2022 NFL Playoff Thread

[WVRed]

New thread for the playoffs.

[The Operator]

All the matchups are set.

Bengals get The Raiders. Hopefully this is the year.

[The Operator]

Really don’t understand going Chiefs-Steelers in the prime time slot for Sunday. They’re gonna put a game with a 15.5 point spread in the biggest slot of the weekend?

I mean, yea, Big Ben back in the playoffs, we get it…. But wow.


I figured they’d go Cowboys-49’ers and hype the rematch of the 90’s dynasties all week long.

[oregonred]

That made no sense to put the most uncompetitive game (on paper) in the Sunday night slot. I would have bet on 49ers and Cowboys but not sure NBC had first pick...

[WVRed]

Really don’t understand going Chiefs-Steelers in the prime time slot for Sunday. They’re gonna put a game with a 15.5 point spread in the biggest slot of the weekend?

I mean, yea, Big Ben back in the playoffs, we get it…. But wow.


I figured they’d go Cowboys-49’ers and hype the rematch of the 90’s dynasties all week long.

Ratings.

People will watch it because it’s potentially Roethlisbergers final game. More eyes will be on that compared to the Cowboys.

Not surprised with the Bengals draw though.

[goreds2]

NFL Super Wild Card Weekend

Saturday, January 15

4:30 p.m ET: (5) Las Vegas Raiders at (4) Cincinnati Bengals
TV channel: NBC, Peacock

8:15 p.m. ET: (6) New England Patriots at (3) Buffalo Bills
TV channel: CBS

———————————
Sunday, January 16

1:00 p.m. ET: (7) Philadelphia Eagles at (2) Tampa Bay Buccaneers
TV channel: FOX

4:30 p.m. ET: (6) San Francisco 49ers at (3) Dallas Cowboys
TV channel: CBS, Nickelodeon, Amazon Prime Video

8:15 p.m. ET: (7) Pittsburgh Steelers at (2) Kansas City Chiefs
TV channel: NBC, Peacock

———————————-
Monday, January 17

8:00 p.m. ET: (5) Arizona Cardinals at (4) Los Angeles Rams
TV channel: ESPN, ABC, ESPN2

[Rojo Rijo]

Predictions:

#4 Bengals 34 #5 Raiders 30
#3 Bills 24 #6 Patriots 22
#2 Bucs 28 #7 Eagles 14
#3 Cowboys 37 #6 49ers 20
#2 Chiefs 38 #7 Steelers 17
#4 Rams 24 #5 Cardinals 17

#1 Titans 34 #4 Bengals 24
#3 Bills 37 #2 Chiefs 35
#1 Packers 27 #4 Rams 17
#2 Bucs 30 #3 Cowboys 27

#1 Titans 31 #3 Bills 25
#1 Packers 41 #2 Bucs 35

Packers 38 Titans 34


*I think the winner comes from the Rodgers/Brady match that i'm pretty confident will happen. I went with Green Bay because Brady is down 2 of his 3 top WRs and I expect Davante Adams will either be doubled or feast on Tampa's secondary.
*The best game of this scenario and one I hope will happen is Bills-Titans round 2. Eight lead changes the last time these two met, and both teams were in good health at that time.
*The most dangerous team from the NFC that makes me nervous about my predication is the Rams. In the AFC its the Bengals.
*The teams I think have no shot at getting to the SuperBowl - Philadelphia, Las Vegas, Pittsburgh, and Arizona. Of those 4 the one that gives me pause is Arizona, but I see no way without Hopkins. Las Vegas is playing well, but I think Cincinnati's offense is too potent.
*Even if it ends in defeat to Green Bay we are once again going to be shown why Tom Brady is the best to ever do it.

**Corrections made to reflect correct matchups
***Corrections made.....again.....

[goreds2]

It will be weird ( but a good thing ) seeing the Patriots playing on the road in a playoff game.

[Rojo Rijo]

Playoff teams records against current playoff teams

AFC
#1 Tennessee 6-3
#2 Kansas City 6-3
#4 Cincinnati 4-2
#5 Las Vegas 4-3
#6 New England 2-4
#2 Buffalo 2-5
#7 Pittsburgh 2-5

NFC
#1 Green Bay 5-1
#2 Tampa Bay 5-1
#5 Arizona 5-3
#6 San Francisco 4-5
#3 Dallas 3-4
#4 Los Angeles 3-5
#7 Philadelphia 0-6

[Chip R]

An article about what a tie last night would have cost the sports books

https://www.espn.com/chalk/story/_/id/33033082/sportsbooks-avoid-historic-loss-los-angeles-chargers-las-vegas-raiders-narrowly-dodge-tie-finale

[Rdirtypirates]

Playoff teams records against current playoff teams

AFC
#1 Tennessee 6-3
#2 Kansas City 6-3
#5 Las Vegas 4-3
#4 Cincinnati 3-3
#6 New England 2-4
#2 Buffalo 2-5
#7 Pittsburgh 2-5

NFC
#1 Green Bay 5-1
#2 Tampa Bay 5-1
#5 Arizona 5-3
#6 San Francisco 4-5
#3 Dallas 3-4
#4 Los Angeles 3-5
#7 Philadelphia 0-6

You may want to check these records again because I know the Bengals are wrong. It is 4-2 and the games we lost were by field goals to GB and SF.

[Chip R]

You may want to check these records again because I know the Bengals are wrong. It is 4-2 and the games we lost were by field goals to GB and SF.

Yep. Beat KC and Vegas and PIT twice.

[757690]

An article about what a tie last night would have cost the sports books

https://www.espn.com/chalk/story/_/id/33033082/sportsbooks-avoid-historic-loss-los-angeles-chargers-las-vegas-raiders-narrowly-dodge-tie-finale

The fix was in. The Chargers called a time out at the end because Goodell called the sideline to tell them to let the Raiders score or else. The league could not handle the sportsbooks, with which they just signed a huge deal, losing that much money.

I almost am serious about this.

[Tony Cloninger]

The fix was in. The Chargers called a time out at the end because Goodell called the sideline to tell them to let the Raiders score or else. The league could not handle the sportsbooks, with which they just signed a huge deal, losing that much money.

I almost am serious about this.


With all due respect to any gamblers here but F those people.

Also Fantasy Owners could be thrown In. I think some of these rule changes to make it impossible to defend and induce stupid numbers in the passing game are pushed by that part of the industry. But I’m not paranoid and looking for conspiracies.

[Sea Ray]

The fix was in. The Chargers called a time out at the end because Goodell called the sideline to tell them to let the Raiders score or else. The league could not handle the sportsbooks, with which they just signed a huge deal, losing that much money.

I almost am serious about this.

And they quickly told the Chargers defense who gave up a big run to get into FG range and the players complied?

[Bob Sheed]

Quite a co-ink-e-dink that everyone was so worried about a tie, and then they end up going to overtime, but rather than ending in a tie, which would not be must-see-tv, it instead ends with a dramatic FG.

Reminds me of The Truman Show, honestly.

Keep in mind, college football is classified as a "sport". The NFL is classified as "sport entertainment." What's the difference, you may ask?

What, indeed...


Throughout that case, the NFL repeatedly positioned itself legally as a “sports entertainment” business, not a genuinely contested “sport.” College football, for example, is legally classified as a “collegiate sport.” The only other “sports entertainment” businesses are professional wrestling and roller derby.

https://www.mediapost.com/publications/article/313959/string-theories-is-the-nfl-broken-because-its-fi.html#:~:text=Throughout%20that%20case%2C%20the% 20NFL,professional%20wrestling%20and%20roller%20de rby

Remember that the next time you see another one of those phantom holding calls or whatever that has a direct impact on the final score.

Now that your tin foil hat is on, ask yourself what is the big Truman Show-like story at this point. Big Ben, right?

Watch...

[Tuff Nut]

Predictions:

Bengals 34 Raiders 30
Bills 24 Patriots 22
Bucs 28 Eagles 14
Cowboys 37 49ers 20
Chiefs 38 Steelers 17
Rams 17 Cardinals 14

Packers 31 Bucs 30
Rams 31 Cowboys 28
Bills 34 Bengals 24
Titans 38 Chiefs 35

Packers 28 Rams 25
Titans 42 Bills 37

Packers 38 Titans 34

*I think the winner comes from the Rodgers/Brady match that i'm pretty confident will happen. I went with Green Bay because Brady is down 2 of his 3 top WRs and I expect Davante Adams will either be doubled or feast on Tampa's secondary.
*The best game of this scenario and one I hope will happen is Bills-Titans round 2. Eight lead changes the last time these two met, and both teams were in good health at that time.
*The most dangerous team from the NFC that makes me nervous about my predication is the Rams. In the AFC its the Bengals.
*The teams I think have no shot at getting to the SuperBowl - Philadelphia, Las Vegas, Pittsburgh, and Arizona. Of those 4 the one that gives me pause is Arizona, but I see no way without Hopkins. Las Vegas is playing well, but I think Cincinnati's offense is too potent.
*Even if it ends in round 2 defeat to Green Bay we are once again going to be shown why Tom Brady is the best to ever do it.

The Titans and Chiefs cannot play each other on 2nd round...they would only face each other in Championship...they are the #1 and #2 seeds.

[oregonred]

Also Bucs and Packers cannot play until the NFC Championship game

[bm1475]

When you take the sports betting now being legal in half the country; the NFL's partnerships with betting sites; the "eye in the sky" communicating with officials in real-time to change calls/no calls; and the incredibly high percentage of the time that high-profile games have been "instant classics" this year, I am 100% tinfoil hat on the NFL being at least somewhat rigged.

By "at least somewhat," I don't mean they're legislating blowouts; sometimes there's a game where there's nothing you can do about it. But when they have the chance to put their fingers on the scale and sway events, they've been doing it more than ever this season.

There's a reason they want everyone thinking the officials are incompetent. It's plausible deniability.

[Rojo Rijo]

Alright, I was confused by this image

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Not sure why I wasnt thinking clearly about which seed would play against who because the NFL plays based on which seeds win, not a set bracket. The #1 and #2 seeds playing that early shouldve set of something in my head but clearly it didnt.

Making changes...many of them lol

[WrongVerb]

So to play the Titans, the Bengals need to beat the Raiders, then have the Chiefs and Bills win as well. If the Bills lose, then the Bengals play the Chiefs again (provided both teams win).

[Slyder]

So to play the Titans, the Bengals need to beat the Raiders, then have the Chiefs and Bills win as well. If the Bills lose, then the Bengals play the Chiefs again (provided both teams win).

Hopefully Carr can eliminate that possibility ;). Bills can beat the Pats, and Big Ben retires. In which case its 5 Oak @ 1 Ten; 3 Bills @ 2 KC.

[Hillsdale87]

Predictions:

#4 Bengals 34 #5 Raiders 30
#3 Bills 24 #6 Patriots 22
#2 Bucs 28 #7 Eagles 14
#3 Cowboys 37 #6 49ers 20
#2 Chiefs 38 #7 Steelers 17
#4 Rams 24 #5 Cardinals 17

#2 Chiefs 42 #4 Bengals 35
#1 Titans 37 #3 Bills 34
#1 Packers 27 #4 Rams 17
#2 Bucs 30 #3 Cowboys 27

#1 Titans 35 #2 Chiefs 27
#1 Packers 40 #2 Bucs 37

Packers 38 Titans 34

So, chalk the whole way!

*I think the winner comes from the Rodgers/Brady match that i'm pretty confident will happen. I went with Green Bay because Brady is down 2 of his 3 top WRs and I expect Davante Adams will either be doubled or feast on Tampa's secondary.
*The best game of this scenario and one I hope will happen is Bills-Titans round 2. Eight lead changes the last time these two met, and both teams were in good health at that time.
*The most dangerous team from the NFC that makes me nervous about my predication is the Rams. In the AFC its the Bengals.
*The teams I think have no shot at getting to the SuperBowl - Philadelphia, Las Vegas, Pittsburgh, and Arizona. Of those 4 the one that gives me pause is Arizona, but I see no way without Hopkins. Las Vegas is playing well, but I think Cincinnati's offense is too potent.
*Even if it ends in defeat to Green Bay we are once again going to be shown why Tom Brady is the best to ever do it.

**Corrections made to reflect correct matchups

In this scenario, wouldn't the Bengals face the Titans, not the Chiefs, in round 2?


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[The Operator]

Quite a co-ink-e-dink that everyone was so worried about a tie, and then they end up going to overtime, but rather than ending in a tie, which would not be must-see-tv, it instead ends with a dramatic FG.

Reminds me of The Truman Show, honestly.

Keep in mind, college football is classified as a "sport". The NFL is classified as "sport entertainment." What's the difference, you may ask?

What, indeed...



https://www.mediapost.com/publications/article/313959/string-theories-is-the-nfl-broken-because-its-fi.html#:~:text=Throughout%20that%20case%2C%20the% 20NFL,professional%20wrestling%20and%20roller%20de rby

Remember that the next time you see another one of those phantom holding calls or whatever that has a direct impact on the final score.

Now that your tin foil hat is on, ask yourself what is the big Truman Show-like story at this point. Big Ben, right?

Watch...


I said this on another site last night… The Chiefs better come out guns a blazin’ and run up the score on The Steelers.

If it’s within 2 scores by the 4th quarter, strange things will start happening. Suddenly Ben will have all day to throw and nary a holding penalty to be found. Suddenly things that were allowed all game long will turn into pass interference.

I’ve seen it too many times over the years. Not saying it’s outright fixed, but if The Steelers are anywhere close late in the game, they absolutely start getting preferential officiating.

[Rojo Rijo]

In this scenario, wouldn't the Bengals face the Titans, not the Chiefs, in round 2?


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I keep managing to screw this thing up......

[Larkin90]

Quite a co-ink-e-dink that everyone was so worried about a tie, and then they end up going to overtime, but rather than ending in a tie, which would not be must-see-tv, it instead ends with a dramatic FG.

Reminds me of The Truman Show, honestly.

Keep in mind, college football is classified as a "sport". The NFL is classified as "sport entertainment." What's the difference, you may ask?

What, indeed...



https://www.mediapost.com/publications/article/313959/string-theories-is-the-nfl-broken-because-its-fi.html#:~:text=Throughout%20that%20case%2C%20the% 20NFL,professional%20wrestling%20and%20roller%20de rby

Remember that the next time you see another one of those phantom holding calls or whatever that has a direct impact on the final score.

Now that your tin foil hat is on, ask yourself what is the big Truman Show-like story at this point. Big Ben, right?

Watch...

^ This. Big Ben is the story this year. I’m expecting either Ben vs Rodgers or Ben vs Brady.

[Sea Ray]

^ This. Big Ben is the story this year. I’m expecting either Ben vs Rodgers or Ben vs Brady.

Not even the officials can make that much magic happen. The Steelers are not good and Ben is also a subpar player as of now

[Stray]

Non Bengals takes

I kinda don't think the Bucs are that good right now and the Eagles are super dangerous? Would not be surprised to see that Philly upset, tho I wouldn't wager anything on it. Chiefs huge, like 21+. 9ers over the Cowboys, and Cards/Rams is a tossup, but I'll go Cards because I do not think Stafford is that good. Pats vs Bills should be really good. I'll take the Bills because Josh Allen.

Also, Bengals by double digits.

[goreds2]

Not even the officials can make that much magic happen. The Steelers are not good and Ben is also a subpar player as of now

Since starting 1-3, the Steelers are 8-4-1.

[Hillsdale87]

Since starting 1-3, the Steelers are 8-4-1.

Tomlin is such a great coach. Nothing about this Steelers team makes it seem like they should be a playoff team. They had a -55 point differential. And yet they figured out a way to win some ugly games against good teams.


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[Kingspoint]

How is Bienemy not being requested for permission to interview by every team who has fired and will likely fire their Head Coach?

He should have a Head Coaching position before KC's playoff run ends (against Cincinnati).

[Sea Ray]

How is Bienemy not being requested for permission to interview by every team who has fired and will likely fire their Head Coach?

He should have a Head Coaching position before KC's playoff run ends (against Cincinnati).

I don't think coaching under Andy Reid is an automatic interview qualifier. Totally different skill set. My guess is Bienemy doesn't come across as HC material.

[WVRed]

I don't think coaching under Andy Reid is an automatic interview qualifier. Totally different skill set. My guess is Bienemy doesn't come across as HC material.

See Nagy, Matt

[WrongVerb]

I don't think coaching under Andy Reid is an automatic interview qualifier. Totally different skill set. My guess is Bienemy doesn't come across as HC material.

I'll second this, and expand on it a bit. Years ago, the foster son of a friend of mine was making a career out of football coaching. He got to go to some elite program where they were instructed by some of the best coaches in the world (IIRC, Bobby Bowden was one). Anyway, had a discussion with this kid, and he was telling me that there's a pretty significant difference in relationship dynamics between players and a coordinator and players and a head coach. The coordinator is the benevolent leader of that particular side of the football, while the head coach is more of the strict disciplinarian. Perhaps it's true that Bienemy simply doesn't have it in him to be that disciplinarian, and that other teams see that, which is why he's gotten passed over so much.

[Todd Gack]

How is Bienemy not being requested for permission to interview by every team who has fired and will likely fire their Head Coach?

He should have a Head Coaching position before KC's playoff run ends (against Cincinnati).

It reminds me of when everyone in the CFB world thought Norm Chow should've been a HC and he was continually passed over by other folks. Maybe he's just not a HC?

[Chip R]

You, yes you can now eat Lays potato chips made in the soil of your favorite NFL team's stadium.

https://www.chewboom.com/2022/01/11/new-lays-golden-grounds-are-made-with-potatoes-grown-in-soil-from-your-favorite-nfl-teams-home-field/

[Sea Ray]

You, yes you can now eat Lays potato chips made in the soil of your favorite NFL team's stadium.

https://www.chewboom.com/2022/01/11/new-lays-golden-grounds-are-made-with-potatoes-grown-in-soil-from-your-favorite-nfl-teams-home-field/

My team plays on artificial turf. I don't think I want to eat Lay's grown in old rubber from used tires

[Chip R]

My team plays on artificial turf. I don't think I want to eat Lay's grown in old rubber from used tires

Don't knock it till you try it.

[Slyder]

How is Bienemy not being requested for permission to interview by every team who has fired and will likely fire their Head Coach?

He should have a Head Coaching position before KC's playoff run ends (against Cincinnati).

Can they since KC doesn't have a bye with the expanded playoffs?

[Kingspoint]

My team plays on artificial turf. I don't think I want to eat Lay's grown in old rubber from used tires

Probably healthier than what Lay's Potato Chips are made out of.

[goreds2]

3 things the Steelers must do to beat the Chiefs in the playoffs


Run the football - Relax - Tackle, tackle, tackle

https://steelerswire.usatoday.com/lists/steelers-chiefs-afc-nfl-wild-card-playoffs/

[Slyder]

3 things the Steelers must do to beat the Chiefs in the playoffs



https://steelerswire.usatoday.com/lists/steelers-chiefs-afc-nfl-wild-card-playoffs/


This could pretty much be applied to 95% of games....

[Sea Ray]

3 things the Steelers must do to beat the Chiefs in the playoffs



https://steelerswire.usatoday.com/lists/steelers-chiefs-afc-nfl-wild-card-playoffs/

I seriously don't think the Steelers can score enough points to keep up with the Chiefs. They'll likely need to score 30 pts to have a chance

[Bob Sheed]

I seriously don't think the Steelers can score enough points to keep up with the Chiefs. They'll likely need to score 30 pts to have a chance

In Sports? I agree.

In Sports Entertainment? We'll see.

We have the Big Ben Narrative.
We have the Brady/Patriots Narrative.
We have the Joe Burrow Narrative.
We have the Post-Gruden Raiders Narrative. (not a lot of traction there)

I'm sure I'm missing a couple. Just the fact that the Bengals even have a narrative, without it being drenched in negativity, as is the norm, is encouraging.

[goreds2]

NFL Super Wild Card Weekend

Saturday, January 15

4:30 p.m ET: (5) Las Vegas Raiders at (4) Cincinnati Bengals
TV channel: NBC, Peacock

8:15 p.m. ET: (6) New England Patriots at (3) Buffalo Bills
TV channel: CBS

———————————
Sunday, January 16

1:00 p.m. ET: (7) Philadelphia Eagles at (2) Tampa Bay Buccaneers
TV channel: FOX

4:30 p.m. ET: (6) San Francisco 49ers at (3) Dallas Cowboys
TV channel: CBS, Nickelodeon, Amazon Prime Video

8:15 p.m. ET: (7) Pittsburgh Steelers at (2) Kansas City Chiefs
TV channel: NBC, Peacock

———————————-
Monday, January 17

8:00 p.m. ET: (5) Arizona Cardinals at (4) Los Angeles Rams
TV channel: ESPN, ABC, ESPN2

Just bumping this for the weekend.

[bm1475]

Non-cable people, you can watch all the games via the NFL app on pretty much any smart device you have. I use an Xbox One and it works great.

[KoryMac5]

Hats off to Bills fans at the stadium it has to be about zero degrees there...Hyde with a great INT.

[The Operator]

Bengals just won a playoff game and The Buffalo Bills are blowing the doors off of The New England Patriots.

This ain’t the same old NFL right now.

[Yachtzee]

Bengals just won a playoff game and The Buffalo Bills are blowing the doors off of The New England Patriots.

This ain’t the same old NFL right now.

Must have gotten new scriptwriters.

[Stray]

When Josh Allen has good games like this nobody is beating the Bills. But he can have stinkers too.

[Tuff Nut]

The only thing that would have made the Bills win sweeter is if Thommy was still a Patriot.

[RedTeamGo!]

Is Belichek the GOAT? Or did he just win the lottery with Tom Brady? He has exactly 0 Super Bowls without Brady.

[Bourgeois Zee]

Is Belichek the GOAT? Or did he just win the lottery with Tom Brady? He has exactly 0 Super Bowls without Brady.

Brady makes anyone look great, but Belichick knew what to do with and around him.

I think a handful of coaches could have done that, but only a handful.

Off the top of my head, I'd argue that several former head coaches would have proven equal to or better than Belichick with Brady-- but might have failed at building around him.

Don Shula had his generation's Brady, for example, and was never able to build a consistent Super Bowl contender-- but maybe he's able to do that in today's game. Noll, Lombardi, and Landry may have made Brady work within their system-- Gibbs too. That might have worked.

Some guys, I think, would have been able to both help their QB and build around them, but would have only done it for a little while. (Burnout is real.) Tom Flores would have let Brady go to town and, I suspect, have built a team of malcontents around him. (That's who Belichick's Pats remind me of-- the late 70s and early 80s Raiders.) Madden as well. Neither would have done it for as long. Parcells, Shanahan, and Dungy might also have fallen into that category. Vermeil too. And an underrated choice-- George Seifert.

OTOH, Bill Walsh was able to do it twice. Jimmy Johnson did it in Dallas too. That's about it, IMO.

Belichick belongs with Walsh and Johnson as the top coaches in NFL history, but he doesn't belong at the top alone.

[RiverRat13]

Brady's numbers were pretty pedestrian that first Super Bowl year. I think it is fair to say that was Belichek's championship. Then you have the other win over the Rams where they held an explosive offense to 3 points.

[RedTeamGo!]

Brady makes anyone look great, but Belichick knew what to do with and around him.

I think a handful of coaches could have done that, but only a handful.

Off the top of my head, I'd argue that several former head coaches would have proven equal to or better than Belichick with Brady-- but might have failed at building around him.

Don Shula had his generation's Brady, for example, and was never able to build a consistent Super Bowl contender-- but maybe he's able to do that in today's game. Noll, Lombardi, and Landry may have made Brady work within their system-- Gibbs too. That might have worked.

Some guys, I think, would have been able to both help their QB and build around them, but would have only done it for a little while. (Burnout is real.) Tom Flores would have let Brady go to town and, I suspect, have built a team of malcontents around him. (That's who Belichick's Pats remind me of-- the late 70s and early 80s Raiders.) Madden as well. Neither would have done it for as long. Parcells, Shanahan, and Dungy might also have fallen into that category. Vermeil too. And an underrated choice-- George Seifert.

OTOH, Bill Walsh was able to do it twice. Jimmy Johnson did it in Dallas too. That's about it, IMO.

Belichick belongs with Walsh and Johnson as the top coaches in NFL history, but he doesn't belong at the top alone.

It’s just weird to me that Brady goes to Tampa and immediately wins a SB, and is looking in good position to win another this year, and the Pats were terrible in year 1 and got absolutely embarrassed by the Bills in the first round in year 2. I get it, you’re going with the Phil Jackson/Jordan defense, but so far, in his career without Brady (and remember he was a HC before Brady) he has done absolutely nothing.

[Sea Ray]

Let's see what Belichick does with Mac Jones. He did a hell of a lot this year. He's also getting pretty old. Kings Point has pointed this out before, but coaches get old too. Not just players. He does need some talent. Honestly that's not really the head coach's job

[Sea Ray]

Here's a question for the board: were there any guys out for covid this week? What happened to all the positives? I'm guessing that they're only testing those that are symptomatic and nobody's fessing up to having symptoms. The NFL doesn't want postseason games to be impacted by C19 so "all's good".

[Todd Gack]

It’s just weird to me that Brady goes to Tampa and immediately wins a SB, and is looking in good position to win another this year, and the Pats were terrible in year 1 and got absolutely embarrassed by the Bills in the first round in year 2. I get it, you’re going with the Phil Jackson/Jordan defense, but so far, in his career without Brady (and remember he was a HC before Brady) he has done absolutely nothing.

Bill Walsh did absolutely nothing without Joe Montana at QB.

[Bourgeois Zee]

It’s just weird to me that Brady goes to Tampa and immediately wins a SB, and is looking in good position to win another this year, and the Pats were terrible in year 1 and got absolutely embarrassed by the Bills in the first round in year 2. I get it, you’re going with the Phil Jackson/Jordan defense, but so far, in his career without Brady (and remember he was a HC before Brady) he has done absolutely nothing.

You might be right.

It's hard to parse player and coach/ GM.

[RedTeamGo!]

Let's see what Belichick does with Mac Jones. He did a hell of a lot this year. He's also getting pretty old. Kings Point has pointed this out before, but coaches get old too. Not just players. He does need some talent. Honestly that's not really the head coach's job


William Stephen Belichick (/ˈbɛlɪtʃɪk, ˈbɛlɪtʃɛk/; born April 16, 1952) is an American professional football coach who is the head coach of the New England Patriots of the National Football League (NFL). He exercises extensive authority over the Patriots' football operations, effectively making him the team's general manager as well.

From his profile on wiki

[Sea Ray]

From his profile on wiki

It's a lot to ask of a head coach. He doesn't have time to scout college players. Of course he has input but he can't be asked to do it all

Having said that, he was overruled in the Brady/ Garoppolo thing so he doesn't have absolute authority

[Wonderful Monds]

I think Belichick is a legitimately great coach, but I could see maybe the league finally catching up to him and maybe the game is a changing a bit that he doesn’t have the same dominant grasp on the rest of the league that he used to.

Don’t forget early in 2020 in Brady’s last game as a Pat, they got run out in the first round too by the Titans.

[Sea Ray]

Bill Walsh did absolutely nothing without Joe Montana at QB.

Of course Joe Montana was on his roster every yr of his NFL coaching career so it's hard to make a big deal out of your point.

[KoryMac5]

Tristan Wirfs out for TB big loss for the Bucs if he can't return.

[Sea Ray]

Of course Joe Montana was on his roster every yr of his NFL coaching career so it's hard to make a big deal out of your point.

I think a better example is Tony Dungy. Think he's in the Hall of Fame w/o Peyton? No damn way

[RichRed]

Tristan Wirfs out for TB big loss for the Bucs if he can't return.

A chance for JMU’s own Josh Wells to step up.

[UKFlounder]

Chuck Noll or Jimmy Johnson



I think a better example is Tony Dungy. Think he's in the Hall of Fame w/o Peyton? No damn way

[757690]

The league catching up with Belichick is just the league catching him cheating enough times that he can’t do it as well as he used to.

[Reds Freak]

Eagles look completely overmatched. Nice to see Gio get a TD.

[Todd Gack]

Of course Joe Montana was on his roster every yr of his NFL coaching career so it's hard to make a big deal out of your point.


Walsh was known as an "innovator" and mastermind on offense. Joe Montana greatly helped him in that regard.

Belichick is connected to Brady but people forget how good his defenses were. The Patriots won championships because their defenses allowed Brady to win more games than he ordinarily wouldn't have won. He hardly ever made coaching/ time management mistakes, knew the rulebook inside and out, and developed a culture where he could bring in guys like Randy Moss, etc.

NOT TO MENTION, Belichick lived in the salary cap era where it was much harder to win a Super Bowl without building Super Teams back in the day.

BRady and Belichick needed each other. The Roster in Tampa was already pretty solid. They had the same Team Offense rank as the year before with Winston but they brought in Todd Bowles to be their DC where they went from one of the worst to one of the best. Hell, even Winston would've looked a lot better with the defense they put together for Brady.

[WrongVerb]

Watching Brady today is like watching Burrow last night.

[RedsBaron]

Is Belichek the GOAT? Or did he just win the lottery with Tom Brady? He has exactly 0 Super Bowls without Brady.

Every AAFL and NFL champion coached by Paul Brown featured Otto Graham as QB.
Every NFL and Super Bowl champion coached by Vince Lombardi featured Bart Starr as QB.
Every Super Bowl champion coached by Tom Landry featured Roger Staubach as QB.
Every Super Bowl champion coached by Chuck Noll featured Terry Bradshaw as QB.
As previously noted, every Super Bowl champion coached by Bill Walsh featured Joe Montana as QB.

[Todd Gack]

Every AAFL and NFL champion coached by Paul Brown featured Otto Graham as QB.
Every NFL and Super Bowl champion coached by Vince Lombardi featured Bart Starr as QB.
Every Super Bowl champion coached by Tom Landry featured Roger Staubach as QB.
Every Super Bowl champion coached by Chuck Noll featured Terry Bradshaw as QB.
As previously noted, every Super Bowl champion coached by Bill Walsh featured Joe Montana as QB.

A lot of salt toward Bill and I don't know why. Every coach needs a great QB to win a Super unless you're the 2000 Baltimore Ravens.

[Reds Freak]

Eagles look completely overmatched. Nice to see Gio get a TD.

And the officiating making sure Eagles don't get the crazy idea they can compete in this game.

[Hillsdale87]

Brady's numbers were pretty pedestrian that first Super Bowl year. I think it is fair to say that was Belichek's championship. Then you have the other win over the Rams where they held an explosive offense to 3 points.

Those first 3 Super Bowls were mostly Belichick IMO. Brady was fine but didn't become a true star until that 2007 season.


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[Hillsdale87]

It’s just weird to me that Brady goes to Tampa and immediately wins a SB, and is looking in good position to win another this year, and the Pats were terrible in year 1 and got absolutely embarrassed by the Bills in the first round in year 2. I get it, you’re going with the Phil Jackson/Jordan defense, but so far, in his career without Brady (and remember he was a HC before Brady) he has done absolutely nothing.

I think people overplay the Bucs thing with Brady. Brady was smart in the team he chose. He knew he was going to a loaded team. It's not like he took a beleaguered roster and built them into champs. It was a really good team that was let down in 2019 by a QB who threw 30 INTs. They have 3 pro bowl OL, an elite receiving unit until the recent injuries/whatever AB did, and a great D. Probably the best roster in the NFL.

Not the Brady is unimpressive. He's an elite QB who had a great season, and that fact that he's 44 makes it all even crazier, but I just think the narrative of him turning around the Bucs is a bit overblown.

Belichick is a great coach. IMO I don't think there's anybody even close as a coach, but I think he's let himself down as a GM. It's impressive that he's been able to take teams with substandard talent to Super Bowls, but he could have been even more impressive if he actually selected good talent! His ability to coach up lower round guys is awesome, but his miss rate on high picks is a problem. His ability to constantly win trades helped overcome that a bit, but still an issue. I do think he's slowing down a bit now though. His in game decision making used to be on the cutting edge in terms of aggressiveness. Now he's extremely conservative. I get that he has a young QB, but it's cost them multiple times this year.


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[KoryMac5]

Jalen Hurts has been awful this game...very inaccurate. Minshew isn't the answer long tern but man he has to be better than this today.

[Sea Ray]

Every AAFL and NFL champion coached by Paul Brown featured Otto Graham as QB.
Every NFL and Super Bowl champion coached by Vince Lombardi featured Bart Starr as QB.
Every Super Bowl champion coached by Tom Landry featured Roger Staubach as QB.
Every Super Bowl champion coached by Chuck Noll featured Terry Bradshaw as QB.
As previously noted, every Super Bowl champion coached by Bill Walsh featured Joe Montana as QB.

Bradshaw wasn't the key to those Steeler SBs under Knoll. It was more about the Steel Curtain and the running game of Franco Harris & Rocky Bleier

[RedTeamGo!]

A lot of salt toward Bill and I don't know why. Every coach needs a great QB to win a Super unless you're the 2000 Baltimore Ravens.

What salt? I asked a question.

[CaiGuy]

No point in trying to sperate the successes of Tom and Bill. Tom isn't Tom without Bill, and vice versa.

Think that Tom would be what he is if Cleveland randomly took him before the Pats? Or that BB would have won a thousand super bowls without his franchise QB entrenched for decades and taking less money to help build the rest of the team?

They needed each other to do what they did. Plus a little help from a terrible division, the league always backing and protecting them, and some cheating tossed in.

Also Brady jumped the Pats when he knew that they would be bad and moved to the best team in the league. He's a great QB of course, so he could choose to do that. But he didn't really turn the franchise around single handedly.

[RiverRat13]

If you have to separate the QB from the coach, then Joe Gibbs is the GOAT for winning 3 Super Bowls with 3 different QBs.

[schmidty622]

Dak = Dalton

[RedsBaron]

Bradshaw wasn't the key to those Steeler SBs under Knoll. It was more about the Steel Curtain and the running game of Franco Harris & Rocky Bleier

Sure, but the point remains: Rare is the coach that wins Super Bowls or NFL championships with different QBs.
RiverRat13 correctly mentioned how Joe Gibbs won three Super Bowls with three different QBs. Another coach, not often mentioned among the NFL's greatest ever, George Siefert won Super Bowls with the 49ers with Joe Montana and Steve Young at QB.
Technically, Don Shula won NFL championships with both Earl Morrall and Bob Griese at QB. The "technical" part is that while Shula's 1968 Colts won the NFL championship with Morrall, they lost the Super Bowl to the Jets. As a further "technicality," while Griese started the back-to-back Super Bowls won by the 1972 and 1973 Dolphins, for most of the 1972 regular season, Morrall was Miami's starting QB because of an injury to Griese.
George Halas coached the Bears for a half century and won NFL titles with several QBs.

[kaldaniels]

Brady is the greatest QB ever.
Belichick is the greatest coach ever.

And no one asked but Saban is the greatest college coach ever.

All of that happened so fast relatively speaking…

[The Operator]

Alright can I just say that while it is a bit goofy, this NFL on Nickelodeon thing is actually pretty cool at the same time?

Brilliant move by the NFL to get kids more involved and interested in football.


Meanwhile, MLB is focused on unwritten rules and throwing projectiles at people’s heads for having too much fun in a game.

[Boston Red]

That should have been a pick 6 if the Cowboys DB was more patient. But we've got a game now.

[Hillsdale87]

I haven't watched a lot of Dallas this season, but Dak and Burrow have been the lead comeback POY guys all year, and it doesn't even look close. Dak has been atrocious today


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[redhawkfish]

Geez! Cowboys have 14 penalties so far in this game.

[UKFlounder]

“Interesting” play call by Dallas to end the game

[The Operator]

That was a “Ghost of Bengals Past” type ending in the Dallas game.

Run the ball to the middle of the field with no timeouts and seconds remaining? Hopefully that was a bad decision by Prescott, otherwise whoever called that play should be immediately fired.

[Reds Freak]

There was just a plethora of mistakes by both teams in that game. Entertaining but incredibly stupid and sloppy play.

Can Pitt stay in this tonight? I actually think if they pull it off, they'll beat Tennessee again next week.

[The Operator]

3 & outs by each team to start the KC-Pitt game.


KC better be careful… don’t let the score be close enough that the officials can help out with any “Big Ben Magic” late in the game.

[RedsBaron]

That was a “Ghost of Bengals Past” type ending in the Dallas game.

Run the ball to the middle of the field with no timeouts and seconds remaining? Hopefully that was a bad decision by Prescott, otherwise whoever called that play should be immediately fired.

The Cowboys had, what 14 seconds left and time to probably try at least two "Hail Mary" passes into the end zone; instead Prescott runs the ball? Crazy.
I don't like Dallas because of Jerry Jones, but I don't like the 49ers because of two Super Bowl wins over the Bengals.

[KoryMac5]

Ben can’t throw the ball down field makes KCs job a lot easier.

[The Operator]

Steelers up 7-0


The narrative is in play….

[WVRed]

Steelers up 7-0


The narrative is in play….

7-7 now and KC gets the ball back.

Also get the ball to start the second half.

[Reds Freak]

Ben can’t throw the ball down field makes KCs job a lot easier.

I'm not sure why they're not pounding Harris.

[The Operator]

7-7 now and KC gets the ball back.

Also get the ball to start the second half.

They better start putting it away. Don’t leave any room for “magic” to happen.

[RedTeamGo!]

I get it, it’s Roethlisberger’s last hoorah. However, the man can’t throw the ball downfield. This game is winnable, they should be playing their backup.

[Hillsdale87]

The Steelers are one of the worst teams in the NFL. Tomlin dragging this team to the playoffs, and somehow beating multiple good teams, is incredible.


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[Boston Red]

Leaving Kelce that open in that situation is embarrassing.

[dubc47834]

Stephen A. Smith gonna be hilarious tomorrow after the Cowboy loss...lol

[The Operator]

And we’ve officially got a butt whipping.

35-7 Chiefs

[Roy Tucker]

42-14 KC over the Steelers. Steelers still have their nasty edge but the KC offense is making Pittsburgh look silly.

[The Operator]

Some barf worthy commentary from Michaels & Collinsworth hoping the KC fans give Big Ben an ovation at the end and talking about how he “embodies the spirit of Pittsburgh”.

Major barf. The man would be in jail if the #metoo movement happened a decade earlier.

[Todd Gack]

Some barf worthy commentary from Michaels & Collinsworth hoping the KC fans give Big Ben an ovation at the end and talking about how he “embodies the spirit of Pittsburgh”.

Major barf. The man would be in jail if the #metoo movement happened a decade earlier.

Have you forgotten who our current running back is?

If you want to hate Ben because he's a Steeler, that's fine. But the people that rag on him about that stuff ignore that we continue to support someone who knocked out a woman and made several homophobic comments.

[The Operator]

Have you forgotten who our current running back is?

If you want to hate Ben because he's a Steeler, that's fine. But the people that rag on him about that stuff ignore that we continue to support someone who knocked out a women and made several homophobic comments.

Nope. I’m aware that Mixon is a scum bag and I wasn’t happy when they drafted him, either.

I could point you to multiple posts on my Facebook saying as much.


Call me back though when TV announcers are blathering on and on about what a fantastic person he is and how he embodied the city of Cincinnati and yada yada yada.

[SteelSD]

Well, that went as expected. Good luck to the Bengals over the rest of the playoffs. And I hope, sincerely, that Joe Burrow can give Bengals fans the kind of memories Ben Roethisburger's Steelers have given me over his career.

[Stray]

Good riddance to Big Ben. Nothing against the guy, just spent most of my life watching his Steelers beat up on us. In his prime he was maddening with the way he'd shake off 300 pound d-lineman and still complete passes.

[Kingspoint]

Have you forgotten who our current running back is?

If you want to hate Ben because he's a Steeler, that's fine. But the people that rag on him about that stuff ignore that we continue to support someone who knocked out a woman and made several homophobic comments.

Repeat offender, much older with his incidences, not treated like a GOD, completely different.

[Stray]

Watching the Cowboys today really highlighted how well coached Taylor's Bengals are. So disciplined, we don't beat ourselves with stupid penalties.

[dubc47834]

Repeat offender, much older with his incidences, not treated like a GOD, completely different.

Not different at all. With that type of offence you do it once you're a dirt bag. It's very hypocritical to hate Big Ben and not your own guy.

[The Operator]

Not different at all. With that type of offence you do it once you're a dirt bag. It's very hypocritical to hate Big Ben and not your own guy.

I know you’re talking to Kingspoint here but I will refer you to my earlier comments about Mixon. Not a fan.


That said, though… it absolutely is different. Big Ben absolutely HAS been treated like a god for almost 20 years. The man was accused of raping a girl and the cops showed up and POSED FOR A SELFIE with him.

https://cbsnews3.cbsistatic.com/hub/i/r/2010/04/12/6a947e49-a642-11e2-a3f0-029118418759/thumbnail/640x481/0f31ea9701d5ba96d0a3afb241dc6441/copandhim_370x278.JPG


The poor girl probably knew she had no chance when the cops showed up and wanted to take fanboy pictures with the guy who did it. She started receiving death threats once the media got a hold of the story. What a wonderful world we live(d) in.


I’ll say it again… if #metoo happens a decade earlier, Big Ben probably goes to jail and at the very least his career would have been in major peril. See: Watson, Deshaun.

[dubc47834]

I know you’re talking to Kingspoint here but I will refer you to my earlier comments about Mixon. Not a fan.


That said, though… it absolutely is different. Big Ben absolutely HAS been treated like a god for almost 20 years. The man was accused of raping a girl and the cops showed up and POSED FOR A SELFIE with him.

https://cbsnews3.cbsistatic.com/hub/i/r/2010/04/12/6a947e49-a642-11e2-a3f0-029118418759/thumbnail/640x481/0f31ea9701d5ba96d0a3afb241dc6441/copandhim_370x278.JPG


The poor girl probably knew she had no chance when the cops showed up and wanted to take fanboy pictures with the guy who did it. She started receiving death threats once the media got a hold of the story. What a wonderful world we live(d) in.


I’ll say it again… if #metoo happens a decade earlier, Big Ben probably goes to jail and at the very least his career would have been in major peril. See: Watson, DeSean.

I agree, Big Ben has been treated like a God. When I say this, I'm not saying it's right, just the way that I think it is. I think Ben is treated different because he is a QB and he plays for the Steelers, and I'm sure there are some racial things in there, but this isn't the politics side, so I'll just leave it at that.

[WVRed]

I know you’re talking to Kingspoint here but I will refer you to my earlier comments about Mixon. Not a fan.


That said, though… it absolutely is different. Big Ben absolutely HAS been treated like a god for almost 20 years. The man was accused of raping a girl and the cops showed up and POSED FOR A SELFIE with him.

https://cbsnews3.cbsistatic.com/hub/i/r/2010/04/12/6a947e49-a642-11e2-a3f0-029118418759/thumbnail/640x481/0f31ea9701d5ba96d0a3afb241dc6441/copandhim_370x278.JPG


The poor girl probably knew she had no chance when the cops showed up and wanted to take fanboy pictures with the guy who did it. She started receiving death threats once the media got a hold of the story. What a wonderful world we live(d) in.


I’ll say it again… if #metoo happens a decade earlier, Big Ben probably goes to jail and at the very least his career would have been in major peril. See: Watson, Deshaun.

It would be perfect irony if DeShaun Watson replaced Roethlisberger in Pittsburgh.

Don’t see it happening though.

BTW, the Mixon pick was absolutely crucified by the media when the Bengals made it. He drew comparisons to LeVeon Bell when he was in his prime in Pittsburgh but because of what happened he received a 3rd to 4th round grade. I remember the draft being in Philly that year and the fans booing the pick.

[KoryMac5]

SF is in a nice spot…you have Lance waiting in the wings while you dangle Jimmy G for a 1st round pick and more.

[The Operator]

SF is in a nice spot…you have Lance waiting in the wings while you dangle Jimmy G for a 1st round pick and more.

What is the ceiling with Lance?

Depending on how far the ‘9ers go this year they could be in for a fan revolt if they trade Jimmy G and Lance isn’t everything he was advertised to be. It’s an interesting spot to be in.

[KoryMac5]

What is the ceiling with Lance?

Depending on how far the ‘9ers go this year they could be in for a fan revolt if they trade Jimmy G and Lance isn’t everything he was advertised to be. It’s an interesting spot to be in.

Lance might still be a little raw... but they made him a top 3 pick for a reason, plus they gave up 2 1st round picks to move up to get him. They have Jimmy under contract next season at 24 mil. So they could go with both guys again next season however they may try and recoup what they lost getting Lance.

[Roy Tucker]

Haha. Another ref mistake on an AJ Green catch.

Now LA challenge.

[Roy Tucker]

Haha. Another ref mistake on an AJ Green catch.

Now LA challenge.

And it rightfully gets reversed. No catch.

[UKFlounder]

Wow @ Kyler Murray. Just awful

[The Operator]

We’ve got another butt whipping underway in this Rams-Cardinals game.

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Wow @ Kyler Murray. Just awful

He would have been better off taking the safety, lol.

Awful play.

[Roy Tucker]

Murray does look completely out of whack. Rams are good, but the Cardinals look totally lost.

[The Operator]

Murray does look completely out of whack. Rams are good, but the Cardinals look totally lost.

Reminds me of 2009, 2011, 2012, 2013 or 2014 Bengals.

2015 should have been a win, but we all know how that went.

[Roy Tucker]

I know it doesn’t matter, but Donald ought to get tossed for all that crap.

[The Operator]

I know it was successful and maybe I’m missing something.


But what was the logic in going for 2 on your first TD to make it 28-8 instead of 28-7? Even if they got 2 more TD’s and converted 2 pointers both times, they’re still down 28-24 and need another TD because a field goal won’t get them there.

Is there something I’m not thinking of?

[757690]

I know it was successful and maybe I’m missing something.


But what was the logic in going for 2 on your first TD to make it 28-8 instead of 28-7? Even if they got 2 more TD’s and converted 2 pointers both times, they’re still down 28-24 and need another TD because a field goal won’t get them there.

Is there something I’m not thinking of?

I know nothing about the analytics of this situation, but I would assume that the Rams are going keep scoring points, so I’m chasing as many points of my own as possible.

[Todd Gack]

I know it was successful and maybe I’m missing something.


But what was the logic in going for 2 on your first TD to make it 28-8 instead of 28-7? Even if they got 2 more TD’s and converted 2 pointers both times, they’re still down 28-24 and need another TD because a field goal won’t get them there.

Is there something I’m not thinking of?

Only thing I can think of is that if LAR got a FG, they'd only need 4 scores instead of 5.

[Roy Tucker]

I know it was successful and maybe I’m missing something.


But what was the logic in going for 2 on your first TD to make it 28-8 instead of 28-7? Even if they got 2 more TD’s and converted 2 pointers both times, they’re still down 28-24 and need another TD because a field goal won’t get them there.

Is there something I’m not thinking of?

This chart says go for 2 if the deficit is 16 or more. Not sure of the logic but I guess there is a supercomputer somewhere that does know.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-3_MLvZnrjaw/VV0z3sVJ99I/AAAAAAAABt4/Sp68bqgC9kg/s1600/PAT%2Bor%2BGo%2Bfor%2B2%2BChart.jpg

[The Operator]

Scary head injury for Cardinals’ Budda Baker.

Rams player literally taunted him while laying motionless on the field and no flag. Yet Vonn Bell got flagged for absolutely nothing in the Bengals-SF game on a drive that had major implications on the final outcome.

[The Operator]

LOL the TV crew just gave a shout out to Andy Dalton while talking about Stafford.


“That’s a list you don’t wanna be on”.

[Roy Tucker]

That SoFi stadium is crazy. Something from the Jetsons.

[The Operator]

That SoFi stadium is crazy. Something from the Jetsons.

It’s definitely something. I always find it odd when 2 teams from the same league share a stadium.


Wikipedia says it’s expandable from 70K to 100K for a Super Bowl? They must have a ton of little spots to squeeze seats into. Lol

[757690]

SoFi Stadium is getting great reviews here in LA, except for the food which is getting destroyed by everyone on social media. Very few options and they say barely as good as an AM/PM. The pics have been compared to the Fyre Festival food.

[KoryMac5]

Murray isn't the same without Hopkins...

Might be one year left in the tank for AJ Green.

[Sea Ray]

Kliff Kingsbury's teams seem to be developing a pattern of fading late in the year. They've got a problem to address

[Hillsdale87]

Kliff Kingsbury's teams seem to be developing a pattern of fading late in the year. They've got a problem to address

Kliff and Kyler both. Fair to wonder if Kyler's small frame and play style can't hold up over a full season


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[Chip R]

Have you forgotten who our current running back is?

If you want to hate Ben because he's a Steeler, that's fine. But the people that rag on him about that stuff ignore that we continue to support someone who knocked out a woman and made several homophobic comments.

Reading some quotes from him after the game it sounded like it wasn't his idea to retire.

[WVRed]

Reading some quotes from him after the game it sounded like it wasn't his idea to retire.

Probably wasn’t.

At least the Steelers let him go out as the unquestioned starter unlike Eli Manning. I don’t know if Mason Rudolph or Dwayne Haskins would have done much better than Ben at times this season but they definitely couldn’t have done worse.

[dubc47834]

Scary head injury for Cardinals’ Budda Baker.

Rams player literally taunted him while laying motionless on the field and no flag. Yet Vonn Bell got flagged for absolutely nothing in the Bengals-SF game on a drive that had major implications on the final outcome.

I'm not a fan of taunting, but the play had just ended and he had no clue what had just happened. You could see Akers was devastated afterwards, he even went over and said something to him once Baker got put on the stretcher.

[The Operator]

I'm not a fan of taunting, but the play had just ended and he had no clue what had just happened. You could see Akers was devastated afterwards, he even went over and said something to him once Baker got put on the stretcher.

Oh I have no doubt he eventually felt bad. But injury notwithstanding, he gestured toward a player laying on the ground.

If Vonn Bell can get flagged for pointing at a sideline during a drive that impacted a game outcome, that should have been called too. That’s really what I’m getting at - the NFL is just so inconsistent with things like that.

[goreds2]

Saturday, Jan 22, 2022

AFC Divisional Round
Cincinnati Bengals Cincinnati
Tennessee Titans Tennessee


4:30pm ET
CBS / Paramount+

_________________

NFC Divisional Round
San Francisco 49ers San Francisco
Green Bay Packers Green Bay


8:15pm ET
FOX
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Sunday, Jan 23, 2022

NFC Divisional Round
Los Angeles Rams LA Rams
Tampa Bay Buccaneers Tampa Bay


3:00pm ET
NBC / Peacock
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AFC Divisional Round
Buffalo Bills Buffalo
Kansas City Chiefs Kansas City


6:30pm ET
CBS / Paramount+

https://fbschedules.com/nfl-playoff-schedule/

[WrongVerb]

Willie Gay Chiefs Linebacker Arrested ... After Allegedly Breaking Vacuum In Argument With Woman (https://www.tmz.com/2022/01/20/chiefs-lb-willie-gay-arrested-four-days-before-playoff-game/?adid=social-twa)




Chiefs linebacker Willie Gay -- who's started 19 games for the team the past two seasons -- was arrested Wednesday night ... just four days before Kansas City's playoff game against Buffalo.

Jail records show the 23-year-old was arrested by the Overland Park Police Department in Kansas at 10:30 p.m. He was booked on a charge of criminal damage roughly two hours later.

According to jail records, Gay is still in custody. He has a court date scheduled for later Thursday afternoon.

[Chip R]

Willie Gay Chiefs Linebacker Arrested ... After Allegedly Breaking Vacuum In Argument With Woman (https://www.tmz.com/2022/01/20/chiefs-lb-willie-gay-arrested-four-days-before-playoff-game/?adid=social-twa)

That vacuum was dressed like it wanted it.

[Sea Ray]

Apparently I'm not the only guy wondering what happened to all these covid cases once the post season hit.

https://www.foxnews.com/sports/nfl-covid-just-in-time-playoffs

To sum it up, they quit testing pretty much everyone. They only tested you if you have symptoms and pretty much no one will report symptoms in fear of missing a post season game

I bet teams like the Browns wish this sort of system was instituted during the season

[Bob Sheed]

Don't ask, don't tell.

[The Operator]

Pretty dumb play call by Kyle Shanahan on 4th down in the red zone.


Wow.

[The Operator]

WOW blocked punt TD to tie the game against The Packers.

[Todd Gack]

Apparently I'm not the only guy wondering what happened to all these covid cases once the post season hit.

https://www.foxnews.com/sports/nfl-covid-just-in-time-playoffs

To sum it up, they quit testing pretty much everyone. They only tested you if you have symptoms and pretty much no one will report symptoms in fear of missing a post season game

I bet teams like the Browns wish this sort of system was instituted during the season

“COVID is a really serious disease until there’s money involved.”

[kaldaniels]

Whoa. Red alert for the Lambeau crowd.

[The Operator]

I’d take 2nd & 10 over 1st & 15 against Rodgers.


Interesting call.

[KoryMac5]

Momentum firmly with SF

[kaldaniels]

Momentum firmly with SF

They’ve got a chance to absolutely steal this game.

[Roy Tucker]

Garafalo is finding his touch late here.or whatever the hell the SF QB’s name is.

[The Operator]

Deebo Samuel is something else.

Wow.

[The Operator]

Awfully conservative play calling considering the weather conditions here.


I’d wanna be closer than that.

[The Operator]

49ers steal one and take down Rodgers.


Wow.

[KoryMac5]

2 FG at the buzzer eliminates the 1 seed…wow. Could be Rodgers last game in a packer uniform.

[kaldaniels]

They’ve got a chance to absolutely steal this game.

Grand theft.

[RedTeamGo!]

Good, **** Rodgers

[The Operator]

Both #1 seeds just got eliminated back to back.


What a crazy day.

[The Operator]

Good, **** Rodgers

Yea, regardless of how you feel about covid, Rodgers is just a jerk and always has been.

[Todd Gack]

Good, **** Rodgers

Why?

[goreds2]

2 FG at the buzzer eliminates the 1 seed…wow. Could be Rodgers last game in a packer uniform.

http://watchfootballfree.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/Pittsburgh-Steelers-Rumors-Draft-Kenny-Pickett-in-NFL-Draft-Aaron.jpg

[RedTeamGo!]

Why?

I’ve never liked him, seems like an arrogant dbag. I thought it was really lame how he handled last offseason. His whole career, just arrogant dbag.

[Todd Gack]

I’ve never liked him, seems like an arrogant ******.

Our kicker sounded pretty arrogant tonight.

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I’ve never liked him, seems like an arrogant dbag. I thought it was really lame how he handled last offseason. His whole career, just arrogant dbag.

Isn’t it amazing how there’s been 0 COVID cases these last few weeks?

[RedTeamGo!]

Our kicker sounded pretty arrogant tonight.

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Isn’t it amazing how there’s been 0 COVID cases these last few weeks?

COVID? I am referring to how during the draft he put out that he was done in GB and the months of drama afterward. I didn’t say a thing about COVID. I know you want me to say I want him canceled or something because of his stance on the vaccine or whatever, but it’s not why I don’t like him.

[Todd Gack]

COVID? I am referring to how during the draft he put out that he was done in GB and the months of drama afterward. I didn’t say a thing about COVID. I know you want me to say I want him canceled or something because of his stance on the vaccine or whatever, but it’s not why I don’t like him.

I mean, he’s a HOF QB who has rarely been helped in the draft aside from drafting a future QB. Can’t imagine why he’d be unhappy.

[757690]

Rams fans here might be the most excited about the 49er’s win. They still have to get through the Bucs and Brady, but knowing they won’t have to face the Packers gives them extra incentive.

[Betterread]

First thing that came to mind for Rodgers and the Pukers - Discount double choke.

[oregonred]

Rams beat Tampa and they could host back to back Championship Games for the NFC and Super Bowl.

[Tony Cloninger]

For all his greatness. 1SB appearance is pretty bad considering how much crap Manning got for not getting there.

[RedTeamGo!]

I mean, he’s a HOF QB who has rarely been helped in the draft aside from drafting a future QB. Can’t imagine why he’d be unhappy.

This is so overplayed. They have always given him a good OL, good RB, and good WRs. If anything, for many years they ignored the defense too much.

He’s worshipped in GB. Well, was, I think his act is probably pretty tired at this point. Brett Favre is a HoF QB as well and a dbag. It’s not like HoFers can’t be dbags.

[KoryMac5]

Our kicker sounded pretty arrogant tonight.

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Isn’t it amazing how there’s been 0 COVID cases these last few weeks?

The Bengals kicker sounded confident...however it was not like he announced to the world he was going to make it, he dropped the line to the back up QB. Rodgers just comes across to me as more and more cranky as he has gotten older.. I would imagine GB could get a pretty good haul for him if they feel Love is ready. Though Love looks terrible right now...

[Redhook]

From 2012 to 2021, the Packers drafted zero offensive players in the first round that could help Rodgers (Love not included since he doesn’t play). I’m not trying to make excuses for him, but I don’t think the Packers gave him enough offensive weapons over the past decade. The first round draft picks is where you get the difference makers.

Last night’s loss was on their teams. It was one of the worst performances I’ve ever seen in the playoffs. A blocked FG, a blocked punt for a TD and only 10 on the field on the last play (not that that would help much, but so incompetent). Just brutal and very tough way to lose.

And last, Rodgers seems like a very difficult and unlikable person to be around.

[Betterread]

I am no Rogers fan and he is definitely worthy of ridicule, but when you talk about Dbgs, Cincinnati’s own Chris Collins worth is the clearest example ever. At least Rogers is excellent at his job. Collinsworth is a hack, who thinks he is an expert on football, especially the wide receiver position.

[kaldaniels]

@drunkspecialist


30 years of favre and rodgers and only 2 chips

Man, think about that…

[jwdoc77]

Rams fans here might be the most excited about the 49er’s win. They still have to get through the Bucs and Brady, but knowing they won’t have to face the Packers gives them extra incentive.

Don’t the niners kind of own the Rams though? I’d be nervous about that one.


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[WrongVerb]

This is incredible...

Paul Brown --> Bill Walsh --> George Siefert --> Mike Shanahan --> Kyle Shanahan (49ers), Matt Lafleur (Packers), Sean McVey (Rams) --> Zac Taylor

[WrongVerb]

https://twitter.com/JWrightBDR/status/1485341395875287040?t=aSJbftX9hj1yy6IiCLGgLA&s=19

:laugh::laugh::laugh:

[kaldaniels]

Nm

[KoryMac5]

Tampa Bay doing there best to send TB 12 into retirement.

[Roy Tucker]

I’d say snarky things about Brady with the Rams being up 20-3 (and looking like they may score again just before the half) but Brady has a way of turning things around. We’ll see…

[Todd Gack]

One of the biggest reasons I love Belichick is because he would force teams to earn everything and use all his resources at his disposal. I'm surprised McVay didn't call his last TO at the end of hte half and force TB to run at least one more play. Not sure they would've had room to kneel is again.

[Sea Ray]

One of the biggest reasons I love Belichick is because he would force teams to earn everything and use all his resources at his disposal. I'm surprised McVay didn't call his last TO at the end of hte half and force TB to run at least one more play. Not sure they would've had room to kneel is again.

I wondered the same thing

Does TB want this to be his last game?

[WVRed]

From 2012 to 2021, the Packers drafted zero offensive players in the first round that could help Rodgers (Love not included since he doesn’t play). I’m not trying to make excuses for him, but I don’t think the Packers gave him enough offensive weapons over the past decade. The first round draft picks is where you get the difference makers.

Last night’s loss was on their teams. It was one of the worst performances I’ve ever seen in the playoffs. A blocked FG, a blocked punt for a TD and only 10 on the field on the last play (not that that would help much, but so incompetent). Just brutal and very tough way to lose.

And last, Rodgers seems like a very difficult and unlikable person to be around.

By comparison, the Steelers drafted two first round offensive players (DeCastro and Najee Harris) in that exact same time frame.

It’s not like Rodgers hasn’t been hurting for weapons though. Jordy Nelson, Randall Cobb, and Davantae Adams were all drafted in the second round.

Aaron Rodgers is a lot like LeBron in the sense that when he wins he does it all by himself and when he loses it’s because he doesn’t get the help that he needs.

[kaldaniels]

Good Lord the Bucs have the momentum now…

[The Operator]

What on earth is going on in Tampa.


Wow.

[Roy Tucker]

Crazy 2 plays. Miller strip sacks Brady but then the Rams center snaps it when Stafford isn’t watching and turns it back over to Tampa.

[The Operator]

I thought that referee was about to get jumped by a couple Bucs players as he explained why the ball still turns over on downs.


Yikes.

[KoryMac5]

Rams are a different team with a healthy Miller and Akers.

[kaldaniels]

Short on a 47 yard field goal?

[Roy Tucker]

Not a well-played game.

[The Operator]

Wow.

27-20 after being 27-3.

[The Operator]

Oh my god the Bucs have the ball again


Meltdown of the century underway

[Todd Gack]

OMG!

[Roy Tucker]

Cam Akers with a Jeremy Hill fumble.

[Todd Gack]

Cam Akers with a Jeremy Hill fumble.

He's had two of them. First one was just as bad. Just horrible.

[Todd Gack]

Will Tampa go for 2?

[The Operator]

OMG this game is insane


Biggest meltdown ever

[Todd Gack]

I feel like they have to go for 2. The Rams are the better team today.

[Reds Freak]

What an embarrassing meltdown for the Rams. Tom Brady will get showered with praise but this was a complete gift.

[Roy Tucker]

I think I’m going to barf. 27-27 and St. Tom has a chance.

[The Operator]

Imagine being a Rams fan right now.

As a Bengals fan who has witnessed many a playoff meltdown, I feel for them. This, though? This makes the 2015 “Meltdown at Paul Brown” seem like nothing.

[The Operator]

And now The Rams have a shot to still win it with a field goal.


Wow.

[Roy Tucker]

Wow. Rams hit 2 big passes and win on a FG.

[The Operator]

All 3 playoff games have been decided by game ending field goals.

[UKFlounder]

What a game!

[757690]

Rams did not deserve to win this game. But I’m glad they did.

[Wonderful Monds]

Man I sure am glad the Bengals won’t have to face Tom Brady in a potential you know what scenario

[Roy Tucker]

Rams and Bucs traded opportunities to blow the game.

Stafford with 2 big throws after almost fumbling.

[RichRed]

All 3 playoff games have been decided by game ending field goals.

KC and Buffalo have a lot to live up to!

[kaldaniels]

Rams and Bucs traded opportunities to blow the game.

Stafford with 2 big throws after almost fumbling.

Weird that Al and Cris didn’t emphasize that his knee was down on that ”fumble.”

[kaldaniels]

I think the real Superbowl is about to start.

Apologies Bengals fans.

[WVRed]

I think the real Superbowl is about to start.

Apologies Bengals fans.

Only if that team wins the Super Bowl.

[membengal]

I think the real Superbowl is about to start.

Apologies Bengals fans.

you know the Bengals did just beat the chiefs a few weeks back, right? If it's the chiefs, you have to give cincy at least a puncher's chance. The bills look terrifying for anyone at this point.

[kaldaniels]

you know the Bengals did just beat the chiefs a few weeks back, right? If it's the chiefs, you have to give cincy at least a puncher's chance. The bills look terrifying for anyone at this point.

Respectfully I think these 2 teams are the 2 to beat. It's just my opinion and I stated so.

Of course the Bengals just beat the Chiefs a few weeks ago. But that doesn't mean I think they win a playoff game at Arrowhead.

[Roy Tucker]

I don’t think it’s an incorrect thing to say the winner of this game is the Super Bowl favorite.

The Rams-49’ers is a pretty ugly game. Neither team looked good in their wins. And the Bengals haven’t really earned respect yet.

[WrongVerb]

All 3 playoff games have been decided by game ending field goals.

The road team won all three, too.

[membengal]

Respectfully I think these 2 teams are the 2 to beat. It's just my opinion and I stated so.

Of course the Bengals just beat the Chiefs a few weeks ago. But that doesn't mean I think they win a playoff game at Arrowhead.

you didn't say they were the two teams to beat. I would not disagree with that. But what you wrote made it sound like the Bengals would have no chance. I disagree, at least when it comes to the Chiefs. They would have a chance. not so sure against the Bills. The bills look like several levels up.

[Tony Cloninger]

The Bengals have earned a bunch of respect this year and after this recent win. It does not mean they should be favored to beat either of these teams though at this point on the road.

I think it’s the Bulls playing the Rams.

[membengal]

I don’t think it’s an incorrect thing to say the winner of this game is the Super Bowl favorite.

The Rams-49’ers is a pretty ugly game. Neither team looked good in their wins. And the Bengals haven’t really earned respect yet.

it's not about being a favorite. It looked like kal was saying bengals would have no chance. I disagree with that. Of course the winner of this game is the favorite going into next week.

[membengal]

the bengals have earned a bunch of respect this year and after this recent win. It does not mean they should be favored to beat either of these teams though at this point on the road.

I think it’s the bulls playing the rams.

of course the winner of this game will be favored over cincinnati. They should be. But that doesn't make this the super bowl. The bengals would have a puncher's chance against at least kc as we just saw them beat kc...

[Roy Tucker]

The Bills have on their Penn State road uniforms.

And I agree with the previous posts. The winner of this game is the favorite to win it all, but I’d give the Bengals a good shot at making the big game.

[WVRed]

Here’s where I’m at:

Burrow has seen KC. He’s seen their defense and shredded it.

The Chiefs will be out for revenge. Andy Reid wasn’t happy with how that game ended and the game is in Arrowhead.

Burrow however has not seen Buffalo. It’s going to be the same story as yesterday in which they will live in the backfield but they also have the top ranked pass defense.

The difference though is Josh Allen. Ryan Tannehill was who we thought he was, Andy Dalton 2.0. It’s basically the same matchup as yesterday but with a better QB.

[kaldaniels]

I think the winner of this game beats Cincy next weekend and goes on to win the Superbowl.

Never implied that the Bengals don't have a chance, of course they do. But that's what I think will happen.

Saying "I think" and "...has no chance of happening" are two different animals.

[KoryMac5]

KC is a much different team at home Bills need to keep it close and weather the storm.

[membengal]

I think the real Superbowl is about to start.

Apologies Bengals fans.

you said this. What you implied was what I responded to . Respectfully.

[kaldaniels]

The Bills have on their Penn State road uniforms.

And I agree with the previous posts. The winner of this game is the favorite to win it all, but I’d give the Bengals a good shot at making the big game.

If the Bengals win next weekend, I think they win it all.

Disclaimer - I’m not saying the NFC doesn’t have a chance vs Cincinnati.

[membengal]

If the Bengals win next weekend, I think they win it all.

Disclaimer - I’m not saying the NFC doesn’t have a chance vs Cincinnati.

I hate cincy's chances against the Rams. They would have a shot against the 49ers. I loathe their chances against Buffalo. A sliver of daylight against the Chiefs but the rematch in KC isn't great. But with decent weather Burrow could sling it and look for a miracle turnover etc to steal it.

[KoryMac5]

Weather the storm and keep it close Buffalo…Allen is so tough to defend. I always wondered how close Cleveland was to selecting him over Mayfield.

[Tony Cloninger]

of course the winner of this game will be favored over cincinnati. They should be. But that doesn't make this the super bowl. The bengals would have a puncher's chance against at least kc as we just saw them beat kc...

Yes of course they have a chance. The game is played in the field and they have a chance. Just don’t get Burrow maimed.

Yes the BS of this is the real SB or the real WS during the Championship series is lazy reporting and storyline.

[Tony Cloninger]

Also the Bengals defense is being overlooked. They are stepping up.

[RedTeamGo!]

Weather the storm and keep it close Buffalo…Allen is so tough to defend. I always wondered how close Cleveland was to selecting him over Mayfield.

I think the scouts and coaches wanted Allen. Mayfield was the GM’s pick, John Dorsey. After the draft it came out that he had made up his mind months before the draft. He said Mayfield was a “winner.” Good riddance to that terrible GM. The new GM is much better.

[kaldaniels]

I hate cincy's chances against the Rams. They would have a shot against the 49ers. I loathe their chances against Buffalo. A sliver of daylight against the Chiefs but the rematch in KC isn't great. But with decent weather Burrow could sling it and look for a miracle turnover etc to steal it.

There’s a certain “it” you need in the postseason. Maybe the Rams d-line (which seems to be running on all cylinders) becomes that “it.” And given the Bengals struggles on the line that could very well be the difference maker.

But man the Rams were sloppy today and I don’t know if they are “stable” enough to win the next 2 huge games.

[The Operator]

Well that was quite the answer there from Buffalo.

[KoryMac5]

Don’t love that series by Buffalo…they have forgotten Allen can run.

[The Operator]

Bills facing 4th & 13.


Game is pretty well over if they can’t convert.

[KoryMac5]

Buffalo needs a miracle here…will prayers be answered in Western NY.

[The Operator]

Fan runs on the field, gets blasted by Diggs. lol

[KoryMac5]

OMG

[The Operator]

OH MY GOD

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You go for 2 here right?

[The Operator]

Jeebus, looks blown up and they convert the 2 pointer


29-26 Bills

[KoryMac5]

What a game…what a weekend

[CaiGuy]

A lot of good games this weekend.

[kaldaniels]

What a drive.

Time consuming.

[redhawkfish]

What a game…what a weekend

As bad as 3 of 4 games were last weekend, this weekend has been amazing!

[KoryMac5]

Wow miracle in KC

[The Operator]

Wow wow wow wow


This game

[Todd Gack]

How is that not called taunting?Isn't that a POE this year?