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Ron Madden
06-14-2022, 05:29 PM
Reds
1. Jonathan India (R) 2B
2. Brandon Drury (R) 3B
3. Tommy Pham (R) LF
4. Joey Votto (L) 1B
5. Kyle Farmer (R) SS
6. Nick Senzel (R) CF
7. Mike Moustakas (L) DH
8. Albert Almora Jr. (R) RF
9. Aramis Garcia (R) C
SP Tyler Mahle (R)

D-backs
1. Daulton Varsho (L) RF
2. Josh Rojas (L) 3B
3. Ketel Marte (S) 2B
4. Christian Walker (R) DH
5. David Peralta (L) LF
6. Pavin Smith (L) 1B
7. Carson Kelly (R) C
8. Alek Thomas (L) CF
9. Geraldo Perdomo (S) SS
SP Zach Davies (R)

VR
06-14-2022, 05:35 PM
Reds
1. Jonathan India (R) 2B
2. Brandon Drury (R) 3B
3. Tommy Pham (R) LF
4. Joey Votto (L) 1B
5. Kyle Farmer (R) SS
6. Nick Senzel (R) CF
7. Mike Moustakas (L) DH
8. Albert Almora Jr. (R) RF
9. Aramis Garcia (R) C
SP Tyler Mahle (R)

D-backs
1. Daulton Varsho (L) RF
2. Josh Rojas (L) 3B
3. Ketel Marte (S) 2B
4. Christian Walker (R) DH
5. David Peralta (L) LF
6. Pavin Smith (L) 1B
7. Carson Kelly (R) C
8. Alek Thomas (L) CF
9. Geraldo Perdomo (S) SS
SP Zach Davies (R)

My two favorite things about this lineup.

1. India returns.
2. It means only 1 more day before we get three straight games pitched by Greene, Ashcraft, and Castillo.

NebraskaRed
06-14-2022, 06:04 PM
First game for India since April 29th. He was off to a pretty hot start.

Ironman92
06-14-2022, 06:09 PM
Just keep winning. If you are going to keep me up so late you should prolly score 10 or so runs.

KeefeCato
06-14-2022, 06:27 PM
Was India hitting well on his rehab?

Ron Madden
06-14-2022, 06:40 PM
Was India hitting well on his rehab?





Over his four-game rehab assignment with Triple-A Louisville, India went 2-for-12 with two RBIs, three walks and four strikeouts.
-- Mark Sheldon

Ironman92
06-14-2022, 06:45 PM
Hopefully time passes quickly because I’m arguing with some dude on FB because his reason for Yadi Molina not making the HOF is because he doesn’t have 500 HR or 3000 hits. So I asked him why he didn’t think catchers should be in the HOF because no catcher is real close to either stat. Then I brought up that based on his standards Lou Gehrig would be out but Gary Sheffield in.

texasdave
06-14-2022, 06:49 PM
First game for India since April 29th. He was off to a pretty hot start.

Someone is misremembering here. .311/341/.652 is not hot. 1 walk in 45 plate appearances as well.

NebraskaRed
06-14-2022, 06:55 PM
Someone is misremembering here. .311/341/.652 is not hot. 1 walk in 45 plate appearances as well.

I guess this disagreement could be categorized as "Who could honestly care", but he had at least 1 hit in 9 of the 11 games he played in, 3 of those games were multi-hit games, including 3 hits in the last game he played before he got hurt.

NebraskaRed
06-14-2022, 06:59 PM
Mark Sheldon
@m_sheldon

An MRI taken on Aquino’s left leg revealed he’s dealing with a high ankle sprain rather than a calf injury. Could be out 4-6 weeks but that timetable could improve once he sees a specialist back in Cincinnati.

SomeCallMeTim
06-14-2022, 07:14 PM
Someone is misremembering here. .311/341/.652 is not hot. 1 walk in 45 plate appearances as well.

You’re advocating for the Senzel/Friedl with the .200 leadoff average juggernaut instead?

texasdave
06-14-2022, 07:20 PM
I guess this disagreement could be categorized as "Who could honestly care", but he had at least 1 hit in 9 of the 11 games he played in, 3 of those games were multi-hit games, including 3 hits in the last game he played before he got hurt.

:laugh:

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You’re advocating for the Senzel/Friedl with the .200 leadoff average juggernaut instead?

:laugh:

Kingspoint
06-14-2022, 09:05 PM
Missing six weeks from a hamstring injury, with one setback, should put the brakes on any expectations out of India over the next month or so. Staying healthy should be the only goal. Don't need it to turn into a worse injury that needs surgery.

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Glad there was "nothing to worry about" as far as Aquino was concerned. The quote from Bell was something to that effect. Well, Schrock can play a Corner OF, too.

KYExtemper
06-14-2022, 09:30 PM
Only a few games away from getting out of the cellar of the NL Central. Need to win this series before we head to Milwaukee.

podgejeff_
06-14-2022, 09:31 PM
Amazing how India comes back and Senzel is suddenly the #6 hitter.

Because he was flashing those amazing leadoff skills before that nobody else could duplicate in the previous lineup.

Kingspoint
06-14-2022, 09:44 PM
India isn't going to try to steal the first time he gets on base coming off a hamstring injury that had him out six weeks.

Why throw to 1st?

But, that's what you would expect, so he might get away with it. A curveball or something in the dirt must be coming.

Kingspoint
06-14-2022, 09:47 PM
Mahle should have had Wins in 2 of his last three starts, but the bullpen was atrocious.

There's no way he doesn't have that in the back of his mind. He's going to try to shut them out while he's out there.

He should be trying to pitch efficiently, so he can get through 7 innings and go straight to Diaz.

He needs to stop throwing 15+ pitches every inning, and get some innings where he throws less than 10 pitches. Davies just threw 9 pitches.

klw
06-14-2022, 09:47 PM
India isn't going to try to steal the first time he gets on base coming off a hamstring injury that had him out six weeks.

Why throw to 1st?

But, that's what you would expect, so he might get away with it. A curveball or something in the dirt must be coming.


The throw over maybe kept his lead shorter for the inevitable DP to follow.

Kingspoint
06-14-2022, 09:50 PM
The throw over maybe kept his lead shorter for the inevitable DP to follow.

Sinker-ball pitcher needs to do that. Many opportunities for the DP in addition that it's easier to be successful on a steal on a sinking pitch.

WildcatFan
06-14-2022, 09:51 PM
It's my monthly home-alone-with-the-dog-and-a-little-drunk check-in to the game threads.

I think this team not decimated by injuries has the pieces to build around and compete in 2023.

That roster includes Joey Votto.

Ironman92
06-14-2022, 09:53 PM
Pinpoint Mahle is fun

podgejeff_
06-14-2022, 09:53 PM
I don't know Welsh, I kind of want Mahle to get Ks.

2 in an inning with only 11 pitches will do just fine.

mhs95_06
06-14-2022, 09:53 PM
3 Ks on just 12 pitches!

WildcatFan
06-14-2022, 09:53 PM
Also as one of the resident "extend your stars" posters, I want to see them trade Mahle. Love him for another team.

VR
06-14-2022, 09:55 PM
Also as one of the resident "extend your stars" posters, I want to see them trade Mahle. Love him for another team.

Some coach will turn him into a Cy Young candidate.


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mhs95_06
06-14-2022, 09:55 PM
Pinpoint Mahle is fun

And the ump got them correct!

Mutaman
06-14-2022, 09:55 PM
I just saw the kind of season Wandy Peralta is having. Gag me with a spoon.

WildcatFan
06-14-2022, 10:00 PM
Some coach will turn him into a Cy Young candidate.


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I think just a ballpark will.

Kingspoint
06-14-2022, 10:00 PM
So, I have no visual.

How far did Senzel's shot to Center go?

podgejeff_
06-14-2022, 10:00 PM
So, I have no visual.

How far did Senzel's shot to Center go?

Normal flyball depth right center.

Kingspoint
06-14-2022, 10:04 PM
I think just a ballpark will.

I don't think that will make him throw fewer pitches per inning.

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Normal flyball depth right center.

Thank you.

podgejeff_
06-14-2022, 10:06 PM
Mahle's working the snakes right now.

Kingspoint
06-14-2022, 10:06 PM
I just saw the kind of season Wandy Peralta is having. Gag me with a spoon.

1st team through the American League hitters. Give them a 2nd look. He's also usually pitching with at least a 4-run lead. Kind of easy to pitch under those conditions. Throw strikes.

Rantly
06-14-2022, 10:09 PM
22 pitches thru 2 for Mahle.

Ironman92
06-14-2022, 10:10 PM
Almora good bottom of order guy

Kingspoint
06-14-2022, 10:10 PM
At this rate, Mahle can go 9 innings. He's already dramatically increased his chances of finishing the 7th as Davies looks like he's going the distance, too.

Mahle could really use some run support, though.

mhs95_06
06-14-2022, 10:11 PM
3 Ks on just 12 pitches!

not paying much attention to the lead-off hitter! Was only 2 Ks.

JCM11
06-14-2022, 10:12 PM
Garcia is unbelievably bad at hitting.

Kingspoint
06-14-2022, 10:13 PM
not paying much attention to the lead-off hitter! Was only 2 Ks.

2, 3, who's counting.

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Jonathan India's "First Contact".

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Hope Mahle is watching Davies and what he's doing.

32 pitches through three for Davies.

Kingspoint
06-14-2022, 10:15 PM
You could say both lineups are helping these pitchers get through these innings fast.

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This may be the quickest game in the Majors this season.

podgejeff_
06-14-2022, 10:21 PM
Hope Mahle is watching Davies and what he's doing.

32 pitches through three for Davies.

He's only a few pitches above that.

WildcatFan
06-14-2022, 10:22 PM
I don't think that will make him throw fewer pitches per inning.

I imagine having some confidence in your park’s ability to keep the ball in play has an effect on your pitching.

Ironman92
06-14-2022, 10:26 PM
Let’s go

adkindo
06-14-2022, 10:29 PM
Mikolas lost the no hitter after 8 2/3

Kingspoint
06-14-2022, 10:30 PM
He's only a few pitches above that.

He's matching him inning for inning.

podgejeff_
06-14-2022, 10:30 PM
Davies continues to mystify Reds hitting tonight.

Kingspoint
06-14-2022, 10:33 PM
I imagine having some confidence in your park’s ability to keep the ball in play has an effect on your pitching.

He didn't give up any homeruns his first five starts, I think this season. Some were in Cincy, some were not. He's still only giving up about 1 per game. That's one batter out of 105 pitches.

More than likely, the combination of a new Pitching Coach/Organization/League would have a greater effect on him getting deeper into games. He's still young, as far as a Pitcher is concerned, too. It's possible he figures this part of it out. Definitely harder to do in a smaller park if you aren't a sinker-ball Pitcher.

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We're witnessing Mahle's best pitching performance of the year, after three decent performances.

He's only once had a Gamescore above 60 this year.

mhs95_06
06-14-2022, 10:36 PM
Mikolas lost the no hitter after 8 2/3

Line drive over Bader's head. He was going back hard, started to glide a bit thinking he had it, then a quick burst that turned out to be futile as the ball went about a foot over his glove!

Kingspoint
06-14-2022, 10:38 PM
Line drive over Bader's head. He was going back hard, started to glide a bit thinking he had it, then a quick burst that turned out to be futile as the ball went about a foot over his glove!

Sounds exactly like Friedl's Triple.

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Great response by Mahle after Marte dug a great pitch out of the strikezone for a Double.

Ron Madden
06-14-2022, 10:39 PM
Amazing how India comes back and Senzel is suddenly the #6 hitter.

Because he was flashing those amazing leadoff skills before that nobody else could duplicate in the previous lineup.

I read somewhere the other day that TJ Friedl has more ABs from the leadoff spot than India or Senzel so far this season, I meant to look it up to see for myself but forgot about it.

Kingspoint
06-14-2022, 10:40 PM
Both Pitchers at 49 pitches through 4 innings.

Mahle can go 8 and turn it over to Diaz.

He'll get pulled as soon as he hits 100-105 pitches, though tonight, he may go a couple past that.

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I read somewhere the other day that TJ Friedl has more ABs from the leadoff spot than India or Senzel so far this season, I meant to look it up to see for myself but forgot about it.

You should put that speed at the top if there's no clear leadoff hitter, which there is now.

WildcatFan
06-14-2022, 10:41 PM
Mikolas lost the no hitter after 8 2/3

Couldn't happen to a better team.

podgejeff_
06-14-2022, 10:41 PM
I read somewhere the other day that TJ Friedl has more ABs from the leadoff spot than India or Senzel so far this season, I meant to look it up to see for myself but forgot about it.

I want to see Almora there, personally. Well, I did. India's back now.

Kingspoint
06-14-2022, 10:42 PM
Is the ump 6'10"? Why would he think that high pitch was a strike?

WildcatFan
06-14-2022, 10:42 PM
Line drive over Bader's head. He was going back hard, started to glide a bit thinking he had it, then a quick burst that turned out to be futile as the ball went about a foot over his glove!

Bader dogs it quite a bit for a "scrappy" player.

fondfoat
06-14-2022, 10:43 PM
Mikolas lost the no hitter after 8 2/3

Dude threw 129 pitches! Give him some props.

podgejeff_
06-14-2022, 10:43 PM
Nicky Hustle takes third on a bloop to left.

Nice.

Kingspoint
06-14-2022, 10:44 PM
Cool!

Success again for Senzel (immediately after being screwed by the ump, he took matters into his own hands and got the team's 3rd base-runner and 2nd hit of the game....making Davies throw from the stretch).

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Moose!

Senzel!

Good aggressive base-running.

It's a lot harder throwing from the stretch.

podgejeff_
06-14-2022, 10:46 PM
Moose steals the laziest base in the history of baseball.

Ron Madden
06-14-2022, 10:47 PM
I don't know Welsh, I kind of want Mahle to get Ks.

2 in an inning with only 11 pitches will do just fine.

Chris Welsh talks crazy sometimes. He calls home runs rally killers and now he doesn't like pitchers to get strike outs?

Kingspoint
06-14-2022, 10:47 PM
He needs to walk Garcia so India can bat with the bases loaded.

podgejeff_
06-14-2022, 10:48 PM
Chris Welsh talks crazy sometimes. He calls home runs rally killers and now he doesn't like strike outs?

I mean wasn't he the definition of a junkball lefty? Probably had a full career explaining how strikeouts were overrated.

Kingspoint
06-14-2022, 10:48 PM
No runs will keep Mahle focused.

TheBigLebowski
06-14-2022, 10:48 PM
Garcia is a complete black hole.

podgejeff_
06-14-2022, 10:48 PM
Garcia is a complete black hole.

I honestly think I'd rather have Mahle batting.

Kingspoint
06-14-2022, 10:48 PM
Votto has an extra-base hit that's due.

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I honestly think I'd rather have Mahle batting.

Wonder if that thought went through Mahle's head. Mahle has a decent swing.

Tim Hudson, who was a .400 hitter with a ton of power at Auburn said he couldn't hit with the wood bat. Aluminum in college.

WildcatFan
06-14-2022, 10:50 PM
How is Elly still in Dayton?

podgejeff_
06-14-2022, 10:52 PM
How is Elly still in Dayton?

He's 20 and we still have the draft in a month.

WildcatFan
06-14-2022, 10:54 PM
He's 20 and we still have the draft in a month.

Implying that he'll be in Chattanooga in July?

podgejeff_
06-14-2022, 10:54 PM
Implying that he'll be in Chattanooga in July?

I'd assume so. High A's got nothing for him.

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Mahle 60 pitches through 5.

This is prime Mahle.

WildcatFan
06-14-2022, 10:55 PM
I'd assume so. High A's got nothing for him.

Agreed. I'd rather see him in Louisville at this point. His tools play.

Kingspoint
06-14-2022, 10:55 PM
This is impressive.

We could get a ton for Mahle after this performance if we traded him before his next performance.

podgejeff_
06-14-2022, 10:57 PM
An Expos jersey in Phoenix.

Alright then.

WildcatFan
06-14-2022, 10:59 PM
Disagree on that strike three.

Kingspoint
06-14-2022, 10:59 PM
Btw, those who are watching,....how is the ump doing?

Rantly
06-14-2022, 10:59 PM
Chris Welsh talks crazy sometimes. He calls home runs rally killers and now he doesn't like pitchers to get strike outs?

Jealous of the strikeout. Chris struck out 3.4/9 innings in his career.

WildcatFan
06-14-2022, 11:00 PM
Btw, those who are watching,....how is the ump doing?

Fine. Not as good as a robo would do.

podgejeff_
06-14-2022, 11:00 PM
Btw, those who are watching,....how is the ump doing?

He's been a little generous on the left side of the strikezone.

A score of meh.

Rantly
06-14-2022, 11:01 PM
Btw, those who are watching,....how is the ump doing?

I think he’s been good and consistent.
Both pitchers are painting the black and he’s called them all strikes.

WildcatFan
06-14-2022, 11:01 PM
I think he’s been good and consistent.

Most of them are tbh.

Kingspoint
06-14-2022, 11:02 PM
Alright, Pham!

Giving Votto a chance to drive him in.

WildcatFan
06-14-2022, 11:02 PM
Votto's driving Pham in here.

Ironman92
06-14-2022, 11:04 PM
Votto not seeing it good today…yet

WildcatFan
06-14-2022, 11:04 PM
Votto's driving Pham in here.

Can't win em all.

Kingspoint
06-14-2022, 11:05 PM
There's another at-bat for Votto coming, and Davies will be out of the game by then.

podgejeff_
06-14-2022, 11:05 PM
Mahle's destroying the Dbacks, so of course we can't buy a run against Zach Davies.

durl
06-14-2022, 11:08 PM
Just my 2 cents: I'd be fine if they did away with the K-zone box. We know some umps are insanely bad but being able to measure it makes it more aggravating. lol

757690
06-14-2022, 11:08 PM
Reds need to trade Mahle as soon as this game is over. His value will never be higher.

membengal
06-14-2022, 11:09 PM
Quite an outing from Mahle.

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And of course that obs immediately yields a single.

Kingspoint
06-14-2022, 11:13 PM
The only two hits Mahle gave up were great pitches way out of the strike zone.

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Bell needs to go straight from Mahle to Diaz tonight. Do not mess around with anyone else in-between.

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WOW!!!!

Standing ovation for Mahle!!!

NebraskaRed
06-14-2022, 11:15 PM
Pretty great showcase for Mahle.

Now announce his trade to the Dodgers

Kingspoint
06-14-2022, 11:15 PM
Everybody gets on this inning for the REDS!

podgejeff_
06-14-2022, 11:15 PM
Umpire busted out some Kung Fu back there on that K.

Ironman92
06-14-2022, 11:17 PM
Farmer rakes

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Stupid big A field

podgejeff_
06-14-2022, 11:20 PM
Come on Moose stop swinging at everything.

NebraskaRed
06-14-2022, 11:22 PM
Come on Moose stop swinging at everything.

Or keep swinging...

mhs95_06
06-14-2022, 11:22 PM
Please try for some easy swing singles rather than these big swing fly balls!

Ironman92
06-14-2022, 11:22 PM
Crap

VR
06-14-2022, 11:23 PM
Mahle staying pitch efficient, and not trying to strike out every batter is beautiful. And by doing so, he strikes out 8 in 6 innings.


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adkindo
06-14-2022, 11:23 PM
i would challenge

Ironman92
06-14-2022, 11:23 PM
Right fielder busting it on the backup made this play

Kingspoint
06-14-2022, 11:23 PM
Did that guy who's swinging at everything just chase the Pitcher?

757690
06-14-2022, 11:24 PM
Ya gotta send him there. It took a perfect relay to get him. But did Farmer get a bad jump?

VR
06-14-2022, 11:24 PM
Fire House on the spot. Wow.


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NebraskaRed
06-14-2022, 11:24 PM
6 hits and no runs is not ideal.

podgejeff_
06-14-2022, 11:24 PM
Did that guy who's swinging at everything just chase the Pitcher?

In all fairness, he did swing at two obvious balls when I typed that.

OldFashionedRed
06-14-2022, 11:25 PM
I've seen enough of Windmill House.

adkindo
06-14-2022, 11:25 PM
Fire House on the spot. Wow.


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no way....you send him there without hesitation in the current situation

Kingspoint
06-14-2022, 11:25 PM
Friedl should start the next inning ph-ing.

Ironman92
06-14-2022, 11:25 PM
Ya gotta send him there. It took a perfect relay to get him. But did Farmer get a bad jump?

1 out he was where he should’ve been so he could get back if caught. I thought he was going to catch it

adkindo
06-14-2022, 11:26 PM
watching the DBacks feed....their broadcast guys are shocked the Reds did not challenge....they kept showing the replay and there is a chance his foot touched the plate before the tag touched his leg

Kingspoint
06-14-2022, 11:27 PM
In all fairness, he did swing at two obvious balls when I typed that.

Just kidding. But, he had swung at everything tonight. His single was on the 1st pitch after Senzel got on.

adkindo
06-14-2022, 11:27 PM
1 out he was where he should’ve been so he could get back if caught. I thought he was going to catch it

I definitely thought he would catch it....he has made tougher plays against the Reds

Kingspoint
06-14-2022, 11:27 PM
watching the DBacks feed....their broadcast guys are shocked the Reds did not challenge....they kept showing the replay and there is a chance his foot touched the plate before the tag touched his leg

Why wouldn't one challenge and make the Pitcher stand out there for a while.

podgejeff_
06-14-2022, 11:28 PM
I'd be seeing if I could get Robert Hassell from the Padres for Mahle right about now.

VR
06-14-2022, 11:29 PM
no way....you send him there without hesitation in the current situation

1 out? No way unless it’s a sure thing. Ball in the air to the cutoff man before Farmer hit 3rd. No brainer.


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VR
06-14-2022, 11:30 PM
I definitely thought he would catch it....he has made tougher plays against the Reds

I certainly thought it was worth a look.


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NebraskaRed
06-14-2022, 11:31 PM
It's undeniable that Mahle's trade value is at its highest right now.

durl
06-14-2022, 11:31 PM
Mahle looking great. Nice to see.

podgejeff_
06-14-2022, 11:33 PM
It's undeniable that Mahle's trade value is at its highest right now.

It's so obvious we should be targeting some West team with a huge ballpark.

OldFashionedRed
06-14-2022, 11:33 PM
It's undeniable that Mahle's trade value is at its highest right now.

Then the Reds should be seeking a king's ransom for him. I'm tired of getting fleeced.

Ironman92
06-14-2022, 11:34 PM
watching the DBacks feed....their broadcast guys are shocked the Reds did not challenge....they kept showing the replay and there is a chance his foot touched the plate before the tag touched his leg

That’s what I thought

adkindo
06-14-2022, 11:35 PM
1 out? No way unless it’s a sure thing. Ball in the air to the cutoff man before Farmer hit 3rd. No brainer.


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I will give a little because of there only being 1 out.....but I still think I send him on a night like tonight. It took a perfect play to get him.

Ironman92
06-14-2022, 11:35 PM
India lol

podgejeff_
06-14-2022, 11:35 PM
Jesus Dbacks WE JUST GOT INDIA BACK.

NebraskaRed
06-14-2022, 11:35 PM
India hit again!

Kingspoint
06-14-2022, 11:35 PM
Yeah...don't change the Catcher with Mahle throwing like this.

I wasn't thinking it through when I thought Friedl would pinch-hit there.

adkindo
06-14-2022, 11:38 PM
Pham going to put us on the board

Ironman92
06-14-2022, 11:40 PM
Some good pitching to Pham

OldFashionedRed
06-14-2022, 11:42 PM
One of the better pitching performances between two clubs that I've seen in some time.

durl
06-14-2022, 11:42 PM
Couldn't we manage just ONE run tonight?? This team has a way of ruining a great outing by a starter.

Ironman92
06-14-2022, 11:44 PM
Couldn't we manage just ONE run tonight?? This team has a way of ruining a great outing by a starter.

We got this…..got our guys coming up in the 9th

Kingspoint
06-14-2022, 11:47 PM
We got this…..got our guys coming up in the 9th

Votto knows what to do.

Ironman92
06-14-2022, 11:48 PM
I’d bring him out for the 9th. I know it won’t happen.

adkindo
06-14-2022, 11:48 PM
matched his career high with 12 K's

Ironman92
06-14-2022, 11:49 PM
Votto knows what to do.

He’s getting walked

podgejeff_
06-14-2022, 11:49 PM
Tyler Mahle

https://media1.giphy.com/media/L9X2hR5BdRKgw/200.gif

Ky Fried Redleg
06-14-2022, 11:49 PM
Tyler Terrific !!!

Kingspoint
06-14-2022, 11:49 PM
105 pitches is where Bell always stops.

And, it did take him 15 pitches that inning.

I'm guessing whether we score or not, Mahle is done, as you don't want to go to 120 pitches with him.

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Tyler Mahle

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adkindo
06-14-2022, 11:50 PM
just pay Mahle and Castillo.....almost guaranteed to have one of the best pitching rotations for the next few years

OldFashionedRed
06-14-2022, 11:50 PM
I’d bring him out for the 9th. I know it won’t happen.

I would to. Should he lose, that's on the team for not putting up any runs. He deserves a shot at the complete game.

kaldaniels
06-14-2022, 11:51 PM
I’d bring him out for the 9th. I know it won’t happen.

Sadak and Welsh stumping for it.

Damn fine job tonight Tyler.

fondfoat
06-14-2022, 11:52 PM
Sadak and Welsh stumping for it.

Damn fine job tonight Tyler.

Going a complete game could be great for his mental state going forward.

Ironman92
06-14-2022, 11:52 PM
Dumb pitch with 2 strikes

Good hit

podgejeff_
06-14-2022, 11:52 PM
There was no way Votto wasn't getting on base tonight. Just wasn't going to happen.

OldFashionedRed
06-14-2022, 11:52 PM
just pay Mahle and Castillo.....almost guaranteed to have one of the best pitching rotations for the next few years


Mahle
Castillo
Greene
Overton
Ashcraft

Fantastic rotation.

Ironman92
06-14-2022, 11:53 PM
Our guys

fondfoat
06-14-2022, 11:53 PM
Mahle
Castillo
Greene
Overton
Ashcraft

Fantastic rotation.

Lodolo before Overton...buy yeah, it looks good, but a bit rich for the Reds.

adkindo
06-14-2022, 11:53 PM
do you try to sac bunt?

Ironman92
06-14-2022, 11:54 PM
1st and 2nd

Pitcher 100% will throw pitches for a pulled GIDP

I say go oppo and win this game

durl
06-14-2022, 11:54 PM
2 on, nobody out. Perfect time for a bunt.

adkindo
06-14-2022, 11:54 PM
Mahle
Castillo
Greene
Overton
Ashcraft

Fantastic rotation.

was hoping Lodolo could ear that 5th slot

podgejeff_
06-14-2022, 11:54 PM
Mahle
Castillo
Greene
Overton
Ashcraft

Fantastic rotation.

I'd rather use some combination of Lodolo/Williamson/Abbott and buy a new OF.

Ironman92
06-14-2022, 11:56 PM
100%

durl
06-14-2022, 11:56 PM
do you try to sac bunt?

Avoids the double play.


And I tried to tell them. smh

podgejeff_
06-14-2022, 11:56 PM
1st and 2nd

Pitcher 100% will throw pitches for a pulled GIDP

I say go oppo and win this game

Sigh.

adkindo
06-14-2022, 11:57 PM
that is why I wanted to bunt

Ironman92
06-14-2022, 11:57 PM
Cool…gonna lose now, maybe within 7 pitches

kaldaniels
06-14-2022, 11:57 PM
Where is the vat of acid for Senzel?

OldFashionedRed
06-14-2022, 11:58 PM
I would not send Mahle out there now.

Kingspoint
06-14-2022, 11:58 PM
do you try to sac bunt?

Yes.

mhs95_06
06-14-2022, 11:58 PM
Votto knows what to do.

Senzel doesn't!

Ironman92
06-14-2022, 11:58 PM
Sigh.

It’s obvious….With 2 strikes Senzel just trying to stay alive

Kingspoint
06-14-2022, 11:58 PM
If we lose this game, Mahle may not want to pitch for us again.

Ironman92
06-14-2022, 11:58 PM
I would not send Mahle out there now.

What changed?

fondfoat
06-14-2022, 11:59 PM
I would not send Mahle out there now.

Yeah. No point in him feeling like he lost the game.

Ky Fried Redleg
06-14-2022, 11:59 PM
With apologies to Grande: Get 'em on , DON'T get em' over , DON'T get 'em in.

InsaneinthBrame
06-14-2022, 11:59 PM
Why senzel

kaldaniels
06-14-2022, 11:59 PM
This will be quick and painless guys.

Kingspoint
06-14-2022, 11:59 PM
I'd still use Diaz only.

podgejeff_
06-15-2022, 12:00 AM
This will be quick and painless guys.

Painless isn't an option here.

OldFashionedRed
06-15-2022, 12:00 AM
What changed?

Why send him out there just to extend his innings count for today? It won't be for a win.

Kingspoint
06-15-2022, 12:00 AM
Get him over to 3rd and less than 2 outs against a guy with a 0.39 ERA.

durl
06-15-2022, 12:00 AM
that is why I wanted to bunt

Some sabremetrics fans will tell you the GIDP is better than a bunt attempt.

redsfan9988
06-15-2022, 12:00 AM
Two things:

1. Just pull Mahle. It’s a meaningless game between two bad teams

2. Nick Senzel is not a Major League starter. We have enough evidence. This is a bench OFer/utility guy.

kaldaniels
06-15-2022, 12:01 AM
Why send him out there just to extend his innings count for today? It won't be for a win.

If he gets 3 outs he can still win it.

redsfan9988
06-15-2022, 12:01 AM
Some sabremetrics fans will tell you the GIDP is better than a bunt attempt.

No sabermetrics fan would ever say that…

Kingspoint
06-15-2022, 12:01 AM
Sending him out there doesn't mean he's going through the whole inning. It's a way to transition to Diaz without having Diaz go a whole 2 innings.

OldFashionedRed
06-15-2022, 12:02 AM
If he gets 3 outs he can still win it.

Highly doubt that happens.

kaldaniels
06-15-2022, 12:02 AM
There’s your 3-0 count right on schedule…

durl
06-15-2022, 12:03 AM
No sabermetrics fan would ever say that…

I was being facetious. A little. A bunt is viewed as a wasted AB.

"A lot of managers don't like to waste outs and they consider a bunt a wasted out," said Philadelphia Phillies first base coach Mickey Morandini, who had 61 sacrifices in an 11-year career.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/mlb/2017/03/25/baseball-2017-sacrifice-bunts-are-a-dying-art-in-baseball/99615340/

OldFashionedRed
06-15-2022, 12:03 AM
You have to pull Mahle here.

Kingspoint
06-15-2022, 12:04 AM
Farmer needs to charge that hit. What crappy Defense!

Ironman92
06-15-2022, 12:04 AM
How is he so fast

Tony Cloninger
06-15-2022, 12:04 AM
He deserves to try and go as long as he can so 1 start in which he throws 100-120 pitches is not going to end him. They can limit his pitches next start. The whining over 1 start that he has to extend himself. Jeepers.

Ironman92
06-15-2022, 12:05 AM
Tough matchup with Marte 120 pitches in

OldFashionedRed
06-15-2022, 12:05 AM
No point in risking injury to one of your best starters this season.

Tony Cloninger
06-15-2022, 12:06 AM
I was being facetious. A little. A bunt is viewed as a wasted AB.

"A lot of managers don't like to waste outs and they consider a bunt a wasted out," said Philadelphia Phillies first base coach Mickey Morandini, who had 61 sacrifices in an 11-year career.


In a tie game in the ninth. Which you haven’t scored to boot. I think you can make an exception to the saber dogma gods.

redsfan9988
06-15-2022, 12:06 AM
Wow. That guy should steal 2nd, 3rd, and home since he’s apparently the fastest man in the world.

Kingspoint
06-15-2022, 12:06 AM
He deserves to try and go as long as he can so 1 start in which he throws 100-120 pitches is not going to end him. They can limit his pitches next start. The whining over 1 start that he has to extend himself. Jeepers.

Remember when Baker had what's his name go 124 pitches in San Diego? Maybe if hadn't brought him in to close a game, too, but....

podgejeff_
06-15-2022, 12:07 AM
Remember when Baker had what's his name go 124 pitches in San Diego? Maybe if hadn't brought him in to close a game, too, but....

Harang, right?

Ironman92
06-15-2022, 12:07 AM
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OldFashionedRed
06-15-2022, 12:07 AM
Remember when Baker had what's his name go 124 pitches in San Diego? Maybe if hadn't brought him in to close a game, too, but....

Yeah, I do remember that.

Kingspoint
06-15-2022, 12:07 AM
Farmer made him throw more pitches.

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Harang, right?

Yes.

podgejeff_
06-15-2022, 12:07 AM
Ok, great job Mahle. No more pitches now.

Ironman92
06-15-2022, 12:07 AM
Those are hand claps

redsfan9988
06-15-2022, 12:08 AM
Harang, right?

In relief

Tony Cloninger
06-15-2022, 12:08 AM
That’ll hold those Redszone brats.


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Ky Fried Redleg
06-15-2022, 12:09 AM
Now that, folks, is a pitching outing.

adkindo
06-15-2022, 12:09 AM
hell of a night for Mahle.......DBacks broadcasters claim it is the best performance they have seen against them this year. Only 4th time at this stadium a game has went 9 with no runs.

Fil3232
06-15-2022, 12:09 AM
What a start from Mahle. His upside is so good. I worry his best years are going to be spent in another team’s jersey.

Kingspoint
06-15-2022, 12:09 AM
There's a limo waiting for him to take him to Southern California.

It's 110 outside in Phoenix today, 111 tomorrow.

Tony Cloninger
06-15-2022, 12:09 AM
I doubt Bell is going to bring Mahle 2 days later to relieve. Your straw man is burning. While the Redszone beds are burning.

redsfan9988
06-15-2022, 12:09 AM
Unbelievable outing by Mahle. Kudos. Now the question is when the Reds will next score a run in Phoenix. Tonight? Tomorrow? 2023?

Kingspoint
06-15-2022, 12:09 AM
Best pitching performance of Mahle's career.

fondfoat
06-15-2022, 12:09 AM
Great job. I really thought he wouldn't get through the whole innings.

Kingspoint
06-15-2022, 12:10 AM
I doubt Bell is going to bring Mahle 2 days later to relieve. Your straw man is burning. While the Redszone beds are burning.

:lol:


Yes, I did mention that condition.

Ironman92
06-15-2022, 12:10 AM
Ah Melancon…the guy who was an ass to my son on HR derby day at 2015 ASG

adkindo
06-15-2022, 12:11 AM
at least we have the speedster Moose on base

podgejeff_
06-15-2022, 12:11 AM
at least we have the speedster Moose on base

Now it's Reynolds.

Kingspoint
06-15-2022, 12:12 AM
Mahle pitched 9 perfect innings.

Farmer blew an easy out.

Both hits were great pitches way out of the strike zone.

Ironman92
06-15-2022, 12:12 AM
Is this move backwards?

redsfan9988
06-15-2022, 12:12 AM
Hey….

The free runner rule is stupid

Larkin Fan
06-15-2022, 12:12 AM
Impressive outing by Mahle. I should have been in bed an hour ago but he's had me glued to the TV.

Kingspoint
06-15-2022, 12:13 AM
Why wouldn't you save Reynolds to PH with Friedl at 2nd Base?

Kc61
06-15-2022, 12:13 AM
Is this move backwards?

LHH.

Kingspoint
06-15-2022, 12:13 AM
Hey….

The free runner rule is stupid

I totally forgot it existed.

Yes. It's stupid.

It does make for an easy decision to let Mahle pitch the 9th.

Tony Cloninger
06-15-2022, 12:14 AM
:lol:


Yes, I did mention that condition.



It was for the other posters who forgot the circumstances. One of the worst decisions Dusty made.

Your man TJ better come through here. Or else.

Kingspoint
06-15-2022, 12:14 AM
Why wouldn't you save Reynolds to PH with Friedl at 2nd Base?

I said this not knowing Friedl was pinch-hitting.

redsfan9988
06-15-2022, 12:15 AM
I totally forgot it existed.

Yes. It's stupid.

It does make for an easy decision to let Mahle pitch the 9th.

I get trying to “shorten the game” or whatever… but who is saying, “I’d watch baseball if it wasn’t for all these damn extra inning games.”

Go Friedl go!

podgejeff_
06-15-2022, 12:15 AM
Friedl comes through!

Let's play add on now.

Kingspoint
06-15-2022, 12:16 AM
R U Kidding me? Friedl comes through with extra bases!

Tony Cloninger
06-15-2022, 12:16 AM
TJ has won this round in the Senzel - Friedl watch.

durl
06-15-2022, 12:16 AM
Friedl delivers? Nice!

OldFashionedRed
06-15-2022, 12:16 AM
I don't know why people are so hard on Friedl. The man is a gamer!

redsfan9988
06-15-2022, 12:17 AM
Reds awful bullpen vs. D’Backs total lack of MLB hitters sets the scene for a “rock and a hard place” matchup in the 9th

adkindo
06-15-2022, 12:17 AM
now you have to get Friedl in

podgejeff_
06-15-2022, 12:17 AM
I don't know why people are so hard on Friedl. The man is a gamer!

If I had to guess it has something to do with the .200/.245/.282/.527 slashline.

Kingspoint
06-15-2022, 12:18 AM
TJ has won this round in the Senzel - Friedl watch.

Senzel won yesterday.

OldFashionedRed
06-15-2022, 12:18 AM
If I had to guess it has something to do with the .200/.245/.282/.527 slashline.

But he's clutch!

adkindo
06-15-2022, 12:18 AM
I don't know why people are so hard on Friedl. The man is a gamer!

me personally, I think his ceiling is fairly low

Kingspoint
06-15-2022, 12:19 AM
If I had to guess it has something to do with the .200/.245/.282/.527 slashline.

That could be anyone on the team.

Ironman92
06-15-2022, 12:19 AM
Dangit India….had to have that run

Pick him up Drury

Kingspoint
06-15-2022, 12:20 AM
I don't know why people are so hard on Friedl. The man is a gamer!

I've always thought that since A-ball.

redsfan9988
06-15-2022, 12:20 AM
Over/under on walks in the bottom of the 10th

1.5

adkindo
06-15-2022, 12:20 AM
pitcher is wearing the wrong hat

Kingspoint
06-15-2022, 12:21 AM
Just saw Friedl's hit. He could have had a Triple.

Ironman92
06-15-2022, 12:21 AM
Oppo open Drury…c mon man

Kingspoint
06-15-2022, 12:22 AM
1 more wild pitch.

redsfan9988
06-15-2022, 12:22 AM
pitcher is wearing the wrong hat

By rule - we must now replay the inning.

Ironman92
06-15-2022, 12:22 AM
Not liking our chances

OldFashionedRed
06-15-2022, 12:22 AM
Fingers crossed!

Kingspoint
06-15-2022, 12:22 AM
now you have to get Friedl in

Friedl is a pretty valuable asset in the situation he just had. But, definitely needs another start.

Tony Cloninger
06-15-2022, 12:23 AM
Senzel won yesterday.


No. We won yesterday. We won. And America.

redsfan9988
06-15-2022, 12:24 AM
Not liking our chances

Reds win probability is only 52% currently.

kaldaniels
06-15-2022, 12:25 AM
I just checked Savant as I wondered how hard Drury hit that ball..

But I stumbled across -

Friedl double - 82 mph EV expected BA .170

Senzel DP - 97 mph EV expected BA .340

Kingspoint
06-15-2022, 12:25 AM
Reds win probability is only 52% currently.

That's ridiculous.

Ky Fried Redleg
06-15-2022, 12:25 AM
Hey….

The free runner rule is stupid

Manfred Man is more than stupid... it's absurd.

Kingspoint
06-15-2022, 12:26 AM
I just checked Savant as I wondered how hard Drury hit that ball..

But I stumbled across -

Friedl double - 82 mph EV expected BA .170

Senzel DP - 97 mph EV expected BA .340

Friedl jumped on that pitch, got in front of it, and pulled it down the line. Perfect technique.

redsfan9988
06-15-2022, 12:26 AM
Welp… infield in time