10-5-22 Reds vs Cubs 4:10

[Ron Madden]

Reds
1. Alejo Lopez (S) DH
2. Jake Fraley (L) RF
3. Kyle Farmer (R) 3B
4. Donovan Solano (R) 1B
5. Stuart Fairchild (R) LF
6. Spencer Steer (R) 2B
7. Michael Siani (L) CF
8. Jose Barrero (R) SS
9. Austin Romine (R) C
SP Graham Ashcraft (R)

Cubs
1. Zach McKinstry (L) 2B
2. Seiya Suzuki (R) RF
3. Patrick Wisdom (R) 3B
4. Ian Happ (S) LF
5. Franmil Reyes (R) DH
6. Nico Hoerner (R) SS
7. P.J. Higgins (R) C
8. David Bote (R) 1B
9. Christopher Morel (R) CF
SP Adrian Sampson (R)

[cumberlandreds]

One last go around before we put the bats and balls away for another winter. Even though its been a bad season its still sad to see another season go. Another mark in time for me as I grow older knowing the seasons I will experience are becoming fewer and fewer.

Thanks again Ron for all you did this season. You made a bad season much more enjoyable by posting these lineups everyday. Here's to a better 2023 season! :beerme:

[Tom Servo]

Reds
1. Jonathan India (R) DH
2. Jake Fraley (L) RF
3. Kyle Farmer (R) 3B
4. Donovan Solano (R) 1B
5. Stuart Fairchild (R) LF
6. Spencer Steer (R) 2B
7. Michael Siani (L) CF
8. Jose Barrero (R) SS
9. Austin Romine (R) C
SP Graham Ashcraft (R)



Reds
1. Jonathan India (R) 2B
2. Aristides Aquino (R) RF
3. Tommy Pham (R) LF
4. Joey Votto (L) 1B
5. Tyler Stephenson (R) C
6. Nick Senzel (R) CF
7. Mike Moustakas (L) DH
8. Kyle Farmer (R) SS
9. Brandon Drury (R) 3B
SP Tyler Mahle (R)


Congrats to India and Farmer for being the last men standing from Opening Day to Closing Day.

[Ron Madden]

Joel Luckhaupt
@jluckhaupt

Once Graham Ashcraft records his first out today, the Reds will have 3 first-year pitchers with over 100 IP.

That's something that has only happened 4 other times in MLB since 1949.

If Ashcraft can keep his ERA under 4.60, the Reds will be the first team with 3 first-year pitchers with 100+ IP and an ERA under 4.60 since the 1969 Expos.

[Roy Tucker]

One last go around before we put the bats and balls away for another winter. Even though its been a bad season its still sad to see another season go. Another mark in time for me as I grow older knowing the seasons I will experience are becoming fewer and fewer.

Thanks again Ron for all you did this season. You made a bad season much more enjoyable by posting these lineups everyday. Here's to a better 2023 season! :beerme:

I can be a melancholy day. It used to mean summer was over and fall was here. For quite a while, it also meant time to go back to school.

But since about 1995, it’s also a reminder that the Reds are a second rate club. They seem to approach being consistently good, but then drop back into a multi-year losing trench. Most of the time they seem to shoot themselves in the foot. Or a pandemic hits.

But here’s to looking forward to 2023. Maybe they’ll dhow some progress. My rational side says naaaaahhh, but my fan side gee maybe, you never know.

[elrojo]

Congrats to India and Farmer for being the last men standing from Opening Day to Closing Day.

That fact speaks volumes about the Reds' season. And the fact that Farmer will be named the Reds" MVP--hands down-- also
speaks volumes about this team.

[Ky Fried Redleg]

Reds
1. Jonathan India (R) DH
2. Jake Fraley (L) RF
3. Kyle Farmer (R) 3B
4. Donovan Solano (R) 1B
5. Stuart Fairchild (R) LF
6. Spencer Steer (R) 2B
7. Michael Siani (L) CF
8. Jose Barrero (R) SS
9. Austin Romine (R) C
SP Graham Ashcraft (R)

Cubs

SP Adrian Sampson (R)

[Ky Fried Redleg]

One last go around before we put the bats and balls away for another winter. Even though its been a bad season its still sad to see another season go. Another mark in time for me as I grow older knowing the seasons I will experience are becoming fewer and fewer.

Thanks again Ron for all you did this season. You made a bad season much more enjoyable by posting these lineups everyday. Here's to a better 2023 season! :beerme:



I say "ditto " to everything you said. Always sad to see a Reds' baseball season end, no matter how tough a season it was. I hope that guys like you, me, Ron, Mr. Tucker, Keefe, and others live to see at least one more Reds' deep dive into October for a championship run. Would love just one more title. Thanks again to all of those who contribute to the site and make it such a fun place to discuss Reds' baseball. GO REDLEGS!!!

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[Roy Tucker]

I say "ditto " to everything you said. Always sad to see a Reds' baseball season end, no matter how tough a season it was. I hope that guys like you, me, Ron, Mr. Tucker, Keefe, and others live to see at least one more Reds' deep dive into October for a championship run. Would love just one more title. Thanks again to all of those who contribute to the site and make it such a fun place to discuss Reds' baseball. GO REDLEGS!!!

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Thanks for all the lineups and the interesting discussions. Hopefully we all are blessed to be able to do it again next season.

Mr. Tucker is my dad. I’m Roy in the RZ universe. :beerme: :cool:

[Ky Fried Redleg]

Thanks to Ron for all the lineups and the interesting discussions. Thanks to everyone who participates on the forum and adds so much good information. Hopefully we all are blessed to be able to do it again next season. I look forward to seeing you all here to do it again in '23. Stay well, everyone.

[Ron Madden]

The end of the season is always bittersweet.
A time of mixed emotions, sadness of another season ending and eagerness to find the surprises next season is sure to bring.

[texasdave]

Rumors abound that they are bringing in this classy lady to throw out the first pitch. 18830

[SomeCallMeTim]

That fact speaks volumes about the Reds' season. And the fact that Farmer will be named the Reds" MVP--hands down-- also
speaks volumes about this team.

I think Ron should be MVP!

He was on the job more days than the Reds offense ever was.

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[Ky Fried Redleg]

I think Ron should be MVP!

He was on the job more days than the Reds offense ever was.

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Not only that, but the Reds scored more runs(20) in a game Ron attended this season than they have scored in the last week or more combined. We need Madden to be at more games to get that offense churning.

[Ron Madden]

Joel Luckhaupt
@jluckhaupt

Instead of a draft lottery, MLB should have an end of the season tournament between the non-playoff teams where the goal is to win the tournament to get the first pick.

[Ron Madden]

India has been scratched, Lopez is replacing him as DH and leading off

[Ron Madden]

Ashcraft gets the Cubs 1-2-3 in top of the 1st

[Sea Ray]

Congrats to India and Farmer for being the last men standing from Opening Day to Closing Day.

Not so much. I guess India's "not standing" after all

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I can be a melancholy day. It used to mean summer was over and fall was here. For quite a while, it also meant time to go back to school.

But since about 1995, it’s also a reminder that the Reds are a second rate club. They seem to approach being consistently good, but then drop back into a multi-year losing trench. Most of the time they seem to shoot themselves in the foot. Or a pandemic hits.

But here’s to looking forward to 2023. Maybe they’ll dhow some progress. My rational side says naaaaahhh, but my fan side gee maybe, you never know.

They'll show progress in 2023. There's nowhere to go but up

[SomeCallMeTim]

E6, sorry Barry.

[Bourgeois Zee]

Interesting fact about those 1969 Expos-- none of the three rookies had an ERA+ over 100 (indicated a league average starter). I'm not sure the last team to do that, if any.

The '68 Mets were really close-- Nolan Ryan had a 98 ERA+ his rookie season. Jerry Koosman and Jim McAndrew were both exceptional.

EDIT TO ADD: Doing the legwork, it looks like the 1944 Cincinnati Reds were the last team with three rookie starters to pitch 100 innings or more and enjoy an ERA+ of 100 or more.

27-year-old (and future MVP winner) Jim Konstanty, 32-year-old Tommy de la Cruz, and 26-year-old Arnold Carter were the last trio to do it.

Interestingly, it was de la Cruz's sole season in the big leagues and one of only two for Carter.

[Ron Madden]

Lopez fly out LF

Fraley line drive single to LF

Farmer fly out LF

Solano reaches on fielders choice, fielded by the SS, Fraley to 2B on the SS error.

Fairchild HBP bases loaded

Steer called out on a check swing strike 3, It didn't look like he swung at the ball.

no score after 1 inning

[Ron Madden]

Happ strikes out

Reyes single moves to 2B on WP

Hoerner walks steals 2B

Higgins walks

Bote hits a 3 run HR

Morel grounds out to 3B

Ashcraft has thrown 40 pitches

Cubs up 3-0 middle of the 2nd

[SomeCallMeTim]

3 for the Cubs should do it.

Looks like the last time Reds have scored more than 4 was 2 weeks ago against the Red Sox.

[Ron Madden]

Siani pops up to SS

Barrero works a walk

Romine bloops a single to RF, Barrero goes 1st to 3rd

Lopez strikes out

Pitch trickles a couple feet away from the catcher an Battery scores easily.

Fraley strikes out

Cubs 3
Reds 1

end of the 2nd

[Ron Madden]

McKinstry grounds out 2B

Suzuki walks

Wisdom fly out LF

Velazquez grounds out to 3B

Cubs lead 3-1 middle of 3

[Ron Madden]

Farmer fly out RF

Solano line out 1-3

Fairchild Triples to CF

Steer RBI Single, Fairchild scores

Pitching Change wit a 2-2 count on Siani
Alzolay now pitching for Chicago

Suzuki robbed Siani of extra bases with a leaping catch in RF

Cubs 3
Reds 1
end of 3

[Ron Madden]

Reyes pops out to SS

Hoerner fly out to CF

Higgins strikes out

Cubs up 3-1 middle of 4

[Ky Fried Redleg]

In the only 100+ loss season in Reds' history(up to this point) , the terrific Mario Soto was the losing pitcher in loss # 100. Mario ended the season with a sub 2.8 ERA and had 14 wins. Not bad for a team that had only 61 wins on the season.


Mario probably would have won 22 games that season had the team not been so anemic offensively.

[Ron Madden]

Barrero strikes out

Romine fly out to the wall in RF

Lopez little pop up to 1B

Cubs 3
Reds 2

after 4

[TheBigLebowski]

Watching this, for no other reason than it’s the last game of a miserable season, and I want to be certain it actually ends.

[Roy Tucker]

Watching this, for no other reason than it’s the last game of a miserable season, and I want to be certain it actually ends.

It’s too nice of an evening. Sitting on the patio drinking a bottle of pinot noir with the spousal unit.

Root the boys home for me, boys and girls.

[Ron Madden]

Bote pop up 1B

Morel strikes out

Mckinstry flairs a single to LF

Suzuki grounds out to 1B

Cubs lead 3-2 middle of 5

[NebraskaRed]

Miserable season or not, I'm watching this one because it's the last game of the year and I'll miss it when it's over.

[TheBigLebowski]

What’s our feeling on Fraley? Are we penciling him in as a starter in 23?

He’s been better than I expected. I’d be fine with it.

Team has far more exigent needs than upgrading from Fraley.

[757690]

That’s one of the coolest stories Welsh has ever told.

[TheBigLebowski]

We hear so many negative Pete Rose stories. Nice to hear the fun ones.

[NebraskaRed]

Really excited to see what Steer can become. He can be so patient at the plate.

[TheBigLebowski]

Really excited to see what Steer can become. He can be so patient at the plate.

One of the most important skills.

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Bah. Siani. Could have been a memorable day.

[Ky Fried Redleg]

What’s our feeling on Fraley? Are we penciling him in as a starter in 23?

He’s been better than I expected. I’d be fine with it.

Team has far more exigent needs than upgrading from Fraley.

Yes, I'm fine with Fraley for '23.

[NebraskaRed]

#4 in the division, #1 at leaving the bases loaded (not sure that's true, but who cares)

[Ron Madden]

Fraley strikes out

Farmer grounds a single into LF

Solano double down the LF line Farmer to 3B

Fairchild strikes out

Steer walks bases loaded

Siani pop up to SS ends the threat

Cubs 3
Reds 2

After 5 innings

[Ky Fried Redleg]

We hear so many negative Pete Rose stories. Nice to hear the fun ones.

I'm not able to watch the game. Could someone give me really short summary of the story?

[NebraskaRed]

I'm perfectly happy with Fraley being a starter next year. I don't expect the Reds to do much upgrading the OF too much. I think you'll see Fraley and Senzel, for sure. Not sure who else.

[Ron Madden]

That’s one of the coolest stories Welsh has ever told.

It is cool. He's told that story before.

[757690]

I'm not able to watch the game. Could someone give me really short summary of the story?

Welsh told about how he became a Red in 1986. He was without a team the day before spring training. He ran into Pete Rose, and Pete asked him who he was playing for this season. Welsh told him no one. Pete said, now you do, come to the complex tomorrow and there will be a uniform with your name on it. Welsh came to the complex the next morning and there was a uniform with his name on it.

Welsh asked him if the GM was okay with this, and Rose told him, “I run this team, if I say you are on it, you are on it.”

[NebraskaRed]

Bleh. Ashcraft gets upset and bad things happen.

[Ky Fried Redleg]

To give you an idea of how anemic the offense was for the '82 team :

'82: Scored 545 runs(last in NL) - 3.36 runs /game

'22 : Scored(so far) 648 runs (11th/15 NL teams) - 4.00 runs/game

[Ron Madden]

Ashcraft walks Higgins with the bases loaded.
4-2 Cubs

Bell gives Ashcraft the hook, Law now pitching for Cincinnati.

[Ron Madden]

Note hits 2 run double
6-2 Cubs not lookin good for the home team right at the moment

[SomeCallMeTim]

Bleh. Ashcraft gets upset and bad things happen.

True, but that will hopefully go away with maturity. Good to see he cares. Not phoning it in.

[Ky Fried Redleg]

Welsh told about how he became a Red in 1986. He was without a team the day before spring training. He ran into Pete Rose, and Pete asked him who he was playing for this season. Welsh told him no one. Pete said, now you do, come to the complex tomorrow and there will be a uniform with your name on it. Welsh came to the complex the next morning and there was a uniform with his name on it.

Welsh asked him if the GM was okay with this, and Rose told him, “I run this team, if I say you are on it, you are on it.”


Love it !!! Thank you so much . Love him or hate him , one must agree that Pete can talk baseball better than anyone. I could listen to him talk about the game all day long. The man's memory of specific at bats and plays 45 years ago is incredible.

[TheBigLebowski]

Well, with Siani and Almora, we definitely have solid CF defense.

Really hope Almora is on the team in 23.

[Red Raindog]

This team assembled by Bob does deserve 100 losses


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[TheBigLebowski]

This Law fella looks like the real deal.

[Red Raindog]

That was an emphatic blast


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[Ky Fried Redleg]

True, but that will hopefully go away with maturity. Good to see he cares. Not phoning it in.

I love it when players are passionate about their successes or failures. Win or lose...just show me you care !!!

[TheBigLebowski]

The mission to #100 is complete.

[Ron Madden]

McKinstry hits a 3 run Bomb

9- 2 Cubs

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Well, with Siani and Almora, we definitely have solid CF defense.

Really hope Almora is on the team in 23.

Almora was DFA'd

[SomeCallMeTim]

Hey Castellini’s.

We may not have anywhere else to go, but we would like to take this moment to tell you where THIS can go.

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[SomeCallMeTim]

Turning over to watch World News. It’s more positive.

[Ky Fried Redleg]

I wanted to avoid that 100th L(especially against the Cubs).

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Turning over to watch World News. It’s more positive.

LOL That's saying something, isn't it?

[Ron Madden]

Barrero strikes out

Romine ground out 2B

Lopez strikes out

Cubs 9
Reds 2
end of 6

[Ky Fried Redleg]

If ownership does absolutely nothing else in the offseason, I hope they spend some $ and buy us some decent bullpen arms. I know we have a ton of holes on this team, but at the very least, assemble a decent bullpen. It is so demoralizing to players and fans alike to take leads in a couple or three dozen games into the late innings only to see the lead evaporate like a ghost in a fog. Please fix the pen!!!

[Coopdaddy67]

That sums up the Reds season.

[TheBigLebowski]

That’s the perfect ending. Reds should just leave after that.

[dfs]

If ownership does absolutely nothing else in the offseason, I hope they spend some $ and buy us some decent bullpen arms. I know we have a ton of holes on this team, but at the very least, assemble a decent bullpen. It is so demoralizing to players and fans alike to take leads in a couple or three dozen games into the late innings only to see the lead evaporate like a ghost in a fog. Please fix the pen!!!

Agreed. The offense e is bad but the easiest way to improve this team it to improve the pen.

[Ron Madden]

12-2 with just 1 out in the top of the 7th

[ShyGuy]

They're going out with a bang... the Cubs that is

[Ron Madden]

Chris and Barry were talking at length about the need for the Reds to pitch inside yet Romine keeps setting up outside. I don't get it.

13-2 middle of the 7th

[durl]

Honestly, I'm cool with the Reds ending the season like this. I hope it causes ownership to do something.

[Rowsdower]

Pretty gangsta

[OldFashionedRed]

Well, at least we won't have to look at some of these guys next year. They've ensured their release. Put some guys in the bullpen, get some offense.

[NebraskaRed]

Pirates win so the Reds will end the season tied for 4th or for last, depending on how you want to spin it.

[Ky Fried Redleg]

Chris and Barry were talking at length about the need for the Reds to pitch inside yet Romaine keeps setting up outside. I don't get it.

13-2 middle of the 7th


Good name for Austin. His bat is is about as effective as a piece of lettuce.

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Honestly, I'm cool with the Reds ending the season like this. I hope it causes ownership to do something.

I doubt this makes them want to do something(other than laugh at us hardy fans).

[Ron Madden]

Fraley infield single

Reynolds walks

Aramis Garcia fly out RF

Fairchild walks to load the bases

Steer strikes out

Siani pop up to 3B

Cubs 13
Reds 2
after 7 innings

[NebraskaRed]

Third time this game that they left the bases loaded.

[Ky Fried Redleg]

We're pretty good at loading bases and then blowing said load.

[Strikes Out Looking]

May the ownership group have as an awful a winter as the fans have had a baseball season. #selltheteamBoob

[NebraskaRed]

We're pretty good at loading bases and then blowing said load.

Family board.

[SomeCallMeTim]

I doubt this makes them want to do something(other than laugh at us hardy fans).

Live shot of Phil:
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[Roy Tucker]

I guess they’re making #100 a no doubter.

[Ky Fried Redleg]

If the Reds comeback and win this one, I will buy a lucky RZ Reds' fan two tickets to the 2023 home opener.

The truck's on Votto. Tickets on me.

[Ron Madden]

This has gotta be the hardest game to watch of the entire pitiful season.

As Reyes knocks one out to RF to make it 15-2

[Ky Fried Redleg]

Family board.

I meant what I said. Hell, it's game #162. Surely my suspension wouldn't carry over into the '23 season. LOL

[NebraskaRed]

It would be an insult to the 2022 season if they won the last game. This is exactly how their last game should have gone.

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Last three relievers coming in with a +6 ERA is exactly right.

[Ironman92]

I just wanna say that I turned the game on in the 5th and it was 3-2

🤷🏻*♂️

[Ron Madden]

Barrero pop up to catcher

Romine strikes out

Lopez line out to SS

Cubs 15
Reds 2
headed to the 9th

[Ky Fried Redleg]

It would be an insult to the 2022 season if they won the last game. This is exactly how their last game should have gone.

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Last three relievers coming in with a +6 ERA is exactly right.




6 6 6 ...PERFECT way to end with this pen.

[Kc61]

Fitting way to end this Reds’ season.

[Ky Fried Redleg]

I will never EVER post a thread again after a 2 and 2 start , saying that I think the Reds will be better than expected. When I did that after the Atlanta series to open the season, they lost the next 20 of 21, or something. I take the blame for this monstrosity. Never again...

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Folks, just one last time. Thanks to all of you for making this season much more enjoyable than it otherwise would have been. Great people, great site. Thank you all! Hope to see you all next April. You're the best!!!

[Ron Madden]

The Cubs scored 6 runs in the 6th inning.

The Reds haven't scored 6 runs in any of their last 23 games

[Ky Fried Redleg]

The Cubs scored 6 runs in the 6th inning.

The Reds haven't scored 6 runs in any of their last 23 games

Incredible...

[Kinsm]

#sellthisteam

[Ron Madden]

Garcia fly out CF

Reynolds ground out1B

Fraley pop up 3B

THE END

[Ron Madden]

Box Score

https://www.mlb.com/gameday/cubs-vs-reds/2022/10/05/663131#game_state=final,game_tab=box,game=663131

[Reds]

This is what bottoming out feels like and I don't like it. just a really tough year all around

[SomeCallMeTim]

62.

Celebrate it for Judge.

Curse it for the Reds owners.

[Ky Fried Redleg]

62.

Celebrate it for Judge.

Curse it for the Reds owners.




That's why I call you Tim .


Goodbye, folks!!!!!

[Roy Tucker]

I’m hanging around for the off season.

[Ron Madden]

Joel Luckhaupt
@jluckhaupt

Reds fans, if you're trying to figure out for whom to root this postseason, here's a guide of former Reds on playoff teams' active rosters.

I'm only looking at people who had time with the Reds in the majors, not former Reds minor leaguers.

NL (games with Reds)
Braves: 749g • Adam Duvall, Raisel Iglesias, Jackson Stephens
Mets: 206g • Tyler Naquin, Mychal Givens
Phillies: 198g • Nick Castellanos
Padres: 166g • Brandon Drury, Brandon Dixon
Dodgers & Cardinals: 0 G • you shouldn't root for them.

AL (games with Reds)
Mariners:1633g • Eugenio Suarez, Jesse Winker, Curt Casali, Luis Castillo
Yankees:1169g • Aaron Boone, Aroldis Chapman, Wandy Peralta
Astros:509g • Dusty Baker (as mgr)
Guardians:102g • Terry Francona
Blue Jays:15g • Kevin Gausman
Rays:4g • Brooks Raley

[WVRedsFan]

Fitting way to end this Reds’ season.

so true. What a nightmare.

[cumberlandreds]

I was hating that I was going to have to miss the lastt game if the season. But after seeing the score last night I am glad I didn't have set through this one. Gee...just a fitting way to go out this year. Just really disgusting and demoralizing at the same time to see this franchise to descend to the depths that it has. I really see no way out either unless totally new owners come in. I am afraid that isn't happening anytime soon.