8-15-22 Reds vs Phillies 6:40

[Ron Madden]

REDS
1. Jake Fraley (L) LF
2. Donovan Solano (R) DH
3. Kyle Farmer (R) 3B
4. Joey Votto (L) 1B
5. Albert Almora Jr. (R) CF
6. Matt Reynolds (R) 2B
7. Aristides Aquino (R) RF
8. Jose Barrero (R) SS
9. Michael Papierski (S) C
SP Mike Minor (L)

Phillies
1. Bryson Stott (L) SS
2. Rhys Hoskins (R) 1B
3. Alec Bohm (R) DH
4. J.T. Realmuto (R) C
5. Nick Castellanos (R) RF
6. Jean Segura (R) 2B
7. Edmundo Sosa (R) 3B
8. Brandon Marsh (L) CF
9. Matt Vierling (R) LFH
SP Noah Syndergaard (R)

[757690]

Glad to see India is healthy enough to start.

[KeefeCato]

Glad to see India is healthy enough to start.
Long way to first pitch. But if there is any doubt about future damage he should be shutdown.

[Ron Madden]

Have at it ya nattering nabobs of negativism.

Hope everybody enjoys the game. :)

[CrosleyVet]

Aquino's home run will keep him in the lineup for at least 10 games( 30 K's)

[Roy Tucker]

Have at it ya nattering nabobs of negativism.

Hope everybody enjoys the game. :)

Better than hopeless, hysterical hypochondriacs of history.

[LeatherPants]

India has been scratched.

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[Ky Fried Redleg]

Next to impossible to be a negative, nattering nabob when you have Papi and Minor on the field tonight. Those cats are super, scintillating, sensational AND sublime!!!

I do, however, feel the urge to cue up "I Ran(So Far Away)" by A Flock of Seagulls on a two hour loop before the game.

[Ron Madden]

Better than hopeless, hysterical hypochondriacs of history.

The Dreaded 4H Club

[NebraskaRed]

Why are they playing this pointless game with India? He got airlifted to a hospital. He couldn't fly so he had to drive back to Cincinnati. He should be on the IL.

[LeatherPants]

Why are they playing this pointless game with India? He got airlifted to a hospital. He couldn't fly so he had to drive back to Cincinnati. He should be on the IL.

It makes no sense.

[NebraskaRed]

It makes no sense.

And as a result, they'll play short for a few days before putting him on the IL anyway.

[KeefeCato]

Aquino's home run will keep him in the lineup for at least 10 games( 30 K's)

I mean I agree with you. But it's not like the other options are any better. Aquino does play great RF and he can run. The other OFer on the current roster I guess is injured again in Senzel as he was pulled from the game yesterday.
And I'm not sure Senzel could hit one out if he was allowed to hit the ball twice.

[757690]

And as a result, they'll play short for a few days before putting him on the IL anyway.

They don’t have enough actual MLB players to fill the 26 man roster. Bringing up a minor leaguer isn’t going to make much difference.

[Ironman92]

Reds have lost 9 straight starts by Minor

Homer Bailey lost 11 straight in 2018 and Reds were 1-19 in his starts that season….but he projected out the same as Scherzer at least

[mhs95_06]

Reds have lost 9 straight starts by Minor

Homer Bailey lost 11 straight in 2018 and Reds were 1-19 in his starts that season….but he projected out the same as Scherzer at least

Any blown saves by the Reds in any of those 9?

[mhs95_06]

Any blown saves by the Reds in any of those 9?

There were not. Two no decisions, one the Reds trailed 5-2 and later tied and then lost, the other he gave up a 2-0 lead with a 2 run HR in the 6th.

[mhs95_06]

If we could trade 3' from Votto's drive to Farmer's it'd be 1-0 and Votto would still be out!

[KeefeCato]

Thom is disappointed. He tuned in tonight to see his buddy Schwarber hit some HRs.

[Redsfan6272]

Was hoping for a bigger ovation fir Nick for calling the Reds out for tanking...

[Sassy Sal]

Hitting off of Mike Minor, so simple even a cave man can do it.

[mhs95_06]

Wasn't that the hit and run and Barrero was obligated by the sign to swing? The idea was to hit a DP ball that would be a run instead with the FO taken away by the steal attempt.

[VR]

Reds have lost 9 straight starts by Minor

Homer Bailey lost 11 straight in 2018 and Reds were 1-19 in his starts that season….but he projected out the same as Scherzer at least

And Homer made $21M that year. Minor is a bargain [emoji3]


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[mhs95_06]

And the big 2 out, 2 RBI hit mitigates the Barrero failure.

[Tony Cloninger]

This GT is gonna be rocking tonight.

[mhs95_06]

Even with the good fortune of getting a runner tagged out at 3rd, Minor still gives up the lead with a 3 run 3rd.

[OldFashionedRed]

Most us get fired pretty quickly if we suck at our jobs, I wonder what it's like for a major leaguer to stew on it all season knowing they're going to be let go?

[JCM11]

What's the deal with these pathetic swings Votto is taking? Is he hurt or what?

[Tony Cloninger]

What's the deal with these pathetic swings Votto is taking? Is he hurt or what?

He’s working on his swing like he does every year at all possible times during said year.

[JCM11]

He’s working on his swing like he does every year at all possible times during said year.

Well he came into tonight's game with a .564 OPS in August so he needs to figure something out. It seems to me like he can't lift the ball with any authority.

[CmdrCody]

He’s working on his swing like he does every year at all possible times during said year.

I used to work for him, but he’s too old for it now. I think .213 er oops .209 says it all for Votto. It was nice while he could hit, but he can’t even catch throws to first anymore. But the errors on most his misses go to the people throwing to him.

[Tony Cloninger]

If he’s hurt and playing through it he should just DH then. Bad enough India almost lost a leg now Canada has a bad back.

[RedTeamGo!]

I used to work for him, but he’s too old for it now. I think .213 er oops .209 says it all for Votto. It was nice while he could hit, but he can’t even catch throws to first anymore. But the errors on most his misses go to the people throwing to him.

What did Joey employ you to do?

[TheBigLebowski]

Thankful we only have Minor on a one year deal. I couldn’t get excited at all about another season if he had a spot in the rotation.

[OldFashionedRed]

What's the deal with these pathetic swings Votto is taking? Is he hurt or what?

He's done. OPS below 700. I'm sure it's age, but he's looked stiff and robotic this year.

[BCubb2003]

The Phillies logo is the closest thing in baseball to Comic Sans.

[Tony Cloninger]

What did Joey employ you to do?

Probably got his morning cafe and paper.

[Ky Fried Redleg]

Ian Gibaut makes Moose look fit.

[CrosleyVet]

Ian Gibaut makes Moose look fit.

Barrero now screwing up on defense too

[TheBigLebowski]

Barrero now screwing up on defense too

I think this is what certain folk call a non-sequitor

[Ky Fried Redleg]

According to the Urban Dictionary, Gibaut is : The name given to a chubby person who doesn't have a high I.Q., and eats bacon wrapped mayonaisse filled hotdogs multiple times a day.

[coryfly]

According to the Urban Dictionary, Gibaut is : The name given to a chubby person who doesn't have a high I.Q., and eats bacon wrapped mayonaisse filled hotdogs multiple times a day.

I would eat anything filled with mayo and wrapped in bacon tbh.

[Ky Fried Redleg]

Eighth inning. Three whole pages of game commentary. Neat ...

[Ron Madden]

Eighth inning. Three whole pages of game commentary. Neat ...

Most of the people that actually discussed the game no longer participate in the game threads, tonight's thread is an excellent example as to why they don't.

[kaldaniels]

Syndergarrd is at 74 pitches in the eighth?

Man.

[757690]

Jake Fraley may be the Kyle Farmer of the Winker deal.

[Ron Madden]

Fraley goes deep! Now 4-3 Phil's as Syndergarrd leaves the game

[Jerry Narron]

Something is definitely up with Votto.

[Ironman92]

Farmer showing Votto you can stop going to 2nd when play is in front of you

What is Joey doing? 4 at bats and has seen what? 5 pitches? Made 5 outs.

Good strategy

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Something is definitely up with Votto.

My best guess was he was going to attack Noah early….1st AB struck it well on first pitch but out, 2nd AB not as good but ok….then 3rd AB pitcher thinking he’s going to take 1st now but Joey thought with that

No clue what he was doing that AB

[Ironman92]

Laugh and jest and say what you want, but Farmer is definitely a ball player

[WVRedsFan]

Does Strickland hav pictures of management? He’s a mess

[Ky Fried Redleg]

If Hunter Strickland was an '80's song, would he be :

a) "It's the End of the World as We Know It"--- R.E.M.

b) "Cruel Summer" ---Bananarama

c) "Livin' on a Prayer" --- Bon Jovi

d) "I Can't Go For That(No Can Do) --- Hall&Oates

e) "When Doves Cry" --- Prince

f) Burning Down the House" ---Talking Heads

[WVRedsFan]

D

[KeefeCato]

A pitcher that takes forever to throw a pitch. Usually means he has nothing. Like Strickland and Remember Heath Hembree?

[kaldaniels]

Laugh and jest and say what you want, but Farmer is definitely a ball player

Not the most athletic. But he really does know how to read/play the ball.

[KeefeCato]

Are the Phillies wishing they would have passed on Castellanos?

[Ron Madden]

Pretty Pitch!

[Red Raindog]

If Hunter Strickland was an '80's song, would he be :

a) "It's the End of the World as We Know It"--- R.E.M.

b) "Cruel Summer" ---Bananarama

c) "Livin' on a Prayer" --- Bon Jovi

d) "I Can't Go For That(No Can Do) --- Hall&Oates

e) "When Doves Cry" --- Prince

f) Burning Down the House" ---Talking Heads

The answer is F
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[malcontent]

Who saw the years Castellano and Winker have had so far?

[Ky Fried Redleg]

Strychnine is en fuego !

[KeefeCato]

Who saw the years Castellano and Winker have had so far?

Just goes to show. You just never know from one year to the next. And every single player is a risk/gamble.
Alexis Diaz might be awful next year. There are no guarantees on any player. The way I see it

[WVRedsFan]

K.

[Ron Madden]

Another Pretty Pitch!!

[Ky Fried Redleg]

Hunter is amazing!!! WOW! ...

NOT !!!

[Ironman92]

If Hunter Strickland was an '80's song, would he be :

a) "It's the End of the World as We Know It"--- R.E.M.

b) "Cruel Summer" ---Bananarama

c) "Livin' on a Prayer" --- Bon Jovi

d) "I Can't Go For That(No Can Do) --- Hall&Oates

e) "When Doves Cry" --- Prince

f) Burning Down the House" ---Talking Heads


I’ll go with:

Make Me Lose Control…Eric Carmen

One More Try…George Michael

Rocket….Def Leppard

Here I Go Again…Whitesnake

[Ky Fried Redleg]

You wonder if Strickland would have fared as well if he was trying to protect a one-run lead in the ninth. He has not been good in that role. That said, let's get Strick a win!!!

[Ron Madden]

Phils win 4-3

[WVRedsFan]

Not many pitches taken all night and we seed another loss. I don’t know who that is that is pitching for our guys, so I fear the worst.

[Tony Cloninger]

Well the bullpen pitched great. I though Thor was going to go the distance. Old school CG that was not a shut out.

[VR]

Laugh and jest and say what you want, but Farmer is definitely a ball player

3 hit night gets him up to a .718 OpS. Well-below-average ball player……and yet, a ball player. And, our #3 hitter, at least until Moose is back.


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[Ironman92]

Not the most athletic. But he really does know how to read/play the ball.

For an MLB player….he might be average athletically but even without great athleticism he’s solid on defense. He also needs platooned vs righties but he’s also killing righties right now.

[TheBigLebowski]

3 hit night gets him up to a .718 OpS. Well-below-average ball player……and yet, a ball player. And, our #3 hitter, at least until Moose is back.


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1.3 WAR in 2022

[SomeCallMeTim]

If Hunter Strickland was an '80's song, would he be :

a) "It's the End of the World as We Know It"--- R.E.M.

b) "Cruel Summer" ---Bananarama

c) "Livin' on a Prayer" --- Bon Jovi

d) "I Can't Go For That(No Can Do) --- Hall&Oates

e) "When Doves Cry" --- Prince

f) Burning Down the House" ---Talking Heads

Good choices but the correct answer is “Bad” from Michael Jackson.

https://media2.giphy.com/media/3R9BFSCHK7O5W/giphy.gif

Come on. I mean,”sha-mon”.

[Ironman92]

3 hit night gets him up to a .718 OpS. Well-below-average ball player……and yet, a ball player. And, our #3 hitter, at least until Moose is back.


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This team has been brutal lately and losing Pham, Drury and Naquin and all 3 have been nicely productive for those better teams….while the Reds have essentially replaced those 3 with 2 automatic outs and worst contact guys anywhere and Almora/Reynolds who are functional on this team.

Votto bats 4th every day come hell or high water ….people on here saying smart guys in front office are constructing lineup everyday…..but they live and die with Votto at 3 or whether his OPS is .579 or .719, worst baserunning player I’ve seen in a long time. Lazy with his secondary leads and bad instincts mixed with well below average speed. Defensively the guy cannot correctly stretch towards a throw to best extend himself making the bang bang plays go the other way. Often not in ready position on the pitch like every defensive player out there from 10u up. He has trouble catching ball from shoe high to mid shin high….I don’t think I’ve ever seen that in the MLB. If you don’t know who he is and he’s on any D1 college team trying out.. is he going to earn the position based on his defense only? I don’t think he is.

Reds would never move BP down in the order and they won’t do it with Votto either.

He’s intelligent, he’s interesting and he’s had a great offensive career….but he’s been on a free pass a crazy long time.

[Ron Madden]

Joel Luckhaupt
@jluckhaupt

Joey Votto has seen 4 pitches in 4 PA tonight. That would be the fewest pitches he's ever seen in a game with at least 3 PA.

It's only the 2nd time he's had 4 one-pitch PA in a game. The other was his 3-HR game vs Philadelphia on 6/9/2015.

[JCM11]

What's the deal with these pathetic swings Votto is taking? Is he hurt or what?

Just wanted to bump this to say yeah he was hurt. I've seen enough Votto swings to know he wasn't looking right.