8-7-22 Reds @ Brewers 2:10

[Ron Madden]

Reds
1. Jake Fraley (L) LF
2. Donovan Solano (R) 2B
3. Mike Moustakas (L) 1B
4. Joey Votto (L) DH
5. Kyle Farmer (R) 3B
6. Nick Senzel (R) CF
7. Albert Almora Jr. (R) RF
8. Jose Barrero (R) SS
9. Michael Papierski (S) C
SP Graham Ashcraft (R)

Brewers
1. Christian Yelich (L) LF
2. Willy Adames (R) SS
3. Rowdy Tellez (L) 1B
4. Hunter Renfroe (R) RF
5. Kolten Wong (L) 2B
6. Keston Hiura (R) DH
7. Luis Urias (R) 3B
8. Victor Caratini (S) C
9. Tyrone Taylor (R) CF
SP Corbin Burnes (R)

[Ky Fried Redleg]

Sure would like to win this series. But when Moose is your third batter and " Lil Butter Fingers " is behind the plate, it's not gonna be easy. Go Redlegs!!!

[0-2 Count]

David Bell would give Cal Ripken and Lou Gehrig days off.

[757690]

Haven’t seen a Sunday Special is awhile. Kinda makes sense against Burnes.

[cumberlandreds]

Basically throwing the towel for this one.

[LeatherPants]

Basically throwing the towel for this one.

They threw in the towel before the season started. Not sure what makes this game special?

[Ky Fried Redleg]

They threw in the towel before the season started. Not sure what makes this game special?

Ownership, absolutely ; the players, however, have continued to play til the end of games. They haven't given up.

[KeefeCato]

Might be very low scoring game if both pitchers are on. Which means it will be 8-7 game. Because Baseball.

[cumberlandreds]

They threw in the towel before the season started. Not sure what makes this game special?

Exactly. Also for the next several years.

[icehole3]

Dunn tomorrow

[Ky Fried Redleg]

Moose showing off his sloth-like speed.

[icehole3]

nice

[Sassy Sal]

I know it's an out, but Yelich is absolutely raking right now.

[Ky Fried Redleg]

Votto has the speed of a banana slug.

[icehole3]

Senzel hurt

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97 right on the elbow

[klw]

What happened with Votto's AB? Gameday says 99 mph ground out 3b to 2b to 1b. Was there a deflection?

[Ky Fried Redleg]

Senzel hurt

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97 right on the elbow



I got a pain just watching that. OUCH!!!

[LeatherPants]

Votto has the speed of a banana slug.

To be fair, he's Canadian, so he should be measured using the metric system.

[Sassy Sal]

What happened with Votto's AB? Gameday says 99 mph ground out 3b to 2b to 1b. Was there a deflection?

It looked like there was.

[icehole3]

Awful swings Barrero

[757690]

Burnes pitched Barraro exactly how Welsh said he should, nothing but sliders down and away, and he K’d on three pitches.

[LeatherPants]

Awful swings Barrero

He's not going to homer twice every game, probably just once on most days.

[TheBigLebowski]

Gonna be tough for me to be bullish on Ashcraft until such time as he learns how to miss bats. With his pitch arsenal, he should easily have more than 49 k’s jn 76 IP.

[KeefeCato]

I've never saw someone throw as hard as Ashcraft give up so much contact and strike out so few.

[Marc D]

Burnes pitched Barraro exactly how Welsh said he should, nothing but sliders down and away, and he K’d on three pitches.

After showing what he can do with a couple of fastballs yesterday, he had to go into this game knowing the slider diet was only going become more acute (or at least he should have).

I can give the guy a break for the execution, it was Corbin Burns after all, but the approach is hard to get past.

[Sassy Sal]

After showing what he can do with a couple of fastballs yesterday, he had to go into this game knowing the slider diet was only going become more acute (or at least he should have).

I can give the guy a break for the execution, it was Corbin Burns after all, but the approach is hard to get past.

I believe I would pitch him exactly the same way everyone pitches Aquino until he proves he can hit pitches other than fastballs and hangers.

[icehole3]

I believe I would pitch him exactly the same way everyone pitches Aquino until he proves he can hit pitches other than fastballs and hangers.

I think with Aquino's defense I can live with him 1 more year as long as he isn't starting every day.

[mbgrayson]

Reds being no hit after three innings, but Burnes at 63 pitches already.

[Sassy Sal]

I think with Aquino's defense I can live with him 1 more year as long as he isn't starting every day.

He's got a cannon for sure.

[Marc D]

I believe I would pitch him exactly the same way everyone pitches Aquino until he proves he can hit pitches other than fastballs and hangers.


Which begs the question, in my mind, of where is the coaching? I'd tell a guy like him that I don't care if he K's 4 times today looking. I don't care if you are late on fastballs because of it but we are going to work on situational awareness and pitch recognition.

"Trust me, this first pitch will be a slider....don't swing at it. If they get you on a fastball it's my fault, not yours"..type of thing.

[0-2 Count]

Bas baserunning. He was in scoring position

[Sassy Sal]

Which begs the question, in my mind, of where is the coaching? I'd tell a guy like him that I don't care if he K's 4 times today looking. I don't care if you are late on fastballs because of it but we are going to work on situational awareness and pitch recognition.

"Trust me, this first pitch will be a slider....don't swing at it. If they get you on a fastball it's my fault, not yours"..type of thing.

I agree, they should be doing that.

[frostj14]

If the Reds are truly in a rebuilding mode and looking to develop their so-called "pipeline" of talent, then why don't they just let Moustakas go. Injuries and old age have robbed him of his talent. The Reds have many others who should be getting Moose's playing time.

[Sassy Sal]

If the Reds are truly in a rebuilding mode and looking to develop their so-called "pipeline" of talent, then why don't they just let Moustakas go. Injuries and old age have robbed him of his talent. The Reds have many others who should be getting Moose's playing time.

They are on the hook for way too much money.

[Coopdaddy67]

If the Reds are truly in a rebuilding mode and looking to develop their so-called "pipeline" of talent, then why don't they just let Moustakas go. Injuries and old age have robbed him of his talent. The Reds have many others who should be getting Moose's playing time.

I actually wouldn't be surprised if they do that heading into next season, but they need bodies at the MLB level for the rest of this year.

[Sassy Sal]

I actually wouldn't be surprised if they do that heading into next season, but they need bodies at the MLB level for the rest of this year.

Unless I'm misreading things, they are paying him 18 mil next season.

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Who is this Papierski guy?!

[icehole3]

https://c.tenor.com/DzuMpRph8MEAAAAC/denzel-washington-boom.gif

[BCubb2003]

Lil Papi is clutch.

[Coopdaddy67]

Unless I'm misreading things, they are paying him 18 mil next season.

Yes. They owe him $18 mil next year and a $4 million buyout in 2024.

It comes down to whether they'd rather have the open roster spot or not.

[Ky Fried Redleg]

Bas baserunning. He was in scoring position

I wish there was an analytic for baseball IQ. Senzy's BBIQ would probably be in the negative.

[Kc61]

Unless I'm misreading things, they are paying him 18 mil next season.

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!

Reds also have a $4 million option buyout to pay Moose for 2024.

It’s a lot of money. My guess is they keep using Moose and hoping he has a better hitting month at some point. Then try and get some measure of salary relief in a trade. It’s a longshot, but no benefit to cutting him except a roster spot.

[Ky Fried Redleg]

Lil Papi is clutch.

Blind squirrel Papi finds his nut.

[Sassy Sal]

Yes. They owe him $18 mil next year and a $4 million buyout in 2024.

It comes down to whether they'd rather have the open roster spot or not.

I just don't see these penny pinching owners giving that much up.

[Kc61]

I just don't see these penny pinching owners giving that much up.

They have to pay him in any event, whether he stays or goes.

[Dawink]

I just don't see these penny pinching owners giving that much up.

Agree 100
Percent.


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[frostj14]

I would prefer they eat that contract and let some of the prospects get some MLB experience because Moose is not going to figure in the Reds future. After all, they are already playing Votto every day and he is nearing the end of the trail as a productive hitter.

[Tadasimha]

Both pitchers with Mahlesque pitch counts in the sixth

[JCM11]

Nice start from Ashcraft and smart move to get him out of there after 100 pitches.

[Roy Tucker]

Buck Farmer coming in.

Roy says something that sounds like Buck.

[Ky Fried Redleg]

WTB (What the Buck!)

[Roy Tucker]

I knew Buck had it all the way ;) ;) ;)

[mhs95_06]

I would prefer they eat that contract and let some of the prospects get some MLB experience because Moose is not going to figure in the Reds future. After all, they are already playing Votto every day and he is nearing the end of the trail as a productive hitter.

I agree. They gave up the money before Covid, it's now just a matter of making the payments that you agree to and was a bust. Utilize the roster spot for someone who may be able to bloom to aid the cause in 2023 and beyond.

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Starters and their teams battle to a draw thru 6.

[BUTLER REDSFAN]

The dancing pubic hair commercials???

[Big Klu]

Buck Farmer coming in.

Roy says something that sounds like Buck.

I'm a-pickin'!

And I'm a-grinnin'!

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQISrfJV47KdU3Gciozf-9D7oL1cVkpS0T0yg&usqp=CAU

[Ky Fried Redleg]

I knew Buck had it all the way ;) ;) ;)

I've never known a Buck that was trustworthy, including Farmer. I didn't know Buck Owens , so I can't really say anything about him.

[mhs95_06]

We'll see how the Reds maligned bullpen matches up with Brewers Haderless bullpen.

[Ky Fried Redleg]

I knew Buck had it all the way ;) ;) ;)

I've never known a Buck that was trustworthy, including Farmer. I didn't know Buck Owens , so I can't really say anything about him.

[BUTLER REDSFAN]

The dancing pubic hair commercials???

70 years ago u couldnt say pregnant on tv

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We know this is going to come down to a solo shot before the game is over please let it be on the reds side

[mhs95_06]

Brewers 7th inning guy 1,2,3 on 12 pitches vs Reds 4,5,6.

[Kc61]

I would prefer they eat that contract and let some of the prospects get some MLB experience because Moose is not going to figure in the Reds future. After all, they are already playing Votto every day and he is nearing the end of the trail as a productive hitter.

The Reds have lots of good prospects but not many are ready for the major leagues.

I’m not sure they lack roster spots for anyone they care to bring up.

At some point they may have a roster crunch and they would have to consider whether Moose should be cut.

[Roy Tucker]

70 years ago u couldnt say pregnant on tv



Husband and wife couldn’t sleep in the same bed then.

https://metv.com/lists/a-brief-history-of-tv-couples-sleeping-in-the-same-bed

[Tadasimha]

Dang, Reiver! Shiny

[mhs95_06]

In the 7th Reds use 2 pitchers for 14 pitches and get 7,8,9 and a formidable #1 hitter for the zero after the first pitch of the inning clunks #7.

[mhs95_06]

The Reds have lots of good prospects but not many are ready for the major leagues.

I’m not sure they lack roster spots for anyone they care to bring up.

At some point they may have a roster crunch and they would have to consider whether Moose should be cut.

I understand that two of the prospects they got from trades have to be on the 40 man before the end of the season or they will be subject to being somewhere else in the rule 5 draft.

[Roy Tucker]

Ump has a generous strike zone today.

India takes second on a WP.

[Kc61]

I understand that two of the prospects they got from trades have to be on the 40 man before the end of the season or they will be subject to being somewhere else in the rule 5 draft.

The forty man roster, yes, during the off-season. But Reds will have many openings on that roster, that won’t force a move with an expensive player like Moustakas.

[mhs95_06]

May want to put some more players on the 60 day IL, like Greene, so they can keep more on the 40 man.

[Roy Tucker]

Reds take a 2-1 lead on a Solano double that RF Hunter Renfroe got all turned around on.

[mhs95_06]

Reds get one against the Haderless bullpen in the 8th, and now have a chance, with a scoreless bottom of the 8th, to get a Brewers 9th inning pitcher from their 'B' list if they are still trailing.

[KeefeCato]

I hope the Reds at least offer a deal to Solano. Unlikely he would stay. But man can he hit.

[kaldaniels]

Just show the damn fans on the field producers.

[LeatherPants]

May want to put some more players on the 60 day IL, like Greene, so they can keep more on the 40 man.

Everyone on the 60 has to come off after the season, so they’ll need those spots.

[KeefeCato]

The Reds on paper with those pitching matchups against the Mets have little chance to win any of the 3. But that's why they play the games I guess.

[mhs95_06]

Everyone on the 60 has to come off after the season, so they’ll need those spots.

Yes, but that'll give them more spots now to get people up and see who they want to discard before next season.

[KeefeCato]

The Reds better not overuse Diaz this season. They desperately need him healthy if they ever do have a contending team.
But as volatile as relievers are he may end up being awful next year.

[Roy Tucker]

Just show the damn fans on the field producers.

Had the same thought. Particularly when Reds announcers were giving PBP of the fan hijinks.

[Ky Fried Redleg]

I hope the Reds at least offer a deal to Solano. Unlikely he would stay. But man can he hit.

Professional hitter...

[Roy Tucker]

Diaz strikes out the side wrapped around a BB.

Treat him well, Reds.

[mhs95_06]

Diaz with a zero in the 8th, so the Reds should get Brewers worst lefty to start the 9th.

[Big Klu]

Just show the damn fans on the field producers.

https://thumbs.gfycat.com/BriefSoggyCornsnake-size_restricted.gif

[WrongVerb]

Video of fan on field:

https://twitter.com/SportsTalkLewis/status/1556387029805670402?t=exS0xXBIudGgGD6vtgYC1A&s=19

[Ky Fried Redleg]

Joey having trouble catching up to 92. Age is a bastard !

[Roy Tucker]

Our old friend Brad Boxberger in for the Brewers.

December 17, 2011: Traded by the Cincinnati Reds with Yonder Alonso, Yasmani Grandal and Edinson Volquez to the San Diego Padres for Mat Latos.

[mhs95_06]

Joey having trouble catching up to 92. Age is a bastard !

I guess Boxberger was up for use today after 2 rest days, so they figured he could take care of Votto, which he did.

[icehole3]

great bunt

[mhs95_06]

Beautiful bunt by Senzel puts the Brewers in a predicament!

[Roy Tucker]

Senzel catches the Brewer with their shorts around their ankles with a bunt.

First and second, one out.

[Tadasimha]

That was ball four

[Roy Tucker]

Ohhhhhh

Another generous strike call.

[mhs95_06]

Barrero all primed up to lay off sliders and gets rung up on a fastball!

[icehole3]

This ump

[Mutaman]

Not a strike on Gameday

[PuffyPig]

Unhittable pitch regardless.


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[757690]

Too close to take. Gotta swing at it in that situation.

[TheBigLebowski]

Gonna do Strickland again, huh?

[icehole3]

Who's pitching the ninth?

[Ky Fried Redleg]

Question: If Ron Madden and I got really drunk at a game and I made the poor choice to run onto the field and some big security brute closelined me and broke my geeky neck, what are my chances of having a successful lawsuit for damage to my body?

[Roy Tucker]

The anointed closer Hunter Strickland coming in to get Reds fans heart palpitations.

[BCubb2003]

Who's pitching the ninth?

On first.

[TheBigLebowski]

Hold me.

[Ky Fried Redleg]

Who's pitching the ninth?

Strychnine, of course!!! Bell still drinking the poison like a snake-handling church deacon.

[Tom Servo]

There’s no way Strickland gets 3 outs here with the lead in tact is there

[mhs95_06]

Reds in a situation that they would have hoped for after 5.5 innings. Can they convert?

[traderumor]

"Nails" Strickland on...bottom of order....stay tuned

[icehole3]

Brewers gonna walkoff

[Mutaman]

Couldn't even get one out

[TheBigLebowski]

What can you even say?

[Roy Tucker]

Well, he hit the snot out of that pitch.

Tied up 2-2

[0-2 Count]

How many times is Bell going to put us through the Strickland experiment?

[cumberlandreds]

That was as predictable as the sun will come up in the morning.

[mhs95_06]

Dumb pitching after 0-2, same pitch for 3 balls in a row!

[kaldaniels]

https://th.bing.com/th/id/R.9df404430f39a1f24c9f9634dc6c1cc8?rik=e2%2b3SdLWm D%2fRuQ&pid=ImgRaw&r=0

[Tom Servo]

to be honest if you saw that going any other way that’s simply on you

[icehole3]

upper deck shot

[OldFashionedRed]

Strickland just looks like he doesn't want to be out there. Send him home. Why is he pitching NOW instead of doing it when Diaz pitched, and have Diaz up there?

[RedsFanInMS]

For the 999th time I've asked this on a game thread, why in the hell do we keep running this washed up bum out there as the closer? And don't give me we have no one else, because any damn body is better than this crap.

[LoudounReds]

For what seems like the thousandth time, I never want to see Strickland in a Reds uniform ever again.

[Ron Madden]

So this is the established solid veteran closer they told me about?

[OldFashionedRed]

For what seems like the thousandth time, I never want to see Strickland in a Reds uniform ever again.

You (and most everyone of us) may get our wish soon. He's awful.

[Sassy Sal]

They have been pressing their luck for a long time with this guy.

[kaldaniels]

I watched the 8th. Diaz is interesting and a part of the future.

I turned it to another game when I saw Strickland coming in. I mean I just don’t care at that point.

[Coopdaddy67]

to be honest if you saw that going any other way that’s simply on you

"I can't find the plate, so I'm just going to aim for the middle and see what happens!"

[cumberlandreds]

This one will be over shortly. So get dinner ready!

[CmdrCody]

Loser Dave and his favorite reliever of the year. I guess his favorite starter Mike Minor is starting in a few days. It’s amazing how he always says “He was doing good, looking good, they just sort of hit home runs on every pitch.”


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[Dawink]

For what seems like the thousandth time, I never want to see Strickland in a Reds uniform ever again.

It’s just sickening, fighting as hard as we did to let this turd come in and blow it. He sucks and needs to be gone TODAY!


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[OldFashionedRed]

I do not like his body language. He looks like he's got a grudge or something, makes no effort to get after it out there. Just moping around. He did this to himself.

[Ky Fried Redleg]

What can you even say?

"Bastard" was the first word out of my mouth.

[LeatherPants]

Really hard to to manage a bullpen when there’s exactly one legitimate major leaguer out there.

[icehole3]

Yep Brewers gonna walk off

https://i.imgur.com/izuBBAg.gif

[Tony Cloninger]

This is the manager that is going to be leading the wave of new players correct?

The guy who looks at Farmer. Sees himself and the chances hustling players with average talent like him don’t get and over play them. It worked out in that case ok.

But this is the manager they are going to trust to make in game decisions. Who will go with a vet who is not very good over an unknown.
Granted Diaz had 2 outs. 2 strikes. Then it took him another 12 pitches to finish the 8th. So that was on him.

But come on if he doesn’t already deserve the chance to close.

[Dawink]

I wish they would cut Minor and Strickland Today! My god any of our youngsters would at least keep us interested.


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[BUTLER REDSFAN]

Is it just me or does every team have at least one Japanese player that kills us

[Mutaman]

Well at least we got this incredible minor-league system. I see where the top hitter for Dayton today was batting 236 and the pitchers gave up nine runs

[TheBigLebowski]

I’ve withheld most of my criticism of Bell’s bullpen management. No more.

[Dawink]

Oh good we get Romine to start at second base in extras!


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[Sassy Sal]

Well at least we got this incredible minor-league system. I see where the top hitter for Dayton today was batting 236 and the pitchers gave up nine runs

Not that it matters all that much, but I think most of the Reds minor league team are in last place.

[OldFashionedRed]

Yep Brewers gonna walk off

https://i.imgur.com/izuBBAg.gif

:laugh::laugh:

[cumberlandreds]

Off to fake baseball. That's all for me. See you in NYC.

[Tony Cloninger]

I’ve withheld most of my criticism of Bell’s bullpen management. No more.

It’s deserved. Even with the players he’s barely able to manage this team. I don’t want him managing them past next year.

[Coopdaddy67]

This is the manager that is going to be leading the wave of new players correct?

The guy who looks at Farmer. Sees himself and the chances hustling players with average talent like him don’t get and over play them. It worked out in that case ok.

But this is the manager they are going to trust to make in game decisions. Who will go with a vet who is not very good over an unknown.
Granted Diaz had 2 outs. 2 strikes. Then it took him another 12 pitches to finish the 8th. So that was on him.

But come on if he doesn’t already deserve the chance to close.

I think Bell wanted Diaz facing the middle of their order, which I considered the right decision.

It's not Bell's fault he's got very little to work with when it comes to the bullpen.

[LeatherPants]

I’ve withheld most of my criticism of Bell’s bullpen management. No more.

What bullpen? There’s one real pitcher out there.

[traderumor]

Barrera AB should have salted this one away, but he takes a borderline pitch instead of trying to put the ball in play.

[Tony Cloninger]

Well at least we got this incredible minor-league system. I see where the top hitter for Dayton today was batting 236 and the pitchers gave up nine runs

Go watch Chattanooga then. Your reaching here.

[Ky Fried Redleg]

Is it just me or does every team have at least one Japanese player that kills us

I'll go along with that. I'm still pissed about Pearl Harbor.

[kaldaniels]

Yakety Sax.

[Roy Tucker]

I'll go along with that. I'm still pissed about Pearl Harbor.

Can’t trust those Germans.

[Dawink]

I’m just amazed Aquino made contact. Looks like a triple all the same lol


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[WildcatFan]

Whew, Strickland gonna get a chance to redeem himself.

[Ky Fried Redleg]

Speed and arm at least makes AA somewhat interesting.

[LeatherPants]

Can’t trust those Germans.

Germans?

[Mutaman]

I like this Ashcraft fellow. Might as well trade him now for a couple of prospects and get it over with.

[traderumor]

Brosseau appears to have a noodle arm.

[VR]

Strickland in line for the W. Sweet.


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[WildcatFan]

Strickland in line for the W. Sweet.


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Wild that stat still exists in 2022.

[BCubb2003]

Germans?

Forget it, he’s on a roll.

[Dawink]

Donnie barrels baby!!


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[VR]

That HR may have been the hardest hit ball I’ve seen all year. Absolutely squared up.


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[mhs95_06]

Solano with a great AB to get the ghost trumping run in!

[Ky Fried Redleg]

Solano is such a good situational hitter. A real pro.

[mhs95_06]

Detwiler for the save?

[kaldaniels]

Just remember the ghost runner giveth and the ghost runner taketh away…

[KeefeCato]

Wild that stat still exists in 2022.

Dumbest stat in baseball. I guess it was useful at one time in the 4 man rotation days where pitchers completed 20 of the 40 starts each year.
But it needs to go away now.

[Ron Madden]

Detwiler for the save?

Two of the first three hitters due up in the bottom of the 10th for the Brewers are LHH. Ya gotta go with Detwiler

[JohnnyBench5]

Hunter Strickland...You are not good!

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[KeefeCato]

Two of the first three hitters due up in the bottom of the 10th for the Brewers are LHH. Ya gotta go with Detwiler

Hopefully he can hold em to 1 or less.

[kaldaniels]

Now I still say there’s an argument to be made that in the bottom half, up by two - just balk in the ghost runner.

Unearned, doesn’t hurt the statline. And it removes any distraction from the basepaths to start the inning.

[Ky Fried Redleg]

Just remember the ghost runner giveth and the ghost runner taketh away…

Ghost runner should only be a thing if you are 10 y.o. and playing whiffle ball in your backyard.

[kaldaniels]

Oh great Gibaut warming “just in case.”

We got this.

[frostj14]

I have zero confidence whenever Bell brings in Strickland to close out a game. He now has four blown saves and an ERA approaching 6 runs per game. Those stats alone prove he is not a closer. If anything, Strickland should be considered a mop up guy who only comes in when a game is out of hand with the Reds either well ahead or far behind. Today's blown save also reinforces my belief like many others on this thread that David Bell cannot manage a bullpen. Diaz should be given the closer's role, period, no discussion.

[JohnnyBench5]

Strickland must have compromising photos of Bell....only reasonable explanation of why he is still on the team...Barrero is here to stay so that is the good news...plus lots of good trades...I think.

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[kaldaniels]

Nothing to be confused about Willy. You simply missed the ball.

[mhs95_06]

Great play by Solano to get to the weak grounder on the first hop to get the first out.

[JohnnyBench5]

I have zero confidence whenever Bell brings in Strickland to close out a game. He now has four blown saves and an ERA approaching 6 runs per game. Those stats alone prove he is not a closer. If anything, Strickland should be considered a mop up guy who only comes in when a game is out of hand with the Reds either well ahead or far behind. Today's blown save also reinforces my belief like many others on this threat that David Bell cannot manage a bullpen. Diaz should be given the closer's role, period, no discussion.Agree 100%.

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[LeatherPants]

Diaz should be given the closer's role, period, no discussion.

Diaz will pitch once a week if he’s the closer, because the rest of the bullpen won’t be able to hold the lead. At least this way he gets some work in. He’s literally the only bullpen pitcher they should bring back next year.

[Ron Madden]

REDS WIN !!!

[icehole3]

Reds win!!!

https://i.imgur.com/s5C8rO5.gif

[OldFashionedRed]

We're good again!

[Dawink]

Holy crap Detwiler!! Well that was easy lol!!


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[TheBigLebowski]

Yay

[kaldaniels]

To trade Hader away in the midst of playoff contention…

Just wow.

[Tom Servo]

we're still good :beerme:

but seriously lmao how did we win this game

[Dawink]

I’m glad we kept Solano. Dude can just flat out hit and this team needs that element so badly. Gosh I hope we at least try to keep him for next year.


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[Dawink]

we're still good :beerme:

but seriously lmao how did we win this game

Lol. I’m sitting here wondering the same thing.


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[kaldaniels]

we're still good :beerme:

but seriously lmao how did we win this game

I don’t know how they are .500 since their rough start. Sure it speaks to them not giving up but this isn’t nor wasn’t a .500 roster. I hope that doesn’t fool any decision makers.

[OldFashionedRed]

Diaz will pitch once a week if he’s the closer, because the rest of the bullpen won’t be able to hold the lead. At least this way he gets some work in. He’s literally the only bullpen pitcher they should bring back next year.

Detwiler's numbers aren't bad. About a HR every 6 IP, ERA under 4.

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I don’t know how they are .500 since their rough start. Sure it speaks to them not giving up but this isn’t nor wasn’t a .500 roster. I hope that doesn’t fool any decision makers.

It would have been a 75-80 win team, weren't they predicted to finish 3rd?

[Ron Madden]

we're still good :beerme:

but seriously lmao how did we win this game

The thing I like best about this season is that the players and coaching staff Never give up.

[traderumor]

Good inning, good win. I don't blame Bell for Strickland, I blame his bosses. Bell has not done a bad job this season all things considered.

[WVRedsFan]

Another series win. On the road today, but I was listening on radio. Saw Strickland (again) give up runs and I had to ask why he was the closer4. Force of habit? Diaz should be the closer, but the REDS WIN anyway. Couldn't watch it but team audio on the MLB app went through my car's speakers very well. Yay, technology.

[Tom Servo]

I don’t know how they are .500 since their rough start. Sure it speaks to them not giving up but this isn’t nor wasn’t a .500 roster. I hope that doesn’t fool any decision makers.
I was wondering with that Strickland inning if still using him isn't some sort of 3D Chess move from management. Like you get the team to play hard for 8 innings with situational relievers and all but then just throw this putz who won't be around next year to lose the game so you can go "ah darn, well too bad but I guess that helps with our tanking."

But then the Reds won anyway so maybe they are doing a Major League thing themselves.

[LeatherPants]

Detwiler's numbers aren't bad. About a HR every 6 IP, ERA under 4.



He’s also 36 years old and has been pretty bad the last 7 years.

[Dawink]

Reiver has proven to be very good out of the pen. Kuhnel has been ok, as has Gibeault. As said before Detwiler hasn’t been awful and as a
Pen with the lone exception of Strickland they have been much better the second half. And more importantly they look like they care, again with the exception of Strickland. I can deal with that a lot easier than “here is the fastball let’s see what happens or I can hang you a slider if you like”.


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[Tony Cloninger]

Great. Helping the Cardinals win the division.

[SomeCallMeTim]

To trade Hader away in the midst of playoff contention…

Just wow.

My money is on the Cards to win the Central. Even with Hader this team just isn’t as good as past Brewer teams.

[frostj14]

That is puzzling. I believe Hader is the most feared closer going right now.

[JohnnyBench5]

Good inning, good win. I don't blame Bell for Strickland, I blame his bosses. Bell has not done a bad job this season all things considered.Bell is Turrible...we win in spite of him...has No idea how to manage a Bull pen.

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[Roy Tucker]

we're still good :beerme:

but seriously lmao how did we win this game

I’d rather be lucky than good.

[frostj14]

It's really a mystery on what has happened to Christian Yelich. The only major stat he is leading Joey Votto in is batting average and that is not a lot to brag about. Seems like when the big pay check comes for some of these guys, we find out those great seasons were a flash in the pan. Cody Bellinger is another example.

[LoudounReds]

Heck of a job by Detwiler. Kudos

[kaldaniels]

It's really a mystery on what has happened to Christian Yelich. The only major stat he is leading Joey Votto in is batting average and that is now a lot to brag about. Seems like when the big pay check comes for some of these guys, we find out those great seasons were a flash in the pan. Cody Bellinger is another example.

Pretty sure it’s back issues.

[Ron Madden]

Bobby Nightengale
@nightengalejr

Reds take two of three games from the Brewers and have a 6-1-1 record in their last eight series

[ShyGuy]

It's still nice to see wins and winning out series.

[757690]

Most remarkable stat of this season is that Hunter Strickland has 7 saves.

[Ron Madden]

Bobby Nightengale
@nightengalejr

The middle of the Brewers lineup took 10 swings at Alexis Díaz's slider in the eighth inning. Seven whiffs, three fouls and zero balls in play.

Díaz has retired 25 of the 29 batters he's faced since returning from the IL with 10 strikeouts.

[Sassy Sal]

Most remarkable stat of this season is that Hunter Strickland has 7 saves.

I try to not be so hard on Strickland. He really shouldn't be in this position of having to close. It was a good game all in all. You can't ask much more than for Ashcraft to match the Brewers Ace and the offense to get some timely hits and take advantage of the error in the 10th.

[Ron Madden]

Joel Luckhaupt
@jluckhaupt

Ross Detwiler is the 9th Red to record a save this year.

The franchise record is 10, set all the way back in 2021.

[SomeCallMeTim]

Most remarkable stat of this season is that Hunter Strickland has 7 saves.

And today was his 4th blown save. Not a good success rate.

Closers are like field goal kickers. They have to deliver when the game is on the line. Time to DFA.

[Reds]

I've seen enough of Solano to offer him a 1 year contract in the off season if the price is right.

[PuffyPig]

Pretty sure it’s back issues.

Likely from excessive steroids.


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[Ron Madden]

What Lance McAlister thinks of Strickland




LanceMcAlister
@LanceMcAlister

At some point Reds will concede what Strickland offers off field is not enough to offset the kick in the balls he offers this team on field.

[frostj14]

I'm not predicting that Alexis Diaz can be another Mariano Rivera, but Rivera averaged 58 appearances per season over a 19-year career and collected a ML record 652 saves and won 82 games. If the Reds are ever going to be a championship caliber organization they need to have a dependable closer who can help them win games, and to me that means Diaz needs to be the closer.

[frostj14]

Replying to Lance McAlister post.

I agree 100 %.

[kaldaniels]

Likely from excessive steroids.


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I was gonna say there was a non-zero chance it’s PED related. I know it’s appalling to suggest for some but the ascent and decline do kinda give off some vibes.

[KoryMac5]

Yelich is hitting .328 with a .453 OBP his last 15 games...back issues seem to have subsided and he appears to have altered his mechanics a bit from what I have read. I think he will be fine for a few more seasons...at 30 yrs old now the decline is eventual.

[kaldaniels]

Yelich is hitting .328 with a .453 OBP his last 15 games...back issues seem to have subsided and he appears to have altered his mechanics a bit from what I have read. I think he will be fine for a few more seasons...at 30 yrs old now the decline is eventual.

This isn’t a “last 15 games” situation - this is his overall drop from 2018. He fell fast.

[757690]

Likely from excessive steroids.


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The Brewers were accused of illegal sign stealing during Yelich’s big years. He cooled off the year the league started cracking down illegal sign stealing.

[Ky Fried Redleg]

I've seen enough of Solano to offer him a 1 year contract in the off season if the price is right.

Got that right! I hope he wants to stay. Dude's a baseball player.

[KoryMac5]

This isn’t a “last 15 games” situation - this is his overall drop from 2018. He fell fast.

Depends on how you look at it...for me his 2018, 2019 season seemed more outlier than the norm for him which may lend more credence to the PED rumor crowd. He's come back to his norms.

[TheBigLebowski]

What Lance McAlister thinks of Strickland

What off-field exploits?

[757690]

From Nightengale jr.


David Bell on Hunter Strickland: "We'll look for different ways to help get him through it, but ultimately, it's going to be him. He's done it for a long time, so he's going to find ways to get through this."

[Ron Madden]

What off-field exploits?




LanceMcAlister
@LanceMcAlister

At some point Reds will concede what Strickland offers off field is not enough to offset the kick in the balls he offers this team on field.




I pretty sure Lance was referring to the veteran presence the old school folks always believed was needed the clubhouse in order to win