4-30-22 Reds @ Rockies 8:10 PM

[Ron Madden]

Reds
1. Tyler Naquin (L) DH
2. Kyle Farmer (R) SS
3. Tommy Pham (R) LF
4. Joey Votto (L) 1B
5. Brandon Drury (R) 2B
6. Nick Senzel (R) CF
7. Mike Moustakas (L) 3B
8. Aramis Garcia (R) C
9. Jake Fraley (L) RF
SP Connor Overton (R)


Rockies
1. Connor Joe (R) DH
2. Charlie Blackmon (L) RF
3. Randal Grichuk (R) CF
4. C.J. Cron (R) 1B
5. Ryan McMahon (L) 3B
6. Sam Hilliard (L) LF
7. Jose Iglesias (R) SS
8. Alan Trejo (R) 2B
9. Dom Nunez (L) C
SP Chad Kuhl (R)

[KeefeCato]

Ron, Who was send out for Overton?

[Ron Madden]

Ron, Who was send out for Overton?



C. Trent Rosecrans
@ctrent
Reds designate OF Aristides Aquino for assignment. Purchase the contract of RHP Connor Overton

[Tadasimha]

Wow. I honestly didn't think they'd do it.

[Rantly]

Aquino slashed .320/.391/.767 for the month of August 2019 winning player of the month. Has there ever been a player with those stats sustained for an entire month that did absolutely nothing afterwards?

[KeefeCato]

Looking at Overton in AAA he doesn't walk batters. Or at least he hasn't down there. Hopefully he pitches well and sticks in the rotation. Sanmartin and for that matter Vlad needs replaced.

[Reds Fanatic]

India just got scratched from tonight’s lineup

[Kc61]

India just got scratched from tonight’s lineup

Yeah, hamstrings can take awhile. Apparently he wasn’t moving well yesterday. I’d just IL the guy for however long it takes to fully heal.

[Ron Madden]

The Reds lineup has been edited to reflect changes.

[Ron Madden]

Charlie Goldsmith
@CharlieG__

It’s a "recovery day” for Jonathan India, per the Reds.

[TheBigLebowski]

What else? Another one of our few quality players injured.

[kaldaniels]

And it’s Sanmartin Eve.

I’m miserable.

[Wonderful Monds]

Future Reds HOFer Jose Iglesias sighting

[Ky Fried Redleg]

Future Reds HOFer Jose Iglesias sighting

For all the games we've lost before, let's all revolt and break down Bob's door.

[Ky Fried Redleg]

And it’s Sanmartin Eve.

I’m miserable.

He's been pitching like DeanMartin after too many olives.

[Ky Fried Redleg]

Good to see slick-fielding Moose, with his cat-like reflexes, back at the hot corner where he belongs.

[KeefeCato]

Yeah, hamstrings can take awhile. Apparently he wasn’t moving well yesterday. I’d just IL the guy for however long it takes to fully heal.

I noticed when he GIDP last night he wasn't running well to 1B at all.

[KeefeCato]

One thing that has actually improved greatly on this team is OF defense. But I'd still rather have Winker and Castellanos out there in the corner spots.

[JCM11]

I had a hamstring injury once and it felt fine until I tried to turn it up to 90+% and it would flare up again. It bothered me the whole year until I got a full off season to rest it. India may have to just keep it in 3rd gear and play through it or go on the IL for probably a month or so. This doesn't seem like something a few weeks off will completely heal.

[mhs95_06]

I noticed when he GIDP last night he wasn't running well to 1B at all.

Yes, I think he aggravated it then when he tried to put on a burst to beat the DP. When they need to cut the roster by 2 tomorrow, I expect he'll go to the IL and tonight's started pitcher will go back to AAA.

[RedTeamGo!]

Lebowski, X-Wing Alliancs is $3.49 on steam right now

[Tom Servo]

Naquin! :jump:

[TheBigLebowski]

Lebowski, X-Wing Alliancs is $3.49 on steam right now

IM THERE

[Tom Servo]

leadoff walk from Overton looks like he'll fit in

[Ky Fried Redleg]

leadoff walk from Overton looks like he'll fit in

Yeah, and I thought he didn't walk batters.

[KeefeCato]

leadoff walk from Overton looks like he'll fit in

He walked only 2 at Louisville. So of course he walks the leadoff batter.

[Reds Fanatic]

Nice running catch by Pham

[Ky Fried Redleg]

He walked only 2 at Louisville. So of course he walks the leadoff batter.

Probably nerves, or maybe he aggravated his groin just thinking about how sloth-like his infield defenders are.

[Reds Fanatic]

Nice inning by Overton

[malcontent]

Did India put on some weight?

[RedTeamGo!]

Is Votto the worst every day player in MLB so far?

[Reds Fanatic]

DP to end the inning. Overton looks good

[klw]

Is Votto the worst every day player in MLB so far?

He has the 6th worst OPS. The two worst are Miguel Sano and Whit Merrifield. Merrifield OPS is over .100 worse than Votto's
https://www.mlb.com/stats/?sortState=asc

[Old school 1983]

He has the 6th worst OPS. The two worst are Miguel Sano and Whit Merrifield. Merrifield OPS is over .100 worse than Votto's
https://www.mlb.com/stats/?sortState=asc

Ouch

[TheBigLebowski]

Lots of good players are off to horrible starts. Votto absolutely included.

[RedTeamGo!]

He has the 6th worst OPS. The two worst are Miguel Sano and Whit Merrifield. Merrifield OPS is over .100 worse than Votto's
https://www.mlb.com/stats/?sortState=asc

Wow!

I see Winker is sub .500 OPS as well

[Reds Fanatic]

He is out. Garcia nailed him.

[Reds Fanatic]

2nd runner thrown out by Garcia tonight

[TheBigLebowski]

Overton is a Cy Young candidate.

[Reds Fanatic]

12 Reds in a row retired since Naquin’s HR

[Ironman92]

Lol I get home, turn on game and immediately see Iglesias do his thing

[REDREAD]

I know there's not a lot of good things for the TV announcers to talk about this year, but man, I am getting tired of hearing about Farmer's bat that he hit 4 doubles with.
Yea, that's kind of rare, but it's really not that spectacular of an event.
I mean, seriously, no one is thinking.. "oh my god, I have to rush over to the Reds Hall of Fame to see the bat that Farmer hit 4 doubles with".
So I guess Farmer wanted to keep it. That's good, he's the one that should keep it.
Maybe I'm wrong, if someone else actually cares about this.. no offense.

[Ironman92]

I’ll never understand the plan of putting 1 fielder, with minimal range on one side of the field by himself and then pitching to the hitter on the side of the plate to take it that way.

[Ironman92]

I know there's not a lot of good things for the TV announcers to talk about this year, but man, I am getting tired of hearing about Farmer's bat that he hit 4 doubles with.
Yea, that's kind of rare, but it's really not that spectacular of an event.
I mean, seriously, no one is thinking.. "oh my god, I have to rush over to the Reds Hall of Fame to see the bat that Farmer hit 4 doubles with".
So I guess Farmer wanted to keep it. That's good, he's the one that should keep it.
Maybe I'm wrong, if someone else actually cares about this.. no offense.

Plz remember this team is 3-70

[Reds Fanatic]

Is it too early to call Connor Overton the staff ace

[Tadasimha]

Former Sioux City Explorer Connor Overton continues to keep the runs off the board

[Ironman92]

I know there's not a lot of good things for the TV announcers to talk about this year, but man, I am getting tired of hearing about Farmer's bat that he hit 4 doubles with.
Yea, that's kind of rare, but it's really not that spectacular of an event.
I mean, seriously, no one is thinking.. "oh my god, I have to rush over to the Reds Hall of Fame to see the bat that Farmer hit 4 doubles with".
So I guess Farmer wanted to keep it. That's good, he's the one that should keep it.
Maybe I'm wrong, if someone else actually cares about this.. no offense.

Also Joey Votto has played in 21 games and has 1 extra base hit….they could be wearing that stat out

[Reds Fanatic]

Senzel lines a single to left. 1st and 2nd

[Tadasimha]

Time to get to Kuhl and the gang

[Reds Fanatic]

Moustakas lines a single off Iglesias’ glove. Bases loaded

[Deepee57]

Once again bases loaded no outs.

[Reds Fanatic]

5-4-3 DP. Run scores 2-0 Reds

[REDREAD]

well, at this point, I'm thankful we scored a run, even if it is a DP, 2-0 Reds :)

[KeefeCato]

Do the Reds lead the majors in hitting into DP?

[Ironman92]

Atrocious AB

[Reds Fanatic]

Nice play by Drury and Overton

[Ironman92]

GREAT play by Drury! What a throw

[JohnnyBench5]

Announcer putting whammy on us..

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[Reds Fanatic]

3 Ks for Overton

[NC Reds]

Overton has earned another start. Good for him.

[JohnnyBench5]

What is the deal with Overton's number...was he a former left tackle in college?

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[REDREAD]

ok, just in case someone reads the game thread later.. they said they expect Ty Stevenson to be back Tuesday.

[Kc61]

Overton has earned another start. Good for him.

Five shutout innings at Coors, on this Reds’ staff.

Give him a five-year contract.

[Tom Servo]

the Overton window has shifted

[NC Reds]

Mousse has the mobility of a palm tree.

[kaldaniels]

Sadak earlier with the Fred Savage/Power Glove/The Wizard reference.

He’s dialed back the pop culture this year. I like that. Small doses, John.

[757690]

Overton is about to go through the Rockies lineup for a third time. I can’t remember they last time a Reds starter did that.

[Ironman92]

I hate David Bell

[Reds Fanatic]

Great start by Overton

[NC Reds]

Overton was too effective. Time for the pen.

[TheBigLebowski]

Bravo, Mr Overton!

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David Bell gonna David Bell, though.

[KeefeCato]

So they push the prize rookie having him throw 90 plus pitches. But take the scrap heap guy out with a low pitch count?

[TheBigLebowski]

Do the Reds lead the majors in hitting into DP?

No, because they so seldom have people on base, but they do take full advantage of their opportunities.

[KeefeCato]

This likely ends badly.

[Reds Fanatic]

Of course Warren starts with a 4 pitch walk

[TheBigLebowski]

How was that a ball?

[KeefeCato]

Remember when we thought the bullpen with Guys like Warren and Santillan would be improved over the mess from last year?

[RedTeamGo!]

I hate David Bell

Personally, I think he’s going to end up being a productive possession receiver for the Browns. Great hands and has a lot of good intangibles.

[NC Reds]

gO reDz

[Rowsdower]

We suck in every facet of the game

[Kc61]

Overton, Warren.

Lot of fiscal responsibility being achieved tonight.

Not a good showing so far by Warren, the closer.

[Reds Fanatic]

Ugh lead gone

[50YrRedsFan]

Understandable not to push the new kid....but this bullpen......what can you do?

[kaldaniels]

Bell’d.

[Red Raindog]

Nothing like missing every cut off man


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[RollyInRaleigh]

That looked like a bad High School team on the missed cut...sheesh.


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[Ironman92]

Good thing Rockies didn’t see Overton a 3rd time

[RollyInRaleigh]

This team is beyond bad...


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[50YrRedsFan]

This is getting better by the minute.

[JohnnyBench5]

Reds bring in reliever...poof lead gone...Bell is so good lol

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[Ironman92]

So they push the prize rookie having him throw 90 plus pitches. But take the scrap heap guy out with a low pitch count?

3rd time through….there were no other factors

Or at least none other were considered

[Reds Fanatic]

Reds losing again

[Coopdaddy67]

Welp.

[NC Reds]

That’s some impressive feat of bullpen suckery right there.

[Red Raindog]

Thanks Bob


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[REDREAD]

Warren clearly did not have it tonight, yet he's left in there to give up 2 walks, 2 doubles, only one out so far.
I know it's a long season, but they needed this win bad. Should have someone ready faster.
The lead is gone now, it's a bit too late to take him out now.
Looks like they are making the change now.

[KeefeCato]

This won't fix anything. But before the Brewer series. Fire Bell the GM The hitting coach. The pitching coach. Derek Johnson overrated.
Go to Louisville and AA and bring up 4-5 hot players and start the DFA train.
There has to be changes. The owner isn't going anywhere sadly.

[Tom Servo]

I'm starting to think this team isn't very good

[50YrRedsFan]

Reds bring in reliever...poof lead gone...Bell is so good lol

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I'm not blaming Bell.....he has nothing to work with. Not his fault ownership failed to provide REAL baseball players.

[Coopdaddy67]

Reds bring in reliever...poof lead gone...Bell is so good lol

I'm sure he'd like the option to bring in one of the Nasty Boys, but they're not down there.

[JohnnyBench5]

I'm not blaming Bell.....he has nothing to work with. Not his fault ownership failed to provide REAL baseball players.Excuses...he has no idea how to manage a BP.

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[Kc61]

I’m happy, look at all the dough Reds are saving on this bullpen.

[mth123]

Warren us a 29 YO fringe big leaguer who has been a AAA shuttle guy his entire career. Expectations for him to be a late inning stopper were always too high IMO. He's had some decent outings but overall hasn't been very good.

[KeefeCato]

I'm not blaming Bell.....he has nothing to work with. Not his fault ownership failed to provide REAL baseball players.

Not his fault. He isn't the answer either though. Changes need to be made. Nearly every team would can the manager after a start like this. Unless he had a great track record.

[TheBigLebowski]

It’s too ridiculous to even care about anymore.

[Kc61]

Warren us a 29 YO fringe big leaguer who has been a AAA shuttle guy his entire career. Expectations for him to be a late inning stopper were always too high IMO. He's had some decent outings but overall hasn't been very good.

He gets the minimum salary, mth.

[50YrRedsFan]

Shake things up...pinch hit for Votto. (almost serious)

[mhs95_06]

Reds' ugliness appears quickly in a game that was going good for a pitcher pitching the game of his life. Immobile 3B can't get to a slightly wide grounder, then pitcher gets a good routine out and still looks good. Bring in a reliever who walks the first batter then throws meatballs. Opponent ties it it on a terrible relay, then takes a 2 run lead on another meatball. Reds back to their 2022 familiar status in the game, behind late, in just a few minutes!

[KeefeCato]

Warren us a 29 YO fringe big leaguer who has been a AAA shuttle guy his entire career. Expectations for him to be a late inning stopper were always too high IMO. He's had some decent outings but overall hasn't been very good.

And there lies the problem. They get a reliever who throws the ball decent for a few games and we cling to hope that he is the answer. Because every reliever is below average.

[Tom Servo]

Warren us a 29 YO fringe big leaguer who has been a AAA shuttle guy his entire career. Expectations for him to be a late inning stopper were always too high IMO. He's had some decent outings but overall hasn't been very good.
Yeah I'd largely agree with this but he was genuinely good last year. But still it was 21 innings, that's like 1/3rd the workload of a normal reliever. Not someone the Reds should have been counting on to the degree they were, but then that's the general story of this team.

[mth123]

He gets the minimum salary, mth.

You and I understand that, but a lot of people had him in ink as a late inning stopper.

[50YrRedsFan]

Should have pinch hit.

[Coopdaddy67]

He had him guessing.

[Reds Fanatic]

Votto strikes out looking on a pitch right down the middle

[757690]

It’s too ridiculous to even care about anymore.

Wait..? People still care about the Reds?

[wally post]

This won't fix anything. But before the Brewer series. Fire Bell the GM The hitting coach. The pitching coach. Derek Johnson overrated.
Go to Louisville and AA and bring up 4-5 hot players and start the DFA train.
There has to be changes. The owner isn't going anywhere sadly.

Joey said it was embarrassing to be losing this much and I feel his pain. All the mojo of our beloved Reds is gone with the recent trades and following signings thanks to having a crap GM that is over his head and an A-hole owners group that doesn't understand the weight of their actions.

[Kc61]

Yeah I'd largely agree with this but he was genuinely good last year. But still it was 21 innings, that's like 1/3rd the workload of a normal reliever. Not someone the Reds should have been counting on to the degree they were, but then that's the general story of this team.

Reds don’t pay for relievers, so, to quote the late, great reliever, Tug McGraw, they gotta believe.

[Reds Fanatic]

Here is an idea when someone is struggling as badly as Votto maybe take him out the cleanup spot for now

[KeefeCato]

Even if they were to get more leads in games. There is not a single reliever of the 100 on the roster that could close out a game with any regularity.

[REDREAD]

Not his fault. He isn't the answer either though. Changes need to be made. Nearly every team would can the manager after a start like this. Unless he had a great track record.

I think Bell is safe, the cheapass owners are not going to eat his contract.
I'm ok with Bell this year though, no manager could make this team win.

[Ky Fried Redleg]

Mousse has the mobility of a palm tree.

Quit beating that dead horse(I mean, moose) . lol

[757690]

Warren had been very good so far this season. 6 games, 3.86 ERA, 3.10 FIP. I’m not giving up on him based on one performance at Coors Field.

[KeefeCato]

I think Bell is safe, the cheapass owners are not going to eat his contract.
I'm ok with Bell this year though, no manager could make this team win.

There is no way are they going to pay his salary this and next year plus pay his replacement. Then again they did trade for Mike Minor. So who knows?

[KeefeCato]

Warren had been very good so far this season. 6 games, 3.86 ERA, 3.10 FIP. I’m not giving up on him based on one performance at Coors Field.

The fact that he is indeed one of the better relievers is a joke though. Shows how bad this entire staff is.

[coryfly]

It isn't Bell's fault this team is bad. But even with what he has he can't manage it worth a crap. It made no sense to take him out but he did it anyway because it seems he does everything by random numbers and rules with no regard for feel or what is actually happening in the game.

[Tony Cloninger]

So Moose is actually starting in the field today? They are letting him try and play defense? Did I read that right.

And yes another Bell stupidity of going to the bullpen too fast while not going fast enough with Greene. Or is it the analysis department of the Reds with their binders who told him what to do.

[Kc61]

Warren had been very good so far this season. 6 games, 3.86 ERA, 3.10 FIP. I’m not giving up on him based on one performance at Coors Field.

They don’t have to give up on him, but they also don’t have to make him their closer/fireman.

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So Moose is actually starting in the field today? They are letting him try and play defense? Did I read that right.

And yes another Bell stupidity of going to the bullpen too fast while not going fast enough with Greene. Or is it the analysis department of the Reds with their binders who told him what to do.

Moose was at DH until India was scratched, I believe. Scratch that, not sure it’s accurate as I think about it.

[KeefeCato]

It isn't Bell's fault this team is bad. But even with what he has he can't manage it worth a crap. It made no sense to take him out but he did it anyway because it seems he does everything by random numbers and rules with no regard for feel or what is actually happening in the game.

I agree in most cases with 3rd time through the order. But not when the bullpen is horrible and taxed. I mean he should have waited till another guy reached base at least.

[Reds Fanatic]

Kuhl first time in his career going to the 8th inning. Easy to do facing the AAA Reds

[Reds Fanatic]

Garcia homers!

[Kc61]

4-3, homer for Garcia.

[TheBigLebowski]

Wait..? People still care about the Reds?

Not for much longer

[durl]

I agree in most cases with 3rd time through the order. But not when the bullpen is horrible and taxed. I mean he should have waited till another guy reached base at least.

I'm old. Pitchers used to go through the order 4-5 times. 50 years ago, pitchers would have 20 complete games. 20 years ago, they'd have 10. Now, a guy may have 2.

[TheBigLebowski]

Garcia - genuinely looks like a nice backup catcher. One positive..

[REDREAD]

wow we had no chance against that Rockies reliever (Kinley?)
Wish the Reds had a guy like that.

[gagliano]

wow we had no chance against that Rockies reliever (Kinley?)
Wish the Reds had a guy like that.

At least we get to see some real mlb pros on the other teams

[Coopdaddy67]

Great running grab.

[Reds Fanatic]

What a catch by Pham

[Kc61]

Pham is a ball player.

Trade him immediately.

[KeefeCato]

Bard will blow the save. Because he is one of my closers on my fantasy team. (I never pay for good closers.) But the Rockies will win it in the bot of the 10th. This way Bard doesn't get the save or the win.

[mth123]

Warren had been very good so far this season. 6 games, 3.86 ERA, 3.10 FIP. I’m not giving up on him based on one performance at Coors Field.

On a team trying to win, he be the 7th or 8th man in an 8 man pen.

[KeefeCato]

On a team trying to win, he be the 7th or 8th man in an 8 man pen.

Yep and on the AAA shuttle.

[NC Reds]

It’s winning time!

[757690]

All this harping about Warren is just distracting from the idocracy of Bell taking Overton out just because he was about face the Rockies lineup for the third time. That’s where my frustration is.

[Tom Servo]

All this harping about Warren is just distracting from the idocracy of Bell taking Overton out just because he was about face the Rockies lineup for the third time. That’s where my frustration is.
might as well have kept him in but I don’t have the same confidence as the rest of RZ that he was gonna keep coasting

Either way it’s Warren’s job to get outs, and he performed miserably

[Kc61]

might as well have kept him in but I don’t have the same confidence as the rest of RZ that he was gonna keep coasting

Either way it’s Warren’s job to get outs, and he performed miserably

Agree. The idea of a bullpen in a non mop-up outing is to hold down the other team.

It’s a big part of the game today for the pen to do so.

[KeefeCato]

3-18

[Kc61]

So, as April 2022 closes, the Reds have 3 wins. Night, folks.

[NC Reds]

Just brutal.

[RedTeamGo!]

Votto looks completely awful. He needs to sit for a few games.

[Red Raindog]

Votto sombrero coming?


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[Reds Fanatic]

Reds now 3-18 for the 2nd time in 5 years. Great job Castellinis

[Ky Fried Redleg]

Reds drop 5.5 games behind...



The '82 Reds !!!

[Old school 1983]

I’m a pretty big Warren advocate and he choked. But why in the world did Overton come out? He still looked good and only had thrown 70 something pitches.

[757690]

might as well have kept him in but I don’t have the same confidence as the rest of RZ that he was gonna keep coasting

Either way it’s Warren’s job to get outs, and he performed miserably

I agree it probably wouldn’t have matter much, But it’s clear that Bell took Overton out for one reason and one reason only, he was about to face the lineup for the third time. I’ve never been a fan of that kinda of dogmatic approach to anything.

[Red Raindog]

Once again
Thanks Bob


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[coryfly]

I just hated it. For the first time all year your starter has a chance to go 6 and actually looks like he is just fine doing it and you take him out because you are scared and have a stupid set of rules you go by no matter what.

[757690]

It looks like replacing Aquino with Overton was a good move, though I think if Aquino started today, he would have had more than the three K’s that Overton had.

[Ky Fried Redleg]

23-139 if they continue at this pace.

[durl]

Reds now 3-18 for the 2nd time in 5 years. Great job Castellinis

It boggles my mind that a man would be content to be so bad at owning a team.

[Ky Fried Redleg]

I just hated it. For the first time all year your starter has a chance to go 6 and actually looks like he is just fine doing it and you take him out because you are scared and have a stupid set of rules you go by no matter what.

This is what frustrates me most with Bell. He has NO feel for the flow of the game.

[Ky Fried Redleg]

It boggles my mind that a man would be content to be so bad at owning a team.

If we had his money, maybe we could understand his lack of discontent.

[durl]

23-139 if they continue at this pace.

Easily the fewest wins in the modern era. The 1916 Athletics own the fewest wins title but they had a .235 winning percentage. The Cincinnati Castellinis would love to have that winning percentage.

[Ky Fried Redleg]

I agree it probably wouldn’t have matter much, But it’s clear that Bell took Overton out for one reason and one reason only, he was about to face the lineup for the third time. I’ve never been a fan of that kinda of dogmatic approach to anything.

Yep, Bell said exactly that in the post-game interview. Also said he had no regrets about bringing in Warren.

[Stray]

I knew we'd be bad. Ownership made that much obvious. I'm kinda amazed at just how bad we are. It's borderline impressive to nail sucking so well you lose 18 of your first 21.

[Tony Cloninger]

I agree it probably wouldn’t have matter much, But it’s clear that Bell took Overton out for one reason and one reason only, he was about to face the lineup for the third time. I’ve never been a fan of that kinda of dogmatic approach to anything.

I am seeing more then a few pitchers on other teams going 7 now and throwing over 90 pitches. 3rd time through the order. Bell is being anal and obtuse while doubling down on the I don’t have any regrets over what I did. True leader here.

[LeatherPants]

I am seeing more then a few pitchers on other teams going 7 now and throwing over 90 pitches. 3rd time through the order. Bell is being anal and obtuse while doubling down on the I don’t have any regrets over what I did. True leader here.

The NL average for IP per start is currently 4.9 innings per start and the NL average for pitches per start is 81 per start.

Reds are at 4.2 and 77.

Last year the Reds led the NL at 5.3 and 90.

It's not Bell, it's the players, which means it's the front office not giving Bell the players he needs.

[wlf WV]

The NL average for IP per start is currently 4.9 innings per start and the NL average for pitches per start is 81 per start.

Reds are at 4.2 and 77.

Last year the Reds led the NL at 5.3 and 90.

It's not Bell, it's the players, which means it's the front office not giving Bell the players he needs.
Exactly, and Overton struggled the last couple innings with location . He was tiring.

[Tony Cloninger]

The NL average for IP per start is currently 4.9 innings per start and the NL average for pitches per start is 81 per start.

Reds are at 4.2 and 77.

Last year the Reds led the NL at 5.3 and 90.

It's not Bell, it's the players, which means it's the front office not giving Bell the players he needs.


I know what the average is. I just pointed out that some pitchers are being allowed to go 3 times through the order with low pitch counts. This was one of those situations where you could have avoided an unreliable bullpen. I know what their numbers were last year too. I didn’t write everyone is going 6-7 innings.

No. It’s been Bell too at times. He knows Moose can’t field but there he is. Even with India out. He’s a DH only. Votto still hitting 4th.