8-5-22 Reds @ Brewers 8:30

[Ron Madden]

Reds
1. Jonathan India (R) 2B
2. Nick Senzel (R) CF
3. Kyle Farmer (R) 3B
4. Joey Votto (L) 1B
5. Donovan Solano (R) DH
6. Aristides Aquino (R) RF
7. Albert Almora Jr. (R) LF
8. Jose Barrero (R) SS
9. Michael Papierski (S) C
SP Robert Dugger (R)

Brewers
1. Christian Yelich (L) LF
2. Willy Adames (R) SS
3. Rowdy Tellez (L) 1B
4. Andrew McCutchen (R) DH
5. Kolten Wong (L) 2B
6. Hunter Renfroe (R) RF
7. Luis Urias (R) 3B
8. Victor Caratini (S) C
9. Tyrone Taylor (R) CF
SP Eric Lauer (L)

[KeefeCato]

Hopefully Dugger can put together some decent starts. He is going to be given the ball 11 times I would guess. Unless he absolutely bombs or gets injured.

[RedTeamGo!]

Hopefully Dugger can put together some decent starts. He is going to be given the ball 11 times I would guess. Unless he absolutely bombs or gets injured.

I think Duggar is going to get 1 start. This one. Dunn will get his next start.

[wlf WV]

Farmer at 3rd.:thumbup::thumbup:

[mhs95_06]

Disappointed to see its only on apple TV!

[Ron Madden]

Game time has been changed to 8:30

I won't be able to participate in the game thread tonight going to the neighbors again, where we'll drink plenty of beer and listen to the radio broadcast with Tommy Thrall. Hope everybody enjoys the game

[SomeCallMeTim]

Farmer at 3rd.:thumbup::thumbup:

And batting 3rd. [emoji107][emoji107][emoji107]

Oh well, someone has to.

[KeefeCato]

I think Duggar is going to get 1 start. This one. Dunn will get his next start.

Yeah that's right. Still imagine Dugger will get more. I doubt Greene starts very many more times.

[Reds Fanatic]

Yeah that's right. Still imagine Dugger will get more. I doubt Greene starts very many more times.

Greene just went on the DL with right shoulder strain. I am not sure how much more they can expect out of Greene this year

[757690]

Watching the pre-game on Apple TV. Feels like a Milwaukee Brewers home broadcast.

[westofyou]

Greene just went on the DL with right shoulder strain. I am not sure how much more they can expect out of Greene this year

Some fans already threw dirt in his career casket, but yeah he could be out or he could be back for all September

[JFLegal]

how tf is there a delay at an indoor stadium?

[westofyou]

how tf is there a delay at an indoor stadium?

40th anniversary of Brew Crew

[westofyou]

I listen to a lot of different radio feeds and I’m certain that the Reds have more ads for meat than all the other guys. Marty also is a meat pitchman extraordinaire

[JFLegal]

I listen to a lot of different radio feeds and I’m certain that the Reds have more ads for meat than all the other guys. Marty also is a meat pitchman extraordinaire

we do like our meats in this part of the country

[Jaysland Red]

Some fans already threw dirt in his career casket, but yeah he could be out or he could be back for all September

He’ll be back in time for the play-off push

[westofyou]

we do like our meats in this part of the country

It’s true, I ate the craziest meat products in Cincinnati in my youth all the time

[Reds Fanatic]

Senzel reaches on a hit I assume that went right through Urias

[Reds Fanatic]

Votto singles to center. 1st and 2nd

[Reds Freak]

Brantley all over Senzel for not going first to third on the Votto single.

"The Reds have got to figure out a way to get Nick Senzel to play harder, and I'm not sure how you do that."

Ouch.

[Reds Fanatic]

Good AB. Solano walks. Bases loaded

[Reds Fanatic]

Aquino strikes out looking

[Tony Cloninger]

Making Senzel play harder has worked out great. For his doctor.

Solano is a throwback type hitter to before all most hitters cared about were exit velocity.

Well at least Aquino didn’t swing at everything. That was a close pitch.

[malcontent]

Not smart. At all. Bases loaded, two outs, 1-2 count.

[westofyou]

Brantley all over Senzel for not going first to third on the Votto single.

"The Reds have got to figure out a way to get Nick Senzel to play harder, and I'm not sure how you do that."

Ouch.

Brantley is chugging Cokes and getting a little angrier every day since he was on the field

[Dawink]

Aquino is so frustrating to watch. Absolutely no confidence in himself at the plate. That was 94 right down the middle. Never moved the bat. That tells you he is guessing, imo and he ain’t good enough at that!


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[757690]

Even though they clearly are favoring the Brewers, I like this announcing crew so far. PBP is straightforward, no nonsense, and the color guy knows his stuff, player’s strengths and weaknesses and the most advanced metrics.

[Reds Fanatic]

Leadoff walk to Yelich

[Dawink]

I think Senzel should focus on playing smarter. He has made
Some of the dumbest baserunning mistakes by being too aggressive. Getting picked off first, he just doesn’t play very smart.


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[westofyou]

I think Senzel should focus on playing smarter. He has made
Some of the dumbest baserunning mistakes by being too aggressive. Getting picked off first, he just doesn’t play very smart.


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Exactly, he’s been a base out a bunch, yet he should have gone first to third on that single up the middle.

I prefer less outs on the bases, it’s the first inning no reason to throw an out in their lap

[Reds Fanatic]

Dugger strikes out Adames

[Tony Cloninger]

Is that the Catcher from the Bad News Bears hitting?

[Dawink]

Is that the Catcher from the Bad News Bears hitting?

Lol. Think he was a right handed hitter


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[Dawink]

Dear God Tellez


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[Reds Fanatic]

Telez crushed that pitch

[Sassy Sal]

Exactly, he’s been a base out a bunch, yet he should have gone first to third on that single up the middle.

I prefer less outs on the bases, it’s the first inning no reason to throw an out in their lap

He was not sure of Lauer's move. He was leaning back toward the bag several times. I'm guessing that had something to do with it, anyway.

[Reds Fanatic]

Leadoff walk to Almora

[Reds Fanatic]

Barrero lines out to center

[Reds Fanatic]

Papierski lines out to center

[westofyou]

Leadoff walk to Almora

Brantley loves Almora, L O V E S him.

He’s his hype man

[durl]

I just started watching. How has the AppleTV broadcast rated on the Cringe-Meter so far?

[klw]

Mahle is through 4 scoreless and Twins are up 5-0 and batting in the bottom of the 4th. 4 in 1 hit 1bb 4 k 52 pitches.

[Reds Fanatic]

Leadoff hit for Renfroe

[Sassy Sal]

I just started watching. How has the AppleTV broadcast rated on the Cringe-Meter so far?

I turned on the radio broadcast even thought it is lagging behind if that tells you anything.

[Reds Fanatic]

I just started watching. How has the AppleTV broadcast rated on the Cringe-Meter so far?

So far I will say this crew is much better then the other Apple TV crew we had earlier this year

[Reds Fanatic]

Urias walks

[Tony Cloninger]

I just started watching. How has the AppleTV broadcast rated on the Cringe-Meter so far?

Analysts is good. Great insights.

Play by Play is typical can’t stop talking. Can’t stop with cliches or let me find a meme moment. Basically everything that makes you miss Vin Scully and Duck Enberg type announcers more. Not terrible or cringe. Just not told less is more.

[Kc61]

Brantley all over Senzel for not going first to third on the Votto single.

"The Reds have got to figure out a way to get Nick Senzel to play harder, and I'm not sure how you do that."

Ouch.

Senzel plays hard, runs hard. If anything, he’s had to tone it down to avoid injury.

[Reds Fanatic]

Catarina flies out to center. 1st and 3rd

[OldFashionedRed]

Why was this guy put on the mound tonight? Hunter Green injury?

[Assembly Hall]

Game over

[Reds Fanatic]

Ouch this game is over early

[OldFashionedRed]

Senzel plays hard, runs hard. If anything, he’s had to tone it down to avoid injury.

The problem is he's reckless, and at the wrong times. Was Brantley wrong?

[Kc61]

Why was this guy put on the mound tonight? Hunter Green injury?

Reds only have four regular starters right now. Tonight was the fifth guy’s turn. So they used Dugger.

[Red Raindog]

If you’re going to throw a game I guess giving one to Milwaukee is the best place


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[Sassy Sal]

Game over

He still stinks.

[OldFashionedRed]

Get that guy out of there, I know someone mentioned Aquino the other night. Put him on the mound :)

[Tony Cloninger]

Simone needed to pitch for Mahle and Tom Carroll and Mo Sanford were not available.

I am loooovvving the Socks and stirrups though.

[Reds Fanatic]

Why was this guy put on the mound tonight? Hunter Green injury?

This was Mahle’s spot so they needed a starter with the trades now they need another by Sunday

[JFLegal]

the reds' starting pitcher is The Rum Tum Tugger from the terrible musical/movie Cats? seems about right.

[Tony Cloninger]

We are actually winning because the Cardinals will not gain a game tonight.

[Kc61]

The problem is he's reckless, and at the wrong times. Was Brantley wrong?

That Senzel doesn’t play hard? I disagree with that.

As for being reckless, maybe in the past, but he’s not been reckless this year. Which is probably why he’s still on the field rather than injured.

[texasdave]

Hope you enjoyed your stay, Robert.

[757690]

the reds' starting pitcher is The Rum Tum Tugger from the terrible musical/movie Cats? seems about right.

That’s a funny joke, but it also reveals that you saw Cats, which is more embarrassing than the joke is funny.

[OldFashionedRed]

This was Mahle’s spot so they needed a starter with the trades now they need another by Sunday

Okay, thanks. I miss Mahle.

[OldFashionedRed]

That Senzel doesn’t play hard? I disagree with that.

As for being reckless, maybe in the past, but he’s not been reckless this year. Which is probably why he’s still on the field rather than injured.

Oh yes he has been reckless, it's not an all-out-physical kind of thing. I vividly remember him getting thrown out at first in a crucial situation not that long ago to end a game. Because he was being reckless on the bases. Being reckless isn't the same thing as being focused and in the moment.

[JFLegal]

That’s a funny joke, but it also reveals that you saw Cats, which is more embarrassing than the joke is funny.

as a kid, my mom made me go see the musical. the only thing i liked about it was the rum tum tugger song. lol.

never saw the movie. i swear on my reds' fandom. ok, i swear on my bengals' fandom.

[Reds Fanatic]

Votto walks

[Kc61]

I hope the Reds offer Votto an escape route from this team.

[JFLegal]

the rum tum tugger is a ... terrible pitcher.

[Redsfan6272]

So why didn't the Reds claim Dinselon Lamet?? Could have seen if he was worth it over Dugger!!

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I hope the Reds offer Votto an escape route from this team.

Why didn't they before August 2nd??,

[JFLegal]

I hope the Reds offer Votto an escape route from this team.

votto seems very comfortable playing for a losing franchise with no pressure on him. no sarcasm. he seems happy.

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So why didn't the Reds claim Dinselon Lamet?? Could have seen if he was worth it over Dugger!!

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Why didn't they before August 2nd??,

lamet was not a character in Cats, so he was not considered by the reds.

[Tony Cloninger]

The Reds are going to war with what they have. Like the 1967 coalition of Arab countries. It will be risky.

[klw]

Votto walks for the 1335th time in his career, tieing him with Todd Helton for 37th alltime. He has now reached base 3497 times in his career, good for `104th place.

[Assembly Hall]

the rum tum tugger is a ... terrible pitcher.

Take that mugger fugger out.

[Kc61]

Oh yes he has been reckless, it's not an all-out-physical kind of thing. I vividly remember him getting thrown out at first in a crucial situation not that long ago to end a game. Because he was being reckless on the bases. Being reckless isn't the same thing as being focused and in the moment.

Senzel’s fast and aggressive. I’m sure Bell encourages him to be aggressive. He’s one of the few guys on the team with any speed.

All players make mistakes, it doesn’t make them reckless.

I guess some prefer a beer league style. One base at a time. No speed, no risks.

[Reds Fanatic]

Tellez with a leadoff walk

[JFLegal]

Take that mugger fugger out.

lmao

[texasdave]

The Reds may soon lament not claiming Lamet.

Dinelson, wax on, wax off.

[Kc61]

The Reds may soon lament not claiming Lamet.

Lament is a great word for the Reds.

[klw]

Oh well, Votto not due up again for awhile, game out of hand, no reason to stay up, night all.

[JFLegal]

the rum tum tugger is a ... microcosm of the reds

[Reds Fanatic]

Wow when you pay no attention and Tellez steals easily

[Reds Fanatic]

Dugger with a K to end the inning

[Sassy Sal]

I guess we all knew games like this were coming, *sigh*.

[Tony Cloninger]

Ernie Lombardi just stole 2nd. Dugger Digging Deeper.

[BCubb2003]

Out of town scores: Inside the park home run for Elly de la Cruz.

[Reds Fanatic]

That was an ugly looking swing from Barrero

[texasdave]

If they would have pulled RTT after two innings, he could have come back on Sunday and taken Hunter's turn in the rotation.

[JFLegal]

If they would have pulled RTT after two innings, he could have come back on Sunday and taken Hunter's turn in the rotation.

the Rum Tum Tugger needs stretched out. not just because he's a starting pitcher; because he's a cat.

[Reds Fanatic]

Urias leadoff double

[Old school 1983]

Can we never see Duggar again?

[Reds Fanatic]

Another walk

[Reds Fanatic]

What a catch by Almora

[JFLegal]

Can we never see Duggar again?

he's a terrible bore

[Tony Cloninger]

Almora is the greatest living LF alive right now.

[Reds Fanatic]

Dugger gets out of that

[OldFashionedRed]

Normally I can catch games on PIA, but can't get the game tonight?

[cumberlandreds]

Oh well, Votto not due up again for awhile, game out of hand, no reason to stay up, night all.

I am glad this mess was on Apple TV so I wouldn't feel compelled to watch it.

[Ky Fried Redleg]

we do like our meats in this part of the country


There was an old guy by the name of Cas Walker who owned a chain of grocery stores in SE KY and Tennessee back in the sixties and seventies. He was a vulger and sometimes mean old curmudgeon but a helluva entrepeneur. One of his more famous slogans for his grocery stores was "You might be our prices but you can't beat out meat."

[Reds Fanatic]

India singles to left

[Reds Fanatic]

Senzel singles to right. 1st and 2nd

[Reds Fanatic]

Normally I can catch games on PIA, but can't get the game tonight?

Only on Apple TV tonight

[Reds Fanatic]

Farmer lines a hit to left. 5-1 Brewers

[Tony Cloninger]

Why isn’t Senzel on 3rd. Why is this man not hustling all out? Modern ball players.

[Reds Fanatic]

Votto grounds into a 6-3 DP

[Tony Cloninger]

That’s a basehit 10 years ago when players played actual correct positions.

[OldFashionedRed]

That’s a basehit 10 years ago when players played actual correct positions.

Agreed. I honestly feel that when the shift is finally banned we'll see batting averages back up closer to what we grew up with.

[Reds Fanatic]

Hopefully India is ok after that play

[Tony Cloninger]

Agreed. I honestly feel that when the shift is finally banned we'll see batting averages back up closer to what we grew up with.

Even though I exaggerate a little on that comment…. Where the SS is playing may not be banned. I think the plan is to ban the SS playing over the bag or on the other side and the 2nd base bag. Same with the 2B as well. Or not allowed to play past the dirt area into the OF. The extreme shifts. Isn’t that what they will ban?

[Tony Cloninger]

Come on Angel. Your due one bad call tonight.

Oh yeah Braun made a name for himself all right. You know what I mean. Yea you know.

[Kc61]

Agreed. I honestly feel that when the shift is finally banned we'll see batting averages back up closer to what we grew up with.

If they ban the shift, the LHH line drive or hard grounder to the pull side hole will be reinstated as a base hit.

That alone would be worth banning the shift.

[OldFashionedRed]

Even though I exaggerate a little on that comment…. Where the SS is playing may not be banned. I think the plan is to ban the SS playing over the bag or on the other side and the 2nd base bag. Same with the 2B as well. Or not allowed to play past the dirt area into the OF. The extreme shifts. Isn’t that what they will ban?

I'm just asking that the game look and act like the one I grew up with. The other day I was thinking about Jay Bruce and Adam Dunn. Specifically the shots Dunn would hit to right. Other than the mammoth shots Aquino hit a couple of years ago on that tear, do we have anyone on this club with real power? Why don't we bunt anymore? We have no speed. It all just gets me irritated.

[Reds Fanatic]

Almora singles to left

[Kc61]

I'm just asking that the game look and act like the one I grew up with. The other day I was thinking about Jay Bruce and Adam Dunn. Specifically the shots Dunn would hit to right. Other than the mammoth shots Aquino hit a couple of years ago on that tear, do we have anyone on this club with real power? Why don't we bunt anymore? We have no speed. It all just gets me irritated.

My main gripe with the shift is it’s unfair to left handed hitters. When they pull the ball it’s a short throw to first for the out. Loading up all those players on the right side of the infield just seems very unfair. The impact on RHH is less concerning IMO.

[Tony Cloninger]

I'm just asking that the game look and act like the one I grew up with. The other day I was thinking about Jay Bruce and Adam Dunn. Specifically the shots Dunn would hit to right. Other than the mammoth shots Aquino hit a couple of years ago on that tear, do we have anyone on this club with real power? Why don't we bunt anymore? We have no speed. It all just gets me irritated.

You stop talking nonsense about bunting now. That will only get you in trouble here. Talk more walks. Launch angles.

[Tony Cloninger]

If the extreme shifts were around in 1962 besides the ones for Williams does Richardson still make a play on McCovey?

[Ky Fried Redleg]

Game time has been changed to 8:30

I won't be able to participate in the game thread tonight going to the neighbors again, where we'll drink plenty of beer and listen to the radio broadcast with Tommy Thrall. Hope everybody enjoys the game




While this game is certainly a riveting affair, I'm still trying to wrap my mind around what a really drunk Ron Madden would be like.

[Tony Cloninger]

So everyone went to drink at their neighbors house?

Please phone Stop typing in words that you think I am trying to say. Good grief.

[Reds Fanatic]

Fraley leads off the 9th with a walk

[Reds Fanatic]

Moose walks. 1st and 2nd

[malcontent]

Moustakas actually took ball 4.

Some hope with India and Drur....oh, forget it.

[Reds Fanatic]

Passed ball moved the runner to 3rd and now both managers are arguing the count

[Reds Fanatic]

Reds lose 5-1

[Tom Servo]

Reds lose 5-1
ok :castellini:

[VR]

Will be a tough finish to the year most likely, but…wow, following the Reds minor leaguers this week has been electric.


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[Ron Madden]

While this game is certainly a riveting affair, I'm still trying to wrap my mind around what a really drunk Ron Madden would be like.


Anyone that has ever frequently read these game threads has already witnessed a drunk Ron Madden.

It's the only way I can put up with some people. ;)

[Ron Madden]

Listened to the game with some neighbors.
we watched the Dodger tribute to Vin Scully then turned the sound off on the TV and we watched that game while listening to the Reds game.

I came home not long after the Reds game ended.
Even though the Reds lost we had a good time.
Baseball, Good friends and Cold Beer.. Can't beat it!

[Mutaman]

Anyone that has ever frequently read these game threads has already witnessed a drunk Ron Madden.

It's the only way I can put up with some people. ;)

Got drunk the other night and i still despised Bob Castellini. It never worked with the Banana Man either.

[mhs95_06]

Senzel plays hard, runs hard. If anything, he’s had to tone it down to avoid injury.

I think playing smarter is Senzel's neediest area for improvement.

[mhs95_06]

My main gripe with the shift is it’s unfair to left handed hitters. When they pull the ball it’s a short throw to first for the out. Loading up all those players on the right side of the infield just seems very unfair. The impact on RHH is less concerning IMO.

That's a fair penalty for lefties to suffer since they get to hit against right hand pitchers so often. Do not change the player position rules, please.

[SomeCallMeTim]

While this game is certainly a riveting affair, I'm still trying to wrap my mind around what a really drunk Ron Madden would be like.

I always envisioned Harry Carey in the bleachers as a close proximity.

A one, a two, a three….

[KeefeCato]

KC61 nailed it. The shift kills LHB. It has definitely cost Votto. Will keep him from finishing his career above .300 average.