rodgers is off winning Super Bowls. Herbert was the generational QB and we flubbed the pick, that’s all that really matters.

You’re the only one debating it in your head really. No one is generational after only 2 years in the league and no playoff wins. Is pot legal in your state ?

[Bob Sheed]

Jeez Mixon too?

[The Operator]

Burrow is showing his guts being out there...expect dink and dunk the rest of the game.

I bet Tua and Herbert would both be able to throw the ball 90 yards with a hurt finger.


If Burrow can’t then he is clearly an Andy Dalton clone.

[Kingspoint]

Burrow is showing his guts being out there...expect dink and dunk the rest of the game.

They haven't thrown one pass to Mixon.

Damn! I just dropped Perine from my FFB team this morning (I have Mixon).

[Hillsdale87]

Might want to just forfeit this game to avoid losing the whole team to injury


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[The Operator]

Logan Wilson out. Shoulder injury. Damn.


Boyd!!!

[KoryMac5]

Slow the game right down...keep the Chargers off the field

[The Operator]

That pass didn’t have much zip on it but it got the job done.

[Larkin90]

Rated how? QBR?

Tua has the second best QB rating in the league. You think Tua is the second best QB in the league? You taking him over Brady, Rodgers, Mahomes, Wilson? Your guy Herbert is ranked 18 and your nemesis Burrow is fourth btw.

Where are you getting that information at? According to QBR (via ESPN), Herbert is rated #1 in the league, followed by Stafford, Rodgers, Brady, and Murray…

[The Operator]

So many first down runs for 2 yards or less. Lol


And Mixon returns.

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Now that pass has some more zip on it. Overthrown but an encouraging sign.

[KoryMac5]

Chase has disappeared after that bad drop

[The Operator]

Another holding penalty.

Jesus.

[Kingspoint]

Really?!

Another holding call?

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So many first down runs for 2 yards or less. Lol


And Mixon returns.

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Now that pass has some more zip on it. Overthrown but an encouraging sign.

From the first pass, post injury, when he tries to add zip, the inaccuracy comes with it.

[Hillsdale87]

Take away Chase making one of the worst plays in NFL history and this would be tied


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[Kingspoint]

Gutsy effort by the Bengals.

[The Operator]

McPherson is so good.

24-16



Really need the D to keep it right where it is.

[Tony Cloninger]

They can’t win with this defense and Allen as the QB. This defense is inconsistent and their DC is always making things difficult or trying to who knows what out there.

[Kingspoint]

Take away Chase making one of the worst plays in NFL history and this would be tied


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Like the Canseco head bump over the wall for a homerun.

[The Operator]

Take away Chase making one of the worst plays in NFL history and this would be tied


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The Chase play and the Burrow strip sack really are the difference so far.

[KoryMac5]

Momentum has swung back over...desperate for a 3 and out.

[Kingspoint]

They can’t win with this defense and Allen as the QB. This defense is inconsistent and their DC is always making things difficult or trying to who knows what out there.

I disagree completely. I think the rest of the team would step up if Burrow missed some games.

[Reds Freak]

Where are you getting that information at? According to QBR (via ESPN), Herbert is rated #1 in the league, followed by Stafford, Rodgers, Brady, and Murray…

Wait, I was looking at completion percentage, not QB rating. Mainly because I don't know anyone who judges a QB based on their QB rating unless they are trying to cherry pick.

[The Operator]

OPI?


I’ll take it. Need a 3 & out here.

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False start!!

[KoryMac5]

SD self destructing a bit to start the half...keep it going.

[The Operator]

I feel a jump ball coming here

[Kingspoint]

Wait, I was looking at completion percentage, not QB rating. Mainly because I don't know anyone who judges a QB based on their QB rating unless they are trying to cherry pick.

The PFF QB Rating is a bit better.

[The Operator]

Immediately gets 12 back on a catch and run.

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Bengals have the football!!!

[KoryMac5]

DEFENSE!!!

[KoryMac5]

Love the Mike Hilton signing!

[Kingspoint]

This is a very good Defense the Bengals have. It's as good, if not better, than any Defense that Zimmer put together here. I think it's better. It doesn't have Kirkpatrick or Peko.

[The Operator]

Not exactly what you wanna see on first down.

[LARKIN]

Come Joe!

[The Operator]

And suddenly Chase re-appears.

[Kingspoint]

SD self destructing a bit to start the half...keep it going.

You could see it in Herbert's eyes when he went to the bench after the series before. Burrow has never shown that in his eyes. Burrow is a better Quarterback, and I saw Herbert for four years as a Duck.

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Mixon!!!

[Kingspoint]

Try getting Mixon in some open space with some short throws on the next drive.

That was all Mixon on that last play...the O-Line just managed to hold their players in check, but Mixon found the hole.

[The Operator]

Touchdown!!!!!!!!!


Gotta go for 2

[KoryMac5]

GET SOME!!!

[The Operator]

Dammit


Ugh

[KoryMac5]

What a game...exciting to see two good teams going at it.

[The Operator]

Come on defense!!!! Get that ball back!

[Kingspoint]

.

[The Operator]

Sack!!!!

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And another sack!!!!!!

[KoryMac5]

FIRED UP!!! Hendrickson!

[The Operator]

Alright.

Drive right down for a touchdown.

[KoryMac5]

Time to go ahead Joe!

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Alright.

Drive right down for a touchdown.

Leave no doubt and don't look back!

[Kingspoint]

Lou Anarumo is the most underrated Defensive Coordinator in the NFL, and there's not a close second. He's highly underrated by Bengals' fans, too.

The guy is good and getting better every year with the experience from one year to the next. He's better than Zimmer is right now. Zimmer is going downhill fast. He'll be gone from the Vikings within two years.

[Kingspoint]

That was accurate.

[The Operator]

Welp.


Not good.

[KoryMac5]

Prince didn't see his man...

[The Operator]

Need the defense to keep playing big time football.


Let’s go!

[The Operator]

Damn I thought we almost had a safety there.


Either way. Defense forces a punt!

[KoryMac5]

This pass rush is relentless since the 1st half great adjustments made at the half

[Kingspoint]

Chargers' Special Teams is ranked dead last in the NFL. Was hoping we could take advantage of that today.

[Kingspoint]

With the dead last ranked Rushing Defense of the Chargers, it's likely that we can take advantage of that in the 4th Quarter where that Defense is at it's worst.

[KoryMac5]

Damn I thought we almost had a safety there.


Either way. Defense forces a punt!

I thought he may catch it for a second...life as a Bengals fan.

[KoryMac5]

267 to 272 for total yds pretty much even between the 2 teams

[The Operator]

And there’s the other shoe.


Mixon coughs up the ball. TD.


Ouch.

[CTA513]

Mixon sewer brewer winner

[KoryMac5]

Still time left the road just got harder...

[The Operator]

31-22 game


Ugh

[Hillsdale87]

We've just gifted them two uncontacted turnovers


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[The Operator]

A drop by Chase

[KoryMac5]

Consistency...not being able to maintain momentum.

[The Operator]

Welp. There’s that.


Not loving our chances now. They missed 2 straight chances to take the lead.


Can’t keep asking the defense to perform miracles.

[Kingspoint]

Burrow's teammates completely failed him. Welcome to Russell Wilson's world.

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Welp. There’s that.


Not loving our chances now. They missed 2 straight chances to take the lead.


Can’t keep asking the defense to perform miracles.

Down two scores. Defense is going to have to get a turnover here.

[The Operator]

About gonna need a pick 6 at this point.

[The Operator]

It’ll be ballgame here shortly.

Chargers 1st and goal at the 1.

[KoryMac5]

About gonna need a pick 6 at this point.

That or quick 3 and outs...


Young team going to be a roller coaster...fun game thread though!

[Kingspoint]

The Defense got the life sucked out of them by the Offense on that last series.

[The Operator]

And there it is.


So disappointing.

[Kingspoint]

Going to be a lot of DNP's on Tuesday and Wednesday.

[KoryMac5]

And there it is.


So disappointing.

This team disappears at home so strange...

[KoryMac5]

Going to be a lot of DNP's on Tuesday and Wednesday.

Plus a Burrow update...as a Bengal fan I fully expect the worst

[Reds Freak]

Eh. Young team with lots of ups and downs in them in a league with a ton of parity. I don't think we should be surprised by the roller coaster week to week with this team.

[Hillsdale87]

This is just one of those games... I don't feel too bad about how the Bengals have played overall, but 2 fluke turnovers, some drops, some great plays by the Chargers could make the final score look ugly.


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[LARKIN]

Chases drop to interception was critical. Good players can’t let that happen. Then add another drop or two and you’ve got an awful game

[KoryMac5]

This is just one of those games... I don't feel too bad about how the Bengals have played overall, but 2 fluke turnovers, some drops, some great plays by the Chargers could make the final score look ugly.


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I am interested in how they play the rest of the quarter...and next week...how do you take the bad with the good.

[The Operator]

And now Higgins is hurt.


God help us

[Kingspoint]

The Bengals are a very tough team,...toughest I've seen since the 1980's.

[The Operator]

Absolutely killing themselves with penalties

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Picked off in the end zone.

Ballgame.

[The Operator]

5 minutes to say “no foul on the play”.


Okay lol

[The Operator]

Bengals out of timeouts

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False start on a QB.

Not something you see every day. Lol

[The Operator]

And before the false start the Chargers are apparently challenging the spot of the ball.


First down incoming. Because Bengals.

[UKFlounder]

If they finish with fewer than 10 losses, the front office (and dome fans) will be satisfied because “improvement.”

Oh well. Still the same

[The Operator]

Joey Turnover is the perfect face of this franchise.

That seems harsh. The first pick was 100% on Chase and Mixon’s fumble was also a killer.

Burrow’s pick in the end zone was bad but this is hardly on him.

[The Operator]

This line is getting Burrow killed.

6 sacks.

[UKFlounder]

It is harsh so I edited it out



That seems harsh. The first pick was 100% on Chase and Mixon’s fumble was also a killer.

Burrow’s pick in the end zone was bad but this is hardly on him.

[The Operator]

And they turn it over on downs. That should officially do it.

[The Operator]

Turnovers. Drops. Stupid penalties. Missed extra points.

They had all the momentum in the world and self destructed.


I know they’re young. But this is a very Marvin-esque loss and would have been a perfect chance to shake that narrative once and for all. Dang it.

And we’ve got one of the absolute toughest remaining schedules.

[Hillsdale87]

This line is getting Burrow killed.

6 sacks.

The line is not very good anyway in obvious passing situations, but it has no chance without Hopkins and Rieff.


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[Hillsdale87]

Turnovers. Drops. Stupid penalties. Missed extra points.

They had all the momentum in the world and self destructed.


I know they’re young. But this is a very Marvin-esque loss and would have been a perfect chance to shake that narrative once and for all. Dang it.

And we’ve got one of the absolute toughest remaining schedules.

IMO it's a frustrating loss, but I'm not that frustrated with the performance. They had 2 of the worst turnovers you'll ever see that we're the difference in the final score. A bunch of bad luck all coming in one game wrecked them, but they don't feel like fundamental flaws to me


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[Todd Gack]

This line is getting Burrow killed.

6 sacks.

Out of all of the terrible plays today by this team, the most laughable one was by someone who didn't make one: Jackson Carmen. It's comical that our 2nd round pick can't even make the field even after 2 starters go out.

[The Operator]

Only in Cincinnati do you follow up a blowout win with an absolute stinker not once but twice in the same season.


This one hurts.

[757690]

Clearly there is a quota of how much enjoyment a Cincinnati football fan can have in one week, and the Bearcats used it all up with their playoff birth this week.

[Playadlc]

Today was another gut punch. However if Reiff and Hopkins are back next week I see this team finishing strong.

[Bob Sheed]

I should have known that with oline injuries this would be the result.

[KoryMac5]

Burrow said he is not going to miss any time...dislocated on the sack fumble.

[RedTeamGo!]

That drop by Chase right into the hands of the chargers DB was so bizarre. Just a perfectly thrown ball.

[Reds Freak]

Looks like Pittsburgh might knock off Baltimore. The division is a real cluster at the moment.

[Todd Gack]

Looks like Pittsburgh might knock off Baltimore. The division is a real cluster at the moment.

Maybe Pittsburgh MIGHT get to 8 wins after all. . . lol

[Playadlc]

Bengals are the best team in the North. Just gotta prove it down the stretch.

[Reds Freak]

Bengals are the best team in the North. Just gotta prove it down the stretch.

The AFC is filled with a bunch of decent but inconsistent teams. Thirteen of the 16 teams have between 6-8 wins. Gonna be a wild next few weeks.

[Bob Sheed]

That finger though...

...And the offensive line.

[oregonred]

The AFC is completely bonkers this year

The Mixon fumble was a killer in FG range for the go ahead score. The crowd would have been bananas if the Bengals took the lead on that drive.

Literally changed the complete momentum of the game in one play

[GAC]

The AFC is completely bonkers this year

The Mixon fumble was a killer in FG range for the go ahead score. The crowd would have been bananas if the Bengals took the lead on that drive.

Literally changed the complete momentum of the game in one play

Yep. And good teams don't let that happen, even when a critical turnover occurs. You find the ways to regroup. The Bengals are a much-improved team. Burrows is the real deal. They're the team to beat in the North IMO. But as far as the AFC as a whole? I think it's still going to go through NE or KC. NE just put a hurtin' on the Titans yesterday. KC comes to Cincy early next month.

In the AFC division titles are still up in the air. Not so much in the NFC.

[WVRed]

Bengals are the best team in the North. Just gotta prove it down the stretch.

And if they do win it, it goes to show the AFC North is the worst division in the NFL after it had shown promise of being one of the best. The Ravens/Browns game last week was an embarrassment for the entire division.

I really think we beat Baltimore just like Pittsburgh. Cleveland could go either way but I’m not as optimistic as I am with Baltimore.

Pittsburgh is trash. Ben is going out like Eli Manning rather than Peyton. Baker Mayfield hurts Cleveland more than he helps. And Lamar Jackson can’t complete a three yard pass in crunch time.

And the Bengals can’t win a game outside the AFC North it seems like. I wouldn’t be surprised if they do enough to win the division and lay an egg in the first round of the playoffs.

[Todd Gack]

Bengals are the best team in the North. Just gotta prove it down the stretch.

I think they're the most complete team with the biggest upside, but the OL and coaching are our downfalls. Which is a big reason for the inconsistency with this team.

[Hillsdale87]

https://twitter.com/pff_andrewr/status/1467855154414342147?s=21


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[membengal]

I sold my home Friday and moving trucks here tomorrow - staying local(ish) to Balt City - just moving further north. Caught scattered pieces of the game. I put that loss on Jonah, Chase and Mixon. Just...make plays fellas. Those turnovers are killers and cost us 21 points really.