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Ron Madden
05-19-2022, 10:35 AM
Reds
1. TJ Friedl (L) RF
2. Brandon Drury (R) 2B
3. Tommy Pham (R) LF
4. Mike Moustakas (L) 3B
5. Tyler Stephenson (R) C
6. Tyler Naquin (L) DH
7. Colin Moran (L) 1B
8. Kyle Farmer (R) SS
9. Albert Almora Jr. (R) CF
SP Tyler Mahle (R)


Guardians
1. Myles Straw (R) CF
2. Steven Kwan (L) RF
3. Jose Ramirez (S) 3B
4. Owen Miller (R) 1B
5. Amed Rosario (R) SS
6. Franmil Reyes (R) DH
7. Andres Gimenez (L) 2B
8. Richie Palacios (L) LF
9. Austin Hedges (R) C
SP Cal Quantrill (R)

SomeCallMeTim
05-19-2022, 12:01 PM
Where’s India in his recovery?

This leadoff situation is intolerable.

KeefeCato
05-19-2022, 12:04 PM
Ron, I saw Cleveland also is using same lineup aa last night

Ron Madden
05-19-2022, 12:04 PM
The Guardians lineup has been added to the original post

JFLegal
05-19-2022, 12:07 PM
alright, let's get a win then head on north of the border where joey will rejoin the team in his hometown (which is a cool story).

Ron Madden
05-19-2022, 12:26 PM
Bobby Nightengale
@nightengalejr

Joey Votto, finishing his rehab assignment at High-A Dayton, is scheduled to play in the opener of tonight’s doubleheader.

He’s expected to rejoin the Reds in Toronto.

NebraskaRed
05-19-2022, 02:12 PM
It often seems like Friedl has no idea where the ball goes when he pops it up. He often seems like he's looking around confused.

cumberlandreds
05-19-2022, 02:17 PM
Reds out in order in the 1st.

kaldaniels
05-19-2022, 02:18 PM
I’ve got the Reds at 7-7 after they kicked Sanmartin the hell out of there.

TheBigLebowski
05-19-2022, 02:20 PM
Great grab TJ

cumberlandreds
05-19-2022, 02:25 PM
Reds out in order in the 1st.

Same for the indi.......uh.......Guardians in the 1st.

cumberlandreds
05-19-2022, 02:29 PM
TYSteve with the 1st hit of the game.

Ron Madden
05-19-2022, 02:32 PM
Today's Trivia Question:

Four players in the history of the Reds have hit 30+ Home Runs in a season as the team’s primary third baseman. Name'em

Everyone can keep guessing until the answer is given after the game

cumberlandreds
05-19-2022, 02:33 PM
Perez, Sabo and Suarez are three of them. I'll have to think some on the 4th one.

TheBigLebowski
05-19-2022, 02:34 PM
Hmm. That trivia ? is challenging

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Suarez
Sabo


Rolen never got to 30
Joe Randa popped into my head

Obviously Brandon Larson

cumberlandreds
05-19-2022, 02:36 PM
Hmm. That trivia ? is challenging

- - - Updated - - -

Suarez
Sabo


Rolen never got to 30
Joe Randa popped into my head

Obviously Brandon Larson

Well I know it ain't John Vukovich.

TheBigLebowski
05-19-2022, 02:39 PM
Molly in early trouble.

icehole3
05-19-2022, 02:40 PM
Perez, Sabo and Suarez are three of them. I'll have to think some on the 4th one.

Esasky or Johnson

TheBigLebowski
05-19-2022, 02:41 PM
He’s already thrown 27 pitches. 1 out in the 2nd. Reyes almost left the yard there.

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Toddfather? He did it.

cumberlandreds
05-19-2022, 02:43 PM
Esasky or Johnson

Esasky never hit 30. Deron Johnson could be it?

cumberlandreds
05-19-2022, 02:44 PM
The G men take a 1-0 lead after two.

TheBigLebowski
05-19-2022, 02:44 PM
Todd Frazier
Chris Sabo
Suarez
Perez

cumberlandreds
05-19-2022, 02:48 PM
Todd Frazier
Chris Sabo
Suarez
Perez

I believe you are right. I just couldn't remember Frazier hitting that many in one season.

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Reds in a hurry to get to Toronto. 1-0 Cleveland in the third.

KeefeCato
05-19-2022, 02:49 PM
Today's Trivia Question:

Four players in the history of the Reds have hit 30+ Home Runs in a season as the team’s primary third baseman. Name'em

Everyone can keep guessing until the answer is given after the game

Three for me at least were easy
Perez
Suarez
Frazier

KeefeCato
05-19-2022, 02:50 PM
Sabo I don't think ever hit 30. Around 25 was his best.

TheBigLebowski
05-19-2022, 02:51 PM
That was an easy, breezy 2nd for Quantrill.

cumberlandreds
05-19-2022, 02:56 PM
That was an easy, breezy 2nd for Quantrill.

Same for Mahle in the third.

Jaysland Red
05-19-2022, 02:57 PM
Molly in early trouble.

Good golly, miss Mahle, you sure hate a Ball

mth123
05-19-2022, 02:58 PM
Today's Trivia Question:

Four players in the history of the Reds have hit 30+ Home Runs in a season as the team’s primary third baseman. Name'em

Everyone can keep guessing until the answer is given after the game

Deron Johnson, Tony Perez, Eugenio Suarez. Not sure on the 3rd. Sabo is the obvious choice, not sure he topped teh high 20s. Nick Esasky???

Ron Madden
05-19-2022, 02:59 PM
Charlie Goldsmith
@CharlieG__

Tyler Mahle has said recently how much he wants to get back to his strengths, and he’s leaning on his fastball even more often than usual today.

He’s pitching to contact more (only one swing and miss) but it’s worked as he’s at 47 pitches through three innings.

TheBigLebowski
05-19-2022, 02:59 PM
Come on Drury.

TheBigLebowski
05-19-2022, 03:00 PM
That’ll do.

Jaysland Red
05-19-2022, 03:01 PM
I believe you are right. I just couldn't remember Frazier hitting that many in one season.

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Reds in a hurry to get to Toronto. 1-0 Cleveland in the third.

Can’t wait to see the Reds in Toronto. I washed my cap especially for this series:) The pitching match-ups look great too

mth123
05-19-2022, 03:01 PM
I see others said Todd Frazier. I think that is who I'm missing.

Perez, Johnson, Suarez, Frazier.

NebraskaRed
05-19-2022, 03:01 PM
If you're gonna try for third, don't hesitate

TheBigLebowski
05-19-2022, 03:01 PM
Mentioned a while ago I wouldn’t mind keeping Pham around next year.

Stupid freaking TOOTBLAN by Drury. Dumbbbbb

NebraskaRed
05-19-2022, 03:03 PM
More missed opportunities

TheBigLebowski
05-19-2022, 03:09 PM
Mahle with a good pitch to Miller there, behind in the count. Miller is a tough out.

cumberlandreds
05-19-2022, 03:10 PM
Another easy one for Mahle. Now lets get some runs!

KeefeCato
05-19-2022, 03:11 PM
I see others said Todd Frazier. I think that is who I'm missing.

Perez, Johnson, Suarez, Frazier.

I don't think Johnson ever hit 20 much less 30. He was more a line drive hitter.

Ron Madden
05-19-2022, 03:11 PM
Mahle is lookin good so far today!

TheBigLebowski
05-19-2022, 03:11 PM
Nice inning.

61 pitches thru 4 is extremely economical in Mahle terms.

cumberlandreds
05-19-2022, 03:12 PM
Mentioned a while ago I wouldn’t mind keeping Pham around next year.

Stupid freaking TOOTBLAN by Drury. Dumbbbbb

What does TOOTBLAN stand for? I have seen that for a while but never knew. Family friendly?

NebraskaRed
05-19-2022, 03:13 PM
What does TOOTBLAN stand for? I have seen that for a while but never knew. Family friendly?

Thrown Out on the Bases Like a Nincompoop

kaldaniels
05-19-2022, 03:13 PM
What does TOOTBLAN stand for? I have seen that for a while but never knew. Family friendly?

Thrown out on the basepaths like a nincompoop.

KeefeCato
05-19-2022, 03:13 PM
Mentioned a while ago I wouldn’t mind keeping Pham around next year.

Stupid freaking TOOTBLAN by Drury. Dumbbbbb

I do root for him. But to me it's hard to root for Pham. Keep seeing that Cardinals uni on him.
Plus this revenge tour thing is dumb. He seems all about himself and not about the team. My 2 cents. For all I know he may be one of the best teammates a player could have.

Ron Madden
05-19-2022, 03:14 PM
Naquin Goes BOOM!!!

cumberlandreds
05-19-2022, 03:15 PM
Naquin!!!!!!!!!!:jump::jump::jump::jump::jump::jum p::jump::jump::jump::jump::jump::jump::jump:

NebraskaRed
05-19-2022, 03:15 PM
That was hit hard

TheBigLebowski
05-19-2022, 03:15 PM
TY!!!

mth123
05-19-2022, 03:16 PM
I don't think Johnson ever hit 20 much less 30. He was more a line drive hitter.

Deron Johnson? Pretty sure he hit 30 in 1965 and led the league in RBI

TheBigLebowski
05-19-2022, 03:16 PM
Nice hair Tyler

TheBigLebowski
05-19-2022, 03:19 PM
What does TOOTBLAN stand for? I have seen that for a while but never knew. Family friendly?

It’s proprietary to RZ, btw.

NebraskaRed
05-19-2022, 03:19 PM
Matt Wilkes
@_MattWilkes
·

Longest opposite-field home runs by Reds hitters in the Statcast era:

1. Joey Votto, 427 feet (5/16/2017)
2. Tyler Naquin, 423 feet (today)
3. Adam Duvall, 423 feet (7/6/2017)

cumberlandreds
05-19-2022, 03:19 PM
1-1 halfway through this one.

mth123
05-19-2022, 03:20 PM
I do root for him. But to me it's hard to root for Pham. Keep seeing that Cardinals uni on him.
Plus this revenge tour thing is dumb. He seems all about himself and not about the team. My 2 cents. For all I know he may be one of the best teammates a player could have.

I have the same impression of Pham. I could care less about the cardinals thing. They are all hired guns anymore.

Umkubas
05-19-2022, 03:21 PM
I said I would not post because there are no Reds players I have seen as an amateur.

But I did see Quantrill pitch at Sunken Diamond with Blandino on third.

As Quantrill is Canadian

GO CANADA GO

GO STANFORD CARDINAL BASEBALL

mth123
05-19-2022, 03:22 PM
Almore can play defense.

Ron Madden
05-19-2022, 03:23 PM
Sweet Play Almora!!!

TheBigLebowski
05-19-2022, 03:24 PM
Is it crazy that I’m starting to think Almora is a better option than Senzel? I love watching that guy play CF. Absolutely love it.

TheBigLebowski
05-19-2022, 03:26 PM
I said I would not post because there are no Reds players I have seen as an amateur.

But I did see Quantrill pitch at Sunken Diamond with Blandino on third.

As Quantrill is Canadian

GO CANADA GO

GO STANFORD CARDINAL BASEBALL


You are conspicuous in your absence, sir. Do not be a stranger

mth123
05-19-2022, 03:26 PM
Is it crazy that I’m starting to think Almora is a better option than Senzel? I love watching that guy play CF. Absolutely love it.

Yes, its crazy. Almora is an all glove player. Senzel has upside as a hitter, but we need to see it this year.

cumberlandreds
05-19-2022, 03:26 PM
Is it crazy that I’m starting to think Almora is a better option than Senzel? I love watching that guy play CF. Absolutely love it.

As long as doesn't get injured he is.

Ron Madden
05-19-2022, 03:27 PM
Tie ballgame Reds 1 Guardians 1 after 5 innings

TheBigLebowski
05-19-2022, 03:28 PM
3 hard hit balls, but good D and some luck combine to produce a 1-2-3 inning.

Tom Servo
05-19-2022, 03:29 PM
I defend Bell on some stuff but Friedl batting leadoff and Naquin batting 6th against RH starters is insane

Ron Madden
05-19-2022, 03:32 PM
Charlie Goldsmith
@CharlieG__

David Bell said Tyler Naquin looked better at the plate on Tuesday than he had looked in any other game this year.

Naquin is hitting over .400 over the last week.

TheBigLebowski
05-19-2022, 03:32 PM
Yes, its crazy. Almora is an all glove player. Senzel has upside as a hitter, but we need to see it this year.

Senzel was at .190 or something when COVID got him. He hit, what -.240 last year before he got into a bad bunch of tootsie roll pops? I guess we can keep telling ourselves he has offensive upside, but he’s never shown it.

KeefeCato
05-19-2022, 03:36 PM
Deron Johnson? Pretty sure he hit 30 in 1965 and led the league in RBI

I had no idea.

Redsfan6272
05-19-2022, 03:37 PM
Sooo he would rather he bat 6th than leadoff or 2nd? Ugh

My copy of the post referring to Tyler Naquin hitting .400 for the week didn't post

Ron Madden
05-19-2022, 03:37 PM
Are the Guardians leading the AL in batting average at .248?

mth123
05-19-2022, 03:38 PM
Senzel was at .190 or something when COVID got him. He hit, what -.240 last year before he got into a bad bunch of tootsie roll pops? I guess we can keep telling ourselves he has offensive upside, but he’s never shown it.

agree. He needs to show it this year. The reds still have a lot of control left over him.

KeefeCato
05-19-2022, 03:39 PM
I defend Bell on some stuff but Friedl batting leadoff and Naquin batting 6th against RH starters is insane

Hopefully Friedl will be gone off the roster soon.

Redsfan6272
05-19-2022, 03:39 PM
Stupid to bat him 6th

TheBigLebowski
05-19-2022, 03:40 PM
Per baseball reference-

Senzel

-1.2 career WAR
.242 lifetime average
162 game averages: 14 HR, 55 RBI, .689 OPS.

Almora

2.7 career WAR
.266 lifetime BA
162 game averages: 8 HR, 40 RBI, .693 OPS.

Albert is 28, Nick is 26
Both 1st round draft picks

It’s pretty close.

KeefeCato
05-19-2022, 03:40 PM
agree. He needs to show it this year. The reds still have a lot of control left over him.

I think we can pretty much label Senzel a bust and move on. I expect if he gets traded he will blow up. But I don't think it's going to happen for him in Cincinnati or maybe no place.

Redsfan6272
05-19-2022, 03:41 PM
Hmm trying to Reply with post option and its not working fir me

KeefeCato
05-19-2022, 03:43 PM
Was that it for Mahle or does he start the 7th? 95 or 96 pitches.

TheBigLebowski
05-19-2022, 03:44 PM
NICE Tyler.

CySeymour
05-19-2022, 03:46 PM
Per baseball reference-

Senzel

-1.2 career WAR
.242 lifetime average
162 game averages: 14 HR, 55 RBI, .689 OPS.

Almora

2.7 career WAR
.266 lifetime BA
162 game averages: 8 HR, 40 RBI, .693 OPS.

Albert is 28, Nick is 26
Both 1st round draft picks

It’s pretty close.

Career plate appearances:
Senzel 673
Almora 1396

Tom Servo
05-19-2022, 03:46 PM
I think we can pretty much label Senzel a bust and move on. I expect if he gets traded he will blow up. But I don't think it's going to happen for him in Cincinnati or maybe no place.
Yeah I was a big Senzel guy but even I’m over him at this point. I guess get him some ABs when he’s back but he should not be any kind of priority.

KeefeCato
05-19-2022, 03:46 PM
I see others said Todd Frazier. I think that is who I'm missing.

Perez, Johnson, Suarez, Frazier.

I came up with Perez, Suarez and Frazier and I am 99% sure all three are correct. I never in a million years ever thought Johnson hit 30. But you are 100% correct on him.

Ron Madden
05-19-2022, 03:48 PM
Reds Media Relations
@RedsPR

After beginning the season with 31 games without a 6-inning start, the most since 1893,

Reds starters have thrown at least 6.0 innings in 3 straight starts and 5 of their last 6 starts

cumberlandreds
05-19-2022, 03:51 PM
Still 1-1 at the stretch.

Kc61
05-19-2022, 03:51 PM
Yeah I was a big Senzel guy but even I’m over him at this point. I guess get him some ABs when he’s back but he should not be any kind of priority.

I expect Senzel to play almost every day.

There’s no reason not to.

This year is a build toward the future, and Reds might as well see what Nick can do if he can stay on the field.

If he flames out, or gets hurt again, he’s probably gone.

TheBigLebowski
05-19-2022, 03:52 PM
Career plate appearances:
Senzel 673
Almora 1396

I don’t know what point you’re making, and I mean that honestly. Not a jerkish argument counter-post.

Senzel has more pop, but (surprisingly) Almora has hit for a better average. Those samples are similar enough in terms of BA to yield reliably predictable results.

KeefeCato
05-19-2022, 03:54 PM
I expect Senzel to play almost every day.

There’s no reason not to.

This year is a build toward the future, and Reds might as well see what Nick can do if he can stay on the field.

If he flames out, or gets hurt again, he’s probably gone.

He will play everyday when he is on the field this season. But I think they would be wise to just move on from him this offseason. Would be silly to go into next season and count on him as one of your regulars. He will never play 100 games.

cumberlandreds
05-19-2022, 03:55 PM
I have to go, so bring home a winner RZ!

CySeymour
05-19-2022, 03:55 PM
I don’t know what point you’re making, and I mean that honestly. Not a jerkish argument counter-post.

Senzel has more pop, but (surprisingly) Almora has hit for a better average. Those samples are similar enough in terms of BA to yield reliably predictable results.

my apologies. My point is that Almora has almost 1400 plate appearances, and Senzel just over a season's worth. Senzel still has some room to show he is a big league regular, but Almora has pretty much proven he isn't.

icehole3
05-19-2022, 03:57 PM
Mahle done.

Reds Freak
05-19-2022, 03:57 PM
Is it crazy that I’m starting to think Almora is a better option than Senzel? I love watching that guy play CF. Absolutely love it.

I kinda like having a glove-first CF, I think it goes along way in overall defense and helps the pitching staff. I don't like up-the-middle defensive projects, especially if they don't hit or can't stay healthy. Not saying Almora is a long-term solution, but I like watching him man center.

NebraskaRed
05-19-2022, 03:57 PM
He will play everyday when he is on the field this season. But I think they would be wise to just move on from him this offseason. Would be silly to go into next season and count on him as one of your regulars. He will never play 100 games.

It really is a shame. He seems destined to have one of those "What if?" careers. If he had been able to stay healthy, who knows what he could have done.

mth123
05-19-2022, 03:57 PM
I don’t know what point you’re making, and I mean that honestly. Not a jerkish argument counter-post.

Senzel has more pop, but (surprisingly) Almora has hit for a better average. Those samples are similar enough in terms of BA to yield reliably predictable results.

I think the point is that WAR is a counting stat, so more PAs should result in a better WAR. I think we know Almora is not the answer. Senzel still has time to become the answer, but he's running out of time. This year he gets all the PA he can get, but if he doesn't take the next step, time to phase him out of the plan the same way Aquino was phased out.

KeefeCato
05-19-2022, 03:58 PM
my apologies. My point is that Almora has almost 1400 plate appearances, and Senzel just over a season's worth. Senzel still has some room to show he is a big league regular, but Almora has pretty much proven he isn't.

Almora isn't a big league starter for sure. But, I think he is good enough to be a backup on most teams.

Strikes Out Looking
05-19-2022, 03:59 PM
my apologies. My point is that Almora has almost 1400 plate appearances, and Senzel just over a season's worth. Senzel still has some room to show he is a big league regular, but Almora has pretty much proven he isn't.

Senzel's issue isn't his playing, its his ability to play. Almora's issue is his devolution and inability to actually hit the ball on a consistent basis (if he had power, he'd be considered a regular but since his contact don't go over the wall, he's a bust).

KeefeCato
05-19-2022, 04:01 PM
First game in 7 days for Cessa. More proof they don't need all these relievers. Hopefully one gets sent down tomorrow for Joey.

TheBigLebowski
05-19-2022, 04:01 PM
my apologies. My point is that Almora has almost 1400 plate appearances, and Senzel just over a season's worth. Senzel still has some room to show he is a big league regular, but Almora has pretty much proven he isn't.

I guess the question then, statistically, is there enough variance in Nick’s sample size of 670+ ABs to suggest a larger sample might produce a significant shift in the data? I don’t see it. 670 (or whatever the exact # is) ABs spread out over parts of 4 seasons, with results in each that are relatively homogenous.

Almora’s sample is 2x the size of Nick’s, so certainly his sample is more predictive. And I doubt I’d argue that a comparison of both players’ next 1000 AB’s would at all favor Almora. I just don’t think there’s as much difference in the 2 as we might have thought.

Ron Madden
05-19-2022, 04:02 PM
Listening to Tommy Thrall and Jim Day call today's game, they are a pretty dang good broadcasting team.

NebraskaRed
05-19-2022, 04:03 PM
https://media.giphy.com/media/5xaOcLQoRXgv1d8bsSQ/giphy.gif

Hopefully not, but...

KeefeCato
05-19-2022, 04:03 PM
With 7 days off good chance Cessa will not be sharp. Relievers need to pitch a minimum of twice a week.

Ron Madden
05-19-2022, 04:04 PM
Big Out right there

KeefeCato
05-19-2022, 04:05 PM
Nice job Cessa.

Kc61
05-19-2022, 04:05 PM
He will play everyday when he is on the field this season. But I think they would be wise to just move on from him this offseason. Would be silly to go into next season and count on him as one of your regulars. He will never play 100 games.

As his arbitration salary goes up, the chances of Nick being moved increase.

But he’s only 26.

The worst thing Reds can do is be guided by the frustration caused by Nick’s injuries and absences.

It’s easy to say, “I give up” but if his baseball upside is still there, they need to act accordingly.

TheBigLebowski
05-19-2022, 04:06 PM
ˇCessa bueno!

Ron Madden
05-19-2022, 04:06 PM
Guardians strand two runners on base and we go to the 8th tied 1-1

TheBigLebowski
05-19-2022, 04:10 PM
Naquin is killing it

KeefeCato
05-19-2022, 04:12 PM
As his arbitration salary goes up, the chances of Nick being moved increase.

But he’s only 26.

The worst thing Reds can do is be guided by the frustration caused by Nick’s injuries and absences.

It’s easy to say, “I give up” but if his baseball upside is still there, they need to act accordingly.

I imagine by 30 Senzel will be out of baseball. When he has been on the field he hasn't been good at all. Guys with his numbers are usually signed by teams to minor league contracts with a invite to spring.

NebraskaRed
05-19-2022, 04:14 PM
Yes!

KeefeCato
05-19-2022, 04:14 PM
Farmer a run scoring hit. 2-1

TheBigLebowski
05-19-2022, 04:15 PM
President of the Kyle Farmer fan club.

TheBigLebowski
05-19-2022, 04:16 PM
Great bunt, then the freaking TOOTBLAN

Kc61
05-19-2022, 04:16 PM
If Reds could work out a reasonable contract for 2-3 years with Naquin, I wouldn’t mind it.

As a platoon guy, fourth OFer, whatever, he’s additive to the team IMO.

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The bunt! Pressure baseball.

KeefeCato
05-19-2022, 04:17 PM
Great bunt, then the freaking TOOTBLAN

Terrible camera work. 1B ump slowed him down going to 2b. Still not sure how close the play at 2b was.

KeefeCato
05-19-2022, 04:20 PM
A good throw might have had Farmer? But that was a big 4th run. Farmer looks like he is running in quicksand.

NebraskaRed
05-19-2022, 04:20 PM
A good throw might have had Farmer? But that was a big 4th run. Farmer looks like he is running in quicksand.

I'd like to see a footrace between him and Votto

Ron Madden
05-19-2022, 04:21 PM
No sign of the dude with the Ohio Cup obsession. :)

KeefeCato
05-19-2022, 04:22 PM
No sign of the dude with the Ohio Cup obsession. :)

He gone. But to be fair we all know the Ohio Cup is the bigger than the Lombardi trophy.

KeefeCato
05-19-2022, 04:24 PM
I'd like to see a footrace between him and Votto

The Reds have had some real burners last few years for sure. I believe Billy could start on 1b and Joey on 3rd and it would be close race to home.

TheBigLebowski
05-19-2022, 04:25 PM
Sean Casey would dust them all

Ron Madden
05-19-2022, 04:25 PM
OK! Let's Hold'em Now!!!

KeefeCato
05-19-2022, 04:27 PM
Diaz in the 8th. I'd rather see him in the 9th unless Bell plans on him pitching 2 innings.

Ron Madden
05-19-2022, 04:27 PM
Some defensive changes

Ron Madden
05-19-2022, 04:28 PM
Nice back hand by Farmer

TheBigLebowski
05-19-2022, 04:29 PM
Diaz in the 8th. I'd rather see him in the 9th unless Bell plans on him pitching 2 innings.

If he trots Warren in there I might just lose my mind.

icehole3
05-19-2022, 04:29 PM
Really like Diaz.

TheBigLebowski
05-19-2022, 04:30 PM
Me? I’d have let Cessa throw one more and use Diaz in the 9th.

icehole3
05-19-2022, 04:30 PM
Diaz will end up with the Mets, mark it down.

Tadasimha
05-19-2022, 04:30 PM
Diaz in the 8th. I'd rather see him in the 9th unless Bell plans on him pitching 2 innings.

Top of the order up; seems like a good time to bring him in

Edit: of course he immediately walks Straw after getting the first out and I comment

Ron Madden
05-19-2022, 04:31 PM
Would be a fine time for a double play

Kc61
05-19-2022, 04:31 PM
Reds pitchers walk so many guys.

TheBigLebowski
05-19-2022, 04:31 PM
Diaz will end up with the Mets, mark it down.

Nah. Edwin will come here.

KeefeCato
05-19-2022, 04:32 PM
Top of the order up; seems like a good time to bring him in

Edit: of course he immediately walks Straw after getting the first out and I comment

9, 1 ,2. I would have had him face Ramirez and Miller instead.

Kc61
05-19-2022, 04:33 PM
Nah. Edwin will come here.

I think Edwin is a free agent this off-season.

A brother act might help sell some tickets. Of course it violates the Reds’ “thou shalt not spend on relievers” commandment.

Ron Madden
05-19-2022, 04:33 PM
We really need to turn two now

KeefeCato
05-19-2022, 04:34 PM
Diaz back to back walks. For all his good stuff his is wild. Reds have zero relievers that can be trusted. Diaz just happens to be the best of a bad bunch.

JFLegal
05-19-2022, 04:34 PM
taking cessa out after just 0.2 innings and 11 pitches was incredibly dumb. then the one thing diaz cannot afford to do, he does. walks two guys to bring up ramirez with a chance to tie the game.

Kc61
05-19-2022, 04:34 PM
Reds pitchers average 4.70 walks per nine. By far the worst in MLB.

icehole3
05-19-2022, 04:34 PM
Nah. Edwin will come here.

No way.

https://i.imgur.com/ACK74vU.gif

KeefeCato
05-19-2022, 04:35 PM
I think Edwin is a free agent this off-season.

A brother act might help sell some tickets. Of course it violates the Reds’ “thou shalt not spend on relievers” commandment.

Doubt there would be many save chances next year if he was signed. If I remember right Edwin was almost ran out of N.Y. last year he was so bad.

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taking cessa out after just 0.2 innings and 11 pitches was incredibly dumb. then the one thing diaz cannot afford to do, he does. walks two guys to bring up ramirez with a chance to tie the game.

Yes it was. Guy hadn't pitched in 7 days. So not like he was overused.

TheBigLebowski
05-19-2022, 04:37 PM
Ohhh. That was a strike

Ron Madden
05-19-2022, 04:38 PM
Ohhh. That was a strike

Sure looked like a strike to me! The ump has called that pitch a strike a couple times today

Kc61
05-19-2022, 04:38 PM
Doubt there would be many save chances next year if he was signed. If I remember right Edwin was almost ran out of N.Y. last year he was so bad.

No, that was 2019. Diaz’ first year with the Mets was awful.

He’s been solid since then. Would be the ace of the current Reds’ pen, no doubt.

icehole3
05-19-2022, 04:38 PM
That was right on the bone.

TheBigLebowski
05-19-2022, 04:40 PM
This has the makings of some heroic drama.

Ron Madden
05-19-2022, 04:41 PM
What the heck just happened?

NebraskaRed
05-19-2022, 04:41 PM
What in the world did Friedl do

icehole3
05-19-2022, 04:41 PM
What was that Moose?

JFLegal
05-19-2022, 04:41 PM
my god moose, all you had to do was knock that down

TheBigLebowski
05-19-2022, 04:41 PM
OMG.

JFLegal
05-19-2022, 04:42 PM
What in the world did Friedl do

luckily it had no impact on the play, kwan would have been at third regardless. but yeah, that was bad.

NebraskaRed
05-19-2022, 04:42 PM
Moose and Friedl combined to make that a complete mess

TheBigLebowski
05-19-2022, 04:42 PM
Ladies & Gentlemen, your 2022 Cincinnati Reds.

icehole3
05-19-2022, 04:42 PM
My Granny could've knocked that down in her wheelchair.

Ron Madden
05-19-2022, 04:43 PM
Moose nor Friedl played that very well

Kc61
05-19-2022, 04:44 PM
Not that easy a play for first baseman, sharply hit ball. Would have taken a good play.

icehole3
05-19-2022, 04:45 PM
Moose nor Friedl played that very well

Beer league move by Moose.

Ron Madden
05-19-2022, 04:46 PM
There's that double play!!!

NebraskaRed
05-19-2022, 04:46 PM
Nice!

icehole3
05-19-2022, 04:46 PM
Nice

JFLegal
05-19-2022, 04:46 PM
santillan to the rescue!

do not take him out bell!

TheBigLebowski
05-19-2022, 04:47 PM
Tony Tone Toni has done it again

kaldaniels
05-19-2022, 04:48 PM
Tony Tone Toni has done it again

Feels good.

JFLegal
05-19-2022, 04:49 PM
Feels good.

yeah

Ron Madden
05-19-2022, 04:50 PM
One more time before the answer comes after the game



Today's Trivia Question:

Four players in the history of the Reds have hit 30+ Home Runs in a season as the team’s primary third baseman. Name'em

Ron Madden
05-19-2022, 04:53 PM
Here We Go!

Tadasimha
05-19-2022, 04:54 PM
All right; put these guys ouy of our misery, Reds!

Ron Madden
05-19-2022, 04:55 PM
There's One Out!

Ron Madden
05-19-2022, 04:57 PM
There's Two Outs!!

icehole3
05-19-2022, 04:57 PM
One more time before the answer comes after the game

Doggie
Johnson
Frazier
Geno

TheBigLebowski
05-19-2022, 04:58 PM
Santillian looks so filthy when he’s on.

Ron Madden
05-19-2022, 04:59 PM
REDS WIN!!!

kaldaniels
05-19-2022, 04:59 PM
8-7 post-Sanmartin.

Tom Servo
05-19-2022, 05:01 PM
we’re still good :beerme:

Sea Ray
05-19-2022, 05:01 PM
It'd sure be nice if the schedule makers could work out an odd number of games between these two teams

RedsFanInMS
05-19-2022, 05:01 PM
Take that you stupid Guardians!

TheBigLebowski
05-19-2022, 05:03 PM
18332

Ron Madden
05-19-2022, 05:03 PM
Today's Trivia Question:

Four players in the history of the Reds have hit 30+ Home Runs in a season as the team’s primary third baseman. Name'em

Answer
Deron Johnson
Tony Perez
Todd Frazier
Geno Suarez

TheBigLebowski
05-19-2022, 05:05 PM
It'd sure be nice if the schedule makers could work out an odd number of games between these two teams

The fans now will not have a true winner of The Ohio Cup, and that is tragic

kaldaniels
05-19-2022, 05:06 PM
18332

I just Youtube’d the video and can’t get the 90’s stench off me.

(I also forgot the “uh, uh, baby” part…sexy!)

NC-Red
05-19-2022, 05:06 PM
cleveland!!! Go reds!!!

Ron Madden
05-19-2022, 05:10 PM
I think Sam LeCure will take Chris' place with Sadak in Toronto over the weekend

Tony Cloninger
05-19-2022, 05:13 PM
Why have 14 pitchers when you cannot find a way to use them enough. Just a question that never gets answered. Reds aren’t the only team either.

TheBigLebowski
05-19-2022, 05:17 PM
I just Youtube’d the video and can’t get the 90’s stench off me.

(I also forgot the “uh, uh, baby” part…sexy!)

Want to have a good cringe? Listen to the lyrics. They’re not horribly offensive, but they’re sooooo poorly written. Juvenile.

Ron Madden
05-19-2022, 05:18 PM
Why have 14 pitchers when you cannot find a way to use them enough. Just a question that never gets answered. Reds aren’t the only team either.


Its a safety issue because of the shortened three week spring training they say.

Ron Madden
05-19-2022, 05:23 PM
Charlie Goldsmith
@CharlieG__

Tyler Naquin has won the Ohio Cup Frank Robinson Most Outstanding Player award.

In the 4-game series vs the Guardians, he went 8-for-15 with 2 doubles, 3 HR, 4 RBI and 7 runs scored.

texasdave
05-19-2022, 05:24 PM
I have not read through this thread, but why isn't Jeff Hoffman pitching lately? He has been very good this season.

Tony Cloninger
05-19-2022, 05:25 PM
Its a safety issue because of the shortened three week spring training they say.

Yes I know why they did it. And then extended it. However I don’t think it’s needed at this point. To the detriment of this already talent lacking bullpen.

TheBigLebowski
05-19-2022, 05:29 PM
I have not read through this thread, but why isn't Jeff Hoffman pitching lately? He has been very good this season.

You know why. Hoff hasn’t wanted to be hassled.

Tony Cloninger
05-19-2022, 05:30 PM
I have not read through this thread, but why isn't Jeff Hoffman pitching lately? He has been very good this season.

See the same issue with Cessa. Santillan. Lack of work now that the starters have gone more than 5 innings lately. They are not behind. Hoffman is going to be rusty soon too. Maybe it’s all teams but Bell uses who he deemed were the late inning closers. Performance be damned for at least the first month. That’s why you see Warren used more than he should in high leverage situations. Hoffman is the long man type. Or we need someone to eat innings when we’re behind.

durl
05-19-2022, 05:33 PM
HAHAHAHAHAHA. OWNED. Reds are the Indians minor league affiliates. Can we rename the Cincinnati Reds to the Cleveland Indians south?

Anyone heard from this kid from a couple days ago? :D

Ron Madden
05-19-2022, 05:40 PM
I have not read through this thread, but why isn't Jeff Hoffman pitching lately? He has been very good this season.

https://www.baseball-almanac.com/players/pitchinglogs.php?p=hoffmje02&y=2022

Hoffman game log for May

05-03-2022 at Brewers 1.2 IP

05-07-2022 vs Pirates 1.1 IP

05-09-2022 vs Brewers 1.0 IP

05-11-2022 vs Brewers 2.0

05-14-2022 at Pirates 1.0

April 12.2 IP

Ron Madden
05-19-2022, 05:42 PM
Anyone heard from this kid from a couple days ago? :D

Yep, Post # 180 of this thread

durl
05-19-2022, 06:08 PM
Yep, Post # 180 of this thread

I missed that! :laugh:

Ky Fried Redleg
05-19-2022, 06:14 PM
I defend Bell on some stuff but Friedl batting leadoff and Naquin batting 6th against RH starters is insane

From the talk by some on here, Bell doesn't make these decisions. We read on RZ all the time that the higher-ups determine who plays, how often they play, where they play, when they play, etc... I personally think Bell determines these things(as he should) but I may be wrong.

Tom Servo
05-19-2022, 06:19 PM
From the talk by some on here, Bell doesn't make these decisions. We read on RZ all the time that the higher-ups determine who plays, how often they play, where they play, when they play, etc... I personally think Bell determines these things(as he should) but I may be wrong.
I’ve always figured lineups are one thing managers still get some leeway on. Really in general I don’t worry much about batting order other than the very obvious point that your best hitters should be at the top of the lineup to get more ABs. And so Friedl #1 and Naquin #6 is just a blatant example of ignoring that.

Old school 1983
05-19-2022, 06:25 PM
One more time before the answer comes after the game

Frazier
Perez
Suarez
Johnson.

Larkin90
05-19-2022, 06:26 PM
Today's Trivia Question:

Four players in the history of the Reds have hit 30+ Home Runs in a season as the team’s primary third baseman. Name'em

Answer
Deron Johnson
Tony Perez
Todd Frazier
Geno Suarez

I was thinking that either Willie Greene or Edwin Encarnacion might have done it, but turns out they maxed out with 27 & 26 respectively.

Ky Fried Redleg
05-19-2022, 06:29 PM
The fans now will not have a true winner of The Ohio Cup, and that is tragic

And the NC guy's life is ruined for another year!!!

mth123
05-19-2022, 07:10 PM
I think Sam LeCure will take Chris' place with Saddam in Toronto over the weekend

Best Autocorrect ever.

kaldaniels
05-19-2022, 07:15 PM
Best Autocorrect ever.

Welsh unvaxxed?

Ron Madden
05-19-2022, 07:20 PM
Best Autocorrect ever.

Hate when this happens to me :redface:

mth123
05-19-2022, 07:22 PM
Hate when this happens to me :redface:

Stuff like that happens to me all the time. I'm imagining Lecure announcing with Saddam.

Ron Madden
05-19-2022, 07:27 PM
Stuff like that happens to me all the time. I'm imagining Lecure announcing with Saddam.

A friend told me Sam LeCure would be in the booth this weekend in Toronto. Didn't say if he would work radio or television

kaldaniels
05-19-2022, 07:37 PM
Welsh did tweet in 3/2021 he was vaxxed. :thumbup:

cumberlandreds
05-19-2022, 08:42 PM
cleveland!!! Go reds!!!

Well that should do it for you in 2022 since the Reds have finished with Cleveland for the 2022 season. Have a nice fall, winter and spring.

cumberlandreds
05-19-2022, 08:47 PM
Series sweep!https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/815sXBUFZnL._SY500_.jpg Another good starting pitching performance as well good bullpen performance. Great job by Santillan! I was listening to the game going home and I was pretty worried when they brought him in. But he did a terrific job. Also I'll add Tommy Thrall and Jim Day are really good together on the radio. Very good chemistry between the two.

On to Toronto. IIRC in the past the Reds have gotten throttled up there. Maybe they can turn it around this time.

KeefeCato
05-19-2022, 09:38 PM
Well that should do it for you in 2022 since the Reds have finished with Cleveland for the 2022 season. Have a nice fall, winter and spring.

Nothing left for him to see. Lombardi err Ohio cup is done for the year.

KeefeCato
05-19-2022, 09:44 PM
And the NC guy's life is ruined for another year!!!

Post of the day we'll done. I spit my drink out.

Rantly
05-19-2022, 09:57 PM
I was thinking that either Willie Greene or Edwin Encarnacion might have done it, but turns out they maxed out with 27 & 26 respectively.

Surprised Willie hit that many! Unleashed potential.

KYExtemper
05-19-2022, 10:22 PM
Hey, another series win! I'll take it! Need more of these to gradually grind our way back.

HokieRed
05-19-2022, 11:37 PM
Going to be a very interesting second half. I like this team.

Kingspoint
05-20-2022, 04:43 AM
Wow!!!!!

7 out of 9 with the only losses being both by just a run, where we rallied with 3 in the 8th to get close in one and no-hit the other team in the other to lose a heartbreaker.

These no-name guys don't know they are supposed to lose. They have nothing to lose and are playing their hearts out and having fun. Got to give credit to the Manager here, whether you like it or not.

Jaysland Red
05-20-2022, 10:58 AM
Series sweep!https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/815sXBUFZnL._SY500_.jpg Another good starting pitching performance as well good bullpen performance. Great job by Santillan! I was listening to the game going home and I was pretty worried when they brought him in. But he did a terrific job. Also I'll add Tommy Thrall and Jim Day are really good together on the radio. Very good chemistry between the two.

On to Toronto. IIRC in the past the Reds have gotten throttled up there. Maybe they can turn it around this time.

Yes, you are right. The Reds are 2-7 lifetime in Toronto and I’ve been at all the games. These are the scores (W is a Jays win):

H 2017/05/31 Toronto Blue Jays 5 - Cincinnati Reds 4 W
H 2017/05/30 Toronto Blue Jays 6 - Cincinnati Reds 4 W
H 2017/05/29 Toronto Blue Jays 17 - Cincinnati Reds 2 W
H 2009/06/25 Toronto Blue Jays 5 - Cincinnati Reds 7 L
H 2009/06/24 Toronto Blue Jays 8 - Cincinnati Reds 2 W
H 2009/06/23 Toronto Blue Jays 7 - Cincinnati Reds 5 W
H 2008/06/26 Toronto Blue Jays 7 - Cincinnati Reds 1 W
H 2008/06/25 Toronto Blue Jays 5 - Cincinnati Reds 6 (10) L
H 2008/06/24 Toronto Blue Jays 14 - Cincinnati Reds 1 W

There were a few first inning Reds pitching meltdowns in there, including by the usually dependable Aaron Harang.

cumberlandreds
05-20-2022, 11:07 AM
Yes, you are right. The Reds are 2-7 lifetime in Toronto and I’ve been at all the games. These are the scores (W is a Jays win):

H 2017/05/31 Toronto Blue Jays 5 - Cincinnati Reds 4 W
H 2017/05/30 Toronto Blue Jays 6 - Cincinnati Reds 4 W
H 2017/05/29 Toronto Blue Jays 17 - Cincinnati Reds 2 W
H 2009/06/25 Toronto Blue Jays 5 - Cincinnati Reds 7 L
H 2009/06/24 Toronto Blue Jays 8 - Cincinnati Reds 2 W
H 2009/06/23 Toronto Blue Jays 7 - Cincinnati Reds 5 W
H 2008/06/26 Toronto Blue Jays 7 - Cincinnati Reds 1 W
H 2008/06/25 Toronto Blue Jays 5 - Cincinnati Reds 6 (10) L
H 2008/06/24 Toronto Blue Jays 14 - Cincinnati Reds 1 W

There were a few first inning Reds pitching meltdowns in there, including by the usually dependable Aaron Harang.

I think I remember Bronson Arroyo getting smashed in one of those big losses.

Jaysland Red
05-21-2022, 12:46 PM
I think I remember Bronson Arroyo getting smashed in one of those big losses.

Yes, that’s right. I know he’s not that popular with a lot of people on this site but I always liked watching him pitch.

Kingspoint
05-23-2022, 01:05 AM
I think I remember Bronson Arroyo getting smashed in one of those big losses.

Yeah, that was the first thing I thought of. What was it, like two outs, 9 runs, all earned, also in May?

cumberlandreds
05-23-2022, 07:39 AM
Yeah, that was the first thing I thought of. What was it, like two outs, 9 runs, all earned, also in May?

I looked it up. It was 10 runs on 11 hits in one full inning.

Jaysland Red
05-23-2022, 12:18 PM
I looked it up. It was 10 runs on 11 hits in one full inning.

Be careful what you go to look up…..you might find it! I spent years keeping that particular memory under lock and key. I will send my therapy bill to you soon:)

Ky Fried Redleg
05-23-2022, 01:38 PM
Yes, that’s right. I know he’s not that popular with a lot of people on this site but I always liked watching him pitch.

I was amazed that Bronson was able to get anyone out with the junk he threw up there. But he did. He carved out a very nice major league career for himself. The guy was extemely intelligent, knew his craft, and got big league hitters out with his guile and little else. He was fun to watch. In my opinion he would make an outstanding big league pitching coach.

KeefeCato
05-23-2022, 03:58 PM
I was amazed that Bronson was able to get anyone out with the junk he threw up there. But he did. He carved out a very nice major league career for himself. The guy was extemely intelligent, knew his craft, and got big league hitters out with his guile and little else. He was fun to watch. In my opinion he would make an outstanding big league pitching coach.

The last Reds game I have been able to attend due to health trouble (Back trouble) Makes it too hard to make the 2 hour 30 min or so trek. Last game was Arroyo's last ML game. Vs. The Dodgers. I told my buddie before the first pitch that this would be his last game. Watching his previous starts was easy to predict he was done. Thankfully I got to see Arroyo win several games that I attended.
Soto 7
Seaver 6
Harang 6
Gullett 6
Most wins on games I attended. I scored every game. Even as a 8 year old.
Arroyo 6
Gullett was 6-0.