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Ron Madden
06-11-2022, 12:34 PM
Reds
1. Nick Senzel (R) CF
2. Brandon Drury (R) 3B
3. Tommy Pham (R) LF
4. Joey Votto (L) DH
5. Kyle Farmer (R) SS
6. Matt Reynolds (R) 2B
7. Colin Moran (L) 1B
8. Albert Almora Jr. (R) RF
9. Chris Okey (R) C
SP Hunter Greene

Cardinals
1. Tommy Edman (S) SS
2. Nolan Gorman (L) DH
3. Paul Goldschmidt (R) 1B
4. Nolan Arenado (R) 3B
5. Tyler O'Neill (R) LF
6. Brendan Donovan (L) 2B
7. Dylan Carlson (S) RF
8. Yadier Molina (R) C
9. Harrison Bader (R) CF
SP Adam Wainwright (R)

757690
06-11-2022, 01:18 PM
Congratulations to Chris Okey on his first MLB start!

Ron Madden
06-11-2022, 02:03 PM
Mark Sheldon
@m_sheldon

Big age gap in opposing pitchers today.
When 40-year-old Adam Wainwright was drafted in the 1st round of the 2000 MLB Draft by the Braves, 22-year-old Hunter Greene was less than a year old. Greene was born 8/6/99.

Ron Madden
06-11-2022, 02:08 PM
Mark Sheldon
@m_sheldon

A couple of pregame tidbits:
Joey Votto is a career .317 hitter with a 1.039 OPS and 4 homers vs. Wainwright in 60 ABs.

Votto is slashing .355/.474/.774 (11-for-31) 3 HR, 12 RBIs during his current 9-game hit streak.

SomeCallMeTim
06-11-2022, 02:35 PM
Congratulations to Chris Okey on his first MLB start!

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TheBigLebowski
06-11-2022, 02:48 PM
The long-awaited debut of Łber-prospect Chris Okey, who will be catching some other farmhand named Green.

Nick Senzel is back from his most recent bout with rheumatoid arthritis with a side of whooping cough and a hyperextended r mandible. We’re all wishing him well.

Should be a fun one.

texasdave
06-11-2022, 02:53 PM
The long-awaited debut of Łber-prospect Chris Okey, who will be catching some other farmhand named Green.

Nick Senzel is back from his most recent bout with rheumatoid arthritis with a side of whooping cough and a hyperextended r mandible. We’re all wishing him well.

Should be a fun one.

All I need is "hurt back swinging weighted bat" to have a winning card at NickSenzelInjuryBingo.com.

SomeCallMeTim
06-11-2022, 02:54 PM
The long-awaited debut of Łber-prospect Chris Okey, who will be catching some other farmhand named Green.

Nick Senzel is back from his most recent bout with rheumatoid arthritis with a side of whooping cough and a hyperextended r mandible. Weíre all wishing him well.

Should be a fun one.

Iíll take Senzel in a body cast over Friedl at leadoff.

RedTeamGo!
06-11-2022, 02:59 PM
I feel like Okey wouldn’t have gotten this chance in any other organization. It’s difficult to perform as badly as he did at the minor league level for as many years as he did. Most orgs would have cut him. His 2017, 2018, and 2019 were terrible.

podgejeff_
06-11-2022, 03:01 PM
I'm glad Senzel is back for a few games before he's hurt by a barometric pressure drop at the ballpark.

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I feel like Okey wouldn’t have gotten this chance in any other organization. It’s difficult to perform as badly as he did at the minor league level for as many years as he did. Most orgs would have cut him. His 2017, 2018, and 2019 were terrible.

He's a catcher that got a sizeable bonus. He'll probably have a 10 year career.

Kc61
06-11-2022, 03:27 PM
Cards catchers do an excellent job of snapping the pitch back into the strike zone.

I guess many catchers do it, but seems to work well for them.

NebraskaRed
06-11-2022, 03:27 PM
Mark Sheldon
@m_sheldon

Reds claimed OF Stuart Fairchild off waivers from Arizona and optioned him to Louisville. RHP James Marinan was DFA'd. Fairchild was originally in the Reds organization and traded to the D-Backs with Josh VanMeter for reliever Archie Bradley in 2020.

Now trade Fairchild to the Angels for Bradley

icehole3
06-11-2022, 03:28 PM
88mph slider back foot

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99 outside corner geez

Reds Fanatic
06-11-2022, 03:34 PM
Greene strikes out the side

icehole3
06-11-2022, 03:34 PM
Greene may have his no hit stuff today.

podgejeff_
06-11-2022, 03:34 PM
Absolute filth. Once he puts everything together, he's going to be scary.

KeefeCato
06-11-2022, 03:34 PM
88mph slider back foot

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99 outside corner geez

Greene will win a Cy Young one day maybe multiple ones. If injuries don't derail him.

NebraskaRed
06-11-2022, 03:35 PM
Cardinals announcers got very excited by Edmond's 9 pitch AB and then kind of mumbled about Greene striking out the side

Ky Fried Redleg
06-11-2022, 03:43 PM
Greene may have his no hit stuff today.

Barring injury, the guy will throw a couple of them before he hanggs up his cleats.

Reds Fanatic
06-11-2022, 03:46 PM
4 Ks for Greene

icehole3
06-11-2022, 03:47 PM
97 high outside corner

757690
06-11-2022, 03:49 PM
I feel like Okey wouldnít have gotten this chance in any other organization. Itís difficult to perform as badly as he did at the minor league level for as many years as he did. Most orgs would have cut him. His 2017, 2018, and 2019 were terrible.

Catchers are a rare commodity. If Okey is solid defensively, he would stay in any organization no matter how well he hit.

icehole3
06-11-2022, 03:49 PM
98 in on the hands my lord

KeefeCato
06-11-2022, 03:55 PM
Going to be lucky to get 5 innings out of Greene today. Over 40 pitches through 2.

podgejeff_
06-11-2022, 03:55 PM
Greene needed that one pitch out. Cards have done a good job fighting in the box.

Reds Fanatic
06-11-2022, 03:55 PM
Molina flies out and we are through 2 scoreless

757690
06-11-2022, 03:59 PM
Chris Okey - 1.000 lifetime OBP

NebraskaRed
06-11-2022, 03:59 PM
Okey HBP in his first major league AB

Also, Cardinals announcers seem to think that pitch #3, which was almost in the dirt, should have been strike 3.

TheBigLebowski
06-11-2022, 04:00 PM
Wainwright sending a message. We’re not afraid of your mashers.

Reds Fanatic
06-11-2022, 04:02 PM
Drury doubles 2nd and 3rd

podgejeff_
06-11-2022, 04:03 PM
Phamtastic. A double brings in two runs.

SomeCallMeTim
06-11-2022, 04:03 PM
Okey wearing Fiskís number from his Chisox days.

Reds Fanatic
06-11-2022, 04:03 PM
Pham doubles in 2 runs! 2-0 Reds

NebraskaRed
06-11-2022, 04:03 PM
2-0

TheBigLebowski
06-11-2022, 04:04 PM
Sorry bout that Veronica…PHAMMY

icehole3
06-11-2022, 04:04 PM
Reds own Wainwright.

SomeCallMeTim
06-11-2022, 04:05 PM
OK Joseph D, lets make it 3.

Reds Fanatic
06-11-2022, 04:07 PM
Farmer singles in a run. 3-0 Reds

SomeCallMeTim
06-11-2022, 04:07 PM
Farmer singles in a run. 3-0 Reds

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Ky Fried Redleg
06-11-2022, 04:08 PM
Same ol' same ol' for Wainy against the Reds...

podgejeff_
06-11-2022, 04:11 PM
For all of his problems, Senzel really plays a good CF for a converted infielder.

podgejeff_
06-11-2022, 04:14 PM
Nice easy inning for Greene. Maybe he goes 6.

RedTeamGo!
06-11-2022, 04:16 PM
The Farm Dawg gets so many clutch hits

kaldaniels
06-11-2022, 04:19 PM
After that record breaking “he threw the most 100mph pitches” game, Greene had a bit of a hiccup but has been dominant since he dialed it back to 97/98 it seems.

podgejeff_
06-11-2022, 04:22 PM
How was that a strike?

Kc61
06-11-2022, 04:23 PM
How was that a strike?

Senzel seems to get a lot of bad strike calls. Probably needs to swing a little earlier rather than take borderline pitches.

TheBigLebowski
06-11-2022, 04:23 PM
Senzel is boring.

icehole3
06-11-2022, 04:27 PM
Perfect pitch to Goldy.

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Hunter dialed it up to Goldy and Arenado good work.

podgejeff_
06-11-2022, 04:32 PM
Triple digit gas inside and Donovan had nothing.

icehole3
06-11-2022, 04:32 PM
Nasty

Banshee
06-11-2022, 04:32 PM
Greene's pretty good.

Kc61
06-11-2022, 04:33 PM
Agree with Reds’ announcers that Okey looking good defensively.

icehole3
06-11-2022, 04:33 PM
Cards gotta be thinking we can get that bullpen.

TheBigLebowski
06-11-2022, 04:34 PM
Hunter’s got it working. Love watching him when he’s on.

kaldaniels
06-11-2022, 04:35 PM
The front office needs to make these Greene years count.

I’d be fine in a playoff game with him starting against anyone, right now. He may be the underdog but he can go toe to toe with anyone when locked in.

SomeCallMeTim
06-11-2022, 04:35 PM
I have this sickening feeling this is going to be a repeat of Thursday.

I hope not, but I have zero faith ths BP can hold a lead greater than 5.

kaldaniels
06-11-2022, 04:38 PM
I have this sickening feeling this is going to be a repeat of Thursday.

I hope not, but I have zero faith ths BP can hold a lead greater than 5.

I actually feel good. Cards are kinda sleepwalking. We can win this.

TheBigLebowski
06-11-2022, 04:40 PM
Votto has had some bad swings today, but luckily he got enough of that one.

Tom Servo
06-11-2022, 04:40 PM
The Farm Dog is determined to NEVER let Barrero take his job

podgejeff_
06-11-2022, 04:42 PM
Feels like we should really have more than 3 runs right now.

NebraskaRed
06-11-2022, 04:43 PM
Feels like we should really have more than 3 runs right now.

Too many holes in the lineup

podgejeff_
06-11-2022, 04:43 PM
The Farm Dog is determined to NEVER let Barrero take his job

I think Farmer could be a supersub and still get starter minutes just fine. He can even spell the catcher's spot.

We need to see what we have in Barrero.

Tom Servo
06-11-2022, 04:44 PM
I think Farmer could be a supersub and still get starter minutes just fine. He can even spell catcher.

We need to see what we have in Barrero.
I'm with you.

podgejeff_
06-11-2022, 04:47 PM
Greene hitting 102 after 80 pitches.

He's just a freak athlete.

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Also, watching Molina fail and get mad will never get old for me.

SomeCallMeTim
06-11-2022, 04:49 PM
I'm with you.

Me three.

icehole3
06-11-2022, 04:49 PM
Over matched

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Nice job

Kc61
06-11-2022, 04:50 PM
If Farmer is the super sub, who’s the third baseman?

Moose or is he a DH?

Drury? Is he better than Farmer all around? Maybe Drury is the super sub.

If Drury continues to hit, can he play LF?

Or do Reds trade most of them?

Or does Barrero move to CF?

Lot of questions.

NebraskaRed
06-11-2022, 04:54 PM
I think I remember some people here saying the Cardinals announcers were good, but to me they are the worst kind of homer. Every single thing the Cardinals do is the greatest.

podgejeff_
06-11-2022, 04:57 PM
If Farmer is the super sub, who’s the third baseman?

Moose or is he a DH?

Drury? Is he better than Farmer all around? Maybe Drury is the super sub.

If Drury continues to hit, can he play LF?

Or do Reds trade most of them?

Or does Barrero move to CF?

Lot of questions.

Drury/Moose/Farmer when he subs the spot. Solano when he gets back. Possibly McClain when he comes up. Matt Reynolds when India's back. Lots of options.

Drury's probably getting traded.

We have no shortage of infielders.

757690
06-11-2022, 04:58 PM
I think I remember some people here saying the Cardinals announcers were good, but to me they are the worst kind of homer. Every single thing the Cardinals do is the greatest.

Cards radio announcers have always been strong, smart and fair. Their TV announcers have always been the worst kind of homers.

SomeCallMeTim
06-11-2022, 04:59 PM
I think Farmer could be a supersub and still get starter minutes just fine. He can even spell the catcher's spot.

We need to see what we have in Barrero.

Also need to drop the Drury signing talk. If youíre going to keep, sign, extend anyone, then it should be Farmer.

He could spell every infield position and DH and get 5 starts a week. I keep him in that role over Senzel in a heartbeat.

Tom Servo
06-11-2022, 05:01 PM
can't stand Tommy Edman

icehole3
06-11-2022, 05:02 PM
Might be Greene's last batter

kaldaniels
06-11-2022, 05:03 PM
Might be Greene's last batter

Should be with Goldy lurking.

Kc61
06-11-2022, 05:03 PM
Diaz pitched two innings and threw 31 pitches on Thursday. He’s now warming again. And entering.

This is the hidden disaster of a lousy bullpen.

SomeCallMeTim
06-11-2022, 05:05 PM
From the A train to theÖ

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Reds Fanatic
06-11-2022, 05:13 PM
Whew that was close. Senzel caught it a the wall . 3-1 Reds

kaldaniels
06-11-2022, 05:15 PM
How can you watch close pitches continuously be called wrong in big situations and not want a consistent robo ump?

Coopdaddy67
06-11-2022, 05:16 PM
Great job by Diaz getting out of that with a multi-run lead.

OldFashionedRed
06-11-2022, 05:16 PM
How can you watch close pitches continuously be called wrong in big situations and not want a consistent robo ump?

Would not surprise me a bit if these umps KNOW their time is up (unless they want to ump in the minors or even lower than that), so they're just going through the motions, recalling grudges.

Reds Fanatic
06-11-2022, 05:16 PM
Good job by Diaz to get out of that

50YrRedsFan
06-11-2022, 05:20 PM
Time for Senzel to be at the bottom of the order.

icehole3
06-11-2022, 05:21 PM
Wainwright got every call today.

SomeCallMeTim
06-11-2022, 05:23 PM
Time for Senzel to be at the bottom of the order.

I think its time for him to be on another roster.

OldFashionedRed
06-11-2022, 05:23 PM
Time for Senzel to be at the bottom of the order.

He's the epitome of blown chances. Sorry, love his effort in the field, but good/great fielders are a dime a dozen.

Ky Fried Redleg
06-11-2022, 05:24 PM
*** SCOREBOARD STUMPER***

Since 1970, there have been eight(8) players who have won five or more Gold Glove awards while playing for either the Reds or the Cardinals. How many can you name???

SomeCallMeTim
06-11-2022, 05:24 PM
Wainwright got every call today.

And in other news, water is still wet. [emoji1787]

SomeCallMeTim
06-11-2022, 05:27 PM
*** SCOREBOARD STUMPER***

Since 1970, there have been eight(8) players who have won five or more Gold Glove awards while playing for either the Reds or the Cardinals. How many can you name???

Concepcion, Morgan, Bench, Ozzie Smith, Keith Hernandez, Molina.

NebraskaRed
06-11-2022, 05:28 PM
Cardinals attempted to murder the Reds best player, Colin Moran

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I'm glad the Cardinals keep hitting grounders to Lopez so he can practice throws to first.

Joeyjection19
06-11-2022, 05:31 PM
Drury-Lopez-Farmer-Reynolds-Okey may be the worst infield I've ever seen from the Reds. I'm happy to be proven wrong.

icehole3
06-11-2022, 05:34 PM
Drury-Lopez-Farmer-Reynolds-Okey may be the worst infields I've ever seen from the Reds. I'm happy to be proven wrong.

Reynolds easily the worst.

Reds Fanatic
06-11-2022, 05:34 PM
Big DP to end the inning

RedForLife
06-11-2022, 05:34 PM
Now, that was a gift!

NebraskaRed
06-11-2022, 05:35 PM
Never doubted Cessa for a second...

50YrRedsFan
06-11-2022, 05:35 PM
Cessa lucky there. Perfect dp grounder.

NebraskaRed
06-11-2022, 05:40 PM
Kyle Fourmer

Reds Fanatic
06-11-2022, 05:40 PM
4 hit day for Farmer

50YrRedsFan
06-11-2022, 05:41 PM
Greene with 7 k's while throwing near 100 mph. Wainwright with 7 k's while throwing near 89 mph. Amazing

Reds Fanatic
06-11-2022, 05:42 PM
Reynolds singles to center 1st and 2nd

Reds Fanatic
06-11-2022, 05:44 PM
Lopez singles in a run. 4-1 Reds!

herbdizzle
06-11-2022, 05:46 PM
*** SCOREBOARD STUMPER***

Since 1970, there have been eight(8) players who have won five or more Gold Glove awards while playing for either the Reds or the Cardinals. How many can you name???

Scott Rolen?

NebraskaRed
06-11-2022, 05:46 PM
Horrible bunt attempt

OldFashionedRed
06-11-2022, 05:47 PM
Why even bunt there?

Dawink
06-11-2022, 05:51 PM
I think I remember some people here saying the Cardinals announcers were good, but to me they are the worst kind of homer. Every single thing the Cardinals do is the greatest.

As I watch my beloved Reds here in Missouri and am FORCED to listen to these arrogant óó! Call a game I can assure you, if you had to watch them for every Reds/Cards game you would LONG for Sadak and anyone else!! I cannot stand them. It kills them to say anything good about the Reds, itís always how the Cardinals couldnít take advantage of so and so. Ugggh canít stand them.


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Ron Madden
06-11-2022, 05:52 PM
Whew that was close. Senzel caught it a the wall . 3-1 Reds







Charlie Goldsmith
@CharlieG__

The Cardinals had the bases loaded with one out in the sixth. Nick Senzel saved the inning for the Reds with a leaping catch at the wall on a sac fly, and Alexis Diaz only allowed one run.

50YrRedsFan
06-11-2022, 05:53 PM
Hunter (regular or ethyl) Strickland in.

icehole3
06-11-2022, 05:54 PM
No lead is safe.

NebraskaRed
06-11-2022, 05:54 PM
Hunter (regular or ethyl) Strickland in.

https://media.giphy.com/media/akEU7rAoKJbbO/giphy.gif

TheBigLebowski
06-11-2022, 05:55 PM
Bell’s really going to go back to Toni Tone Tony again in the 9th, isn’t he??

Bumfuzzling.

icehole3
06-11-2022, 05:56 PM
Hunter (regular or ethyl) Strickland in.

Strickland is what I keep in my trunk just in case I run out of gas.

OldFashionedRed
06-11-2022, 05:56 PM
Cessa and Strickland.

NebraskaRed
06-11-2022, 05:57 PM
Other than Diaz, everyone in the bullpen makes me incredibly nervous.

LeatherPants
06-11-2022, 05:59 PM
Bell’s really going to go back to Toni Tone Tony again in the 9th, isn’t he??

Bumfuzzling.

It’s not like he has a lot of options out there. Problem with having cheap idiots in charge.

KeefeCato
06-11-2022, 05:59 PM
Strickland was a solid pitcher till he signed with the Reds. I thought it was a solid signing. He has been decent of late after being horrible to start the year. It seems like no matter who they pickup for the pen end up being awful the minute they sign them.

NebraskaRed
06-11-2022, 06:02 PM
Arenado is so good.

KeefeCato
06-11-2022, 06:03 PM
4-3 Now.

Reds Fanatic
06-11-2022, 06:03 PM
Now 4-3. Bullpen about to blow another game.

OldFashionedRed
06-11-2022, 06:04 PM
But we got guys up there patiently waiting to swing at something six inches off the plate. Credit due to Arenado.

50YrRedsFan
06-11-2022, 06:05 PM
The Reds ship is circling the drain.

TheBigLebowski
06-11-2022, 06:05 PM
It’s not like he has a lot of options out there. Problem with having cheap idiots in charge.

We know this is a lost season. Diaz has been one of the very few bright spots. Let him close. Take his lumps and pitch in hi-lev situations.

And besides, we know Santillan cannot do it. There’s no value to putting him out there again.

SomeCallMeTim
06-11-2022, 06:05 PM
Maybe this team has their high leverage arms mixed up.

We get 2 scoreless BP innings last night when weíre behind but Strickland and Santillan canít hold a lead.

Kc61
06-11-2022, 06:06 PM
Strickland was a solid pitcher till he signed with the Reds. I thought it was a solid signing. He has been decent of late after being horrible to start the year. It seems like no matter who they pickup for the pen end up being awful the minute they sign them.

Strickland was good with the Giants but thatís a few years ago. Since then heís bounced around from team to team.

The Reds signed him around March 22. Ask yourself why he was still available at that point in the off-season.

They look for the cheapest guys who donít have a deal at the very end. Similar to the Doolittle signing, another very good reliever but from years back.

Redsfan6272
06-11-2022, 06:06 PM
Every time I see Strickland in a game he can't get 3 outs but Bell keeps going to him.. ugh

TheBigLebowski
06-11-2022, 06:07 PM
Strickland was a solid pitcher till he signed with the Reds. I thought it was a solid signing. He has been decent of late after being horrible to start the year. It seems like no matter who they pickup for the pen end up being awful the minute they sign them.

I liked it too, but I think our perspectives are so horribly skewed because we’re unaccustomed to making even halfway decent bullpen acquisitions. Strickland seemed like Dennis Eckersley to us - on paper.

Strikes Out Looking
06-11-2022, 06:07 PM
On the bright side, the Castellini's have aligned their resources to payroll. On the dark side, they are idiots. Rich, but still idiots.

dakota42
06-11-2022, 06:07 PM
Wow.I love that dumb play.

JohnnyBench5
06-11-2022, 06:07 PM
Bell and his excellent management of the BP strikes again...

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50YrRedsFan
06-11-2022, 06:08 PM
Cardinal tootblan

JohnnyBench5
06-11-2022, 06:09 PM
66 looks like a softball pitcher...he is doing well though...Strickland needs to hit the pavement...


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Kingspoint
06-11-2022, 06:11 PM
This game is close, Nick. Would be nice if you showed up.

NebraskaRed
06-11-2022, 06:12 PM
Every time I see Strickland in a game he can't get 3 outs but Bell keeps going to him.. ugh

Not a defense of Strickland at all, but I don't know who Bell could go to that's any better. They're all not great except for Diaz.

OldFashionedRed
06-11-2022, 06:12 PM
Not a big fan of competitors having cheerful banter. I miss the old days when guys hated other teams, held grudges, weren't afraid to have you seeing stars.

SomeCallMeTim
06-11-2022, 06:12 PM
Bell and his excellent management of the BP strikes again...

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Iím not a bell fan or apologist.

Maybe Bellís not the best in game strategist, but the simple fact is the arms or lack thereof.

Kingspoint
06-11-2022, 06:13 PM
This game is close, Nick. Would be nice if you showed up.

Swings at 1 of 5 pitches. Out.

KeefeCato
06-11-2022, 06:14 PM
Strickland was good with the Giants but that’s a few years ago. Since then he’s bounced around from team to team.

The Reds signed him around March 22. Ask yourself why he was still available at that point in the off-season.

They look for the cheapest guys who don’t have a deal at the very end. Similar to the Doolittle signing, another very good reliever but from years back.

He was good with Tampa and Milwaukee last year. Bad in 6 innings with the Angels. Solid overall basic stats last year. I didn't expect him to be lockdown guy. Thought he'd be much better though than he has been.

TheBigLebowski
06-11-2022, 06:16 PM
This game is close, Nick. Would be nice if you showed up.

You probably hurt his feelings, and he’s back on the DL.

SomeCallMeTim
06-11-2022, 06:16 PM
Swings at 1 of 5 pitches. Out.

0-5 today.

Friedl 0-4 last night.

Need India STAT!

NebraskaRed
06-11-2022, 06:16 PM
There is a certain "bro" quality to most people on the Cardinals

malcontent
06-11-2022, 06:17 PM
Bellís really going to go back to Toni Tone Tony again in the 9th, isnít he??

Bumfuzzling.
I'd like to see Kuhnel get a chance here, but I guess it will be Santillan.

SomeCallMeTim
06-11-2022, 06:18 PM
I'd like to see Kuhnel get a chance here, but I guess it will be Santillan.

https://media2.giphy.com/media/vyTnNTrs3wqQ0UIvwE/giphy.gif

By no I mean no Santillan, but I guess if heís gone swim heís gotta learn.

KeefeCato
06-11-2022, 06:18 PM
0-5 today.

Friedl 0-4 last night.

Need India STAT!

Been a lost year for India. He may come back like a house of fire. Or he may not hit a lick for a while.

757690
06-11-2022, 06:19 PM
I'd like to see Kuhnel get a chance here, but I guess it will be Santillan.

Those who do not learn from history are bound to repeat it.

TheBigLebowski
06-11-2022, 06:19 PM
I'd like to see Kuhnel get a chance here, but I guess it will be Santillan.

Yes. Leave Kuhnel. Why not? We thought he might be that guy for a couple of years. Why not see what he can do?

Ky Fried Redleg
06-11-2022, 06:20 PM
*** SCOREBOARD STUMPER***

Since 1970, there have been eight(8) players who have won five or more Gold Glove awards while playing for either the Reds or the Cardinals. How many can you name???

Bench
Morgan
Concepcion

Molina
Keith Hernandez
Ozzie Smith
Scott Rolen( 4 with Cards; 1 with Reds)
Jim Edmunds

KeefeCato
06-11-2022, 06:20 PM
I'd like to see Kuhnel get a chance here, but I guess it will be Santillan.

I'd give him a shot. What do they have to lose? I don't expect Kuhnel to be any good long term. But small sample he has thrown the ball pretty good. He is at least starting the 9th.

rob meehan
06-11-2022, 06:20 PM
stubborn bell going to santillon again. i hope not. go joe cool!

SomeCallMeTim
06-11-2022, 06:21 PM
Well what díya know?

Red Raindog
06-11-2022, 06:21 PM
May not work but I like trying something besides Tony


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TheBigLebowski
06-11-2022, 06:22 PM
Yeah, good on Bell for giving him a try

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Ok Joel. Walk the leadoff guy. Way to show you deserve this opp.

NebraskaRed
06-11-2022, 06:23 PM
For the first time in my life I will say, Thank you Yadier Molina

Red Raindog
06-11-2022, 06:24 PM
Got to love Yadier DP


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KeefeCato
06-11-2022, 06:24 PM
And he walks the leadoff batter. For those who hate on Bell and his bullpen management. Tell me who do you use here?
If you use Diaz to close. You might be tied or losing this game at the start of the 9th. Diaz got out of a jam in the 6th. Had he not pitched the 6th. Might not be a lead to try and close now.

TheBigLebowski
06-11-2022, 06:24 PM
Ohhhh…5-4-3!

One more out!

It was freaking Molina too.

SomeCallMeTim
06-11-2022, 06:25 PM
Bench
Morgan
Concepcion

Molina
Keith Hernandez
Ozzie Smith
Scott Rolen( 4 with Cards; 1 with Reds)
Jim Edmunds

Had 6 of 8. I was trying to think of a pitcher. I feel stupid forgetting Rolen.

Red Raindog
06-11-2022, 06:26 PM
That was stupid Kuhnel


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TheBigLebowski
06-11-2022, 06:27 PM
Kuhnel is every Reds reliever we have this year, fused into one husky and seemingly confused package.

KeefeCato
06-11-2022, 06:28 PM
So much for Kuhnel.

NebraskaRed
06-11-2022, 06:28 PM
Of course

Strikes Out Looking
06-11-2022, 06:28 PM
sell the team bob and take your boy with you.

malcontent
06-11-2022, 06:28 PM
ouch

RedTeamGo!
06-11-2022, 06:29 PM
Lmao what can you say

RedForLife
06-11-2022, 06:29 PM
What a bullpen!

Red Raindog
06-11-2022, 06:29 PM
How much do we miss Antone?


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Redsfan6272
06-11-2022, 06:29 PM
When your a "Winning team" you find ways to win.. when your the Reds and cheap you find ways to loose

phlbilly
06-11-2022, 06:29 PM
This bullpen is a disgrace….Diaz is the only one who should even be on the roster

Ky Fried Redleg
06-11-2022, 06:29 PM
Three hours of my life and then that... sucks.

RiverfrontRed
06-11-2022, 06:29 PM
Reds continue to be a clown show. Embarrassing.

SomeCallMeTim
06-11-2022, 06:29 PM
https://media0.giphy.com/media/7T5uJhddXahKfGk14W/giphy.gif

OldFashionedRed
06-11-2022, 06:30 PM
Absolutely sickening. I just said to my husband "there is NO WAY I could sit there and watch that game after game, and be able to do nothing about it". Strickland needs cut. We got guys consistently coming in not ready to pitch. Trying to be fancy and missing badly.

50YrRedsFan
06-11-2022, 06:30 PM
It just had to end like this.

Dawink
06-11-2022, 06:30 PM
Itís absolutely laughable at this point.


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Banshee
06-11-2022, 06:30 PM
Amazing.

rob meehan
06-11-2022, 06:30 PM
and where was lefty detwiler against edman and gorman?

TheBigLebowski
06-11-2022, 06:30 PM
There’s an ambo pulling on to the field to fetch Senzel - he jerked his neck too hard watching that ball leave and hyperextended a testicle.

OldFashionedRed
06-11-2022, 06:31 PM
sell the team bob and take your boy with you.

I'm in agreement, that may be what they're trying to do. Lower the value enough that someone will buy.

Sassy Sal
06-11-2022, 06:31 PM
I think I must keep watching to see things like this.

KeefeCato
06-11-2022, 06:31 PM
They are never going to be a complete team under this ownership. That's a fact.
They will have a year with a good lineup. But terrible pitching.
Or they will have outstanding pitching 2020 but nobody hits.

Redsfan6272
06-11-2022, 06:32 PM
Absolutely sickening. I just said to my husband "there is NO WAY I could sit there and watch that game after game, and be able to do nothing about it". Strickland needs cut. We got guys consistently coming in not ready to pitch. Trying to be fancy and missing badly.

Sadly the owner sees this game after game but does nothing about it... if I had Bob's money like hell I be second fiddle to the Cardinals!!!!

Alabama Red
06-11-2022, 06:32 PM
Thought we had that one on the bag. Bullpen is awful.

Ironman92
06-11-2022, 06:33 PM
Glad I sat this one out

Ky Fried Redleg
06-11-2022, 06:33 PM
Can't overestimate the value of having lockdown guys in the 8th and 9th innings.

SomeCallMeTim
06-11-2022, 06:33 PM
Next thing you know they are going to lose a no-hitter.

JohnnyBench5
06-11-2022, 06:34 PM
Oh no! We suck again! The one thing we haven't tried is firing Bell...what have we got to lose...?

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KeefeCato
06-11-2022, 06:34 PM
Absolutely sickening. I just said to my husband "there is NO WAY I could sit there and watch that game after game, and be able to do nothing about it". Strickland needs cut. We got guys consistently coming in not ready to pitch. Trying to be fancy and missing badly.

I'm not necessarily disagreeing with you on Strickland.
But do you really think his replacement would be any better?
All comes back to they need a new owner.

Alabama Red
06-11-2022, 06:34 PM
Correct. There are too many missing pieces and there isn’t enough talent in the system to cover all areas. They’re going to have to spend some money on quality players and they’re not willing to do that.

icehole3
06-11-2022, 06:34 PM
and where was lefty detwiler against edman and gorman?

Media to Bell: WTF happened?

Bell:

https://i.imgur.com/puO1Ggo.gif

Redsfan6272
06-11-2022, 06:35 PM
Man I miss Chapman in the ninth...

Dawink
06-11-2022, 06:35 PM
and where was lefty detwiler against edman and gorman?

So glad Iím
Not the only one thinking that. WHY? Dear Lord maybe Edman gets a hit but I doubt he homers off of Detwiler. Good Lord man, please make this stop. I agree he HAD to use Diaz in the 6th today but then it should have been all matchup based when you were fortunate to get to the ninth with a lead. Just befuddling. And whatís sadder possibly is I will watch again tomorrow lol


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NebraskaRed
06-11-2022, 06:36 PM
Trade Castillo and Mahle (if you can). Get it over with.

TheBigLebowski
06-11-2022, 06:38 PM
So glad I’m
Not the only one thinking that. WHY? Dear Lord maybe Edman gets a hit but I doubt he homers off of Detwiler. Good Lord man, please make this stop. I agree he HAD to use Diaz in the 6th today but then it should have been all matchup based when you were fortunate to get to the ninth with a lead. Just befuddling. And what’s sadder possibly is I will watch again tomorrow lol


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Come on. I don’t like Bell at all, but he can’t be held responsible for what just happened. At all.

SomeCallMeTim
06-11-2022, 06:39 PM
can't stand Tommy Edman

How do you feel now?

SomeCallMeTim
06-11-2022, 06:47 PM
This is so demoralizing for all of the starters. They give 6-7 solid innings and their work is all for naught. I feel for them.

Kc61
06-11-2022, 06:55 PM
No problem with Santillan and Kuhnel — but not in these critical spots. Not yet anyway. Giving games away.

LoudounReds
06-11-2022, 06:59 PM
Just back to room after watching today’s debacle in person.

Knew it was coming. Was just a matter of how. This team loves ripping the hearts out of its fans.

OldFashionedRed
06-11-2022, 07:02 PM
I'm not necessarily disagreeing with you on Strickland.
But do you really think his replacement would be any better?
All comes back to they need a new owner.

You're right, the replacement may not be any better, but I think it's more about sending a message: perform, or you will be somewhere else. A new owner might just help that happen. Bell makes some boneheaded moves, but I feel bad for the guy having to sit there KNOWING what's inevitable. More than once I've mentioned this, but I don't know if there's a league-wide problem of players starting the season fat and out of shape. I mean, you're an ATHLETE, everyone should be in shape and then you let the differences in skill dictate things. Is it too much to ask for players to stand on the mound and not look like Babe Ruth pitching?

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Come on. I don’t like Bell at all, but he can’t be held responsible for what just happened. At all.

I do think Bell could instill a little more fire in this ballclub, maybe hold guys accountable for what they do off the field? Piniella wouldn't put up with this, my memory is foggy.

Tony Cloninger
06-11-2022, 07:17 PM
What are they doing off the field that requires Bell to out his foot down?

I agree they tolerate bad performances a lot as this roster clearly shows with Aquino and Stricknine.

In 1992 Pinella saw the Reds overrated by that point bullpen of Dibble and Charlton blow 10 games in the 8-9 innings that year. At least 2 to the Braves in the 9th. One to the Mets on a walk off from that horrible Bonilla who was bad that year with Dibble tearing off his uniform. Pinella did finally lose it with Dibble and his talking to the press. But Lou put up with it a lot and really so did the FO. I mean they had only 1 LH in that pen besides Charlton. He was bad too. Scott Ruskin.

At least this team has an excuse that they are all bad save for Diaz.

traderumor
06-11-2022, 07:57 PM
if your best pitchers are only able to go 5-6 innings as starters cover the opening innings with relief and bring in starter in 4th. I know, rotation arms have a pregame routine to get ready for 1st pitch, so they develop a routine to enter in game.

For a roster builder to have a plan that requires your weakest members of the staff to cover 33-44% of your need is stupidity beyond belief, but geniuses all over the league are trying it. How's that working out?

LeatherPants
06-11-2022, 08:02 PM
You're right, the replacement may not be any better, but I think it's more about sending a message: perform, or you will be somewhere else. A new owner might just help that happen. Bell makes some boneheaded moves, but I feel bad for the guy having to sit there KNOWING what's inevitable. More than once I've mentioned this, but I don't know if there's a league-wide problem of players starting the season fat and out of shape. I mean, you're an ATHLETE, everyone should be in shape and then you let the differences in skill dictate things. Is it too much to ask for players to stand on the mound and not look like Babe Ruth pitching?

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I do think Bell could instill a little more fire in this ballclub, maybe hold guys accountable for what they do off the field? Piniella wouldn't put up with this, my memory is foggy.

If Bell were to bench everyone not playing well, they wouldnít be able to field a team. This is on ownership not him.

KeefeCato
06-11-2022, 08:05 PM
Like I have said. In today's game starters go 6. You need a bare minimum of 4 consistently good relievers. 6 is what most of the top teams have. 6 good ones and they fill the last 2-3 spots with guys who are the better Reds relievers. Santillan, Kuhnel. Hoffman, Cessa. Warren those types are the last 2-3 pitchers/mop up guys on good bullpen.
The Reds have exactly 1 good reliever and he is unproven. Who knows how his season and career will go. Looks very promising but still unproven.

CrosleyVet
06-11-2022, 08:23 PM
Like I have said. In today's game starters go 6. You need a bare minimum of 4 consistently good relievers. 6 is what most of the top teams have. 6 good ones and they fill the last 2-3 spots with guys who are the better Reds relievers. Santillan, Kuhnel. Hoffman, Cessa. Warren those types are the last 2-3 pitchers/mop up guys on good bullpen.
The Reds have exactly 1 good reliever and he is unproven. Who knows how his season and career will go. Looks very promising but still unproven.

The Reds bullpen would not make any competing team, none of them

Ironman92
06-11-2022, 08:25 PM
Watched replay…..throw a 2-1 pitch down and in to a lefty? Awful. I have zero trust in the two pitchers they use in the 8th and 9th

Another awful loss, let’s get used to blowing games late after leading all game

KeefeCato
06-11-2022, 08:25 PM
The Reds bullpen would not make any competing team, none of them

No team has a good 8th or 9th reliever really. They just keep rotating to and from the minors. But most good teams bullpens go 5-6 deep with quality arms.

Ky Fried Redleg
06-11-2022, 09:00 PM
You're right, the replacement may not be any better, but I think it's more about sending a message: perform, or you will be somewhere else. A new owner might just help that happen. Bell makes some boneheaded moves, but I feel bad for the guy having to sit there KNOWING what's inevitable. More than once I've mentioned this, but I don't know if there's a league-wide problem of players starting the season fat and out of shape. I mean, you're an ATHLETE, everyone should be in shape and then you let the differences in skill dictate things. Is it too much to ask for players to stand on the mound and not look like Babe Ruth pitching?

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I do think Bell could instill a little more fire in this ballclub, maybe hold guys accountable for what they do off the field? Piniella wouldn't put up with this, my memory is foggy.

I can't picture Bell lighting a fire under anyone's ass, ala Sweet Lou. I see David as a player's pal, not an enforcer or fire starter.

Tony Cloninger
06-12-2022, 11:37 AM
No team has a good 8th or 9th reliever really. They just keep rotating to and from the minors. But most good teams bullpens go 5-6 deep with quality arms.

The Yankees do and itís nut from spending tons of money. They have 2 very bad retreads who have turned into gold. Wendy freaking Peralta. Thatís one of them. Chapman is still good. The Dodgers. Brewers. They are not blowing tons of money on it.