2022 Cincinnati Bengals - Part III

[Todd Gack]

In a way all these short-medium term injuries may be a blessing, as guys will be more fresh heading into crunch time, and we are plenty good enough to weather their time away. Honestly I thought ZT just rested Higgins the other week when he could have played, but he was thinking big picture.

That said, I'd probably be conservative and give Trey one more week than he thinks he needs. No need to rush him back right now.

I will give Zac and the staff with this this: I feel like he's pretty solid at managing player health. He sacrifices quality of play early in the season for long term health. Even with all these injuries occurring now, he seems to do a good job managing these things.

[Big Red Smokey]

From 0-2 to playoff berth clinched with 4 games to spare

[Sea Ray]

From 0-2 to playoff berth clinched with 4 games to spare

Bengals have 3 games left...but yeah, it is nice

[Stray]

Weird how even with an 0-2 start and a brutal schedule, I never really doubted that we'd make the playoffs. Of course we would, we have Joe Burrow.

[The Operator]

My hats off to this team. After the 0-2 start and with this schedule I can say that I, for one, was seriously questioning if they would go back to the playoffs.

Joe B is a blessing. The wide receiver corps is a thing of beauty. The line has come together nicely. Lou & the defense always find a way.

Let’s hope they’ve got another run in them, but this one goes all the way.

[The Operator]

Tee!!!

Nice opening drive!

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Shooter misses the PAT


6-0 Bengals

[KoryMac5]

Tip of the cap to Taylor for sending Karras out for the coin toss by himself...

[The Operator]

Defense works a 3 & out.


Nice start!

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Nice return past the 40…

Bengals regain the ball with excellent field position.

[The Operator]

Nice job escaping pressure on that dump off to Perine

[The Operator]

Irwin!!!!

Love that guy!!!

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Shooter misses yet another PAT


12-0 Bengals

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But we get another shot thanks to penalty and will go for 2 instead…

[Wonderful Monds]

Man uh, what’s up with McPherson this year

[The Operator]

2 point try is no good.


12-0 Bengals

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Man uh, what’s up with McPherson this year

Can’t help but wonder if he got high on his own supply with all that sudden fame last year.


Hope not. We need him.

[GAC]

Why didn't someone tell me the Bengals were playing? :mooner:

We were suppose to drive down to Ft Knox to visit daughter and first grand child for Christmas; but we postponed that till later in the week when the weather is more favorable to travel. ;)

MERRY CHRISTMAS everyone!

[The Operator]

Another 3 & out!!

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This Pats team seems like they’re about to collapse hard.

[pedro]

That catch by Irwin was big time.


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[GAC]

I guess NE QB Jones is not a popular man in NE right now lol

[pedro]

Reading the pregame comments on The Athletic and they mentioned that McPherson was uncharacteristically inaccurate in warm ups.


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[The Operator]

My god Irwin took a shot but hauled it in.

And we get more on a roughing call.

[GAC]

What a bush-league hit from behind on Burrow.

[Sea Ray]

Reading the pregame comments on The Athletic and they mentioned that McPherson was uncharacteristically inaccurate in warm ups.


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Let's give him another shot at an extra point

[pedro]

Irwin is impressive


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[The Operator]

Collins is down… uh oh

[Wonderful Monds]

That looks extremely not good for Collins

[GAC]

Not looking good on Tackle Collins. Not sure if it's ankle or knee?

[The Operator]

Apparently Zac spotted something before the play even started? Ugh.

[Wonderful Monds]

Well I’ll be damned, he actually walked off

[The Operator]

Adeniji replaces Collins…


That will be a story line going forward.

[GAC]

Do defenders tackle any more, or just try to strip the ball? lol

[The Operator]

How was that not passn interference on Chase?!?

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That’s fine we’ll just pick up all 17 on the next play.

[GAC]

Chase for the 1st down inside the 5 yd line. What a catch by Chase!

[The Operator]

Holding penalty wipes a TD by Mixon


Ugh

[WrongVerb]

Do defenders tackle any more, or just try to strip the ball? lol

Trying to strip the ball until the whistle blows is probably the mathematically better play.

[The Operator]

Bengals outgain The Pats 189-10 in the first quarter.

[GAC]

Trying to strip the ball until the whistle blows is probably the mathematically better play.

Really? I'd love to see some numbers, if they exist, on yards given up trying to strip the ball vs actually stripping the ball! lol

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FG department good. PAT not so good.

15-0 Bengals

[The Operator]

The drive stalls out but Crypto Mac hits the FG


15-0 Bengals

[WrongVerb]

Really? I'd love to see some numbers, if they exist, on yards given up trying to strip the ball vs actually stripping the ball! lol

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FG department good. PAT not so good.

15-0 Bengals

Yeah I don't have any insight there. I'm just speculating.

[The Operator]

Bengals D does the job again


Boo birds in New England

[The Operator]

Left knee for Collins

He’s obviously out for the remainder but I’ll be shocked if he’s not out for quite a while.

[KoryMac5]

Dehner said Mac was off in warm ups glad to see him hit the FG...

[The Operator]

Welp they’re getting a lot of pressure on Burrow, multiple hits, and now an INT.


Ugh.

[The Operator]

And the D gives up a 30 yard carry the first play.


This game ain’t over by any stretch.

[Sea Ray]

Sack!

[The Operator]

Defense rebounds nicely with a sack to force the punt from the 44.


Bengals take over.

[KoryMac5]

Reports that Bill O Brien might come back to NE next season...they need something as their offense is rough. Its Stevenson and nothing else.

[KoryMac5]

Burrow gave Boyd and earful after the pick first time I have seen that from Burrow

[The Operator]

Irwin again!!!!


THE LEGEND!!!

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PAT is good


22-0 Bengals

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Burrow gave Boyd and earful after the pick first time I have seen that from Burrow

Pretty well deserved from what I saw. He quit on it.


I know he’s nursing an injury but you can’t quit on plays if you’re gonna be on the field.

[The Operator]

Pats knee it after originally running a play


22-0 Bengals at the half

[pedro]

How can you not love a guy like Irwin coming in off the practice squad due to injury and elevating himself into a trusted contributor.


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[KoryMac5]

Burrow is unreal today...

[Sea Ray]

Pats knee it after originally running a play


22-0 Bengals at the half

Why the hell take a TO at 0:04 if you're just gonna take a knee? Not getting that

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Not a perfect half by any means but 22-0 don't suck...

[Tadasimha]

Not watching, just following the score updates. Feels like the Bengals are totally in control but probably left a td or two off the board. Glasses raised to another half like that, though!

[Sea Ray]

Too bad we're not getting much help from Atlanta today

[RiverRat13]

Not watching, just following the score updates. Feels like the Bengals are totally in control but probably left a td or two off the board. Glasses raised to another half like that, though!

Definitely left some points out there.

[The Operator]

Bengals get the ball back again around the 45.


I must have missed something after turning off the car and carrying gifts into my moms. The Bengals were driving well but then I turn mom’s TV on and The Pats have it. Was there a fumble? An INT?

[Stray]

missed first half and was following on phone. is mcpherson ok?

[The Operator]

Pats get a pick 6.


Ugh.


22-6

[Wonderful Monds]

Pats get a pick 6

And also miss the PAT wide right, hmmmm

[The Operator]

Mixon limping off the field…

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Well that was a disastrous series.


We’re letting them hang around…

[Wonderful Monds]

Don’t like them taking their foot off their throats here



The Pats have played horrendously but it’s still a Belichick coached team that you’re playing in Foxboro

[UKFlounder]

This week their one good half was the first one.

They really need to play well for an entire game.

[The Operator]

Pats marching right down the field now.


Here we go…

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TD Pats


That was a pretty bad series for the secondary.

[Wonderful Monds]

This sucks

[The Operator]

At least the Pats 2-pointer goes for naught.


22-12


Offense better figure things out.

[The Operator]

Why on earth would you kick when Mac is struggling like this?


Another busted drive. Very much a game.


22-12

[KoryMac5]

Higgins over 1000 yds on the season...

[Sea Ray]

Why on earth would you kick when Mac is struggling like this?


Another busted drive. Very much a game.


22-12

We're making just enough mistakes to make us sweat this one out

[Roy Tucker]

Why on earth would you kick when Mac is struggling like this?


Another busted drive. Very much a game.


22-12

Because it’s his job.

[Wonderful Monds]

Good lord McPherson

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Because it’s his job.

Eh still you gotta recognize when the guy is off. Pats also missed a PAT today, whether it’s the wind or extreme cold, the conditions for kicking in NE are atrocious today.

[GAC]

Dumping the ball just over the line under coverage will get you yardage

[The Operator]

That’s gonna be a catch.

Unreal.

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This feels like a Marvin era meltdown.


Hopefully this team proves me wrong as they’ve done many times this year.

[GAC]

Me thinks they over turn this. Helluva a catch.

[The Operator]

Need a takeaway here

[oregonred]

10 things needed to go wrong to let the lifeless NE O back in it and we're up to about #9 with 7mins left.

Good thing they have a playoff spot locked up...

[Hillsdale87]

I can't believe the Bengals are making me sweat out my -3 bet


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[GAC]

Heck ya that was grounding LMAO

[The Operator]

Zac’s challenging this??

Seems unlikely they call this a fumble.

[oregonred]

Good challenge to let the D reset. That looks like a possible fumble

[GAC]

I can't believe the Bengals are making me sweat out my -3 bet


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How's the weather/roads down there? I was suppose to come down to Fort Knox to spend Christmas with daughter who is stationed there, and had our first grandbaby, but roads were too bad up Ohio way (US75). We postponed till later in the week when its 50 lol

[The Operator]

Stands as called.

Not surprised.

[GAC]

That's ***********

[Roy Tucker]

That should be called a fumble but it is not according to the rules. Bah.

[RedsBaron]

That should be called a fumble but it is not according to the rules. Bah.

Agreed. It was a fumble

[The Operator]

LOL of course they gave up the Hail Mary.


Marvin era meltdown in full swing.

[Sea Ray]

How lucky

[Roy Tucker]

You gotta be kidding me.

[KoryMac5]

Looked like a fumble to me...

[Boston Red]

I can't believe the Bengals are making me sweat out my -3 bet


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Still alive. Lol

[The Operator]

Extra point is no good

22-18


Offense better get their ass in gear because this on is slipping away fast.

[Wonderful Monds]

Alright I’m turning this off. This is as bad of a meltdown as I’ve ever seen this team have.

[Roy Tucker]

Not a good day for XPs.

[Oxilon]

Laughable it’s this close. Need Burrow to end it

[Hillsdale87]

How's the weather/roads down there? I was suppose to come down to Fort Knox to spend Christmas with daughter who is stationed there, and had our first grandbaby, but roads were too bad up Ohio way (US75). We postponed till later in the week when its 50 lol

I'm in Detroit for Christmas, so not sure. Louisville is terrible with snow though, so roads are probably terrible [emoji1]


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[oregonred]

Have had an odd feeling about this for some reason with the crazy NFL season and Bellichick ghost.

Should have closed this out in the early 3rd quarter after complete domination.

3rd and short had been killer. The oline has been shaky on critical downs all day.

[Wonderful Monds]

Have had an odd feeling about this for some reason with the crazy NFL season and Bellichick ghost.

Should have closed this out in the early 3rd quarter after complete domination.

3rd and short had been killer. The oline has been shaky on critical downs all day.

Collins going down hasn’t been good

[KoryMac5]

Wouldn't be a Bengals game if it wasn't close...they like to make us sweat.

[CTA513]

Looked like a fumble to me...

Then followed by a pass broken up and caught by someone else for a td

[GAC]

But haven't the Bengals proven this year to be pretty resilient in situations like this? They're getting tested fer sur

[Wonderful Monds]

Either way, do NOT give the ball back to McPherson for the rest of the game. It’s a 4 down game for the rest of the day. He doesn’t see the field again unless it’s for a PAT.

[The Operator]

And now Chase fumbles.


We’re gonna lose this.

[Roy Tucker]

That’s not good.

[GAC]

Chase fumbles, Pats recover!

[oregonred]

10 things needed to go wrong to let the lifeless NE O back in it and we're up to about #9 with 7mins left.

Good thing they have a playoff spot locked up...
We'll we have had flukey plays 10, 11, 12 and 13 in the last 10mins since this post.

[The Operator]

This is pathetic.

[Wonderful Monds]

But haven't the Bengals proven this year to be pretty resilient in situations like this? They're getting tested fer sur

Ah nope

[oregonred]

3rd and 1 up 22 from the NE 31 seems three weeks ago

[Oxilon]

Still think they pull this out but good grief, did they forget there are two halves?

[oregonred]

PI on that?? And refs making sure NE stays in the playoff chase

[The Operator]

BS penalty there after the receiver begs for it.


Bill still gets love from the zebras.

[Roy Tucker]

That’s a BS hold call.

[The Operator]

This is disgusting

[oregonred]

In the NFl when everyone sings your praises. As a lifelong Bengals fan. Look out. Crazy stuff will soon follow.

[GAC]

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[oregonred]

3rd and 29 was insanely bizzarre bad luck but that can hapoen when you have 10 chances to close and poop the bed on 9 of them.

[oregonred]

D looks cooked but this one is on the offense, the INT gift TD by Burrow and failing to close it out.

[GAC]

I just can't believe the Bengals (Burrow) got shut out in the 2nd half?? Wow!

[oregonred]

Crazy. They were moving the ball at will between the 30s even in the 2nd half. The holdiing on 3rd and 1 and braindead INT (Oline completely broke down). Its been all downhill since

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Fumble?? Holy Foxboro

[The Operator]

They got the ball back!!!!!

[Roy Tucker]

Well now there’s a miracle for you if it stands.

[GAC]

Bengals recover fumble!!!!

[oregonred]

Holy Foxboro. Lol

[The Operator]

Von Bell and BJ Hill player of the game right here.

[oregonred]

NE has 3 TOs

[KoryMac5]

A Christmas Miracle!

[oregonred]

Bengals say hold me beer after a false start

[GAC]

If the Bengals can't eat 59 seconds off this board .....

[The Operator]

Why are we not trying for a first down.

[oregonred]

The false start is going to give NE the ball back on the NE 40 with about 40 seconds after the Bengals burn the Pats TOs

[The Operator]

Pretty weak play calling there when Bill had all his timeouts.

[oregonred]

Why are we not trying for a first down.

1st and 15 and deep in NE territory. Playing it safe with a 4 pt lead. Surprised we didnt see a safe pass on 2nd and 11.

Edit: bengals own territory

[The Operator]

I have zero faith we won’t give up a TD here.


Zac was playing not to lose on that offensive series. Stupid.

[KoryMac5]

Good punt

[oregonred]

Great punt by Dru in the clutch

[Todd Gack]

Gonna be hilarious if NE actually wins on a Hail Mary this week. (Not in a good way.)

[GAC]

4th and 10

[The Operator]

No flag!!!!

Phew…


Amazing that they managed to stop the bleeding.

[oregonred]

Gonna be hilarious if NE actually wins on a Hail Mary this week. (Not in a good way.)

Or not.

Game over. 11-4 the hard way.

[GAC]

Bengals hold on for 7th win in a row!

[Todd Gack]

Joey B's pick 6 was the worst throw of his career. Just horrid. Off the back foot and floating duck at that. We were up 22-0 at the time and the Pats were dead in the water. They then went to score on the next 3 drives (3rd one was their fumble late in 4th so technically not 3, but you get the point).

We were extremely lucky to win this and a good learning experience. None of these leads are safe.

[Stray]

A win is a win. Very ugly second half, but lets chalk it up to the weather.

[Wonderful Monds]

Thank god, what the hell was this game

[KoryMac5]

Would have been a long flight home...

Great job ripping that ball away...our defense has gotten so good at that!

11-4 with the Bills looming...

[Todd Gack]

Would have been a long flight home...

Great job ripping that ball away...our defense has gotten so good at that!

11-4 with the Bills looming...

Reader was the one who got penetration on that play and stood up the RB. His effort was incredible and deserves a lot of that credit.

[Roy Tucker]

Winning and losing is a binary state and that’s a W.

[pedro]

Ugly second half but a win on the road in that type of weather is still good.


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[Oxilon]

Lol not sure how a receiver gets by the secondary in that situation but better to be lucky than good, or so they say.

[UKFlounder]

Good enough to win today , but not good enough overall

They need to play an entire good game.

[The Operator]

Pretty awful second half but I’ll take the win. Man, would be nice to just run away with one every now and then.


In any event… Bengals win and maintain their 1 game lead in the North.

11-4

[KoryMac5]

Joey B's pick 6 was the worst throw of his career. Just horrid. Off the back foot and floating duck at that. We were up 22-0 at the time and the Pats were dead in the water. They then went to score on the next 3 drives (3rd one was their fumble late in 4th so technically not 3, but you get the point).

We were extremely lucky to win this and a good learning experience. None of these leads are safe.

NE still has one of the better defenses in the league plus they were at home...it wasn't going to be easy.

Bengals enjoy making our lives stressful.

[KoryMac5]

Initial tests show no ACL tear for Collins...MRI scheduled to be sure.

[Todd Gack]

NE still has one of the better defenses in the league plus they were at home...it wasn't going to be easy.

Bengals enjoy making our lives stressful.

I get that, but man, that's a bad INT. Something you wouldn't ordinarily see from a guy like him.

[KoryMac5]

I get that, but man, that's a bad INT. Something you wouldn't ordinarily see from a guy like him.

Even the great ones throw picks...it happens. Josh Allen who is a top 3 QB in the league is tied for 1st in INT's this season in the NFL.

The throw looks bad because Burrow expected Chase to be in a certain spot....when he's not there it looks bad.

[Tadasimha]

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Enjoy your holidays!

[Sea Ray]

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[Sea Ray]

At 22-0 at the half you say "OK, the only way we lose this is if a whole bunch of things screw up in the 2nd half; pick 6, hail Mary, turnovers, flags..." Pretty much all of those things did happen. We're lucky to get that win on the road given all that.

[Wonderful Monds]

Even the great ones throw picks...it happens. Josh Allen who is a top 3 QB in the league is tied for 1st in INT's this season in the NFL.

The throw looks bad because Burrow expected Chase to be in a certain spot....when he's not there it looks bad.

Yeah that pick was bad enough that it looked like a busted route more than a bad throw.

You should pick up the read a little better and not throw that pass when that happens, but it’s not all on Burrow.

[membengal]

So glad they are home for these last two. Nine road games out of 15 so far is a helluva thing. 6-3 in that is excellent. And they get an extra day to rest and get ready.

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Sometimes **** just happens. Awesome they found a way to make one last play and win it. I really had resigned myself that winning 7 in a row was a bridge too far and that luck was against them in the second half. Will happily take the W and let them learn from that.

[Wonderful Monds]

That definitely is a game the ghost of Bengals past loses 10 times out of 10

[Hillsdale87]

I get that, but man, that's a bad INT. Something you wouldn't ordinarily see from a guy like him.

I think that INT was just miscommunication. Burrow was trying to go back shoulder to Chase because of the blitz. Chase didn't recognize it and broke deep. The throw was fine IMO, just unlucky


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[WrongVerb]

CIN 22 - 18 NE
Final

That's Scorigami!! It's the 1075th unique final score in NFL history.

https://twitter.com/NFL_Scorigami/status/1606762887296475142

[membengal]

YIKES and thank goodness


The #Bengals flight from Boston had a failing engine so they landed at JFK and are changing planes as I tweet this, WOW

A person on board told me “A little rough but it was okay! Landed safely”

This really is a #Cincinnati Christmas Miracle

[UKFlounder]

“A little rough but it was okay! Landed safely”

The game AND the flight, I suppose

Glad it’s good news



YIKES and thank goodness

[Stray]

McPherson was apparently all over the place in pregame warmups too. Lets hope we don't have any super cold playoff games.

[Stray]

Mac Jones going knee hunting on that Pratt non-return is as dirty of a play as you'll ever see in the NFL. I'd be shocked if he's punished for it.

Edit for link: https://twitter.com/michaelFhurley/status/1606754556209238018

[GAC]

:thumbdown:

Everyone in the room at the time were saying they were choking it. LOL The main thing is - they didn't. ;)

[GAC]

The Bengals had not won in Foxboro since 1986. 36 years ago. ;)

The Bengals have another tough game coming up vs the Bills (at home) next week, who have run off six straight wins. That's why it was so critical for the Bengals, the last two weeks, not to slip up and lose a game (after the Ravens lost). If the Ravens continue to pull (eek) out victories minus Lamar, and the Bengals manage to lose vs the Bills, then it could very well come down to the last game. If it does, will Jackson play? Is Harbaugh holding him out as long as he can, letting him heal more, so that he may be ready for that last game?

It will be fun next week though, watching two of the NFL's premier QBs face off. First time I think.

[The Operator]

LOL this is going around after last night’s events with the flight:

[ShyGuy]

The game with the Bills should be the game of the year in the regular season.


I still believe the Bengals played a big part in Buffalo's success as a team today. With the Dalton to Boyd connection that helped break Buffalo's playoff drought in 2017. Without that play happening I'm not sure the Bills would have had the 2018 season they had which imo played all the ground work for where they are at now. This is the year they drafted Allen and cut Watkins and Dareus. I just don't believe if the Bengals didnt help the Bills break their playoff drought they would have the patience to go through a complete rebuild in 2018.


I do not say this to insult at all because I know Bengal fans have love for Joe Brrr. But you can't compare the affection Bills fans have for Josh versus what Bengals fans have for Joe. It is much more intense with the Bills fanbase. And imo it is unhealthy how much Bills fans worship him.


Nonetheless it sets up for a great match.

[membengal]

McPherson was apparently all over the place in pregame warmups too. Lets hope we don't have any super cold playoff games.

given how bad the pats kicker was as well, I am more inclined to chalk that up to the wind+cold being an extreme variable.

[membengal]

The Bengals had not won in Foxboro since 1986. 36 years ago. ;)

The Bengals have another tough game coming up vs the Bills (at home) next week, who have run off six straight wins. That's why it was so critical for the Bengals, the last two weeks, not to slip up and lose a game (after the Ravens lost). If the Ravens continue to pull (eek) out victories minus Lamar, and the Bengals manage to lose vs the Bills, then it could very well come down to the last game. If it does, will Jackson play? Is Harbaugh holding him out as long as he can, letting him heal more, so that he may be ready for that last game?

It will be fun next week though, watching two of the NFL's premier QBs face off. First time I think.

Even if the bengals beat the bills, if the ravens beat the steelers, it still comes down to the last game.

[membengal]

I do not say this to insult at all because I know Bengal fans have love for Joe Brrr. But you can't compare the affection Bills fans have for Josh versus what Bengals fans have for Joe. It is much more intense with the Bills fanbase. And imo it is unhealthy how much Bills fans worship him.

Bet you it is the same as here. How you all feel about Allen is how we feel about Burrow. 100%.

[ShyGuy]

Bet you it is the same as here. How you all feel about Allen is how we feel about Burrow. 100%.

Did the city put up a Super Man float yet devoted to him yet? Lol

https://www.wivb.com/bills-mafia-buffalo-fans/superman-josh-allen-sign-erected-in-buffalo/

[WVRed]

Bet you it is the same as here. How you all feel about Allen is how we feel about Burrow. 100%.

It’s different but similar:

The difference with Burrow is that he is local. If you are from Ohio (especially the Cincinnati area or closer) it puts you in a completely different lore.

I know it’s not the same sport but Burrow is in the same category as Barry Larkin and Pete Rose and he is just scratching the surface.

Bills Mafia is insane though. I loved the passion after we beat the Ravens that year to help them get into the playoffs. The donations to charities for Andy Dalton and Tyler Boyd were awesome and sending Buffalo wings to Cincinnati was cool too. The fans are nuts though to the point of a college tailgate (jumping on foldout tables).

As for Josh Allen, no doubt he is likely held in high regard in Buffalo. The Bills were a doormat during the Patriots dynasty long after Jim Kelly retired. With Burrow though and the Bengals it’s a different kind of love though from the fans here.

[membengal]

damn - Kelsey Conway twitter feed...


After passing the initial ACL on field exam yesterday, #Bengals starting RT La'el Collins underwent an MRI today and it revealed he tore his ACL and MCL.

His season is over, recovery is expected to be 7 months, a source tells me.

[The Operator]

Well that sucks about Collins. Hate that for him.


Let’s hope Adeniji can hold things down moving forward…

[WVRed]

damn - Kelsey Conway twitter feed...

If the Bengals are an early out in the playoffs, this (and other injuries) is why.

I know every team has injuries late in the season but I really hope that depth is addressed in the offseason. Doesn’t mean we have to have an all pro caliber player waiting in the wings but between FA and the draft there should be an opportunity to bring in some quality depth.

[Todd Gack]

I think that INT was just miscommunication. Burrow was trying to go back shoulder to Chase because of the blitz. Chase didn't recognize it and broke deep. The throw was fine IMO, just unlucky


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The best case scenario for that throw is that Chase would’ve played defender and batted the pass down. It was that bad.

And no one else stopped their route short either. All the receivers seemed to be on the same page.

[RiverRat13]

The Bengals have pretty much no cap space. If they had more, I’d be calling Whit to come pull an Eric Weddle.

[Sea Ray]

If the Bengals are an early out in the playoffs, this (and other injuries) is why.

I know every team has injuries late in the season but I really hope that depth is addressed in the offseason. Doesn’t mean we have to have an all pro caliber player waiting in the wings but between FA and the draft there should be an opportunity to bring in some quality depth.

The Bengals have shown amazing depth this year. The NFL is designed to make depth nearly impossible. Things like the 53 man roster, free agency after 4 yrs and the salary cap means no team can have adequate depth everywhere. It's near impossible. That's why health is so huge a factor in the NFL. I think rosters should be at least 60 if not 65 or 70. College football allows 84 scholarship players plus walk-ons and that's for a far shorter season and the hits aren't nearly as hard

[KoryMac5]

Sucks to hear about Collins, 2 huge ACL injuries this season with Chido and Collins. Doubt they sign anyone off the street they seem to have a next man up philosophy with Tobin and Taylor.

[RiverRat13]

Sucks to hear about Collins, 2 huge ACL injuries this season with Chido and Collins. Doubt they sign anyone off the street they seem to have a next man up philosophy with Tobin and Taylor.

Collins already has back issues. The Bengals need a better plan at RT going in to next year.

[The Operator]

The Bengals have pretty much no cap space. If they had more, I’d be calling Whit to come pull an Eric Weddle.

Any chance he’d come on a sweetheart deal or they could work some sort of fancy footwork to get him money outside the cap?


It would make my heart happy to see Whit end things as a Bengal - and snag another ring while he’s here.

[Wonderful Monds]

Mac Jones going knee hunting on that Pratt non-return is as dirty of a play as you'll ever see in the NFL. I'd be shocked if he's punished for it.

Edit for link: https://twitter.com/michaelFhurley/status/1606754556209238018

He was definitely trying to avoid getting blown up again like he did last weekend lol

[Hillsdale87]

Any chance he’d come on a sweetheart deal or they could work some sort of fancy footwork to get him money outside the cap?


It would make my heart happy to see Whit end things as a Bengal - and snag another ring while he’s here.

He was on Pardon My Take earlier this week and was joking about coming back a bit. Doesn't seem like he'd be too interested, but the Bengals should at least make a call


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[WVRed]

Anyone think the Bengals-Ravens game will be flexed to Sunday Night Football?

Two prime time games in a row at home with the division on the line.

[KoryMac5]

Anyone think the Bengals-Ravens game will be flexed to Sunday Night Football?

Two prime time games in a row at home with the division on the line.

Possible if it comes down to the division...

[RiverRat13]

Anyone think the Bengals-Ravens game will be flexed to Sunday Night Football?

Two prime time games in a row at home with the division on the line.

I would guess Jags-Titans because that will be win or go home.

[Stray]

He was definitely trying to avoid getting blown up again like he did last weekend lol

Eh maybe if he just went down to take himself out of the play. He kinda glanced back and caught Apple coming and fell into his knees. Fine if Eli had the ball, but he was trailing and outta the play. Dirty play.

[Bob Sheed]

I'd bet Whit would come in if the right offer was there.

And I'd bet the Bengals could get creative with bonuses to make it worthwhile for Whit to do so.

The Bengals front office has never done anything even close to this though.

[membengal]

Yo, Whit retired while still under contract with the Rams. He's not free to just up and sign anywhere else. And trade deadline has passed.

[membengal]

Just Eric
@JUSTERIC__
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53m
The Bengals are on a 7 game win streak

The Bills are on a 6 game win streak ..

Josh Allen:

Pass Yds: 4,029 TD 32. INT: 13

Joe Burrow:

Pass Yds: 4,260 TD 34 INT 12

Clash Of The Titans incoming

[KoryMac5]

Yo, Whit retired while still under contract with the Rams. He's not free to just up and sign anywhere else. And trade deadline has passed.

yep he would not be a FA until 2023 according to the information I looked at...

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PFF numbers from NE

Joe Burrow - 89.2
Logan Wilson - 84.7
DJ Reader - 82.7
Cameron Sample - 76.8
Joe Mixon - 74.9

[Todd Gack]

ust Eric
@JUSTERIC__
·
53m
The Bengals are on a 7 game win streak

The Bills are on a 6 game win streak ..

Josh Allen:

Pass Yds: 4,029 TD 32. INT: 13

Joe Burrow:

Pass Yds: 4,260 TD 34 INT 12

Clash Of The Titans incoming

The difference in those numbers is that all of Allen's Interceptions were his fault and none of Joe's were his.

[goreds2]

Anyone think the Bengals-Ravens game will be flexed to Sunday Night Football?

Two prime time games in a row at home with the division on the line.

Steelers / Ravens this Sunday night.

[membengal]

The NFL already is guaranteed a win and in week 18 game between the Jags and Titans regardless of what happens with those teams in week 17. I would imagine they would just go ahead and grab that one.

[ShyGuy]

It’s different but similar:

The difference with Burrow is that he is local. If you are from Ohio (especially the Cincinnati area or closer) it puts you in a completely different lore.

I know it’s not the same sport but Burrow is in the same category as Barry Larkin and Pete Rose and he is just scratching the surface.

Bills Mafia is insane though. I loved the passion after we beat the Ravens that year to help them get into the playoffs. The donations to charities for Andy Dalton and Tyler Boyd were awesome and sending Buffalo wings to Cincinnati was cool too. The fans are nuts though to the point of a college tailgate (jumping on foldout tables).

As for Josh Allen, no doubt he is likely held in high regard in Buffalo. The Bills were a doormat during the Patriots dynasty long after Jim Kelly retired. With Burrow though and the Bengals it’s a different kind of love though from the fans here.

I'm not as familiar with the Bengals fan base as Buffalo... but they seem to have a healthier attitude with fandom toward Joe B

I've always loved and respected the Buffalo fanbase during the 17 year playoff drought. I was at the stadium twice those years and it was still full of overly loyal and passionate fans.

But the over obsession with JA #17 and their new stadium deal putting a lot on tax payer money instead of their billionaire owner made me wane on them a bit.

Nonetheless the match up a week from today between the 2 queen cities should be fun as hell

[Wonderful Monds]

Yo, Whit retired while still under contract with the Rams. He's not free to just up and sign anywhere else. And trade deadline has passed.

Would they really hold him to it if he requested a release though? They don’t have any use for him at this point.

[Sea Ray]

Would they really hold him to it if he requested a release though? They don’t have any use for him at this point.

Sure they would. They'd hold out for compensation from the Bengals. Furthermore I don't think Whit has much experience at RT. I don't see this as a fit

[membengal]

Would they really hold him to it if he requested a release though? They don’t have any use for him at this point.

Still waivers. Any team could block a bengals claim by claiming him. We are low on the waiver priority list now.

[plantmanky]

Addition by subtraction with Collins out.

[Todd Gack]

Addition by subtraction with Collins out.

I mean, I'm ashamed I didn't say it first but Collins was never that good anyway especially in the passing game. Better than Adeniji, but our depth will be tested.

[Hillsdale87]

The NFL already is guaranteed a win and in week 18 game between the Jags and Titans regardless of what happens with those teams in week 17. I would imagine they would just go ahead and grab that one.

Possibly, but I'm not sure the NFL wants Malik Willis in a standalone game. I would imagine there would be a lot more national interest in a Lamar-Burrow matchup even if it's not a win and in matchup


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[WVRed]

Possibly, but I'm not sure the NFL wants Malik Willis in a standalone game. I would imagine there would be a lot more national interest in a Lamar-Burrow matchup even if it's not a win and in matchup


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My understanding is there are going to be games on New Years Eve as well. Tennessee and Jacksonville could be flexed there.

Depending on how next week shapes up the Bengals-Ravens could have a major implication on seeding. If the Bengals pull it off next week against Buffalo and the Chiefs lose to Denver next week the Bengals could be playing for the top overall seed.

On that note, is there a preferred matchup in the division round if the Bengals don’t get the no 1 overall seed?

The Chargers I think could be a matchup problem. They blew the Bengals out last year in Cincinnati and that was without Khalil Mack.

Miami seems to be in a free fall and the Bengals already won and did well against them so that would be my pick. (Assuming they even make it)

[RiverRat13]

If the Bengals win and the Ravens lose this week, I’d expect Baltimore to rest it’s starters in Week 18.

[Hillsdale87]

My understanding is there are going to be games on New Years Eve as well. Tennessee and Jacksonville could be flexed there.

Depending on how next week shapes up the Bengals-Ravens could have a major implication on seeding. If the Bengals pull it off next week against Buffalo and the Chiefs lose to Denver next week the Bengals could be playing for the top overall seed.

On that note, is there a preferred matchup in the division round if the Bengals don’t get the no 1 overall seed?

The Chargers I think could be a matchup problem. They blew the Bengals out last year in Cincinnati and that was without Khalil Mack.

Miami seems to be in a free fall and the Bengals already won and did well against them so that would be my pick. (Assuming they even make it)

Of the wild card teams, I'd rank my preference as Dolphins, Ravens, Chargers.

Dolphins seem to have been figured out a bit recently.

Ravens just don't seem to be very good, but the defense has been better. I know getting Lamar back will help, but it was ugly before he went down.

Chargers are the scariest to me because of Herbert. They have not looked good on offense all year, but he gives them the highest ceiling and their defense has been good recently


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[RiverRat13]

If the Bengals, Chiefs, and Steelers win out, the Dolphins lose out, the Jets lose to Seattle in Week 17, and Buffalo beats NE in Week 18...

you'd have Pittsburgh at Cincinnati as the 7/2 matchup.

[KoryMac5]

Collins full value was in the run game he and Cappa are road graders…Adeneji ain’t that.

If I was the Bengals I would be dialing up Daryl Williams didn’t realize he was unsigned…Had a ew good seasons in Buffalo.

[Sea Ray]

Anyone know how Adeniji rated per PFF grades in the NE game?

[Redsfaithful]

If the Bengals, Chiefs, and Steelers win out, the Dolphins lose out, the Jets lose to Seattle in Week 17, and Buffalo beats NE in Week 18...

you'd have Pittsburgh at Cincinnati as the 7/2 matchup.

So many moving parts here but Tua is back in concussion protocols, could be out for the next two weeks.

Outside of being the #1 I think this might be our best case scenario, albeit one of the more unlikely.

[plantmanky]

I mean, I'm ashamed I didn't say it first but Collins was never that good anyway especially in the passing game. Better than Adeniji, but our depth will be tested.

The play he got hurt on he was blocking air.

[KoryMac5]

Anyone know how Adeniji rated per PFF grades in the NE game?

PFF had him charted at 8 pass blocking losses which ain't good...for the year he has a 52.4 grade. The only reason Burrow didn't get sacked was because he got rid of the ball so quick.

Collins could at least take up space...Adeneji is a turnstile.

[Wonderful Monds]

So many moving parts here but Tua is back in concussion protocols, could be out for the next two weeks.

Outside of being the #1 I think this might be our best case scenario, albeit one of the more unlikely.

I’m not afraid of Pittsburgh anymore, but I am worried they’d play dirty and injure one of our key guys if we played them in the postseason.

[Kingspoint]

Fantastic arctile written by Hobson....an interview with Anderson and Whitworth about what they've seen from Adeniji, what they expect from here out, who are the likely individual opponents he'll have to face, a history of Adeniji's football career, and more. One of the best articles I've seen Hobson put together regarding relevance.

https://www.bengals.com/news/bengals-offensive-line-looks-to-keep-the-good-times-rolling-with-next-man-up

[Sea Ray]

PFF had him charted at 8 pass blocking losses which ain't good...for the year he has a 52.4 grade. The only reason Burrow didn't get sacked was because he got rid of the ball so quick.

Collins could at least take up space...Adeneji is a turnstile.

Yep, he'd better up his game

[Kingspoint]

Hurst is back in time. May mean less time for Boyd and Irwin so that we can put two TE's on the line.

Blimey! Less Irwin?! That'll scare ya!

Should also mean more Perine in the backfield and less Mixon.

All of this, of course, just for the Buffalo game as Adeniji is going to need a ton of help in that one. Won't be so bad against Baltimore and he may be left to handle that side of it by himself, just so they can see his mistakes. But, I wouldn't chance it against the Bills and it's much more difficult Left Defensive Side of their D-Line, if only for Burrow's sake. Can't risk losing him just so we can see if Adeniji can handle things by himself (which we all know that he can't for a whole game against the Bills).

Jonah better do his job because Burrow will be paying extra attention to what's coming from the right side against the Bills. And, Adeniji better get into the chest of his opponent to keep him from batting down passes. He's terrible at not doing this, and it will cost a turnover, if not a pick-6.

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We also didn't score in the 2nd Half against New England. Not a coincidence. All it takes is one rushed throw by Burrow on a 3rd Down that ends a drive.

[Kingspoint]

Out of 64 possible Starting Tackles in the NFL, PFF has Collins rated as the 13th best "Overall". He's #4 ranked of:

TIER 4: VERY GOOD STARTERS

13. La’el Collins, Cincinnati Bengals

Collins represents the Bengals' biggest addition in their offseason efforts to rebuild their offensive line and do a better job of protecting Joe Burrow moving forward.

The former Cowboys right tackle certainly offers a higher floor in pass protection than the Riley Reiff–Isaiah Prince combination that Cincinnati had at their disposal last season, but Collins is going to add the most of his value in the run game. His last two seasons in 2019 and 2021 both resulted in PFF run-blocking grades above 89.0.



But, of course, this article was from May 11th, 2022.

Jonah Williams did not make the Top-32 (but honorable mention after that).


Collins was definitely an upgrade over anyone else we had, so it was still a good Free Agent signing. It's just too bad we don't have his run-blocking for these last two games and the playoffs.

[WrongVerb]

Andrew Siciliano
@AndrewSiciliano

Bills - Bengals, on paper, might be the best MNF game EVER.

The two teams have combined for 23 wins, tied for the ever (SF/DEN '97) since we started playing on Monday nights in 1970.

@NFLResearch
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[membengal]

This is a really terrific point from Dehner and something I should have remembered but is easy to forget in his column in the Athletic today:


During the season, Collins wouldn’t practice on Wednesdays as the team managed his injuries. That process opened the door for Adeniji to step in for those practices and load up on reps with the first team at right tackle. Wednesday practices aren’t particularly intense, relative to the more physical Thursday sessions, but they went a long way to building cohesion and staying fresh at the position if he needed to step in.

“A hundred percent,” Adeniji said. “It’s a natural transition. I get that work with (right guard Alex Cappa) and we kind of develop that chemistry. There’s been no doubt that’s been helpful throughout the course of the year.”

[Kingspoint]

This is a really terrific point from Dehner and something I should have remembered but is easy to forget in his column in the Athletic today:

That is hugely important. Perhaps it helps explain why he didn't give up a sack in his 153 limited snaps this season (yes, the main reason is Burrow getting rid of the ball faster since Week 3), and Adeniji played both LT and RT in those snaps.

[Betterread]

Don’t be stupid. Adenji sucks, Collins sucks. The Bengals OL is as talent deficient as it was earlier in the year. The difference is that they are getting better at holding and not getting penalized for it. When you get to the playoffs and the refs let everyone cheat, Bengals will have an advantage due to their assiduous practice at it. Like everyone on the board says, you are tired of losing, so winning, no matter how, is the key thing. Or maybe you will be like GB and cheat and hold all year, only to find out when both teams do it, you don’t get the same advantage and it’s not as fun when the other team gets to cheat as much as you.

[membengal]

Guess time to revisit the block list. Well earned block.

[Big Red Smokey]

Guess time to revisit the block list. Well earned block.

Normally I can guess a Todd Gack post. Was shocked it wasn't him.

Love this.

David Fulcher is still probably my favorite all-time Bengal

https://twitter.com/Bengals/status/1608539734309228544?s=20

[Stray]

Gonna be fun to see how we stack up against the Bills. Really looking forward to this one.

[KoryMac5]

Isaiah Prince may get the start this week…or rotate with Adeneji. Prince has been getting a ton of work with the ones. Hubbard has been back at practice too.

[Redsfaithful]

No Lamar Jackson again this week. Would be great to be playing for the division Monday night.

[RiverRat13]

No Lamar Jackson again this week. Would be great to be playing for the division Monday night.

If they pull of the clinch this weekend, I would imagine Lamar won’t play in Cincinnati as the game would just be for seeding.

[WVRed]

If they pull of the clinch this weekend, I would imagine Lamar won’t play in Cincinnati as the game would just be for seeding.

Here’s the dilemma if you are a Bengals fan:

If the Bengals win Monday night they could be playing for the no 1 overall seed in the playoffs.

If they lose to the Ravens then they are likely playing them again in the division round a week later.

Do you play everyone and try to win the division knowing if you lose and seeding works the way it could you could be playing the same team a week later for the third time this season and you’ve given them a lot of film to plan against?

[Redhook]

Here’s the dilemma if you are a Bengals fan:

If the Bengals win Monday night they could be playing for the no 1 overall seed in the playoffs.

If they lose to the Ravens then they are likely playing them again in the division round a week later.

Do you play everyone and try to win the division knowing if you lose and seeding works the way it could you could be playing the same team a week later for the third time this season and you’ve given them a lot of film to plan against?

Yes, getting the highest seed possible and a home game is better than the alternative.

[WrongVerb]

I rest everyone next Sunday if: the Bengals beat Buffalo, the Ravens lose to Pittsburgh, and the Chiefs win. In that scenario the Bengals will be the 2 seed, and can only get the top seed if KC beats a Carr-less Raiders team.

[membengal]

I rest everyone next Sunday if: the Bengals beat Buffalo, the Ravens lose to Pittsburgh, and the Chiefs win. In that scenario the Bengals will be the 2 seed, and can only get the top seed if KC beats a Carr-less Raiders team.

No, would still need a win over ravens to secure 2-seed if beat bills Monday. If bengals win Monday that would leave them with same record as Buffalo and the head to head tie-breaker but would need to win week 18 to hold the two…

[Boss-Hog]

No, would still need a win over ravens to secure 2-seed if beat bills Monday. If bengals win Monday that would leave them with same record as Buffalo and the head to head tie-breaker but would need to win week 18 to hold the two…Agreed. It's hard for me to find a scenario where the Bengals don't have something to play for in week 18 and can afford to sit the players they want to rest.

[WVRed]

Agreed. It's hard for me to find a scenario where the Bengals don't have something to play for in week 18 and can afford to sit the players they want to rest.

At the same time, knowing you could be playing Baltimore again the following week feels like a trap.

It kinda reminds me of the Jets in 2009 when we played them in NY to end the season and they were so vanilla and showed them nothing yet got waxed by them in the divisional round a week later when they were playing for something.

The higher the seed though the better the chances of playing a team like Miami who looks like an implosion waiting to happen.

[Redhook]

At the same time, knowing you could be playing Baltimore again the following week feels like a trap.

It kinda reminds me of the Jets in 2009 when we played them in NY to end the season and they were so vanilla and showed them nothing yet got waxed by them in the divisional round a week later when they were playing for something.

The higher the seed though the better the chances of playing a team like Miami who looks like an implosion waiting to happen.

The Bengals ceiling is winning the Super Bowl, obviously, and getting the highest seed increases their chances of that. If they were to get the #2 seed, playing the Bills at home is a huge advantage compared to playing them in Buffalo. Furthermore, if the Chiefs somehow lose, the Bengals would have the opportunity to host the AFC Championship game. This current team’s ceiling is so high that I’m not worried about the floor….who they’re playing in the first round. Now, with that said, I was very worried about that last year since getting over the hump of winning just one playoff game was a big deal.

[Boss-Hog]

At the same time, knowing you could be playing Baltimore again the following week feels like a trap.

It kinda reminds me of the Jets in 2009 when we played them in NY to end the season and they were so vanilla and showed them nothing yet got waxed by them in the divisional round a week later when they were playing for something.

The higher the seed though the better the chances of playing a team like Miami who looks like an implosion waiting to happen.

That scenario in 2009 was different in that the Jets' playoff hopes were on the line in that game while the Bengals didn't have anything to play for, and the game played out as such. They were purposefully vanilla in that game for that reason, and it's impossible to know how, if at all, it affected the Wild Card Round game (I assume you meant that instead of Divisional Round). This year, neither the Bengals' or Ravens' playoff hopes will be on the line, though the division championship quite possibly will be pending this week's results since it guarantees the winner at least one home game. Either way, the Bengals will have something to play for in week 18. I just don't see the threat of a rematch with Baltimore in the Wild Card Round as that big of a deal. Honestly, I'd be fine with that matchup regardless of next Sunday's result, and any sort of concern of their familiarity with the Bengals applies just as much to the Ravens' familiarity to the Bengals.

I agree with your point in the value of the 2 seed (possible matchup against Miami or whoever gets in as the 7) plus the advantage of hosting the Divisional Round and chance of hosting the AFC Championship.

[Bob Sheed]

I think the Bengals can win out on through the Super Bowl. This season, the Bengals offense is in a unique position they have only been in a few of times since I have been watching them. The 88 team, the 05 team and whatever that year was with Dalton when he looked like an MVP before he got hurt:

Many times, even when the other team knows what is coming, they still can't stop it.

That's a nice problem to have. And this team is (relatively) healthy too. It's the NFL, so anything can happen. But I see no reason why they can't run the table at this point, regardless of seeding.

[WrongVerb]

No, would still need a win over ravens to secure 2-seed if beat bills Monday. If bengals win Monday that would leave them with same record as Buffalo and the head to head tie-breaker but would need to win week 18 to hold the two…

Ah good point.

[Sea Ray]

No Lamar Jackson again this week. Would be great to be playing for the division Monday night.

You got that right, man :thumbup:

[WVRed]

Nice of Mixon to give the Bills bulletin board material:

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/35353953/big-dog-afc

[Bob Sheed]

Nice of Mixon to give the Bills bulletin board material:

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/35353953/big-dog-afc

Taken out of context, maybe...

[Stray]

Beat the Bills and we take the North. I like it.

[RiverRat13]

Beat the Bills and we take the North. I like it.

There’s no scenario where the Bengals can rest their starters next week, but if they beat the Bills, the Ravens will have nothing really to play for and may rest theirs.

[Stray]

Nice of Mixon to give the Bills bulletin board material:

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/35353953/big-dog-afc

Eh, I doubt it. We're AFC champs and it's perfectly fine for us to act like it. I don't think either team needs bulletin material at this point, but even if Buffalo did this isn't it. We're the Champs till they knock us off. He's just stating a fact.

[Stray]

There’s no scenario where the Bengals can rest their starters next week, but if they beat the Bills, the Ravens will have nothing really to play for and may rest theirs.

I dunno all the scenarios, but obv we gotta play for the 1/2, but if we win tomorrow the 2 is right there right? We know we can go to KC and win. But I do not wanna have to go to Buffalo. Let's just keep the winning streak going into February lol.

[Boss-Hog]

I dunno all the scenarios, but obv we gotta play for the 1/2, but if we win tomorrow the 2 is right there right? We know we can go to KC and win. But I do not wanna have to go to Buffalo. Let's just keep the winning streak going into February lol.If the Bengals win tonight, they control their own destiny for the two seed (or one seed if KC loses to LV next week). Alternatively, they could also get the two seed with a win tonight and both the Bengals and Bills lose next Sunday.

[Fil3232]

“THEY GOTTA PLAY US”

I love that rallying cry for this team this year. Bengals marketing killing it with a great preview video on their Instagram today.

[Kilgore_Trout]

I’ll be there tonight! Hoping to see a clinch. Who Dey!

[Stray]

Hubbard is out, which I expected. We've given guys one extra week all season long.

[The Operator]

At 996 posts it’s time to start a new thread.


Please continue here:

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