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Ron Madden
07-02-2022, 12:47 PM
Reds
1. Jonathan India (R) 2B
2. Brandon Drury (R) 3B
3. Tommy Pham (R) LF
4. Joey Votto (L) DH
5. Kyle Farmer (R) SS
6. Mike Moustakas (L) 1B
7. Albert Almora Jr. (R) RF
8. Nick Senzel (R) CF
9. Michael Papierski (S) C
SP Tyler Mahle (R)

Braves
1. Ronald Acuna Jr. (R) RF
2. Dansby Swanson (R) SS
3. Matt Olson (L) 1B
4. Austin Riley (R) 3B
5. Marcell Ozuna (R) DH
6. William Contreras (R) C
7. Adam Duvall (R) LF
8. Orlando Arcia (R) 2B
9. Michael Harris II (L) CF
SP Spencer Strider (R)

Ron Madden
07-02-2022, 03:14 PM
Hope the Reds snap their 9 game home losing streak. I'll be at the ballpark, hope everyone enjoys the game.

KeefeCato
07-02-2022, 04:00 PM
Hope the Reds snap their 9 game home losing streak. I'll be at the ballpark, hope everyone enjoys the game.

At least you get to see Mahle instead of Minor. Although Minor wasn't bad for once last night.

membengal
07-02-2022, 04:02 PM
I've had Strider all year for my fantasy team. Picked him up after seeing him in relief against Reds in the first series. He moved into the starting rotation for the Braves about 5 turns through the rotation ago and he's been REALLY good. Just electric stuff. Fastball between 98 and 100 with some movement and a devastating slider. Shows the occasional change. Able to pound the zone at the knees on the black. Good luck, Reds.

Ky Fried Redleg
07-02-2022, 04:20 PM
Hope the Reds snap their 9 game home losing streak. I'll be at the ballpark, hope everyone enjoys the game.

Ron's in the house! Reds are gonna mash today!!!

Ky Fried Redleg
07-02-2022, 04:24 PM
At least you get to see Mahle instead of Minor. Although Minor wasn't bad for once last night.

Mahle/Minor... probably all the same at the little bandbox we call home. Hope Tyler can keep it in the yard today and give us seven(or more).

Ky Fried Redleg
07-02-2022, 05:08 PM
Got a thunderstorm in progress down here in SE KY. Hope there's no interruptions in the game today.

durl
07-02-2022, 05:16 PM
It's sad when the fans of the away team seems to outnumber the home fans.

GAC
07-02-2022, 05:16 PM
Watching only my second game this year (via streaming). I've been so busy (even retired) I have no "connect" with this year's team at all. Other then they really suck! If they lose today they will have lost twice as many games as they havew won (lol).

NebraskaRed
07-02-2022, 05:17 PM
Pretty impressive double play

Ky Fried Redleg
07-02-2022, 05:18 PM
1-6-3 DP ends a scoreless first for TyMahl.

WrongVerb
07-02-2022, 05:18 PM
Why in the world is .900 OPS Matt Olsen bunting, of all things?

GAC
07-02-2022, 05:20 PM
Bad AB Indy

durl
07-02-2022, 05:21 PM
Got a thunderstorm in progress down here in SE KY. Hope there's no interruptions in the game today.

I'm originally from that area. Howdy, neighbor.

Ky Fried Redleg
07-02-2022, 05:26 PM
Uno Dos Tres for the Reds in the first.

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I'm originally from that area. Howdy, neighbor.

Hello durl. Where from exactly?

GAC
07-02-2022, 05:27 PM
We, as well as the farmers up here, need rain BIG time. Crazy.

cumberlandreds
07-02-2022, 05:28 PM
Strider looks really good.

GAC
07-02-2022, 05:30 PM
Thinkin of going down on the 28th vs the Marlins. It's a 12:35 Businessman Day Special. I still enjoy going to the park and just watching a game. Even these losers! LOL

membengal
07-02-2022, 05:30 PM
Strider looks really good.

Monster stuff. Good idea how to use it.

Ky Fried Redleg
07-02-2022, 05:30 PM
***TODAY"S BASEBALL QUOTE***


"He hated everyone. He even hated Santa Claus. " --- Don Sutton Who was Don talking about ???

GAC
07-02-2022, 05:31 PM
Bye bye

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Riley No doubter 1-0 Braves

membengal
07-02-2022, 05:36 PM
***TODAY"S BASEBALL QUOTE***


"He hated everyone. He even hated Santa Claus. " --- Don Sutton Who was Don talking about ???

Either Bob Gibson or Don Drysdale.

NebraskaRed
07-02-2022, 05:37 PM
Home run, single, walk to start the 2nd

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and now a HBP

cumberlandreds
07-02-2022, 05:38 PM
Either Bob Gibson or Don Drysdale.

Probably Drysdale. He played with him.

757690
07-02-2022, 05:39 PM
Mahle has the Braves right where he wants them.

durl
07-02-2022, 05:39 PM
Will Mahle make it through the 2nd inning?

cumberlandreds
07-02-2022, 05:39 PM
Triple play time.

GAC
07-02-2022, 05:40 PM
Probably Drysdale. He played with him.

Donnie wasn't a likeable fellow. He did appear on an episode of Beverly Hillbillies though. LOL

durl
07-02-2022, 05:40 PM
Uno Dos Tres for the Reds in the first.

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Hello durl. Where from exactly?

Bell County

Ky Fried Redleg
07-02-2022, 05:41 PM
Either Bob Gibson or Don Drysdale.

Here's what Hank Aaron shared with teammate Dusty Baker about facing the subject of today's quote:

"Don’t dig in against him. He’ll knock you down. He’d knock down his own grandmother.
Don’t stare at him. Don’t smile at him. Don’t talk to him. He doesn’t like it.
If you happen to hit a home run, don’t run too slow and don’t run too fast.
If you want to celebrate, get in the tunnel first.
And if he hits you, don’t charge the mound because he’s a Golden Gloves boxer."

NebraskaRed
07-02-2022, 05:41 PM
Wow!

GAC
07-02-2022, 05:41 PM
LMAO

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These are professionals! LOL

NebraskaRed
07-02-2022, 05:42 PM
Now 2 outs

membengal
07-02-2022, 05:43 PM
Braves stupidity on basepaths may bail Mahle out of this inning.

durl
07-02-2022, 05:43 PM
I don't know if I've ever seen a pick-off when the runner at 1B thought there was a walk.

GAC
07-02-2022, 05:43 PM
I hope this "break" invigorates Mahle.

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Mahle 40 pitches

cumberlandreds
07-02-2022, 05:44 PM
Big break may have saved theReds.

NebraskaRed
07-02-2022, 05:45 PM
Lol one of the weirder innings you'll ever see

GAC
07-02-2022, 05:45 PM
Rally by Mahle

Ky Fried Redleg
07-02-2022, 05:45 PM
Bell County

Back in the 70's and '80's Middlesboro was our big rival in football ; a couple decades later it was Bell High.

cumberlandreds
07-02-2022, 05:46 PM
Mahle squirms out of it.

757690
07-02-2022, 05:46 PM
Here's what Hank Aaron shared with teammate Dusty Baker about facing the subject of today's quote:

"Donít dig in against him. Heíll knock you down. Heíd knock down his own grandmother.
Donít stare at him. Donít smile at him. Donít talk to him. He doesnít like it.
If you happen to hit a home run, donít run too slow and donít run too fast.
If you want to celebrate, get in the tunnel first.
And if he hits you, donít charge the mound because heís a Golden Gloves boxer."

Gotta be Gibson. And what Aaron said about him was 100% accurate

durl
07-02-2022, 05:46 PM
I can't believe Mahle got out of a bases-loaded, no-outs situation without giving up a run. I guess that base-running blunder helped him focus.

cumberlandreds
07-02-2022, 05:47 PM
Back in the 70's and '80's Middlesboro was our big rival in football ; a couple decades later it was Bell High.

I watched a couple of those games. Both teams were always good.

NebraskaRed
07-02-2022, 05:48 PM
Larkin's brilliant analysis: the reason they keep losing at home is that they are giving up more runs than they're scoring

GAC
07-02-2022, 05:48 PM
Joey goes down rather easily

KeefeCato
07-02-2022, 05:48 PM
For all the talk about how Bob Gibson would bean you if you hit a HR off him or stared at him etc.
He is tied for 86 place all time in hit batters. Greg Maddux hit far more batters than Gibson.
Seems like he tried to intimidate hitters rather than actually hit them in most cases anyway.
Today's hitter would crowd the plate on him and pile on the armor.
I doubt his most likely 90 mph fastball would intimidate many in today's game.

GAC
07-02-2022, 05:49 PM
Larkin's brilliant analysis: the reason they keep losing at home is that they are giving up more runs than they're scoring

He 's paid by the word.

durl
07-02-2022, 05:49 PM
Back in the 70's and '80's Middlesboro was our big rival in football ; a couple decades later it was Bell High.

Middlesboro had some good football teams. My school never did. lol

GAC
07-02-2022, 05:50 PM
For all the talk about how Bob Gibson would bean you if you hit a HR off him or stared at him etc.
He is tied for 86 place all time in hit batters. Greg Maddux hit far more batters than Gibson.
Seems like he tried to intimidate hitters rather than actually hit them in most cases anyway.

I'm old enough to remember Gibson, and I don't recall that about him at all. He didn't need to hit you. They were scared ****less when they got in the batter's box. The guy threw smoke!

Ky Fried Redleg
07-02-2022, 05:51 PM
I watched a couple of those games. Both teams were always good.

In 1976, I believe Corbin and Middlesboro were the two best teams in the state of Kentucky. A 10-9 win at M'Boro sent Corbin on to win a state title. Btw, Lee Majors, the Six-Million Dollar Man" starred at Middlesboro High School.

durl
07-02-2022, 05:52 PM
Moose Ks at a 100mph pitch at ear-level.

GAC
07-02-2022, 05:52 PM
Our hitter's bat can't catch up to this pitcher.

OldFashionedRed
07-02-2022, 05:53 PM
Is this year Joey's swan song, or is it because of the shifts?

Ky Fried Redleg
07-02-2022, 05:55 PM
Middlesboro had some good football teams. My school never did. lol

Did you go to Pineville?

cumberlandreds
07-02-2022, 05:55 PM
Moose showing the leather today.

KeefeCato
07-02-2022, 05:57 PM
I'm old enough to remember Gibson, and I don't recall that about him at all. He didn't need to hit you. They were scared ****less when they got in the batter's box. The guy threw smoke!

Probably topped out at 92 or so. 90% of the pitchers back then threw 80. So anyone above 90 would've been fast.
Great pitcher no doubt. Not sure how good most of those guys would be today. Everyone throws 98 and up it seems.
70s are my era. And I love 70s baseball. But I doubt few if any could compete in today's game.
Of course they would also have access to today's training methods. So a Gibson in his prime today would probably hit triple digits.

Ky Fried Redleg
07-02-2022, 05:58 PM
I'm old enough to remember Gibson, and I don't recall that about him at all. He didn't need to hit you. They were scared ****less when they got in the batter's box. The guy threw smoke!

Most intimidating guy ever, I think. Batters were scared. Bob had you defeated and pissing your pants before you ever got in the box.

NebraskaRed
07-02-2022, 05:58 PM
Big bounce back inning for Mahle

KeefeCato
07-02-2022, 06:00 PM
Is this year Joey's swan song, or is it because of the shifts?

Shift certainly hurts him. He isn't hitting the ball in the air enough nor is he hitting it hard enough.
Batting averages throughout baseball continue to plummet.
Maybe this will be the last year of the shift. If do I think Votto has a chance to put up a solid season next year.

NebraskaRed
07-02-2022, 06:01 PM
Did Duvall get benched mid-game?

KeefeCato
07-02-2022, 06:04 PM
Did Duvall get benched mid-game?

Possible. But he did get hit by pitch. Could be that.

Fil3232
07-02-2022, 06:05 PM
Strider looks like Roy Oswalt reincarnate. Glad he’s not in the Central.

OldFashionedRed
07-02-2022, 06:06 PM
Shift certainly hurts him. He isn't hitting the ball in the air enough nor is he hitting it hard enough.
Batting averages throughout baseball continue to plummet.
Maybe this will be the last year of the shift. If do I think Votto has a chance to put up a solid season next year.

I'm not saying I disagree, because I don't really know, but can a shift have a realistic, consistent effect on whether someone hits the ball hard or not?

cumberlandreds
07-02-2022, 06:07 PM
1-0 Braves after 3.

membengal
07-02-2022, 06:08 PM
Bobby Nightengale
@nightengalejr

1m
Spencer Strider has struck out 11 of the 16 Reds batters he's faced this season, including a relief outing in April. His fastball is up to 102 mph today and his slider has been near untouchable.

cumberlandreds
07-02-2022, 06:10 PM
Bobby Nightengale
@nightengalejr

1m
Spencer Strider has struck out 11 of the 16 Reds batters he's faced this season, including a relief outing in April. His fastball is up to 102 mph today and his slider has been near untouchable.

Strider is who Greene strives to be.

KeefeCato
07-02-2022, 06:10 PM
Provided they both avoid serious injury from here on out. I bet Strider a 4th round pick has a superior career over Greene.
Shows the difference in organizations a major league one vs. The Reds.
The Reds overall through the years are terrible at the draft. Terrible in player development.

Ky Fried Redleg
07-02-2022, 06:10 PM
*** KFR'S SCOREBOARD STUMPER***

A two -parter:

1. There are only two players in Major League history to have hit 20 or more homeruns in a season for BOTH the Cincinnati Reds and Atlanta Braves? Can you name both players?

2. There are are only three players in the Major League history to have ever stolen 20 or more bases in a season for BOTH the Cincinnati Reds and Atlanta Braves. Can you name all three?

GAC
07-02-2022, 06:11 PM
Ron Gant one of them?

cumberlandreds
07-02-2022, 06:12 PM
*** KFR'S SCOREBOARD STUMPER***

A two -parter:

1. There are only two players in Major League history to have hit 20 or more homeruns in a season for BOTH the Cincinnati Reds and Atlanta Braves? Can you name both players?

2. There are are only three players in the Major League history to have ever stolen 20 or more bases in a season for BOTH the Cincinnati Reds and Atlanta Braves. Can you name all three?


On number 1 I will go with Duvall and Gant. Have to think about number 2.

KeefeCato
07-02-2022, 06:13 PM
I'm not saying I disagree, because I don't really know, but can a shift have a realistic, consistent effect on whether someone hits the ball hard or not?

The shift has no effect on how hard anyone hits the ball.
But Joey has hit some rockets over 100 mph that have been outs due to the shift the last several years. Earlier in his career pre-shift nearly all were hits.

Ky Fried Redleg
07-02-2022, 06:13 PM
Strider looks like Roy Oswalt reincarnate. Glad he’s not in the Central.

Oswalt and Glavine were Reds' killers on the mound.

KeefeCato
07-02-2022, 06:15 PM
On number 1 I will go with Duvall and Gant. Have to think about number 2.

I agree Gant and Duvall. Dion Sanders for steals. Also Gant for steals

mth123
07-02-2022, 06:20 PM
*** KFR'S SCOREBOARD STUMPER***

A two -parter:

1. There are only two players in Major League history to have hit 20 or more homeruns in a season for BOTH the Cincinnati Reds and Atlanta Braves? Can you name both players?

2. There are are only three players in the Major League history to have ever stolen 20 or more bases in a season for BOTH the Cincinnati Reds and Atlanta Braves. Can you name all three?


I think whoever said Gant and Duvall got number 1.

For number two I'll Say Deion Sanders and Reggie Sanders. Still thinking about the 3rd guy

CySeymour
07-02-2022, 06:23 PM
I agree Gant and Duvall. Dion Sanders for steals. Also Gant for steals

For steals, maybe Reggie Sanders?

mth123
07-02-2022, 06:23 PM
I agree Gant and Duvall. Dion Sanders for steals. Also Gant for steals

Deion and Reggie Sanders both. Gant would make three if its him.

KeefeCato
07-02-2022, 06:27 PM
I think whoever said Gant and Duvall got number 1.

For number two I'll Say Deion Sanders and Reggie Sanders. Still thinking about the 3rd guy

I think it's Gant for steals as well as HR.

membengal
07-02-2022, 06:29 PM
Mahle at GABP is just so different from Mahle anywhere else. 89 pitches to get through the 4th. Only 2 runs, but high WHIP and he's maybe only got another inning to offer.

cumberlandreds
07-02-2022, 06:30 PM
2-0 Braves in the 4th. Lets get a hit!

membengal
07-02-2022, 06:32 PM
Joel Luckhaupt
@jluckhaupt

17s
Mahle has two 10-pitch innings and still has thrown 89 pitches through 4 innings.

cumberlandreds
07-02-2022, 06:36 PM
Ron may see a no hitter today.

membengal
07-02-2022, 06:37 PM
Ron may see a no hitter today.

Combined, if so. They won't let Strider get much past 100 pitches. They are careful with his innings and load. But, man, he's good.

cumberlandreds
07-02-2022, 06:41 PM
Combined, if so. They won't let Strider get much past 100 pitches. They are careful with his innings and load. But, man, he's good.

Aren't they all combined these days?

KeefeCato
07-02-2022, 06:43 PM
At least 4 innings if not more for the Reds pen to cover today.
Good times.

icehole3
07-02-2022, 06:45 PM
Wham Bam thank you Pham.

757690
07-02-2022, 06:54 PM
We might be seeing Barrero sooner than expected

icehole3
07-02-2022, 06:55 PM
We might be seeing Barrero sooner than expected

Hate to see it go down like that. He took all of that 100mph FB.

durl
07-02-2022, 06:56 PM
I've never seen Bell so angry. Wow. Is he complaining about the inside pitches?

icehole3
07-02-2022, 06:56 PM
There goes the crazy Bell.

Red Raindog
07-02-2022, 06:57 PM
I've never seen Bell so angry. Wow. Is he complaining about the inside pitches?

No idea but when it comes to Bell thatís not unusual for me


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Coopdaddy67
07-02-2022, 06:59 PM
Let's be honest, if you were Bell and had to watch this team on a daily basis you'd be trying to break Bobby Cox's record too.

icehole3
07-02-2022, 07:00 PM
I'm sure Bell didn't want to sit through the no hitter. Go sit in the AC pull the Jack Daniels out of the desk drawer.

coryfly
07-02-2022, 07:01 PM
Yeah, I don't know why he was so mad. I thought if he wanted to mad about balls and strikes last night would have been the night. He was pretty calm until he was thrown out.

KeefeCato
07-02-2022, 07:02 PM
Okay so I saw Farmer get hit. Go to 1b. Then I stepped outside for a couple minutes with my dog. What happened with Bell. I come back see Reynolds go to 2b.

Red Raindog
07-02-2022, 07:04 PM
Okay so I saw Farmer get hit. Go to 1b. Then I stepped outside for a couple minutes with my dog. What happened with Bell. I come back see Reynolds go to 2b.

Bell got himself tossed before a wild pitch


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VR
07-02-2022, 07:07 PM
Yeah, I don't know why he was so mad. I thought if he wanted to mad about balls and strikes last night would have been the night. He was pretty calm until he was thrown out.

Bellís all time favorite player got hit and hurt. Darn tootin heís gonna flip out. What happens now? Bring up the rookie in a 110 loss season? What a waste that would be.


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KeefeCato
07-02-2022, 07:08 PM
Farmer stands on top of the plate and lunges into the pitch. Same with India

Obviously I don't wanna see Farmer hurt. But it's time for Barrero.
I know he isn't hitting in AAA. But he can pick it at SS.
He has twice the range Farmer has. Farmer has next to no range at SS. He shouldn't be playing SS at the major league level. Not his fault though that's the Reds fault.
Farmer has to be the least athletic of any starting major league SS.
This Reds team as a whole has to be the least athletic team in baseball.

Coopdaddy67
07-02-2022, 07:09 PM
Okay so I saw Farmer get hit. Go to 1b. Then I stepped outside for a couple minutes with my dog. What happened with Bell. I come back see Reynolds go to 2b.

He intentionally got himself ejected defending Farmer and to mess with Strider's head.

Tony Cloninger
07-02-2022, 07:14 PM
Not Farmers fault Bell plays favorites with him. Farmer is an ok player who would be welcome on the bench of a contender.

I hope Barrero gets all the starts at SS too. He’s just going to take a lot of patience.

OldFashionedRed
07-02-2022, 07:16 PM
I'm sure zero will agree with me on this lol, but I don't think the Reds failures this season are all because of lack of talent, aging players. I think Bell is part and parcel with what happened at the beginning of the season, and it wasn't just Phil and it wasn't just injuries. Bell is a bit too easy on the guys, IMO. I see him over there seething, and I told my husband "I don't see how he's able to take it day in and day out". Bell is about to meet his maker :)

Ky Fried Redleg
07-02-2022, 07:19 PM
**RETRO 4th of JULY BASEBALL FLASHBASK ***

July 4, 1985. Mets @ Braves. One of the craziest games I ever watched. I was 22 y.o. and we were on vacation for the 4th of July weekend in Fairfield Glade, TN. I was in the condo watching the game on WTBS out of Atlanta. Had three lengthy rain delays and a lot of hitting. Mets manager Davey Johnson and Darryl Strawberry ere both ejected in the 17th for arguing. Keith Hernandez hit for the cycle. The Mets had 28 hits in the game. The Mets took a 11-10 lead in the top of the 18th .

The bottom of the 18th was where the game went from crazy to unfathomable. The first two Braves' batters had been retired and Atlanta had no position players left to send to the plate. They were stuck with having to bat reliever Rick Camp, a lifetime 0.060 hitter. His hitting was often the butt of jokes among Braves' announcers.

The game started at 7:05 pm and it was more the EIGHT hours since the start . But dammit, I was gonna see this one through. Even though it was 3:20 am , I was gonna watch the last pitch. The 45,000 that was in attendance at 7:05 pm had dwindled to well under 4,500. And most of them stayed because they had been promised a 4th of July fireworks display at game's end.

Camp gets down quickly 0-2 to Mets lefty Tom Gorman . John Sterling and Ernie Johnson on the call :

(Note: A couple things to watch for. Watch Gary Carter wave the outfield in when Camp steps in. Also, watch Mets' 3B Ray Knight throw his arms up as the ball leaves Camp's bat. Also, watch Mets' LF Danny Heep put his hands to his head as the ball sails over the fence. Lenny Dykstra looks exasperated as he picks himself up off the ground.)



https://youtu.be/HVpjWNfnHww

Kc61
07-02-2022, 07:27 PM
Farmer stands on top of the plate and lunges into the pitch. Same with India

Obviously I don't wanna see Farmer hurt. But it's time for Barrero.
I know he isn't hitting in AAA. But he can pick it at SS.
He has twice the range Farmer has. Farmer has next to no range at SS. He shouldn't be playing SS at the major league level. Not his fault though that's the Reds fault.
Farmer has to be the least athletic of any starting major league SS.
This Reds team as a whole has to be the least athletic team in baseball.

Maybe Farmer would be better off at third base. But he’s hitting .280 against big league pitching and Barrero is hitting .207 against AAA pitching. With 40% strikeouts.

You can’t just breeze past that. Maybe Jose’s injury still needs time.

KeefeCato
07-02-2022, 07:30 PM
**RETRO 4th of JULY BASEBALL FLASHBASK ***

July 4, 1985. Mets @ Braves. One of the craziest games I ever watched. I was 22 y.o. and we were on vacation for the 4th of July weekend in Fairfield Glade, TN. I was in the condo watching the game on WTBS out of Atlanta. Had three lengthy rain delays and a lot of hitting. Mets manager Davey Johnson and Darryl Strawberry ere both ejected in the 17th for arguing. Keith Hernandez hit for the cycle. The Mets had 28 hits in the game. The Mets took a 11-10 lead in the top of the 18th .

The bottom of the 18th was where the game went from crazy to unfathomable. The first two Braves' batters had been retired and Atlanta had no position players left to send to the plate. They were stuck with having to bat reliever Rick Camp, a lifetime 0.060 hitter. His hitting was often the butt of jokes among Braves' announcers.

The game started at 7:05 pm and it was more the EIGHT hours since the start . But dammit, I was gonna see this one through. Even though it was 3:20 am , I was gonna watch the last pitch. The 45,000 that was in attendance at 7:05 pm had dwindled to well under 4,500. And most of them stayed because they had been promised a 4th of July fireworks display at game's end.

Camp gets down quickly 0-2 to Mets lefty Tom Gorman . John Sterling and Ernie Johnson on the call :

(Note: A couple things to watch for. Watch Gary Carter wave the outfield in when Camp steps in. Also, watch Mets' 3B Ray Knight throw his arms up as the ball leaves Camp's bat. Also, watch Mets' LF Danny Heep put his hands to his head as the ball sails over the fence. Lenny Dykstra looks exasperated as he picks himself up off the ground.)



https://youtu.be/HVpjWNfnHww

I literally never woke up in the middle of the night. I fell asleep with that game on. Woke up to see Camp's HR.
I wish I could say that now. I never sleep more than 4 hours without waking up.
Camp spent time in prison for stealing money later on. He passed away a few years back RIP.

cumberlandreds
07-02-2022, 07:31 PM
Reiver the retriever is in the game.

KeefeCato
07-02-2022, 07:33 PM
Maybe Farmer would be better off at third base. But he’s hitting .280 against big league pitching and Barrero is hitting .207 against AAA pitching. With 40% strikeouts.

You can’t just breeze past that. Maybe Jose’s injury still needs time.

Farmer is very useful. I think he is fine as a platoon guy. Or even to fill in at SS short term due to injury.
Farmer, Solano, Pham, and Drury. Most likely all 4 are platoon guys on contending teams.
I would guess at least two from this group will be dealt to a contender.
Or at least IMO they should be.

cumberlandreds
07-02-2022, 07:33 PM
I literally never woke up in the middle of the night. I fell asleep with that game on. Woke up to see Camp's HR.
I wish I could say that now. I never sleep more than 4 hours without waking up.
Camp spent time in prison for stealing money later on. He passed away a few years back RIP.

Really? I never knew that about Camp. I started watching that game back then but gave up on it sometime after midnight.

durl
07-02-2022, 07:33 PM
Really not sure why they brought in Sanmartin. But I'm also not sure why he's in the majors.

KeefeCato
07-02-2022, 07:35 PM
I'm sure zero will agree with me on this lol, but I don't think the Reds failures this season are all because of lack of talent, aging players. I think Bell is part and parcel with what happened at the beginning of the season, and it wasn't just Phil and it wasn't just injuries. Bell is a bit too easy on the guys, IMO. I see him over there seething, and I told my husband "I don't see how he's able to take it day in and day out". Bell is about to meet his maker :)

No manager is going to be hard on players. Those days are gone.

durl
07-02-2022, 07:36 PM
No manager is going to be hard on players. Those days are gone.

Baseball was more fun when managers were more strict.

cumberlandreds
07-02-2022, 07:37 PM
4-1 Braves in the 7th.

KeefeCato
07-02-2022, 07:38 PM
Really? I never knew that about Camp. I started watching that game back then but gave up on it sometime after midnight.

I can't remember the details. But he spent a few years in prison for stealing money from some organization. Seems like others were in on it with him. But I don't think they were ball players. Maybe a friend? Or should I say a bad friend.

cumberlandreds
07-02-2022, 07:39 PM
I'm sure zero will agree with me on this lol, but I don't think the Reds failures this season are all because of lack of talent, aging players. I think Bell is part and parcel with what happened at the beginning of the season, and it wasn't just Phil and it wasn't just injuries. Bell is a bit too easy on the guys, IMO. I see him over there seething, and I told my husband "I don't see how he's able to take it day in and day out". Bell is about to meet his maker :)

You are right. No one will. Reds have bad players period. Wouldn't matter who the manager is.

Kc61
07-02-2022, 07:44 PM
Farmer is very useful. I think he is fine as a platoon guy. Or even to fill in at SS short term due to injury.
Farmer, Solano, Pham, and Drury. Most likely all 4 are platoon guys on contending teams.
I would guess at least two from this group will be dealt to a contender.
Or at least IMO they should be.

You can trade all these guys. You can view them all as backups.

But that doesn’t change Barrero’s current BA, OPS or K rate against minor league pitching.

Not sure why Jose is the one who’s a big league starter right now.

KeefeCato
07-02-2022, 07:44 PM
Baseball was more fun when managers were more strict.

Managers are pretty much just a guy on the bench these days. With the DH in the NL now they have even less to do.

Bell has 8 horrible bullpen choices. I see people are here saying I can't believe Cessa or Kuhnel are on this team. Or pick a name.
Frankly outside of Hoffman none on the active roster belongs on it. Hoffman would probably be on some other teams serving the long man /mop up role. Even he is borderline.

icehole3
07-02-2022, 07:45 PM
You are right. No one will. Reds have bad players period. Wouldn't matter who the manager is.

I wish the Reds would take the approach the Rays and Marlins take.

Ky Fried Redleg
07-02-2022, 07:46 PM
Really? I never knew that about Camp. I started watching that game back then but gave up on it sometime after midnight.

Used to love watching games on WTBS, along with Georgia Championship Wrestling.

The Rick Camp game ended at 3:55 am. The Mets scored five times in the top of the 19th off Camp but the Braves rallied(of course they did) for two runs in the bottom of the inning and had the tying run at the plate in noneother than...Rick Camp, who struck out against Ron Darling. Now, if Camp had homered a second time to tie it up again, I would have looked for Rod Serling to appear. Btw, the fireworks started at about 4:05 am. Some folks in Atlanta were awakened in their sleep, thinking the city was under attack. It wasn't General Sherman who mounted the offensive in Atlanta that early morning, however. It was Rick Camp. (RIP)

KeefeCato
07-02-2022, 07:46 PM
You can trade all these guys. You can view them all as backups.

But that doesn’t change Barrero’s current BA, OPS or K rate.

Nope it doesn't. But now is the time to get him some major league experience. He may never hit in the majors. But they need to find out. I've saw guys from time to time actually get a boost of confidence when being named a starter in the majors and actually preform better than they did in the minors.

OldFashionedRed
07-02-2022, 07:48 PM
No manager is going to be hard on players. Those days are gone.

Maybe the popular response is it's not going to change so move on, but takes a minority to make a majority haha.

cumberlandreds
07-02-2022, 07:50 PM
Used to love watching games on WTBS, along with Georgia Championship Wrestling.

The Rick Camp game ended at 3:55 am. The Mets scored five times in the top of the 19th off Camp but the Braves rallied(of course they did) for two runs in the bottom of the inning and had the tying run at the plate in noneother than...Rick Camp, who struck out against Ron Darling. Now, if Camp had homered a second time to tie it up again, I would have looked for Rod Serling to appear. Btw, the fireworks started at about 4:05 am. Some folks in Atlanta were awakened in their sleep, thinking the city was under attack. It wasn't General Sherman who mounted the offensive in Atlanta that early morning, however. It was Rick Camp. (RIP)

I watched the Braves and Cubs every day back in the 80s. Kept score most games too. Even if the teams were bad it was great fun to watch every day.

Ky Fried Redleg
07-02-2022, 07:52 PM
*** KFR'S SCOREBOARD STUMPER***

A two -parter:

1. There are only two players in Major League history to have hit 20 or more homeruns in a season for BOTH the Cincinnati Reds and Atlanta Braves? Can you name both players?

2. There are are only three players in the Major League history to have ever stolen 20 or more bases in a season for BOTH the Cincinnati Reds and Atlanta Braves. Can you name all three?


1. Ron Gant , Bret Boone

2. Deion Sanders , Reggie Sanders, Ron Gant

KeefeCato
07-02-2022, 07:54 PM
Maybe the popular response is it's not going to change so move on, but takes a minority to make a majority haha.

I'm fine if Bell is fired today. It won't change anything though. This is the worst Reds team in history. Talent level vs. The top teams heck vs. The .500 teams even. Is a huge difference. The Cubs and Pirates are terrible. But both teams especially the Pirates have some good looking young lalent on the roster.
I highly doubt most of us ever live to see the Reds win a playoff series much less a world series.
Organization needs completely blown up and restarted from scratch. New owners. New GM . All new minor league coaches. Everyone needs to go.
I'd say it's just as likely the Reds relocate in our lifetime as it is they win a world series.
MLB might step in and block any move for them to relocate. But does MLB powers even care about tradition? Doubtful.

cumberlandreds
07-02-2022, 08:13 PM
4-1 last chance for Redlegs. Who will the hero be?

Ky Fried Redleg
07-02-2022, 08:21 PM
- - - Updated - - -


4-1 last chance for Redlegs. Who will the hero be?

Hal King?

Ky Fried Redleg
07-02-2022, 08:25 PM
500K Salary guy hitting for 16 mil guy. Come on Donnie baseball.

cumberlandreds
07-02-2022, 08:26 PM
Almost a Hal King moment.

durl
07-02-2022, 08:26 PM
Pitcher walks 2 and hits a third and you swing at the first pitch?

Ky Fried Redleg
07-02-2022, 08:27 PM
Wow ! Almora almost channeled Hal.

Sassy Sal
07-02-2022, 08:27 PM
One hit! Impressive.

LeatherPants
07-02-2022, 08:29 PM
You can trade all these guys. You can view them all as backups.

But that doesnít change Barreroís current BA, OPS or K rate against minor league pitching.

Not sure why Jose is the one whoís a big league starter right now.


Because itís a lost season and Farmer isnít going to be around for the next good Reds team. Get Jose up here and play him everyday.

Ky Fried Redleg
07-02-2022, 08:30 PM
Almost a Hal King moment.

I was looking forward to winning 60 of the next 80.

cumberlandreds
07-02-2022, 08:30 PM
Ten straight home losses. Most since 86 Reds lost 11 straight. That 86 team was pretty good. They had 86 wins. Don't think this team will make that number.

KeefeCato
07-02-2022, 08:31 PM
I was looking forward to winning 60 of the next 80.

They may win 25 of the next 80. Maybe.

cumberlandreds
07-02-2022, 08:33 PM
One hit! Impressive.

I blame Ron. He used up all his hits and runs the last game he went to. :)

Ky Fried Redleg
07-02-2022, 08:35 PM
Reds are still averaging 10.5 runs/gm over Ron's last two games attended.

KeefeCato
07-02-2022, 08:36 PM
Ten straight home losses. Most since 86 Reds lost 11 straight. That 86 team was pretty good. They had 88 wins. Don't think this team will make that number.

Those 85-88 teams were exciting to watch. Just a couple starting pitchers away from winning a few divisions.
A 82 83 Soto performance would have really helped them.
Houston or who ever happened to be in first during that 4 year period. They could never win head to head against and over take them.
I wish last year's squad would have had a bullpen as good as those teams did.

durl
07-02-2022, 08:36 PM
They may win 25 of the next 80. Maybe.

I think they'll be lucky to win 20.

membengal
07-02-2022, 08:40 PM
I've had Strider all year for my fantasy team. Picked him up after seeing him in relief against Reds in the first series. He moved into the starting rotation for the Braves about 5 turns through the rotation ago and he's been REALLY good. Just electric stuff. Fastball between 98 and 100 with some movement and a devastating slider. Shows the occasional change. Able to pound the zone at the knees on the black. Good luck, Reds.

102 I meant. 98 and 102.

Ky Fried Redleg
07-02-2022, 08:54 PM
Reds need to go 37-48 the rest of the way to avoid 100 losses. Will they do it?

cumberlandreds
07-02-2022, 09:05 PM
Reds need to go 37-48 the rest of the way to avoid 100 losses. Will they do it?

I can't see this team as it is now winning 37 games. I know a couple of guys are about ready to come off the IL but I'm not sure that's enough for that many wins.

OldFashionedRed
07-02-2022, 09:39 PM
I think they'll be lucky to win 20.

It's going to take some guys, who are the ends of their careers, getting hot. It wasn't that long ago when they were what 13-15 games under .500 and we were all thinking that maybe just maybe they had a comeback in them? Not that long ago we won what, six games in a row?

durl
07-02-2022, 10:44 PM
It's going to take some guys, who are the ends of their careers, getting hot. It wasn't that long ago when they were what 13-15 games under .500 and we were all thinking that maybe just maybe they had a comeback in them? Not that long ago we won what, six games in a row?

This is true. I had some hope after they had a winning May but the June record of 9-18, combined with what little talent we have being traded away soon, makes me think this club won't win at a 30% clip.

Ky Fried Redleg
07-02-2022, 11:28 PM
I can't see this team as it is now winning 37 games. I know a couple of guys are about ready to come off the IL but I'm not sure that's enough for that many wins.

Plus, will we have Castillo and/or Mahle after the trade deadline? May be an uphill climb to avoid 100 L's.

Ron Madden
07-03-2022, 08:22 AM
We had a family get together at my daughters house after we left the ballpark and by the time my wife and I got home I was too tired to check in on the game thread.

It seemed like half the crowd were all Atlanta fans. Spencer Strider dominated the Reds lineup he looked untouchable. At least the score was close until the bullpen showed up.

From where we were sitting, half way down the RF line, when the ball left Almora's bat with 2 out and the bases loaded I thought it had a shot to be a game winning grand slam. Seemed like everyone around us thought so too.

I enjoyed listening to three guys sitting in front of us discuss the game, I guess they were in their early 20's and I think it must have been one guys first Reds game in person by some of the things he said and questions he asked the other two. One thing he said was it doesn't look like Mahle throws the ball this hard watching him pitch on tv, then when he saw Striker he kept saying WOW! lol

They were having a good time even though the Reds couldn't hardly buy a hit.

Wish Almora's fly ball would've left the yard, haven't been to a Reds walk off in what seems like forever.

mth123
07-03-2022, 11:34 AM
Nope it doesn't. But now is the time to get him some major league experience. He may never hit in the majors. But they need to find out. I've saw guys from time to time actually get a boost of confidence when being named a starter in the majors and actually preform better than they did in the minors.

Now is not the time. Handing guys jobs just because is a whole lot of the problem in the organization. How many times do we need to see it fail?

I'd play Reynolds at SS and call up a Stuart Fairchild if Farmer hits the IL.