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Ron Madden
08-17-2022, 10:53 AM
Reds
1. Jonathan India (R) DH
2. Jake Fraley (L) LF
3. Kyle Farmer (R) 3B
4. Matt Reynolds (R) 1B
5. Albert Almora Jr. (R) CF
6. Aristides Aquino (R) RF
7. Alejo Lopez (S) 2B
8. Jose Barrero (R) SS
9. Austin Romine (R) C
SP Nick Lodolo (L)

Phillies
1. Jean Segura (R) 2B
2. Rhys Hoskins (R) 1B
3. Alec Bohm (R) 3B
4. J.T. Realmuto (R) C
5. Nick Castellanos (R) RF
6. Edmundo Sosa (R) SS
7. Darick Hall (L) DH
8. Matt Vierling (R) CF
9. Nick Maton (L) LF
SP Ranger Suarez (L)

KeefeCato
08-17-2022, 11:19 AM
That might be the worst lineup yet. Hopefully they can avoid the sweep.

mth123
08-17-2022, 11:53 AM
That might be the worst lineup yet. Hopefully they can avoid the sweep.

Matt Reynolds hitting clean-up. Worse is that of the guys in the line-up, he's probably the best choice.

Kc61
08-17-2022, 12:25 PM
Suarez has some serious ground ball tendencies.

Bottom half of Reds lineup includes. Albert, Aristedes, Alejo and Austin.

Not sure it’s a very good lineup, but kind of poetic.

Ron Madden
08-17-2022, 01:10 PM
Cincinnati Reds
@Reds

The Reds today placed on the bereavement list RHP Buck Farmer and activated from the 15-day injured list RHP Art Warren.

SomeCallMeTim
08-17-2022, 01:17 PM
Suarez has some serious ground ball tendencies.

Bottom half of Reds lineup includes. Albert, Aristedes, Alejo and Austin.

Not sure itís a very good lineup, but kind of poetic.

That's either alliteration or assonance. :confused: One of the two. I think it's the later.

KeefeCato
08-17-2022, 01:22 PM
I cant believe Zuech is still on the team. If there isn't a better option in AAA than him. Then the Reds are worse off than I thought.

CySeymour
08-17-2022, 01:27 PM
I cant believe Zuech is still on the team. If there isn't a better option in AAA than him. Then the Reds are worse off than I thought.

This is what you get when your #1 and #2 starters get traded, and another of your starters goes on the DL. It's late in the season in a lost year, and no reason to rush up anyone. My guess is until Greene is ready to go again, this is what you get. Even then Ashcraft will be nearing his innings limit.

KeefeCato
08-17-2022, 01:32 PM
This is what you get when your #1 and #2 starters get traded, and another of your starters goes on the DL. It's late in the season in a lost year, and no reason to rush up anyone. My guess is until Greene is ready to go again, this is what you get. Even then Ashcraft will be nearing his innings limit.

I agree I don't wanna see them rush any pitchers. But has to be someone a 4a guy or a older x major leaguer. Or a wavier wire claim. Someone better. I mean Mike Minor type would even be a improvement.
Happy for the local guy to get a couple starts. But enough is enough.

KeefeCato
08-17-2022, 01:49 PM
India strikes out then limps from the plate. I admire him wanting to play. But he seriously needs to be placed on the IL.

KeefeCato
08-17-2022, 01:52 PM
Suarez would look good pitching for the Reds next year. Sinker would play great in the bandbox.

icehole3
08-17-2022, 01:54 PM
About the SP's. My guess is they're trying to keep one's head above water until Sept. 1.

KeefeCato
08-17-2022, 01:56 PM
About the SP's. My guess is they're trying to keep one's head above water until Sept. 1.

September means nothing now. Only allowed 2 callups.

icehole3
08-17-2022, 01:58 PM
September means nothing now. Only allowed 2 callups.

2 SP's better than none.

BCubb2003
08-17-2022, 02:02 PM
Suarez has some serious ground ball tendencies.

Bottom half of Reds lineup includes. Albert, Aristedes, Alejo and Austin.

Not sure it’s a very good lineup, but kind of poetic.

The Quadruple A’s

mhs95_06
08-17-2022, 02:08 PM
Two zeroes by Lodolo.

icehole3
08-17-2022, 02:09 PM
Suarez going to throw a no-no

JCM11
08-17-2022, 02:10 PM
Our AA lineup is better than this lol.

Reds Freak
08-17-2022, 02:13 PM
Lopez is a nice AAAA piece to have around.

icehole3
08-17-2022, 02:19 PM
nice Lopez

chicoruiz
08-17-2022, 02:23 PM
Suarez would look good pitching for the Reds next year. Sinker would play great in the bandbox.

Nah, he obviously needs to end up in Texas. Dave Philley never played for the Phillies; we need a karma correctionÖ

BCubb2003
08-17-2022, 02:27 PM
Nah, he obviously needs to end up in Texas. Dave Philley never played for the Phillies; we need a karma correction…

I think he has a brother named Astro.

mhs95_06
08-17-2022, 02:38 PM
Nice base running job by Castellanos to beat the throw from AA trying for the force on the bloop dropped into no mans land.

Reds Freak
08-17-2022, 02:40 PM
Lodolo looks good today. Worked around two balls that should have been caught in the outfield that inning.

mhs95_06
08-17-2022, 02:41 PM
Almora with a good job taking charge over Alejo on the pop-up. Good job on the cover by Lodolo. Good defense in the end by the Reds after the inning started with a hiccup by AA.

chicoruiz
08-17-2022, 02:45 PM
This Reds outfit taking on the Pirates and the Nationals on the upcoming road trip should set the game of baseball back a hundred years or so…

WildcatFan
08-17-2022, 02:52 PM
I think I can honestly say I've never seen an outfielder make that play before. That was incredible.

NebraskaRed
08-17-2022, 02:54 PM
Alejo Lopez cannot be stopped.

CesarGeronimo
08-17-2022, 02:58 PM
Suarez has some serious ground ball tendencies.

Bottom half of Reds lineup includes. Albert, Aristedes, Alejo and Austin.

Not sure itís a very good lineup, but kind of poetic.

It's too bad they don't have Friedl in the top half of the lineup to go with Fraley and Farmer. The F-emup lineup.

KeefeCato
08-17-2022, 02:58 PM
Mahle pitching against KC today.

Tony Cloninger
08-17-2022, 02:59 PM
This Reds outfit taking on the Pirates and the Nationals on the upcoming road trip should set the game of baseball back a hundred years or so…

You should have seen those St Louis Browns/Washington Senators/Philadelphia A’s matchups from the late 30s through early 50s. Except 1943-44 years. The salad days for the Browns.

icehole3
08-17-2022, 02:59 PM
I think I can honestly say I've never seen an outfielder make that play before. That was incredible.

Roberto Clemente out there in RF.

Tony Cloninger
08-17-2022, 03:00 PM
September means nothing now. Only allowed 2 callups.

Dumb rule. It should be at least 4. 2 pitchers max. I understand why they did it but itís too low.

NebraskaRed
08-17-2022, 03:00 PM
Mahle pitching against KC today.

Looks like they took him out after 2.1 innings.

KeefeCato
08-17-2022, 03:01 PM
Roberto Clemente out there in RF.

I would have liked to see Clemente play LF in Fenway.

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Looks like they took him out after 2.1 innings.

Yikes. Not good. Still says top 3 though.

NebraskaRed
08-17-2022, 03:02 PM
I would have liked to see Clemente play LF in Fenway.

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Yikes. Not good.


Aaron Gleeman
@AaronGleeman

Tyler Mahle exits with a trainer midway through the third inning after struggling to top 90 mph with many of his fastballs.

KeefeCato
08-17-2022, 03:03 PM
Dumb rule. It should be at least 4. 2 pitchers max. I understand why they did it but it’s too low.

Yes it's stupid. Another Manfred rule I'm sure.

KeefeCato
08-17-2022, 03:05 PM
That sucks. Hopefully not season ending thing. For Mahle.

JFLegal
08-17-2022, 03:07 PM
Lodolo's ERA now down to exactly 4.20.

time to spark one up.

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so we won the mahle trade?

too soon?

mhs95_06
08-17-2022, 03:11 PM
7 hitter leads off with a double, but disappointing to me the 8th and 9th hitters with poor offensive stats have a chance to show how they can contribute to scoring runs in a scoreless game and can't even make productive outs. India could have been safe on that bad throw and continued the inning if he had any athleticism left in his injured body.

KeefeCato
08-17-2022, 03:11 PM
Fraley doesn't look like the same hitter against a LHP. Another platoon guy on a team full of platoon guys.

Sea Ray
08-17-2022, 03:12 PM
September means nothing now. Only allowed 2 callups.

My guess is that they DFA a few veterans in Sept and bring in more than 2. I know that's what I'd do

mhs95_06
08-17-2022, 03:16 PM
Yes it's stupid. Another Manfred rule I'm sure.

I think they are going at the problem the wrong way. They should let the active roster go up to like 32 in September, but each games line-up card can only have 22 or 23 names on it to be eligible for that game.

KeefeCato
08-17-2022, 03:17 PM
They are off tomorrow. So hopefully Diaz will pitch 2 innings today. Provided he doesn't throw many pitches to get 6 outs
Be nice to avoid the sweep, but the last thing they need to do is over work Diaz.
I get the feeling that we will see Warren in the 8th though.

Tom Servo
08-17-2022, 03:21 PM
man if only Williamson could stop walking everyone in the minors this year I'd be so cool to see him and Lodolo both having starts like this

Reds Freak
08-17-2022, 03:22 PM
Best start of Lodolo's career so far? 7 IP, 5 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 2 BB, 8 K.

mhs95_06
08-17-2022, 03:22 PM
They are off tomorrow. So hopefully Diaz will pitch 2 innings today. Provided he doesn't throw many pitches to get 6 outs
Be nice to avoid the sweep, but the last thing they need to do is over work Diaz.
I get the feeling that we will see Warren in the 8th though.

I don't see him going in until maybe the 9th if its tie or Reds leading. But even in a tie I might wait for the ghost runners of the 10th and maybe the 11th. By the way I like the Little League softball rule of playing the 1st extra inning straight up, and then the ghost runner for the remainder.

BCubb2003
08-17-2022, 03:23 PM
Lodolo’s 24 and balding.

Tony Cloninger
08-17-2022, 03:27 PM
Great work by Darling Nicky

icehole3
08-17-2022, 03:27 PM
Lodolo’s 24 and balding.

Looks like he has a few years of hair left.

mhs95_06
08-17-2022, 03:29 PM
Diaz warming in the 7th? Bell must want to be sure he pitches an inning today with the off day tomorrow.

CesarGeronimo
08-17-2022, 03:29 PM
Looks like he has a few years of hair left.

Not with this bullpen.

KeefeCato
08-17-2022, 03:34 PM
9 strikeouts for Reds pitching. 2 more and fans in stands get free nasty cardboard pizza.

David Cubbedge
08-17-2022, 03:36 PM
Barerro refuses to take a walk. Absolutely pressing. He wasn't fooled there, he demands, of himself, a hit.

KeefeCato
08-17-2022, 03:37 PM
Diaz warming in the 7th? Bell must want to be sure he pitches an inning today with the off day tomorrow.

I'd say just pitch him. Two innings per outing from here on out. With a 30 pitch limit per outing.
This would be every 3rd or 4th day. Because he should only pitch in tie games or games which the Reds have a lead. No way that's going be more than once every 3 days on average.

VR
08-17-2022, 03:38 PM
7 pitches, 7 strikes, 3 outs.

Maybe we should have an off-season contest to see what Timmy Trumpet song can blast while Alexis jogs in to close games next year?


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KeefeCato
08-17-2022, 03:41 PM
Friedl lead off hit. Try to steal or hit and run with India. Try to make something happen.
I'd even go for a bunt and I hate bunts.

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Instead we get a pop out to SS. Way to make a productive out.

KeefeCato
08-17-2022, 03:45 PM
Time for birthday boy Farmer to deliver a game winner.

Tony Cloninger
08-17-2022, 03:46 PM
Patience is really difficult with the approach you see from Barrero. Aquino I’ve already given up on. Even 1972 George Foster showed something despite a 5 BB to 44 K ledger and 200 BA.

Tony Cloninger
08-17-2022, 03:49 PM
7 pitches, 7 strikes, 3 outs.

Maybe we should have an off-season contest to see what Timmy Trumpet song can blast while Alexis jogs in to close games next year?


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I just want to know how we can clone at least 1 other reliever like him. Maybe 1 a year like him is the best we can hope for.

KeefeCato
08-17-2022, 03:49 PM
Patience is really difficult with the approach you see from Barrero. Aquino I’ve already given up on. Even 1972 George Foster showed something despite a 5 BB to 44 K ledger and 200 BA.

The reason the Reds seldom walk anymore is they have no power. Pitchers pound the strike zone on 7 of the hitters. Barrero and Aquino just get sliders in the dirt. Cause pitchers know they don't even have to throw them a strike.

icehole3
08-17-2022, 03:51 PM
Patience is really difficult with the approach you see from Barrero. Aquino I’ve already given up on. Even 1972 George Foster showed something despite a 5 BB to 44 K ledger and 200 BA.

Sounds like Aquino is willing to move on from baseball before he changes his approach.

KeefeCato
08-17-2022, 03:54 PM
Either win this game in the 9th or its likely a loss.
Because Diaz will not pitch the 10th.

Tony Cloninger
08-17-2022, 03:54 PM
Sounds like Aquino is willing to move on from baseball before he changes his approach.

Well at least the Reds moved on from Rolando Roomes faster. If he was a Ken Berry or Mike Anderson GG type of OF who both could barely hit in the low .200 then ok. I blame the Reds brass at this point in time for continuing to subject everyone to him starting.

KeefeCato
08-17-2022, 03:55 PM
Somewhere Thom just threw something at his TV on his buddy Kyle's pop out.

TheBigLebowski
08-17-2022, 03:57 PM
Haven’t seen any of this game. 0-0, B9?

Are the teams using bats?

Big Klu
08-17-2022, 04:00 PM
Nah, he obviously needs to end up in Texas. Dave Philley never played for the Phillies; we need a karma correction…

Dave Philley played three years for the Phillies -- 1958, 1959, and part of 1960 before being sold to the Giants.

icehole3
08-17-2022, 04:02 PM
Pitiful

KeefeCato
08-17-2022, 04:04 PM
Up to Barrero.

icehole3
08-17-2022, 04:05 PM
https://c.tenor.com/Y0gl6YxNauIAAAAC/boom-denzel.gif

KeefeCato
08-17-2022, 04:05 PM
This one belongs to the Reds. Barrero delivers

Ron Madden
08-17-2022, 04:06 PM
REDS WIN!!!

TexasRedsFan
08-17-2022, 04:07 PM
Most unlikely outcome. I was yelling for Bell to PH Votto for Barerro, but as usual he's a genius. Baseball is a funny game.

Tom Servo
08-17-2022, 04:07 PM
We’re good again :beerme:

mhs95_06
08-17-2022, 04:07 PM
Mistake to throw a non breaking ball, even though he did pound it into the ground! Reds get a win to prevent the sweep.

VR
08-17-2022, 04:09 PM
Love that Diaz was the first out, and hugged him for about a minute.


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Ron Madden
08-17-2022, 04:23 PM
I feel kinda sorry for the Reds players and coaches that are out there grinding, playing and working hard everyday only to be left hung out to dry by ownership.

TheBigLebowski
08-17-2022, 04:33 PM
Build on that, Barrero. Nice.

Mutaman
08-17-2022, 04:38 PM
I feel kinda sorry for the Reds players and coaches that are out there grinding, playing and working hard everyday only to be left hung out to dry by ownership.

I feel kinda sorry for me.

Tony Cloninger
08-17-2022, 04:50 PM
I feel kinda sorry for the Reds players and coaches that are out there grinding, playing and working hard everyday only to be left hung out to dry by ownership.

Well said. Happy for Jose. Well deserved win.

JFLegal
08-17-2022, 05:35 PM
I feel kinda sorry for me.

ha, exactly. don't feel sorry for the players making millions. feel bad for diehard reds' fans who have to put up with this garbage almost every year. hey, at least they won today and lodolo was great. basically the only days i'm rooting for the reds to win right is when lodolo and ashcraft pitch.

Roy Tucker
08-17-2022, 06:07 PM
I feel kinda sorry for the Reds players and coaches that are out there grinding, playing and working hard everyday only to be left hung out to dry by ownership.

Yeah. I’ve seen good effort by players and coaches. The front office and ownership? Nope.

klw
08-17-2022, 07:43 PM
Just saw that throw by Aquino. It may be one of the greatest throws I have seen.

video here:

https://www.mlb.com/reds/video/nick-lodolo-in-play-out-s-to-alec-bohm?t=top-defensive-plays