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Ron Madden
05-24-2022, 03:33 PM
Reds
1. Tyler Naquin (L) RF
2. Brandon Drury (R) 2B
3. Tommy Pham (R) LF
4. Joey Votto (L) 1B
5. Tyler Stephenson (R) C
6. Mike Moustakas (L) DH
7. Nick Senzel (R) CF
8. Colin Moran (L) 3B
9. Matt Reynolds (R) SS
SP Tyler Mahle (R)

Cubs
1. Christopher Morel (R) 2B
2. Rafael Ortega (L) CF
3. Seiya Suzuki (R) RF
4. Ian Happ (S) LF
5. Frank Schwindel (R) DH
6. Patrick Wisdom (R) 3B
7. Alfonso Rivas (L) 1B
8. P.J. Higgins (R) C
9. Andrelton Simmons (R) SS
SP Marcus Stroman (R)

KeefeCato
05-24-2022, 03:41 PM
I noticed most times the first game of a series. The Reds lineup is being released later than games 2,3 or 4.
That pretty much confirms the lineup for the entire series is made out 3 hours or so before first pitch of the first series game.

Ron Madden
05-24-2022, 03:55 PM
Bobby Nightengale
@nightengalejr

Wade Miley will be honored before tonight’s Reds-Cubs game and presented with the team’s 2021 Most Outstanding Pitcher award.


The Reds today transferred the rehab assignment of OF Jake Fraley from Class A Dayton to Triple-A Louisville.

KeefeCato
05-24-2022, 03:59 PM
Of all the moves they made the Miley move still looks idiotic. It wouldn't have looked as bad had they not traded for a lesser version of Miley in Minor.

Ron Madden
05-24-2022, 04:25 PM
The Cubs lineup has been added to the original post

Ron Madden
05-24-2022, 04:39 PM
Charlie Goldsmith
@CharlieG__

David Bell says Jonathan India is another 10 days to two weeks away from starting a rehab assignment. He’s doing baseball activities, but his hamstring isn’t fully healed.


Bobby Nightengale
@nightengalejr

Mike Minor is scheduled to make his next (and possibly last) rehab start at Triple-A Louisville on Thursday. He’s expected to throw 80 pitches

Redsfan6272
05-24-2022, 04:41 PM
Thought they might ride Aquino's hot bat

KeefeCato
05-24-2022, 05:22 PM
Thought they might ride Aquino's hot bat

They should have. Won't see him though till next time they face a LHP most likely. Pham could use a day off. There are ways to keep Aquino in the lineup at least semi regular till he cools off .
Not just the 2 HR game either. The guy was mashing AAA as well. He may sit for 7-10 days.Be cold as ice by then.LHP isn't that plentiful.

Kc61
05-24-2022, 05:43 PM
They should have. Won't see him though till next time they face a LHP most likely. Pham could use a day off. There are ways to keep Aquino in the lineup at least semi regular till he cools off .
Not just the 2 HR game either. The guy was mashing AAA as well. He may sit for 7-10 days.Be cold as ice by then.LHP isn't that plentiful.

Lots of guys mash AAA. We’ve seen Aquino before.

Reds face a lefty on Thursday. Justin Steele.

KeefeCato
05-24-2022, 06:02 PM
Lots of guys mash AAA. We’ve seen Aquino before.

Reds face a lefty on Thursday. Justin Steele.

I was thinking Steele was a LH. That's good for Aquino. Nobody thinks Aquino will produce long term. But they changed his stance in AAA back to his old stance and the results are there.
He did it once before for a short time. Not impossible he could put up a big month stretch again.
I say play him till he cools off. They have nothing to lose. Pham is not exactly ripping the ball. Wouldn't hurt for him to sit tonight. And I highly doubt Senzel will play Wed night game and turn around a play a day game Thursday.
All I am saying is give him 5-6 straight days of playing time and see what happens. Not like they would be sitting a all star Caliber bat to get him in the lineup for a week.
If he goes 1-25 with 20 Ks. Like he very well could then just bench him or pull the plug for good.
Most teams with a linup the caliber of the Reds would absolutely be playing the hot hand. They wouldn't worry about what hand the opponent pitcher throws with.

Kc61
05-24-2022, 06:33 PM
I was thinking Steele was a LH. That's good for Aquino. Nobody thinks Aquino will produce long term. But they changed his stance in AAA back to his old stance and the results are there.
He did it once before for a short time. Not impossible he could put up a big month stretch again.
I say play him till he cools off. They have nothing to lose. Pham is not exactly ripping the ball. Wouldn't hurt for him to sit tonight. And I highly doubt Senzel will play Wed night game and turn around a play a day game Thursday.
All I am saying is give him 5-6 straight days of playing time and see what happens. Not like they would be sitting a all star Caliber bat to get him in the lineup for a week.
If he goes 1-25 with 20 Ks. Like he very well could then just bench him or pull the plug for good.
Most teams with a linup the caliber of the Reds would absolutely be playing the hot hand. They wouldn't worry about what hand the opponent pitcher throws with.

All because of one game. Two swings.

Let’s forget the 49% K rate and 4% walk rate. Against RHP this year a 53% K rate, last year 44%.

Aquino will play against the lefty on Thursday. Maybe he’ll pinch hit against a lefty tonight or tomorrow. That’s enough for this series.

Ron Madden
05-24-2022, 07:23 PM
Joel Luckhaupt
@jluckhaupt

Over his last 3 starts, Tyler Mahle has a 2.60 ERA and a .136 batting average against.

Only Sandy Alcantara's .133 average against is lower in the NL during that span.

Going back to last season, Tyler Mahle has allowed 4 home runs over his last 13 starts,
which is the fewest HR he's allowed over any 13-start stretch of his career.

Ron Madden
05-24-2022, 07:43 PM
The original post has been edited to reflect Cubs lineup change

757690
05-24-2022, 07:50 PM
Reds are down 1-0 in the top of the first, but they struck out Ian Happ, so I already consider today a victorious day for the Reds.

NebraskaRed
05-24-2022, 07:52 PM
3-0

Sassy Sal
05-24-2022, 07:53 PM
Mahle...ugh

JFLegal
05-24-2022, 07:54 PM
that was a classic GABP home run. how many other MLB parks does that make it out of? zero?

but still, mahle is complete trash at home. both things are true.

Tom Servo
05-24-2022, 07:54 PM
this is bc I slagged Schwindel yesterday. He is pretty lousy though, more of an indictment of Mahle.

NebraskaRed
05-24-2022, 07:55 PM
I am 100% convinced that when Mahle is traded, he will pitch a complete game shutout in his first start with the new team.

JFLegal
05-24-2022, 07:55 PM
anyone else planning on going to thursday's businessman's special with hunter greene on the mound? rain in the forecast. if the game is on, i'll be there.

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this is bc I slagged Schwindel yesterday. He is pretty lousy though, more of an indictment of Mahle.

he did barrel it i guess, but man that was a weak HR all things considered. a double in every other park but ours

TheBigLebowski
05-24-2022, 07:57 PM
Mahle needs to be moved. Hes a batting tee in the park in which he pitches half his games.

JFLegal
05-24-2022, 07:57 PM
i need to meet some of you studs. come to the game on thursday. i'll buy you a beer.

single for naquin

Sassy Sal
05-24-2022, 07:58 PM
i need to meet some of you studs. come to the game on thursday. i'll buy you a beer.

single for naquin

I would, but I doubt any good seats are available ;)

JFLegal
05-24-2022, 07:58 PM
I would, but I doubt any good seats are available ;)

lmaoooo!

Redsfan6272
05-24-2022, 07:59 PM
Mahle just can't pitch at home well.. sucks but they better move him before Castillo

NebraskaRed
05-24-2022, 07:59 PM
Quite a strikezone today

JFLegal
05-24-2022, 08:00 PM
drury single, first and third, no outs

757690
05-24-2022, 08:00 PM
Similar start to the Reds first as the Cubs first. Let’s hope it has similar results.

JFLegal
05-24-2022, 08:01 PM
this is why the "human element" guys are so wrong. no, umpires should not be able to invent their own strike zone. this guy is calling everything that is clearly a strike high in the zone a ball ... and is calling everything barely wide of the plate a strike.

JFLegal
05-24-2022, 08:02 PM
joey votto singles in a run!

Ron Madden
05-24-2022, 08:03 PM
Joey RBI Single!!!

Red Raindog
05-24-2022, 08:03 PM
That actually looked like a great Votto swing

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JFLegal
05-24-2022, 08:04 PM
tysteve bangs an RBI single!

NebraskaRed
05-24-2022, 08:05 PM
You got a hit. And you get a hit. Not you, Pham. And you get a hit!

Redsfan6272
05-24-2022, 08:05 PM
I think it's time to put Votto back to batting 3rd and Tyler 4th..pham needs moved down . I don't care if he hits the ball hard. An out is an out no matter what

JFLegal
05-24-2022, 08:06 PM
c'mon goose

VR
05-24-2022, 08:08 PM
It is mind boggling that TySteve regularly bats 5th.

CesarGeronimo
05-24-2022, 08:09 PM
I am 100% convinced that when Mahle is traded, he will pitch a complete game shutout in his first start with the new team.
You may be right, but he's a bonehead and that is limiting him.

Tom Servo
05-24-2022, 08:11 PM
heck of an AB by Moose, shame about the result

Red Raindog
05-24-2022, 08:11 PM
Lots of pitches for Stroman


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Tom Servo
05-24-2022, 08:13 PM
looked pretty good off the bat but sub-warning track power there by Senzel

traderumor
05-24-2022, 08:14 PM
35 minute inning

Sassy Sal
05-24-2022, 08:17 PM
I don't understand why they have so much trouble with the pitch calling system. It's not exactly earth shattering technology. Makes me wonder how badly they could flub the automated strike zone system.

membengal
05-24-2022, 08:21 PM
sigh.

NebraskaRed
05-24-2022, 08:21 PM
What in the world...

Red Raindog
05-24-2022, 08:22 PM
Did someone say Mahle is a bonehead?


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757690
05-24-2022, 08:22 PM
Oy vey

membengal
05-24-2022, 08:22 PM
gonna need some benny hill music apparently

NebraskaRed
05-24-2022, 08:24 PM
I think we can all agree that this is a strong start from Mahle

traderumor
05-24-2022, 08:25 PM
Mahle got nothing tonight.

JFLegal
05-24-2022, 08:26 PM
did mahle think the count was 0-2 when it was 3-2? what the hell kind of a terrible pitch was that? not just the location (which was awful) but the decision to throw that type of pitch 3-2. awful

JFLegal
05-24-2022, 08:30 PM
not exactly tyler MDMA.

not feeling ecstatic

Sassy Sal
05-24-2022, 08:30 PM
Pushing 50 pitches in 2 whole innings. This guy just can't figure it out. I think he would do well to seek a trade and get a different perspective on things.

JFLegal
05-24-2022, 08:30 PM
his gangster name would be tylee nibbles

Red Raindog
05-24-2022, 08:32 PM
What an ugly but lucky inning from Mahle


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Ron Madden
05-24-2022, 08:32 PM
Today's Trivia Question:

Since 1989 Six different Reds Outfielders have hit multiple HRs & had an assist in the same game.
Name'em

JFLegal
05-24-2022, 08:33 PM
What an ugly but lucky inning from Mahle


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in his defense, that first inning HR was nonsense and would only be a HR in our t-ball park. but that said, he definitely needs to be more aggressive out there.

JFLegal
05-24-2022, 08:34 PM
Today's Trivia Question:

Since 1989 Six different Reds Outfielders have hit multiple HRs & had an assist in the same game.
Name'em

davis
dunn
griffey
cameron
castellanos
sanders

Redsfan6272
05-24-2022, 08:35 PM
I was already getting tired of Mahle's slow start to the year but his self-imposed absence from Toronto now has me getting madder at him faster. Can we trade this guy already?

Mahle pitched the game ag Cleveland the day before going to Toronto. He would not have pitched any of those games

JFLegal
05-24-2022, 08:39 PM
naquin needs to take his daily dose of HGH. how was that not a homer?

Ron Madden
05-24-2022, 08:40 PM
gonna need some benny hill music apparently

Yackety Sax
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=QDnvE7oNQJo

JFLegal
05-24-2022, 08:43 PM
tyler c'mon

Old school 1983
05-24-2022, 08:48 PM
davis
dunn
griffey
cameron
castellanos
sanders

Aquino did it last night I’m pretty sure.

JFLegal
05-24-2022, 08:48 PM
mahle is a trainwreck at home

Old school 1983
05-24-2022, 08:48 PM
Seems like Mahle is doing his best to be in the 2023 rotation.

JFLegal
05-24-2022, 08:49 PM
Aquino did it last night I’m pretty sure.

knew there had to be a current example. lol. just did it real quick off top of my head. no way i got it right.

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meatball mahle? timid tyler?

RedTeamGo!
05-24-2022, 08:53 PM
Sooooooooooo Mahle kinda sucks

TheBigLebowski
05-24-2022, 08:54 PM
Value is low. Get him a couple of nice starts, then send him seaworthy.

RedTeamGo!
05-24-2022, 08:55 PM
Mahle needs to be moved. Hes a batting tee in the park in which he pitches half his games.

I said it all offseason

Ky Fried Redleg
05-24-2022, 08:55 PM
Today's Trivia Question:

Since 1989 Six different Reds Outfielders have hit multiple HRs & had an assist in the same game.
Name'em



Aquino

Paul O'Neill

Kc61
05-24-2022, 08:55 PM
Seems like Mahle is doing his best to be in the 2023 rotation.

You know it won’t work. He’ll just be traded away for less.

Tony Cloninger
05-24-2022, 08:56 PM
Mahle pitched the game ag Cleveland the day before going to Toronto. He would not have pitched any of those games


Thats not the point. And you knew that already but just in case.

Tony Cloninger
05-24-2022, 08:58 PM
Aquino did it last night Im pretty sure.


Rolando Roomes? Reggie Taylor? Willy Mo Mighty Young Pea?

RedTeamGo!
05-24-2022, 08:59 PM
Id figure out a way for Mahle to pitch only on the road from this point on to the trade deadline, hope his numbers improve dramatically, and trade him

VR
05-24-2022, 08:59 PM
Mahle is on pace for a 12/9 K/AB ratio.....so, that's awesome.

klw
05-24-2022, 09:10 PM
Both Stroman and Nibbles (not Votto's horse) with 74 pitches to get through 3 innings,

klw
05-24-2022, 09:12 PM
Nibbles k's Morel to add to his pool of strikeouts of players named after mushrooms

NebraskaRed
05-24-2022, 09:19 PM
Jeff Wallner
@JeffWallner

Barrero and Fraley, both rehabbing at Louisville, hit back-to-back HR in the seventh inning tonight. #Reds

membengal
05-24-2022, 09:27 PM
is schwindel from middletown?

Tony Cloninger
05-24-2022, 09:32 PM
Time for the Barrero 15 years at SS career.

NebraskaRed
05-24-2022, 09:33 PM
Truly bad start from Mahle

membengal
05-24-2022, 09:35 PM
still with the yakkety sax

Sassy Sal
05-24-2022, 09:36 PM
Oh my God. This is some team we've got here.

SomeCallMeTim
05-24-2022, 09:37 PM
Cessa, the Fire Marshall Bill of firemen.

https://media1.giphy.com/media/bN7fr2dGqyZuU/giphy.gif

Tom Servo
05-24-2022, 09:38 PM
I miss the pitching in Toronto

NebraskaRed
05-24-2022, 09:39 PM
Come back to us, 2021 Cessa, wherever you are

Kc61
05-24-2022, 09:40 PM
Horrendous. Just end this season already.

Ron Madden
05-24-2022, 09:41 PM
Time for the Barrero 15 years at SS career.

Here's a BARRERO BOMB!
https://mobile.twitter.com/LouisvilleBats/status/1529251379625213957?cxt=HHwWioCy7eCB_7gqAAAA

NebraskaRed
05-24-2022, 09:43 PM
Cessa has now given up 7 earned runs in his last 6 appearances.

Tony Cloninger
05-24-2022, 09:55 PM
Come back to us, 2021 Cessa, wherever you are


So I will go the FCB route here and say Cessna is hurt. He’s clearly crashing.

Redsfan6272
05-24-2022, 09:59 PM
saw Doc's article saying good thing we are not the Cubs.. okay.. who is beating our butts?

TheBigLebowski
05-24-2022, 09:59 PM
Wretched. Holy poo.

Tony Cloninger
05-24-2022, 10:01 PM
Kuehnel looks good again. Until he gets bombed when he’s moved to a high leverage situation.

NebraskaRed
05-24-2022, 10:02 PM
Is that the worst start Mahle has ever had?

Nevermind, there was a worse start in 2019 vs. the Brewers

Tom Servo
05-24-2022, 10:19 PM
Is that the worst start Mahle has ever had?

Nevermind, there was a worse start in 2019 vs. the Brewers
Nah he’s had several blowups where he’s allowed 8-9 runs

NebraskaRed
05-24-2022, 10:20 PM
I'd like to see a position player pitch tonight. Why not. Let's see Pham pitch.

LeatherPants
05-24-2022, 10:23 PM
Come back to us, 2021 Cessa, wherever you are

A 2021 Toyota Cessa? Comes fully loaded, along with a tow package. I can get you into one for 10% under sticker.

adkindo
05-24-2022, 10:40 PM
Stephenson is really slow

TheBigLebowski
05-24-2022, 10:41 PM
So in addition to all the other wondrous things we’ve seen from this iteration of YOUR CINCINNATI REDS, we now witnessed Tyler Mahle go full Eric Milton. What a time to be alive.

NebraskaRed
05-24-2022, 10:42 PM
Reynolds pitching has been the only good thing about this game.

Ironman92
05-24-2022, 10:43 PM
Im still kinda in shock by the bunt to Votto and how that went

NebraskaRed
05-24-2022, 10:45 PM
Mahle watched Reynolds pitch and thought, how did he do that?

LeatherPants
05-24-2022, 10:46 PM
Stephenson is really slow

Catching does bad things to the human body.

malcontent
05-24-2022, 10:48 PM
So in addition to all the other wondrous things we’ve seen from this iteration of YOUR CINCINNATI REDS, we now witnessed Tyler Mahle go full Eric Milton. What a time to be alive.
If they were to move one of the two, I was for keeping him and moving Castillo. But now he's pitching like he just wants out.

I will miss the endearing way he hangs his head IN RESIGNATION and TOTAL DEFEAT with each 94-mph heater that he gets up just enough to wind up in the Griffey Right Field first row seats.

NebraskaRed
05-24-2022, 10:49 PM
Senzel gets his first hit since coming back

NebraskaRed
05-24-2022, 10:51 PM
Senzel stumbled around third. Probably shattered both ankles.

Ron Madden
05-24-2022, 10:55 PM
Have I ever mentioned just how much I hate losing to the Cubs?

50YrRedsFan
05-24-2022, 10:55 PM
Senzel stumbled around third. Probably shattered both ankles.

The Reds stumble around the ballpark nightly.

Ron Madden
05-24-2022, 11:00 PM
Today's Trivia Question:

Since 1989 Six different Reds Outfielders have hit multiple HRs & had an assist in the same game.
Name'em

Answer to Today's Trivia Question
Adam Dunn 3x,
Jay Bruce 2x,
Aquino,
Ken Griffey Jr,
Josh Hamilton,
& Wily Mo Pea

LeatherPants
05-24-2022, 11:01 PM
On the plus side, the universe will eventually collapse in on itself so this one loss means very little overall.

RedTeamGo!
05-24-2022, 11:25 PM
Having a hard time caring tonight

kaldaniels
05-25-2022, 01:50 AM
On the plus side, the universe will eventually collapse in on itself so this one loss means very little overall.

And it will begin again, and collapse again and on and on until we are exactly right back at this very moment. Mark your calendars.

CaiGuy
05-25-2022, 08:30 AM
Is that the worst start Mahle has ever had?

Nevermind, there was a worse start in 2019 vs. the Brewers

I was privileged to see this beautiful day of baseball in person last year.

https://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/CIN/CIN202105200.shtml

NebraskaRed
05-25-2022, 02:23 PM
Last night was the most runs he has given up in any start. He was coming off of 3 good starts before that debacle last night.