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Ron Madden
03-30-2023, 11:15 AM
Reds
1. Jonathan India (R) 2B
2. TJ Friedl (L) CF
3. Jake Fraley (L) DH
4. Tyler Stephenson (R) C
5. Jason Vosler (L) 1B
6. Wil Myers (R) RF
7. Spencer Steer (R) 3B
8. Will Benson (L) LF
9. Jose Barrero (R) SS
P. Hunter Greene (R)

Pirates
1. Oneil Cruz (L) SS
2. Bryan Reynolds (S) LF
3. Andrew McCutchen (R) DH
4. Carlos Santana (S) 1B
5. Canaan Smith-Njigba (L) RF
6. Ke'Bryan Hayes (R) 3B
7. Jack Suwinski (L) CF
8. Ji Hwan Bae (L) 2B
9. Austin Hedges (R) CG
P. Mitch Keller (R)

757690
03-30-2023, 11:19 AM
https://youtu.be/xSLlZh9yelk

mth123
03-30-2023, 11:19 AM
Friedl in Center and Benson in Left. Hmmmm? I thought Friedl looked terrible in CF last year when he was there and his arm seems more suited to LF where the throw to 3B is shorter.

Benson cooled off at the end of Spring. I wonder if he's on the bubble when Votto returns.

goreds2
03-30-2023, 11:23 AM
Ceremonial First Pitch: Former Reds third baseman Todd Frazier will throw out the ceremonial first pitch.


In Memoriam: A Moment of Remembrance prior to the Anthem to honor the lives of former Reds players, coaches and staff who have passed away since last year’s Opening Day, including a special tribute to Reds Hall of Famer Tom Browning.

TV: Bally Sports Ohio and Local12 WKRC TV (John Sadak, Barry Larkin & Jim Day)

Radio: 700WLW and stations on the Reds Radio Network (Tommy Thrall & Jeff Brantley)

https://700wlw.iheart.com/

CySeymour
03-30-2023, 11:25 AM
All is right in the world: there's baseball to be played, and Ron Madden is starting the game thread.

cumberlandreds
03-30-2023, 11:31 AM
Happy Opening Day. This begins my 52nd season as a fan. I hope for a good year as always.

Big thanks to Ron Madden for posting these lineups everyday! Can't tell you how much this is appreciated.

Kc61
03-30-2023, 11:34 AM
Friedl in Center and Benson in Left. Hmmmm? I thought Friedl looked terrible in CF last year when he was there and his arm seems more suited to LF where the throw to 3B is shorter.

Benson cooled off at the end of Spring. I wonder if he's on the bubble when Votto returns.

Benson is 6’5” and 230 lbs. I recall reading the expectation that he’d wind up in RF (today LF).

Friedl plays “ok” centerfield, kind of like a fourth OFer who plays “all outfield positions.”

Senzel is better in CF defensively, probably league average, but not top tier.

I wonder if one of the Reds’ wunderkind prospect shortstops will suddenly turn up in CF this season.

Roy Tucker
03-30-2023, 11:37 AM
Mrs Tucker and I are at the parade. Not staying for the game though.

Ron Madden
03-30-2023, 11:37 AM
Charlie Goldsmith
@CharlieG__

Some takeaways from the lineup

TJ Friedl moves up to the No. 2 spot. He had a great spring, and his speed/on-base ability can help set the table.

Jason Vosler makes the start at first. DH will be a rotation, but Jake Fraley gets the first start there.

Jason Vosler, 29, spent eight years in the minors before making his MLB debut. He bounced between five organizations before landing with the Reds.

He made the team as a minor league free agent, and his journey pays off with an Opening Day start.

CaiGuy
03-30-2023, 11:44 AM
Never heard of Jason Vosler, not thrilled to see him in there on OD, but whatever, glad to see a game today!

Ron Madden
03-30-2023, 11:59 AM
Never heard of Jason Vosler, not thrilled to see him in there on OD, but whatever, glad to see a game today!

I haven't been impressed with Vosler or Myers so far but I'm not giving up on'em just yet.

MoneyInTheBank
03-30-2023, 12:00 PM
162-0

757690
03-30-2023, 12:04 PM
19347

MoneyInTheBank
03-30-2023, 12:11 PM
Benson is 6’5” and 230 lbs. I recall reading the expectation that he’d wind up in RF (today LF).

Friedl plays “ok” centerfield, kind of like a fourth OFer who plays “all outfield positions.”

Senzel is better in CF defensively, probably league average, but not top tier.

I wonder if one of the Reds’ wunderkind prospect shortstops will suddenly turn up in CF this season.

I kind of expect for there to be 3 guys playing 40+ games in CF between Benson, Senzel and Friedl with Fraley, Barrero, Fairchild getting spot starts. There may come a time where Siani, Ramos and Cerda get some time there too.

goreds2
03-30-2023, 12:12 PM
162-0

You can’t go undefeated unless you win the first on.

NebraskaRed
03-30-2023, 12:38 PM
Benson cooled off at the end of Spring. I wonder if he's on the bubble when Votto returns.

Hard to say, but I get the feeling that they're all in on Benson. If he struggles a ton, then he'll be sent down, but I think he was making this team regardless of Votto's status.

mth123
03-30-2023, 12:41 PM
Benson is 6’5” and 230 lbs. I recall reading the expectation that he’d wind up in RF (today LF).

Friedl plays “ok” centerfield, kind of like a fourth OFer who plays “all outfield positions.”

Senzel is better in CF defensively, probably league average, but not top tier.

I wonder if one of the Reds’ wunderkind prospect shortstops will suddenly turn up in CF this season.

They would almost have to move one of them. Barrero has already played some CF and Bell calls him "a natural out there" and he sure looked like a really good defensive CF when he played there a bit in 2021. With EDLC coming for SS, that would make the most sense to me. Of course, Barrero may not hit enough to be the regular. I could see Barrero ending up as a Chris Taylor. Plays a little CF and a little SS very acceptably or better and can play other spots in the IF and OF. Right now, he's getting an extended look offensively as the starting SS, but I have to think he's just keeping the spot warm. I hope he hits as well as Taylor.

I agree that Benson looks more like a RF long term if he hits enough to play. I just think he looks better in CF than what I've seen of Friedl. Neither one is a long-term option in CF even if they hit well IMO. I'd say Barrero and Siani are the long-term options to handle Cf defensively at his point. I could see them platooning later in the year when guys like Myers and Newman have been moved to other teams. Not sure they'll hit enough to be a starter out there, but I'm more optimistic about Barrero than I am Siani.

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Hard to say, but I get the feeling that they're all in on Benson. If he struggles a ton, then he'll be sent down, but I think he was making this team regardless of Votto's status.

I hope so. I'm optimistic about Benson. In general, I'm fairly optimistic about the position side. The Pitching is a different story outside of the big 3.

NebraskaRed
03-30-2023, 01:06 PM
I completely forgot that Robert Stephenson was with the Pirates now. We won't be seeing him this series anyway since they just put him on the 15-day IL.

Kinsm
03-30-2023, 01:15 PM
19350

Coopdaddy67
03-30-2023, 01:20 PM
Wouldn't mind seeing a Hunter Greene Perfect Game today if I'm being honest.

Kinsm
03-30-2023, 01:22 PM
HOPE - Reds seasons are built on it.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0HdHuDehnM

Roy Tucker
03-30-2023, 01:49 PM
Mrs Tucker and I are at the parade. Not staying for the game though.

This is one long-ass parade.

Wonderful Monds
03-30-2023, 02:11 PM
Let the punishment begin.

Ron Madden
03-30-2023, 02:16 PM
Bally Sports Cincinnati
@BallySportsCIN

Nobody does Opening Day like Cincinnati. ��

#RedsOpeningDay

Watch:
https://twitter.com/BallySportsCIN/status/1641501694696538112?cxt=HHwWgIC2qYTG5MctAAAA

Rantly
03-30-2023, 02:28 PM
Thanks for posting

SunDeck
03-30-2023, 02:35 PM
For 70 wins.
If any fanbase deserves a winning team, it is this one.
Truth.

malcontent
03-30-2023, 03:06 PM
ESPN gives the Reds a 61.9% probability of winning!

RedTeamGo!
03-30-2023, 03:25 PM
Let the punishment begin.

I am prepared for my annual beatdown

Tadasimha
03-30-2023, 03:29 PM
https://youtu.be/2U_OkCsexjw

goreds2
03-30-2023, 03:34 PM
The Willie Cunningham “Yearly Reds Speech” is coming up on 700WLW. Always fun to listen to as you have to take it with a grain of salt and have a little sense of humor.

https://700wlw.iheart.com/

Todd Gack
03-30-2023, 03:45 PM
Reds
1. Jonathan India (R) 2B
2. TJ Friedl (L) CF
3. Jake Fraley (L) DH
4. Tyler Stephenson (R) C
5. Jason Vosler (L) 1B
6. Wil Myers (R) RF
7. Spencer Steer (R) 3B
8. Will Benson (L) LF
9. Jose Barrero (R) SS
P. Hunter Greene (R)
)


Don't get me: I'm very happy it's Opening day, but this might be the most depressing Opening Day Starting Lineup I've ever seen.

Strikes Out Looking
03-30-2023, 03:46 PM
Besides the obvious, what is the difference between the 15 day IL and the 10 day IL? Why wouldn't you just put them on the 10 day?

Birdman007
03-30-2023, 03:57 PM
Besides the obvious, what is the difference between the 15 day IL and the 10 day IL? Why wouldn't you just put them on the 10 day?

15 day IL is for pitchers. 10 day IL is for position players.


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TheBigLebowski
03-30-2023, 03:57 PM
Here we go. Welcome back.

Let’s go win us a World Series.

icehole3
03-30-2023, 03:59 PM
Live by the river in Bellvue just heard the Jets rip through shook my building.

https://media.tenor.com/JgJ9BQVFT8MAAAAM/shocked-cat.gif

Joeyjection19
03-30-2023, 04:00 PM
That flyover was a little early... Maybe in a rush to get those Vipers to Kyiv?

Tony Cloninger
03-30-2023, 04:03 PM
Hoping for Barrero to hit no worse than a hot Juan Castro while fielding to his potential. So the team braintrust (oxymoron$)
(oxymorons$) do not start jerking him to CF for reasons. They can put either of the 2 SS in AAA to do that experiment. Then go from there.

Strikes Out Looking
03-30-2023, 04:06 PM
4:05 opening day and Phil Castellini hasn't said anything stupid on camera (that we know of), so that's a win for the organization.

Ron Madden
03-30-2023, 04:07 PM
Cam Miller
@cammillerfilms

Many will tell you that there is no chance. They will say that this season is hopeless. But what if? What if we cheer them on anyway? I for one will be rooting for success, and applauding the moments of a season that comes and goes so fast. It starts today. Go. #Reds

Reds Freak
03-30-2023, 04:10 PM
Don't get me: I'm very happy it's Opening day, but this might be the most depressing Opening Day Starting Lineup I've ever seen.

I've attended Opening Day games with the likes of Darnell McDonald and Tony Womack in the lineup with Joey Hamilton pitching. It's not a pennant-winning bunch, but I'm sure you could find much worse in Reds recent history. A 2021 ROY, a promising catching stud, three interesting prospects in the bottom third, a few solid vets, and a potential superstar on the mound.

Wonderful Monds
03-30-2023, 04:10 PM
Live by the river in Bellvue just heard the Jets rip through shook my building.

https://media.tenor.com/JgJ9BQVFT8MAAAAM/shocked-cat.gif

I was with some friends at Covington Yard over the fall for the Bengals/Falcons game, the flyover came directly over us, everyone in the joint hit the deck. Sounded like something was exploding right next to us.

Tom Servo
03-30-2023, 04:12 PM
"The three terrors"
"This is the exciting time of the true rebuild"

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fcs0IlfXkAErd-v.jpg

j.u.FAIRFIIELD
03-30-2023, 04:13 PM
We winnin' yet?

Boston Red
03-30-2023, 04:13 PM
Hunter was on pace for a 27 pitch perfect game for a minute there.

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We winnin' yet?

Bears

Tom Servo
03-30-2023, 04:15 PM
McCutchen in the Pirates uniform isn't the same without the hair.

TheBigLebowski
03-30-2023, 04:16 PM
Still amazed when I see “101.”

icehole3
03-30-2023, 04:16 PM
I was with some friends at Covington Yard over the fall for the Bengals/Falcons game, the flyover came directly over us, everyone in the joint hit the deck. Sounded like something was exploding right next to us.

Could you imagine an attack on the US? I would surrender on spot. That Jet noise was so loud as to make it impossible to hear anything else.

TheBigLebowski
03-30-2023, 04:18 PM
Hunter’s already in some stew.

Boston Red
03-30-2023, 04:18 PM
First of many Ks this year!

malcontent
03-30-2023, 04:19 PM
This Pirate lineup looks like it could be tough.

TheBigLebowski
03-30-2023, 04:19 PM
102. Lawdy

Boston Red
03-30-2023, 04:20 PM
Hunter is good.

membengal
03-30-2023, 04:20 PM
What a wicked slider to end the threat. Oof, gorgeous.

icehole3
03-30-2023, 04:21 PM
91 on the corner isn't fair.

Reds Freak
03-30-2023, 04:21 PM
Kinda cool to see McCutcheon back in a Pirate uniform. Not as cool to see the Kroger logo on the sleeve, but I guess I'll enjoy it before they put corporate logos on hats and helmets like the WBC.

Ron Madden
03-30-2023, 04:22 PM
Top 1

Oneil Cruz flies out to left fielder Will Benson. 1 out

Bryan Reynolds singles on a line drive to right fielder Wil Myers.

Andrew McCutchen walks. Bryan Reynolds to 2nd.

Carlos Santana strikes out swinging. 2 outs

Canaan Smith-Njigba called out on strikes. 3 outs

No Score
Mid 1

Tom Servo
03-30-2023, 04:23 PM
India is back. We're back.

Wonderful Monds
03-30-2023, 04:23 PM
Absolutely howling at the “?” next to Vosler on that lineup graphic

mhs95_06
03-30-2023, 04:25 PM
Those bases look obnoxious in size!

membengal
03-30-2023, 04:27 PM
"they all count as line drives"

Sassy Sal
03-30-2023, 04:27 PM
Not as cool to see the Kroger logo on the sleeve

Absolutely awful looking. Someone needs to redesign it so it doesn't stick out like a turd in a punch bowl.

Joeyjection19
03-30-2023, 04:27 PM
Any idea why the bases indicator in the score bug keeps changing back and forth?

Tom Servo
03-30-2023, 04:27 PM
Very very disrespectful AB there by Tyler

Wonderful Monds
03-30-2023, 04:27 PM
Reds on pace to bat 1.000

TheBigLebowski
03-30-2023, 04:28 PM
This team isn’t going to lose more than 7 games. Maybe none at all.

Wonderful Monds
03-30-2023, 04:28 PM
Very very disrespectful AB there by Tyler

Nipples protruding, etc etc

Tony Cloninger
03-30-2023, 04:28 PM
The Koger patch doesn’t look that bad or obtrusive. Now the Proctor and Gamble patch that’s coming should fit snugly between the smaller written name and number.

Sea Ray
03-30-2023, 04:28 PM
Not likin' these Kroger patches. Looks cheap on many levels

UKFlounder
03-30-2023, 04:28 PM
Tyler Stephenson sure knows how to kill a good time

Tadasimha
03-30-2023, 04:30 PM
A patient at bat for TySte :rolleyes:

Tony Cloninger
03-30-2023, 04:31 PM
Bell and his L-R bs. Myers should be hitting now.

Ron Madden
03-30-2023, 04:32 PM
Bottom 1

Jonathan India singles on a line drive to center fielder Jack Suwinski.

TJ Friedl walks. Jonathan India to 2nd.

Jake Fraley singles on a fly ball to left fielder Bryan Reynolds. Jonathan India to 3rd. TJ Friedl to 2nd.

Tyler Stephenson grounds into a double play, shortstop Oneil Cruz to second baseman Ji Hwan Bae to first baseman Carlos Santana. Jonathan India scores. TJ Friedl to 3rd. Jake Fraley out at 2nd. Tyler Stephenson out at 1st. 2 outs

Jason Vosler pops out to shortstop Oneil Cruz. 3 outs

CIN 1
Pitt 0
after 1

Larry Schuler
03-30-2023, 04:32 PM
“Oh wow. Reds scored a run in the first. Let me take a look.”
*rewinds 30 seconds*
*Reds have bases loaded no outs and ground out into a run scoring DP*

membengal
03-30-2023, 04:35 PM
Bell and his L-R bs. Myers should be hitting now.

anytime you can get whatever a Vosler is into the lineup at 5th, man, well, you gotta do it

icehole3
03-30-2023, 04:35 PM
None of that timeout BS

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4 straight K's

Tadasimha
03-30-2023, 04:38 PM
Bae single but still no score

mhs95_06
03-30-2023, 04:39 PM
Reds on pace to bat 1.000

Reds end the inning with a .500 BA for the season to date. This season they are trying to make as many outs as they can on each AB on which they make an out, and try to steal a lot and make lot of base-running blunders. Their strategy for having a higher team batting average!

Reds Freak
03-30-2023, 04:39 PM
Pirates making Greene work a little bit though. 37 pitches through two.

Gainesville Red
03-30-2023, 04:41 PM
Not worried, Larkin has already assured us that Vosler knows how the play the game. So this should all work out just fine.

Ron Madden
03-30-2023, 04:41 PM
Top 2

Ke'Bryan Hayes called out on strikes. 1 out

Jack Suwinski strikes out swinging. 2 outs

Ji Hwan Bae singles on a bunt ground ball to second baseman Jonathan India.

Austin Hedges strikes out on a foul tip. 3 outs

CIN 1
Pitt 0
Mid 2

Tony Cloninger
03-30-2023, 04:41 PM
anytime you can get whatever a Vosler is into the lineup at 5th, man, well, you gotta do it

Vosler is certainly no Bill Voss or Joe Vosmik that’s for sure.

Wonderful Monds
03-30-2023, 04:44 PM
Vosler is certainly no Bill Voss or Joe Vosmik that’s for sure.

pouring one out rn for Redszone legend Bruce Berenyi

Tony Cloninger
03-30-2023, 04:46 PM
pouring one out rn for Redszone legend Bruce Berenyi

Bruce Bereyni was fun but he was no Mike De La Hoz that’s for sure.

Wonderful Monds
03-30-2023, 04:47 PM
Bruce Bereyni was fun but he was no Mike De La Hoz that’s for sure.

I think he actually was both users lol, from my understanding of the lore

Ron Madden
03-30-2023, 04:48 PM
Bottom 2

Wil Myers strikes out swinging. 1 out

Spencer Steer walks.

Will Benson strikes out swinging. 2 outs

Jose Barrero grounds into a force out, third baseman Ke'Bryan Hayes to second baseman Ji Hwan Bae. Spencer Steer out at 2nd. 3 outs

CIN 1
Pitt 0
End of 2

icehole3
03-30-2023, 04:48 PM
Barrero makes contact, that's a start.

WildcatFan
03-30-2023, 04:48 PM
Anecdotally from some friends' social media posts, this is not a sellout. Can anybody confirm?

I dunno what the OD sellout streak was, but it would be quite the legacy to be the ownership group that snapped it.

Wonderful Monds
03-30-2023, 04:48 PM
Jim Bowden Memorial Award winner, Will Benson

Strikes Out Looking
03-30-2023, 04:49 PM
I think he actually was both users lol, from my understanding of the lore

why are all of you using capital letters in this discussion? i think will benson is reminiscent of ty kline.

Wonderful Monds
03-30-2023, 04:49 PM
Anecdotally from some friends' social media posts, this is not a sellout. Can anybody confirm?

I dunno what the OD sellout streak was, but it would be quite the legacy to be the ownership group that snapped it.

The Reds claimed it was a sellout based on the thread in the ORG, but I am 100% assuming that they are lying

icehole3
03-30-2023, 04:50 PM
99 inside corner whew

UPRedsFan
03-30-2023, 04:51 PM
Barrero makes contact, that's a start.

Kinda wondering about his dark sunglasses at the plate. Can he really see the ball well? Don’t see many hitters wearing those.

icehole3
03-30-2023, 04:51 PM
Wow

Wonderful Monds
03-30-2023, 04:51 PM
wow that was a big deep donger

Boston Red
03-30-2023, 04:51 PM
Whoa

Tony Cloninger
03-30-2023, 04:52 PM
I think he actually was both users lol, from my understanding of the lore


I had no idea. I do miss some of these posters from years give by. On Base Machine and his Corey Patterson photo. Chucky and his madness. I know De La Hoz riled up WOY which is hard to do.

membengal
03-30-2023, 04:53 PM
as a manager of Cruz, I am somewhat conflicted on that.

Tadasimha
03-30-2023, 04:53 PM
Green hits 105 on the gun - wow

Wonderful Monds
03-30-2023, 04:54 PM
I had no idea. I do miss some of these posters from years give by. On Base Machine and his Corey Patterson photo. Chucky and his madness. I know De La Hoz riled up WOY which is hard to do.

BB also had beef with WOY so that one hundred percent checks out

757690
03-30-2023, 04:54 PM
Anecdotally from some friends' social media posts, this is not a sellout. Can anybody confirm?

I dunno what the OD sellout streak was, but it would be quite the legacy to be the ownership group that snapped it.

Reds say tickets were sold out. That doesn’t mean every seat is filled.

https://twitter.com/m_sheldon/status/1641102154202075136?s=61&t=ZBdrboUY-k2A2dZC0KKa9Q

membengal
03-30-2023, 04:54 PM
WTF UMP

Coopdaddy67
03-30-2023, 04:54 PM
Man, Greene is getting burned by the umpire this inning.

Tony Cloninger
03-30-2023, 04:55 PM
why are all of you using capital letters in this discussion? i think will benson is reminiscent of ty kline.

We are on the V’s here but it would take about 2 1/2 Ty Clines to equal 1 Will Benson. I think Ty barely weighed 160.

757690
03-30-2023, 04:56 PM
This ump’s game scorecard is going to be interesting.

Kilgore_Trout
03-30-2023, 04:56 PM
Man, Greene is getting burned by the umpire this inning.

Felt like Stephenson oversold it there. Not a great framer.

Tadasimha
03-30-2023, 04:56 PM
Man, Greene is getting burned by the umpire this inning.

Getting into his head. Been distracted a bit since the delayed pitch call against Cruz

Wonderful Monds
03-30-2023, 04:57 PM
God help me for ever praising this network, but I like how Bally has implemented the pitch clock, it was pretty intrusive looking on some other spring training broadcasts I watched

Tony Cloninger
03-30-2023, 04:57 PM
I’m listening to Pirates broadcast because I enjoy Bob Walk getting salty. They just mentioned an interview with Roger Clemens and the new pitch clock. Clemens said if he went 0-2 he would probably just stand there and let himself get a ball called just to slow things down. Speaking for himself.

Wonderful Monds
03-30-2023, 04:59 PM
Wheels coming off a bit for Hunter here

icehole3
03-30-2023, 04:59 PM
Greene 64 pitches

Tony Cloninger
03-30-2023, 05:01 PM
So much for that opening day complete game. I watched Frank Pastore pitch one on OD in 1980 when Seaver could not go. 9-0. LaCoss and Liebrandt also went 9 that series too. Not day off after OD either. Swept 4 game series.

Tadasimha
03-30-2023, 05:03 PM
Gamesmanship with the pitch-com system to get Hunter some more time?

Boston Red
03-30-2023, 05:03 PM
Even if he gets this out is he coming back for the fourth?

Roy Tucker
03-30-2023, 05:03 PM
Greene getting off his rhythm a bit. Getting to him.

Boston Red
03-30-2023, 05:04 PM
Glad no robo ump there!

Strikes Out Looking
03-30-2023, 05:04 PM
I don't like many announcers and I usually don't listen to the Reds announcers (mainly watch mlb.tv with the sound off). These guys are pretty pretty bad.

Ron Madden
03-30-2023, 05:05 PM
Top 3

Oneil Cruz homers (1) on a fly ball to right center field.

Bryan Reynolds grounds out, shortstop Jose Barrero to first baseman Jason Vosler. 1 out

Andrew McCutchen walks. Bryan Reynolds to 2nd.

Carlos Santana strikes out swinging. 2 outs

Canaan Smith-Njigba singles on a line drive to right fielder Wil Myers. Andrew McCutchen to 2nd.

Ke'Bryan Hayes called out on strikes. 3 outs

CIN 1
Pitt 1
Mid 3

JFLegal
03-30-2023, 05:05 PM
overall, i'll take it thus far.

also, what's the O/U on robo balls/strikes? as far as what year it will happen in MLB?

i'll go with 2025.

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Even if he gets this out is he coming back for the fourth?

he better. only reason he gave up a run is because this ump is out to lunch.

Strikes Out Looking
03-30-2023, 05:07 PM
Why is Joey Votto at the GABP today? Shouldn't he be somewhere playing - I thought his not being ready was due to not playing every day 9 innings.

Tadasimha
03-30-2023, 05:10 PM
Why is Joey Votto at the GABP today? Shouldn't he be somewhere playing - I thought his not being ready was due to not playing every day 9 innings.

Lousiville Bats first game is tomorrow in Nashville

Reds Freak
03-30-2023, 05:10 PM
Why is Joey Votto at the GABP today? Shouldn't he be somewhere playing - I thought his not being ready was due to not playing every day 9 innings.

AAA play doesn't start until Friday. I'm sure he can make the drive down 71 later today or tomorrow morning.

Tadasimha
03-30-2023, 05:11 PM
Eat shift and....um, darn

Wonderful Monds
03-30-2023, 05:12 PM
Literally Who steps in again

icehole3
03-30-2023, 05:12 PM
That's routine short, stay in your area 2B.

Tony Cloninger
03-30-2023, 05:13 PM
Who dares question the honorable Joey Votto on RZ? You’re no Phil Gagliano that’s for certain.

JFLegal
03-30-2023, 05:13 PM
vosler whiffs on a hanging curve to strand two.

Tadasimha
03-30-2023, 05:13 PM
Literally Who steps in again

Voo's on first

mhs95_06
03-30-2023, 05:13 PM
No way that should be ruled a hit for Stephenson!

Ron Madden
03-30-2023, 05:13 PM
Bottom 3

Jonathan India grounds out, shortstop Oneil Cruz to first baseman Carlos Santana. 1 out

TJ Friedl grounds out softly, first baseman Carlos Santana to pitcher Mitch Keller. 2 outs

Jake Fraley walks

Tyler Stephenson singles on a ground ball to second baseman Ji Hwan Bae. Jake Fraley to 2nd.

Jason Vosler strikes out swinging. 3 outs

CIN 1
Pitt 1
After 3

Kc61
03-30-2023, 05:13 PM
I was hoping Vosler would make the Reds as a backup utility man. So now he’s the fifth place hitter. Didn’t work out that time.

JFLegal
03-30-2023, 05:14 PM
Why is Joey Votto at the GABP today? Shouldn't he be somewhere playing - I thought his not being ready was due to not playing every day 9 innings.

because he's awesome?

TheBigLebowski
03-30-2023, 05:14 PM
When you have Jason Vosler in your 5 hole, you’re not allowed to be angry about 0-2 with 3 LOB.

JFLegal
03-30-2023, 05:14 PM
we have a new laura's lean commercial!

why did they stop with the "even jerky!" though? they must read this board.

Strikes Out Looking
03-30-2023, 05:15 PM
Who dares question the honorable Joey Votto on RZ? You’re no Phil Gagliano that’s for certain.

I love Joey Votto, but his not being ready to play and not figuring out a way to be ready to come of the IL asap really burns me. and its phil gagliano to you bub.

Tadasimha
03-30-2023, 05:15 PM
Gotta go do some work; bring home a win, fellas!

Ron Madden
03-30-2023, 05:15 PM
Why is Joey Votto at the GABP today? Shouldn't he be somewhere playing - I thought his not being ready was due to not playing every day 9 innings.

He will be playing with Louisville their season starts tomorrow

RedTeamGo!
03-30-2023, 05:16 PM
Can someone explain to me why Bell is batting something called Vosler 5th in the lineup? Anyone?

Wonderful Monds
03-30-2023, 05:16 PM
Can someone explain to me why Bell is batting something called Vosler 5th in the lineup? Anyone?

because it’s funny

TheBigLebowski
03-30-2023, 05:17 PM
I love Joey Votto, but his not being ready to play and not figuring out a way to be ready to come of the IL asap really burns me. and its phil gagliano to you bub.

I’m not sure you can give him grief about this.

Really can’t give him grief for much of anything, but especially this.

Tony Cloninger
03-30-2023, 05:17 PM
When you have Jason Vosler in your 5 hole, you’re not allowed to be angry about 0-2 with 3 LOB.

Makes me long for the days of Reggie Taylor and Jason Romano.

Now we got on field reporters interviewing players while the game is going on. On Opening Day. Between 2 100 loss teams. Get off my yard!

JFLegal
03-30-2023, 05:18 PM
Gotta go do some work; bring home a win, fellas!

may the Force be with you

TheBigLebowski
03-30-2023, 05:18 PM
In 2 AB, Bae is already infinitely more productive than our recent Oriental import.

KYExtemper
03-30-2023, 05:20 PM
82 pitches through 4.1. Not good.

Tony Cloninger
03-30-2023, 05:21 PM
I love Joey Votto, but his not being ready to play and not figuring out a way to be ready to come of the IL asap really burns me. and its phil gagliano to you bub.


I like you Strikes Out Looking but you’re no 0-2 count.

Phil could take a walk on those rare times he actually was remembered by Sparky.

TheBigLebowski
03-30-2023, 05:21 PM
Hunter is getting squeezed.

icehole3
03-30-2023, 05:21 PM
Greene done

JFLegal
03-30-2023, 05:21 PM
robo umps will save nonsense like this. even that last "walk" should have been a strike. barely. but it was a strike. caught the outside corner.

JCM11
03-30-2023, 05:22 PM
Crummy start by Greene.

TheBigLebowski
03-30-2023, 05:22 PM
Yanked? Come on. 83 pitches? Let him battle. Stupid.

KYExtemper
03-30-2023, 05:22 PM
robo umps will save nonsense like this. even that last "walk" should have been a strike. barely. but it was a strike. caught the outside corner.

I welcome the robo umps whenever they arrive. That needs to be the next big change in baseball.

JFLegal
03-30-2023, 05:22 PM
Hunter is getting squeezed.

for sure. and everyone who is not actually watching this game will rip him, not realizing helen keller is the home plate ump (and her great grandson is the pirates pitcher). just kidding on the last part.

Tom Servo
03-30-2023, 05:23 PM
Too many pitches by Hunter obviously, think he got thrown off just before the Cruz HR and never quite got it back.

Reds Freak
03-30-2023, 05:24 PM
Yanked? Come on. 83 pitches? Let him battle. Stupid.

March 30 in a rebuilding year is probably not the time to push a 23-year old potential future ace.

JFLegal
03-30-2023, 05:25 PM
March 30 in a rebuilding year is probably not the time to push a 23-year old potential future ace.

especially when he's getting squeezed like mad.

TheBigLebowski
03-30-2023, 05:25 PM
March 30 in a rebuilding year is probably not the time to push a 23-year old potential future ace.

He’s 23, in his 2nd season and asking him to throw more than 83 pitches is hardly “pushing” him.

JFLegal
03-30-2023, 05:25 PM
cruz has no faith in his fastball apparently

757690
03-30-2023, 05:25 PM
Don’t have a good feeling about this game anymore.

ZakkW
03-30-2023, 05:25 PM
Terrible strike zone by home plate ump today, completely got Greene out of sorts mentally

TheBigLebowski
03-30-2023, 05:26 PM
And this orb of mediocrity we barfed out of the pen immediately issues a freebie.

JFLegal
03-30-2023, 05:27 PM
man, this gonna be a looooooong summer

757690
03-30-2023, 05:27 PM
I would rather the Reds never “push” Greene at any point this season. I will gladly accept a few more loses this season if it means Greene developing and staying healthy.

Reds Freak
03-30-2023, 05:27 PM
He’s 23, in his 2nd season and asking him to throw more than 83 pitches is hardly “pushing” him.

Two years removed from TJ as well. Not to mention those were mostly high stress pitches all game. I just don't see the point so I can't fault Bell/Johnson here.

icehole3
03-30-2023, 05:27 PM
Cruz about to walk in many runs

JohnnyBench5
03-30-2023, 05:28 PM
83 pitches... Bell mismanaging the pitching staff 4 innings in...glad to see nothing has changed.

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Tony Cloninger
03-30-2023, 05:28 PM
This could be the season right here.

JFLegal
03-30-2023, 05:28 PM
2-2 and you bounce another one. the lack of aggressiveness is staggering. then walks in a run.

Reds Freak
03-30-2023, 05:28 PM
83 pitches... Bell mismanaging the pitching staff 4 innings in...glad to see nothing has changed.

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Ha, glad to see nothing has changed with RZ game threads either!

JCM11
03-30-2023, 05:29 PM
Reality is starting to set in that the Pirates have a better team than us.

membengal
03-30-2023, 05:29 PM
this would be the portion of the program whereby those many on redszone who predicted 95 or so losses again would be pointing.

Tony Cloninger
03-30-2023, 05:30 PM
83 pitches... Bell mismanaging the pitching staff 4 innings in...glad to see nothing has changed.

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You’re no Don Werner that’s for certain.

Reds Freak
03-30-2023, 05:30 PM
Reality is starting to set in that the Pirates have a better team than us.

After 3 innings we're ready to call that?

JFLegal
03-30-2023, 05:30 PM
omg this guy is awful

icehole3
03-30-2023, 05:30 PM
Cruz

https://www.gifcen.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/05/smh-gif-10.gif

JohnnyBench5
03-30-2023, 05:30 PM
Cruz...Turrible...can't throw a strike...

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KYExtemper
03-30-2023, 05:31 PM
It has to suck for any Reds starter to know that you could do alright and then this awful bullpen is going to come in and barf on whatever you put together.

Tony Cloninger
03-30-2023, 05:31 PM
Well at least he’s not squeezing Cruz. Those pitches are missing.

mth123
03-30-2023, 05:31 PM
33 year old rookie. Nuff said.

Gainesville Red
03-30-2023, 05:31 PM
That's probably enough of Cruz

membengal
03-30-2023, 05:31 PM
Siri: what's a Fernando Cruz?

faffy42
03-30-2023, 05:32 PM
HAPPY OPENING DAY REDZONE! Cheers to a new season, and hopefully new results!

JohnnyBench5
03-30-2023, 05:32 PM
Lol...and i am the bad guy for pointing Bell has no idea what he is doing...

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mhs95_06
03-30-2023, 05:32 PM
Reds may be fined for this game taking too long! Failure to have a desire to compete!

KYExtemper
03-30-2023, 05:32 PM
Can't even get out old man McCutchen.

Strikes Out Looking
03-30-2023, 05:32 PM
The Reds are in mid season form. 0-162 here we come.

757690
03-30-2023, 05:32 PM
I have no problem taking Greene out at that situation.

I don’t understand bringing in Cruz in such a crucial situation. This was the time to bring in a veteran like Law or Farmer.

JFLegal
03-30-2023, 05:33 PM
i hate our front office. this is on them. everyone knew the reds did nothing to help their bullpen. a bunch of scrubs. i bet most of these guys like cruz would get lit up at AAA this year. that's how bad this pen is.

JohnnyBench5
03-30-2023, 05:33 PM
Cincinnati Bad News Bears...LOL

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KYExtemper
03-30-2023, 05:33 PM
What an unmitigated disaster

Dawink
03-30-2023, 05:33 PM
Ahhhhh Reds relievers, hey where else you gonna go?


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Tony Cloninger
03-30-2023, 05:33 PM
This is Jose Manzanillo adjusting his cup pitching bad.

JFLegal
03-30-2023, 05:34 PM
nice play by steer

mth123
03-30-2023, 05:34 PM
I have no problem taking Greene out at that situation.

I don’t understand bringing in Cruz in such a crucial situation. This was the time to bring in a veteran like Law or Farmer.

Cruz is older than both of those guys.

icehole3
03-30-2023, 05:34 PM
I have no problem taking Greene out at that situation.

I don’t understand bringing in Cruz in such a crucial situation. This was the time to bring in a veteran like Law or Farmer.

He needed Diaz

JohnnyBench5
03-30-2023, 05:34 PM
Nice play by Steer.

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Redsfan6272
03-30-2023, 05:34 PM
Should have brought Farmer in to pitch!! IF you stuck on not bringing a Lefty in

Tony Cloninger
03-30-2023, 05:35 PM
Good play by Steer. Stephenson not injured. Things are looking up.

JFLegal
03-30-2023, 05:35 PM
alright, this cruz guy needs to have a one-way boat ride down the ohio river to louisville

Ron Gant
03-30-2023, 05:35 PM
Just a few more weeks until the NFL draft, and just 4 short months until the start of training camp.

mhs95_06
03-30-2023, 05:35 PM
Steer out-smarted the base-runner by throwing right down the baseline!

icehole3
03-30-2023, 05:35 PM
Just glad Stevenson didn't get hurt there.

JarrodOnVinyl
03-30-2023, 05:36 PM
As much as we put the blame on Bell for pulling Greene. It's obvious neither pitcher is in top form today. Lots of nerves

JohnnyBench5
03-30-2023, 05:36 PM
We have ALL off-season and ALL Spring Training and the best Bell can do is come up with with Cruz...Jeesh.

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Tony Cloninger
03-30-2023, 05:36 PM
Opening day jitters. It’s happened to worse players than Cruz.

Wonderful Monds
03-30-2023, 05:37 PM
Just a few more weeks until the NFL draft, and just 4 short months until the start of training camp.

And just a few hundred million more years until the heat death of the universe

Reds Freak
03-30-2023, 05:37 PM
Haha, some of y'all are not gonna make it with this team in a 162-game season if we're melting down like this after three innings. Might be a good year to avoid the game threads.

mhs95_06
03-30-2023, 05:38 PM
I have no problem taking Greene out at that situation.

I don’t understand bringing in Cruz in such a crucial situation. This was the time to bring in a veteran like Law or Farmer.

They are for the 6,7,8th innings.

Reds Freak
03-30-2023, 05:38 PM
We have ALL off-season and ALL Spring Training and the best Bell can do is come up with with Cruz...Jeesh.

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Cruz was actually pretty lights out during the spring.

Redsfan6272
03-30-2023, 05:38 PM
Just think if Bell went to Young instead after yanking Greene?

goreds2
03-30-2023, 05:39 PM
Nice job by young to get out of it.

mhs95_06
03-30-2023, 05:39 PM
We have ALL off-season and ALL Spring Training and the best Bell can do is come up with with Cruz...Jeesh.

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Bell doesn't sign the players.

JarrodOnVinyl
03-30-2023, 05:39 PM
Haha, some of y'all are not gonna make it with this team in a 162-game season if we're melting down like this after three innings. Might be a good year to avoid the game threads.

Lol. Four innings in to game 1. That didn't take long

JFLegal
03-30-2023, 05:39 PM
Just a few more weeks until the NFL draft, and just 4 short months until the start of training camp.

lol exactly. the best thing about the reds?

is that the bengals have joe burrow.

Ron Madden
03-30-2023, 05:40 PM
Top 4

Jack Suwinski strikes out on a foul tip. 1 out

Ji Hwan Bae doubles (1) on a line drive to left fielder Will Benson.

Ji Hwan Bae steals (1) 3rd base.

Austin Hedges walks.

Pitching Change: Fernando Cruz replaces Hunter Greene.

Oneil Cruz walks. Austin Hedges to 2nd.

Bryan Reynolds walks. Ji Hwan Bae scores. Austin Hedges to 3rd. Oneil Cruz to 2nd.

Andrew McCutchen walks. Austin Hedges scores. Oneil Cruz to 3rd. Bryan Reynolds to 2nd.

Wild pitch by pitcher Fernando Cruz. Oneil Cruz scores. Bryan Reynolds to 3rd. Andrew McCutchen to 2nd.

Pitching Change: Alex Young replaces Fernando Cruz.

Canaan Smith-Njigba strikes out swinging. 3 outs

Pitt 4
CIN 1
Mid 4

Tony Cloninger
03-30-2023, 05:40 PM
Just think if Bell went to Young instead after yanking Greene?


Just think if you knew the winning numbers for the next Lotto drawings.

JohnnyBench5
03-30-2023, 05:41 PM
Bell doesn't sign the players.But he manages them...Turribly.

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JFLegal
03-30-2023, 05:42 PM
wil myers managed to somehow strike out twice there. that's oddly impressive.

icehole3
03-30-2023, 05:42 PM
This ump

BCubb2003
03-30-2023, 05:42 PM
We’ve all got the jitters.

TheBigLebowski
03-30-2023, 05:42 PM
If we’re going to have an awful bullpen, at least make it fun. Don’t just have them turn the ball over and walk off the mound.

Fire them out of a cannon into the Ohio.

Tony Cloninger
03-30-2023, 05:42 PM
They need to tire out Keller. Even the ump missed one on Myers and then he takes one that close??

Sassy Sal
03-30-2023, 05:43 PM
This ump

Of all the rule changes, I would have preferred the robot ump calling balls and strikes instead of the clown bases.

Redsfan6272
03-30-2023, 05:44 PM
Steeer!!!!

icehole3
03-30-2023, 05:44 PM
https://c.tenor.com/Y0gl6YxNauIAAAAC/boom-denzel.gif

Wonderful Monds
03-30-2023, 05:44 PM
Can you smell what the Steer is cookin’????????

JFLegal
03-30-2023, 05:44 PM
steeeeeer!

Redsfan6272
03-30-2023, 05:44 PM
Lol a viking helmet and a robe after the homerun

Tony Cloninger
03-30-2023, 05:44 PM
That’s A Whammy for Steer n’ Stein.

Kc61
03-30-2023, 05:44 PM
Two very fine at bats for Spencer Steer.

membengal
03-30-2023, 05:46 PM
Just think if you knew the winning numbers for the next Lotto drawings.

oh man, the series of biting sarcastic messages dragged behind a plane that would fly over GABP during games this year...would be epic

TheBigLebowski
03-30-2023, 05:46 PM
Haha, some of y'all are not gonna make it with this team in a 162-game season if we're melting down like this after three innings. Might be a good year to avoid the game threads.

No. Most won’t. In fact, maybe 6-8 will. Look at the game threads at the end of last season.

People stop caring when it’s clear they’re cheering for a lost cause, and they find better things to do.

They’re the smart ones.

Kc61
03-30-2023, 05:46 PM
Is Benson one of these swing at everything guys?

Redsfan6272
03-30-2023, 05:46 PM
That AB was Barrero of last year. Chasing balls out of the zone

Strikes Out Looking
03-30-2023, 05:46 PM
Barrero is back to being Barrero. Hacks at 3 awful pitches.

Tony Cloninger
03-30-2023, 05:48 PM
If we’re going to have an awful bullpen, at least make it fun. Don’t just have them turn the ball over and walk off the mound.

Fire them out of a cannon into the Ohio.


You know what would be a fun bullpen regardless of their performances.

Ryan Duren
Dick Radatz
Al Hrabosky
Pedro Borbon
Sparky Lyle
Rob Dibble

Ron Madden
03-30-2023, 05:50 PM
Bottom 4

Wil Myers called out on strikes. 1 out

Spencer Steer homers (1) on a fly ball to left center field.

Will Benson strikes out swinging. 2 outs

Jose Barrero strikes out swinging. 3 outs

Pitt 4
CIN 2
End of 4

Tony Cloninger
03-30-2023, 05:50 PM
Barrero is back to being Barrero. Hacks at 3 awful pitches.


He literally saw Steer do his thing and said screw this shortening my swing being patient approach. Look what it got me after one at bat.

Strikes Out Looking
03-30-2023, 05:50 PM
Note to Chris Welch - no one says pitchers aren't athletes.

Kingspoint
03-30-2023, 05:51 PM
He’s 23, in his 2nd season and asking him to throw more than 83 pitches is hardly “pushing” him.

I've assumed that 90 pitches is going to be the mark to pull our big-three for most of the season. Each of them will exceed the 30-rule with this pace.

Redsfan6272
03-30-2023, 05:51 PM
Nice play by Young

757690
03-30-2023, 05:52 PM
Note to Chris Welch - no one says pitchers aren't athletes.

Haha, Welsh says this all the time. I am guessing it based on everyone telling him during his pitching days that he’s not an athlete.

Ron Madden
03-30-2023, 05:53 PM
Top 5

Ke'Bryan Hayes grounds out, shortstop Jose Barrero to first baseman Jason Vosler. 1 out

Jack Suwinski bunt grounds out, pitcher Alex Young to first baseman Jason Vosler. 2 outs



Ji Hwan Bae lines out to center fielder TJ Friedl. 3 outs

Pitt 4
CIN 2
Mid 5

Tony Cloninger
03-30-2023, 05:53 PM
oh man, the series of biting sarcastic messages dragged behind a plane that would fly over GABP during games this year...would be epic

There’s really no other option when optimism is quickly squashed.

Mutaman
03-30-2023, 05:54 PM
I really try to look at the big picture but my 2023 optimism ended when the Cruz started pitching. But then the big picture is pretty dismal too, isn't it?

757690
03-30-2023, 05:55 PM
Still anyone’s game. The Pirates’ pen isn’t much better than the Reds.

Wayne Krivsky
03-30-2023, 05:55 PM
Is Benson one of these swing at everything guys?

I don't have an answer, but he sure looked that way in spring training. I dont know how hit ended up but for a while I know he didnt have a single walk all spring. The guy had an 18% BB rate in AAA last season. Since becoming a Red his plate approach has been absolutely shocking to me. Hoping this is a small sample size overreaction, but I do worry about him being able to an everyday player with him hacking like he has been.

j.u.FAIRFIIELD
03-30-2023, 05:56 PM
The secret to baseball is to understand the secrets.
One of them is that when you bring in a middle reliever, the goal is for him to not walk 3 guys, throw a wild pitch and let the other team essentially gift itself into the 6th inning.

Man, I hope Cruz isn't part of Plan A for this bullpen.

Kingspoint
03-30-2023, 05:56 PM
I have no problem taking Greene out at that situation.

I don’t understand bringing in Cruz in such a crucial situation. This was the time to bring in a veteran like Law or Farmer.

To build the confidence of Greene, Lodolo and Ashcraft, we need to be using our best bullpen pitchers in the games they pitch. Save the fodder for our 4th and 5th Starters.

TheBigLebowski
03-30-2023, 05:56 PM
You know what would be a fun bullpen regardless of their performances.

Ryan Duren
Dick Radatz
Al Hrabosky
Pedro Borbon
Sparky Lyle
Rob Dibble

Add in the ole soft tossing lefty Tim Birtsas and we’re on.

Mutaman
03-30-2023, 05:56 PM
You know what would be a fun bullpen regardless of their performances.

Ryan Duren
Dick Radatz
Al Hrabosky
Pedro Borbon
Sparky Lyle
Rob Dibble

Bill Henry, because I really liked Bill Henry. You could throw KoKo in there too.

Tony Cloninger
03-30-2023, 05:56 PM
Nice Bert Blyleven curve there.