2022-2023 College Basketball Thread

[WVRed]

Looks like One and Done is coming to an end:

NBA reportedly expects to lower draft eligibility age to 18

https://www.on3.com/teams/kentucky-wildcats/news/nba-reportedly-considering-lowering-draft-eligibilty-age-18/

Between this and the G-League route the talent in college basketball will be a lot worse but overall it will be good for the sport.

[Rojo Rijo]

nm

[cumberlandreds]

I think its better for the sport too. Most people only watch for the NCAA tournament anyway. They don't care at that point what players are playing. They just want their team(S) to win to advance in the pool. Only niche areas are really into the sport like Kentucky, Indiana etc.... I will like it better in that UK may not have a totally new team every year. Maybe most will stick around for 3 or 4 years.

[Boston Red]

I guess that means Lebron James gets to retire a year earlier than he expected as Bronny won't have to spend a year in college.

[Assembly Hall]

Looks like One and Done is coming to an end:

NBA reportedly expects to lower draft eligibility age to 18

https://www.on3.com/teams/kentucky-wildcats/news/nba-reportedly-considering-lowering-draft-eligibilty-age-18/

Between this and the G-League route the talent in college basketball will be a lot worse but overall it will be good for the sport.

I really wish the NBA would adopt the MLB rule.

[WVRed]

I think its better for the sport too. Most people only watch for the NCAA tournament anyway. They don't care at that point what players are playing. They just want their team(S) to win to advance in the pool. Only niche areas are really into the sport like Kentucky, Indiana etc.... I will like it better in that UK may not have a totally new team every year. Maybe most will stick around for 3 or 4 years.

I would agree with this except NIL and the transfer portal has eliminated the possibility of any of it happening.

With NIL there might not be as big a jump to the NBA straight out of high school either.

[Assembly Hall]

In case anybody missed it:

https://www.detroitnews.com/story/sports/college/2022/09/19/emu-basketball-recruit-emoni-bates-faces-gun-charges/10426971002/

[WVRed]

In case anybody missed it:

https://www.detroitnews.com/story/sports/college/2022/09/19/emu-basketball-recruit-emoni-bates-faces-gun-charges/10426971002/

I really want to see a 30/30 on this kid.

Next LeBron/Zion Williamson sure thing to transferring back to a lower level college and then get arrested.

He has the OJ Mayo vibe if there ever was one.

[adkindo]

Very interesting add by WVU/Huggins very late in the process.....Manhattan transfer Jose Perez who was the MAAC Preseason POY going into this season (Coach @ Manhatten was recently terminated). Snagged him as a walk-on (with NIL backing I am sure). Officially he will not be available until January, but the waiver has been submitted for immediate eligibility.

https://247sports.com/college/west-virginia/Article/Basketball-recruiting-West-Virginia-Jose-Perez-transfer-portal-196500552/

Still not sure of this teams ceiling, but after watching the recent scrimmage against Bowling Green, it appears clear this team is more of a Huggins type roster than we have seen since the Jevon Carter era. Loaded with guards of different sizes and athleticism along with several big bodies to pull down boards. Also, similar to most Huggins rosters, do not see a lot of above average perimeter shooting.....mostly defensive minded perimeter players. Very solid athleticism across all positions. Definitely expect to see more of Press Virginia than we have seen in recent years. Again, still no idea if they are a Big12 contender or even a tournament bid contender.....need to see more against better competition.

Btw, Huggins appears to have did a 180 degree turn with his portal opinion. He may not admit it yet, but he seems to love being able to go get his type of guys with experience. Now the question is can his kind of guys win a lot of games in 2022-23?

[WVRed]

Big 12 looking to add Gonzaga:

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/34934063/sources-gonzaga-talks-big-12-joining-conference

[adkindo]

Big 12 looking to add Gonzaga:

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/34934063/sources-gonzaga-talks-big-12-joining-conference

I really hope this does not happen.....not a smart direction for a conference that is trying to hold onto relevancy in a changing environment driven by football.

[Boston Red]

If Gonzaga moves, they really belong in the Big East.

[Sea Ray]

If Gonzaga moves, they really belong in the Big East.

Geographically they don't. Travel costs would be a nightmare

[Boston Red]

Geographically they don't. Travel costs would be a nightmare

In 2023 with private jets it wouldn't be that big a deal. Travel would be easier for Gonzaga than most sports in the Missouri Valley getting on buses. But I don't necessarily think Gonzaga should change conferences. Just that if they do, they'd fit in the Big East much better than in the Big XII.

[westofyou]

In 2023 with private jets it wouldn't be that big a deal. Travel would be easier for Gonzaga than most sports in the Missouri Valley getting on buses. But I don't necessarily think Gonzaga should change conferences. Just that if they do, they'd fit in the Big East much better than in the Big XII.

It's more the travel time. Part of the big push against the USC/UCLA move to the Big 10 is the amount of time student athletes are going to be in planes, crossing time zones (in all sports) and what affect that has on their lives as students. Additionally Gonzaga is tucked up in an area that is even a little further away. Plus, is depending on "Private Jets"
an affordable path for a small Jesuit school?

[Sea Ray]

In 2023 with private jets it wouldn't be that big a deal. Travel would be easier for Gonzaga than most sports in the Missouri Valley getting on buses. But I don't necessarily think Gonzaga should change conferences. Just that if they do, they'd fit in the Big East much better than in the Big XII.

Private jets would likely be quite pricey in 2023

[bucksfan2]

In 2023 with private jets it wouldn't be that big a deal. Travel would be easier for Gonzaga than most sports in the Missouri Valley getting on buses. But I don't necessarily think Gonzaga should change conferences. Just that if they do, they'd fit in the Big East much better than in the Big XII.

Yea, it sure would be fun to watch them in the Big East, but logistically it would be a nightmare.

Could they join the Big12 for basketball and only that? I have no doubt Gonzaga basketball makes quite a big of cash, but basketball doesn't bring in the money that football does. It seems that the added travel without the revenue of football would be something pretty pricy to overcome.

[Boston Red]

It's more the travel time.

They'd be flying by private jet. That is significantly quicker from Spokane to Storrs, CT. than when Wichita State's baseball team took a bus to Evansville and Indiana State (in different weekends) back in the MVC days. And I see the Wichita State volleyball team in the Wichita airport heading to Temple sometimes. When they do that, they're in the airport an hour ahead of time, and they're on my flight to Chicago. After at least an hour layover, they fly from Chicago to Philly. Easily a longer travel time than heading to the hangar in Spokane 5 minutes before wheels up and taking a direct flight to Providence.

[Boston Red]

It's a ten hour bus ride from Louisville, KY to Conway, AR. Does that make it a problem for Bellarmine's baseball team to be in a conference with Central Arkansas?

[westofyou]

They'd be flying by private jet. That is significantly quicker from Spokane to Storrs, CT. than when Wichita State's baseball team took a bus to Evansville and Indiana State (in different weekends) back in the MVC days. And I see the Wichita State volleyball team in the Wichita airport heading to Temple sometimes. When they do that, they're in the airport an hour ahead of time, and they're on my flight to Chicago. After at least an hour layover, they fly from Chicago to Philly. Easily a longer travel time than heading to the hangar in Spokane 5 minutes before wheels up and taking a direct flight to Providence.

They'd be flying by private jet.

Somehow that just sounds unsustainable and definitely dollar chasing.

[Boston Red]

They'd be flying by private jet.

Somehow that just sounds unsustainable and definitely dollar chasing.

They'd need to make it basketball only for sure. But every major college basketball program has been flying by private jet for a long time.

[Assembly Hall]

Maybe Gonzaga can move their campus to Norman, Oklahoma or Austin, Texas?

[Chip R]

They'd need to make it basketball only for sure. But every major college basketball program has been flying by private jet for a long time.

The closest school to them now is Portland. Everybody else is in California or Utah. I think they are traveling by private jet anyway. Of course the problem is the length of the trips and the time zones.

[Boston Red]

The closest school to them now is Portland. Everybody else is in California or Utah. I think they are traveling by private jet anyway. Of course the problem is the length of the trips and the time zones.

Of course they're flying by private jet already. The length of the trip (in time) would be longer but still shorter than the trips most non-revenue sports have to take to get to places much, much closer together.

[westofyou]

The closest school to them now is Portland. Everybody else is in California or Utah. I think they are traveling by private jet anyway. Of course the problem is the length of the trips and the time zones.

I like their league, it's all religious schools in tiny arenas.

I have to ask though, will Gonzaga be a force forever?

[Boston Red]

I have to ask though, will Gonzaga be a force forever?

I think that's why they're NOW looking to get out of the WCC. Mark Few can't coach forever, and getting into a league like the Big XII (or Big East!) would likely make it easier for their program to stay relevant once Few retires.

[WVRed]

Bob Huggins: “Gonzaga would be in for an awakening if they join the Big 12”.

Bob Huggins is 0-5 against Gonzaga.

I think someone else should have made that point.

[Chip R]

I think that's why they're NOW looking to get out of the WCC. Mark Few can't coach forever, and getting into a league like the Big XII (or Big East!) would likely make it easier for their program to stay relevant once Few retires.

Opportunities like that don't come along every day.

[adkindo]

Bob Huggins: “Gonzaga would be in for an awakening if they join the Big 12”.

Bob Huggins is 0-5 against Gonzaga.

I think someone else should have made that point.

I personally did not think the comment was needed.....especially since they have beat us several times over the last decade. At the same time, I bet you Few would admit that WVU has been one of the five toughest teams they have played multiple times in recent years....there have been some battles. Still, I think Huggins point is it is very different to have a big game in December against Duke or even a tough early season tournament compared to playing @ Baylor on a Saturday, then @ Texas Tech on Monday, then return home on Wednesday to play Kansas. Most seasons the Big12 is brutal because there rarely is more than one...maybe two below average teams....then the travel on top of that. Btw, I do not really know of the connection, but Few is one of Huggins close friends in the sport.

[texasdave]

Appalachian State just hung up 83 points onto the scoreboard against the Owls of Warren Wilson. That was in the first half alone.

[WVRed]

I personally did not think the comment was needed.....especially since they have beat us several times over the last decade. At the same time, I bet you Few would admit that WVU has been one of the five toughest teams they have played multiple times in recent years....there have been some battles. Still, I think Huggins point is it is very different to have a big game in December against Duke or even a tough early season tournament compared to playing @ Baylor on a Saturday, then @ Texas Tech on Monday, then return home on Wednesday to play Kansas. Most seasons the Big12 is brutal because there rarely is more than one...maybe two below average teams....then the travel on top of that. Btw, I do not really know of the connection, but Few is one of Huggins close friends in the sport.

Going back and reading the article that was likely the point Huggins was making and I would agree with that. If not for WVU getting some “friends” it would have been in their best interest to try to get into a better fit geographically as well.

Three of the five games have been competitive. The first two were blowouts.

[Kingspoint]

Looks like One and Done is coming to an end:

NBA reportedly expects to lower draft eligibility age to 18

https://www.on3.com/teams/kentucky-wildcats/news/nba-reportedly-considering-lowering-draft-eligibilty-age-18/

Between this and the G-League route the talent in college basketball will be a lot worse but overall it will be good for the sport.

It's never been right for the Universities to be able to exploit their services for millions of dollars. It really is a system akin to indentured servitude.

Indentured Servitude:

Indentured servitude is a form of labor in which a person is contracted to work without salary for a specific number of years. The contract, called an "indenture", may be entered voluntarily for eventual compensation or debt repayment, or it may be imposed as a judicial punishment.

If you're African-American, I can't imagine what it must represent or feel like.

[Boston Red]

Louisville lost to Bellarmine. There's a sentence I never expected to write. Kenny Payne honeymoon is over quickly.

[WVRed]

Louisville lost to Bellarmine. There's a sentence I never expected to write. Kenny Payne honeymoon is over quickly.

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[Assembly Hall]

Louisville lost to Bellarmine. There's a sentence I never expected to write. Kenny Payne honeymoon is over quickly.

Ouch.

[RedTeamGo!]

Gooooooooo Dayton Flyers!

[Assembly Hall]

Louisville lost to Bellarmine. There's a sentence I never expected to write. Kenny Payne honeymoon is over quickly.

Ouch again.

[adkindo]

Trying not to to drink the Kool-Aid, but starting to have good vibes about this WVU team. Curb stomped a bad Pitt team this weekend, but it was more about the approach and pieces. There is a chance that this team could be like past good Huggins WVU teams where our First Five may not be the better First Five that night, but our Top 10(+) is better than their Top 10. Right now, it appears to be very deep....athletic....and a little nasty in attitude. The best player, Texas transfer Tre Mitchell, is still coming back from injury and playing limited minutes....but is flashing legit all conference level skills when he is on the floor.

Huggs has a bunch a defensive minded athletic guards like we did during Press Virginia in returning starting PG Kedrian Johnson, Iowa transfer (started for Iowa) PG Joe Toussaint, South Carolina transfer (started for SC) CG Erik Stevenson, returning Sophomores CG Kobe Johnson and CG Seth Wilson. All a little different in some ways, but all a little nasty in defensive approach and love to make opponents uncomfortable. This is a must for Huggins to play his preferred style because it will allow the team to not be overly concerned about foul trouble on a nightly basis.....something that hurt defensive efforts in recent years. We have the two big bodies down low to play a traditional Center in Jimmy Bell and Mohamed Wague....and a 4/5 option in returning Sophomore James Okonkwo who has more shooting touch and knack for blocking shots. At forwards, we have the mentioned Texas transfer Tre Mitchell, returning Senior (via Washington) Emmitt Matthews Jr., and Freshman Josiah Harris has shown he is ready to roll this season. I expect all 11 of these guys to get minutes every night, and there is enough difference in them it allows all kinds of lineup configurations. I expect to see a decent amount of three guard lineups during a game which is something Huggins has only warmed up to in recent years, but I also expect to see some very big/long lineups on the floor which is more traditional Huggins.

Also, expect Manhattan transfer 6'5" PG Jose Perez (22-23 MAAC Preseason POY) to be eligible by mid December (when semester ends) which could add another dynamic/option to the lineups. If there is a missing piece to this team, it is that absolute perimeter alpha dog that you can give the ball to late in the game and tell him to do what you do to get a bucket....and know that he will come through. WVU had that with guys like Jevon Carter and Deuce McBride, but do not see that guy on this roster on the perimeter.

Should know if they are legit Big12 contenders when they go to Oregon in a little over a week (11/24) to play in the Phil Knight Legacy Tournament. Start with Purdue, and if we get that win will likely play Gonzaga. However it plays out, should get 2-3 games of solid competition to evaluate WVU with a tournament field of Duke, Oregon State, Florida, Xavier, Gonzaga, WVU, Portland State and Purdue.

[dubc47834]

Louisville lost to Bellarmine. There's a sentence I never expected to write. Kenny Payne honeymoon is over quickly.

AT HOME!!!

[Boston Red]

AT HOME!!!

Well, any loss to Bellarmine was going to be at home since Bellarmine's home court is Freedom Hall! Losing to Wright State isn't much better.

[Assembly Hall]

Well, any loss to Bellarmine was going to be at home since Bellarmine's home court is Freedom Hall! Losing to Wright State isn't much better.

Maybe you guys can handle Appy St.?

[Boston Red]

Maybe you guys can handle Appy St.?

I haven't really been a Louisville basketball fan since Denny Crum was ousted in favor of Rick Pitino. I like Kenny Payne well enough given that he's a Crum guy, but they're definitely not my guys in basketball anymore.

My guys play your guys Friday night. Should be a good one!

[Assembly Hall]

I haven't really been a Louisville basketball fan since Denny Crum was ousted in favor of Rick Pitino. I like Kenny Payne well enough given that he's a Crum guy, but they're definitely not my guys in basketball anymore.

My guys play your guys Friday night. Should be a good one!

I see.

Yep, should be a good one. Go Hoosiers!

[dubc47834]

Well, any loss to Bellarmine was going to be at home since Bellarmine's home court is Freedom Hall! Losing to Wright State isn't much better.

LOL...true...I didn't know that!

[Boston Red]

Man, when I watched Milt Wagner cooly drop two FTs to clinch Louisville's national title game win over Dook, I was definitely NOT thinking: "I bet this guy has a stud son someday who plays for Memphis State and a stud grandson someday who plays for Kentucky."

[Sea Ray]

Ouch again.

My team lost to Colorado. Not good. I'm waiting for the UT basketball bubble to burst. Basketball was just keeping things going while the football team got back but it's always been a football school. Let's see what Rick Barnes can do with this group

[Assembly Hall]

My team lost to Colorado. Not good. I'm waiting for the UT basketball bubble to burst. Basketball was just keeping things going while the football team got back but it's always been a football school. Let's see what Rick Barnes can do with this group

Nope, not off to a good start.

[Sea Ray]

Nope, not off to a good start.

No worries...they can get better vs Florida Gulf Coast on Wednesday :D

[Assembly Hall]

No worries...they can get better vs Florida Gulf Coast on Wednesday :D

Hopefully.


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[Boston Red]

Louisville falls to 0-3 with an average margin of loss of one point. That's hard to do!

[Boston Red]

Colgate pounds Syracuse in the Dome. Past time for Boeheim to hang it up.

[Danny Serafini]

So has anyone noticed the Pac 12/SWAC Legacy Series? It was about introducing Pac 12 students to HBCU culture and also throwing SWAC schools a bone by having Pac 12 schools host 3 games and SWAC schools host 3. The SWAC teams just finished sweeping the Pac 12 schools in their home games :eek:

[Assembly Hall]

So has anyone noticed the Pac 12/SWAC Legacy Series? It was about introducing Pac 12 students to HBCU culture and also throwing SWAC schools a bone by having Pac 12 schools host 3 games and SWAC schools host 3. The SWAC teams just finished sweeping the Pac 12 schools in their home games :eek:

I did not realize they had a series going. But I did notice quite a few PAC 12 schools getting beat.

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Louisville falls to 0-3 with an average margin of loss of one point. That's hard to do!

Yum!

[Boston Red]

Wasn't expecting NKU to murder UC. Like it, but didn't expect it.

[texasdave]

Wasn't expecting NKU to murder UC. Like it, but didn't expect it.

NKU held the Bearcats to 11 points in the second half. And, somewhere, John Brannen is smiling.

[Assembly Hall]

NKU held the Bearcats to 11 points in the second half. And, somewhere, John Brannen is smiling.

I see former Hoosier, Rob Phinisee, didn't help much in his 26 minutes played. I was hoping he would show signs of life with the Bearcats.

[texasdave]

University of Houston is crushing folks, winning their first four contests by an average margin of 83-46. They will face their first true test on Sunday when they travel up to Corvallis, Oregon to take on the Ducks.

[westofyou]

University of Houston is crushing folks, winning their first four contests by an average margin of 83-46. They will face their first true test on Sunday when they travel up to Corvallis, Oregon to take on the Ducks.

Beavers, Ducks are in Eugene

[texasdave]

Beavers, Ducks are in Eugene

Okay. I had the wrong city. Houston is playing the University of Oregon. So, Ducks is right, Corvallis is wrong. My bad.

[Assembly Hall]

Okay. I had the wrong city. Houston is playing the University of Oregon. So, Ducks is right, Corvallis is wrong. My bad.

These the same Ducks that got beat at home by UC-Irvine?

[westofyou]

Okay. I had the wrong city. Houston is playing the University of Oregon. So, Ducks is right, Corvallis is wrong. My bad.

OSU was always the basketball school back in the day, Ralph Miller was long standing. The Ducks were not too good IIRC, not anymore. Nice arena too

[Assembly Hall]

OSU was always the basketball school back in the day, Ralph Miller was long standing. The Ducks were not too good IIRC, not anymore. Nice arena too

Ah, I remember the Lester Conner years. The Beavers were a Top 5 school.

[Kingspoint]

Ah, I remember the Lester Conner years. The Beavers were a Top 5 school.

With Steve Johnson, 2-time NCAA leader in FG%. He used to practice left-handed and right-handed hooks 300 times each per day when he was in High School.

He was the first person to dunk the ball in Pauley Pavillion, in a 20-point blowout win, while it was still illegal. He got a T, but who cares?

Ralph Miller always choked in the playoffs. He wasn't prepared for the intensity of the other teams.

[Assembly Hall]

With Steve Johnson, 2-time NCAA leader in FG%. He used to practice left-handed and right-handed hooks 300 times each per day when he was in High School.

He was the first person to dunk the ball in Pauley Pavillion, in a 20-point blowout win, while it was still illegal. He got a T, but who cares?

Ralph Miller always choked in the playoffs. He wasn't prepared for the intensity of the other teams.

Yeah. I remember that one year when OSU was undefeated. Until the last game. Then they got upset in the tournament.

[Assembly Hall]

SEC takes a couple more losses today.


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[adkindo]

Ah, I remember the Lester Conner years. The Beavers were a Top 5 school.

last time I recall they were relevant was with Gary Payton....think they won the PAC10 his final season

[Boston Red]

last time I recall they were relevant was with Gary Payton....think they won the PAC10 his final season

And lost to Ball State in the Tournament. Ball State being the only team that gave UNLV a game in the Tournament that year.

[Boston Red]

Bobby Hurley gets the best of Juwan Howard yet again.

[westofyou]

Bobby Hurley gets the best of Juwan Howard yet again.

ASU was lights out to start the game, just the opposite for UM. A bloodbath

[RedTeamGo!]

Howard is a good recruiter, bad coach. Also an a-hole

[Sea Ray]

Howard is a good recruiter, bad coach. Also an a-hole

A lot of former NBA players have a similar resume. Penny Hardaway and Jerry Stackhouse to name a couple although I wouldn't go so far as to apply your last sentence to them

[westofyou]

Howard is a good recruiter, bad coach. Also an a-hole

He's my team's coach and a Michigan Man. That's all I see

[Assembly Hall]

He's my team's coach and a Michigan Man. That's all I see

Where do you project Michigan to finish in the B1G?

[westofyou]

Where do you project Michigan to finish in the B1G?

Not sure yet, they seem really young and outside of Dickenson they don't have anyone that I see carrying the team. I can see them losing 10 games easily as they find themselves. They have been good finishers the past few years, finding their game in the winter. They seem to be missing the game changing forwards they've had recently

[Assembly Hall]

Not sure yet, they seem really young and outside of Dickenson they don't have anyone that I see carrying the team. I can see them losing 10 games easily as they find themselves. They have been good finishers the past few years, finding their game in the winter. They seem to be missing the game changing forwards they've had recently

Thanks for the take. I see a few pundits are high on them but I haven't watched them myself other than highlights.

[Boston Red]

College basketball season starts for real for me in 15 minutes. Let's go X!

[dubc47834]

College basketball season starts for real for me in 15 minutes. Let's go X!

My Hoosiers got off to a slow start. Starting to pick it up some now...GO HOOSIERS!!!

[Boston Red]

My Hoosiers got off to a slow start. Starting to pick it up some now...GO HOOSIERS!!!

Hard to believe how bad they shoot. Strong inside, though.

[dubc47834]

Hard to believe how bad they shoot. Strong inside, though.

Shooting should be better this year. It's our 1st game against some real talent and outside of Assembly Hall. It's been cupcake city early on, so I would expect some early adjusting. They picked it up later on in the first half. Plus, Xavier looks a little better than I was expecting.

[Boston Red]

This Jackson-Davis guy is absurd.

[Boston Red]

Exciting game. Pretty evenly matched other than that Jackson-Davis freak.

[Assembly Hall]

Go Hoosiers!

[dubc47834]

This Jackson-Davis guy is absurd.

Dude is an absolute stud!

[Assembly Hall]

This Jackson-Davis guy is absurd.

https://www.si.com/college/indiana/basketball/indiana-basketball-all-time-leading-scorers-list-trayce-jackson-davis-continues-to-move-up?fbclid=IwAR04cggFo2CQ__hHRUBXS5pZ3k1C1BL2vt8osa rV8l7SbR6VZFwXX8MIVtc

[Boston Red]

Fun week in college basketball. We should know a lot more about who is actually good this year after this week.

[Boston Red]

We already knew that Louisville stinks, but they confirmed again today. At least they get to go sit in the beach now!

[Assembly Hall]

We already knew that Louisville stinks, but they confirmed again today. At least they get to go sit in the beach now!

Louisville get 10 wins this year?

[cumberlandreds]

We already knew that Louisville stinks, but they confirmed again today. At least they get to go sit in the beach now!

You would have thought Arkansas were the Doctors of Dunk by that game.

[Boston Red]

Louisville get 10 wins this year?

Don't see how.

[Boston Red]

It appears that UC and Ohio State have gone a quarter of the way around the world in order to play each other. And loser gets Louisville. Some local flavor in Maui.

[Kingspoint]

https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/rankings/

[texasdave]

Arizona scored 61 points in the second half of the game at the Maui Invitational, and was outscored as the Bearcats put up 63.

[Assembly Hall]

https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/rankings/

The B1G looking good. The PAC 12? Not so much.

[Boston Red]

What's the worst major college basketball team in recent memory? DePaul the year they went 0 for the Big East (and then beat Cincinnati in the Big East Tournament)? Georgetown last year (also 0 for the Big East)? Can Louisville this year top the awfulness of those teams? I think it's possible.

[WVRed]

What's the worst major college basketball team in recent memory? DePaul the year they went 0 for the Big East (and then beat Cincinnati in the Big East Tournament)? Georgetown last year (also 0 for the Big East)? Can Louisville this year top the awfulness of those teams? I think it's possible.

Does Kenny Payne get a second chance? He’s already lost a legacy recruit to the in state rival. I was hoping he would make the rivalry interesting again but I think he would have been better off starting somewhere smaller first.

[Assembly Hall]

What's the worst major college basketball team in recent memory? DePaul the year they went 0 for the Big East (and then beat Cincinnati in the Big East Tournament)? Georgetown last year (also 0 for the Big East)? Can Louisville this year top the awfulness of those teams? I think it's possible.

My '08-'09 Hoosiers went 1-17 in the B1G. 6-25 OA.

[Assembly Hall]

Does Kenny Payne get a second chance? He’s already lost a legacy recruit to the in state rival. I was hoping he would make the rivalry interesting again but I think he would have been better off starting somewhere smaller first.

I don't know how this will end for Kenny but I agree with ya. He should have started off with a "lessor" gig.

[Kingspoint]

The B1G looking good. The PAC 12? Not so much.

Rootin' for the Beavs...make the tournament, and go from there.

[Assembly Hall]

Arizona scored 61 points in the second half of the game at the Maui Invitational, and was outscored as the Bearcats put up 63.

Evidently 'Zona doesn't play defense but the Bucknuts do?

[Sea Ray]

Tennessee plays Butler tonight at "Atlantis". Anyone know anything about Butler this year? Are they good? I know Bostonred follows the Big East. Just wonderin'

[Boston Red]

They're supposed to be not good. But Thad Matta is their coach, so they'll be well coached.

[Sea Ray]

It's early but so far Tenn has very little inside game. It's all about the shooting, particularly 3 pointers. If it's a cold night they can lose to anyone

[Assembly Hall]

Tennessee plays Butler tonight at "Atlantis". Anyone know anything about Butler this year? Are they good? I know Bostonred follows the Big East. Just wonderin'

Most projections have the Bulldogs at the bottom of the Big East just ahead of DePaul and Georgetown. Butler did play Penn St. tough. The Lions, to some, will be the "surprise" team out of the B1G. On a few of the ratings services I have looked at have the 'Dawgs rated somewhere are #70 in the country. On a neutral court I expect the Vols to have an easy time of it. But then again, UT got beat by Colorado.

[Revering4Blue]

Most projections have the Bulldogs at the bottom of the Big East just ahead of DePaul and Georgetown. Butler did play Penn St. tough. The Lions, to some, will be the "surprise" team out of the B1G. On a few of the ratings services I have looked at have the 'Dawgs rated somewhere are #70 in the country. On a neutral court I expect the Vols to have an easy time of it. But then again, UT got beat by Colorado.

Colorado then beat 24th ranked Texas A&M by 28 on a neutral court. The loss by UT doesn’t look so bad now. And if I’m not mistaken, UT lost a player to injury fairly early in the Colorado game.


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[Boston Red]

It's borderline criminal what Georgetown's administration has allowed to happen to its basketball program. Patrick Ewing still being employed sends a clear message they just don't care. Georgetown is now Fordham.

[Boston Red]

Tennessee favored over Kansas. Interesting.

[Sea Ray]

Tennessee favored over Kansas. Interesting.

Don't get that

[adkindo]

Tennessee favored over Kansas. Interesting.

both have shown significant weaknesses recently....it took OT for Tennessee to beat a bad USC team and Kanas has looked mediocre since the Duke game. Kansas is currently ranked too high based on their play this season.

[Assembly Hall]

both have shown significant weaknesses recently....it took OT for Tennessee to beat a bad USC team and Kanas has looked mediocre since the Duke game. Kansas is currently ranked too high based on their play this season.

I am starting to wonder how good Duke is.

[Assembly Hall]

Tennessee favored over Kansas. Interesting.

Are we talking 1977?

[Kingspoint]

Tennessee favored over Kansas. Interesting.

Tennessee about to win.

[Kingspoint]

I am starting to wonder how good Duke is.

From the Phil Knight Invitational in Portland...

Oregon State almost beat North Carolina.

North Carolina just lost to Iowa State after beating University of Portland by only 8 points.

University of Portland beat Villanova

Xavier almost knocked off Duke.

[dubc47834]

From the Phil Knight Invitational in Portland...

Oregon State almost beat North Carolina.

North Carolina just lost to Iowa State after beating University of Portland by only 8 points.

University of Portland beat Villanova

Xavier almost knocked off Duke.

IU just beat Xavier...at Xavier

[Sea Ray]

Tennessee about to win.

The Vols won this tournament despite arguably their best player, Josiah Jordan James


Kansas’ 50 points today were the fewest it has scored since November 18, 2014 against No. 1 Kentucky, when the Jayhawks scored just 40. It’s also their fewest points per possession (0.75 PPP) since that Kentucky game (0.66 PPP), according to @kenpomeroy’s database.

https://twitter.com/jeffborzello/status/1596336221776760833?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5 Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1596336221776760833%7Ctwgr% 5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=

[Sea Ray]

The Volunteers are the Kings of Atlantis after easily defeating the Jayhawks.
Give the Volunteers the same Trident that Aquaman uses.

18981

[adkindo]

I did not post anything a couple nights ago when Purdue beat WVU, but since Purdue beat Gonzaga last night....check that, crushed Gonzaga, thought I would share some thoughts. Purdue jumped out to something like 10-0 on WVU and pretty much maintained a 6-12 point lead all night. WVU closed it to 4 a few times, but never could get over the hump. It was a 4 point game with about 5 minutes remaining, then Purdue tacked on some late game points from the free throw line to win by 12. The strange thing was after the game was there was not really anything different I thought WVU should have did outside foul a little less and make a few more shots. I thought the refs were a little too tight with the whistle, but that is basically any WVU basketball game for me on a day that ends in Y. Purdue simply shot higher than their norm from the field, especially from 3.....and it had nothing to do with poor WVU defense.....WVU played solid defense. Actually, our defense and turning them over kept us in the game. WVU, especially with their starting Center kept Edey in check as he did most of his damage from the free throw line.....we had over half the roster in foul trouble throughout the game. Purdue was 24-28 from the free throw line, while WVU was 11-17....and Purdue shot over 47% from 3. The point is that it was just their night, and the game literally had no impact on my overall thoughts on WVU's ability. Basically, if Purdue shoots their norm or like they did against Gonzaga (16-22 from the line and 38.5% from 3), WVU likely wins the game. Also, if WVU played Gonzaga like they have in the tournament against Purdue and Portland State, I think WVU beats Gonzaga.

None of this is to take away from Purdue....they are a really solid team. I think Purdue will beat Duke to win the tournament. Edey will be hard to handle for any team that can not match him down low with a big body to keep him off his spots. Jimmy Bell Jr. (WVU) is 6'10" and 285 lbs....and was able to make Edey uncomfortable.....our smaller backup centers that are more athletic struggled more because once Edey gets to his spot, he is nearly automatic. Edey is good at free throws and is able to pass out of a double team which makes him a problem for most teams. WVU is not a good shooting team, but shot 41.3% from the field and 22.7% from 3.....to compare they shoot over 50% from the field and over 35% from 3 on the season. I think if WVU and Purdue played again, WVU would have a very realistic chance to come out of the other side because they likely would shoot better and Purdue likely would not shoot as high percentages as they did that night.

[Assembly Hall]

IU just beat Xavier...at Xavier

We shall see how our Hoosiers stack up very shortly. North Carolina at home, Arizona on a neutral floor, and at Kansas.

[Sea Ray]

Gonzaga has been dominated in both their losses this season.

[Assembly Hall]

Gonzaga has been dominated in both their losses this season.

I expect Gonzaga to get a few more losses before their conference season starts.

[adkindo]

I expect Gonzaga to get a few more losses before their conference season starts.

Their next two games will be tough....Xavier and Baylor.

[Assembly Hall]

If Purdue beats Duke, are the Boilers the new #1?

[Boston Red]

Probably should be, but I think they'll stick with normal procedure and go with Houston.

[adkindo]

If Purdue beats Duke, are the Boilers the new #1?

did not beat them.....waxed them like they did to Gonzaga. WVU was their toughest matchup in the entire tournament. Purdue has a really solid roster with some interesting pieces that do not get much notice because all of the media attention goes to Edey.....but they are more than Edey.

[adkindo]

WVU enters the game against UF as 1.5 point underdogs.....

WVU - 84
UF - 55

Next up @ Xavier....should be a good challenge. Xavier has 3 losses...by 2 points to #12 Indiana, 7 points to #8 Duke and 4 points to #6 Gonzaga.

[Boston Red]

Huggins does not fare well against Xavier. I expect that to continue next weekend in Cintas Center.

[Sea Ray]

SEC/ACC Challenge announced:

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10056974-accsec-challenges-revealed-for-college-basketball-to-replace-accbig-ten-challenge

Starting next year

[Sea Ray]

IU is now in the top 10

https://apnews.com/hub/ap-top-25-college-basketball-poll

Vols are 13th. Don't know why Kansas is still ranked higher but whatever

[WVRed]

WVU enters the game against UF as 1.5 point underdogs.....

WVU - 84
UF - 55

Next up @ Xavier....should be a good challenge. Xavier has 3 losses...by 2 points to #12 Indiana, 7 points to #8 Duke and 4 points to #6 Gonzaga.

Florida is in a rebuild with a new coach. Curious to see how Golden does but that doesn’t look too promising.

[Rojo Rijo]

Florida is in a rebuild with a new coach. Curious to see how Golden does but that doesn’t look too promising.

A lot of our guys dont fit the scheme right now. Last night is what will typically happen against tougher teams with bigger guards. Bonham and Lofton were outmatched. WV ran us off the 3Pt line and didnt give Castleton the respect of double teams and it worked very well for them. I watched almost all of that game and it was tough to think even with improvement that Florida will be a tournament team. Defense has been nearly non-existent for us so far. We lost a home game to FAU and we were down 17 at the half to a historically bad FSU team (who is now 1-7). If we're lucky we'll go 9-9 in conference play.

Its a tough year being a Gator fan with transition years in both Football and Basketball but id much rather be where we are now than still with a football coach who didnt put any effort into recruiting or a basketball coach who couldnt create an offensive set if his life depended on it.

[Assembly Hall]

SEC/ACC Challenge announced:

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10056974-accsec-challenges-revealed-for-college-basketball-to-replace-accbig-ten-challenge

Starting next year

UK better get used to playing Duke or North Carolina every year.

[cumberlandreds]

UK better get used to playing Duke or North Carolina every year.

Duke will replace Kansas. Its Kansas nearly every year in the SEC Big 12 challenge. Its a good change.

[Assembly Hall]

Duke will replace Kansas. Its Kansas nearly every year in the SEC Big 12 challenge. Its a good change.

Personally, I think the Big 12 is a better conference than the ACC. Top to bottom.

[cumberlandreds]

Personally, I think the Big 12 is a better conference than the ACC. Top to bottom.

Probably is. But UK was stuck playing Kansas nearly every year. So it didn't really matter. It will be the same in the ACC. It will either be Duke or UNC. They do play UNC semi regularly in the CBS tournament. So they may not get them much in this challenge match.

[Sea Ray]

Probably is. But UK was stuck playing Kansas nearly every year. So it didn't really matter. It will be the same in the ACC. It will either be Duke or UNC. They do play UNC semi regularly in the CBS tournament. So they may not get them much in this challenge match.

Actually it's Tennessee who's drawn Kansas more often than not. The Vols have played them 4 out of the last 5 yrs

https://utsports.com/sports/mens-basketball/opponent-history/university-of-kansas/123

This year the Vols get Texas who's currently ranked #2 in the country. Kentucky does get Kansas in late January

[cumberlandreds]

Actually it's Tennessee who's drawn Kansas more often than not. The Vols have played them 4 out of the last 5 yrs

https://utsports.com/sports/mens-basketball/opponent-history/university-of-kansas/123

This year the Vols get Texas who's currently ranked #2 in the country. Kentucky does get Kansas in late January

UK has played Kansas 4 times. This will be the 5th this season. Also have played once, WVY, Texas Tech and Baylor. They also are on a rotation with Kansas in the Champions Classic.

http://www.bigbluehistory.net/bb/Statistics/gamesecbig12challenge.html

[adkindo]

Florida is in a rebuild with a new coach. Curious to see how Golden does but that doesn’t look too promising.

Rebuild? That is so 2020...LOL. Six of WVU's first Seven were not on the roster last season. In the era of the portal, I am not sure there is much building or rebuilding that will take place.....almost new team each season at many places. They beat us 2 seasons ago when WVU was #11 in the country and Castleton hung 21 points on us.....he had 3 on Sunday.

Still my post was not so much bragging about beating FL, it was more to point out that WVU is still not getting the respect it should based on the point spread at tip and the final score.

[adkindo]

Huggins does not fare well against Xavier. I expect that to continue next weekend in Cintas Center.

https://media.tenor.com/hKT14dW2ZF0AAAAM/mila-stauffer-whatever.gif

[adkindo]

UK has played Kansas 4 times. This will be the 5th this season. Also have played once, WVY, Texas Tech and Baylor. They also are on a rotation with Kansas in the Champions Classic.

http://www.bigbluehistory.net/bb/Statistics/gamesecbig12challenge.html

they missed the boat this year.....it was right there for them with WVU/UK.....the ole HOF Coach and returning National POY could have settled some unfinished business, or at least they could have pushed that angle....

[Boston Red]

https://media.tenor.com/hKT14dW2ZF0AAAAM/mila-stauffer-whatever.gif

Facts is facts.

[Boston Red]

I did not see Marquette squashing Baylor in the Big East/Big XII opener coming.

[adkindo]

Facts is facts.

Huggins? Huggins has been the coach at WVU for a single game against Xavier.....2008 Sweet 16 when an unranked WVU lost to #12 Xavier in OT. I should thank Xavier, because that was great experience as much of that roster was very young and ended up taking WVU to the Final 4 in 2010. Btw, how many Final Fours has Xavier reached? ;)

I do not know his record when he was the coach of that other metro college in southern Ohio, nor do I care because it lacks relevance. This is not 2008, and if WVU plays like it has the first 7 games of the season, WVU will have won the game and literally broken the spirit of Xavier when the final horn sounds. That UF team that WVU curb stomped by 29 points literally had the lead on Xavier during the 2nd half...... :duel:

[Boston Red]

Huggs will finish his career 8-11 against Xavier. Should be fun!

[Boston Red]

Syracuse stinks. I enjoy that, because Boeheim is the worst.

[adkindo]

Syracuse stinks. I enjoy that, because Boeheim is the worst.

speaking of Boeheim.....Huggins passed Calhoun in career wins last week and now only behind Boeheim and K.

[Assembly Hall]

Syracuse stinks. I enjoy that, because Boeheim is the worst.

I don't know about the worst but gee I remember him coaching Syracuse in my youth. I can still vaguely remember the Louie/Bouie vs. Ernie/Bernie game.

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speaking of Boeheim.....Huggins passed Calhoun in career wins last week and now only behind Boeheim and K.

And how many NCAA titles has Huggins won?

[WVRed]

Rebuild? That is so 2020...LOL. Six of WVU's first Seven were not on the roster last season. In the era of the portal, I am not sure there is much building or rebuilding that will take place.....almost new team each season at many places. They beat us 2 seasons ago when WVU was #11 in the country and Castleton hung 21 points on us.....he had 3 on Sunday.

Still my post was not so much bragging about beating FL, it was more to point out that WVU is still not getting the respect it should based on the point spread at tip and the final score.

Read Rojo-Rijos post earlier. He’s a Florida fan and even admitted that Florida has a lot of players who don’t mesh with Goldens system. In that sense, yes, it’s a rebuild.

Thoughts on Grant McCasland replacing Huggins when he retires?

[Boston Red]

Apparently a bit of a holiday hangover for Purdue struggling with a terrible Florida State team.

[dubc47834]

A dominating performance by the Hoosiers last night. The defense made Carolina look very mediocre. That defense also kept the game closer than it really was because of all the fouls.

[Sea Ray]

A dominating performance by the Hoosiers last night. The defense made Carolina look very mediocre. That defense also kept the game closer than it really was because of all the fouls.

The Hoosiers sure did look great and it was a fun game if you're a Hoosier fan. I will caution you this as a Tenn fan...Last year we beat UNC handily in late November but by March the tables had turned. My Volunteers couldn't make it past the first week of the tournament while the Tarheels made it all the way to the final vs Kansas. Things change. May your Hoosiers weather the season better

[Assembly Hall]

The Hoosiers sure did look great and it was a fun game if you're a Hoosier fan. I will caution you this as a Tenn fan...Last year we beat UNC handily in late November but by March the tables had turned. My Volunteers couldn't make it past the first week of the tournament while the Tarheels made it all the way to the final vs Kansas. Things change. May your Hoosiers weather the season better

North Carolina better learn how to shoot from the field or they are going nowhere this year.

[dubc47834]

The Hoosiers sure did look great and it was a fun game if you're a Hoosier fan. I will caution you this as a Tenn fan...Last year we beat UNC handily in late November but by March the tables had turned. My Volunteers couldn't make it past the first week of the tournament while the Tarheels made it all the way to the final vs Kansas. Things change. May your Hoosiers weather the season better

As a Hoosier fan, we have gotten used to being cautiously optimistic. We have had numerous teams over the years that should do better than they have in the tourney, but choked.

[Boston Red]

North Carolina may just be exactly what they were before they caught fire in March last year.

And it's also possible they'll be exactly that through February again and catch fire once again in March.

[Sea Ray]

As a Hoosier fan, we have gotten used to being cautiously optimistic. We have had numerous teams over the years that should do better than they have in the tourney, but choked.

I fully understand...:(

[Assembly Hall]

North Carolina may just be exactly what they were before they caught fire in March last year.

And it's also possible they'll be exactly that through February again and catch fire once again in March.

That probably would have been a 30 point win for the Hoosiers had it not been for the FT discrepancy. That being said, the Tar Heels did come to play and hung around. How the rest of the season unfolds for them remains to be seen but they got some issues right now. If Hubert can't get them straightened out I imagine UNC fans will be calling for his head...again.

[Revering4Blue]

North Carolina better learn how to shoot from the field or they are going nowhere this year.

Jalen Washington should be of wondrous help in that regard for the Heels once he’s healthy.


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[Boston Red]

Hope Huggs enjoyed his trip to Cincy.

[adkindo]

Hope Huggs enjoyed his trip to Cincy.

I come in shame....embarrassed of my earlier comments. The 2nd half was the worst WVU has played all season...and to be clear, Xavier and that building had an impact on that poor play. Huggins just had some terrible lineups out there for too long, and left players on the bench far too long.....maybe there is something about that building that causes him to fold. He coaches in a similar fashion every time we visit Allen Fieldhouse. Xavier has similar talent to WVU (although I lean toward WVU on a neutral court), they have a very good coach, and they have heart. They will be a tough out most nights just because they play hard and keep coming.

I think it could be good for WVU long run...maybe....because they played in front of a hostile crowd for the first time all season....but more importantly I think they expected Xavier to lay down once they built up a double digit lead like Florida and others have all season. Clearly Xavier never considered laying down.

[Boston Red]

It was a very good game, and WV is tough as heck. Luckily, Sean Miller is back and pretty tough at Xavier as well.

[texasdave]

Over/under on Louisville Cardinals wins this season - 3.5. I never thought I would see that happen.

[Boston Red]

Under. I have them at 3. FAMU, Lipscomb and one surprise in there somewhere. It could easily be 1 or 2, though. 4 seems high.

[Sea Ray]

Louisville, Cal fall to 0-7, simultaneously post worst starts in major conference history


Entering this year, no team from the ACC, Big East, Big Ten, Big 12, Pac-12, or SEC had ever started 0-7 in a season.

https://sports.yahoo.com/louisville-cal-fall-to-0-7-simultaneously-post-worst-starts-in-major-conference-history-034539367.html

[Sea Ray]

My Vols are back in the top 10

https://www.on3.com/teams/tennessee-volunteers/news/tennessee-vols-basketball-ranking-ap-top-25-net-ken-pom/

[adkindo]

It was a very good game, and WV is tough as heck. Luckily, Sean Miller is back and pretty tough at Xavier as well.

I am not a Sean Miller fan....has some of that Pitt stank on him. Still, there is no doubt he is one of the Top 20ish coaches in the country....maybe higher, just thought there are around 20 guys out there that are in that group. I personally would like to see him stick around Xavier this time and just make it his program.....have a statue outside the arena at some point. Maybe that is his plan and he will, but at his age the big offers will come if he wins at a high level at Xavier. Me personally, I would rather be at a place like Xavier or any good non-blue blood than have to play the one and done game he was forced to play at Arizona.

[Assembly Hall]

#1 Houston squanders a 14 pt. 2nd half lead and gets beat by 'Bama at home. Looks like Virginia will be the new #1.

[Sea Ray]

#1 Houston squanders a 14 pt. 2nd half lead and gets beat by 'Bama at home. Looks like Virginia will be the new #1.

SEC!

[Assembly Hall]

SEC!

3rd best conference in the land!

[Sea Ray]

3rd best conference in the land!

You might be right. We'll see. What I do know is that my Volunteers just beat a nationally ranked Big Ten team in Brooklyn

[Assembly Hall]

You might be right. We'll see. What I do know is that my Volunteers just beat a nationally ranked Big Ten team in Brooklyn

Good win for the Vols. Now I want to see them beat Arizona.

[Sea Ray]

Good win for the Vols. Now I want to see them beat Arizona.

They've got a lot of guys injured right now. They limped through yesterday. Hopefully they'll be healthier by Saturday. They've already got wins over two highly ranked teams on somewhat neutral courts so that's a good start.

[Assembly Hall]

Chris Beard in trouble:

https://www.on3.com/college/texas-longhorns/news/texas-basketball-coach-chris-beard-arrested-monday-morning-in-austin-tx/

[Sea Ray]

Chris Beard in trouble:

https://www.on3.com/college/texas-longhorns/news/texas-basketball-coach-chris-beard-arrested-monday-morning-in-austin-tx/

That doesn't sound good. I figured it was just another DUI or something but "preventing someone from breathing"? That sounds like attempted murder to me

[Assembly Hall]

That doesn't sound good. I figured it was just another DUI or something but "preventing someone from breathing"? That sounds like attempted murder to me

Beard may have just pissed away millions.

[Sea Ray]

Tennessee shot 28.8% from the field and 52.4% from the foul line tonight against Maryland and still won.

Over the last 5 seasons, Division I teams that shoot under 30% from the field and under 55% from the line are now 5-162 (.030).

https://twitter.com/JaredBerson/status/1602089481544372226?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5 Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1602089481544372226%7Ctwgr% 5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=

[UKFlounder]

And freedom for years


Beard may have just pissed away millions.

[Sea Ray]

Texas never should have fired Rick Barnes. They're still paying the price for that

[RedTeamGo!]

Texas never should have fired Rick Barnes. They're still paying the price for that

They were tired of getting generational talent and not making any noise in the tourney

[Sea Ray]

They were tired of getting generational talent and not making any noise in the tourney

How'd that work out for them?

[Revering4Blue]

They were tired of getting generational talent and not making any noise in the tourney

Three NCAA tourney wins in seven years - Barnes’s last seven seasons as Longhorns coach = indefensible underachievement, no getting around it. And the argument presented by some that Texas is a Football first school doesn’t fly. It is clearly a Top 20 hoops job.

Having said that, Sea Ray has a valid point. If you fire a proven winner of a coach to gamble on the next up-and-comer - Shaka Smart, in this case - you’d best get it right.


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[Boston Red]

And now Shaka is doing well at Marquette. Maybe Texas is the problem.

[Boston Red]

If you scroll through all the Division I standings on ESPN.com, you'll only find two teams that have yet to win: Louisville and Cal.

[Assembly Hall]

And now Shaka is doing well at Marquette. Maybe Texas is the problem.

I think Shaka bit off more than he could chew when he took the Texas job. And I expect him to flourish at Marquette.

[RedTeamGo!]

How'd that work out for them?

Well, they are 7-1 and ranked 7th in country. Beard is a really good coach. Sounds like he is about to be out of a job, but he’s a good bball coach.

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Three NCAA tourney wins in seven years - Barnes’s last seven seasons as Longhorns coach = indefensible underachievement, no getting around it. And the argument presented by some that Texas is a Football first school doesn’t fly. It is clearly a Top 20 hoops job.

Having said that, Sea Ray has a valid point. If you fire a proven winner of a coach to gamble on the next up-and-comer - Shaka Smart, in this case - you’d best get it right.


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Just to be clear: didn’t say SR didn’t have a valid point, but that is why they moved on from Barnes. When you can’t win with Kevin Durant something is wrong.

[Sea Ray]

Well, they are 7-1 and ranked 7th in country. Beard is a really good coach. Sounds like he is about to be out of a job, but he’s a good bball coach.

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Just to be clear: didn’t say SR didn’t have a valid point, but that is why they moved on from Barnes. When you can’t win with Kevin Durant something is wrong.

He's not a very good coach if he commits felonies and can't be on the sideline. As for Kevin Durant, I'm not an NBA guy but isn't it true that he couldn't win championships 'till he joined a championship team, Steph Curry & Golden State?

[RedTeamGo!]

He's not a very good coach if he commits felonies and can't be on the sideline. As for Kevin Durant, I'm not an NBA guy but isn't it true that he couldn't win championships 'till he joined a championship team, Steph Curry & Golden State?

I’m not even referring to winning it all with durant. IIRC Barnes didn’t even make it out of the opening weekend with him.

As for Beard. Being a bad person = bad coach? Interesting take, I bet you’re very consistent with that one.

[Boston Red]

Presumably this is his wife. What an awful situation for her. He beats her and then she loses her income.

Maybe they can fire him with cause but let the wife have her half of the severance.

I guess he's not married, so nevermind. He just gets fired.

[Sea Ray]

I’m not even referring to winning it all with durant. IIRC Barnes didn’t even make it out of the opening weekend with him.

As for Beard. Being a bad person = bad coach? Interesting take, I bet you’re very consistent with that one.

You're missing my point on Beard. My point is, regardless of how good a coach you are, you're not worth a darn if you aren't allowed to be on the sideline. An analogy would be for players...regardless of how talented you are, you aren't worth a darn if you're injured or suspended all the time. If (big if) Beard is found guilty of a felony, it doesn't matter what kind of coach he is. He'll be fired

Your point with Barnes is not wrong. His teams have not fared well in the tournament. No question about that

[Sea Ray]

Tennessee in a dogfight in the desert...tied at halftime vs Arizona

[adkindo]

WVU should finally get ranked next week......overdue in my bias opinion. #9 in the NET, #12 in Torvik, slipped to #23 in Kenpom for some reason, was #16 on Monday. Still have no real feeling for how they will do in Big12 play....fairly confident they can go .500 at a minimum in conference play which would get them into the NCAA tournament, but hoping they can do much better or even contend in the Big12.

Also been watching the local guys at UCF, and they are very solid this year. Have three losses on the year, but only one was a bad loss which was a 2OT loss in the opener to UNC Ashville. The other 2 losses was by 2 points each to a very solid Miami and Mizzou (Mizzou is currently beating #16 Illinois by 35 points with 12 minutes left in the game). Mizzou hit a 35 foot prayer at the buzzer to beat UCF. So all three losses are by a combined 7 points, and they have a few decent wins including FSU, OK State and Ole Miss. They may be the 3rd best team in the AAC behind Houston and Memphis which would likely get them into the NCAA tournament. They have a nice Freshman....Taylor Hendricks....if you have not heard about him, you will soon!

[Sea Ray]

What's up with this?

Central Michigan 63
Michigan 61

[Assembly Hall]

What's up with this?

Central Michigan 63
Michigan 61

Central Michigan has struggled with injuries throughout its non-conference schedule and played its eighth game without preseason All-Mid-American Conference point guard Kevin Miller. The victory was the team's first in seven games against a Division I opponent without its leading scorer.

https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/gametracker/recap/NCAAB_20221229_CMICH@MICH/

[westofyou]

Central Michigan has struggled with injuries throughout its non-conference schedule and played its eighth game without preseason All-Mid-American Conference point guard Kevin Miller. The victory was the team's first in seven games against a Division I opponent without its leading scorer.

https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/gametracker/recap/NCAAB_20221229_CMICH@MICH/

Michigan is struggling to find a groove. They have no senior starters, two juniors and both the guard and forward positions have been choppy. They will probably be around .500 the way they are going, sloppy defense and bad shooting can't push them above that.

Losing to CMU is a big no-no to the fanbase, they are expected to win.

[Assembly Hall]

Michigan is struggling to find a groove. They have no senior starters, two juniors and both the guard and forward positions have been choppy. They will probably be around .500 the way they are going, sloppy defense and bad shooting can't push them above that.

Losing to CMU is a big no-no to the fanbase, they are expected to win.

I am starting to wonder if Howard is the man.

[westofyou]

I am starting to wonder if Howard is the man.

It's a valid concern in some manners. The man is real good with with big men but he seems to have have issues with solidifying an approach to the basket without Dickenson. I think losing three freshman off last years team (Collins, Houston and the French kid) really hurt the development of the program. He's not a good enough coach to play the one and done year and if they keep importing senior point guards through the transfer portal each year then they never will find the rhythm

[Boston Red]

Xavier over UConn was a lot of fun.

[Sea Ray]

Xavier over UConn was a lot of fun.

Wow. 10 pt win. That's big :thumbup:

[Boston Red]

Patrick Ewing has to be fired tomorrow, and Ronny Thompson should never be allowed on Georgetown's campus again (never should have been employed there in the first place). Georgetown has to sever ties with the Thompson era or join the Patriot League. One of those two things.

Losing by 29 to a bad Butler team at home has to be the last of many, many straws. Sad situation.

[westofyou]

It's a valid concern in some manners. The man is real good with with big men but he seems to have have issues with solidifying an approach to the basket without Dickenson. I think losing three freshman off last years team (Collins, Houston and the French kid) really hurt the development of the program. He's not a good enough coach to play the one and done year and if they keep importing senior point guards through the transfer portal each year then they never will find the rhythm

UM replied to Maryland about their recent loss, it was not good for Maryland. Dickenson has 32, 12 rebounds. This team will rock when he does, and if they drain outside shots early like today they will be fun to watch.

Conference play in the B10 is brutal, it's a great thing to follow in the winter, it's dark out and there are lots of old school basketball games, not a lot of stars up and down the rosters but a few stars and a lot of gym rats. I like that sort of basketball, not always about the stars

[Assembly Hall]

Patrick Ewing has to be fired tomorrow, and Ronny Thompson should never be allowed on Georgetown's campus again (never should have been employed there in the first place). Georgetown has to sever ties with the Thompson era or join the Patriot League. One of those two things.

Losing by 29 to a bad Butler team at home has to be the last of many, many straws. Sad situation.

Georgetown will get no sympathy from me.

[Boston Red]

It's not exactly sympathy for Georgetown as it's all self-inflicted. I do feel sorry for fans and alumni. At least some of them. It's not their fault Georgetown's administration apparently let the Thompson family have incriminating photos of them.

[Boston Red]

New #1 next week

[Assembly Hall]

New #1 next week

Rutgers loves playing those teams from Indiana.

[Sea Ray]

At least Rutgers is earning their keep on the hardcourt

[Assembly Hall]

At least Rutgers is earning their keep on the hardcourt

Right now I honestly have to say that Rutgers is my favorite to win the B1G. And I can't believe I just said that.

[Boston Red]

Feels like tonight is the true beginning of the Scheyer era at Duke.

[Assembly Hall]

Feels like tonight is the true beginning of the Scheyer era at Duke.

NC State likes this post.

[Rojo Rijo]

This is the earliest i've folded on a college hoops season in a long time. Florida fell to 7-7 (0-2) last night at home against Texas A&M. Hard to expect a lot from Golden in his first season but I did not expect to potentially be headed to our worst season record wise since the 90s.

With every passing season that incredible 2006-2008 run of 2 football and 2 basketball national championships gets more and more distant.

[WVRed]

This is the earliest i've folded on a college hoops season in a long time. Florida fell to 7-7 (0-2) last night at home against Texas A&M. Hard to expect a lot from Golden in his first season but I did not expect to potentially be headed to our worst season record wise since the 90s.

With every passing season that incredible 2006-2008 run of 2 football and 2 basketball national championships gets more and more distant.

I’ve felt the same way about Kentucky all season, even with the win on Tuesday.

[cumberlandreds]

I’ve felt the same way about Kentucky all season, even with the win on Tuesday.

Yep, 96,97 and 98 were the golden years. Three straight national championship appearances and two titles. Darn near a third one too.

[westofyou]

Yep, 96,97 and 98 were the golden years. Three straight national championship appearances and two titles. Darn near a third one too.

And since then they are 643-211

Damn shame

[cumberlandreds]

And since then they are 643-211

Damn shame

I agree a bad downturn. :D

[Assembly Hall]

Beard fired.

[Sea Ray]

Definitely a choke job tonight by Ohio State. You get the ball stolen when you just need to dribble out the clock or hit foul shots, and then all the Ohio State players stand around watching one guy vainly trying to get open instead of helping or cutting to the basket. Just pathetic.

Indiana looking good at halftime vs Iowa

[westofyou]

Indiana was up 29-8 when I was flipping around earlier. It looks like it was 83-60 after.. ouch

[dubc47834]

Indiana was up 29-8 when I was flipping around earlier. It looks like it was 83-60 after.. ouch

IU blew it. Stopped playing defense. Race going down shouldn't have that much of an effect on the defense, but it did. Was reading Facebook comments this morning, our fanbase can be a joke sometimes, and this is one of those times. People turning on Woodson already. A lot of our fans act like we are still the program we were back in the late 80's/early 90's...we arent. People need to get over it.

[Sea Ray]

My Tennessee Volunteers have picked up their game. Namely, they've started scoring. I don't think South Carolina is very good but they were undefeated at home going into that game yesterday and Tennessee pounded 'em so bad, they would have won if they hadn't put up a shot in the 2nd half. Tennessee was up 43-21 at halftime and SC ended up with 42 points for the whole game. I think the bottom half of the SEC is really bad this year.

As a fan it's fun to have top ten teams in both football and basketball

[texasdave]

No ACC team is in the Top Ten in basketball as of the lastest AP poll. The ACC used to be college basketball.

[Boston Red]

No ACC team is in the Top Ten in basketball as of the lastest AP poll. The ACC used to be college basketball.

Apparently the Big XII is now college basketball. All 10 of its current members are in good position to make the NCAA Tournament (obviously conference play will weed a couple out). And future member Houston is #1.

In Sagarin's ratings, West Virginia is #37....good for LAST in the Big XII.

[Boston Red]

If Kentucky loses tonight, a mob might literally run Cal out of town.

[WVRed]

If Kentucky loses tonight, a mob might literally run Cal out of town.

A fan just got thrown out for holding a “Please go to Texas” sign.

[Sea Ray]

Tennessee with the only home win in the SEC tonight. There were 3 road wins

[cumberlandreds]

A fan just got thrown out for holding a “Please go to Texas” sign.

Why would Texas have him? They would be no better off with him. Probably worse.

[Rojo Rijo]

Tennessee with the only home win in the SEC tonight. There were 3 road wins

Yep, my Gators have started to show a pulse, beating Georgia on Saturday and winning at LSU last night.

South Carolina over Kentucky was shocking to see. When's the last time they beat Kentucky at Rupp?

edit: Looks like has only happened twice before
3/2/1997 #6 South Carolina 72, #3 Kentucky 66
1/31/2009 South Carolina 78, #24 Kentucky 77

It's going to be an interesting year for SEC basketball.

[WVRed]

Why would Texas have him? They would be no better off with him. Probably worse.

Cal would be bringing assistants with deep recruiting ties to the state of Texas. KT Turner is one of them.

They haven’t advanced past the Sweet 16 since 2008 and they are moving to the SEC soon. Compared to Kentucky not making a Final Four since 2015 this is like Tubby leaving for Minnesota. He can go somewhere where the expectations are lower and football drives the bus. I don’t know if his ego can handle that but it’s better than staying in Lexington.

I’ve wanted to post this for awhile and I am trying to type this in a way that conforms to the rules of the board:

I grew up in rural Kentucky and spent 18 years of my life there. Growing up I went to church with my grandparents. One thing I noticed, if the church members didn’t like the preacher and eventually it would happen, they would stop tithing or giving and basically “starve the preacher out”.

I say that because that’s where I’m at with Cal. Obviously money isn’t the issue because of the lifetime contract but seeing fans holding signs up asking him to leave or interrupting his post game show is eerily similar to Tubby Smith having a “For Sale” sign planted in his yard.

You compared it to BCG, I see some similarities but I’m comparing it to the end of Tubbys tenure here. Fans were tired of the losing and early exits in the tournament and Tubby was just as stubborn then to change as Cal is now. The biggest difference between the two was something Tubby couldn’t control and I’ll leave it at that. Cal did lose a lot of the rural fans support when the players knelt for the anthem as well.

I’ve been reading KSR lately and following Matt Jones on Twitter. They are trying to temper fans by saying if Cal leaves it’s going to get a lot worse before it gets better. It probably will but change needs to happen, whether Cal changes or a coach is brought in who brings that change.

[cumberlandreds]

Cal would be bringing assistants with deep recruiting ties to the state of Texas. KT Turner is one of them.

They haven’t advanced past the Sweet 16 since 2008 and they are moving to the SEC soon. Compared to Kentucky not making a Final Four since 2015 this is like Tubby leaving for Minnesota. He can go somewhere where the expectations are lower and football drives the bus. I don’t know if his ego can handle that but it’s better than staying in Lexington.

I’ve wanted to post this for awhile and I am trying to type this in a way that conforms to the rules of the board:

I grew up in rural Kentucky and spent 18 years of my life there. Growing up I went to church with my grandparents. One thing I noticed, if the church members didn’t like the preacher and eventually it would happen, they would stop tithing or giving and basically “starve the preacher out”.

I say that because that’s where I’m at with Cal. Obviously money isn’t the issue because of the lifetime contract but seeing fans holding signs up asking him to leave or interrupting his post game show is eerily similar to Tubby Smith having a “For Sale” sign planted in his yard.

You compared it to BCG, I see some similarities but I’m comparing it to the end of Tubbys tenure here. Fans were tired of the losing and early exits in the tournament and Tubby was just as stubborn then to change as Cal is now. The biggest difference between the two was something Tubby couldn’t control and I’ll leave it at that. Cal did lose a lot of the rural fans support when the players knelt for the anthem as well.

I’ve been reading KSR lately and following Matt Jones on Twitter. They are trying to temper fans by saying if Cal leaves it’s going to get a lot worse before it gets better. It probably will but change needs to happen, whether Cal changes or a coach is brought in who brings that change.

Yea you are right it's more like the ending of Tubby. I guess I was saying BCG because of the bad loss to South Carolina. BCG had a bunch of those and worse. Tubby did too. I know what you are saying about the churches and all. I grew up in rural eastern Kentucky and saw that happen quite a bit. Yes again I agree with Jones that there will be some really lean seasons after Cal leaves. I would say the first year after he leaves they will be lucky to win five games as everyone he has recruited will leave and the new coach will be left with walk ons and maybe a couple of low level transfers. So people back in Kentucky better be prepared and hunker down.

[Boston Red]

With the transfer portal, Kentucky will be just fine year as long as they hire a competent coach. They'll have zero issues attracting a talented roster. I would bet a lot of money on UK in the NCAA Touranment next year if they part ways with Calipari at the end of the year.

[Sea Ray]

Kentucky is poised to get a historic haul in next year's recruiting class. They won't need the transfer portal

[Boston Red]

Kentucky is poised to get a historic haul in next year's recruiting class. They won't need the transfer portal

None of those guys are coming if Calipari isn't the coach. But they'll have no problem acquiring perfectly capable players.

[Sea Ray]

None of those guys are coming if Calipari isn't the coach. But they'll have no problem acquiring perfectly capable players.

I wouldn't be so sure about that. A new coach is not going to be any slouch. My guess is most of them will come to UK and will get those NIL deals promised to them

[Boston Red]

He's not going to be a slouch, and he'll be able to get good players. Just not those particular players. CERTAINLY not Wagner.

[WVRed]

With the transfer portal, Kentucky will be just fine year as long as they hire a competent coach. They'll have zero issues attracting a talented roster. I would bet a lot of money on UK in the NCAA Touranment next year if they part ways with Calipari at the end of the year.

The problem is there isn’t a John Calipari caliber coach that Kentucky could get. At least one who would leave their current situation to deal with a fanbase that potentially could run off two of its past three coaches who have won a national championship.

If it does come open my money is on Bruce Pearl. Think of Eddie Sutton who once said he would crawl on his knees to Lexington. That’s Bruce. That would also be after Nate Oats and Eric Musselman the top two would likely reject it.


Kentucky is poised to get a historic haul in next year's recruiting class. They won't need the transfer portal

If Cal leaves the odds of those players staying committed are slim to nil, especially DJ Wagner who committed to Cal because of his dad.

Doesn’t mean they can’t rebuild a decent team (LSU did it this year) but this class would be toast.

[Boston Red]

Do you really think there are any halfway decent coaches out there who don't believe Tubby and Cal thoroughly earned their getting run off? That's not going to bother anyone worth a damn.

[cumberlandreds]

Do you really think there are any halfway decent coaches out there who don't believe Tubby and Cal thoroughly earned their getting run off? That's not going to bother anyone worth a damn.

UK will have plenty of applicants. It pays big money and that's what these guys are after. Even if turns badly they still have the cash.

[Sea Ray]

UK will have plenty of applicants. It pays big money and that's what these guys are after. Even if turns badly they still have the cash.

Kentucky will be just fine if they can get rid of Cal. The problem is getting out from under that contract. UK purposely structured it in a way that was very hard to break.

[WVRed]

Do you really think there are any halfway decent coaches out there who don't believe Tubby and Cal thoroughly earned their getting run off? That's not going to bother anyone worth a damn.

I don’t disagree, but it’s kinda like Dick Vitale said when Tubby was ran off quoting Jim Valvano “Don’t mess with happiness”.

I think someone will come to Kentucky for the money and to have their ego stroked but it’ll probably be after the top 2-3 reject it. Rick Pitino, Billy Gillespie, and John Calipari weren’t the first choices when they came to Lexington.

Again, I think it will be Bruce Pearl. Watching his press conferences when they play Kentucky is like an interview for the job if Cal ever leaves.

[WVRed]

Kentucky will be just fine if they can get rid of Cal. The problem is getting out from under that contract. UK purposely structured it in a way that was very hard to break.

If Cal leaves on his own accord for another job (which is being highly speculated) then the contract is a moot point.

[Sea Ray]

If Cal leaves on his own accord for another job (which is being highly speculated) then the contract is a moot point.

That's a huge if. What you describe is unprecedented. When has a coach ever left a contract like Cal has "of his own accord"?

[WVRed]

That's a huge if. What you describe is unprecedented. When has a coach ever left a contract like Cal has "of his own accord"?

Depends on if Texas can match it or give him something similar. If there is a school with the boosters and deep pockets to do it it’s Texas.

[Sea Ray]

Depends on if Texas can match it or give him something similar. If there is a school with the boosters and deep pockets to do it it’s Texas.

Again, you're talking something unprecedented. It'd be a $40mill buyout.

https://boardroom.tv/john-calipari-contract-buyout-kentucky/#:~:text=His%20buyout%20is%20precisely%20%240,fire d%20to%20June%2029%2C%202023)

Why would Texas spend that kind of dough on a coach that's getting run out of town on a rail?

I can't say it'd never happen but what you're suggesting here is something that'd be historical. I'm not sure if a school has even paid more than $5mill to buy out a contract on a coach they want to hire...but if they did want to spend this kind of dough, it'd likely be a far younger one than Cal. I think you're taking Texas to be idiots. They're not this stupid

[Boston Red]

I think this would involve Texas paying Cal a princely sum (but substantially less than what he's owed by Kentucky), and Kentucky paying the difference to be rid of him.

[WVRed]

Again, you're talking something unprecedented. It'd be a $40mill buyout.

https://boardroom.tv/john-calipari-contract-buyout-kentucky/#:~:text=His%20buyout%20is%20precisely%20%240,fire d%20to%20June%2029%2C%202023)

Why would Texas spend that kind of dough on a coach that's getting run out of town on a rail?

I can't say it'd never happen but what you're suggesting here is something that'd be historical. I'm not sure if a school has even paid more than $5mill to buy out a contract on a coach they want to hire...but if they did want to spend this kind of dough, it'd likely be a far younger one than Cal. I think you're taking Texas to be idiots. They're not this stupid

This has been reported by Travis Branham who is a recruiting analyst who is pretty well connected with Kentucky. He was the one who reported earlier in the week that Texas officials reached out to Cal through back door means and both sides were very quick to deny it (which he also said would happen)

Branham has typically been very accurate with what he’s reported with UK in the past so I’m not going to say there isn’t smoke to this.

Its kinda like cumberlandreds suggested earlier as well, why would they or anyone want Cal at this point? If I were Texas and the report was true I’d make him appoint a coach in waiting especially given Cal is 63.

[Chip R]

Again, you're talking something unprecedented. It'd be a $40mill buyout.

https://boardroom.tv/john-calipari-contract-buyout-kentucky/#:~:text=His%20buyout%20is%20precisely%20%240,fire d%20to%20June%2029%2C%202023)

Why would Texas spend that kind of dough on a coach that's getting run out of town on a rail?

I can't say it'd never happen but what you're suggesting here is something that'd be historical. I'm not sure if a school has even paid more than $5mill to buy out a contract on a coach they want to hire...but if they did want to spend this kind of dough, it'd likely be a far younger one than Cal. I think you're taking Texas to be idiots. They're not this stupid

Yes they are. I don't know if they would but they certainly have the money to do so.

So what seems to be the issue(s) at UK? They not getting the 5 star recruits they used to? Poor coaching? Injuries? Transfers?

[WVRed]

Yes they are. I don't know if they would but they certainly have the money to do so.

So what seems to be the issue(s) at UK? They not getting the 5 star recruits they used to? Poor coaching? Injuries? Transfers?

I posted this I think in the UK thread but it does apply here:

When Kentucky won it all these were Cals four main people:

John Robic (Xs and Os)
Kenny Payne (Player Development)
Orlando Antigua (Recruiting)
DeWayne Peevy (Fan relations)

All of those four left and what they specialized in suffered. Coach O came back and the recruiting is back to normal but the other three things are still issues. Kentucky is starting to get top recruits (see next year) but with no development, in game coaching mistakes and the fanbase has turned on the coach it all adds up to failure.

Injuries was a part of it against South Carolina but in all fairness Kentucky should have won that game. Jacob Toppin was out and Cason Wallace got hurt eight minutes in. CJ Frederick is working his way back in after a dislocated finger as well.

[Sea Ray]

Kentucky visits Tennessee in a noon tipoff today. The metrics say Tennessee should win easily but I remember UK's recent 9-16 yr and they beat the Vols in Knoxville. With the talent Kentucky has, they're very capable. Can't remember my Vols ever being a double digit favorite over Kentucky

[WVRed]

Kentucky visits Tennessee in a noon tipoff today. The metrics say Tennessee should win easily but I remember UK's recent 9-16 yr and they beat the Vols in Knoxville. With the talent Kentucky has, they're very capable. Can't remember my Vols ever being a double digit favorite over Kentucky

I really wouldn’t be shocked if Tennessee doesn’t break the Kentucky record for a loss in the regular season (2013-30 points the game after Nerlens Noel went down, also at Tennessee)

[Boston Red]

I really wouldn’t be shocked if Tennessee doesn’t break the Kentucky record for a loss in the regular season (2013-30 points the game after Nerlens Noel went down, also at Tennessee)

Maybe that's the SEC record, but Pitino's first team lost something like 150-95 to Kansas.

And back in the day Dale Brown took an LSU team to Rupp and won by about 35.

[WVRed]

I really wouldn’t be shocked if Tennessee doesn’t break the Kentucky record for a loss in the regular season (2013-30 points the game after Nerlens Noel went down, also at Tennessee)

Happy to admit I was wrong on this one. It’s been close and Kentucky has led for most of it.

Really think Sahvir Wheeler is a part of the problem and he’s out for this game and they look so much better.

[WVRed]

Really curious as to why WVU fired Larry Harrison. He’s been with Huggins since Cincinnati days. Doesn’t make sense unless the AD had something to do with it.

[Sea Ray]

This is one of those games where Tennessee goes cold and can't hit a bucket. Unfortunately they're prone to such games and that's why they don't go far in March

[Boston Red]

If you ever needed evidence of the importance of good coaching in college basketball, look no further than Xavier being 7-0 in the Big East.

[Assembly Hall]

Sad news coming out of Tuscaloosa...

https://www.si.com/college/alabama/bamacentral/darius-miles-charged-with-capital-murder