7-2-22 Reds vs Braves 4:10

[Ron Madden]

Reds
1. Jonathan India (R) 2B
2. Brandon Drury (R) 3B
3. Tommy Pham (R) LF
4. Joey Votto (L) DH
5. Kyle Farmer (R) SS
6. Mike Moustakas (L) 1B
7. Albert Almora Jr. (R) RF
8. Nick Senzel (R) CF
9. Michael Papierski (S) C
SP Tyler Mahle (R)

Braves
1. Ronald Acuna Jr. (R) RF
2. Dansby Swanson (R) SS
3. Matt Olson (L) 1B
4. Austin Riley (R) 3B
5. Marcell Ozuna (R) DH
6. William Contreras (R) C
7. Adam Duvall (R) LF
8. Orlando Arcia (R) 2B
9. Michael Harris II (L) CF
SP Spencer Strider (R)

[Ron Madden]

Hope the Reds snap their 9 game home losing streak. I'll be at the ballpark, hope everyone enjoys the game.

[KeefeCato]

Hope the Reds snap their 9 game home losing streak. I'll be at the ballpark, hope everyone enjoys the game.

At least you get to see Mahle instead of Minor. Although Minor wasn't bad for once last night.

[membengal]

I've had Strider all year for my fantasy team. Picked him up after seeing him in relief against Reds in the first series. He moved into the starting rotation for the Braves about 5 turns through the rotation ago and he's been REALLY good. Just electric stuff. Fastball between 98 and 100 with some movement and a devastating slider. Shows the occasional change. Able to pound the zone at the knees on the black. Good luck, Reds.

[Ky Fried Redleg]

Hope the Reds snap their 9 game home losing streak. I'll be at the ballpark, hope everyone enjoys the game.

Ron's in the house! Reds are gonna mash today!!!

[Ky Fried Redleg]

At least you get to see Mahle instead of Minor. Although Minor wasn't bad for once last night.

Mahle/Minor... probably all the same at the little bandbox we call home. Hope Tyler can keep it in the yard today and give us seven(or more).

[Ky Fried Redleg]

Got a thunderstorm in progress down here in SE KY. Hope there's no interruptions in the game today.

[durl]

It's sad when the fans of the away team seems to outnumber the home fans.

[GAC]

Watching only my second game this year (via streaming). I've been so busy (even retired) I have no "connect" with this year's team at all. Other then they really suck! If they lose today they will have lost twice as many games as they havew won (lol).

[NebraskaRed]

Pretty impressive double play

[Ky Fried Redleg]

1-6-3 DP ends a scoreless first for TyMahl.

[WrongVerb]

Why in the world is .900 OPS Matt Olsen bunting, of all things?

[GAC]

Bad AB Indy

[durl]

Got a thunderstorm in progress down here in SE KY. Hope there's no interruptions in the game today.

I'm originally from that area. Howdy, neighbor.

[Ky Fried Redleg]

Uno Dos Tres for the Reds in the first.

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I'm originally from that area. Howdy, neighbor.

Hello durl. Where from exactly?

[GAC]

We, as well as the farmers up here, need rain BIG time. Crazy.

[cumberlandreds]

Strider looks really good.

[GAC]

Thinkin of going down on the 28th vs the Marlins. It's a 12:35 Businessman Day Special. I still enjoy going to the park and just watching a game. Even these losers! LOL

[membengal]

Strider looks really good.

Monster stuff. Good idea how to use it.

[Ky Fried Redleg]

***TODAY"S BASEBALL QUOTE***


"He hated everyone. He even hated Santa Claus. " --- Don Sutton Who was Don talking about ???

[GAC]

Bye bye

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Riley No doubter 1-0 Braves

[membengal]

***TODAY"S BASEBALL QUOTE***


"He hated everyone. He even hated Santa Claus. " --- Don Sutton Who was Don talking about ???

Either Bob Gibson or Don Drysdale.

[NebraskaRed]

Home run, single, walk to start the 2nd

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and now a HBP

[cumberlandreds]

Either Bob Gibson or Don Drysdale.

Probably Drysdale. He played with him.

[757690]

Mahle has the Braves right where he wants them.

[durl]

Will Mahle make it through the 2nd inning?

[cumberlandreds]

Triple play time.

[GAC]

Probably Drysdale. He played with him.

Donnie wasn't a likeable fellow. He did appear on an episode of Beverly Hillbillies though. LOL

[durl]

Uno Dos Tres for the Reds in the first.

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Hello durl. Where from exactly?

Bell County

[Ky Fried Redleg]

Either Bob Gibson or Don Drysdale.

Here's what Hank Aaron shared with teammate Dusty Baker about facing the subject of today's quote:

"Don’t dig in against him. He’ll knock you down. He’d knock down his own grandmother.
Don’t stare at him. Don’t smile at him. Don’t talk to him. He doesn’t like it.
If you happen to hit a home run, don’t run too slow and don’t run too fast.
If you want to celebrate, get in the tunnel first.
And if he hits you, don’t charge the mound because he’s a Golden Gloves boxer."

[NebraskaRed]

Wow!

[GAC]

LMAO

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These are professionals! LOL

[NebraskaRed]

Now 2 outs

[membengal]

Braves stupidity on basepaths may bail Mahle out of this inning.

[durl]

I don't know if I've ever seen a pick-off when the runner at 1B thought there was a walk.

[GAC]

I hope this "break" invigorates Mahle.

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Mahle 40 pitches

[cumberlandreds]

Big break may have saved theReds.

[NebraskaRed]

Lol one of the weirder innings you'll ever see

[GAC]

Rally by Mahle

[Ky Fried Redleg]

Bell County

Back in the 70's and '80's Middlesboro was our big rival in football ; a couple decades later it was Bell High.

[cumberlandreds]

Mahle squirms out of it.

[757690]

Here's what Hank Aaron shared with teammate Dusty Baker about facing the subject of today's quote:

"Don’t dig in against him. He’ll knock you down. He’d knock down his own grandmother.
Don’t stare at him. Don’t smile at him. Don’t talk to him. He doesn’t like it.
If you happen to hit a home run, don’t run too slow and don’t run too fast.
If you want to celebrate, get in the tunnel first.
And if he hits you, don’t charge the mound because he’s a Golden Gloves boxer."

Gotta be Gibson. And what Aaron said about him was 100% accurate

[durl]

I can't believe Mahle got out of a bases-loaded, no-outs situation without giving up a run. I guess that base-running blunder helped him focus.

[cumberlandreds]

Back in the 70's and '80's Middlesboro was our big rival in football ; a couple decades later it was Bell High.

I watched a couple of those games. Both teams were always good.

[NebraskaRed]

Larkin's brilliant analysis: the reason they keep losing at home is that they are giving up more runs than they're scoring

[GAC]

Joey goes down rather easily

[KeefeCato]

For all the talk about how Bob Gibson would bean you if you hit a HR off him or stared at him etc.
He is tied for 86 place all time in hit batters. Greg Maddux hit far more batters than Gibson.
Seems like he tried to intimidate hitters rather than actually hit them in most cases anyway.
Today's hitter would crowd the plate on him and pile on the armor.
I doubt his most likely 90 mph fastball would intimidate many in today's game.

[GAC]

Larkin's brilliant analysis: the reason they keep losing at home is that they are giving up more runs than they're scoring

He 's paid by the word.

[durl]

Back in the 70's and '80's Middlesboro was our big rival in football ; a couple decades later it was Bell High.

Middlesboro had some good football teams. My school never did. lol

[GAC]

For all the talk about how Bob Gibson would bean you if you hit a HR off him or stared at him etc.
He is tied for 86 place all time in hit batters. Greg Maddux hit far more batters than Gibson.
Seems like he tried to intimidate hitters rather than actually hit them in most cases anyway.

I'm old enough to remember Gibson, and I don't recall that about him at all. He didn't need to hit you. They were scared ****less when they got in the batter's box. The guy threw smoke!

[Ky Fried Redleg]

I watched a couple of those games. Both teams were always good.

In 1976, I believe Corbin and Middlesboro were the two best teams in the state of Kentucky. A 10-9 win at M'Boro sent Corbin on to win a state title. Btw, Lee Majors, the Six-Million Dollar Man" starred at Middlesboro High School.

[durl]

Moose Ks at a 100mph pitch at ear-level.

[GAC]

Our hitter's bat can't catch up to this pitcher.

[OldFashionedRed]

Is this year Joey's swan song, or is it because of the shifts?

[Ky Fried Redleg]

Middlesboro had some good football teams. My school never did. lol

Did you go to Pineville?

[cumberlandreds]

Moose showing the leather today.

[KeefeCato]

I'm old enough to remember Gibson, and I don't recall that about him at all. He didn't need to hit you. They were scared ****less when they got in the batter's box. The guy threw smoke!

Probably topped out at 92 or so. 90% of the pitchers back then threw 80. So anyone above 90 would've been fast.
Great pitcher no doubt. Not sure how good most of those guys would be today. Everyone throws 98 and up it seems.
70s are my era. And I love 70s baseball. But I doubt few if any could compete in today's game.
Of course they would also have access to today's training methods. So a Gibson in his prime today would probably hit triple digits.

[Ky Fried Redleg]

I'm old enough to remember Gibson, and I don't recall that about him at all. He didn't need to hit you. They were scared ****less when they got in the batter's box. The guy threw smoke!

Most intimidating guy ever, I think. Batters were scared. Bob had you defeated and pissing your pants before you ever got in the box.

[NebraskaRed]

Big bounce back inning for Mahle

[KeefeCato]

Is this year Joey's swan song, or is it because of the shifts?

Shift certainly hurts him. He isn't hitting the ball in the air enough nor is he hitting it hard enough.
Batting averages throughout baseball continue to plummet.
Maybe this will be the last year of the shift. If do I think Votto has a chance to put up a solid season next year.

[NebraskaRed]

Did Duvall get benched mid-game?

[KeefeCato]

Did Duvall get benched mid-game?

Possible. But he did get hit by pitch. Could be that.

[Fil3232]

Strider looks like Roy Oswalt reincarnate. Glad he’s not in the Central.

[OldFashionedRed]

Shift certainly hurts him. He isn't hitting the ball in the air enough nor is he hitting it hard enough.
Batting averages throughout baseball continue to plummet.
Maybe this will be the last year of the shift. If do I think Votto has a chance to put up a solid season next year.

I'm not saying I disagree, because I don't really know, but can a shift have a realistic, consistent effect on whether someone hits the ball hard or not?

[cumberlandreds]

1-0 Braves after 3.

[membengal]

Bobby Nightengale
@nightengalejr
·
1m
Spencer Strider has struck out 11 of the 16 Reds batters he's faced this season, including a relief outing in April. His fastball is up to 102 mph today and his slider has been near untouchable.

[cumberlandreds]

Bobby Nightengale
@nightengalejr
·
1m
Spencer Strider has struck out 11 of the 16 Reds batters he's faced this season, including a relief outing in April. His fastball is up to 102 mph today and his slider has been near untouchable.

Strider is who Greene strives to be.

[KeefeCato]

Provided they both avoid serious injury from here on out. I bet Strider a 4th round pick has a superior career over Greene.
Shows the difference in organizations a major league one vs. The Reds.
The Reds overall through the years are terrible at the draft. Terrible in player development.

[Ky Fried Redleg]

*** KFR'S SCOREBOARD STUMPER***

A two -parter:

1. There are only two players in Major League history to have hit 20 or more homeruns in a season for BOTH the Cincinnati Reds and Atlanta Braves? Can you name both players?

2. There are are only three players in the Major League history to have ever stolen 20 or more bases in a season for BOTH the Cincinnati Reds and Atlanta Braves. Can you name all three?

[GAC]

Ron Gant one of them?

[cumberlandreds]

*** KFR'S SCOREBOARD STUMPER***

A two -parter:

1. There are only two players in Major League history to have hit 20 or more homeruns in a season for BOTH the Cincinnati Reds and Atlanta Braves? Can you name both players?

2. There are are only three players in the Major League history to have ever stolen 20 or more bases in a season for BOTH the Cincinnati Reds and Atlanta Braves. Can you name all three?


On number 1 I will go with Duvall and Gant. Have to think about number 2.

[KeefeCato]

I'm not saying I disagree, because I don't really know, but can a shift have a realistic, consistent effect on whether someone hits the ball hard or not?

The shift has no effect on how hard anyone hits the ball.
But Joey has hit some rockets over 100 mph that have been outs due to the shift the last several years. Earlier in his career pre-shift nearly all were hits.

[Ky Fried Redleg]

Strider looks like Roy Oswalt reincarnate. Glad he’s not in the Central.

Oswalt and Glavine were Reds' killers on the mound.

[KeefeCato]

On number 1 I will go with Duvall and Gant. Have to think about number 2.

I agree Gant and Duvall. Dion Sanders for steals. Also Gant for steals

[mth123]

*** KFR'S SCOREBOARD STUMPER***

A two -parter:

1. There are only two players in Major League history to have hit 20 or more homeruns in a season for BOTH the Cincinnati Reds and Atlanta Braves? Can you name both players?

2. There are are only three players in the Major League history to have ever stolen 20 or more bases in a season for BOTH the Cincinnati Reds and Atlanta Braves. Can you name all three?


I think whoever said Gant and Duvall got number 1.

For number two I'll Say Deion Sanders and Reggie Sanders. Still thinking about the 3rd guy

[CySeymour]

I agree Gant and Duvall. Dion Sanders for steals. Also Gant for steals

For steals, maybe Reggie Sanders?

[mth123]

I agree Gant and Duvall. Dion Sanders for steals. Also Gant for steals

Deion and Reggie Sanders both. Gant would make three if its him.

[KeefeCato]

I think whoever said Gant and Duvall got number 1.

For number two I'll Say Deion Sanders and Reggie Sanders. Still thinking about the 3rd guy

I think it's Gant for steals as well as HR.

[membengal]

Mahle at GABP is just so different from Mahle anywhere else. 89 pitches to get through the 4th. Only 2 runs, but high WHIP and he's maybe only got another inning to offer.

[cumberlandreds]

2-0 Braves in the 4th. Lets get a hit!

[membengal]

Joel Luckhaupt
@jluckhaupt
·
17s
Mahle has two 10-pitch innings and still has thrown 89 pitches through 4 innings.

[cumberlandreds]

Ron may see a no hitter today.

[membengal]

Ron may see a no hitter today.

Combined, if so. They won't let Strider get much past 100 pitches. They are careful with his innings and load. But, man, he's good.

[cumberlandreds]

Combined, if so. They won't let Strider get much past 100 pitches. They are careful with his innings and load. But, man, he's good.

Aren't they all combined these days?

[KeefeCato]

At least 4 innings if not more for the Reds pen to cover today.
Good times.

[icehole3]

Wham Bam thank you Pham.

[757690]

We might be seeing Barrero sooner than expected

[icehole3]

We might be seeing Barrero sooner than expected

Hate to see it go down like that. He took all of that 100mph FB.

[durl]

I've never seen Bell so angry. Wow. Is he complaining about the inside pitches?

[icehole3]

There goes the crazy Bell.

[Red Raindog]

I've never seen Bell so angry. Wow. Is he complaining about the inside pitches?

No idea but when it comes to Bell that’s not unusual for me


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[Coopdaddy67]

Let's be honest, if you were Bell and had to watch this team on a daily basis you'd be trying to break Bobby Cox's record too.

[icehole3]

I'm sure Bell didn't want to sit through the no hitter. Go sit in the AC pull the Jack Daniels out of the desk drawer.

[coryfly]

Yeah, I don't know why he was so mad. I thought if he wanted to mad about balls and strikes last night would have been the night. He was pretty calm until he was thrown out.

[KeefeCato]

Okay so I saw Farmer get hit. Go to 1b. Then I stepped outside for a couple minutes with my dog. What happened with Bell. I come back see Reynolds go to 2b.

[Red Raindog]

Okay so I saw Farmer get hit. Go to 1b. Then I stepped outside for a couple minutes with my dog. What happened with Bell. I come back see Reynolds go to 2b.

Bell got himself tossed before a wild pitch


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[VR]

Yeah, I don't know why he was so mad. I thought if he wanted to mad about balls and strikes last night would have been the night. He was pretty calm until he was thrown out.

Bell’s all time favorite player got hit and hurt. Darn tootin he’s gonna flip out. What happens now? Bring up the rookie in a 110 loss season? What a waste that would be.


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[KeefeCato]

Farmer stands on top of the plate and lunges into the pitch. Same with India

Obviously I don't wanna see Farmer hurt. But it's time for Barrero.
I know he isn't hitting in AAA. But he can pick it at SS.
He has twice the range Farmer has. Farmer has next to no range at SS. He shouldn't be playing SS at the major league level. Not his fault though that's the Reds fault.
Farmer has to be the least athletic of any starting major league SS.
This Reds team as a whole has to be the least athletic team in baseball.

[Coopdaddy67]

Okay so I saw Farmer get hit. Go to 1b. Then I stepped outside for a couple minutes with my dog. What happened with Bell. I come back see Reynolds go to 2b.

He intentionally got himself ejected defending Farmer and to mess with Strider's head.

[Tony Cloninger]

Not Farmers fault Bell plays favorites with him. Farmer is an ok player who would be welcome on the bench of a contender.

I hope Barrero gets all the starts at SS too. He’s just going to take a lot of patience.

[OldFashionedRed]

I'm sure zero will agree with me on this lol, but I don't think the Reds failures this season are all because of lack of talent, aging players. I think Bell is part and parcel with what happened at the beginning of the season, and it wasn't just Phil and it wasn't just injuries. Bell is a bit too easy on the guys, IMO. I see him over there seething, and I told my husband "I don't see how he's able to take it day in and day out". Bell is about to meet his maker :)

[Ky Fried Redleg]

**RETRO 4th of JULY BASEBALL FLASHBASK ***

July 4, 1985. Mets @ Braves. One of the craziest games I ever watched. I was 22 y.o. and we were on vacation for the 4th of July weekend in Fairfield Glade, TN. I was in the condo watching the game on WTBS out of Atlanta. Had three lengthy rain delays and a lot of hitting. Mets manager Davey Johnson and Darryl Strawberry ere both ejected in the 17th for arguing. Keith Hernandez hit for the cycle. The Mets had 28 hits in the game. The Mets took a 11-10 lead in the top of the 18th .

The bottom of the 18th was where the game went from crazy to unfathomable. The first two Braves' batters had been retired and Atlanta had no position players left to send to the plate. They were stuck with having to bat reliever Rick Camp, a lifetime 0.060 hitter. His hitting was often the butt of jokes among Braves' announcers.

The game started at 7:05 pm and it was more the EIGHT hours since the start . But dammit, I was gonna see this one through. Even though it was 3:20 am , I was gonna watch the last pitch. The 45,000 that was in attendance at 7:05 pm had dwindled to well under 4,500. And most of them stayed because they had been promised a 4th of July fireworks display at game's end.

Camp gets down quickly 0-2 to Mets lefty Tom Gorman . John Sterling and Ernie Johnson on the call :

(Note: A couple things to watch for. Watch Gary Carter wave the outfield in when Camp steps in. Also, watch Mets' 3B Ray Knight throw his arms up as the ball leaves Camp's bat. Also, watch Mets' LF Danny Heep put his hands to his head as the ball sails over the fence. Lenny Dykstra looks exasperated as he picks himself up off the ground.)



https://youtu.be/HVpjWNfnHww

[Kc61]

Farmer stands on top of the plate and lunges into the pitch. Same with India

Obviously I don't wanna see Farmer hurt. But it's time for Barrero.
I know he isn't hitting in AAA. But he can pick it at SS.
He has twice the range Farmer has. Farmer has next to no range at SS. He shouldn't be playing SS at the major league level. Not his fault though that's the Reds fault.
Farmer has to be the least athletic of any starting major league SS.
This Reds team as a whole has to be the least athletic team in baseball.

Maybe Farmer would be better off at third base. But he’s hitting .280 against big league pitching and Barrero is hitting .207 against AAA pitching. With 40% strikeouts.

You can’t just breeze past that. Maybe Jose’s injury still needs time.

[KeefeCato]

**RETRO 4th of JULY BASEBALL FLASHBASK ***

July 4, 1985. Mets @ Braves. One of the craziest games I ever watched. I was 22 y.o. and we were on vacation for the 4th of July weekend in Fairfield Glade, TN. I was in the condo watching the game on WTBS out of Atlanta. Had three lengthy rain delays and a lot of hitting. Mets manager Davey Johnson and Darryl Strawberry ere both ejected in the 17th for arguing. Keith Hernandez hit for the cycle. The Mets had 28 hits in the game. The Mets took a 11-10 lead in the top of the 18th .

The bottom of the 18th was where the game went from crazy to unfathomable. The first two Braves' batters had been retired and Atlanta had no position players left to send to the plate. They were stuck with having to bat reliever Rick Camp, a lifetime 0.060 hitter. His hitting was often the butt of jokes among Braves' announcers.

The game started at 7:05 pm and it was more the EIGHT hours since the start . But dammit, I was gonna see this one through. Even though it was 3:20 am , I was gonna watch the last pitch. The 45,000 that was in attendance at 7:05 pm had dwindled to well under 4,500. And most of them stayed because they had been promised a 4th of July fireworks display at game's end.

Camp gets down quickly 0-2 to Mets lefty Tom Gorman . John Sterling and Ernie Johnson on the call :

(Note: A couple things to watch for. Watch Gary Carter wave the outfield in when Camp steps in. Also, watch Mets' 3B Ray Knight throw his arms up as the ball leaves Camp's bat. Also, watch Mets' LF Danny Heep put his hands to his head as the ball sails over the fence. Lenny Dykstra looks exasperated as he picks himself up off the ground.)



https://youtu.be/HVpjWNfnHww

I literally never woke up in the middle of the night. I fell asleep with that game on. Woke up to see Camp's HR.
I wish I could say that now. I never sleep more than 4 hours without waking up.
Camp spent time in prison for stealing money later on. He passed away a few years back RIP.

[cumberlandreds]

Reiver the retriever is in the game.

[KeefeCato]

Maybe Farmer would be better off at third base. But he’s hitting .280 against big league pitching and Barrero is hitting .207 against AAA pitching. With 40% strikeouts.

You can’t just breeze past that. Maybe Jose’s injury still needs time.

Farmer is very useful. I think he is fine as a platoon guy. Or even to fill in at SS short term due to injury.
Farmer, Solano, Pham, and Drury. Most likely all 4 are platoon guys on contending teams.
I would guess at least two from this group will be dealt to a contender.
Or at least IMO they should be.

[cumberlandreds]

I literally never woke up in the middle of the night. I fell asleep with that game on. Woke up to see Camp's HR.
I wish I could say that now. I never sleep more than 4 hours without waking up.
Camp spent time in prison for stealing money later on. He passed away a few years back RIP.

Really? I never knew that about Camp. I started watching that game back then but gave up on it sometime after midnight.

[durl]

Really not sure why they brought in Sanmartin. But I'm also not sure why he's in the majors.

[KeefeCato]

I'm sure zero will agree with me on this lol, but I don't think the Reds failures this season are all because of lack of talent, aging players. I think Bell is part and parcel with what happened at the beginning of the season, and it wasn't just Phil and it wasn't just injuries. Bell is a bit too easy on the guys, IMO. I see him over there seething, and I told my husband "I don't see how he's able to take it day in and day out". Bell is about to meet his maker :)

No manager is going to be hard on players. Those days are gone.

[durl]

No manager is going to be hard on players. Those days are gone.

Baseball was more fun when managers were more strict.

[cumberlandreds]

4-1 Braves in the 7th.

[KeefeCato]

Really? I never knew that about Camp. I started watching that game back then but gave up on it sometime after midnight.

I can't remember the details. But he spent a few years in prison for stealing money from some organization. Seems like others were in on it with him. But I don't think they were ball players. Maybe a friend? Or should I say a bad friend.

[cumberlandreds]

I'm sure zero will agree with me on this lol, but I don't think the Reds failures this season are all because of lack of talent, aging players. I think Bell is part and parcel with what happened at the beginning of the season, and it wasn't just Phil and it wasn't just injuries. Bell is a bit too easy on the guys, IMO. I see him over there seething, and I told my husband "I don't see how he's able to take it day in and day out". Bell is about to meet his maker :)

You are right. No one will. Reds have bad players period. Wouldn't matter who the manager is.

[Kc61]

Farmer is very useful. I think he is fine as a platoon guy. Or even to fill in at SS short term due to injury.
Farmer, Solano, Pham, and Drury. Most likely all 4 are platoon guys on contending teams.
I would guess at least two from this group will be dealt to a contender.
Or at least IMO they should be.

You can trade all these guys. You can view them all as backups.

But that doesn’t change Barrero’s current BA, OPS or K rate against minor league pitching.

Not sure why Jose is the one who’s a big league starter right now.

[KeefeCato]

Baseball was more fun when managers were more strict.

Managers are pretty much just a guy on the bench these days. With the DH in the NL now they have even less to do.

Bell has 8 horrible bullpen choices. I see people are here saying I can't believe Cessa or Kuhnel are on this team. Or pick a name.
Frankly outside of Hoffman none on the active roster belongs on it. Hoffman would probably be on some other teams serving the long man /mop up role. Even he is borderline.

[icehole3]

You are right. No one will. Reds have bad players period. Wouldn't matter who the manager is.

I wish the Reds would take the approach the Rays and Marlins take.

[Ky Fried Redleg]

Really? I never knew that about Camp. I started watching that game back then but gave up on it sometime after midnight.

Used to love watching games on WTBS, along with Georgia Championship Wrestling.

The Rick Camp game ended at 3:55 am. The Mets scored five times in the top of the 19th off Camp but the Braves rallied(of course they did) for two runs in the bottom of the inning and had the tying run at the plate in noneother than...Rick Camp, who struck out against Ron Darling. Now, if Camp had homered a second time to tie it up again, I would have looked for Rod Serling to appear. Btw, the fireworks started at about 4:05 am. Some folks in Atlanta were awakened in their sleep, thinking the city was under attack. It wasn't General Sherman who mounted the offensive in Atlanta that early morning, however. It was Rick Camp. (RIP)

[KeefeCato]

You can trade all these guys. You can view them all as backups.

But that doesn’t change Barrero’s current BA, OPS or K rate.

Nope it doesn't. But now is the time to get him some major league experience. He may never hit in the majors. But they need to find out. I've saw guys from time to time actually get a boost of confidence when being named a starter in the majors and actually preform better than they did in the minors.

[OldFashionedRed]

No manager is going to be hard on players. Those days are gone.

Maybe the popular response is it's not going to change so move on, but takes a minority to make a majority haha.

[cumberlandreds]

Used to love watching games on WTBS, along with Georgia Championship Wrestling.

The Rick Camp game ended at 3:55 am. The Mets scored five times in the top of the 19th off Camp but the Braves rallied(of course they did) for two runs in the bottom of the inning and had the tying run at the plate in noneother than...Rick Camp, who struck out against Ron Darling. Now, if Camp had homered a second time to tie it up again, I would have looked for Rod Serling to appear. Btw, the fireworks started at about 4:05 am. Some folks in Atlanta were awakened in their sleep, thinking the city was under attack. It wasn't General Sherman who mounted the offensive in Atlanta that early morning, however. It was Rick Camp. (RIP)

I watched the Braves and Cubs every day back in the 80s. Kept score most games too. Even if the teams were bad it was great fun to watch every day.

[Ky Fried Redleg]

*** KFR'S SCOREBOARD STUMPER***

A two -parter:

1. There are only two players in Major League history to have hit 20 or more homeruns in a season for BOTH the Cincinnati Reds and Atlanta Braves? Can you name both players?

2. There are are only three players in the Major League history to have ever stolen 20 or more bases in a season for BOTH the Cincinnati Reds and Atlanta Braves. Can you name all three?


1. Ron Gant , Bret Boone

2. Deion Sanders , Reggie Sanders, Ron Gant

[KeefeCato]

Maybe the popular response is it's not going to change so move on, but takes a minority to make a majority haha.

I'm fine if Bell is fired today. It won't change anything though. This is the worst Reds team in history. Talent level vs. The top teams heck vs. The .500 teams even. Is a huge difference. The Cubs and Pirates are terrible. But both teams especially the Pirates have some good looking young lalent on the roster.
I highly doubt most of us ever live to see the Reds win a playoff series much less a world series.
Organization needs completely blown up and restarted from scratch. New owners. New GM . All new minor league coaches. Everyone needs to go.
I'd say it's just as likely the Reds relocate in our lifetime as it is they win a world series.
MLB might step in and block any move for them to relocate. But does MLB powers even care about tradition? Doubtful.

[cumberlandreds]

4-1 last chance for Redlegs. Who will the hero be?

[Ky Fried Redleg]

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4-1 last chance for Redlegs. Who will the hero be?

Hal King?

[Ky Fried Redleg]

500K Salary guy hitting for 16 mil guy. Come on Donnie baseball.

[cumberlandreds]

Almost a Hal King moment.

[durl]

Pitcher walks 2 and hits a third and you swing at the first pitch?

[Ky Fried Redleg]

Wow ! Almora almost channeled Hal.

[Sassy Sal]

One hit! Impressive.

[LeatherPants]

You can trade all these guys. You can view them all as backups.

But that doesn’t change Barrero’s current BA, OPS or K rate against minor league pitching.

Not sure why Jose is the one who’s a big league starter right now.


Because it’s a lost season and Farmer isn’t going to be around for the next good Reds team. Get Jose up here and play him everyday.

[Ky Fried Redleg]

Almost a Hal King moment.

I was looking forward to winning 60 of the next 80.

[cumberlandreds]

Ten straight home losses. Most since 86 Reds lost 11 straight. That 86 team was pretty good. They had 86 wins. Don't think this team will make that number.

[KeefeCato]

I was looking forward to winning 60 of the next 80.

They may win 25 of the next 80. Maybe.

[cumberlandreds]

One hit! Impressive.

I blame Ron. He used up all his hits and runs the last game he went to. :)

[Ky Fried Redleg]

Reds are still averaging 10.5 runs/gm over Ron's last two games attended.

[KeefeCato]

Ten straight home losses. Most since 86 Reds lost 11 straight. That 86 team was pretty good. They had 88 wins. Don't think this team will make that number.

Those 85-88 teams were exciting to watch. Just a couple starting pitchers away from winning a few divisions.
A 82 83 Soto performance would have really helped them.
Houston or who ever happened to be in first during that 4 year period. They could never win head to head against and over take them.
I wish last year's squad would have had a bullpen as good as those teams did.

[durl]

They may win 25 of the next 80. Maybe.

I think they'll be lucky to win 20.

[membengal]

I've had Strider all year for my fantasy team. Picked him up after seeing him in relief against Reds in the first series. He moved into the starting rotation for the Braves about 5 turns through the rotation ago and he's been REALLY good. Just electric stuff. Fastball between 98 and 100 with some movement and a devastating slider. Shows the occasional change. Able to pound the zone at the knees on the black. Good luck, Reds.

102 I meant. 98 and 102.

[Ky Fried Redleg]

Reds need to go 37-48 the rest of the way to avoid 100 losses. Will they do it?

[cumberlandreds]

Reds need to go 37-48 the rest of the way to avoid 100 losses. Will they do it?

I can't see this team as it is now winning 37 games. I know a couple of guys are about ready to come off the IL but I'm not sure that's enough for that many wins.

[OldFashionedRed]

I think they'll be lucky to win 20.

It's going to take some guys, who are the ends of their careers, getting hot. It wasn't that long ago when they were what 13-15 games under .500 and we were all thinking that maybe just maybe they had a comeback in them? Not that long ago we won what, six games in a row?

[durl]

It's going to take some guys, who are the ends of their careers, getting hot. It wasn't that long ago when they were what 13-15 games under .500 and we were all thinking that maybe just maybe they had a comeback in them? Not that long ago we won what, six games in a row?

This is true. I had some hope after they had a winning May but the June record of 9-18, combined with what little talent we have being traded away soon, makes me think this club won't win at a 30% clip.

[Ky Fried Redleg]

I can't see this team as it is now winning 37 games. I know a couple of guys are about ready to come off the IL but I'm not sure that's enough for that many wins.

Plus, will we have Castillo and/or Mahle after the trade deadline? May be an uphill climb to avoid 100 L's.

[Ron Madden]

We had a family get together at my daughters house after we left the ballpark and by the time my wife and I got home I was too tired to check in on the game thread.

It seemed like half the crowd were all Atlanta fans. Spencer Strider dominated the Reds lineup he looked untouchable. At least the score was close until the bullpen showed up.

From where we were sitting, half way down the RF line, when the ball left Almora's bat with 2 out and the bases loaded I thought it had a shot to be a game winning grand slam. Seemed like everyone around us thought so too.

I enjoyed listening to three guys sitting in front of us discuss the game, I guess they were in their early 20's and I think it must have been one guys first Reds game in person by some of the things he said and questions he asked the other two. One thing he said was it doesn't look like Mahle throws the ball this hard watching him pitch on tv, then when he saw Striker he kept saying WOW! lol

They were having a good time even though the Reds couldn't hardly buy a hit.

Wish Almora's fly ball would've left the yard, haven't been to a Reds walk off in what seems like forever.

[mth123]

Nope it doesn't. But now is the time to get him some major league experience. He may never hit in the majors. But they need to find out. I've saw guys from time to time actually get a boost of confidence when being named a starter in the majors and actually preform better than they did in the minors.

Now is not the time. Handing guys jobs just because is a whole lot of the problem in the organization. How many times do we need to see it fail?

I'd play Reynolds at SS and call up a Stuart Fairchild if Farmer hits the IL.