2022's QB Carousel

[JaxRed]

The carousel spins another year. After a crazy 2021 off-season for QB's, 2022 seems to be only a slightly slower carousel ride. Some of the teams and QBs are holdovers from 2021. Lurking in the background are the facts that 2022 seems to be a weak year for QBs in the draft but that 2023 would seem to have two potential superstars in CJ Stroud and Bryce Young.

Aaron Rodgers and Green Bay - Aaron Rodgers toyed with leaving the Packers in the summer before finally reporting. He leads the Packers to the #1 seed and a probable MVP award, and then fails again in the playoffs. Once again, it seems like Rodgers might be going elsewhere. He said he will make his decision quickly this time. And that he doesn't want to be part of a rebuild. And the Packers are in cap hell. Next to last in cap space, needing to clear 38 million just to be legal. And Rodgers is the biggest chunk of that, with a 46 million dollar cap hit for 2022.

Trading Rodgers clears almost 20 million for 2022. (but leaves a 26 million dead cap hit). If a team can afford Rodgers, it would seem likely to hand Green Bay a couple of #1's at least. Denver, the team most often mentioned has lots of cap space (and a QB problem).

Packers used a #1 pick in 2020 for Jordan Love. Love didn't play a snap in 2020, got some time this year and was mediocre at best. He's still just barely 23. Seemingly he'd get a shot if Packers trade Rodgers.

Houston and Deshaun Watson - Watson started out 2021 trying to get out of Houston, and ended 2021 trying to stay out of jail. In a bizarre dance between Houston, Watson and the NFL, Watson was never suspended, he never played, and yet Houston never forced his hand and paid him $10 million to watch games from the sideline.

Watson still wants out. He still has 22 civil suits against him, and possible criminal proceedings. One of his accusers released the settlement info and it was for $100k. If he could swing that, it would only be 2.2 million. He signed a guaranteed $110 million 4 year deal. There would be no way I settled for less than $500K.

Watson is due $35 million this year. No way Houston can do the same dance. Miami was rumored to be the main suitor, but that was before Brian Flores (supposedly his main advocate) was canned.

Houston drafted Davis Mills in the 3rd round and was playing pretty well by the end of the year. Certainly well enough that it would seem he would be their main guy for 2022. Backup Tyrod Taylor is a Free Agent, as is 3rd stringer Jeff Driskell.

Houston has the 3rd pick. If they get a haul for Watson in addition, things could be looking up for Texans.

Pittsburgh and Ben Roethlisberger - Stop the Merry-Go-Round, it appears Big Ben wants off. All signs point to Ben retiring. Behind Ben there's the ever so mediocre Mason Rudolph, and Dwayne Haskins who flamed out in Washington and didn't play a down in 2021. Pittsburgh is in pretty decent shape cap wise. Ben leaves only a $10 million cap hit. Do Steelers let Rudolph guide their team, or take a chance with Haskins, or go out and get someone? I think the latter.

Seattle and Russell Wilson - Wilson and his agent made noise about wanting to play elsewhere and released a list of 4 teams he would accept a trade to. (Cowboys, Saints, Raiders, Bears.) Cowboys are 100% set with Dak, and Bears just drafted Fields. Raiders and Saints are under new management.

But the Wilson rumors are starting to fly again. This time he is on a sub-500 team in a division that is stacked.

Tom Brady and The Bucs - Tom had said previously that he wanted to play until at least 45 (he's 44) but after his playoff loss, he's taking time to decide about his future and indicates that his wife/family's desires may override his own. I think it's about 50/50 that he calls it quits.


Run thru divisions -

AFC East
Buffalo - 100% set with Allen - Does back up Trubisky interest anyone?
Patriots - Would appear to be set with Mac Jones.
Dolphins - Word is they'll stick with Tua for at least another year. Would that change if Watson is available? Brisset is backup.
Jets - Drafted Zach Wilson #2. Was significantly better after returning from injury (TD/Int ration was 4/9 before, 5/2 after). They'll roll with him for a couple years. Terrible backups in Flacco/White.

AFC South
Titans - Some question about whether Tannehill is too much of a game manager to take them to the promised land. I'd be surprised if they made a move. Logan Woodside backup.
Colts - Traded for Wentz (1st round pick). Statistically he had a good season, but faltered at the end and Colts missed playoffs. Owner Irsay hinted at changes. Wentz can be dumped with a 15 million cap hit and traded (if you can find a taker) with no cap hit. Colts have lots of cap space, and could be a landing spot for someone like Wilson/Rodgers
Jags - Drafted Trevor Lawrence #1 overall. Had a shaky season on dismal team with Urban Meyer debacle. Had best game of season in final game. No chance of a change. Good backup in CJ Beathard.
Texans - Has the whole Deshaun Watson deal. Will probably stick with Mills, but a new coach may factor into things.

AFC North
Bengals - 100% set with Burrow
Ravens - 100% set, but Jackson not quite as elite as before.
Steelers - 100% not set - Roethlisberger situation.
Browns - Supposedly running with Mayfield at least one more year, but Browns might move on in 2023.

AFC West
Chiefs - 100% set
Chargers - 100% set
Raiders - Probably not making any moves. Gruden who was always a little ambivalent towards Carr is gone, as is the GM. Who knows what new management might do?
Broncos - Just a mess at QB. Bridgewater is a Free Agent who will probably have to settle for being a bridge QB somewhere. Lock is a lock to be NOT the guy. Lot of rumors that maybe Rodgers would be in play here.


NFC East -
Dallas - 100% set
Philly - Philly claims that they are rolling with Hurts for 2022. Minshew who had better stats in 2 games is the backup.
Washington - Another team in search of a QB. Taylor Heinecke is the "starter", Ryan Fitzgerald is a Free Agent. They would seem to be a team after a QB.
Giants - Daniel Jones who ended the year with a serious neck injury is the presumed starter for 2022, but would seem to be on very shaky ground even if healthy. Giants are rumored as potential landing spots for guys like Wilson. New GM and HC.

NFC South
Tampa - If Brady retires, the Bucs are left with Blaine Gabbert and Kyle Trask. That's not a good situation. If he retires, could Rodgers slide right into his place? The economics (cap) might be tricky.
New Orleans - Payton retired and there are bunch of mediocre QB's. Jameis was on a prove it deal and was just ok. Ian Book sucked in his one game, they are paying a ton to Taysom Hill, and they have the worst cap situation in the league. Payton is getting out just in time. If I'm the GM in New Orleans, I think long and hard about burning it to the ground, clearing up the cap and make a run at the #1 draft choice to get Stroud or Young.
Carolina - Traded for Sam Darnold, who did little to assure he's the QB going forward. He has one more year left on his contract. It wouldn't surprise me to see Panthers make a move a Qb in off-season either in trade/FA or draft.
Atlanta - Matt Ryan will be 37 next season. He's playing decent but not great. A lot of people thought Falcons might make a move at spot #5 in last years draft but they went for TE Pitts. They have pick #8 this year. Ryan has renegotiated his salary three straight years, which has led to to a bad contract situation for him and Atlanta. They are 27th in cap space.

NFC North
Packers - Covered previously
Vikings - New coach and GM, Kirk Cousins will be a FA after 2022. He has 45 million dollar cap hit in 2022. They either have to trade him, sign him to extended deal or move on.
Bears - Traded up to get Fields, he's #1 going forward. They still have Foles for one more year. Dalton is a free agent.
Lions - Traded for Goff and 2 first rounders. Goff still has three more years to go. I assume they are still undecided if he is the guy. But the same GM and HC are in place. I say they stick with him.

NFC West
Rams - 100% set
49's - 49's traded up to #3 and took Trey Lance. The working assumption was that Jimmy Garafalo would move on after this season. But he keeps winning. Garafalo has one year one his deal at 27 million and 1 one million cap hit. So trading him to someone like Washington makes a ton of sense.
Seattle - Covered previously. Has 2 years left on his deal. Geno Smith is his backup and played pretty well this season.
Cards - Probably 100% set.

[Rojo Rijo]

Good stuff!

[Sea Ray]

Geno Smith is done in Seattle. He's not signed for next yr and has legal troubles to sort out

[oregonred]

Great job jaxred

Shows in detail why the AFC is loaded at the QB position and that the NFC is essentially a QB dumpster fire.

Especially if no Brady and Rodgers then arguably only the Cowboys, Rams and Cardinals are set at QB. Love/Lance both unproven at this stage.

Also outlines what I have been saying that Jacksonville, with Trevor Lawrence development, could own the AFC South (minus a major QB pivot/trade by Indy and or Tenn).

Rodgers would be crazy to leave Green Bay unless he lands in the QB poor NFC South or elsewhere in the NFC North or (minus Dak) the complete QB mess that is the NFC East.

Can the Bengals petition to move to the NFC South for the next five years?? They would be a 12 win team for the forseeable future.

[Chip R]

The thing about Watson is that even if he settles with all his accusers, he's going to cost some team draft picks (maybe a player or two too) he's going to cost them a big salary and he could potentially be suspended by the league. How would you like to be the Dolphins, for example, and give up a boat load of picks and the NFL suspends him for a partial or full season?

[texasdave]

How often does the team with the better quarterback win their game?

[JaxRed]

The Giants new GM spoke today (along with their owner) and said they are going forward with Jones and would not be trading for Watson. The last part was pretty definitive. They, among other things, cited Cap room. Giants are not in good shape. They rank 28th in cap space. It's a testament to how bad the prior GM was when you have a REALLY bad team (4-13) and you paid more for them than all but 4 teams.

Jones is on the last year of his rookie deal. It will say a lot about the Giants feelings if they pick up his 5th year option. My guess is they won't. The Giants have picks #5 and #7 this year. So they should get 2 real good players, but they are a candidate in the "burn it down" and get Stroud competition.

[JaxRed]

Geno Smith is done in Seattle. He's not signed for next yr and has legal troubles to sort out

Thanks. Missed that he was a FA and forgot about the DUI. Just read up on it and saw he was driving 96 and had to be restrained to get a court ordered blood sample. I say he's not only gone from Seattle, but may have seem his last NFL roster.

[Slyder]

I think Mariotta is a free agent in Oakland, so we will need someone else as Nathan Peterman's Fan Club President (Gruden) is gone and likely done as well in Oakland.

[JaxRed]

I think Mariotta is a free agent in Oakland, so we will need someone else as Nathan Peterman's Fan Club President (Gruden) is gone and likely done as well in Oakland.

Good catch. Mariotta is FA. He could be a cheap on a prove it deal someplace. (New Orleans?)

[JaxRed]

Big Ben makes it official. He's retiring...

[Betterread]

Your Vikings summary is incorrect. There is no new ownership of the team. The Wilf family has owned the Vikings since 2005.

[JaxRed]

Your Vikings summary is incorrect. There is no new ownership of the team. The Wilf family has owned the Vikings since 2005.

You're right. I meant coach and GM. I can't edit it. If a mod wants to correct that I'd love it.

[Puffy]

The Giants new GM spoke today (along with their owner) and said they are going forward with Jones and would not be trading for Watson. The last part was pretty definitive. They, among other things, cited Cap room. Giants are not in good shape. They rank 28th in cap space. It's a testament to how bad the prior GM was when you have a REALLY bad team (4-13) and you paid more for them than all but 4 teams.

Jones is on the last year of his rookie deal. It will say a lot about the Giants feelings if they pick up his 5th year option. My guess is they won't. The Giants have picks #5 and #7 this year. So they should get 2 real good players, but they are a candidate in the "burn it down" and get Stroud competition.

And it was entirely foreseeable. Gettleman was a dinosaur who John Mara wanted because he was part of Giants family. I vowed to my nephew the day he was hired that I would not spend a dime on the Giants (merchandise or anything G-Men related) until Gettleman was gone. Hallelujah!

Anyway, yes their cap situation is horrible but they can cut vets to free up money. I agree, picking up 5th year is very unlikely. They need to address OL and Edge rusher and see how year develops, but I would imagine they are locked in to another Top 10 pick next year for a better QB class.

And awesome writeup Jax! Thanks for that

[Boss-Hog]

You're right. I meant coach and GM. I can't edit it. If a mod wants to correct that I'd love it.Done

[JaxRed]

And I guess it was real.......

Tom Brady retires !!!

[UKFlounder]

Brady’s retiring him, so the Bucs are in the QB market now as speculated above

Edit: Well, Jax beat me to it

[JaxRed]

Uhhhh...... Tom Brady is calling people including the Buc's GM to tell him that he has NOT made a decision yet !!!

(This could just be TB12's attempt to control the narrative, but very interesting)

[RedTeamGo!]

Wouldn’t it be funny if Brady was like “I was going to retire but some hack writers broke the story instead of me being able to. As a result I’m coming back for 2022.”

[JaxRed]

Uhhhh...... Tom Brady is calling people including the Buc's GM to tell him that he has NOT made a decision yet !!!

(This could just be TB12's attempt to control the narrative, but very interesting)

Ian Rappaport says exactly this. Still retiring but trying to dictate the timing.

[JaxRed]

And..... there it is. Brady announces he's retiring.

[Sea Ray]

And..... there it is. Brady announces he's retiring.

Brady thanked all kinds of people but I found this interesting:


The 44-year-old thanked several members of the Bucs organization in addition to his personal trainer/business partner Alex Guerrero, his agent, Don Yee, and his family, but not Patriots owner Robert Kraft, head coach Bill Belichick or any member of the New England organization.

https://www.nbcsports.com/boston/patriots/tom-brady-officially-announces-nfl-retirement-lengthy-instagram-statement

How do you thank your coach of 2 yrs and not Belichick and the New England Patriots?

[Slyder]

And I guess it was real.......

Tom Brady retires !!!

I 10000000000% expect him to come out and say "You all were a bit to happy about that news, I'm Back". I guess Guissel finally won.

[Chip R]

Brady thanked all kinds of people but I found this interesting:



https://www.nbcsports.com/boston/patriots/tom-brady-officially-announces-nfl-retirement-lengthy-instagram-statement

How do you thank your coach of 2 yrs and not Belichick and the New England Patriots?

I saw where Kraft tweeted a statement congratulating him and Brady responded by thanking Patriots Nation.

[Sea Ray]

I saw where Kraft tweeted a statement congratulating him and Brady responded by thanking Patriots Nation.

That was classy of Kraft but I'm sure he's well aware of Brady's original diss. Any mention of Brady thanking Belichick?

[GAC]

So we saw the end of two illustrious QB careers in Big Ben and Brady. Big shoes to fill. When I reflect back on all the great QBs I had the privilege to watch - I was either Bart or Johnny in those backyard games - up until the day they stepped off the field for the final time? ... it shows just how damn old I really am. I'm still having a hard time around the fact that it's been 50+ years since the Beatles broke up.

I am still uterrly amazed at how far the Bengals "jumped", from 2-14 two years ago, to a Super Bowl appearance (and I hope a win). Yes, Burrows deserves his share of the credit. But lets not forget the other vital pieces, such as drafting Chase, improving their receiving corp. The O-line was, again, an issue, and needs addressed. But yet, some how, Mixon was the NFL's 3rd leading rusher (1200+ yds).

And finally, Zach Taylor, and his entire coaching staff, the scheme/play calling came together.

But landing that franchise leading QB is a HUGE boost. And how many 1st round QBs have we seen over the years become subpar or busts? Sure, in some instances, it's almost a given with some coming out of college ... Elway, Manning, Luck, etc ... but Brady was a 6th rounder.

Just improve the O-line and protect this kid ... and make me proud to be an OHIOAN (for a change) by bringing home a Super Bowl title (LOL)

Bengals lead the series with the Rams 8-6-0

[WVRed]

So we saw the end of two illustrious QB careers in Big Ben and Brady. Big shoes to fill. When I reflect back on all the great QBs I had the privilege to watch - I was either Bart or Johnny in those backyard games - up until the day they stepped off the field for the final time? ... it shows just how damn old I really am. I'm still having a hard time around the fact that it's been 50+ years since the Beatles broke up.

I am still uterrly amazed at how far the Bengals "jumped", from 2-14 two years ago, to a Super Bowl appearance (and I hope a win). Yes, Burrows deserves his share of the credit. But lets not forget the other vital pieces, such as drafting Chase, improving their receiving corp. The O-line was, again, an issue, and needs addressed. But yet, some how, Mixon was the NFL's 3rd leading rusher (1200+ yds).

And finally, Zach Taylor, and his entire coaching staff, the scheme/play calling came together.

Bengals lead the series with the Rams 8-6-0

I’m honestly not as worried about the offensive line to where I think it needs improved through the draft anymore.

The Bengals have cap space and have shown a willingness to spend lately. With this Super Bowl run they can attract free agents who want a chance at a ring vs drafting and developing which takes time.

Draft needs to be best player available regardless of position and fill any other hole through free agency.

[Sea Ray]

So we saw the end of two illustrious QB careers in Big Ben and Brady. Big shoes to fill. When I reflect back on all the great QBs I had the privilege to watch - I was either Bart or Johnny in those backyard games - up until the day they stepped off the field for the final time? ... it shows just how damn old I really am. I'm still having a hard time around the fact that it's been 50+ years since the Beatles broke up.

I am still uterrly amazed at how far the Bengals "jumped", from 2-14 two years ago, to a Super Bowl appearance (and I hope a win). Yes, Burrows deserves his share of the credit. But lets not forget the other vital pieces, such as drafting Chase, improving their receiving corp. The O-line was, again, an issue, and needs addressed. But yet, some how, Mixon was the NFL's 3rd leading rusher (1200+ yds).

And finally, Zach Taylor, and his entire coaching staff, the scheme/play calling came together.

But landing that franchise leading QB is a HUGE boost. And how many 1st round QBs have we seen over the years become subpar or busts? Sure, in some instances, it's almost a given with some coming out of college ... Elway, Manning, Luck, etc ... but Brady was a 6th rounder.

Just improve the O-line and protect this kid ... and make me proud to be an OHIOAN (for a change) by bringing home a Super Bowl title (LOL)

Bengals lead the series with the Rams 8-6-0

Thanks for your support and yes, it is amazing that we've gone from being the worst team to the Super Bowl in just two seasons.

I think RZ is just too kind but I'm going to just come out and say it: The name is Burrow. There is no "S" in his name.

[Slyder]

Brady thanked all kinds of people but I found this interesting:



https://www.nbcsports.com/boston/patriots/tom-brady-officially-announces-nfl-retirement-lengthy-instagram-statement

How do you thank your coach of 2 yrs and not Belichick and the New England Patriots?

He's signing a 1 day contract to retire a Pat. He'll probably do all that today.

[WVRed]

Apparently Aaron Rodgers is buying property in Nashville fueling speculation he could be headed to Tennessee to replace Ryan Tannehill.

[oregonred]

Or he likes country music and zero state income tax

[GAC]

I’m honestly not as worried about the offensive line to where I think it needs improved through the draft anymore.

The Bengals have cap space and have shown a willingness to spend lately. With this Super Bowl run they can attract free agents who want a chance at a ring vs drafting and developing which takes time.

Draft needs to be best player available regardless of position and fill any other hole through free agency.

I didn't say what method needed to be utilized to improve the line, protect Burrow. Just git r dun! :thumbup:

[GAC]

I think RZ is just too kind but I'm going to just come out and say it: The name is Burrow. There is no "S" in his name.

There is if you are a native born and raised in Ohia. Krogers, Walmarts. If it drives some crazy, then my job is done here. lol

[JaxRed]

ProFootballTalk is floating the Rodgers to Tennessee talk. Says it would be hard to pull off with Titans cap situation.

[Rojo Rijo]

Could do a Rodgers for Tannehill flip but still about 8 million in difference and Tennessee would need to give up some draft capital.

I'd think maybe Tannehill + Janoris Jenkins + Two future 1sts ('22, '23) for Rodgers and a future 3rd and a future 5th would work.

[oregonred]

Rodgers isn't a fool. he isn't going to the AFC especially with Brady gone

However he is cunning enough to make sure he has some additional leverage with the Packers

[WVRed]

Rodgers isn't a fool. he isn't going to the AFC especially with Brady gone

However he is cunning enough to make sure he has some additional leverage with the Packers

He would be king of the AFC South. Jacksonville is a laughingstock, the Texans are rebuilding and not even doing that right. Only other team in contention is the Colts.

You talk about how Rodgers could go to the NFC South and run through the division. Put him in Tennessee with Henry, Julio, and AJ Brown and he could do it there too.

[Sea Ray]

There is if you are a native born and raised in Ohia. Krogers, Walmarts. If it drives some crazy, then my job is done here. lol

Are there Baker Mayfields?

[JaxRed]

Here's one I didn't see coming......

Arizona QB Kyler Murray has unfollowed the team & removed all Cardinals-related content from his Instagram.

[WVRed]

Here's one I didn't see coming......

Arizona QB Kyler Murray has unfollowed the team & removed all Cardinals-related content from his Instagram.

Speculation is he will end up in Tampa.

Makes no sense.

[Todd Gack]

Here's one I didn't see coming......

Arizona QB Kyler Murray has unfollowed the team & removed all Cardinals-related content from his Instagram.

I haven't been following. What's the issue?

[JaxRed]

I haven't been following. What's the issue?

No one knows at this point.

[Slyder]

I’m only speculating… did they maybe try to low ball Murray and he is going to look at baseball seriously or try to get traded?

[Sea Ray]

It appears to be all about contract negotiations

https://www.si.com/nfl/2022/02/08/kyler-murray-cardinals-qbs-social-media-scrub-future

I guess he doesn't want his 5th yr option picked up. He wants a fat multiyr deal

[WVRed]

Saw an interesting trade proposal:

Baker Mayfield plus draft picks (1st) to Arizona for Kyler Murray.

I doubt Cleveland does it because they need receiving help but Murray is a better fit for Stefanski with his mobility combined with Cleveland’s ground game.

Mayfield would be reunited with Kingsbury but that didn’t end well in Lubbock. Might have better weapons than he did in Cleveland.

[JaxRed]

I wouldn't do this if I'm Cleveland. I might do a straight swap but no way I give up a first. To me they are kind of the same guy. #1 overall picks, that you aren't sure are going to be the guy that can take you to the promised land. One is on his 5th year option, 1 is one year away from his 5th year option. Murray is obviously posturing to get his big contract guaranteed now before he's plays his 4th year.

And if I'm Arizona I don't do it without a first rounder. So I don't think they match up well. It will be interesting to see what Arizona does if Murray holds out.

[JaxRed]

The new coaches in Miami and the Giants are swearing by the existing QBs.

[WVRed]

The new coaches in Miami and the Giants are swearing by the existing QBs.

Might as well. This draft class sucks. Malik Willis, Matt Corral, Sam Howell, and Kenny Pickett are the top QBs and none are in line to go very high. Wouldn’t be surprised to see maybe Willis and Pickett in the first and the other two slide.

2023 has the potential to be a loaded class. CJ Stroud, Bryce Young, Spencer Rattler, Phil Jurkovec, Will Levis, Jake Haener, and Jaren Hall all could be first round picks depending on what happens this year. I don’t think there will be 7 first round picks (that’s a record) but depending on how trades play out and team needs it could be 1999 where three QBs went 1-2-3.

[JaxRed]

Murray situation per Chris Mortensen

The odd vibe between the @AZCardinals and Kyler Murray is indeed alarming:
Murray is described as self-centered, immature and finger pointer, per sources.
Murray is frustrated with franchise and was embarrassed by playoff loss to Rams and thinks he’s been framed as the scapegoat

Where’s it headed?
Despite the acrimony, the Cardinals expect things to calm down and Murray is their QB.
Select veterans hope to reach Murray on how he handle adversity better.
Coach Kliff Kingsbury also is self-scouting where he can provide better alternatives for QB.

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Given this situation, I think we are headed for trouble. There's no way Az should give an expensive long term deal if they feel this way. And Murray is obviously going to want one.

[JaxRed]

He must have said it on TV because I don't see it on Twitter but folks are saying that Chris Mortenson is reporting that Colts will trade or release Wentz before March 19th. And that 15 million of his salary becomes guaranteed on the 19th.

First.... who would trade for him, knowing he busted out in Philly and that after 1 year in Indy team wants to move on? If they traded for him a team would be on the hook for 3 years at 27 mill per year.
Second - Yikes, Indy. Not a good look to trade a first round pick and cut the guy after 1 year. Is the owner having a knee jerk reaction and forcing the GMs hand? Or, like Philly, has Indy decided he just doesn't have "it" anymore?
Third - And that would leave a pretty good Indy team without a QB and without a first round pick.

[dubc47834]

He must have said it on TV because I don't see it on Twitter but folks are saying that Chris Mortenson is reporting that Colts will trade or release Wentz before March 19th. And that 15 million of his salary becomes guaranteed on the 19th.

First.... who would trade for him, knowing he busted out in Philly and that after 1 year in Indy team wants to move on? If they traded for him a team would be on the hook for 3 years at 27 mill per year.
Second - Yikes, Indy. Not a good look to trade a first round pick and cut the guy after 1 year. Is the owner having a knee jerk reaction and forcing the GMs hand? Or, like Philly, has Indy decided he just doesn't have "it" anymore?
Third - And that would leave a pretty good Indy team without a QB and without a first round pick.

I don't think he does get traded, probably released. But any team that sucks and needs a QB would be who I would hit up. A team with a really good defense. I think he could be good in Denver.

[WVRed]

He must have said it on TV because I don't see it on Twitter but folks are saying that Chris Mortenson is reporting that Colts will trade or release Wentz before March 19th. And that 15 million of his salary becomes guaranteed on the 19th.

First.... who would trade for him, knowing he busted out in Philly and that after 1 year in Indy team wants to move on? If they traded for him a team would be on the hook for 3 years at 27 mill per year.
Second - Yikes, Indy. Not a good look to trade a first round pick and cut the guy after 1 year. Is the owner having a knee jerk reaction and forcing the GMs hand? Or, like Philly, has Indy decided he just doesn't have "it" anymore?
Third - And that would leave a pretty good Indy team without a QB and without a first round pick.

Honestly, Frank Reich and possibly even Chris Ballard should fall on the sword as well as Wentz. They started hot and crashed down the stretch.

Wentz was Reichs guy. He coached him in Philly and played a role in getting Wentz to Indy. If it fails this bad then Reich should be at minimum on the hot seat to start next season.

[oregonred]

Murray must be hanging with team culture killer and fellow Cardinal Carson Palmer. He needs to look around the NFC and be happy he has a wide open lane vs. The AFC MahomesAllenBurrowHerbertJacksonLawrence monster.

[JaxRed]

Honestly, Frank Reich and possibly even Chris Ballard should fall on the sword as well as Wentz. They started hot and crashed down the stretch.

Wentz was Reichs guy. He coached him in Philly and played a role in getting Wentz to Indy. If it fails this bad then Reich should be at minimum on the hot seat to start next season.

I'm not convinced that the coaches aren't still behind Wentz but the owner is forcing their hand.

[Assembly Hall]

I'm not convinced that the coaches aren't still behind Wentz but the owner is forcing their hand.

And just who does Irsay think he is gonna get? That is what I want to know.

[Sea Ray]

And just who does Irsay think he is gonna get? That is what I want to know.

Wentz is due $28mill this year. That's pretty pricy. Granted his replacement may very well be a step down but far cheaper. Maybe Andy Dalton at $10mill?

[JaxRed]

For subscribers of the Athletic, there is an interesting article about the QBs. Notably: Rodgers, Brady, Murray, Wentz and Garoppolo

Why Brady? The author thinks he might un-retire if it means going to the 49's which is his childhood team. Shares an agent with Garoppolo. Says rumors are Brady was frustrated with Tampa Bay coaching.

Good article.

[Assembly Hall]

Wentz is due $28mill this year. That's pretty pricy. Granted his replacement may very well be a step down but far cheaper. Maybe Andy Dalton at $10mill?

I pass on Andy.

[Sea Ray]

I pass on Andy.

I get it but it's not our money. Andy is a much better value than Wentz at $30mill. I wouldn't pay that unless I felt that guy would take us to the playoffs.

[Chip R]

For subscribers of the Athletic, there is an interesting article about the QBs. Notably: Rodgers, Brady, Murray, Wentz and Garoppolo

Why Brady? The author thinks he might un-retire if it means going to the 49's which is his childhood team. Shares an agent with Garoppolo. Says rumors are Brady was frustrated with Tampa Bay coaching.

Good article.

Brady going to SF seems unlikely. I don't think Shanahan is going to uproot his whole system to bring him in and cater to his every whim.

[goreds2]

QB Carson Wentz could be ideal fit for the Steelers next season


There are two ways to look at this. If the Steelers trade for Wentz, his cost by comparison to even a player like Jimmy Garoppolo would be a bargain. Wentz’s contract is big in 2022 but is structured in such a way that the final two seasons offer much more flexibility.

However, there is a real possibility that the Colts won’t get any takers and they simply choose to release him. At that point it just becomes a matter of where Wentz wants to play and where the money is right. I’d like to think coming to a team with guys like Najee Harris, Diontae Johnson, Chase Claypool and Pat Freiermuth would be of some interest to the former North Dakota State prospect.

The Philadelphia Eagles drafted Wentz No. 2 overall in the 2016 NFL draft. Pittsburgh is working to replace Ben Roethlisberger who retired at the end of the season and while we don’t know what direction the Steelers front office will go in, they could do much worse than Wentz.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/qb-carson-wentz-could-be-ideal-fit-for-the-steelers-next-season/ar-AATQhGn

[WVRed]

QB Carson Wentz could be ideal fit for the Steelers next season



https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/qb-carson-wentz-could-be-ideal-fit-for-the-steelers-next-season/ar-AATQhGn

It the Steelers sign or trade for Wentz, that says they aren’t high on any QB in this class and are willing to punt for 2023 which is more loaded.

[Sea Ray]

QB Carson Wentz could be ideal fit for the Steelers next season



https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/qb-carson-wentz-could-be-ideal-fit-for-the-steelers-next-season/ar-AATQhGn

He does sound like a nice fit for the Steelers but they won't spend $22mill on him. No one will.

[Assembly Hall]

He does sound like a nice fit for the Steelers but they won't spend $22mill on him. No one will.

Meh, Wentz is worth every penny of it! LOL

[goreds2]

Former NFL QB thinks Russell Wilson to Washington would be a 'great move'


If Wilson were to eventually request a trade from Seattle this offseason, former NFL quarterback and current analyst David Carr thinks the Washington Commanders would be a "great move" for the 33-year-old signal-caller.

"Go to Washington. I feel like that would be a great move," Carr said.

https://sports.yahoo.com/former-nfl-qb-thinks-russell-162419526.html

[KoryMac5]

Former NFL QB thinks Russell Wilson to Washington would be a 'great move'



https://sports.yahoo.com/former-nfl-qb-thinks-russell-162419526.html

I saw today where Washington is making every player on it's roster available for trade to get a franchise QB....

If I am Houston I would be on the phone quick for Chase Young and picks...

[JaxRed]

I saw today where Washington is making every player on it's roster available for trade to get a franchise QB....



I'd like to see where that info is coming from.....

[JaxRed]

Blue Checkmark Rich Ohrnberger (Fox ARadio Host) says Brady and Arians were a little conflicted. Seems to support what the article in Athletic said a couple days ago.

Rich Ohrnberger
@ohrnberger
Heard some interesting things recently... The Tom Brady & Bruce Arians honeymoon was over in Tampa. The retirement announcement wasn't because of the trouble seeing eye to eye on the offensive game planning, but the relationship was souring.

Apparently, while Arians was rehabbing the achilles in the early mornings, offensive coordinator Byron Leftwich and Brady would work on the week's game plan. Arians would later come in and take the red pen to work they'd done. The QB and OC felt undermined, there was tension.

[JaxRed]

Meanwhile there are rumbling that the Raiders and new management are in love, Unlike previous management who always seemed to be unsure and thinking of seeing other people.

Jordan Schultz
@Schultz_Report
·
Feb 15
Sources: With the full support of Dave Ziegler and Josh McDaniels, the #Raiders plan to offer Derek Carr top-tier QB money. I’m told that Carr is seeking in the range of $35M+. It’s also worth noting that both sides are open to a short-term extension.

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Teams just seem to go nuts throwing crazy money after Qb's that are solid but not among the leagues best.

[JaxRed]

Meanwhile Schultz reports the craziness might have spread to Minnesota


Kirk Cousins has zero intention of taking a pay cut, sources says. I’m told an extension could pay Cousins, 33, around $40M per year. #Vikings

[WVRed]

Looks like Wentz to the Steelers is progressing.

[goreds2]

Looks like Wentz to the Steelers is progressing.

Wow! I did not hear that but I do not have Facebook or Twitter.

[JaxRed]

Wow! I did not hear that but I do not have Facebook or Twitter.

That's ok. It was a bogus report from a non-blue check person. When an Indy based Blue Check source said it was false, the first post was deleted.

Indy would have to pay a huge majority of his contract for me trade for him.

[KoryMac5]

I'd like to see where that info is coming from.....

Ben Standig wrote that piece for the Athletic basically saying that even Chase Young is available for the right QB. Rivera recently stated that there is a sense of urgency in finding one. So maybe some speculation mixed in with some truth by Standig.

[JaxRed]

Judd Zulgad (non blue checkmark) of SKOR North (Blue checkmark) has reported that Carolina has called Minnesota to inquire about Cousins. In my mind, Carolina has made a lot of miscues recently (this coming from a Jags fan!!). To me, trading for a massively expensive QB that is not in Top 10 of QB's is the wrong way to go.

Apparently talks did not progress.

[JaxRed]

Aaron Rodgers just posted a message of thanks to many people. There was a lot of past tense in the message......

https://twitter.com/TheAthletic/status/1495987009990627328/photo/2

[JaxRed]

Aaron Rodgers just posted a message of thanks to many people. There was a lot of past tense in the message......

https://twitter.com/TheAthletic/status/1495987009990627328/photo/2

Can't make this stuff up..... he said he was just coming off a 12 day cleanse and wanted to thank everyone. On the other hand, someone said hIs Thank You message, followed by appearance on Pat McAfee show today,, coupled with a press conference by GM tomorrow, could mean an announcement is coming tomorrow (23rd)

[JaxRed]

The Athletic (which I highly recommend ...but not at list price. I paid $20 for a year) had an article that was a 10 step program for avoiding a disastrous off-season.

Step 5 which applies here...."Don’t use significant resources for competency at QB". Basically saying if you don't have one of the elite QB's (Allen, Mahomes, etc) don't pay big dollars (or draft capital) to acquire an average QB. There have been so many examples, over the last few years. Jags - Foles, Panthers - Bridgewater, Panthers - Darnold, Colts - Wentz.

[Larkin90]

Bengals need to find a way to pick up a significantly more competent backup to Burrow. I’m personally partial to a guy like Mariota, who’s young and athletic with decent upside.

Especially with his knee injury history and a subpar line, it’s just poor planning to hinge the entire season on a healthy Joe Burrow. With a few good additions and another solid draft, this team could contend for another division title and conference championship, but if Brandon Allen has to see any real playing time, all that goes out the window.

Who else is out there that offers a significant upgrade to Allen?

[JaxRed]

If I'm Mariota, I try to got to a team that needs a starter, like Saints or Panthers.

[JaxRed]

So Kyler Murray and his agent are putting out the word that they don't intend to play in 2022 unless team gives him a new long term contract. Cardinals are saying he's their long term guy, so I assume they will cave. Murray is under contract for 2022 and Cards can pick up his 2023 option.

Frankly if I'm the Cards, I explore whether you might get a Kings ransom from Saints, Commanders, Panthers, etc.

[JaxRed]

A lot of talk at the combine about how FA Mitch Trubisky will be in demand.

[RiverRat13]

So Kyler Murray and his agent are putting out the word that they don't intend to play in 2022 unless team gives him a new long term contract. Cardinals are saying he's their long term guy, so I assume they will cave. Murray is under contract for 2022 and Cards can pick up his 2023 option.

Frankly if I'm the Cards, I explore whether you might get a Kings ransom from Saints, Commanders, Panthers, etc.

I'm glad my team is not in that spot. Kyler is very good but not sure he's worth the money he's going to want. And there's whispers that he's not as committed to preparation as he should be (great competitor on Sunday, not doing what the top guys do Monday through Saturday).

[JaxRed]

Jeff Howe has article in The Athletic about QBs. Hears that most think Rodgers goes back to Green Bay. Teams have no interest in Deshuan Watson until his legal status is cleared up. Matt Ryan going nowhere.

[WrongVerb]

Aaron Rodgers signing new deal stay with Packers (https://nypost.com/2022/03/08/aaron-rodgers-signing-new-deal-stay-with-packers/)

Looks like he got 4/$200 for his troubles.

[Sea Ray]

Aaron Rodgers signing new deal stay with Packers (https://nypost.com/2022/03/08/aaron-rodgers-signing-new-deal-stay-with-packers/)

Looks like he got 4/$200 for his troubles.

Thanks for being Johnny on the Spot and reporting this so promptly. This decision does not surprise me but I'm wondering what this is going to do to their cap. He already had dead money on the cap from his last deal. I'm glad we're done with this drama. I never understood why he thought GB was such a raw deal. They surrounded him with talent and he's in a real easy division with a wonderful home field advantage

[redsfandan]

Now what will Denver do. Their biggest need is a QB upgrade.

[RiverRat13]

Now what will Denver do. Their biggest need is a QB upgrade.

Looks like the just traded for Russell Wilson.

[WVRed]

Looks like the just traded for Russell Wilson.

Haven’t announced yet what Seattle is getting back but reports are it’s massive.

[redsfandan]

Looks like the just traded for Russell Wilson.

They have interest but I haven't seen a confirmed deal.

[WVRed]

They have interest but I haven't seen a confirmed deal.

Schefter just confirmed it.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/33454258/sources-seattle-seahawks-trade-qb-russell-wilson-denver-broncos

Drew Lock is one of the players headed to Seattle.

[WVRed]

Russell Wilson just went from being the third best QB in his division to the third best QB in his division.

[redsfandan]

Schefter just confirmed it.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/33454258/sources-seattle-seahawks-trade-qb-russell-wilson-denver-broncos

Drew Lock is one of the players headed to Seattle.

Lock isn't important, the rest of the deal is what matters.

But, this has to instantly make the Broncos super bowl contenders.

[WVRed]

Lock isn't important, the rest of the deal is what matters.

But, this has to instantly make the Broncos super bowl contenders.

Shelby Miller (DT) is headed to Seattle.

Agree on Lock. Id say it’s going to be at least three first round picks.

[WVRed]

Here’s the official trade:
Drew Lock
Shelby Harris
Noah Fant
Two Firsts
Two Seconds
A Fifth

For

Russ
A 4th

[UKFlounder]

But tough, tough division


Lock isn't important, the rest of the deal is what matters.

But, this has to instantly make the Broncos super bowl contenders.

[JaxRed]

I kind of like the trade for Seattle. The question now is what do they do at QB. I doubt that Drew Lock is the long term plan. Are they now a contender for tear it down and get #1 in 2023?

[WVRed]

I kind of like the trade for Seattle. The question now is what do they do at QB. I doubt that Drew Lock is the long term plan. Are they now a contender for tear it down and get #1 in 2023?

2023 has a better QB class. Have to think Bryce Young or CJ Stroud will be the favorite to end up in Seattle.

Or they could go QB this year and let them sit behind Lock.

[JaxRed]

Thanks for being Johnny on the Spot and reporting this so promptly. This decision does not surprise me but I'm wondering what this is going to do to their cap. He already had dead money on the cap from his last deal. I'm glad we're done with this drama. I never understood why he thought GB was such a raw deal. They surrounded him with talent and he's in a real easy division with a wonderful home field advantage

The word is the deal will help them this year. That means GB is probably headed for cap hell down the road.

[Kingspoint]

The word is the deal will help them this year. That means GB is probably headed for cap hell down the road.

You have the best player in the NFL in your lockerroom. You sell out to win a Championship this season. Worst-case scenario is things blow up, you trade him and you tank. Packers should be the #1 Seed in the NFC next season, giving them a great chance to get to the Super Bowl and lose to the Bengals.

[Tony Cloninger]

Well they needed a QB but it does not make them a SB contender. Not better then Buffalo. KC. Baltimore or even Cincinnati.

[WVRed]

The word is the deal will help them this year. That means GB is probably headed for cap hell down the road.

Kinda like the Saints trying to maximize Drew Brees’ window.

By the time Rodgers retires GB will be going into full rebuild.

[WVRed]

Carson Wentz to Washington for apparently two third round picks.

[JaxRed]

Interesting trade for Commanders. They do get a possible decent starting QB for just 2 thirds, but if he suceeds, he gets 20+ million for 3 years. If he fails, it looks to me as if he can be cut after the year and be owed nothing. If I'm Washington I view this as a prove-it deal for Wentz.

Colts end their one night stand with Wentz. It cost them last years #3 and a this years #1.

[Assembly Hall]

Now what do the Colts do?

[Revering4Blue]

Now what do the Colts do?

Pursue Jimmy G (49ers) per rumors.


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[KronoRed]

Now what do the Colts do?

After the party is over?

[Sea Ray]

Interesting trade for Commanders. They do get a possible decent starting QB for just 2 thirds, but if he suceeds, he gets 20+ million for 3 years. If he fails, it looks to me as if he can be cut after the year and be owed nothing. If I'm Washington I view this as a prove-it deal for Wentz.

Colts end their one night stand with Wentz. It cost them last years #3 and a this years #1.

I guess Washington knows Wentz well since he was in their division for most of his career. As for the Colts they did get a couple 3rds for him so in the end the 3rds wash out and the other 3rd means they gave up something less than a 1st for him. Seems about right but they're certainly lacking at QB now

[WVRed]

I guess Washington knows Wentz well since he was in their division for most of his career. As for the Colts they did get a couple 3rds for him so in the end the 3rds wash out and the other 3rd means they gave up something less than a 1st for him. Seems about right but they're certainly lacking at QB now

I think one of the 3rds can become a 2nd and they swapped picks in the second round.

I think Trubisky would be an interesting fit in Indianapolis. Reich could probably get more out of him than Nagy did and the Colts have plenty of weapons and an O-line to mask any deficiencies.

[Sea Ray]

The Seattle-Denver deal isn't finalized, is it? My guess is Wilson is not doing it w/o a new fat contract...which he'll probably get

[redsfandan]

I think one of the 3rds can become a 2nd and they swapped picks in the second round.

I think Trubisky would be an interesting fit in Indianapolis. Reich could probably get more out of him than Nagy did and the Colts have plenty of weapons and an O-line to mask any deficiencies.
I think Trubisky is headed to the Giants.

The Seattle-Denver deal isn't finalized, is it? My guess is Wilson is not doing it w/o a new fat contract...which he'll probably get
I think it is, pretty sure the physical has already been done.

[RichRed]

Wentz is awful, one of my least favorite QBs, so of course my team traded for him. I hate sports sometimes.

[redsfandan]

Just checked, Russell Wilson has passed his physical and signed off on the deal BUT the other players involved in the trade haven't taken their physicals yet.

[WVRed]

I think Trubisky is headed to the Giants.

I think it is, pretty sure the physical has already been done.

The Giants are expected to pursue him but other teams are going to offer starting jobs while he would have to battle out Daniel Jones in NY. Plus they are up against the cap as well.

Giants are enticing given the Buffalo pull but I wouldn’t call them a sure thing.

As for Russell Wilson, trades don’t become official until the start of the new league year which is next week I think.

[redsfandan]

The Giants are expected to pursue him but other teams are going to offer starting jobs while he would have to battle out Daniel Jones in NY. Plus they are up against the cap as well.

Giants are enticing given the Buffalo pull but I wouldn’t call them a sure thing.

As for Russell Wilson, trades don’t become official until the start of the new league year which is next week I think.

I think I read that Trubisky also has experience with the new Giants coach. So, there's that. But, you're right, things will be clearer next week.

[JaxRed]

The more I ponder the Commanders move the less I like it. They solved a massive dilemma for Colts and paid at least 2 third rounds picks for the privilege. Colts wipe all of Wentz' obligations off the books, saving 28 million in cap space and got two third rounders. I think Washington overpaid.

[Assembly Hall]

At one time the Colts appeared they were going to draft Jordan Love.

[WrongVerb]

The more I ponder the Commanders move the less I like it. They solved a massive dilemma for Colts and paid at least 2 third rounds picks for the privilege. Colts wipe all of Wentz' obligations off the books, saving 28 million in cap space and got two third rounders. I think Washington overpaid.

That's an improvement over most Washington personnel decisions.

[RichRed]

The more I ponder the Commanders move the less I like it. They solved a massive dilemma for Colts and paid at least 2 third rounds picks for the privilege. Colts wipe all of Wentz' obligations off the books, saving 28 million in cap space and got two third rounders. I think Washington overpaid.

It’s a terrible panic move by an incompetent organization. We didn’t get Wilson so we better do whatever it takes to get Wentz! Genius level stuff. The Snyder reign of error continues.

[WrongVerb]

It’s a terrible panic move by an incompetent organization. We didn’t get Wilson so we better do whatever it takes to get Wentz! Genius level stuff. The Snyder reign of error continues.

Wilson...Wentz...just a few letters different.

[KoryMac5]

I think I read that Trubisky also has experience with the new Giants coach. So, there's that. But, you're right, things will be clearer next week.

Yes he backed up Allen in Buffalo last year and Dabol loved him...if the Giants sign him it won't come cheap as he won't sign another 1 yr deal like last season. I would imagine he will have multiple offers on the table.

[UKFlounder]

Deshaun Watson will not be indicted.

Still faces sn NFL investigation and civil suits, but does this open upgrade talks for him?

[JaxRed]

Deshaun Watson will not be indicted.

Still faces sn NFL investigation and civil suits, but does this open upgrade talks for him?

Wide open.

[WVRed]

Wide open.

I’d say he will have a new home by Monday.

[redsfanmia]

It’s a terrible panic move by an incompetent organization. We didn’t get Wilson so we better do whatever it takes to get Wentz! Genius level stuff. The Snyder reign of error continues.

The Colts were going to cut him, I can’t believe Ballard found an organization less competent than he is to make this deal.

[redsfandan]

Deshaun Watson will not be indicted.

Still faces sn NFL investigation and civil suits, but does this open upgrade talks for him?


Wide open.


I’d say he will have a new home by Monday.
Hello, Seattle.

[Kingspoint]

The Colts were going to cut him, I can’t believe Ballard found an organization less competent than he is to make this deal.

Same goes for SEA. Fant was going to be cut, Lock wouldn't have brought back a 6th RD pick. The DT they got may or may not fit in with their DEF scheme, and they are committed to paying him over $10M/yr for multiple years. At least they were willing to admit that Wilson looked like an average QB the last year and a half, that his days of being a Top-tier QB are over. Those four years playing baseball and his number of hits, knockdowns and sacks had to catch up to him eventually. He can no longer be that QB that scrambles himself out of trouble, certainly not in DEN's OFF, which has always been getting rid of the ball quickly. So, is Wilson a good fit for DEN? Not really, but he's still a legitimate NFL QB for the next several years surrounded by 5 very good Receivers, 2 good RB's and an Offensive Line that was invested in heavily the last couple of seasons. DEN is still the worst team in the DIV, and they still aren't likely to make the playoffs next season.

[Kingspoint]

AFC is so much stronger than the NFC, just as it was last season, except it's a wider margin this year.

9-8 in the AFC equals 10-7 in the NFC. 12-5 in the AFC equals 14-3 in the NFC.

A 9-8 team could get in the playoffs in the AFC.

The NFC also has one more home game than the AFC this year.

The AFC South gets the luxury of playing the NFC East. Looks like the Titans are heading to back-to-back #1 seeds in the AFC.

[RichRed]

The Colts were going to cut him, I can’t believe Ballard found an organization less competent than he is to make this deal.

Oh, I can.

[WVRed]

Hello, Seattle.

Or Carolina

Or Minnesota if they can get Indianapolis to take Kirk Cousins.

[Rojo Rijo]

Expect Carolina to push hard for Watson and likely make a deal. I'd also think there is a very good chance Christian McCaffery is in the deal.

[RiverRat13]

Expect Carolina to push hard for Watson and likely make a deal. I'd also think there is a very good chance Christian McCaffery is in the deal.I wouldn't want that contract back if I'm the rebuilding Texans.

[WVRed]

I wouldn't want that contract back if I'm the rebuilding Texans.

Agreed.

At the same time the Panthers have the highest pick to offer in the first round compared to everyone else who needs a QB. Carolina should be the favorites unless they decide they don’t want him and the price is too high.

[oregonred]

NFC is so qb poor. Makes sense for Carolina to go all in for Watson.

[redsfandan]

Watson could end up on any of a dozen teams. I've seen Cleveland mentioned as a possibility (which would make me laugh).

[JaxRed]

And just like that...... Tom Brady is back !!

[redsfandan]

And just like that...... Tom Brady is back !!

It's Brett Favre 2.0.

[KronoRed]

Dude loves the drama.

[RiverRat13]

My crackpot theory - his "retirement" was a ploy to get out of Tampa Bay but the Bucs held firm.

The more rational theory is it is a tough decision and he genuinely thought he was done.

[Gandalf the Red]

Shouldn't he be required to spend the summer in the White Sox (or Rays?) minor league system before coming back to the Bucs?

[WrongVerb]

Looks like he finally badgered Geisel into letting him play.

[RedsBaron]

I was somewhat hopeful Gronk would sign with the Bengals, but I'm guessing if Brady returns to Tampa Bay so will Gronkowski.

[757690]

I knew something was up when Calvin Ridley put $10K on the Bucs to win the Super Bowl.

[JaxRed]

I want the next GM of my team to be Kirk Cousins. He has manipulated the system so well it's unbelievable. He's now been extended a year and picked up MORE money this year, while lowering the cap hit, and pushing the eventual cap hit even higher. And picked up a no trade clause. He gets 40 million this year.

His career record is 59-59-2.

You like that?

[Kingspoint]

Give the Colts credit for recognizing their mistake. So many G.M.'s, especially in the NFL, are unwilling to take a risk, yet alone admit their mistakes. CLE is in quicksand with Mayfield and won't grab the treebranch that's in their grasp to pull themselves out. Vikings doubled-down again with Cousins. SEA traded Wilson a year too late. HOU? We have a problem.

[JaxRed]

Supposedly (according to SI), Saints have made trade offer for Deshaun Watson.

[WVRed]

Give the Colts credit for recognizing their mistake. So many G.M.'s, especially in the NFL, are unwilling to take a risk, yet alone admit their mistakes. CLE is in quicksand with Mayfield and won't grab the treebranch that's in their grasp to pull themselves out. Vikings doubled-down again with Cousins. SEA traded Wilson a year too late. HOU? We have a problem.

Problem is the Colts have had five QBs in five years.

And if they go with Mariota it’ll be six because he’s not a long term option.

With the talent they’ve had they could have made a run if they had just drafted to replace Luck instead of going veteran after veteran every year.

[JaxRed]

Mitch Trubisky on 2 year deal to Steelers. If they didn't pay too much I like it.

[RedTeamGo!]

Mitch Trubisky on 2 year deal to Steelers. If they didn't pay too much I like it.

For the rest of the division? Trubisky stinks

[WVRed]

For the rest of the division? Trubisky stinks

I’d say they are drafting Malik Willis. Trubisky isn’t going to be long term.

[JaxRed]

I disagree. I say Trubisky gets a legit shot. NFL Network just showed a stat. Since 2018 he's 25-13. 5th best in the league (minimum 25 starts). Rich Eisen thinks they'll draft a QB too. Michael Irvin isn't so sure.

[JaxRed]

Peliserro says Bridgewater is going to Dolphins to back up Tua

[JaxRed]

John McClain (Houston reporter) Says Watson will not approve a trade to Seattle

Per
@McClain_on_NFL
, Deshaun Watson has rejected the Seahawks.

[JaxRed]

Adam Schefter
@AdamSchefter
·
10m
Houston has declined Indianapolis’ attempt to speak with Deshaun Watson, per source. Houston comfortable trading Watson - just not in the AFC South

[Kingspoint]

Watson has meeting scheduled in the next 48 hours with both of these clubs...

From NBC Sports w/ NBC Sports comments:

The Houston Chronicle's John McClain reports Deshaun Watson has "rejected everybody but Carolina and New Orleans.”

McClain's report falls in line with ESPN's Adam Schefter's Monday report that Watson will meet with the Saints and Panthers, amid his deposition in 22 civil cases alleging sexual assault against the Houston quarterback. Watson is expected to meet with both teams in Texas Monday night. The Texans' asking price for Watson reportedly hasn't changed: The team still wants multiple first rounders and players in a blockbuster deal for Watson. Carolina would seem like a nominally better landing spot for Watson's fantasy prospects. Later reports would note that Watson nixed Seattle from the list of possible destinations while the Texans didn't pick up the phone for Indianapolis in order to keep him out of the AFC South.

SOURCE: Kyle Bailey on Twitter

[JaxRed]

Mitch Trubisky on 2 year deal to Steelers. If they didn't pay too much I like it.

The #Steelers are signing QB Mitch Trubisky to a two-year, $14.25 million deal that's worth up to $27M with incentives, source said.

That's a real good price. I like this move for Steelers.

[Chip R]

And just like that...... Tom Brady is back !!

How would you like to be the guy who paid $500K for the ball he threw his last TD with? :laugh:

[Rojo Rijo]

Watson to visit the Browns. Wow.

Even if nothing becomes of it that is pretty much a vote of no confidence for Baker by the Browns.

[BuckeyeRed27]

Watson to visit the Browns. Wow.

Even if nothing becomes of it that is pretty much a vote of no confidence for Baker by the Browns.

I mean Watson is an obvious upgrade to Baker. The front office isn’t doing their job if they don’t at least kick the tires on him, no matter what their confidence level in Baker may be.

[Rojo Rijo]

I mean Watson is an obvious upgrade to Baker. The front office isn’t doing their job if they don’t at least kick the tires on him, no matter what their confidence level in Baker may be.

Of course, but bringing him in for a visit, I don't see how they can do that and then still go forward with Baker if they don't acquire Watson. I mean they could but it would be flat out uncomfortable and probably wreck the '23 season before it even begins.

[WVRed]

Of course, but bringing him in for a visit, I don't see how they can do that and then still go forward with Baker if they don't acquire Watson. I mean they could but it would be flat out uncomfortable and probably wreck the '23 season before it even begins.

From everything I’ve read the Texans have basically said they will not trade him within the AFC. You’d have to think it would be to one of the NFC South teams with Atlanta joining the market today.

[RedTeamGo!]

From everything I’ve read the Texans have basically said they will not trade him within the AFC. You’d have to think it would be to one of the NFC South teams with Atlanta joining the market today.

If the Browns offer 3 first round picks I think they will be ok with it.

[BuckeyeRed27]

If the Browns offer 3 first round picks I think they will be ok with it.

Yeah 3 firsts, 3 later round picks and a couple players not named Garrett, Ward, Wills, or Chubb. They aren’t gonna hang up.

[RiverRat13]

Carolina is home for Watson and the most desperate. I bet they make the best offer. But he could win right away in N.O. or Cleveland.

[Kingspoint]

I disagree. I say Trubisky gets a legit shot. NFL Network just showed a stat. Since 2018 he's 25-13. 5th best in the league (minimum 25 starts). Rich Eisen thinks they'll draft a QB too. Michael Irvin isn't so sure.

They weren't 25-13 because of Trubisky.

Trubisky sucks worse than Tyrod Taylor.

Nothing would make me happier than to see Trubisky behind Center for the Steelers.

[Kingspoint]

Cleveland has the most to offer as far as quality players, but Carolina wants to move McAffery, and that would be enticing.

[KoryMac5]

Cleveland has the most to offer as far as quality players, but Carolina wants to move McAffery, and that would be enticing.

Except that Houston wants no part of CMAC in a trade...injuries and contract are two huge reasons why. He has a full no trade clause ultimately he has a huge say where he goes the package in return is only a part of this circus.

[JaxRed]

Apparently Houston has approved trades with #Browns, #Panthers and #Saints, it's just a question now of which one Watson chooses. Mike Kaye of PFN thinks if Baker is out in Cleveland, then Indy makes sense.

Baker Mayfield basically writes a Goodbye message to Cleveland in case he leaves.

[JaxRed]

Chase Daniel resigns as backup for Chargers. Tyrod Taylor signs 2 year deal to back up Jones for Giants

[BuckeyeRed27]

Apparently Houston has approved trades with #Browns, #Panthers and #Saints, it's just a question now of which one Watson chooses. Mike Kaye of PFN thinks if Baker is out in Cleveland, then Indy makes sense.

Baker Mayfield basically writes a Goodbye message to Cleveland in case he leaves.

That good bye message reads like a guy whose confidence is absolutely shot.

If the Browns don’t land Watson, I would guess they will get Jimmy and send Baker to the Colts.

[JaxRed]

Watson meeting with Falcons today. I have not heard that Houston has approved a package from Atlanta. I don't see how Atlanta would make it work with Ryan there. Especially financially. And what must Ryan be thinking?

[Assembly Hall]

Watson meeting with Falcons today. I have not heard that Houston has approved a package from Atlanta. I don't see how Atlanta would make it work with Ryan there. Especially financially. And what must Ryan be thinking?

Ryan to the Colts?

[Rojo Rijo]

There are rumors that a Ryan to the Colts deal is already prepped contingent on Atlanta acquiring Watson.

Watson grew up in Gainesville GA about 1 hr outside of Atlanta. He was a Falcons ball boy growing up according to reports. I think the only thing that would deter him from giving the green light to Atlanta would be the lack of talent at the WR spot, especially now that Ridley is out for the year. Can't imagine the idea of throwing to Pitts as he's double covered all year is ideal.

I think Watson will go where he thinks he can win. I still like Carolina as the best fit for him.

[Kingspoint]

There are rumors that a Ryan to the Colts deal is already prepped contingent on Atlanta acquiring Watson.

Watson grew up in Gainesville GA about 1 hr outside of Atlanta. He was a Falcons ball boy growing up according to reports. I think the only thing that would deter him from giving the green light to Atlanta would be the lack of talent at the WR spot, especially now that Ridley is out for the year. Can't imagine the idea of throwing to Pitts as he's double covered all year is ideal.

I think Watson will go where he thinks he can win. I still like Carolina as the best fit for him.

Anywhere in the NFC would be the best choice if he wants to win.

[Kingspoint]

Very interesting....

From NBC Sports w/ NBC Sports comments:

PFF's Ari Meirov reports the Falcons never officially processed Matt Ryan's contract restructure.

The contract restructure was reported at the end of last week, but it never became official. If it had gone through, the extra dead money in future years would have made trading Ryan difficult. As it stands now, the Falcons would actually get some cap savings from moving Ryan, although they would still have to eat $40.5 million in dead cap. The Falcons met with Deshaun Watson on Wednesday and appear to be serious about trading for him. They will almost certainly have to move Ryan to make that happen.

SOURCE: Ari Meirov on Twitter

[WVRed]

Browns have been notified they are out of the running for DeShaun Watson.

[RedTeamGo!]

Browns have been notified they are out of the running for DeShaun Watson.

LMAO, the Browns are in a crazy mess now

[BuckeyeRed27]

LMAO, the Browns are in a crazy mess now

Gotta shoot your shot.

Now you either have a fired up Baker ready to prove something in his contract year or you trade him for Jimmy which is basically the same thing as Baker.

[RedTeamGo!]

Gotta shoot your shot.

Now you either have a fired up Baker ready to prove something in his contract year or you trade him for Jimmy which is basically the same thing as Baker.

Jimmy has a much better comp%

I would much rather have him. I would rather have just about anyone.

[The Operator]

Mayfield officially requests a trade. Browns say no.

What a mess.


https://www.cleveland.com/browns/2022/03/baker-mayfield-has-ask-the-browns-to-trade-him-and-they-tell-his-agents-they-will-not-accommodate-his-request.html

[RedTeamGo!]

They will trade him

[Rojo Rijo]

This is exactly what I was talking about the other day with Baker. When the Browns expressed interest in Watson they essentially ended their relationship with Baker. What are they going to do now, not trade him? I can't imagine the entertainment fans would get out of watching him QB this season for a team that tried to replace him.

[BuckeyeRed27]

Jimmy has a much better comp%

I would much rather have him. I would rather have just about anyone.

I don’t think it really makes a difference. Baker is acting like a baby right now, which you don’t really want from your QB, so I guess from that standpoint.

[JaxRed]

Blue Check Mark Cam Marino Reports

"Sounds like the bridge has been burnt between Matt Ryan & the Falcons, regardless of if the team acquires Deshaun Watson. Terrible scenario. Need to get Watson or they’re in trouble."

[redsfandan]

Sounds like Cleveland and Atlanta should make a deal: Ryan for Mayfield.

[BuckeyeRed27]

Sounds like Cleveland and Atlanta should make a deal: Ryan for Mayfield.

Old man Ryan playing outside in cold weather? No thanks.

[JaxRed]

Carolina has been told it's out of the running for Watson.

[Kingspoint]

Raiders should be able to recoup a Day 2 draft pick for Mariota.

[redsfandan]

Raiders should be able to recoup a Day 2 draft pick for Mariota.

Gotta wonder how much interest there has been in Mariota.

[Kingspoint]

Gotta wonder how much interest there has been in Mariota.

Everyone's waiting for Watson to sign so the dominoes can fall for the QB's.

I've heard some. He as good as Mayfield or Wentz last year when he had to play, though it was pretty much all designed runs.

Probably a 5th Rd, not a 3rd as I said earlier. He'd be someone you bring in, like SEA, to compete with another questionable QB that has been brought in, like Lock, and then I'd have a 3rd QB compete in Training Camp against those two, and let the best of the three get the job, releasing one of the three before the season starts. Bring in Jake Fromm and give him a look.

[redsfandan]

Everyone's waiting for Watson to sign so the dominoes can fall for the QB's.

I've heard some. He as good as Mayfield or Wentz last year when he had to play, though it was pretty much all designed runs.

Probably a 5th Rd, not a 3rd as I said earlier. He'd be someone you bring in, like SEA, to compete with another questionable QB that has been brought in, like Lock, and then I'd have a 3rd QB compete in Training Camp against those two, and let the best of the three get the job, releasing one of the three before the season starts. Bring in Jake Fromm and give him a look.
Pittsburgh needed a stopgap, someone that can be a bridge until they figure out who should be their QB when they make their next run. I've always thought Mariota could be a fit. But, apparently they didn't even consider him.

[JaxRed]

Athletic reporting that Browns would only get a Day 2 offer for Mayfield, so not worth their while to trade him.

[Puffy]

Raiders should be able to recoup a Day 2 draft pick for Mariota.

Mariota is a Free Agent. The Raiders cannot get anything for him

[Kingspoint]

Athletic reporting that Browns would only get a Day 2 offer for Mayfield, so not worth their while to trade him.

They are overvaluing him if they think he's worth a 1st Round pick. I don't know if he's worth a 3rd Rd pick. Maybe. Some team might take that chance.

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Mariota is a Free Agent. The Raiders cannot get anything for him

Thought they had him for one more year.

[Kingspoint]

From NBC Sports w/ NBC Sports comments:

ESPN's Dan Graziano reports that the "name he is hearing the most" as the Colts answer at quarterback is Marcus Mariota.

Mariota has also been linked to the 49ers by ESPN's Jeremy Fowler, as they'd be able to ease in Trey Lance if he isn't quite ready to seize the job. "Mariota is looking for the chance to start again," Fowler notes. "He could get his shot in Indy." Mariota wouldn't be an awe-inspiring acquisition for the Colts, but they did manage to mostly hide Carson Wentz's issues and Mariota could help Jonathan Taylor out as a read-option threat. The only quarterbacks on the Indianapolis roster currently are 2021 sixth-rounder Sam Ehlinger and UDFA James Morgan.

SOURCE: ESPN, March 13th.


Since this report, the Colts have spoken to Winston, while Garrapolo is linked ONLY with the Colts. They are looking at all options.

[Kingspoint]

per Shefter.

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https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1504907130477981699?s=20&t=6nGIFdr-DE3YnI20KUTdKw

[RedTeamGo!]

Wow! Schefter just reported Watson changed his mind and wants to go to Cleveland

[Kingspoint]

https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1504907130477981699?s=20&t=6nGIFdr-DE3YnI20KUTdKw

[JaxRed]

Wow! Schefter just reported Watson changed his mind and wants to go to Cleveland

Something about 230 million guaranteed changed his mind

[Kingspoint]

Cleveland definitely had the most to offer because of their quality players and contracts that can be included. Whether or not the dysfunctional HOU franchise can take advantage of what CLE ends of giving them is another matter. I doubt if they can. HOU may be the worst franchise in the NFL.

[Kingspoint]

If I were HOU, I'd have no part of Mayfield. They need to be shooting for the best QB in the draft either this year or next.

[RedTeamGo!]

Cleveland definitely had the most to offer because of their quality players and contracts that can be included. Whether or not the dysfunctional HOU franchise can take advantage of what CLE ends of giving them is another matter. I doubt if they can. HOU may be the worst franchise in the NFL.

Detroit Lions

[Kingspoint]

A private masseuse may have been included.

[RedTeamGo!]

If I were HOU, I'd have no part of Mayfield. They need to be shooting for the best QB in the draft either this year or next.

I actually think Baker is a win/win for Houston. He is from TX, he has lots of fans from that area of the country. He will sell tickets. And who knows, maybe if his shoulder has completely healed he will be effective. Worst case scenario he stinks on ice, his contract is up after this season.

[Kingspoint]

I actually think Baker is a win/win for Houston. He is from TX, he has lots of fans from that area of the country. He will sell tickets. And who knows, maybe if his shoulder has completely healed he will be effective. Worst case scenario he stinks on ice, his contract is up after this season.

I didn't realize he was an inspiring contract. That actually makes him attractive. You have to take a swing with him if it's only for one season.

[Kingspoint]

This does make CLE even money to win the Division along with the Bengals. Watson is that good, but it also depends upon what pieces are traded away, so maybe they need to wait a season before they are contenders to win the Division.

[Kingspoint]

One AFC North HC quoted, "Ughh", and an NFC GM quoted, "Glad we don't have to face him".

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Steelers are going 0-6 in the division the next several years.

[JaxRed]

Browns and Texans still are finalizing official trade compensation for Deshaun Watson, but it is expected to include three first-round picks, a third-round pick and potentially a fifth-round pick, league sources tell ESPN.


Doesn't sound like Baker going to Texans. Not sure they want him. They can see what Mills does. Browns can try to trade Baker separately.

[Kingspoint]

Kudos to the Browns.

- - - Updated - - -


Browns and Texans still are finalizing official trade compensation for Deshaun Watson, but it is expected to include three first-round picks, a third-round pick and potentially a fifth-round pick, league sources tell ESPN.


Doesn't sound like Baker going to Texans. Not sure they want him. They can see what Mills does. Browns can try to trade Baker separately.

There has to be players involved. CLE has a riches in players, but then again, this is HOU, so who knows what they will want back.

[Kingspoint]

It's not like Cleveland is on the other side of the country. He can fly in his private jet to his home in Atlanta from Cleveland in less than an hour.

[Kingspoint]

Browns and Texans still are finalizing official trade compensation for Deshaun Watson, but it is expected to include three first-round picks, a third-round pick and potentially a fifth-round pick, league sources tell ESPN.


Doesn't sound like Baker going to Texans. Not sure they want him. They can see what Mills does. Browns can try to trade Baker separately.

Well. That's a lot of picks, but I would have gone after players, too, if I was HOU.

I see the Steelers just got even worse minutes later. Juju said bye-bye. Going to KCC.

[BuckeyeRed27]

Wow! Schefter just reported Watson changed his mind and wants to go to Cleveland

Well well well

[OesterPoster]

This does make CLE even money to win the Division along with the Bengals. Watson is that good, but it also depends upon what pieces are traded away, so maybe they need to wait a season before they are contenders to win the Division.

Baltimore is better than Cleveland. And there's no guarantee that Watson is playing a full season.

[Kingspoint]

I'm going to guess that Baker Mayfield's locker has been cleaned out by now, and all images of him removed immediately everywhere.

[Kingspoint]

Baltimore is better than Cleveland. And there's no guarantee that Watson is playing a full season.

BAL has major Offensive issues. They should be much more healthy than last season, but I don't think they are better. Mayfield was that bad. If Watson plays, they are much better than BAL. Ravens won't win 10 games, even if they are healthy. They may split with the Browns, and could get sweeped by the Browns.

[BuckeyeRed27]

Baltimore is better than Cleveland. And there's no guarantee that Watson is playing a full season.

The Browns missed the playoffs by one game with no receivers and one armed Baker. Watson will probably be suspended 2-4 games and get a huge fine. I assume they’ll bring Keenum back now to hold the fort.

Ravens will certainly be better too with Jackson healthy and running backs, but they aren’t better than the Browns.

[Kingspoint]

The music stopped.

People are grabbing chairs.

[Kingspoint]

Baker Mayfield told the Browns he wants to be traded to the Colts. Do the Colts want him? Colts have a great Defense and a great running game. They can pick their QB.

[redsfandan]

One AFC North HC quoted, "Ughh", and an NFC GM quoted, "Glad we don't have to face him".

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Steelers are going 0-6 in the division the next several years.

And the AFC will have a winning record vs the NFC and win most of the Super Bowls.

[Kingspoint]

The AFC is going to beat each other up. The playoffs will be a WWW freeforall.

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Steelers will petition to move to the NFC.

[redsfandan]

And games between the Bengals and Browns will now be on national tv.

[Kingspoint]

Antonio Brown just tweeted that he wants to be a Brown.

[RedTeamGo!]

Antonio Brown just tweeted that he wants to be a Brown.

hard pass hahaha

[BuckeyeRed27]

Antonio Brown just tweeted that he wants to be a Brown.

No.

[Kingspoint]

Something about 230 million guaranteed changed his mind

Ironic that he agreed at the time of the Closing Bell on Wall Street.

[Kingspoint]

Ravens just lost Bozeman to the Panthers. They just got worse. They won't win 10 games.

[Kingspoint]

If you were the Colts, who would you want?

I'd go for Matt Ryan.

Colts also just saw Watson leave their Division.

Colts can't afford to go with anyone worse than Matt Ryan in order to compete in the playoffs. They can get there with any QB, but they'll need Ryan, and a couple of Receivers, to compete in the playoffs. They can use their 1st Rd pick on one of the many Receivers in this draft.

[RiverRat13]

Why would Watson be suspended 2-4 games? Ben was suspended for putting himself in the situation to be accused. In other words, going out and partying with underage girls. Watson supposedly went to get massages. There's nothing unseemly in that (although extremely weird to go to that many different places). Watson is either a serial sexual assaulter who deserves a lifetime ban or this was some grand conspiracy against him and he deserves nothing.

[JaxRed]

I would NOT go after Ryan if I was Colts. I don't think Ryan leaves Atlanta now. He's expensive and old. Try and fix your QB situation long term in Indy. Or get someone cheap.

[Kingspoint]

I would NOT go after Ryan if I was Colts. I don't think Ryan leaves Atlanta now. He's expensive and old. Try and fix your QB situation long term in Indy. Or get someone cheap.

They are built to win now. They aren't in rebuild.

[JaxRed]

Watson must expect to get suspended. His salary for 2022 is 1 million.

[Kingspoint]

Watson must expect to get suspended. His salary for 2022 is 1 million.

interesting

[JaxRed]

I hear Mayfield wants to go to Indy. Not sure if the interest is mutual. They just got burned by another team's reject in Wentz. I suspect Mayfield is not costing a first, though. (Not that Indy has a first).

[JaxRed]

Case Keenum traded (7th) to Buffalo. He'll now back up Allen.

[goreds2]

Would the Browns trade Mayfield within the division? (Steelers)

[JaxRed]

Would the Browns trade Mayfield within the division? (Steelers)

Steelers just signed Trubisky. They aren't going after Mayfield.

[JaxRed]

Adam Schefter
@AdamSchefter
·
18m
One day after trading for Deshaun Watson, the Browns now are expected to sign QB Jacoby Brissett to a one-year deal to be Watson’s backup, per sources.

Cleveland adding two QBs in two days.

[JaxRed]

Matthew Stafford extends

Rams and Matthew Stafford finalized a four-year, $160 million extension that includes $135 million guaranteed that should allow the veteran QB to finish his career in Los Angeles, sources tell ESPN.

[goreds2]

Steelers just signed Trubisky. They aren't going after Mayfield.

I must have been a little off the grid the past few days. Thank for the info.

[Kingspoint]

...

[WVRed]

Matt Ryan to the Colts for a third round pick.

[JaxRed]

If you were the Colts, who would you want?

I'd go for Matt Ryan.

Colts also just saw Watson leave their Division.

Colts can't afford to go with anyone worse than Matt Ryan in order to compete in the playoffs. They can get there with any QB, but they'll need Ryan, and a couple of Receivers, to compete in the playoffs. They can use their 1st Rd pick on one of the many Receivers in this draft.

Good call. Kings........

Not a move I would have made.

Edit: Colts raising his pay!!!


Fallout from the Deshaun Watson situation, with Ryan starting over in Indy. Ryan gets a contract adjustment with more guaranteed money.

[KoryMac5]

40 million dead cap hit for the Falcons...does Smith bring in Mariotta.

[JaxRed]

Fairly expensive options: Mariota, Mayfield, Jimmy G.
Maybe draft a QB at 8 and use a cheap bridge QB like Minshew

[JaxRed]

Interesting thing about Ryan's situation with Colts. This is the situation before any adjustment to his salary. The Falcons are eating 40 million. That leaves Colts with only a 23.75 million dollar hit in 2022. That's pretty reasonable. And... if they cut him after season there is zero dead cap.

It's a pretty limited risk situation for Colts. Even next year he'd be 28 million and zero dead cap after that. The absence of dead cap makes this attractive. Now watch the Colts screw this up by giving him a big raise.

[JaxRed]

Jameis is the QB in New Orleans. Not too expensive, but we are talking about Jameis.

The #Saints are re-signing QB Jameis Winston to a two-year deal with a base value of $28 million, including $21M guaranteed, sources tell me and @RapSheet.

I think Saints could be a candidate for #1 or #2 pick. This gives them a guy to watch for a year, and if he stinks, and they stink...."Hello Bryce and CJ"

[JaxRed]

Garafalo thinks Mariota in Atlanta

Mike Garafolo
@MikeGarafolo
Now watch for Marcus Mariota to the #Falcons. Sources say Atlanta is expected to pursue a reunion with Mariota and Arthur Smith, who was with Mariota during his time with the #Titans.

[Sea Ray]

What's up with the NFC giving up on so much talent and the AFC loading up? Never seen anything like this

[RichRed]

What's up with the NFC giving up on so much talent and the AFC loading up? Never seen anything like this

Not to oversimplify, but a lot of NFC teams are run by morons.

[Sea Ray]

Not to oversimplify, but a lot of NFC teams are run by morons.

OK but did they all of a sudden become morons this year? It seems like a ton has flipped from NFC to AFC in the past month