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Ron Madden
04-07-2023, 09:11 AM
4-7-23 Reds @ Phillies

Reds
1. Jonathan India (R) 2B
2. TJ Friedl (L) CF
3. Jake Fraley (L) DH
4. Tyler Stephenson (R) C
5. Wil Myers (R) RF
6. Jason Vosler (L) 1B
7. Spencer Steer (R) 3B
8. Will Benson (L) LF
9. Jose Barrero (R) SS
P. Hunter Greene (R)

Phillies
1. Trea Turner (R) SS
2. Kyle Schwarber (L) DH
3. J.T. Realmuto (R) C
4. Nick Castellanos (R) RF
5. Bryson Stott (L) 2B
6. Alec Bohm (R) 3B
7. Jake Cave (L) LF
8. Kody Clemens (L) 1B
9. Brandon Marsh (L) CF
P. Zack Wheeler (R)

goreds2
04-07-2023, 09:31 AM
Weather:

3 PM
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rain drop 0%

4 PM
60°
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rain drop 0%

5 PM
58°
RealFeel® 54°
rain drop 0%

6 PM
58°
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https://www.accuweather.com/en/us/philadelphia/19102/daily-weather-forecast/350540?day=1

klw
04-07-2023, 09:44 AM
I hope there is a downpour just to spite the Phillies after yesterday's debacle.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZ6Ojns6Fs0

cumberlandreds
04-07-2023, 09:47 AM
I live about an hour west of Baltimore and they had forecasted thunderstorms for yesterday afternoon. Didn't get a drop of rain. Just sheer stupidity to call games off a day in advance of just normal rain predicted. If it was a hurricane then it s a different story. But otherwise plan to play.

Ron Madden
04-07-2023, 10:16 AM
Cincinnati Reds
@Reds

Bench coach Freddie Benavides will serve as the #Reds’ acting manager today.

Manager David Bell had a minor medical procedure and is expected to return tomorrow.

NCReds
04-07-2023, 10:37 AM
Tough stretch ahead for the Redlegs. Phillies, Braves, Phillies(again) and an undefeated (so far) Tampa Bay. Could turn ugly quick, but hopefully that’s not the case. If they can make it out of these next 4 series at .500 or better, would be more than exceptional.

JarrodOnVinyl
04-07-2023, 10:43 AM
I firmly believe if Greene really attacks this Philly lineup they will have a slim chance

goreds2
04-07-2023, 11:10 AM
Hopefully Will Benson can have a break out game.

Ron Madden
04-07-2023, 11:14 AM
Series Preview: Phillies and Reds On Easter Weekend



The Philadelphia Phillies (1-5) will host the Cincinnati Reds (3-2) at Citizens Bank Park over Easter weekend. After a rough start to the 2023 MLB season, the Phillies will look to get back on track against an up-and-coming National League Central foe.

Hunter Greene (0-0, 8.10 ERA) vs. Zack Wheeler (0-1, 8.31 ERA)

Both of these starters are talented pitchers who had a rough go of it in their first outings. Zack Wheeler, a bonafide ace, had a very rough first start in which he tossed 4.1 innings and gave up five runs, four earned, against the Texas Rangers.

If the Phillies hope to find success this season, it will have to come off the back of their co-aces Aaron Nola and Zack Wheeler.

Nick Lodolo (1-0, 3.60 ERA) vs. Bailey Falter (0-1, 3.38 ERA)

Philadelphia didn't envision Falter as their fifth starter entering the 2023 MLB season, much less their third or fourth. But here they are.

Lodolo, a former top prospect, is expecting to have a career season this year. It'll be a tough matchup for the Phillies on Saturday. Falter will have to perform at the best of his abilities while hoping the offense can muster enough to give him run support.

Graham Ashcraft (1-0, 1.29 ERA) vs. Taijuan Walker (0-1, 8.31 ERA)

Sunday is another matchup between a Reds pitcher who has started the season on a high note and a Phillies starter who has been lackluster.

Walker gave up four earned runs in 4.1 innings pitched in his first start, not exactly the type of performance that inspires confidence in a new signing.

Walker will look to get back on track on Easter Sunday and prove to the team and its fans he is worth the four-year, $72 million contract the franchise gave him this winter.


continue reading here:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/mlb/series-preview-phillies-and-reds-on-easter-weekend/ar-AA19xtLP

GAC
04-07-2023, 12:30 PM
Hopefully Will Benson can have a break out game.

Small window, but in 12 ABs he has 9 K's (and looked bad imo). Had an impressive year in '22 at Columbus, so I'll stay any judgment for now; but I hope we don't have another Pedro Cerrano (lol). I do believe he will be the odd-man out when Votto returns.

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So we're an "up-and-coming National League Central foe". Cool.

757690
04-07-2023, 12:39 PM
Wheeler is the first good, veteran starting pitcher the Reds will face in this young season. It will be interesting how the bats respond.

j.u.FAIRFIIELD
04-07-2023, 12:46 PM
Wondering which master is being served by calling off games a day in advance.

icehole3
04-07-2023, 12:48 PM
Vosler

https://i.imgur.com/JKbc1K6.gif

ShyGuy
04-07-2023, 12:48 PM
I want to say at the end of last season the Reds got spanked pretty bad the Phillies. But they lost like 7 in a row against the Pirates end of last season. There they bounced back

Interesting series. Phillies at 1-5 as well may be playing desperate

Ky Fried Redleg
04-07-2023, 02:48 PM
I live about an hour west of Baltimore and they had forecasted thunderstorms for yesterday afternoon. Didn't get a drop of rain. Just sheer stupidity to call games off a day in advance of just normal rain predicted. If it was a hurricane then it s a different story. But otherwise plan to play.



I agree. Just plain crazy.


https://youtu.be/3UDpQ0eS-vE

Ron Madden
04-07-2023, 03:11 PM
Top 1

Jonathan India flies out to right fielder Nick Castellanos. 1 out

TJ Friedl pops out to catcher J. T. Realmuto in foul territory. 2 outs

Jake Fraley strikes out swinging. 3 outs

No score
Mid 1

Tony Cloninger
04-07-2023, 03:12 PM
Is it mandated by the league or Nike that they must wear those terrible Red tops?

757690
04-07-2023, 03:13 PM
Color me worried about Greene dealing with 7 days off since his last start

NebraskaRed
04-07-2023, 03:14 PM
Nice K

757690
04-07-2023, 03:15 PM
Okay, color me less worried

icehole3
04-07-2023, 03:15 PM
Greene 100
https://i.imgur.com/iOUEi6W.gif

membengal
04-07-2023, 03:16 PM
holy crap, Hunter. Wow.

NebraskaRed
04-07-2023, 03:16 PM
Dominant first inning by Greene

Ron Madden
04-07-2023, 03:17 PM
Bottom 1

Trea Turner strikes out swinging. 1 out

Kyle Schwarber strikes out swinging. 2 outs

J.T. Realmuto strikes out swinging. 3 outs

No score
After 1

Ky Fried Redleg
04-07-2023, 03:17 PM
Greene 100
https://i.imgur.com/iOUEi6W.gif

Killin' me....killin' me softly...with your gifs !!!

NebraskaRed
04-07-2023, 03:21 PM
Excellent AB by Stephenson

membengal
04-07-2023, 03:22 PM
myers has been...not really great, at all, to start the year.

NebraskaRed
04-07-2023, 03:22 PM
And another uninspiring AB by Myers

Tony Cloninger
04-07-2023, 03:23 PM
Wills of the Whif. Too soon?

757690
04-07-2023, 03:24 PM
And another uninspiring AB by Myers

It’s only been a week, but Adam Duvall, who I wanted the Reds to sign instead of Myers, has 1.577 OPS right now.

Ron Madden
04-07-2023, 03:25 PM
Top 2

Tyler Stephenson walks.

Wil Myers called out on strikes. 1 out

Jason Vosler strikes out on a foul tip. 2 outs

Spencer Steer pops out softly to first baseman Kody Clemens in foul territory. 3 outs

No score
Mid 2

JarrodOnVinyl
04-07-2023, 03:26 PM
I suspect as the weather warms up, so will Myers' bat

Tony Cloninger
04-07-2023, 03:27 PM
It’s only been a week, but Adam Duvall, who I wanted the Reds to sign instead of Myers, has 1.577 OPS right now.

And most importantly he has 12 RBI. Very under appreciated stat in the last 10 years.

Tony Cloninger
04-07-2023, 03:35 PM
Still throwing too many pitches and letting Cave get a walk after 0-2. At least the bullpen is rested.

NebraskaRed
04-07-2023, 03:37 PM
Greene seems to get rattled easily, at least lately

757690
04-07-2023, 03:37 PM
Re-color me worried again

TheBigLebowski
04-07-2023, 03:37 PM
100, 101, 101, 101, 101.

Last 5 pitches.

Mix in a slider and that AB is over.

NebraskaRed
04-07-2023, 03:39 PM
Not good

icehole3
04-07-2023, 03:40 PM
Take something off the FB

RedTeamGo!
04-07-2023, 03:40 PM
This is why I am trying to pump the brakes on those on here saying the Reds should throw $100+ million at Greene already. Thrower, not a pitcher. It needs to change.

TheBigLebowski
04-07-2023, 03:40 PM
He’s not making thru the 4th today either.

We’ll be lucky if he gets thru 2.

Tony Cloninger
04-07-2023, 03:40 PM
Thanks Reds I mean Phillies hitter with no patience

NebraskaRed
04-07-2023, 03:40 PM
Crisis averted, but Greene is still sometimes lacking control (physical and mental)

Ron Madden
04-07-2023, 03:41 PM
Bottom 2

Nick Castellanos doubles (4) on a ground ball to left fielder Will Benson.

Bryson Stott strikes out swinging. 1 out

Alec Bohm lines out sharply to center fielder TJ Friedl. Nick Castellanos to 3rd. 2 outs

Jake Cave walks.

Jake Cave steals (2) 2nd base.

Kody Clemens walks.

Brandon Marsh walks. Nick Castellanos scores. Jake Cave to 3rd. Kody Clemens to 2nd.

Trea Turner flies out to center fielder TJ Friedl. 3 outs

PHI 1
CIN 0
End of 2

icehole3
04-07-2023, 03:41 PM
Right now, I'd sign Lodolo before Hunter.

NebraskaRed
04-07-2023, 03:43 PM
Benson with his first hit

icehole3
04-07-2023, 03:43 PM
Yah

757690
04-07-2023, 03:43 PM
Alert the media! Benson gets a hit!

Tony Cloninger
04-07-2023, 03:43 PM
Yes. This Will did better. Took some tough close pitches too.

JarrodOnVinyl
04-07-2023, 03:44 PM
Now let's get into scoring position

klw
04-07-2023, 03:44 PM
Trea Turner swings 2-0 after 3 straight guys walked. He has to do damage if he is swinging there.

RedTeamGo!
04-07-2023, 03:44 PM
Right now, I'd sign Lodolo before Hunter.

I would hold off on Lodolo as well. I would see if Ashcraft would sign for really cheap.

Tony Cloninger
04-07-2023, 03:46 PM
Robbed by the SS. Good AB to go up the middle.

NebraskaRed
04-07-2023, 03:46 PM
Barrero trying to wipe out every base runner he can including himself

757690
04-07-2023, 03:46 PM
Big test for Greene this inning, to see if he can bounce back for the rough 2nd inning

Ron Madden
04-07-2023, 03:47 PM
Top 3

Will Benson singles on a fly ball to center fielder Brandon Marsh.

Jose Barrero caught stealing 2nd base, catcher J. T. Realmuto to second baseman Bryson Stott. 2 outs

Jonathan India pops out to first baseman Kody Clemens. 3 outs

PHI 1
CIN 0
Mid 3

TheBigLebowski
04-07-2023, 03:47 PM
This game already has me frustrated.

faffy42
04-07-2023, 03:47 PM
Wow. Not an ideal bounce back inning for the reds there.

TheBigLebowski
04-07-2023, 03:48 PM
Big test for Greene this inning, to see if he can bounce back for the rough 2nd inning

They need to keep Herget warm. If Hunter walks a guy or gives up a base hit, the wheels will likely fall off. Again.

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Schwarber. Wonder where he’s from originally.

Tony Cloninger
04-07-2023, 03:50 PM
This game already has me frustrated.

Jose and Wil at least going up the middle looked good. The rest of these guys have shown no patience to wait out Wheeler. At all.

icehole3
04-07-2023, 03:52 PM
India probably should've snagged that

TheBigLebowski
04-07-2023, 03:53 PM
How did India manage to miss that?

757690
04-07-2023, 03:53 PM
Well, at least Greene isn’t walking everyone

Tony Cloninger
04-07-2023, 03:55 PM
Interesting Welsh bit about Nick knowing how to hit very fast pitches. Need a slider or change up development soon.

RedTeamGo!
04-07-2023, 03:56 PM
Bell totally missed today with a colonoscopy, right?

TheBigLebowski
04-07-2023, 03:56 PM
If India manages to catch a relatively routine LD, this inning is over.

Hunter’s not doing himself any favors, but his team has to do a better job picking him up.

Ky Fried Redleg
04-07-2023, 03:57 PM
****************** S C O R E B O A R D S T U M P E R ********************************

Two Phillies' pitchers have thrown no-hitters against the Reds. In each of the no-no's , the pitcher allowed just one baserunner.

Can you name the two Phillies who tossed no-hitters against our Redlegs and also who was the lone Reds' baserunner in each of the no-hit losses???

Ron Madden
04-07-2023, 03:57 PM
Bottom 3

Kyle Schwarber pops out to first baseman Jason Vosler in foul territory. 1 out

J.T. Realmuto singles on a sharp line drive to center fielder TJ Friedl.

Nick Castellanos doubles (5) on a sharp line drive to left fielder Will Benson. J.T. Realmuto to 3rd.

Bryson Stott pops out to second baseman Jonathan India. 2 outs

Alec Bohm flies out to right fielder Wil Myers. 3 outs

PHI 1
CIN 0
After 3

TheBigLebowski
04-07-2023, 03:57 PM
Like that. He battled there and escaped without further damage.

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****************** S C O R E B O A R D S T U M P E R ********************************

Two Phillies' pitchers have thrown no-hitters against the Reds. In each of the no-no's , the pitcher allowed just one baserunner.

Can you name the two Phillies who tossed no-hitters against our Redlegs and also who was the lone Reds' baserunner in each of the no-hit losses???

Carlton and Halladay

Brondon Phillips and Eddie Milner?

icehole3
04-07-2023, 03:59 PM
****************** S C O R E B O A R D S T U M P E R ********************************

Two Phillies' pitchers have thrown no-hitters against the Reds. In each of the no-no's , the pitcher allowed just one baserunner.

Can you name the two Phillies who tossed no-hitters against our Redlegs and also who was the lone Reds' baserunner in each of the no-hit losses???

Wise

Strikes Out Looking
04-07-2023, 04:00 PM
****************** S C O R E B O A R D S T U M P E R ********************************

Two Phillies' pitchers have thrown no-hitters against the Reds. In each of the no-no's , the pitcher allowed just one baserunner.

Can you name the two Phillies who tossed no-hitters against our Redlegs and also who was the lone Reds' baserunner in each of the no-hit losses???

Rick Wise - Johnny Bench?

RedTeamGo!
04-07-2023, 04:01 PM
Roy Halladay is one

Tony Cloninger
04-07-2023, 04:02 PM
****************** S C O R E B O A R D S T U M P E R ********************************

Two Phillies' pitchers have thrown no-hitters against the Reds. In each of the no-no's , the pitcher allowed just one baserunner.

Can you name the two Phillies who tossed no-hitters against our Redlegs and also who was the lone Reds' baserunner in each of the no-hit losses???

Rick Wise.

Don’t know the runner.

NebraskaRed
04-07-2023, 04:03 PM
Patient hitters having a much better time against Wheeler

TheBigLebowski
04-07-2023, 04:03 PM
Good freaking at bat by my buddy the Viking

Ron Madden
04-07-2023, 04:04 PM
Top 4

TJ Friedl flies out to center fielder Brandon Marsh. 1 out

Jake Fraley walks.

Tyler Stephenson grounds into a double play, shortstop Trea Turner to second baseman Bryson Stott to first baseman Kody Clemens. Jake Fraley out at 2nd. Tyler Stephenson out at 1st. 3 outs

PHI 1
CIN 0
Mid 4

Tony Cloninger
04-07-2023, 04:04 PM
Seriously ridiculous. Stephenson is usually better than that.

TheBigLebowski
04-07-2023, 04:05 PM
Tyler, for the love of a fried catfish dinner…come on, man.

NebraskaRed
04-07-2023, 04:09 PM
A lot of pitches but Greene seems to have regained control

Ron Madden
04-07-2023, 04:10 PM
Bottom 4

Jake Cave flies out to left fielder Will Benson. 1 out

Kody Clemens flies out to center fielder TJ Friedl. 2 outs

Brandon Marsh flies out to left fielder Will Benson. 3 outs

PHI 1
CIN 0
End of 4

goreds2
04-07-2023, 04:10 PM
Greene 82 pitches after 4 innings.

icehole3
04-07-2023, 04:10 PM
A lot of pitches but Greene seems to have regained control

He's done after 5 IMO

NebraskaRed
04-07-2023, 04:12 PM
Myers just seems completely out of it at the plate

TheBigLebowski
04-07-2023, 04:13 PM
Greene did a really nice job gathering himself in those past 2 innings and even working around some adversity.

Don’t know if he comes back out, but this start has to be viewed as a success.

Whereas nothing Wil Myers has done could be.

icehole3
04-07-2023, 04:13 PM
Wish Ashcraft would teach Hunter how to get movement on his fastball

malcontent
04-07-2023, 04:14 PM
Myers just seems completely out of it at the plate
For $6 million I could stand at the plate with my bat on my shoulder.

NebraskaRed
04-07-2023, 04:15 PM
Steer keeps impressing

Tony Cloninger
04-07-2023, 04:15 PM
You can’t walk yourself off the island but you sure can SO looking your way to the bench. That was too long. Sounded better in my head.

NebraskaRed
04-07-2023, 04:17 PM
Benson looks confident at the plate today.

Tony Cloninger
04-07-2023, 04:17 PM
Benson looking more comfortable and less stressed?

JarrodOnVinyl
04-07-2023, 04:18 PM
Benson looking pretty good today. Great AB

TheBigLebowski
04-07-2023, 04:18 PM
I guess many have forgotten SD was trying to give Myers away the past 2 years.

Many seem to be somewhat perplexed by his cold start.

I know he’s not this bad, but he’s not very good and hasn’t been for a bit.

icehole3
04-07-2023, 04:18 PM
Nice Benson, got that monkey off his bat.

NebraskaRed
04-07-2023, 04:19 PM
Yes!

TheBigLebowski
04-07-2023, 04:19 PM
Benson is looking a lot better today.

JarrodOnVinyl
04-07-2023, 04:19 PM
Yes!

icehole3
04-07-2023, 04:19 PM
Let's GO! Let's GO! Let's GO! Let's GO!
https://media.tenor.com/mHjOCBGRBzIAAAAM/speedball-saturday-night-fever.gif

Tony Cloninger
04-07-2023, 04:19 PM
The 2 easy outs say Excuse Meeee?

NebraskaRed
04-07-2023, 04:20 PM
I guess many have forgotten SD was trying to give Myers away the past 2 years.

Many seem to be somewhat perplexed by his cold start.

I know he’s not this bad, but he’s not very good and hasn’t been for a bit.

I didn't have high expectations for him or anything, but watching him at the plate, I'd believe it if you told me he had taken an edible before the game. He looks like he's a million miles away.

TheBigLebowski
04-07-2023, 04:20 PM
Benson draws a really nice walk then Barrero lines one up the middle for an RBI.

Such largesse!!

Tony Cloninger
04-07-2023, 04:22 PM
I didn't have high expectations for him or anything, but watching him at the plate, I'd believe it if you told me he had taken an edible before the game. He looks like he's a million miles away.


That’s a great song by the Plimsouls.

Are you saying he’s. Eight Miles High?

Ron Madden
04-07-2023, 04:23 PM
Top 5

Wil Myers called out on strikes. 1 out

Jason Vosler pops out to third baseman Alec Bohm. 2 outs

Spencer Steer doubles (2) on a line drive to left fielder Jake Cave.

Will Benson walks.

Jose Barrero singles on a line drive to center fielder Brandon Marsh. Spencer Steer scores. Will Benson to 3rd.

Jonathan India strikes out swinging. 3 outs

PHI 1
CIN 1
Mid 5

NebraskaRed
04-07-2023, 04:24 PM
That was an interesting situation there. Wheeler couldn't throw over again. Too bad he didn't get rattled and balk and Benson would have scored.

TheBigLebowski
04-07-2023, 04:25 PM
I didn't have high expectations for him or anything, but watching him at the plate, I'd believe it if you told me he had taken an edible before the game. He looks like he's a million miles away.

Oh, I agree, it looks like he’s checked out. I just don’t think he’s going to make any meaningful difference when the high wears off. Don’t think he’s a MLB starter anymore.

NebraskaRed
04-07-2023, 04:26 PM
Well, that was a fast

Smjjaz
04-07-2023, 04:28 PM
I'm afraid Hunters not a pitcher yet. Haven't seen much of the change up he used in spring. He's a 5 inning pitcher until he learns to be more efficient.

TheBigLebowski
04-07-2023, 04:29 PM
Wheeler got that call 3 times last inning alone. That’s garbage.

NebraskaRed
04-07-2023, 04:30 PM
Hopefully they can limit this to a 1 run lead and get Wheeler out of the game soon.

TheBigLebowski
04-07-2023, 04:31 PM
Didn’t like when they took him out against the Pirates. Not crazy about this one either, but I understand.

Tony Cloninger
04-07-2023, 04:32 PM
I'm afraid Hunters not a pitcher yet. Haven't seen much of the change up he used in spring. He's a 5 inning pitcher until he learns to be more efficient.


He has no confidence in it? Why wouldn’t he use it more at this point A mystery it is.

TheBigLebowski
04-07-2023, 04:35 PM
Whew

Tony Cloninger
04-07-2023, 04:35 PM
Just throw to first Steer. Jeepers with again a little thing biting them on the ass again.

NebraskaRed
04-07-2023, 04:36 PM
Yeah, Steer goofed there.

TheBigLebowski
04-07-2023, 04:36 PM
S********.

NebraskaRed
04-07-2023, 04:38 PM
No harm done, but hopefully that's a learning experience for Steer

Ron Madden
04-07-2023, 04:38 PM
Bottom 5

Trea Turner singles on a ground ball to center fielder TJ Friedl.

Kyle Schwarber doubles (1) on a line drive to right fielder Wil Myers. Trea Turner scores.

J.T. Realmuto pops out to third baseman Spencer Steer. 1 out

Nick Castellanos strikes out swinging. 2 outs

Pitching Change: Alex Young replaces Hunter Greene.

Phillies challenged (play at 1st), call on the field was overturned: Bryson Stott singles on a ground ball to third baseman Spencer Steer. Kyle Schwarber to 3rd.

Alec Bohm grounds into a force out, shortstop Jose Barrero to second baseman Jonathan India. Bryson Stott out at 2nd. 3 outs

PHI 2
CIN 1
After 5

TheBigLebowski
04-07-2023, 04:38 PM
Good work, Mr Young.

NebraskaRed
04-07-2023, 04:41 PM
Nice double

Ky Fried Redleg
04-07-2023, 04:42 PM
SCOREBOARD STUMPER ANSWER :

1. Rick Wise ('71) ; Dave Concepcion walked (this was the game Wise also hit 2 HRs)

2. Roy Halladay('10) ; Jay Bruce walked


Speaking of Rick Wise , on two different occasions he was traded for a guy that ended up being selected for the Hall of Fame. Can you name each of the HOF'ers that Wise was traded for?

icehole3
04-07-2023, 04:42 PM
Good work, Mr Young.

I like Young he should be a starter after Ashcraft.

cumberlandreds
04-07-2023, 04:43 PM
****************** S C O R E B O A R D S T U M P E R ********************************

Two Phillies' pitchers have thrown no-hitters against the Reds. In each of the no-no's , the pitcher allowed just one baserunner.

Can you name the two Phillies who tossed no-hitters against our Redlegs and also who was the lone Reds' baserunner in each of the no-hit losses???

Wise and Halladay are tthe pitchers. No idea the runners.

icehole3
04-07-2023, 04:44 PM
Stevenson needs to get this RBI

NebraskaRed
04-07-2023, 04:44 PM
Yes!

icehole3
04-07-2023, 04:44 PM
Nice

NebraskaRed
04-07-2023, 04:44 PM
Now take the lead here

Tony Cloninger
04-07-2023, 04:45 PM
Why was Cessna not the 4th starter to begin with.

Anyways. Stephenson looking like the big middle of lineup hitter this team needs.

TheBigLebowski
04-07-2023, 04:45 PM
There ya go TY

Cop-A-Freel
04-07-2023, 04:47 PM
Need Myers here. Can't be having all these backwards Ks.

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I'm afraid Hunters not a pitcher yet. Haven't seen much of the change up he used in spring. He's a 5 inning pitcher until he learns to be more efficient.

I think the pitch clock is kicking his butt, especially with guys on base. I think he's getting very rattled.

Ky Fried Redleg
04-07-2023, 04:48 PM
Why was Cessna not the 4th starter to begin with.

Anyways. Stephenson looking like the big middle of lineup hitter this team needs.

Should be. I've always liked Cessa. He usually good for a solid five. Should be : #4 Cessa , #5 Young

757690
04-07-2023, 04:48 PM
At least Myers didn’t strike out looking.

Strikes Out Looking
04-07-2023, 04:49 PM
Rick Wise was traded for Steve Carlton.

Was he also traded for Tony Perez later in his career?

Cop-A-Freel
04-07-2023, 04:49 PM
Vosler could add a major piece to his MVP campaign right here.

icehole3
04-07-2023, 04:49 PM
Myers
https://media.tenor.com/HbOa4f_yGTkAAAAd/cat-facepalm.gif

TheBigLebowski
04-07-2023, 04:49 PM
Not sure how much more of Myers I can stomach.

757690
04-07-2023, 04:49 PM
Why was Cessna not the 4th starter to begin with.

They wanted to give Cessa an extra day since he missed time playing in the WBC

Tony Cloninger
04-07-2023, 04:49 PM
At least make a productive out. Saber heads scream in disgust!

TheBigLebowski
04-07-2023, 04:50 PM
Wise and Halladay are tthe pitchers. No idea the runners.

I recall Phillips being the runner against Halladay but I could be wrong

Ky Fried Redleg
04-07-2023, 04:50 PM
Rick Wise was traded for Steve Carlton.

Was he also traded for Tony Perez later in his career?

https://gifdb.com/images/file/cat-shaking-head-no-t6vqcphfim9n5b1b.gif

Tony Cloninger
04-07-2023, 04:51 PM
They wanted to give Cessa an extra day since he missed time playing in the WBC

I was NOT aware of that. Thanks.

Ky Fried Redleg
04-07-2023, 04:51 PM
Sure would love to find a way to win this one. Would help stave off a disastrous weekend.

NebraskaRed
04-07-2023, 04:51 PM
Compare the ABs of Vosler and Myers. I'll stop criticizing him now, but he has looked so bad

Ron Madden
04-07-2023, 04:54 PM
Top 6

TJ Friedl doubles (1) on a line drive to center fielder Brandon Marsh.

Jake Fraley grounds out to first baseman Kody Clemens. TJ Friedl to 3rd. 1 out

Tyler Stephenson doubles (2) on a sharp line drive to left fielder Jake Cave. TJ Friedl scores.

Pitching Change: Andrew Bellatti replaces Zack Wheeler

Wil Myers pops out to first baseman Kody Clemens in foul territory. 2 outs

Jason Vosler walks.

Spencer Steer strikes out swinging. 3 outs

CIN 2
PHI 2
Mid 6

Ky Fried Redleg
04-07-2023, 04:56 PM
del

Tony Cloninger
04-07-2023, 04:58 PM
They wanted to give Cessa an extra day since he missed time playing in the WBC

Well they can always skip Conner at some point. He’s not really ready to go long anyways. He was hurt right? I was Not aware or forgot about Cessa and his WBC stint.

Ron Madden
04-07-2023, 05:00 PM
Bottom 6

Jake Cave strikes out swinging. 1 out

Kody Clemens strikes out swinging. 2 outs

Brandon Marsh strikes out swinging. 3 outs

CIN 2
PHI 2
End of 6

icehole3
04-07-2023, 05:00 PM
Young
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Kc61
04-07-2023, 05:00 PM
Alex Young strikes out the side, he’s murder on LHH. Good pickup by Reds.

NCReds
04-07-2023, 05:01 PM
Strong inning there from young. A lot of bad swings from the Phils

TheBigLebowski
04-07-2023, 05:01 PM
Don’t hurt ‘em, Mighty Alex Young!

Sassy Sal
04-07-2023, 05:01 PM
Bottom 6

Jake Cave strikes out swinging. 1 out

Kody Clemens strikes out swinging. 2 outs

Brandon Marsh strikes out swinging. 3 outs

CIN 2
PHI 2
End of 6

Impressive.

TheBigLebowski
04-07-2023, 05:04 PM
Balls are dying in the air today. No carry

NebraskaRed
04-07-2023, 05:05 PM
Barrero was robbed

Ron Madden
04-07-2023, 05:06 PM
Top 7

Pinch-hitter Stuart Fairchild replaces Will Benson.

Stuart Fairchild flies out to center fielder Brandon Marsh. 1 out

Jose Barrero lines out to center fielder Brandon Marsh. 2 outs

Jonathan India flies out to right fielder Nick Castellanos. 3 outs

CIN 2
PHI 2
Mid 7

Ironman92
04-07-2023, 05:09 PM
Let’s win!

757690
04-07-2023, 05:09 PM
Barrero is making better contact. If he actually can hit MLB pitching, just a little bit, that changes the entire dynamic of this team, not just this season, but the next few seasons as well.

Tony Cloninger
04-07-2023, 05:09 PM
Don’t care for the PH of Benson when he’s actually looking better and more confident/comfortable.

PH for the hitter who’s been terrible and would matter what hand the pitcher is throwing from. The other Will I am.

malcontent
04-07-2023, 05:11 PM
Law got screwed there.

NebraskaRed
04-07-2023, 05:11 PM
Should have been a K and instead it's a lead off single

757690
04-07-2023, 05:12 PM
A little nervous about this inning

Smjjaz
04-07-2023, 05:12 PM
Is it me, or have we been getting squeezed a lot by the umps???

TheBigLebowski
04-07-2023, 05:13 PM
Home plate ump is killing the Reds.

NebraskaRed
04-07-2023, 05:15 PM
19386

"Ball 2"

TheBigLebowski
04-07-2023, 05:16 PM
That’s a killer

Sassy Sal
04-07-2023, 05:17 PM
That’s a killer

No doubt.

Smjjaz
04-07-2023, 05:17 PM
When you have to get 4 or 5 strikes per out, that was inevitable

TheBigLebowski
04-07-2023, 05:18 PM
No doubt.

One of those runs belongs to that moron behind the plate.

Sassy Sal
04-07-2023, 05:21 PM
One of those runs belongs to that moron behind the plate.

It seems like it just gets worse.

NebraskaRed
04-07-2023, 05:23 PM
Not India's best day

Ky Fried Redleg
04-07-2023, 05:24 PM
RICK WISE was traded from the Phils to the Cardinals in 1972 for Steve Carlton. In '78 , the Red Sox sent Wise to Cleveland in exchange for Dennis Eckersley (Former Red , Bo Diaz, also went to Cleveland with Wise in that trade)

Another Reds/Wise connection --- In '73, Wise was traded from the Cards to the Red Sox. Who, along with Wise, went to the Red Sox from St. Louis ... ? None other than former Red, Bernie Carbo.

Flash back for a moment to game 6 of the WS in '75. Who had the big PH 3-run dinger off Rawley Eastwick that tied the game? BERNIE CARBO. Who was the winning pitcher in Game 6 ? That's right... RICK WISE !!!!! And now you know... the rest... of the story!!!

NebraskaRed
04-07-2023, 05:25 PM
Not India's best day

No seriously, what is wrong with India today?

Ron Madden
04-07-2023, 05:29 PM
Bottom 7

Trea Turner singles on a ground ball to center fielder TJ Friedl

Kyle Schwarber flies out to center fielder TJ Friedl. 1 out

J.T. Realmuto homers (1) on a fly ball to left center field. Trea Turner scores.

Nick Castellanos walks.

Pitching Change: Reiver Sanmartin replaces Derek Law.

Bryson Stott grounds into a force out, second baseman Jonathan India to shortstop Jose Barrero. Nick Castellanos out at 2nd. Bryson Stott to 1st. 2 outs

Alec Bohm singles on a ground ball to second baseman Jonathan India. Bryson Stott to 2nd.

Pinch-hitter Josh Harrison replaces Jake Cave.

Wild pitch by pitcher Reiver Sanmartin. Bryson Stott to 3rd. Alec Bohm to 2nd.

Josh Harrison lines out to center fielder TJ Friedl. 3 outs

PHI 4
CIN 2
After 7

Tony Cloninger
04-07-2023, 05:30 PM
Fully confident with Lodolo and Ashcraft going that this will be a positive weekend.

Ky Fried Redleg
04-07-2023, 05:33 PM
Fully confident with Lodolo and Ashcraft going that this will be a positive weekend.

Love your confidence. Wish I had some of it. Feels a little like the Phils righting the ship a bit this weekend. Hope not!!!

Tony Cloninger
04-07-2023, 05:33 PM
No seriously, what is wrong with India today?

He’s not a good defensive 2B. Have been saying he should move to LF. See if MM can play 2nd?

Ron Madden
04-07-2023, 05:34 PM
Top 8

Pitching Change: Jose Alvarado replaces Gregory Soto

TJ Friedl strikes out swinging. 1 out

Jake Fraley called out on strikes. 2 outs

Tyler Stephenson strikes out swinging. 3 outs

PHI 4
CIN 2
Mid 8

icehole3
04-07-2023, 05:36 PM
He’s not a good defensive 2B. Have been saying he should move to LF. See if MM can play 2nd?

I'm ready for Matt McLaunch

Ky Fried Redleg
04-07-2023, 05:37 PM
I wonder how many ties or leads the Reds BP will give up in the 7th, 8th, and 9th innings this season? Nothing more demoralizing.

Tony Cloninger
04-07-2023, 05:38 PM
Love your confidence. Wish I had some of it. Feels a little like the Phils righting the ship a bit this weekend. Hope not!!!

Based on this game? They still have injury issues with position players. The next 2 starters look more ready to pitch the Greene has. But sure if the home crowd gets behind them and the younger Reds start panicking then I will be wrong.

Old school 1983
04-07-2023, 05:38 PM
I wonder how many ties or leads the Reds BP will give up in the 7th, 8th, and 9th innings this season? Nothing more demoralizing.

If this team even had a meh bullpen they’d be interesting.

j.u.FAIRFIIELD
04-07-2023, 05:40 PM
It is significantly less painful to forget that the game started early in the day, knowing that Derek Law's contribution to society is that he probably hasn't run over small animals trying to cross the road.

Ron Madden
04-07-2023, 05:41 PM
Bottom 8

Pinch-hitter Edmundo Sosa replaces Kody Clemens.

Edmundo Sosa homers (1) on a fly ball to left center field.

Brandon Marsh grounds out, first baseman Jason Vosler to pitcher Reiver Sanmartin. 1 out

Trea Turner strikes out swinging. 2 outs

Kyle Schwarber grounds out, shortstop Jose Barrero to first baseman Jason Vosler. 3 outs

PHI 5
CIN 2
End of 8

NebraskaRed
04-07-2023, 05:42 PM
Come on Reds, light up Kimbrel

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Myers with a nice hit

Ky Fried Redleg
04-07-2023, 05:44 PM
If this team even had a meh bullpen they’d be interesting.

You're correct. Give me a three or four solid backend guys that you can count on in 7-9 and I'll take my chances.

goreds2
04-07-2023, 05:45 PM
Let’s go!

NebraskaRed
04-07-2023, 05:49 PM
Time for a Barrero bomb to tie the game

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Just kidding he weakly ground out on the first pitch

j.u.FAIRFIIELD
04-07-2023, 05:50 PM
We had 'em until the cows came home.

Tony Cloninger
04-07-2023, 05:50 PM
I was just about to say be patient Jose. Then he swings at Ball 1

Ron Madden
04-07-2023, 05:50 PM
Top 9

Wil Myers singles on a line drive to left fielder Cristian

Jason Vosler strikes out swinging. 1 out

Spencer Steer flies out to right fielder Nick Castellanos. 2 outs

Stuart Fairchild walks.

Jose Barrero grounds into a force out, shortstop Trea Turner to second baseman Bryson Stott. Stuart Fairchild out at 2nd. 3 outs

PHI 5
CIN 2
Final Score

TheBigLebowski
04-07-2023, 05:52 PM
That was a rough one.

Ron Madden
04-07-2023, 05:53 PM
Box Score

https://www.mlb.com/gameday/reds-vs-phillies/2023/04/07/718685/live/box

NebraskaRed
04-07-2023, 05:53 PM
The two run home run didn't help, of course, but Law had to end up getting 6 or 7 outs in that inning.

But also, the anemic offense wasn't doing this team any favors either.

Ky Fried Redleg
04-07-2023, 05:53 PM
I was just about to say be patient Jose. Then he swings at Ball 1

When have the Reds, as a collective unit, had a good solid approach at the plate?

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Phillies have gotta be thinking they are gonna get well this weekend.

klw
04-07-2023, 05:56 PM
Fully confident with Lodolo and Ashcraft going that this will be a positive weekend.

I agree if, if every game is cut short by rain after 6 innings.

Kc61
04-07-2023, 05:56 PM
It’s ok, it’ll all work out.

Not this year, but at some point, someday.

Ron Madden
04-07-2023, 05:56 PM
Ahh, it could of been worse. At least it wasn't a blow out like many games last year.

We got the tying run to the plate in the 9th

Tony Cloninger
04-07-2023, 06:06 PM
When have the Reds, as a collective unit, had a good solid approach at the plate?

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Phillies have gotta be thinking they are gonna get well this weekend.


The patient part. For most of the Reds it seems to come and go. They are always more in being aggressive. Then when they decide to be patient they seem to end up taking good pitches.

No one sane ever gets well in Philadelphia.

757690
04-07-2023, 06:09 PM
The Reds may not win more games this season than they won last season, but just judging from this first week, the games will at least be less painful to watch.

Ron Madden
04-07-2023, 06:11 PM
I wonder what the home plate umpire's score card is gonna look like

j.u.FAIRFIIELD
04-07-2023, 06:32 PM
I would love to see them win 12 games this month and edge upward from that every month.
That is very unrealistic to think they will be at 16 wins in September, but 13 wins a month is possibly 3rd place.

Old school 1983
04-07-2023, 07:36 PM
You're correct. Give me a three or four solid backend guys that you can count on in 7-9 and I'll take my chances.

Hell I’d take meh Sims and Santillian as an improvement.

Kingspoint
04-07-2023, 10:46 PM
RICK WISE was traded from the Phils to the Cardinals in 1972 for Steve Carlton. In '78 , the Red Sox sent Wise to Cleveland in exchange for Dennis Eckersley (Former Red , Bo Diaz, also went to Cleveland with Wise in that trade)

Another Reds/Wise connection --- In '73, Wise was traded from the Cards to the Red Sox. Who, along with Wise, went to the Red Sox from St. Louis ... ? None other than former Red, Bernie Carbo.

Flash back for a moment to game 6 of the WS in '75. Who had the big PH 3-run dinger off Rawley Eastwick that tied the game? BERNIE CARBO. Who was the winning pitcher in Game 6 ? That's right... RICK WISE !!!!! And now you know... the rest... of the story!!!

...and he attended the High School I refused to go to after moving into our arch-rival's school district in September ('73) of my freshman year. For four years I made the commute.

Kingspoint
04-07-2023, 10:50 PM
When have the Reds, as a collective unit, had a good solid approach at the plate?

.

The Big Red Machine

Lou's Reds.

j.u.FAIRFIIELD
04-07-2023, 11:09 PM
The Big Red Machine

Lou's Reds.

I'd argue that the 2006-2007 Reds would club the current NL-C teams to a pulp. Collective OPS with pitchers hitting was well over .700.

https://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/CIN/2007.shtml


Unfortunately, the pitching.

Redsfan6272
04-08-2023, 01:33 AM
The Big Red Machine

Lou's Reds.

Dont forget the 99 Reds!

goreds2
04-08-2023, 08:21 AM
Hopefully Will Benson can have a break out game.

Not a breakout game but he did go 1 for 1 with a walk.

GAC
04-08-2023, 01:35 PM
I live about an hour west of Baltimore and they had forecasted thunderstorms for yesterday afternoon. Didn't get a drop of rain. Just sheer stupidity to call games off a day in advance of just normal rain predicted. If it was a hurricane then it s a different story. But otherwise plan to play.

When they cancelled I thought "Well, the storms that just hit us here in Ohia are moving eastward, so they got hit twice from the same front."

Guess not (lol). IMO, meteorologists are having a bad year like umpires. They sure are missing it a lot here in central Ohia IMO (lol).

Ron Madden
04-08-2023, 04:19 PM
Wrong Thread