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Ron Madden
05-08-2022, 09:56 AM
Reds
1. TJ Friedl (L) LF
2. Brandon Drury (R) 3B
3. Mike Moustakas (L) DH
4. Tyler Stephenson (R) C
5. Tyler Naquin (L) RF
6. Kyle Farmer (R) SS
7. Colin Moran (L) 1B
8. Albert Almora Jr. (R) CF
9. Matt Reynolds (R) 2B
SP Tyler Mahle (R)

Pirates
1. Ben Gamel (L) LF
2. Bryan Reynolds (S) CF
3. Michael Chavis (R) 3B
4. Daniel Vogelbach (L) DH
5. Yoshi Tsutsugo (L) 1B
6. Diego Castillo (R) SS
7. Jack Suwinski (L) RF
8. Michael Perez (L) C
9. Cole Tucker (S) 2B
SP Zach Thompson (R)

KeefeCato
05-08-2022, 11:16 AM
Hopefully Mahle can go at least 6 good innings today. Guessing several relievers are unavailable.

KeefeCato
05-08-2022, 11:55 AM
Is 1:40 the new Sunday home game start time? Or did they back it up 30 minutes due to Mother's Day?

Kc61
05-08-2022, 12:06 PM
Pham resting, not much of a Reds’ lineup today.

Not criticizing the rest for Pham after a doubleheader.

goreds2
05-08-2022, 12:20 PM
Is 1:40 the new Sunday home game start time? Or did they back it up 30 minutes due to Mother's Day?

All Sunday home games start time is 1:40pm this season.

mth123
05-08-2022, 12:21 PM
Pham resting, not much of a Reds’ lineup today.

Not criticizing the rest for Pham after a doubleheader.

Maybe the best defensive team they have is out there now. Fredl is an improvement over Pham in LF and Reynolds at 2B and Drury at 3B is much better than Drury at 2B and Moose at 3B. The offense will be iffy no matter what until India, Votto, Senzel and Barrero return and actually hit. Farmer is a nice fill in, but I think his struggles of late have him at his real level. Reynolds is a fringe AAAA guy, Almora is a fifth OF/Defensive replacement type. So is Friedl. Drury might be the find. He's had good seasons in the past.

KeefeCato
05-08-2022, 12:24 PM
Pham may have got a little dinged up when he slipped in LF last night. Coupled with playing both games yesterday. Probably end up seeing him PH today. Hopefully not as that would mean the Reds are winning big.

TheBigLebowski
05-08-2022, 01:43 PM
Mahle over/under 4.5 strikeouts? What sayeth thee?

I’m saying over. I think he’s got a good one in store.

TheBigLebowski
05-08-2022, 01:45 PM
I like these unis.

VR
05-08-2022, 01:47 PM
Mahle over/under in innings pitched? I got 4 1/3 as the betting line.


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membengal
05-08-2022, 01:48 PM
What the hell? Where did that pitch miss? That pisses me off.

membengal
05-08-2022, 01:49 PM
Inning should be over. Now Mahle has to burn extra pitches.

TheBigLebowski
05-08-2022, 01:53 PM
Vogelbach with that pink bat/bands/gloves is an entertaining visual.

mhs95_06
05-08-2022, 01:53 PM
What the hell? Where did that pitch miss? That pisses me off.

What should have been 3 batters, 3 Ks, on 16 pitches had a walk added and 22 pitches.

KYExtemper
05-08-2022, 01:54 PM
We survived the first without giving up a run! I think that increases our win probability by at least 50%

TheBigLebowski
05-08-2022, 01:56 PM
Well done TJ

C leaves that alone, it goes foul

mhs95_06
05-08-2022, 02:00 PM
Well done TJ

C leaves that alone, it goes foul

Catcher played hero ball rather than prudent ball. Liked the hit and run there -- advanced the runner and almost resulted in a run and the batter on 2B if not for the great defensive play.

TheBigLebowski
05-08-2022, 02:03 PM
These batters are missing a lot of meat pitches. Good gravy.

TheBigLebowski
05-08-2022, 02:04 PM
Naquin whiffing on 85 mph nonsense letter high. He had 2 pitches he should have destroyed.

But, teams with guys who mash most of those generally aren’t 4-22.

membengal
05-08-2022, 02:05 PM
What should have been 3 batters, 3 Ks, on 16 pitches had a walk added and 22 pitches.

infuriating. it could not have been more clearly a strike. Ump just froze.

BCubb2003
05-08-2022, 02:07 PM
Lots of Tyling going on today. Here’s to the Tylers.

mhs95_06
05-08-2022, 02:12 PM
Mahle with a good play to force the lead runner.

VR
05-08-2022, 02:12 PM
Larkin is always vanilla….but I think he stated Mahle’s issues perfectly.


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VR
05-08-2022, 02:15 PM
Mahle pitching to Perez like he’s Barry Bonds. .555 career OpS


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TheBigLebowski
05-08-2022, 02:18 PM
That’s just bad.

Tom Servo
05-08-2022, 02:19 PM
It's kind of fitting that the Reds screwed the pooch even in terms of who they didn't dump for whatever they could get, Mahle increasingly looks like a guy a team will view as a BOR starter instead of someone worth giving up anything for.

TheBigLebowski
05-08-2022, 02:26 PM
There’s got to be a couple of teams out there with designs on competing that would give up something of value for Mahle.

There’s no reason to keep him. Hope he’s being shopped, but it’s got to be hard right now because he’s getting destroyed every time he pitches.

Kc61
05-08-2022, 02:32 PM
It's kind of fitting that the Reds screwed the pooch even in terms of who they didn't dump for whatever they could get, Mahle increasingly looks like a guy a team will view as a BOR starter instead of someone worth giving up anything for.

It’s still early in the season. Mahle is a pretty good starter who should progress to his norms or thereabouts.

It’s harder to accept some of these slow starts because the team is so weak right now.

membengal
05-08-2022, 02:34 PM
Sadak and Lark are talking like they've been into some special brownies.

KronoRed
05-08-2022, 02:37 PM
Sadak and Lark are talking like they've been into some special brownies.

Pretty rude of them not to share.

icehole3
05-08-2022, 02:41 PM
There were stories of Nuxie drinking beers during broadcasts. Not sure how true they were.

Red Raindog
05-08-2022, 02:42 PM
Pretty rude of them not to share.

We all need some special brownies

This futility of the offense is amazing


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KittyDuran
05-08-2022, 02:52 PM
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Tom Servo
05-08-2022, 02:53 PM
bro how does it take you 89 pitches to get through 4 innings against the Pirates

VR
05-08-2022, 02:53 PM
Mahle’s career progression is pointing to the bullpen. 90 pitches through 4 every single start just doesn’t make sense.


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Old school 1983
05-08-2022, 02:54 PM
Mahle may very well be pitching himself into being on the team next year.

durl
05-08-2022, 02:57 PM
1 hit today is just pitiful. My word...

Banshee
05-08-2022, 02:59 PM
1 hit today is just pitiful. My word...

Cy Thompson is a toughie.

membengal
05-08-2022, 03:00 PM
Vintage Doug Drabek out there today.

What?

I am being told that isn't Doug Drabek.

Reds Fanatic
05-08-2022, 03:03 PM
This team has one hit off Zach Thompson

Kc61
05-08-2022, 03:03 PM
Farmer and Naquin seem to swing at every pitch. Moose, for all the grief he takes, gives a decent at bat.

I wish the Reds would give more updates on when some of these injured players will come back.

Reds Fanatic
05-08-2022, 03:05 PM
Farmer now 0 for his last 31 ABs. We need Barrero healthy so much

traderumor
05-08-2022, 03:05 PM
looks like the expectation is 3 wins per month. Getting dominated by a guy starting the game with an over 10 ERA. Krall needs fired yesterday.

membengal
05-08-2022, 03:05 PM
Part of me feels like they should just let Mahle pump 130 pitches. Maybe he's old school and just wants to throw baseballs all day.

malcontent
05-08-2022, 03:05 PM
Farmer has fallen off the proverbial cliff. Trying to do too much?

Kc61
05-08-2022, 03:08 PM
Farmer has fallen off the proverbial cliff. Trying to do too much?

Just too aggressive. Constantly behind in the count. Needs to take more pitches. It’s usually an issue for Farmer, but not to this degree.

He’ll probably get going, but too late. It’s already too late.

Kc61
05-08-2022, 03:11 PM
Part of me feels like they should just let Mahle pump 130 pitches. Maybe he's old school and just wants to throw baseballs all day.

I just want Mahle’s ERA to get lower so he has trade value.

Banshee
05-08-2022, 03:14 PM
Ace Mahle at 106 pitches, only 63 strikes, probably done. Good day for him.

BCubb2003
05-08-2022, 03:24 PM
Will the Reds have a quality start this year?

Kc61
05-08-2022, 03:29 PM
Will the Reds have a quality start this year?

Sure. They have about 135 games yet to play.

- - - Updated - - -

Beautiful inning for Art Warren.

Reds Fanatic
05-08-2022, 03:39 PM
Bases loaded. No outs. Pham pinch hitting

OldFashionedRed
05-08-2022, 03:40 PM
Ace Mahle at 106 pitches, only 63 strikes, probably done. Good day for him.

Cracks me up that Reds starting pitchers can't go more than 5-6 innings. Almost 110 pitches in 5 innings. Against a below average team. Your ace. Let that sink in.

Reds Fanatic
05-08-2022, 03:42 PM
4 pitch walk to Pham. 2-1 Pirates

Wonderful Monds
05-08-2022, 03:42 PM
I forget, why has India been on the DL like almost all season again?

Wonderful Monds
05-08-2022, 03:46 PM
Former Reds legend and future HOFer Heath Hembree in the game for the Pirates

Banshee
05-08-2022, 03:47 PM
I forget, why has India been on the DL like almost all season again?

Hamstring.

757690
05-08-2022, 03:48 PM
Farmer should have taken one for the team on the first pitch.

Reds Fanatic
05-08-2022, 03:49 PM
Moran Grand Slam!!!

Wonderful Monds
05-08-2022, 03:49 PM
Wow the Pirates suck!

BCubb2003
05-08-2022, 03:49 PM
Get a Moran, brains.

Banshee
05-08-2022, 03:50 PM
MO-Ran GS, there's a hearbeat~!

membengal
05-08-2022, 03:50 PM
That’s acceptable from Moran.

757690
05-08-2022, 03:50 PM
Moran gains justice against his old team.

Kc61
05-08-2022, 03:50 PM
Sorry for that, Hembree, but we really needed that grand salami.

Banshee
05-08-2022, 03:51 PM
Hembree is the true hero here.

Patrick Bateman
05-08-2022, 03:53 PM
Definitely like hembree on the other side more


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BCubb2003
05-08-2022, 03:54 PM
Welp. That homer killed the rally.

RedsFanInMS
05-08-2022, 03:54 PM
Hembree is the true hero here.

He owed us that after his 6.38 ERA last year

Wonderful Monds
05-08-2022, 03:58 PM
Those Mother’s Day caps are terrible

Tadasimha
05-08-2022, 03:59 PM
Checked in early to see the Reds down 2-0; decide not to follow but check in again thirty mins later and they are up 5 to 2; going back to not following now.

The Operator
05-08-2022, 04:01 PM
He owed us that after his 6.38 ERA last year

I get that he flamed out pretty hard but let’s also not forget he was basically the only serviceable pitcher in last year’s bullpen for quite some time.

There’s a very real chance he flamed out due to overuse. Possibly over-exposure.


In any event, he saved our asses plenty of times before finally crashing down.

Kc61
05-08-2022, 04:02 PM
Nice day for the Mahle and Warren ERAs. Still nothing to brag about, but headed in the right direction.

Kc61
05-08-2022, 04:03 PM
I get that he flamed out pretty hard but let’s also not forget he was basically the only serviceable pitcher in last year’s bullpen for quite some time.

There’s a very real chance he flamed out due to overuse. Possibly over-exposure
In any event, he saved our asses plenty of times before finally crashing down.

Reds were a playoff contender for much of last year with Hembree, a journeyman, their closer for much of the season. Very telling about this franchise.

Hembree did his best, had some very good games. But shouldn’t have been in that role.

The Operator
05-08-2022, 04:10 PM
Reds were a playoff contender for much of last year with Hembree, a journeyman, their closer for much of the season. Very telling about this franchise.

Hembree did his best, had some very good games. But shouldn’t have been in that role.

Absolutely correct.

It was hard not to have a gnawing feeling that something was very very wrong at the top when literally every aspect of last year’s team was playoff caliber except for one - the bullpen.

We watched them lose game after game after game where they had a lead heading to the latter innings.


And ownership couldn’t be bothered to spend even a pittance on it until it was far, far too late. I knew late last season that the Castellini’s had officially jumped the shark.

Phil just proved what most of us already knew with his boorish, entitled comments on Opening Day. To hell with them.

Kc61
05-08-2022, 04:14 PM
Absolutely correct.

It was hard not to have a gnawing feeling that something was very very wrong at the top when literally every aspect of last year’s team was playoff caliber except for one - the bullpen.

We watched them lose game after game after game where they had a lead heading to the latter innings.


And ownership couldn’t be bothered to spend even a pittance on it until it was far, far too late. I knew late last season that the Castellini’s had officially jumped the shark.

Phil just proved what most of us already knew with his boorish, entitled comments on Opening Day. To hell with them.

I know I’m different from some in this view - but the Iglesias trade IMO was an awful and telling act by this team.

It showed us a few things. They were cutting payroll again. The “buildup” was over. And that the bullpen would be an area for skimping.

That’s why I was so negative at the time. I understand that Iggy had imperfections and was a one-year player. But he had a good 2020 and anchored the pen.

To this day, I don’t forgive that trade.

757690
05-08-2022, 04:16 PM
Not often you see yesterday’s starter come in to pitch the 8th inning of today’s game.

The Operator
05-08-2022, 04:17 PM
I know I’m different from some in this view - but the Iglesias trade IMO was an awful and telling act by this team.

It showed us a few things. They were cutting payroll again. The “buildup” was over. And that the bullpen would be an area for skimping.

That’s why I was so negative at the time. I understand that Iggy had imperfections and was a one-year player. But he had a good 2020 and anchored the pen.

To this day, I don’t forgive that trade.

To me it wasn’t so much about losing Iggy, he seemed genuinely miserable here and had openly pouted when not used specifically in traditional save situations.

But the fact that they did literally nothing to replace him? Yes, unforgivable indeed. And a missed playoff berth was likely the price that we paid.

757690
05-08-2022, 04:18 PM
I know I’m different from some in this view - but the Iglesias trade IMO was an awful and telling act by this team.

It showed us a few things. They were cutting payroll again. The “buildup” was over. And that the bullpen would be an area for skimping.

That’s why I was so negative at the time. I understand that Iggy had imperfections and was a one-year player. But he had a good 2020 and anchored the pen.

To this day, I don’t forgive that trade.

All what you say may be true, but I am 100% certain that Iglesias never would succeed as a member of the Reds. Too much drama, too much said by him. Getting out of Cincinnati is likely what saved his career.

BCubb2003
05-08-2022, 04:23 PM
All what you say may be true, but I am 100% certain that Iglesias never would succeed as a member of the Reds. Too much drama, too much said by him. Getting out of Cincinnati is likely what saved his career.


I feel the same way about Eugenio Suarez. A happier guy, less drama, but major frustrations. Prime candidate for a change of scenery. No matter how well he does now, there’s no reason to believe he’d do it in Cincinnati.

Kc61
05-08-2022, 04:24 PM
All what you say may be true, but I am 100% certain that Iglesias never would succeed as a member of the Reds. Too much drama, too much said by him. Getting out of Cincinnati is likely what saved his career.

Sorry, I reject this.

Iggy was second in NL fWAR of all relievers in the NL in 2020. As a Red.

He wasn’t always great for the Reds, he had off years, but was damn good.

It was a horrendous trade, a pure salary dump. And it took place when the team was supposedly going for it.

Kc61
05-08-2022, 04:26 PM
To me it wasn’t so much about losing Iggy, he seemed genuinely miserable here and had openly pouted when not used specifically in traditional save situations.

But the fact that they did literally nothing to replace him? Yes, unforgivable indeed. And a missed playoff berth was likely the price that we paid.

I disagree with this argument too. They traded one of the better relievers in baseball. They never were going to get that back. Not in the trade. And not in free agency. If they intended to have a strong closer, they simply wouldn’t have traded him.

The Iggy trade was a signal. Everything else then followed.

Kc61
05-08-2022, 04:29 PM
Um.

Colin Moran.

JCM11
05-08-2022, 04:29 PM
Everybody gets a Moran today.

Wonderful Monds
05-08-2022, 04:29 PM
You simply cannot stop Colin Moran

Reds Fanatic
05-08-2022, 04:29 PM
Moran homers again!!

HokieRed
05-08-2022, 04:32 PM
I'm starting to really like this bunch. It's going to be more fun seeing them elevate themselves out of this hole than it has been to watch a Reds team in years. The surprise of the second half.

Kc61
05-08-2022, 04:34 PM
Credit to David Bell for having the Reds play hard, and pretty solid baseball this weekend.

757690
05-08-2022, 04:35 PM
Sorry, I reject this.

Iggy was second in NL fWAR of all relievers in the NL in 2020. As a Red.

He wasn’t always great for the Reds, he had off years, but was damn good.

It was a horrendous trade, a pure salary dump. And it took place when the team was supposedly going for it.

We all know how you feel. But you’re leaving out that 2020 was a two month “season” and that Iglesias was a disaster in the playoffs.

Anyway, the Reds have a chance of winning a series today, hooray!

NatiRedGals
05-08-2022, 04:36 PM
Credit to David Bell for having the Reds play hard, and pretty solid baseball this weekend.

O yea David bell rocks not

Ironman92
05-08-2022, 04:37 PM
Easy series W

Ron Madden
05-08-2022, 04:40 PM
There's One Out!!!

Reds Fanatic
05-08-2022, 04:41 PM
Nice play by Friedl

TheBigLebowski
05-08-2022, 04:42 PM
If I just say the woooooooooord

TSST-SU-SU-SUGO

Kc61
05-08-2022, 04:42 PM
We all know how you feel. But you’re leaving out that 2020 was a two month “season” and that Iglesias was a disaster in the playoffs.

Anyway, the Reds have a chance of winning a series today, hooray!

Iglesias pitched 1.1 innings in the first playoff game against the Braves. Scoreless tie. Eight and ninth innings. No runs, four strikeouts.

Disaster?

Second game allowed two homers. Reds were already behind when he entered.

He was obviously back from his subpar 2019. They traded him anyway.

Reds Fanatic
05-08-2022, 04:44 PM
Reds win 7-3!

757690
05-08-2022, 04:44 PM
First series win today, maybe followed the first actual winning streak tomorrow with Castillo starting?

Ron Madden
05-08-2022, 04:44 PM
REDS WIN!!!

HokieRed
05-08-2022, 04:44 PM
Gotta look forward. This team's going to be fun.

TheBigLebowski
05-08-2022, 04:45 PM
Break up the Reds!!

Wonderful Monds
05-08-2022, 04:45 PM
Iglesias pitched 1.1 innings in the first playoff game against the Braves. Scoreless tie. Eight and ninth innings. No runs, four strikeouts.

Disaster?

Second game allowed two homers. Reds were already behind when he entered.

He was obviously back from his subpar 2019. They traded him anyway.

I wouldn’t say he was obviously anything. He was up and down between having bad seasons and being extremely homer prone since at least 2018.

Of all the guys they let go in the last couple years, Iglesias is the one that doesn’t bother me at all.

Wonderful Monds
05-08-2022, 04:46 PM
I'm starting to really like this bunch. It's going to be more fun seeing them elevate themselves out of this hole than it has been to watch a Reds team in years. The surprise of the second half.

Did you go hard on the mimosas for Mother’s Day brunch or….

Kc61
05-08-2022, 04:48 PM
I wouldn’t say he was obviously anything. He was up and down between having bad seasons and being extremely homer prone since at least 2018.

Of all the guys they let go in the last couple years, Iglesias is the one that doesn’t bother me at all.

Somebody thinks he’s a $58 million reliever. I guess they would disagree with you.

SomeCallMeTim
05-08-2022, 04:54 PM
Well the late, great Meatloaf said 2 outta 3 ain’t bad, but considering where this team is, it feels like a minor miracle…

Tadasimha
05-08-2022, 05:00 PM
Well the late, great Meatloaf said 2 outta 3 ain’t bad, but considering where this team is, it feels like a minor miracle…

They didn't start another losing streak after a single victory at the very least.

cobike
05-08-2022, 05:04 PM
Iglesias pitched 1.1 innings in the first playoff game against the Braves. Scoreless tie. Eight and ninth innings. No runs, four strikeouts.

Disaster?

Second game allowed two homers. Reds were already behind when he entered.

He was obviously back from his subpar 2019. They traded him anyway.

That’s how I remember it too. The Reds lost that mini-series because they had absolutely no ability to score runs. And, they had only a little ability to score that entire “season”.

HokieRed
05-08-2022, 05:05 PM
Did you go hard on the mimosas for Mother’s Day brunch or….

Wish I had, but I actually mean it. I think this team could have a pretty interesting second half if they can get some people back, and I like some of the stories on the team. Plus what's done is done. No point in lamenting past trades, especially, in my view, when most of what we traded away was actually pretty mediocre. I honestly think I'd rather watch this team than another 75 win season with last year's cast of characters performing at this year's levels.

KeefeCato
05-08-2022, 05:41 PM
Letting Iglesias go wasn't the problem. Replacing him with garbage was.

traderumor
05-08-2022, 07:36 PM
Winners of the AAAA River City Sh$&ty Showdown!!!!!

Strikes Out Looking
05-08-2022, 08:19 PM
Letting Iglesias go wasn't the problem. Replacing him with garbage was.

Too much credit given, they didn't even try to replace him.

Kc61
05-08-2022, 09:22 PM
Too much credit given, they didn't even try to replace him.

If Reds were going to replace Iglesias in kind - with another established backend reliever - they wouldn’t have traded him in the first place.

He had only one year remaining on his contract. There was no huge commitment. Any established replacement would have cost almost as much as his $9 million for 2021.

Trade was a signal they were cutting costs. And that the bullpen was an area that would absorb some of those cuts.