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WVRed
10-26-2022, 07:46 AM
Isn't he out with a hamstring injury? We haven't seen him yet.

Yep. We’ve seen very little of the rookies. Taylor Britt was healthy for the first time this past Sunday so hopefully he takes Eli Apples spot moving forward.

bucksfan2
10-26-2022, 11:54 AM
Yep. We’ve seen very little of the rookies. Taylor Britt was healthy for the first time this past Sunday so hopefully he takes Eli Apples spot moving forward.

I know people love to rag on Eli Apple, sometimes rightfully so. But if Taylor Britt takes his spot, and Apple is the backup CB, that is a pretty good place to be.

Kingspoint
10-26-2022, 05:42 PM
Kevin Huber ranks 30/32 in net punt yards with 37.9.


That’s truly bad. He’s become a major liability. I really wish both parties would have just agreed to let him go out and retire on top last year with the Super Bowl appearance.

They should look to see who punts for the University of Utah. They've had several Ray Guy Award winners over the last 10 years.

Kingspoint
10-26-2022, 05:57 PM
Bet you they re-sign Bell. Bates walks. And Hill replaces Bates.

Bell is forcing the issue with his good play. Originally not to be a guy they resign, he's proving too valuable, and at a much better price than Bates. Currently, Bell is probably paid 12th best among all Safeties, or somewhere in that area, so he's still not going to be cheap, either. But, I agree that they choose to keep him. They simply can't afford Bates once they have to pony up for Higgins and Burrow. They also have the elephant in the room of Jonah Williams and LT. Then there's the "quality" 3rd Receiver question. Nobody has proven themselves capable of even halfway filling Boyd's shoes.

WVRed
10-26-2022, 06:21 PM
Bell is forcing the issue with his good play. Originally not to be a guy they resign, he's proving too valuable, and at a much better price than Bates. Currently, Bell is probably paid 12th best among all Safeties, or somewhere in that area, so he's still not going to be cheap, either. But, I agree that they choose to keep him. They simply can't afford Bates once they have to pony up for Higgins and Burrow. They also have the elephant in the room of Jonah Williams and LT. Then there's the "quality" 3rd Receiver question. Nobody has proven themselves capable of even halfway filling Boyd's shoes.

I think both walk. Dax takes one safety spot and they find someone else on the cheap or in the draft to take the other spot.

I like the idea of using the draft to give Burrow some more toys. Mixon will most likely be gone and Jahmyr Gibbs or Bijan Robinson would be a welcome upgrade. Darnell Washington at TE is another player I like. 6’7 270 lb red zone threat.

As for Jonah Williams, how about Mike McGlinchey?

Kingspoint
10-26-2022, 07:05 PM
I think both walk. Dax takes one safety spot and they find someone else on the cheap or in the draft to take the other spot.

I like the idea of using the draft to give Burrow some more toys. Mixon will most likely be gone and Jahmyr Gibbs or Bijan Robinson would be a welcome upgrade. Darnell Washington at TE is another player I like. 6’7 270 lb red zone threat.

As for Jonah Williams, how about Mike McGlinchey?

It could be that both walk simply because Burrow, Chase, Higgins, the 3rd Receiver option and LT will take a large piece of the pie. There won't be much left in future years for everyone else as they are already paying (the proper sum) for C, RG, RT and DT and DE.

Yes. They have no choice but to look at Mixon's spot as a place to save money. That makes the most sense.

WVRed
10-26-2022, 07:49 PM
Way too early but what the heck:

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20221026/6cfb05fcf62ff8ae08a0f415ee1f1896.jpg

Mahmoud Diabate from Utah in the 7th round.

Todd Gack
10-26-2022, 08:33 PM
You're proving my original point. Thanks. The offense did exactly what it should have, looked exactly like everybody wanted it to. If you can't compliment the coaches after that then you just don't want to. Which, fine, I don't care but I do want to give ZT and the offense credit because it has most definitely evolved and looks very dangerous right now.

Meh. It's week 7 or whatever. If our playcalling was average, our record should, at worst, 5-2 and probably 6-1 because Zac wants to call triple double reverses on the 2 yard line. I actually respect Lou. I just think Zac is mediocre.

Todd Gack
10-26-2022, 08:36 PM
It’s a little frustrating to have your 1st round pick play so few snaps but I expect to see more Dax once they start playing the pass-heavy opponents after the bye. There’s a good chance that they get an upgrade from Dax to Bates next year, but I’d like to see him get more snaps so there isn’t a huge learning curve.

We shall see. But I'll say it's a little concerning that he hasn't played more. Time will tell on that though.

WVRed
10-26-2022, 09:02 PM
We shall see. But I'll say it's a little concerning that he hasn't played more. Time will tell on that though.

Who’s he going to beat out?

Vonn Bell is having a career year and despite the stats Jessie Bates is one of the best safeties in the game and is going to be paid like one.

Dax and Taylor-Britt are long term picks. Anything they give this year is gravy.

Kingspoint
10-26-2022, 09:13 PM
Wide Receiver Rankings going into Week 8 from PFF:

1. CINCINNATI BENGALS (UP 1 FROM WEEK 3)

WR1: Ja’Marr Chase (78.9)
WR2: Tee Higgins (77.4)
WR3: Tyler Boyd (74.5)

This is still the best wide receiver corps in the NFL, and it's playing like it once again. All three receivers are capable of going for over 125 yards in any given week — that’s what makes them so dangerous. The Bengals would be wise to add some more speed to the bottom of this unit, but there really isn’t much else to knock here.

PFF stats to know:

Ja’Marr Chase is tied for the most first-down receptions (34) with Cooper Kupp and Tyreek Hill.
The Bengals' top three receivers have combined for just four drops on 148 targets.
Tee Higgins is averaging 2.13 yards per route run, 18th-best in the NFL.

Kingspoint
10-26-2022, 09:16 PM
PFF's Offensive Line Rankings through Week 8:

• Eagles, Browns remain at Nos. 1 and 2: All five of the Eagles' starters are playing at a high level. Cleveland will likely be missing Wyatt Teller again in Week 8.

• Bengals up into top 25: The unit's recent improvement coincides with the offense as a whole finding its footing.


They note "the improvement" to get to #25 by the Bengals. Improve some every week is the goal.

Hillsdale87
10-26-2022, 09:17 PM
Way too early but what the heck:

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Mahmoud Diabate from Utah in the 7th round.

I really hope they do not spend a first round pick on a RB. I'd love to upgrade, but I don't want to use a premium pick there. There's always value later


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Kingspoint
10-26-2022, 09:18 PM
Also from the Atlanta game per PFF...

Offensive spotlight: Joe Burrow put together his most prolific performance of the season, going 34-of-42 for 482 yards and three scores in an absolute masterclass of a performance. He racked up three big-time throws and no turnover-worthy plays, as well. Arguably the biggest difference between Burrow now and early in the season is a clean pocket. He was pressured on only nine of his 45 dropbacks.

Rookie spotlight: Rookie left guard Cordell Volson had arguably his best game as a pro. On 43 pass-blocking snaps, he allowed just one pressure. It was the third game this season where he’s allowed one or fewer pressures.

Offensive line spotlight: After a slow start to the season, the Bengals' offensive line has completely turned it around as of late. They combined to allow only seven pressures, with no single player allowing more than two. That’s a far cry from other points this season.

Todd Gack
10-26-2022, 10:11 PM
Who’s he going to beat out?

Vonn Bell is having a career year and despite the stats Jessie Bates is one of the best safeties in the game and is going to be paid like one.

Dax and Taylor-Britt are long term picks. Anything they give this year is gravy.

Hill is versatile. I trust that Lou could utilize him better and more efficiently by now. Lou loves guys with that type of versatility. I admit it's still early but I'm keeping an eye out for him. I like for someone to ask him a question about his usage for Dax.

KoryMac5
10-27-2022, 09:28 AM
Hill is versatile. I trust that Lou could utilize him better and more efficiently by now. Lou loves guys with that type of versatility. I admit it's still early but I'm keeping an eye out for him. I like for someone to ask him a question about his usage for Dax.

They have asked Lou...

https://www.si.com/nfl/bengals/news/lou-anarumo-explains-why-bengals-arent-using-dax-hill-on-defense

They talked a bit about it the other day in the Athletics' rookie report about his new role:

From what I read Hill will be taking over Flowers role on the defense (TE 3rd down specialist) and I would imagine his role will continue to expand as Lou gains confidence in him.

The Operator
10-27-2022, 04:44 PM
This cannot be happening. Ugh.

redsfan30
10-27-2022, 04:49 PM
That's........less than ideal.

BuckeyeRed27
10-27-2022, 05:01 PM
Well….crap

KoryMac5
10-27-2022, 05:20 PM
Most likely he is looking for second opinions on playing through it managing the pain could be a slight labrum tear. Tough injury but the next few games and bye may ease the sting.

Kingspoint
10-27-2022, 05:24 PM
Now would be a great time to trade for Jeudy, whose contract is cheap for this year and next.

K J Hamler

There are many more available.

Let Chase get the time off needed to be healthy when he comes back.

What if Higgins or Boyd go down, too? They would feel a need to bring him back too soon.

Make a deal now.

Kingspoint
10-27-2022, 05:32 PM
It makes so much sense to rest Chase as he'll have this week to rest, next week's Carolina game to rest, the following Bye Week to rest and the following Pittsburgh game to rest. That's four weeks right there, while they could also rest him for the first half of the week against TEN and see how he feels.

Keeping him off the plane rides (three of four games coming up are on the road) is also a great idea to not aggravate a hip injury.

Betterread
10-27-2022, 05:56 PM
Too bad about Chase. He is your most interesting player. Tee Higgins is now a #1 receiver. He should get a lot of balls thrown his way.

Ohayou
10-27-2022, 06:28 PM
Would love for the Bengals to target someone like Kendrick Bourne, but I won't hold my breath.

Todd Gack
10-27-2022, 08:46 PM
This cannot be happening. Ugh.

Don't worry guys. We have another #1 receiver on the team.

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They have asked Lou...

https://www.si.com/nfl/bengals/news/lou-anarumo-explains-why-bengals-arent-using-dax-hill-on-defense

They talked a bit about it the other day in the Athletics' rookie report about his new role:

From what I read Hill will be taking over Flowers role on the defense (TE 3rd down specialist) and I would imagine his role will continue to expand as Lou gains confidence in him.

Good answer from Lou.

Larkin90
10-27-2022, 09:04 PM
Now would be a great time to trade for Jeudy, whose contract is cheap for this year and next.

K J Hamler

There are many more available.

Let Chase get the time off needed to be healthy when he comes back.

What if Higgins or Boyd go down, too? They would feel a need to bring him back too soon.

Make a deal now.

This is a must. Get Jeudy now or you’re punting an entire season inside of a short window. Higgins himself hasn’t been fully healthy all season (concussion + ankle). We have absolutely no depth at WR after the big 3 and we’re already down to 1.5.

Give Denver next years #1 and #4 for Jeudy and keep rolling.

KoryMac5
10-27-2022, 09:04 PM
Dehner reporting it is an avulsion fracture...reports Chase feels fine but the imaging says otherwise which is probably why they sought a second opinion. Most likely he will have to keep weight off of it for 4 weeks until it heals.

Tough blow as you don't replace Chase...Bengals may make a move to get another reliable outside receiver as they are staring to get thin there esp. with Higgins injury history.

Todd Gack
10-27-2022, 09:08 PM
This is a must. Get Jeudy now or you’re punting an entire season inside of a short window. Higgins himself hasn’t been fully healthy all season (concussion + ankle). We have absolutely no depth at WR after the big 3 and we’re already down to 1.5.

Give Denver next years #1 and #4 for Jeudy and keep rolling.

That's a complete overreaction of an offer for Jeudy.

KoryMac5
10-27-2022, 09:12 PM
That's a complete overreaction of an offer for Jeudy.

Agreed Jeudy will most likely net a 2nd and possibly a day 3 pick...Teams hate giving up firsts unless the player is a star. The Bengals really hate giving up picks. Think Terrance Marshall who has a good relationship with Burrow.

Hillsdale87
10-27-2022, 09:23 PM
IMO it depends on how they evaluate the injury. If they think he will be back in 4 games (5 weeks), I don't think they should do anything drastic. Good teams should win at least 3 of the next 4. Higgins, Boyd, and Hurst should be capable enough. By the time they fully integrate whoever they trade for, Chase should be back


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WVRed
10-27-2022, 09:36 PM
Agreed Jeudy will most likely net a 2nd and possibly a day 3 pick...Teams hate giving up firsts unless the player is a star. The Bengals really hate giving up picks. Think Terrance Marshall who has a good relationship with Burrow.

The Giants got a 3rd and 6th for Kedarius Toney who I’m kinda wishing we would have jumped on now. Toney would still have had value in this offense even when Chase came back.

A first round pick for Jeudy is laughable though. College production does not equal NFL production.

Larkin90
10-27-2022, 09:41 PM
IMO it depends on how they evaluate the injury. If they think he will be back in 4 games (5 weeks), I don't think they should do anything drastic. Good teams should win at least 3 of the next 4. Higgins, Boyd, and Hurst should be capable enough. By the time they fully integrate whoever they trade for, Chase should be back


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I’d treat it as season ending, for multiple reasons.

1) initial medical report supposedly indicated that it was
2) trade deadline is in 4 days. After that, if he has a setback or the situation changes it’s too late. WR depth is completely depleted now. And Hurst has been listed as “Q” on the injury report all season with a groin injury. We’re a couple of plays away from playing the rest of the season with a receiving corps of Boyd / Morgan / Stanley / Wilcox.
3) I don’t want anyone, including Chase himself, rushing Chase back to save the season. Bring in a true #1 and shut him down.

Perhaps a #1 and a #4 is overpaying for Jeudy, I don’t know. Point is, get on the phone and find out what it will take.

oregonred
10-27-2022, 10:01 PM
IMO it depends on how they evaluate the injury. If they think he will be back in 4 games (5 weeks), I don't think they should do anything drastic. Good teams should win at least 3 of the next 4. Higgins, Boyd, and Hurst should be capable enough. By the time they fully integrate whoever they trade for, Chase should be back


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Yep, you've still got some serious weapons and a top shelf QB along with a solid Defense to keep the ship sailing on course the next month.

I'd like to see someone better than the Bengals #4-6 WR's brought in for depth the rest of the way for no more than a 3rd or 4th rounder

The Operator
10-27-2022, 10:27 PM
I heard this guy is available :D :p


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WVRed
10-27-2022, 10:35 PM
Yep, you've still got some serious weapons and a top shelf QB along with a solid Defense to keep the ship sailing on course the next month.

I'd like to see someone better than the Bengals #4-6 WR's brought in for depth the rest of the way for no more than a 3rd or 4th rounder

There’s options besides Jeudy or Hamler:

Amari Rodgers (just keep him away from punt returns)
Marquez Callaway
Jarvis Landry
Scotty Miller
Brandin Cooks
Kendrick Bourne
Denzel Mims
Elijah Moore
Kenny Golladay
Mike Gesicki (TE)
AJ Green
Marvin Jones

Part of me wouldn’t mind seeing them bring back AJ Green to see him get a chance at a deep playoff chase.

Redhook
10-27-2022, 10:39 PM
I’d treat it as season ending, for multiple reasons.

1) initial medical report supposedly indicated that it was
2) trade deadline is in 4 days. After that, if he has a setback or the situation changes it’s too late. WR depth is completely depleted now. And Hurst has been listed as “Q” on the injury report all season with a groin injury. We’re a couple of plays away from playing the rest of the season with a receiving corps of Boyd / Morgan / Stanley / Wilcox.
3) I don’t want anyone, including Chase himself, rushing Chase back to save the season. Bring in a true #1 and shut him down.

Perhaps a #1 and a #4 is overpaying for Jeudy, I don’t know. Point is, get on the phone and find out what it will take.

I’d like to see them make a trade too for the reasons you’ve identified. That said, your point #3 is a tad off. There’s no way they’re bringing in a true #1 and Jeudy isn’t close to a #1. He’s a borderline #2, at best. I’d definitely rather have Boyd than him, but that being said, I’d be happy if they could get him for some mid to late picks.

Ohayou
10-27-2022, 10:46 PM
Yep, you've still got some serious weapons and a top shelf QB along with a solid Defense to keep the ship sailing on course the next month.

I'd like to see someone better than the Bengals #4-6 WR's brought in for depth the rest of the way for no more than a 3rd or 4th rounder

These are my thoughts as well.

I doubt the Steelers would trade him to us specifically, but I'd also look into Chase Claypool as well. He hasn't been the most consistent lately, but he has all the intangibles. I think he'd do well on the outside with Burrow throwing to him. Cordarrelle Patterson is another name I mentioned before, someone who could help both the running & passing game, but damn does the NFC South suck. Atlanta might actually win that division...

WVRed
10-27-2022, 10:49 PM
These are my thoughts as well.

I doubt the Steelers would trade him to us specifically, but I'd also look into Chase Claypool as well. He hasn't been the most consistent lately, but he has all the intangibles. I think he'd do well on the outside with Burrow throwing to him. Cordarrelle Patterson is another name I mentioned before, someone who could help both the running & passing game, but damn does the NFC South suck. Atlanta might actually win that division...

I didn’t list Claypool because I can’t see the Steelers trading him here (at least without a high draft pick going back).

Twitter is really pushing AJ Green back to Cincinnati. Don’t know how much he has left in the tank but he would already be familiar with Zac and Burrow.

Bob Sheed
10-27-2022, 11:11 PM
Isn't Green washed?

Ohayou
10-27-2022, 11:15 PM
I didn’t list Claypool because I can’t see the Steelers trading him here (at least without a high draft pick going back).

Twitter is really pushing AJ Green back to Cincinnati. Don’t know how much he has left in the tank but he would already be familiar with Zac and Burrow.

I definitely wouldn't trade a 3rd for Claypool. I'd do a 4th, though.

Green would be fine with me. Can't see him being a worse option than Mike Thomas. He showed some flashes last season.

RedTeamGo!
10-27-2022, 11:43 PM
I said it a couple weeks ago. Bengals should trade for Kareem Hunt. He’s a very good receiving/3rd down back. Would probably only take a 4th or 5th round pick. They have good enough WRs to bide their time until Chase is healthy.

Wonderful Monds
10-27-2022, 11:52 PM
They should hit up Gronkowski and see how serious he was about wanting to play with Burrow


Doing some 2 TE sets might also help with protecting Burrow a bit too tbh

bucksfan2
10-28-2022, 10:12 AM
The Bengals will probably stand pat, and it may not be the worst decision. I have been somewhat skeptical of Higgins being a true #1, well now he has a chance to prove himself.

In all likelihood they would be getting a complimentary player, the third option after Higgins and Boyd, someone who wouldn't be ready to contribute until after the bye week.

Saw one of the Bengals beat writers talk about options, and pretty much they have to come from the LA/Cincinnati system.

If the Bengals believe Chase is out for four games, and I don't see any reason at this time to believe that is incorrect, what would the cost be for adding a WR for two games? Do they want to (or will they) trade a middle round draft pick for a WR who in 4 weeks profiles to be the 4th guy?

If they make a move, I would want to see them add a guy who does something slightly different. Maybe a speedster who can give defenses a different look even when Chase comes back.

WrongVerb
10-28-2022, 10:20 AM
If a trade isn't in the cards, here's a reminder that both Josh Gordon and OBJ are at home on the couch.

Other FA receivers listed here...


Best available free agent wide receivers for Bengals to consider (https://www.cincyjungle.com/2022/10/27/23427529/nfl-free-agents-2022-best-wide-receivers-bengals-will-fuller-news-dede-westbrook)

Dede Westbrook
Will Fuller
Auden Tate
Emmanuel Sanders

Roy Tucker
10-28-2022, 10:25 AM
I’m not an NFL tactician, but Chase dictated how opponents defended the Bengals.

He is the Bengals’ (and maybe the NFL’s) major threat. His injury will have a big hit. Boyd and Higgins and Hurst will really have to step up.

KoryMac5
10-28-2022, 10:31 AM
If a trade isn't in the cards, here's a reminder that both Josh Gordon and OBJ are at home on the couch.

Whispers are OBJ won't be ready until Dec...

I think it will be a small move depth piece...Terrance Marshall Jr or Auden Tate off Philly's Practice Squad...

Sea Ray
10-28-2022, 11:17 AM
I wonder if we can work something out with the Jaguars and bring back late camp cut Kendric Pryor?

WVRed
10-28-2022, 11:20 AM
Isn't Green washed?

Yes and no.

He’s not going to put up past AJ numbers but would be a solid third option behind Boyd and Higgins.

Arizona is loaded at receiver. Last year was Hopkins and Christian Kirk, this year it was Hollywood and Hopkins, plus they have Rondale Moore.

Boss-Hog
10-28-2022, 11:39 AM
Yes and no.

He’s not going to put up past AJ numbers but would be a solid third option behind Boyd and Higgins.

Arizona is loaded at receiver. Last year was Hopkins and Christian Kirk, this year it was Hollywood and Hopkins, plus they have Rondale Moore.I disagree about A.J. He looked washed up during his last year here, and now, he's a year plus older. Beyond that, he played the first six games of this year without Hopkins, and in five games played, he's totaled 10 catches for only 56 yards, so unfortunately, I think he's well past his prime to the point I doubt he's able to help any team these days. Finally, A.J. made comments indicating he didn't think his skillset was a good match for Zac's playbook, so I'd be shocked if there was any interest in a reunion from either side.

plantmanky
10-28-2022, 12:30 PM
Not sure why the Bengals would trade for a WR just because Chase is injured. The injury actually opens up the offense more.

Oxilon
10-28-2022, 01:18 PM
Not sure why the Bengals would trade for a WR just because Chase is injured. The injury actually opens up the offense more.

Not sure I understand. Is this the ‘Chiefs are better without Tyreek Hill’ defense?

RiverRat13
10-28-2022, 02:37 PM
There was one tweet by a beat reporter that the Bengals think Ja'marr will be a fast healer. I predict they do nothing and hope he's ready after the bye. It wouldn't be my course of action because they need to upgrade WR4 anyway (a speed guy to get snaps when Chase is in the slot would be perfect), but it's what I see happening.

WVRed
10-28-2022, 03:18 PM
Not sure why the Bengals would trade for a WR just because Chase is injured. The injury actually opens up the offense more.

Two points:

1. It actually does the opposite in that Chase was the most complete WR on the team.

Need someone to burn the secondary deep? Chase is the likely threat.

Need someone to burn the secondary on a screen? Again, Chase.

Higgins is a red zone threat and Boyd is a slot/possession receiver. After those two there is very little quality depth.

Throw in that Chase is and always has been Burrows favorite target going back to LSU. Watch the game on Monday night and tell me if the Bengals offense opens up or stalls with Chase out. I’m betting on the latter.

2. The Bengals have a window to compete for the Super Bowl before Burrow and others become too expensive. If it means sacrificing a fifth or sixth round pick to bring in another receiver for this season who could also help when Chase does come back you take advantage of it.

I’m not saying turn into the LA Rams and *bleep* them picks because they are headed for a major long term collapse but if they can at least get a deep threat to keep teams honest it’ll help in the next six weeks or so that Chase is out.

Hillsdale87
10-28-2022, 04:00 PM
Too bad the Ravens already signed Desean Jackson. He would have been the perfect fill in for a couple games before suffering a season ending injury right as Chase is coming back.

I think Josh Reynolds would be a great target. He's not great, but would be a solid #3, and he would acclimate quickly having played on the Rams


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Boss-Hog
10-28-2022, 04:02 PM
Too bad the Ravens already signed Desean Jackson. He would have been the perfect fill in for a couple games before suffering a season ending injury right as Chase is coming back. I think he's on their practice squad, so he's theoretically available after this week.

Redsfaithful
10-28-2022, 04:21 PM
I'd like to see Trent Taylor more involved. I could see him being pretty good against all this zone the Bengals are seeing.

forfreelin04
10-28-2022, 04:33 PM
Though his contract likely needs to be reconstructed, I'd be all for Brandin Cooks. He could stretch the field and also played in a McVay led offense.

I think the jury is still out on how long Chase will be sidelined, but the Bengals could use more Wide Receiver depth regardless.

KoryMac5
10-28-2022, 06:48 PM
I'd like to see Trent Taylor more involved. I could see him being pretty good against all this zone the Bengals are seeing.

I thought that as well...move Boyd to the outside a position he has played before and put Trent and Evans in the slot.

Kingspoint
10-29-2022, 01:37 AM
The Giants got a 3rd and 6th for Kedarius Toney who I’m kinda wishing we would have jumped on now. Toney would still have had value in this offense even when Chase came back.

A first round pick for Jeudy is laughable though. College production does not equal NFL production.

He only mentioned the 1st and 4th because that's what was being reported Denver wanted. Well, what Denver wants and what Denver gets are two different things. It would be just like KoryMac said, a 2nd Day pick and a 3rd Day pick.

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I thought that as well...move Boyd to the outside a position he has played before and put Trent and Evans in the slot.

There is that. It's one of the first things I thought of...mainly because Boyd has played it before and already knows the Offense and Burrow already knows him. It also keeps Boyd, a great Redzone target, on the field for all plays.

Kingspoint
10-29-2022, 01:40 AM
A. J. Green is washed. Stay very far away. He's been washed for two seasons.

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I definitely wouldn't trade a 3rd for Claypool. I'd do a 4th, though.

Green would be fine with me. Can't see him being a worse option than Mike Thomas. He showed some flashes last season.

Pittsburgh wants two 2nd Day picks for Claypool. He's much, much better than Mike Thomas.

Larkin90
10-29-2022, 12:00 PM
Hurst now has a newly reported ankle injury to go along with the season-long groin issue

pedro
10-29-2022, 01:29 PM
New reporting is that Chase won't go on IR

https://sports.yahoo.com/ja-marr-chase-avoids-going-164513617.html

Sea Ray
10-29-2022, 02:46 PM
I think he's on their practice squad, so he's theoretically available after this week.

Teams can protect 4 guys on the PS this year. My guess is Jackson is protected but I honestly can't find that info

Boss-Hog
10-29-2022, 02:55 PM
Teams can protect 4 guys on the PS this year. My guess is Jackson is protected but I honestly can't find that infoI believe that's a week to week thing, and a PS player can only be protected so many times.

Sea Ray
10-29-2022, 03:22 PM
I believe that's a week to week thing, and a PS player can only be protected so many times.

I did not know that :thumbup:

Boss-Hog
10-29-2022, 03:36 PM
I did not know that [emoji106]I believe that's the case. I know it is for the number of times (three) a player can be elevated for a game before they have to be promoted to the 53 man roster, but I think it's also the case for limiting the number of times a PS player can be protected, too. Otherwise, it would allow a team to essentially have larger rosters while paying PS players a lesser salary.

ShyGuy
10-29-2022, 09:23 PM
Bengals should win Monday night and this is coming from a Browns fan.

I'm of the opinion Stefanski really hasn't shown all that much this year. All he seems to rely on his menu on the sidelines during the game his head is buried in. He's very good at drawing up plays but a poor coach when it comes to leadership & situational awareness.

Kingspoint
10-30-2022, 12:46 AM
I believe that's a week to week thing, and a PS player can only be protected so many times.

It's not complete protection, I believe. I believe it's only the right to offer them a full-time contract should someone want to sign someone off of another team's Practice Squad, where it doesn't have to be more, but it has to be gauranteed for the rest of the season. It wouldn't be ethical to not allow someone to get full-time employment that's gauranteed for the season to be left in a situation where they could be cut any time and not be paid any further.

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Browns still without their #1 passing target....their Starting TE.

The Operator
10-31-2022, 08:24 PM
Well this game started off just like last year.


Nice drive then an interception.

Roy Tucker
10-31-2022, 08:25 PM
Bah.

RiverRat13
10-31-2022, 08:27 PM
Tough break on the INT.

Aikman is on drugs if he thinks that wasn’t PI on Greedy Williams. Higgins had him completely beat until the grab.

The Operator
10-31-2022, 08:32 PM
Blocked the kick!

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Tough break on the INT.

Aikman is on drugs if he thinks that wasn’t PI on Greedy Williams. Higgins had him completely beat until the grab.

It was 100% pass interference. Ridiculous that it wasn’t called.

plantmanky
10-31-2022, 08:39 PM
Williams couldn't block a statue.

The Operator
10-31-2022, 08:39 PM
Ugh. He’s getting no time to throw. Every other play ends up in a check down to Mixon or Perine.


Or a sack in that case.

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And Huber is washed.

Roy Tucker
10-31-2022, 08:40 PM
Huber is not having a good year.

Playadlc
10-31-2022, 08:40 PM
Have to cut Huber.

RiverRat13
10-31-2022, 08:40 PM
Why is Huber still on this team?

Hillsdale87
10-31-2022, 08:41 PM
It's getting worse every week with Huber


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RiverRat13
10-31-2022, 08:42 PM
Every snap under center is a win for the Browns. Cleveland has been bad against the run. The Bengals need to be able to run the ball from the gun tonight.

Larkin90
10-31-2022, 08:43 PM
So this is what our offense looks like without Chase…

It’s ok Mike, no need to trade for a WR or try to improve the team in any way. I’m sure we’ll be fine with Mike Thomas for the next 4-6+ weeks.

Ohayou
10-31-2022, 08:43 PM
Lol did Williams even look at Garrett?

The Operator
10-31-2022, 08:44 PM
I’ll take that!!!


Idiotic play by The Browns.

Wonderful Monds
10-31-2022, 08:44 PM
lol browns

Roy Tucker
10-31-2022, 08:47 PM
Mixon is good running north-south. But once he stops to make a juke, he’s toast.

Hillsdale87
10-31-2022, 08:49 PM
So this is what our offense looks like without Chase…

It’s ok Mike, no need to trade for a WR or try to improve the team in any way. I’m sure we’ll be fine with Mike Thomas for the next 4-6+ weeks.

It's been 3 days


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The Operator
10-31-2022, 08:49 PM
They’re obviously missing Chase.

Bad drop by Mike Thomas. Seems like they’re 3rd & long every time you look up.

Playadlc
10-31-2022, 08:51 PM
Probably punt this.

The Operator
10-31-2022, 08:51 PM
Probably punt this.

Agree. They’ve been terrible on 4th downs.


Unless they finally woke up and don’t trust Huber anymore….

Larkin90
10-31-2022, 08:51 PM
It's been 3 days


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And Mike Thomas already has 1 drop with 0 catches. There’s only 1 day left to make a move. After that, we spend the rest of the year replacing the single best WR in the NFL with the single worst WR in the NFL.

plantmanky
10-31-2022, 08:53 PM
Not that I disagree that Huber has had a bad year, but remember this isnt the starting long snapper, and the snaps are terrible as well.

Sea Ray
10-31-2022, 08:53 PM
Henrickson was held pretty good on that play

The Operator
10-31-2022, 08:56 PM
That’s not a catch.

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The game is fixed if that call stands. No way in hell is that a catch.

Roy Tucker
10-31-2022, 08:57 PM
Why do the booth force the Bengals to throw the challenge flag? Obvious incompletion.

RiverRat13
10-31-2022, 08:59 PM
WR4 is too important in a 3 WR system to have a special teams player at that position. They have to draft a WR this year.

plantmanky
10-31-2022, 08:59 PM
What a cheap shot into Hendricksons back.

The Operator
10-31-2022, 08:59 PM
So that’s what a good punt looks like.


Hendrickson banged up?

Sea Ray
10-31-2022, 09:01 PM
That’s not a catch.

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The game is fixed if that call stands. No way in hell is that a catch.

We shouldn't have to burn a challenge on that crap

The Operator
10-31-2022, 09:02 PM
Ugh.

Burrow’s gonna have about 30 completions for 80 yards at this rate.

Roy Tucker
10-31-2022, 09:03 PM
Huber’s leg is just dead.

The Operator
10-31-2022, 09:03 PM
We shouldn't have to burn a challenge on that crap

Yea that was garbage. Total failure on the refs.

Wonderful Monds
10-31-2022, 09:03 PM
Very frustrating to watch so far. They’re definitely still adjusting to being Chaseless, but these guys gotta catch the balls that hit their hands.

Playadlc
10-31-2022, 09:04 PM
This is going to be one of those games.

Just have to find a way.

plantmanky
10-31-2022, 09:07 PM
Jessie Bates is a waste of space. Get him off the field and just pay him to sit.

The Operator
10-31-2022, 09:07 PM
How do you let Cooper get that wide open.

UKFlounder
10-31-2022, 09:09 PM
This is Pittsburgh and Dallas, part 3.

They might make it interesting late, but I feel another “too little, too late” gsme.

I hope I’m wrong



This is going to be one of those games.

Just have to find a way.

Playadlc
10-31-2022, 09:10 PM
Too many times this offense sucks in the 1st half.

0 points. Ridiculous. With or without Chase.

Roy Tucker
10-31-2022, 09:12 PM
I was a Browns fan back in the day. Seeing Jim Brown’s picture, it reminds me of Frank Ryan, Ernie Green, Paul Warfield, Gary Collins, Milt Morin, Dick Scafrath, Gene Hickerson, John Wooten.

And I can’t remember what I had for lunch today.

Hillsdale87
10-31-2022, 09:12 PM
How do the refs miss this blatant of a hold next to the QB? https://twitter.com/nfl/status/1587250020809469953?s=46&t=f2E5VPQzQrCJvHyo6tWDnA


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The Operator
10-31-2022, 09:13 PM
Welp. Better answer this.

Browns get the ball in the 3rd quarter.

Playadlc
10-31-2022, 09:14 PM
This is embarrassing.

Larkin90
10-31-2022, 09:14 PM
“But Tee Higgins is also a WR1”….

1 catch. 2 drops. 3 yards.

Wonderful Monds
10-31-2022, 09:15 PM
Good lord.

The Operator
10-31-2022, 09:15 PM
Stupid 12 man penalty gives The Browns an easy 2 point attempt.

8-0 Browns

The Operator
10-31-2022, 09:20 PM
Brutal.

This is gonna be an L.

plantmanky
10-31-2022, 09:21 PM
Time to bench Mixon, he cant run, he cant catch, he cant block. I hope they trade him.

Roy Tucker
10-31-2022, 09:21 PM
Mixon should have recovered that fumble. He had a clear shot.

Hillsdale87
10-31-2022, 09:21 PM
How does Mixon not fall on that?!


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Playadlc
10-31-2022, 09:21 PM
I’m out. F this.

Hillsdale87
10-31-2022, 09:22 PM
Crazy how we just suck against the Browns


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Wonderful Monds
10-31-2022, 09:22 PM
Good lord.

The Operator
10-31-2022, 09:22 PM
Kevin Stefanski is Roy Oswalt to Zac Taylor.

Unbelievable.

redsfandan
10-31-2022, 09:25 PM
Brutal.

This is gonna be an L.

WAY too early.

Hillsdale87
10-31-2022, 09:25 PM
Mixon is a liability in pass protection and a mediocre runner. I can't see how he's back next year


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Roy Tucker
10-31-2022, 09:26 PM
Bengals need to keep the Browns out of the end zone on this drive.

Wonderful Monds
10-31-2022, 09:26 PM
Idk if Mixon is necessarily cooked, he’s had some decent games lately. It is telling that Zac even doesn’t seem to be trusting him very much tonight tho.

The Operator
10-31-2022, 09:27 PM
Now awuzie banged up

Larkin90
10-31-2022, 09:27 PM
Without Chase, we can’t even move the ball against one of the worst teams in the entire league. 70 yards passing in the first half and Chris Evans is our leading receiver.

The Operator
10-31-2022, 09:27 PM
WAY too early.

It’s not a game thread without my manic overreactions. It’s a process. :)

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That’s what we needed!!!!!!

The Operator
10-31-2022, 09:30 PM
Ugh another sack.

Hillsdale87
10-31-2022, 09:31 PM
Jonah just sucks tonight. Rest of the line has been good


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Wonderful Monds
10-31-2022, 09:31 PM
The line is still a disaster

The Operator
10-31-2022, 09:32 PM
Check downs are literally all they have outside of a few rare instances.

Roy Tucker
10-31-2022, 09:32 PM
Take the points Zak.

Wonderful Monds
10-31-2022, 09:32 PM
Jonah just sucks tonight. Rest of the line has been good


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I’m over Jonah. He gets blatantly beat waaaaaaay too often to be an acceptable blindside tackle.

Oxilon
10-31-2022, 09:32 PM
Seen enough of Jonah Williams

Wonderful Monds
10-31-2022, 09:33 PM
Are they really going for it on 4th and 9


Is our long snapper secretly injured again

The Operator
10-31-2022, 09:34 PM
Of course Shooter misses the kick.

Absolutely nothing going right.

Roy Tucker
10-31-2022, 09:34 PM
Been that kind of half.

The Operator
10-31-2022, 09:34 PM
Browns have good field position with time left

Wonderful Monds
10-31-2022, 09:34 PM
You have got to be kidding me.

Larkin90
10-31-2022, 09:37 PM
The only positive: maybe if we get completely embarrassed by the Browns in Prime Time on national television…mayyyybe…Mike Brown will wake up from his nap and actually make a trade to help replace Chase.

UKFlounder
10-31-2022, 09:37 PM
Whatever NFL guy decides to put the Bengals on prime time TV really needs a career change.

Roy Tucker
10-31-2022, 09:38 PM
Been that kind of half part 2.

Hillsdale87
10-31-2022, 09:38 PM
Chido is out. That's a huge loss


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The Operator
10-31-2022, 09:39 PM
And it’s a 2 score game. 11-0 Browns

Literally everything that could have gone wrong did. Lucky the score isn’t way worse.


Lou better do his thing and dial up some major halftime adjustments because they’re gonna need to pitch a shutout in the second half with how the offense is looking without Chase.

RiverRat13
10-31-2022, 09:40 PM
Chido may be done for a while.

Jonah is awful.

oregonred
10-31-2022, 09:47 PM
Reminds me of the Thurs night Halloween debacle in Miami a few years ago.

Jonah Williams. Wth?

Complete team fail in the first half

Larkin90
10-31-2022, 09:48 PM
Ravens just traded for LB, Roquan Smith, the NFL’s leading tackler. Must be nice.

Roy Tucker
10-31-2022, 09:51 PM
Jeez. And here I was looking forward to this game. Ugh.

Todd Gack
10-31-2022, 09:52 PM
Don't worry guys. We still have #1 receiver in Tee Higgins and a genius OC Zac Taylor who will bail us out in the 2H.

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Chido is out. That's a huge loss


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Bengals fans now realizing how important being healthy is part of making a run to the SB.

The Operator
10-31-2022, 09:54 PM
They’re just gonna run Chubb down our throats now.

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I’m sorry but this whole “push the pile forward” crap is stupid.

The forward momentum had been stopped.

The Operator
10-31-2022, 09:56 PM
Jesus

Sea Ray
10-31-2022, 09:57 PM
We're playing like crap

Wonderful Monds
10-31-2022, 09:57 PM
What the hell was that!

Wonderful Monds
10-31-2022, 10:00 PM
Getting very close to ditching this game. This is pathetic.

The Operator
10-31-2022, 10:00 PM
Lol.

Down 3 scores to Jacoby Brissett and the 2-5 Browns.

Roy Tucker
10-31-2022, 10:00 PM
Bengals are in big trouble.

Larkin90
10-31-2022, 10:01 PM
Brissett outplaying Burrow right now

Wonderful Monds
10-31-2022, 10:01 PM
They either score on this next drive or I’m out.

The Operator
10-31-2022, 10:01 PM
Brissett outplaying Burrow right now

We get it. You hate Burrow.

Roy Tucker
10-31-2022, 10:02 PM
They’re just gonna run Chubb down our throats now.

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I’m sorry but this whole “push the pile forward” crap is stupid.

The forward momentum had been stopped.

Refs seem to just let it go a couple times on that drive.

Sea Ray
10-31-2022, 10:04 PM
Getting very close to ditching this game. This is pathetic.

I just turned the TV off. I think I'll watch The Great Pumpkin Charlie Brown

I hope we don't get shut out

The Operator
10-31-2022, 10:04 PM
Refs seem to just let it go a couple times on that drive.

It’s happening all over the league and it’s ridiculous.

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Yet another drop

I’ll be impressed if they don’t lose 35-0

The Operator
10-31-2022, 10:06 PM
Sack. That’s it.


The rest of the NFL seems to understand The Browns aren’t good but The Bengals play them like they’re the 1985 Bears for years now.

Roy Tucker
10-31-2022, 10:07 PM
Bengals getting outplayed in every facet of the game.

Defense and offense come out of the half with a dull thud. Playing the Browns game.

Todd Gack
10-31-2022, 10:07 PM
They’re just gonna run Chubb down our throats now.

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I’m sorry but this whole “push the pile forward” crap is stupid.

The forward momentum had been stopped.

No one seemed to care when we pushed Burrow into the endzone in Baltimore.

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It’s happening all over the league and it’s ridiculous.

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Yet another drop

I’ll be impressed if they don’t lose 35-0

Who dropped it?

Wonderful Monds
10-31-2022, 10:08 PM
Yep that’s it I’ve seen enough. Time to spend the rest of my night watching horror movies. This is just sad.

Larkin90
10-31-2022, 10:08 PM
We get it. You hate Burrow.

Not at all. He’s our QB and he’s my fantasy QB (only needed Burrow + Boyd + McPherson to combine for 8 points to get a win, but that’s not looking good either). Was just a factual statement. Not saying that Brissett is a better QB, but he’s definitely playing better than Burrow tonight.

The Operator
10-31-2022, 10:09 PM
Getting outgained 272-95.


Absolutely embarrassing.

KronoRed
10-31-2022, 10:12 PM
Bengals are going to pull a Reds "getting these guys back will be just like making trades!"

The Operator
10-31-2022, 10:12 PM
This is absolutely pathetic.

Browns about to go up another touchdown.

The Operator
10-31-2022, 10:15 PM
25-0 Browns

Pathetic.

oregonred
10-31-2022, 10:15 PM
Was anyone actually expecting a Zac Taylor offense adjusting without Chase?

Roy Tucker
10-31-2022, 10:15 PM
Golly. Bengals getting their asses kicked. Browns just are having their way.

Really bad game for the Bengals.

The Operator
10-31-2022, 10:15 PM
At this point I’m only watching to see if they can avoid a shutout. Although, you could make a strong case to just pull Burrow and not risk an injury.

No way in hell they’re coming back.

Playadlc
10-31-2022, 10:17 PM
95 total yards.

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Chase clearly is this entire team.

Hillsdale87
10-31-2022, 10:18 PM
This season might be over if Chido is done. Our other CBs are a mess


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Wonderful Monds
10-31-2022, 10:18 PM
All things considered, like the context of the expectations for the Bengals coming off a Super Bowl appearance, how bad the Browns are playing a journeyman QB - this might be the most embarrassing game this team has ever played in my life.

The Operator
10-31-2022, 10:18 PM
Get Burrow out of there. He’s gonna get hurt.

ShyGuy
10-31-2022, 10:19 PM
Well the Browns did blow a 13 point lead with under 2 minutes left.... It's a team that always finds new and creative ways to lose.

Having said that very poor effort all around by the Bengals.

Roy Tucker
10-31-2022, 10:21 PM
Refs letting them play.

redsfandan
10-31-2022, 10:21 PM
I'm so glad the Bengals will have the same head coach . . . 4 years from now. :(

Playadlc
10-31-2022, 10:25 PM
Really hope we see some more 3.5 yard completions to Mixon. Fingers crossed.

CTA513
10-31-2022, 10:25 PM
I'm so glad the Bengals will have the same head coach . . . 4 years from now. :(

I fully support the Bengals firing him after the game.

Roy Tucker
10-31-2022, 10:26 PM
Bengals need to play hurry up.

The Operator
10-31-2022, 10:26 PM
Last year’s Super Bowl run last year is going to be a 2012 Reds type agonizing memory for me.

It’s so hard to get there. So, so hard. And they were there, with multiple chances to put the game away and lost. Even after they went down, they had Chase wide open having burned Jalen Ramsey and the o-line couldn’t hold up for even a play. What we’re seeing here tonight and this year is just how hard it is to get back.

Sigh.

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They avoid the shutout.

Woohoo!

UKFlounder
10-31-2022, 10:27 PM
Draft a kicker, huh?

The Operator
10-31-2022, 10:27 PM
Jesus

What’s going on with McPherson?!?

Roy Tucker
10-31-2022, 10:28 PM
Man. Missed XP. Just plain old missed it.

The Operator
10-31-2022, 10:28 PM
Not that it matters, we’re still down 3 TD’s and the defense is gassed but damn. Not his night.

Playadlc
10-31-2022, 10:29 PM
Games over anyway. But seriously dude. Make a kick.

Wonderful Monds
10-31-2022, 10:29 PM
Draft a kicker, huh?

Yeah it was obviously still the right call lol


But he is cursed tonight

Todd Gack
10-31-2022, 10:29 PM
Jesus

What’s going on with McPherson?!?

He's adjusting back to the mean?

The Operator
10-31-2022, 10:30 PM
25-10 if Shooter makes those kicks… still wouldn’t like our chances but that’s a big difference between 2 scores and 3.

Larkin90
10-31-2022, 10:31 PM
Man. Missed XP. Just plain old missed it.

Kid bought into his own hype. Doesn’t have the same mental makeup as a guy like Tucker who demands perfection.

The Operator
10-31-2022, 10:31 PM
Trae Flowers out now

The Operator
10-31-2022, 10:33 PM
Can’t stop them on 3rd down.

Hillsdale87
10-31-2022, 10:33 PM
It's wild watching actual good RBs


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RiverRat13
10-31-2022, 10:34 PM
Who was it that said they’d be fine against the run without DJ Reader?

The Operator
10-31-2022, 10:35 PM
Jesus

Roy Tucker
10-31-2022, 10:35 PM
So that’s the ballgame there.

The Operator
10-31-2022, 10:35 PM
Secondary is awful without Awuzie

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I’ll say it again. Burrow should be done for the night.

Roy Tucker
10-31-2022, 10:37 PM
Bengals getting their clock cleaned.

Wonderful Monds
10-31-2022, 10:38 PM
I’m back on the fire Zac Taylor train. Dude is an absolute clown.

Hillsdale87
10-31-2022, 10:39 PM
I can't believe I looked forward to this game all day. What a waste


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Hillsdale87
10-31-2022, 10:41 PM
I’m back on the fire Zac Taylor train. Dude is an absolute clown.

Maybe, but I feel like this one is on the players. Thomas drops an easy pass, OL sucks, Burrow doesn't seem to be seeing the field well. Total fail by everyone


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Redsfan6272
10-31-2022, 10:41 PM
They better be making some trades to upgrade or no way this team is any better than last year. The 1st two games they looked like they had not even practiced. Same for this week

The Operator
10-31-2022, 10:42 PM
Kevin Stefanski is To Zac Taylor what Bill Cowher was to Marvin Lewis.

Owns him. Lives in his head.

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Why the hell is Burrow still in this game? This is absolute malpractice.

Roy Tucker
10-31-2022, 10:44 PM
Maybe, but I feel like this one is on the players. Thomas drops an easy pass, OL sucks, Burrow doesn't seem to be seeing the field well. Total fail by everyone


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Yeah, that would be my call too. Players need to make plays and Bengals just haven’t done that.

Higgins for a TD but too late.

UKFlounder
10-31-2022, 10:44 PM
Nm

ShyGuy
10-31-2022, 10:46 PM
The Bengals have a way of making the Browns look like Super Bowl Champs whenever they play them.

The Operator
10-31-2022, 10:48 PM
Lol with the onside kick

Are we seriously pretending this game isn’t decided?

ShyGuy
10-31-2022, 10:50 PM
The Browns have actually been very poor of late with recovering onside kicks. The Jets game for example

Roy Tucker
10-31-2022, 10:51 PM
Bengals could use Kareem Hunt. Get some flash out of the backfield instead of the thud of Mixon.

The Operator
10-31-2022, 10:51 PM
Jacoby Brissett with a 134 passer rating and 278 through the air tonight.

Wow.

RedTeamGo!
10-31-2022, 10:52 PM
Lol with the onside kick

Are we seriously pretending this game isn’t decided?

It’s the browns. It’s not over until the final whistle

Betterread
10-31-2022, 10:52 PM
Tee Higgins pushed off with both hands on that TD. But I get it. He can’t get open without cheating. #1 receiver? No way.

RedTeamGo!
10-31-2022, 10:53 PM
Haha Brissett seems like a good dude. “I almost got you 55. Come blitz come blitz.”

Hillsdale87
10-31-2022, 10:53 PM
Bengals could use Kareem Hunt. Get some flash out of the backfield instead of the thud of Mixon.

I love the way Hunt runs


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CTA513
10-31-2022, 10:54 PM
People really have a hate boner for Higgins

Larkin90
10-31-2022, 10:55 PM
Jacoby Brissett with a 134 passer rating and 278 through the air tonight.

Wow.

And an hour ago, you gave me crap for saying that he was outplaying Burrow tonight.

The Operator
10-31-2022, 10:55 PM
And an hour ago, you gave me crap for saying that he was outplaying Burrow tonight.

No I have you crap because dating back to last year you’ve been all over Burrow any time anything goes wrong.


You literally said you’d rather have Tua than Burrow.

Larkin90
10-31-2022, 10:56 PM
People really have a hate boner for Higgins

Without Chase around, Higgins is very average. At best.

The Operator
10-31-2022, 10:56 PM
We’re gonna be 0-3 in the division after tonight.

Ouch.

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GET BURROW OUT OF THIS GAME ZAC!!!


I swear to god if he gets hurt…

RedTeamGo!
10-31-2022, 10:58 PM
I love the way Hunt runs


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Been saying the bengals should trade for Hunt for a month

The Operator
10-31-2022, 10:59 PM
Been saying the bengals should trade for Hunt for a month

Do we really think they’d trade him to a division rival?

Betterread
10-31-2022, 11:00 PM
Jonah Williams should be benched. He is not a LT for a playoff team.

Roy Tucker
10-31-2022, 11:00 PM
People really have a hate boner for Higgins

This brings forth a mental image I’d really rather not have.

The Operator
10-31-2022, 11:01 PM
Id take DeErnest Johnson over Mixon in a heartbeat.

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10 men on defense one play, 12 on the next


Just poor prep and execution everywhere tonight.

Playadlc
10-31-2022, 11:03 PM
What a pitiful effort. Seriously discouraged right now.

Roy Tucker
10-31-2022, 11:06 PM
That opening drive interception just seemed to deflate the Bengals. They were moving and I thought they were going to score. But then the turnover and then just downhill ever since.

This game is on Zak’s head. The team wasn’t ready and then didn’t respond to the challenge. Bad game by all things Bengals.

Larkin90
10-31-2022, 11:09 PM
I’ve always hated seeing these guys laughing and smiling on the sidelines and then hanging out with the guys on the opposing team after losing the game. I’d like to think that they’d at least be as mad about the loss as I am, but apparently not.

RedTeamGo!
10-31-2022, 11:23 PM
I’ve always hated seeing these guys laughing and smiling on the sidelines and then hanging out with the guys on the opposing team after losing the game. I’d like to think that they’d at least be as mad about the loss as I am, but apparently not.

Most of these players have known each other since they were in college, 7 on 7 leagues, high school, or even peewee. The world of elite football players is a very small world. They can be happy to see old friends they rarely get to see anymore and be mad they lost at the same time. During the game they are trying to kill each other. After the game you leave the game on the field and treat your opponents with respect. I’ve never understood this take. People always whine about poor sportsmanship. This is literally an example of good sportsmanship.

757690
10-31-2022, 11:24 PM
Looks like the 2022 Bengals decided to go as the 2019 Bengals for Halloween tonight.

OldFashionedRed
10-31-2022, 11:27 PM
The Bengals are done. Looking like a 9-8 team.

Betterread
10-31-2022, 11:27 PM
That Brownie the Elf logo is really big and really weird. Stands out in the current NFL super corporate world. Different is good.

RedTeamGo!
10-31-2022, 11:30 PM
That Brownie the Elf logo is really big and really weird. Stands out in the current NFL super corporate world. Different is good.

My theory is they are testing it out to see how Browns fans react and it becomes their logo.

Larkin90
10-31-2022, 11:30 PM
Most of these players have known each other since they were in college, 7 on 7 leagues, high school, or even peewee. The world of elite football players is a very small world. They can be happy to see old friends they rarely get to see anymore and be mad they lost at the same time. During the game they are trying to kill each other. After the game you leave the game on the field and treat your opponents with respect. I’ve never understood this take. People always whine about poor sportsmanship. This is literally an example of good sportsmanship.

I get all that. I guess I just want to see Burrow smashing iPads on the sidelines or throwing a water cooler or something. Pretty sure I get more upset about the losses than the players do, but I guess that’s on me.

RedTeamGo!
10-31-2022, 11:36 PM
I get all that. I guess I just want to see Burrow smashing iPads on the sidelines or throwing a water cooler or something. Pretty sure I get more upset about the losses than the players do, but I guess that’s on me.

You absolutely do not want your franchise NFL QB being a psychopath.

Larkin90
10-31-2022, 11:43 PM
No I have you crap because dating back to last year you’ve been all over Burrow any time anything goes wrong.


You literally said you’d rather have Tua than Burrow.

It was the very beginning of last year that I said that the Bengals would have been better off trading the #1 overall pick to Miami in exchange for all three of their first round picks and then use one of those picks to take either Tua or Herbert and the other two to improve the offensive line.

Burrow improved significantly as the year went on and I’ve been both surprised and impressed that the poor o-line play hasn’t completely ruined (Klingler-ized) him. I’ve openly said that I was wrong about him. He’s probably a top 5 QB right now. Definitely top 10.

But I don’t think he’s above criticism. In fact, that’s part of the “deal” for a QB. They probably get too much credit when things go good and they probably get too much blame when things go bad.

That being said, I think it’s fair to say that Burrow’s success, throughout his career, is more heavily tied to Chase than most would like to admit. And tonight, he was outplayed by Brissett. But I’m still not benching him in fantasy though.

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You absolutely do not want your franchise NFL QB being a psychopath.

Is Brady a psychopath?

RedTeamGo!
10-31-2022, 11:56 PM
It was the very beginning of last year that I said that the Bengals would have been better off trading the #1 overall pick to Miami in exchange for all three of their first round picks and then use one of those picks to take either Tua or Herbert and the other two to improve the offensive line.

Burrow improved significantly as the year went on and I’ve been both surprised and impressed that the poor o-line play hasn’t completely ruined (Klingler-ized) him. I’ve openly said that I was wrong about him. He’s probably a top 5 QB right now. Definitely top 10.

But I don’t think he’s above criticism. In fact, that’s part of the “deal” for a QB. They probably get too much credit when things go good and they probably get too much blame when things go bad.

That being said, I think it’s fair to say that Burrow’s success, throughout his career, is more heavily tied to Chase than most would like to admit. And tonight, he was outplayed by Brissett. But I’m still not benching him in fantasy though.

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Is Brady a psychopath?

How’s Tom Brady doing this year?

Ky Fried Redleg
11-01-2022, 12:17 AM
Last year’s Super Bowl run last year is going to be a 2012 Reds type agonizing memory for me.

It’s so hard to get there. So, so hard. And they were there, with multiple chances to put the game away and lost. Even after they went down, they had Chase wide open having burned Jalen Ramsey and the o-line couldn’t hold up for even a play. What we’re seeing here tonight and this year is just how hard it is to get back.

Sigh.

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They avoid the shutout.

Woohoo!



All of that is very painful to read but it is all so true. We were SO close to winning it all!!! You get very few of those chances. May be decades again.

Ky Fried Redleg
11-01-2022, 12:22 AM
The Bengals are done. Looking like a 9-8 team.

or maybe 8-9 .

oregonred
11-01-2022, 01:03 AM
Zac is 9-9 in the last 18 regular season games and a 35% win rate coach in his career.

That seems to be what they really are. A .500 team with a terrible play caller, oline scheme and an above average QB, elite WR in Chase and an above average DC.

10-7 best case, most likely 8-9 or 9-8

oregonred
11-01-2022, 01:16 AM
Sounding like Awuzie may be done for the year.

Reader, Chase and Awuzie missing significant time is a killer.

GAC
11-01-2022, 04:41 AM
I got my new Samsung 75" TV delivered yesterday, hung on the wall, and all set up. Yet still didn't watch the game (lol). But I got up this morning and thought I was transported into bizarro world seeing the blowout score, the Brown's defense dominating, and QB Brissett out-played Burrow, and had a Rating of 133.7.

This division is hopeless! LOL

Hillsdale87
11-01-2022, 07:17 AM
That opening drive interception just seemed to deflate the Bengals. They were moving and I thought they were going to score. But then the turnover and then just downhill ever since.

This game is on Zak’s head. The team wasn’t ready and then didn’t respond to the challenge. Bad game by all things Bengals.

That INT and the drop by Thomas on the second drive. Seemed like they had a rhythm to start the game, and then they just made mistakes that cost them


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The Operator
11-01-2022, 07:22 AM
They better make a trade to replace Awuzie today. The secondary is really exposed without him.

Assembly Hall
11-01-2022, 07:52 AM
Who Dey?

GAC
11-01-2022, 08:11 AM
I will say this.... I do have a lot of respect for Nick Chubb. I followed him while he was at Georgia. Ecstatic when the Browns drafted him (1st pick of the 2nd round). He's a young man of character.

Solid sideline video .... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPhdtOwazOw

and Hunt is available .... https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10053629-kareem-hunt-trade-rumors-browns-rb-available-for-4th-round-draft-pick-at-deadline