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Ron Madden
04-22-2023, 02:07 PM
Reds
1. Jonathan India (R) 2B
2. Spencer Steer (R) 3B
3. Stuart Fairchild (R) LF
4. Tyler Stephenson (R) DH
5. Wil Myers (R) 1B
6. Kevin Newman (R) SS
7. Nick Senzel (R) RF
8. Jose Barrero (R) CF
9. Curt Casali (R) C
P. Luis Cessa (R)


Pirates
1. Ke'Bryan Hayes (R) 3B
2. Bryan Reynolds (S) LF
3. Connor Joe (R) 1B
4. Carlos Santana (S) DH
5. Jack Suwinski (L) RF
6. Rodolfo Castro (S) SS
7. Ji Hwan Bae (L) CF
8. Tucupita Marcano (L) 2B
9. Austin Hedges (R) C
P. Rich Hill (L)

Tony Cloninger
04-22-2023, 02:30 PM
Not sitting Friedl. Just don’t like that. This team needs all the hitting it can get.

NebraskaRed
04-22-2023, 02:38 PM
Good to see Barrero in center. If he's going to play, that's where he should be.

mhs95_06
04-22-2023, 03:06 PM
Not sitting Friedl. Just don’t like that. This team needs all the hitting it can get.

He'll be in soon after they get a righty on the mound. Do the Pirates have any good lefties in the bullpen?

Tony Cloninger
04-22-2023, 03:35 PM
He'll be in soon after they get a righty on the mound. Do the Pirates have any good lefties in the bullpen?


No idea. My mind only goes to Bob Veale. Ramon Hernandez. Grant Jackson.

goreds2
04-22-2023, 04:33 PM
6 PM
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rain drop 55%

7 PM
58°
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rain drop 51%

8 PM
56°
RealFeel® 52°
rain drop 25%

9 PM
55°
RealFeel® 51°
rain drop 20%

10 PM
53°
RealFeel® 49°
rain drop 20%

https://www.accuweather.com/en/us/pittsburgh/15219/hourly-weather-forecast/1310

Reds Freak
04-22-2023, 04:34 PM
Not a lot of hope for the Redlegs in this one. Although I felt good about a couple games this week that ended with Jason Vosler on the mound so we'll see.

NebraskaRed
04-22-2023, 04:45 PM
I think the Reds win this one.

I reserve the right to mock this prediction once Cessa gives up 5 runs in the first.

Ron Madden
04-22-2023, 05:34 PM
Nick Senzel playing RF... First time ever?

Kc61
04-22-2023, 05:36 PM
Nick Senzel playing RF... First time ever?

Played some corner OF in spring training.

Cadenza
04-22-2023, 06:04 PM
Not sitting Friedl. Just don’t like that. This team needs all the hitting it can get.

What difference does it make. The reds are a pathetic baseball team. In other words a bad bunch of bums. Even if Frank Robinson and George Foster were in this lineup they still wouldn’t win. The bullpen would just blow the game in the late innings. I am ready to write them off for the rest of the season.

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Then I guess he has his stuff tonight-only five runs?

757690
04-22-2023, 06:24 PM
The game is officially in delay. Looks like whatever they are experiencing, will pass rather quickly.

Ron Madden
04-22-2023, 06:26 PM
What difference does it make. The reds are a pathetic baseball team. In other words a bad bunch of bums. Even if Frank Robinson and George Foster were in this lineup they still wouldn’t win. The bullpen would just blow the game in the late innings. I am ready to write them off for the rest of the season.

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Go ahead and write them off for the rest of the season if that's what you believe.

I just hope if you do write'em off you'll stop coming here and whining about'em every game.

j.u.FAIRFIIELD
04-22-2023, 06:32 PM
He'll be in soon after they get a righty on the mound. Do the Pirates have any good lefties in the bullpen?

Against the rest of the league, no.
Against the Reds, it's the best in history.

757690
04-22-2023, 06:42 PM
Estimated start time 7 pm est

Btw, the rain never came.

KeefeCato
04-22-2023, 06:58 PM
Go ahead and write them off for the rest of the season if that's what you believe.

I just hope if you do write'em off you'll stop coming here and whining about'em every game.

Thanks

Ron Madden
04-22-2023, 07:00 PM
Thanks

Good to hear from you Keefe!

TheBigLebowski
04-22-2023, 07:03 PM
India with a very poor AB to lead things off

TheBigLebowski
04-22-2023, 07:06 PM
I think we’re gonna see a Red or two get the heave tonight. Been ugly lately and they’ve got too be close to boiling over.

Jomama
04-22-2023, 07:07 PM
Let's see if Cessa can lower his ERA tonight. I'd say it's about a coin flip.

Reds Freak
04-22-2023, 07:08 PM
Wil Myers swinging like he expected Hill to throw mid-90s.

Ron Madden
04-22-2023, 07:08 PM
Top 1

Jonathan India strikes out swinging. 1 out

Spencer Steer strikes out swinging. 2 outs

Stuart Fairchild singles on a fly ball to right fielder Jack Suwinski.

Tyler Stephenson singles on a line drive to left fielder Bryan Reynolds. Stuart Fairchild to 3rd.

Wil Myers strikes out swinging. 3 outs

No score
Mid 1

757690
04-22-2023, 07:09 PM
Hill is exactly the kind of pitcher that gives Reds hitters fits. Not expecting much tonight from the Reds offense

TheBigLebowski
04-22-2023, 07:09 PM
Thanks…..Wil.

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(your name here) is exactly the kind of pitcher that gives Reds hitters fits. Not expecting much tonight from the Reds offense

Fixed it for you.

Tony Cloninger
04-22-2023, 07:11 PM
I know there’s rule about personal insults but is Myers a moron?

Still standing off the plate. Still trying to pull pitches that if he was closer to the plate would make sense. Then swings like he’s facing prime Mario Soto on a change up. If that makes sense. He was fooled by someone throwing even slower slow pitches.

Reds Freak
04-22-2023, 07:11 PM
Circus act in the outfield.

Gainesville Red
04-22-2023, 07:12 PM
Hoooooo boy.

Kc61
04-22-2023, 07:12 PM
Circus act in the outfield.

I thought CF was Barrero’s better position?

TheBigLebowski
04-22-2023, 07:13 PM
Barrero is bad anywhere you put him.

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I know there’s rule about personal insults but is Myers a moron?

Still standing off the plate. Still trying to pull pitches that if he was closer to the plate would make sense. Then swings like he’s facing prime Mario Soto on a change up. If that makes sense. He was fooled by someone throwing even slower slow pitches.

Not sure if he’s a moron. I can say with confidence he’s no longer a good hitter.

Sassy Sal
04-22-2023, 07:15 PM
Barrero is bad anywhere you put him.

I don't like the idea of moving him around defensively. Pick a position so the player can learn it or move someone else up that can do the job. SS or CF or wherever.

RedTeamGo!
04-22-2023, 07:15 PM
Barrero is turning into the major league equivalent of “fetch” from Mean Girls. Stop trying to make Barrero happen. It’s NOT going to happen.

Ron Madden
04-22-2023, 07:16 PM
Bottom 1

Ke'Bryan Hayes triples (2) on a line drive to right fielder Nick Senzel.

Bryan Reynolds out on a sacrifice fly to left fielder Stuart Fairchild. Ke'Bryan Hayes scores. 1 out

Connor Joe called out on strikes. 2 outs



Carlos Santana grounds out, shortstop Kevin Newman to first baseman Wil Myers. 3 outs

PIT 1
CIN 0
After 1

Tony Cloninger
04-22-2023, 07:16 PM
Barrero is bad anywhere you put him.

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Not sure if he’s a moron. I can say with confidence he’s no longer a good hitter.


Baseball IQ wise? He’s doing whatever dissent work very well.

I’ve just had enough of watching him and Barrero at this point.

Reds Freak
04-22-2023, 07:17 PM
I thought CF was Barrero’s better position?

I find it hard to blame Barrero too much. How often has he been out there? I find position versatility to be a bit overrated. Not everyone has to be a utility player. Find positions for guys and leave them there.

mhs95_06
04-22-2023, 07:20 PM
On Hayes triple, like Schwarber did scoring from first on a hit to the LF corner, Hayes recognized his advantage of running on the same line that the throw would be coming from. Both were safe as one throw plunked Schwarber and the other India chose to throw it high to avoid the runner gave enough time for the runner to make it. So far the difference in the game, similar to last night was a Barerro miscue.

RedTeamGo!
04-22-2023, 07:20 PM
I find it hard to blame Barrero too much. How often has he been out there? I find position versatility to be a bit overrated. Not everyone has to be a utility player. Find positions for guys and leave them there.

I think they are simply getting ready for the call up of EDLC or McLain to play short. Barrero is not good, so might as well see if he can play other positions.

phlbilly
04-22-2023, 07:20 PM
I guess it doesn’t matter what Senzel does. He is going to play every day. It’s just a joke that this guy is still on the roster.

757690
04-22-2023, 07:22 PM
Much better first inning for Cessa. And that should have been an unearned run.

Ron Madden
04-22-2023, 07:25 PM
Top 2

Kevin Newman pops out to first baseman Connor Joe. 1 out

Nick Senzel pops out to second baseman Tucupita Marcano. 2 outs

Jose Barrero singles on a line drive to left fielder Bryan Reynolds

Jose Barrero steals (2) 2nd base.

Curt Casali walks

Jonathan India flies out to right fielder Jack Suwinski. 3 outs

PIT 1
CIN 0
Mid 2

NebraskaRed
04-22-2023, 07:25 PM
Once again, the Reds just can't take advantage of opportunities

Tony Cloninger
04-22-2023, 07:26 PM
Just because everyone is doing the multi position versatility stuff doesn’t mean it works for everyone. I remember stone washed jeans being a thing that everyone was doing.

Hanging 0-1 pitch for you India. Famine.

Reds Freak
04-22-2023, 07:26 PM
I think they are simply getting ready for the call up of EDLC or McLain to play short. Barrero is not good, so might as well see if he can play other positions.

Even then, it seems like they don't know what positions these guys are going to play. I get the Reds are trying to answer a lot of questions right now, but I think there's some value in continuity. How many guys know where they'll be in the field on a given day? India? Maybe Steer?

RedTeamGo!
04-22-2023, 07:26 PM
I guess it doesn’t matter what Senzel does. He is going to play every day. It’s just a joke that this guy is still on the roster.

Once you realize nothing actually matters this season and it’s just a 6 month tryout for the following 2-5 years it will all make a lot more sense to you.

757690
04-22-2023, 07:26 PM
Typical Hill inning. Lots of action but no runs scored.

RedTeamGo!
04-22-2023, 07:27 PM
Even then, it seems like they don't know what positions these guys are going to play. I get the Reds are trying to answer a lot of questions right now, but I think there's some value in continuity. How many guys know where they'll be in the field on a given day? India? Maybe Steer?

How many guys on the Reds should know where they are playing on a given day? Again, this is a season long tryout. The reds are finding out Barrero isn’t worth keeping around.

Ron Madden
04-22-2023, 07:30 PM
Bottom 2

Jack Suwinski strikes out swinging. 1 out

Rodolfo Castro grounds out to first baseman Wil Myers. 2 outs

Ji Hwan Bae pops out to shortstop Kevin Newman in foul territory. 3 outs

PIT 1
CIN 0
End of 2

Reds Freak
04-22-2023, 07:32 PM
How many guys on the Reds should know where they are playing on a given day? Again, this is a season long tryout. The reds are finding out Barrero isn’t worth keeping around.

I'd say more than one. I don't think it helps a guy like Senzel to get to the park and have his manager pull a position out of a hat for him to play. Senzel might be a bad example since he's likely not around much longer, but I don't want EDLC, McLain, CES, etc. coming up and having to play five different positions.

mhs95_06
04-22-2023, 07:33 PM
Steer has a good eye if the umps call the pitches correctly.

RedTeamGo!
04-22-2023, 07:36 PM
I'd say more than one. I don't think it helps a guy like Senzel to get to the park and have his manager pull a position out of a hat for him to play. Senzel might be a bad example since he's likely not around much longer, but I don't want EDLC, McLain, CES, etc. coming up and having to play five different positions.

I don’t think that’s going to happen with EDLC, McLain, CES, etc - I think they are figuring out where they are going to play in the minors and, again, this is just a season long tryout for next year and beyond. They are seeing it Senzel, Barrero, etc can carve out a place on the team moving forward. Barrero is not going to be the SS for the Reds next year. Why only have him play SS?

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In what world are these pitches to Newman strikes?

Ron Madden
04-22-2023, 07:38 PM
Top 3

Spencer Steer walks

Stuart Fairchild walks. Spencer Steer to 2nd.

Tyler Stephenson strikes out swinging. 1 out

Wil Myers strikes out swinging. 2 outs

Kevin Newman grounds into a force out, second baseman Tucupita Marcano to shortstop Rodolfo Castro. Stuart Fairchild out at 2nd. 3 outs

PIT 1
CIN 0
Mid 3

NebraskaRed
04-22-2023, 07:39 PM
Once again, the Reds just can't take advantage of opportunities

And again, and again

RedTeamGo!
04-22-2023, 07:41 PM
And again, and again

I can’t blame that AB on the Reds or Newman. He started out 0-2 on two pitches a foot and a half off the plate. Ridiculous.

TheBigLebowski
04-22-2023, 07:41 PM
I’m almost out of adjectives. I’m at “reprehensible” now. This is the worst lineup I can recall.

Reds Freak
04-22-2023, 07:42 PM
I don’t think that’s going to happen with EDLC, McLain, CES, etc - I think they are figuring out where they are going to play in the minors and, again, this is just a season long tryout for next year and beyond. They are seeing it Senzel, Barrero, etc can carve out a place on the team moving forward. Barrero is not going to be the SS for the Reds next year. Why only have him play SS?

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In what world are these pitches to Newman strikes?

Yea, I get it's a season long tryout. I'm not getting too worked up about wins and losses.

But I just don't like the trend of position versatility for non-utility type players. Could be part of the reason why the Reds defense has stunk the last several years, I think there's something to be said for developing rapport and a rhythm with the defenders around you. It also doesn't help the young pitchers any and adds to their pitch counts.

NebraskaRed
04-22-2023, 07:44 PM
Nice K there

Tony Cloninger
04-22-2023, 07:44 PM
Normally a pitcher walks someone he gets burned. This guy walks 2 and the guy you expect to do something can’t. The guy you expect nothing from looks even worse flailing at wiffle balls.

I’m starting to channel my inner Brenneman with my rage.

NebraskaRed
04-22-2023, 07:46 PM
Since Myers had 4 hits in a game a week ago, he's had one hit and struck out 10 times, including twice today.

Ron Madden
04-22-2023, 07:46 PM
Bottom 3

Tucupita Marcano doubles (2) on a sharp line drive to right fielder Nick Senzel.

Austin Hedges out on a sacrifice bunt, catcher Curt Casali to second baseman Jonathan India. Tucupita Marcano to 3rd. 1 out

Ke'Bryan Hayes called out on strikes. 2 outs

Bryan Reynolds called out on strikes. 3 outs

PIT 1
CIN 0
After 3

Tony Cloninger
04-22-2023, 07:48 PM
Positives is Cessa pitching better and not being an Eric Milton clone.

Gainesville Red
04-22-2023, 07:52 PM
Positives is Cessa pitching better and not being an Eric Milton clone.

Negatives = Barrero, in general

757690
04-22-2023, 07:53 PM
Barrero with two hits and two dumb plays.

Ron Madden
04-22-2023, 07:53 PM
Top 4

Nick Senzel lines out to center fielder Ji Hwan Bae. 1 out

Jose Barrero singles on a sharp line drive to left fielder Bryan Reynolds.

With Curt Casali batting, Jose Barrero picked off and caught stealing 2nd base, second baseman Tucupita Marcano. 2 outs

Curt Casali called out on strikes. 3 outs

PIT 1
CIN 0
Mid 4

757690
04-22-2023, 07:54 PM
The Reds didn’t leave any runners on base that inning. Does that count as progress?

mhs95_06
04-22-2023, 07:55 PM
Barerro not ready for prime time in any phase of the game!

NebraskaRed
04-22-2023, 07:55 PM
So far, Cessa has been able to stop the powerhouse that is Connor Joe

Reds Freak
04-22-2023, 07:57 PM
When's the last time the Reds had a lead in a game? Monday vs. Tampa?

Kc61
04-22-2023, 07:58 PM
I got other things to do.

And if I don’t, I’ll find something.

Miserable season so far.

Tony Cloninger
04-22-2023, 08:01 PM
I think it all went to their head after that TB victory.

Ron Madden
04-22-2023, 08:01 PM
Bottom 4

Connor Joe pops out to first baseman Wil Myers in foul territory. 1 out

Carlos Santana doubles (8) on a sharp line drive to right fielder Nick Senzel.

Jack Suwinski doubles (2) on a sharp line drive to right fielder Nick Senzel. Carlos Santana scores.

Rodolfo Castro grounds out, second baseman Jonathan India to first baseman Wil Myers. Jack Suwinski to 3rd. 2 outs

Ji Hwan Bae pops out to first baseman Wil Myers in foul territory. 3 outs

PIT 2
CIN 0
End of 4

NebraskaRed
04-22-2023, 08:04 PM
Credit where credit is due, some of those pitches from Hill are mighty pretty.

0-2 Count
04-22-2023, 08:05 PM
You would think we were facing Nolan Ryan

NebraskaRed
04-22-2023, 08:06 PM
Hey, the Reds took advantage of an opportunity!

j.u.FAIRFIIELD
04-22-2023, 08:06 PM
Watching the Chattanoogas and going into the game, they have a combined team batting average of

.168.

mhs95_06
04-22-2023, 08:07 PM
Because the CF thought India would be trying for 3rd, it caused him to err and India got home!

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If CF wasn't charging so hard, the grounder would have been an inning ending DP and Reds still on zero.

NebraskaRed
04-22-2023, 08:10 PM
6 hits, 3 walks, 1 run.

Ron Madden
04-22-2023, 08:10 PM
Top 5

Jonathan India singles on a sharp line drive to center fielder Ji Hwan Bae.

Stuart Fairchild singles on a line drive to center fielder Ji Hwan Bae. Jonathan India scores. Stuart Fairchild to 2nd. Fielding error by center fielder Ji Hwan Bae.

Tyler Stephenson grounds out, third baseman Ke'Bryan Hayes to first baseman Connor Joe. 2 outs

Wil Myers grounds out, shortstop Rodolfo Castro to first baseman Connor Joe. 3 outs

PIT 2
CIN 1
Mid 5

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We've got some weak middle of the order hitters

mhs95_06
04-22-2023, 08:11 PM
Mistakes being made all over the field. Umps balls and strike calls are helping Cessa's ERA also.

Reds Freak
04-22-2023, 08:13 PM
Watching the Chattanoogas and going into the game, they have a combined team batting average of

.168.


Tends to happen when you fill your farm with guys who are allergic to contact.

j.u.FAIRFIIELD
04-22-2023, 08:13 PM
Marcano was wowin' them at Indy just a few days ago. I see he's kept up the torrid pace.

NebraskaRed
04-22-2023, 08:14 PM
Watching the Chattanoogas and going into the game, they have a combined team batting average of

.168.


And they're 7-6!

j.u.FAIRFIIELD
04-22-2023, 08:16 PM
Tends to happen when you fill your farm with guys who are allergic to contact.

The pitching in that league is overwhelming. It's actually not interesting baseball unless you like guys being rung up.

757690
04-22-2023, 08:17 PM
Nice bounce back start from Cessa.

JohnnyBench5
04-22-2023, 08:18 PM
Bell pulls Cessa after 62 pitches...DUMBASS. whenever our pitcher is doing well...Bell pulls them for the dumpster fire BP... He is so stupid.

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Ironman92
04-22-2023, 08:19 PM
David Bell has zero feel

Tony Cloninger
04-22-2023, 08:19 PM
It’s only been 4 1/2 games but it feels like a month of bad baseball. I have PTSD from last years start. And Price’s last year here also.

j.u.FAIRFIIELD
04-22-2023, 08:19 PM
Buck says, let me get this extra base hit out of the way early on so as to get this inherited runner off my damned slate. But Buckles does the near-impossible -- he gets Connor Joe out.


MLB thought it so significant that they are going to show a video of it actually happening!!!!

VR
04-22-2023, 08:21 PM
Not watching….Cessa injured?


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JohnnyBench5
04-22-2023, 08:21 PM
Bell can't be fired fast enough...just idiotic...1st pitch...double...so lucky coach held him at third.

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JohnnyBench5
04-22-2023, 08:22 PM
Not watching….Cessa injured?


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkNo Bell the idiot pulled him...

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Ron Madden
04-22-2023, 08:22 PM
Bottom 5

Tucupita Marcano singles on a line drive to left fielder Stuart Fairchild.

Austin Hedges grounds into a double play, second baseman Jonathan India to first baseman Wil Myers. Tucupita Marcano out at 2nd. Austin Hedges out at 1st. 2 outs

Pitching Change: Buck Farmer replaces Luis Cessa.

Bryan Reynolds doubles (4) on a sharp line drive to right fielder Nick Senzel. Ke'Bryan Hayes to 3rd.

Connor Joe flies out to left fielder Stuart Fairchild. 3 outs

PIT 2
CIN 1
After 5

VR
04-22-2023, 08:24 PM
No Bell the idiot pulled him...

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Just following on Gameday…but seemed to be pitching ok, maybe building some confidence.


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JohnnyBench5
04-22-2023, 08:26 PM
Bell has Reds and over 100 losses on the season with Bally's Sports book. Any close games he sabotages...

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j.u.FAIRFIIELD
04-22-2023, 08:27 PM
I always feel better when I can start my 2-out rallies with Curt Casali.
But wait, there's more.

j.u.FAIRFIIELD
04-22-2023, 08:29 PM
Just following on Gameday…but seemed to be pitching ok, maybe building some confidence.


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Well for sure it wasn't Cessa who scored 1 run against Rich Hill.

Reds Freak
04-22-2023, 08:30 PM
The next time the Reds hit a homerun will they be able to locate the viking helmet? There's gotta be spider webs growing in that thing.

Ron Madden
04-22-2023, 08:30 PM
Top 6

Pitching Change: Yohan Ramirez replaces Rich Hill.

Kevin Newman grounds out, third baseman Ke'Bryan Hayes to first baseman Connor Joe. 1 out

Nick Senzel grounds out, third baseman Ke'Bryan Hayes to first baseman Connor Joe. 2 outs

Jose Barrero walks.

Pinch-hitter TJ Friedl replaces Curt Casali.

TJ Friedl singles on a line drive to center fielder Ji Hwan Bae. Jose Barrero to 2nd.

Jonathan India strikes out swinging. 3 outs

PIT 2
CIN 1
Mid 6

JohnnyBench5
04-22-2023, 08:31 PM
Losing 2-1 atm...Reds BP comes in and ... Amber Heard crawls into the sack...

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Tony Cloninger
04-22-2023, 08:32 PM
Positive- Jose took a walk.

Negative - whoever is batting with RISP. Doesn’t matter who. They ain’t coming through.

Reds Freak
04-22-2023, 08:35 PM
Losing 2-1 atm...Reds BP comes in and ... Amber Heard crawls into the sack...

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Are you okay?

Ron Madden
04-22-2023, 08:41 PM
Bottom 6

Defensive switch from right field to center field for Nick Senzel.
Defensive switch from left field to right field for Stuart Fairchild.
Defensive Substitution: Luke Maile replaces center fielder Jose Barrero, batting 8th, playing catcher.

TJ Friedl remains in the game as the left fielder.

Carlos Santana pops out to third baseman Spencer Steer. 1 out

Pitching Change: Alex Young replaces Buck Farmer.

Jack Suwinski strikes out swinging. 2 outs

Rodolfo Castro called out on strikes. 3 outs

PIT 2
CIN 1
End of 6

757690
04-22-2023, 08:43 PM
Reading this game thread, one would think the Reds are down 8-0.

fondfoat
04-22-2023, 08:47 PM
Well...Still in the game. Need some bats to work.

Ron Madden
04-22-2023, 08:50 PM
Top 7

Spencer Steer singles on a ground ball to right fielder Jack Suwinski.

Stuart Fairchild strikes out swinging. 1 out

Tyler Stephenson strikes out on a foul tip. 2 outs

Wil Myers strikes out swinging. 3 outs

The middle of our order is WEAK!

PIT 2
CIN 1
Mid 7

Reds Freak
04-22-2023, 08:51 PM
Top 7

Spencer Steer singles on a ground ball to right fielder Jack Suwinski.

Stuart Fairchild strikes out swinging. 1 out

Tyler Stephenson strikes out on a foul tip. 2 outs

Wil Myers strikes out swinging. 3 outs

The middle of our order is WEAK!

PIT 2
CIN 1
Mid 7

All three on swinging third strikes a foot off the inside of the plate.

j.u.FAIRFIIELD
04-22-2023, 08:51 PM
Watching the Reds is like slowing down on the road to see if the people in the wrecked car are pleading for help.
It's not fair to the people in the car.

757690
04-22-2023, 08:53 PM
Humble brag… Alex Young was my pick to click this season.

To be fair, he was many people’s pick to click this season.

Tony Cloninger
04-22-2023, 08:54 PM
Reading this game thread, one would think the Reds are down 8-0.

You’ve watched these guys plate approach. It might as well be.

In the meantime Bell takes out the guy who’s 2-2 with a walk so he can stick Maile in there.

Smjjaz
04-22-2023, 08:55 PM
If Fairchild is your 3 hole and Meyers your 5, you clearly don't give a damn about winning. Mclain needs called up immediately and CES and Elly as soon as they are healthy. There is no reason to waste at bats on has beens like Meyers and bat a 4th OF in the 3 hole

Ron Madden
04-22-2023, 08:58 PM
Bottom 7

Ji Hwan Bae strikes out swinging. 1 out

Tucupita Marcano grounds out, third base

Pitching Change: Lucas Sims replaces Alex Young.

Austin Hedges strikes out swinging. 3 outs

PIT 2
CIN 1
After 7

Reds Freak
04-22-2023, 09:00 PM
Watching the Chattanoogas and going into the game, they have a combined team batting average of

.168.


Lookouts with 10 hits and 8 runs tonight and it's only the 6th, btw :thumbup:

VR
04-22-2023, 09:00 PM
Wait a second? Barrero is out of the game?!


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Ron Madden
04-22-2023, 09:05 PM
Top 8

Pitching Change: Duane Underwood Jr. replaces Yohan Ramirez

Kevin Newman lines out sharply to center fielder Ji Hwan Bae. 1 out

Nick Senzel grounds out, third baseman Ke'Bryan Hayes to first baseman Connor Joe. 2 outs

Pinch-hitter Jake Fraley replaces Luke Maile.

Jake Fraley grounds out, second baseman Tucupita Marcano to first baseman Connor Joe. 3 outs

PIT 2
CIN 1
Mid 8

VR
04-22-2023, 09:06 PM
Again. Not watching, but perplexed. Struggling pitcher has best game, gets pulled early. Struggling hitter has his best game, gets switched out. Weird.


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malcontent
04-22-2023, 09:10 PM
Wow. Stephenson is OPSing 0.658, and Myers 0.583.

757690
04-22-2023, 09:11 PM
Alexis Diaz comes in.

He as peculiar pitching stats:

5.09 ERA
-0.03 FIP (not a typo, he has a negative FIP)

fondfoat
04-22-2023, 09:12 PM
This is more than just bad players. There is a mindset problem. The Reds are internally failing to have a team ready to play with any purpose. The offense has no plan.

RedTeamGo!
04-22-2023, 09:12 PM
Again. Not watching, but perplexed. Struggling pitcher has best game, gets pulled early. Struggling hitter has his best game, gets switched out. Weird.


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It’s because David Bell is a classic over-manager and sucks.

Cadenza
04-22-2023, 09:13 PM
This is more than just bad players. There is a mindset problem. The Reds are internally failing to have a team ready to play with any purpose. The offense has no plan.

Ironman92
04-22-2023, 09:14 PM
Nice play by Friedl

Cadenza
04-22-2023, 09:14 PM
Don’t be so hard on the team after all they did score a run.

757690
04-22-2023, 09:14 PM
I get taking Cessa out early, he missed a chunk of spring training, was a reliever until recently.

But I don’t understand bringing Diaz in here.

Ron Madden
04-22-2023, 09:16 PM
Bottom 8

Ke'Bryan Hayes grounds out, shortstop Kevin Newman to first baseman Wil Myers. 1 out

Bryan Reynolds doubles (5) on a fly ball to right fielder Stuart Fairchild.

Pitching Change: Alexis Diaz replaces Lucas Sims, batting 8th, replacing pitcher Lucas Sims.

Connor Joe hit by pitch.

Carlos Santana flies out to left fielder TJ Friedl. 2 outs

Jack Suwinski strikes out swinging. 3 outs

PIT 2
CIN 1
End of 8

Reds Freak
04-22-2023, 09:16 PM
I assume the Johnny Bench poster will be here any minute now to sing Bell's praises for guiding the bullpen to 3.1 scoreless innings tonight?

Ironman92
04-22-2023, 09:17 PM
Great play by Hayes

phlbilly
04-22-2023, 09:19 PM
Friedl should be playing everyday against lefties and righties.

LeatherPants
04-22-2023, 09:19 PM
I get taking Cessa out early, he missed a chunk of spring training, was a reliever until recently.

But I don’t understand bringing Diaz in here.

Diaz has only pitched two innings the last two weeks. Needs work.

NCReds
04-22-2023, 09:19 PM
This team. Yawn

Ironman92
04-22-2023, 09:20 PM
Reds have lost 32 of last 46 games at Pittsburgh

I mean c’mon can we improve our level of suck to maybe playing .400 ball at a .400 team’s park?

0-2 Count
04-22-2023, 09:21 PM
We are...............not good.

JFLegal
04-22-2023, 09:21 PM
this team is a joke. 7th 1-run loss to lead all of MLB.

malcontent
04-22-2023, 09:21 PM
This team needs a colonic. To clear out the system.

YOU KNOW WHO I'M TALKIN' ABOUT.

Ron Madden
04-22-2023, 09:21 PM
Top 9

TJ Friedl grounds out, third baseman Ke'Bryan Hayes to first baseman Connor Joe. 1 out

Jonathan India strikes out swinging. 2 outs

Spencer Steer flies out to right fielder Jack Suwinski in foul territory. 3 outs

PIT 2
CIN 1
Final Score

JFLegal
04-22-2023, 09:22 PM
if a triple-A player like stu fairchild is batting in the 3 hole for you ... you are totally screwed. that guy is a 9th batter at best.

Kinsm
04-22-2023, 09:22 PM
On pace for 54 wins.

Smjjaz
04-22-2023, 09:23 PM
So much for the scrappy, high energy team. Talent wins, and with the exception of the A's, this might be the least talented lineup in baseball.

LeatherPants
04-22-2023, 09:24 PM
This team needs a colonic. To clear out the system.

YOU KNOW WHO I'M TALKIN' ABOUT.


The GM? The owner?

RedTeamGo!
04-22-2023, 09:24 PM
So much for the scrappy, high energy team. Talent wins, and with the exception of the A's, this might be the least talented lineup in baseball.

Rockies are worse too

757690
04-22-2023, 09:25 PM
Reds were 2-12 on this date last year.

fondfoat
04-22-2023, 09:25 PM
On pace for 54 wins.

I knew my 72 win prediction was optimistic. I didn't realize it was ludicrous.

Ron Madden
04-22-2023, 09:26 PM
For those upset that Cessa was replaced, remember that both of the Pirates runs came of Cessa, 0 runs scored off the bullpen.

WVRedsFan
04-22-2023, 09:28 PM
The Reds cannot hit and pitching is not great. Recipe for losing. Whoever's bright idea was to depend on these hitters to score enough runs to win must already be in the mental ward, Get some real players (and I don't mean Will Myers) on the roster that can hit, Thia game was winnable, but the current roster just doesn't have it and we all knew it. I'm a Reds fan for life, but this just isn't what gets people excited.

757690
04-22-2023, 09:28 PM
I actually enjoyed this game.

Cessa bounced back with an impressive start.
The bullpen held the Pirates scoreless
The Reds had 12 base runners, many opportunities to score.

JFLegal
04-22-2023, 09:29 PM
sam lecure's ADD is hard to listen to.

Kinsm
04-22-2023, 09:30 PM
This is more than just bad players. There is a mindset problem. The Reds are internally failing to have a team ready to play with any purpose. The offense has no plan.

No, it’s primarily lack of talent.

LeatherPants
04-22-2023, 09:30 PM
Reds were 2-12 on this date last year.

Yippie!

JFLegal
04-22-2023, 09:30 PM
omg, listening to this postgame show you would think the reds were a team of mentally challenged kids going up against a juggernaut. they're seriously talking about how they tried hard and kept the game close.

against the pittsburgh pirates. this is how far the reds have fallen.

757690
04-22-2023, 09:31 PM
I knew my 72 win prediction was optimistic. I didn't realize it was ludicrous.

Reds only need to play .461 ball to get to 72 wins this season. Not ludicrous at all.

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omg, listening to this postgame show you would think the reds were a team of mentally challenged kids going up against a juggernaut. they're seriously talking about how they tried hard and kept the game close.

against the pittsburgh pirates. this is how far the reds have fallen.

Pirates are second in the majors in wins right now. 15-7 .682 winning percentage.

fondfoat
04-22-2023, 09:33 PM
I actually enjoyed this game.

Cessa bounced back with an impressive start.
The bullpen held the Pirates scoreless
The Reds had 12 base runners, many opportunities to score.

I liked the pitching. Can't enjoy that batting.

JFLegal
04-22-2023, 09:33 PM
Reds only need to play .461 ball to get to 72 wins this season. Not ludicrous at all.

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Pirates are second in the majors in wins right now. 15-7 .682 winning percentage.

yeah, and they will finish will a losing record for sure.

TheBigLebowski
04-22-2023, 09:34 PM
It’s not entertaining. I’m suffering through this because I want to recall these days when they do find a way to win a world series again. IF they find a way. But this is bad. Really, really bad product on this field.

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Reds only need to play .461 ball to get to 72 wins this season. Not ludicrous at all.

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Pirates are second in the majors in wins right now. 15-7 .682 winning percentage.

Buoyed by a sweep of youuuurrrrrrr Cincinnati DEDS

fondfoat
04-22-2023, 09:36 PM
Reds only need to play .461 ball to get to 72 wins this season. Not ludicrous .

My post was more tounge in cheek than anything. However, .461 ball will be a challenge.

UKWhoDey
04-22-2023, 09:37 PM
Gonna be a long season boys.

fondfoat
04-22-2023, 09:41 PM
No, it’s primarily lack of talent.

I am not suggesting otherwise. I do think it is more than that though. I wonder about gameday planning and the implementation of that plan.

malcontent
04-22-2023, 09:44 PM
omg, listening to this postgame show you would think the reds were a team of mentally challenged kids going up against a juggernaut. they're seriously talking about how they tried hard and kept the game close.

against the pittsburgh pirates. this is how far the reds have fallen.
You mean Bell?

Ron Madden
04-22-2023, 09:47 PM
Buoyed by a sweep of youuuurrrrrrr Cincinnati DEDS

Pittsburgh hasn't swept the Reds yet this season.
They have won 4 of 6 games vs the Reds though.

JohnnyBench5
04-22-2023, 09:47 PM
This is more than just bad players. There is a mindset problem. The Reds are internally failing to have a team ready to play with any purpose. The offense has no plan.Agree...this is another reason Bell has got to go.

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JohnnyBench5
04-22-2023, 09:49 PM
I assume the Johnny Bench poster will be here any minute now to sing Bell's praises for guiding the bullpen to 3.1 scoreless innings tonight?Nope...got the L...he is doing well on his Bally's 100+ loss bet. Bell is Terrible.

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Ron Madden
04-22-2023, 09:51 PM
Box Score

https://www.mlb.com/gameday/reds-vs-pirates/2023/04/22/718474/final/box

Monster Man
04-22-2023, 09:55 PM
This team needs a colonic. To clear out the system.

YOU KNOW WHO I'M TALKIN' ABOUT.

🔥🔔

JohnnyBench5
04-22-2023, 09:57 PM
Steer is doing well...like him...Fraley may be good...Stephenson is slumping big time atm...but that happens to good players...the rest of the position players are crapola...we have 3 mlb starting pitchers...the BP is SO BAD! Closer is above average I think...so 6 players out of 26 are players others teams would want...if 20 of your 26 would be left there if cut...you don't know WTF you are doing...Plus your manager is bottom 5 in MLB...You are doomed to 100+ losses.

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JohnnyBench5
04-22-2023, 09:59 PM
India is fine...sorry I left him out of my analysis... Keep India, Steer, Stephenson, Greene, Lodolo, Ashcraft, Diaz...the rest are crap...

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Ron Madden
04-22-2023, 10:01 PM
Bell pulls Cessa after 62 pitches...DUMBASS. whenever our pitcher is doing well...Bell pulls them for the dumpster fire BP... He is so stupid.

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Pittsburgh scored 2 runs tonight,
Cessa gave up both runs,
The bullpen gave up zero runs.

Ironman92
04-22-2023, 10:14 PM
1 on a bad misplay by Barrero and then the rocket on the first pitch after Cessa left

I hated that particular move

Reds just have no margin for error so it doesn’t really matter, but at no point did that feel like the right move

Ron Madden
04-22-2023, 10:29 PM
1 on a bad misplay by Barrero and then the rocket on the first pitch after Cessa left

I hated that particular move

Reds just have no margin for error so it doesn’t really matter, but at no point did that feel like the right move

You have every right to your opinion but the 2nd Pittsburgh run scored in the bottom of the 4th inning while Cessa was still on the mound.

JohnnyBench5
04-22-2023, 10:39 PM
Pittsburgh scored 2 runs tonight,
Cessa gave up both runs,
The bullpen gave up zero runs.Your right...the bullpen is awesome. Whole team is fantastic...it is a wonder how we are a 333 winning percentage team. We are loaded with talent...everything is fantastic :)

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Ron Madden
04-22-2023, 10:42 PM
Your right...the bullpen is awesome. Whole team is fantastic...it is a wonder how we are a 333 winning percentage team. We are loaded with talent...everything is fantastic :)

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Nobody said everything is fantastic

Ky Fried Redleg
04-22-2023, 11:09 PM
Thanks

I was just thinking about you earlier today. Missed you. I've asked about you several times on here. Hope you bring us a nice big winning streak.

j.u.FAIRFIIELD
04-22-2023, 11:43 PM
Your right...the bullpen is awesome. Whole team is fantastic...it is a wonder how we are a 333 winning percentage team. We are loaded with talent...everything is fantastic :)

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Have you actually contributed anything since you joined the board in Aug 2020?

JohnnyBench5
04-23-2023, 12:16 AM
Have you actually contributed anything since you joined the board in Aug 2020?What do you want me to contribute? I think I have...others may think not, others may think so...I am not a sunshine pumper if that is what you want though.

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JohnnyBench5
04-23-2023, 12:20 AM
Nobody said everything is fantasticTell me one thing that is fantastic?

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Ron Madden
04-23-2023, 12:21 AM
Tell me one thing that is fantastic?

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Baseball

j.u.FAIRFIIELD
04-23-2023, 12:21 AM
What do you want me to contribute? I think I have...others may think not, others may think so...I am not a sunshine pumper if that is what you want though.

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Mostly you seem like a troll.

JohnnyBench5
04-23-2023, 12:43 AM
Mostly you seem like a troll.Just because I don't agree with you I am a troll? I am not trying to make anyone mad...just expressing my opinion. What do you consider a troll?

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JohnnyBench5
04-23-2023, 12:47 AM
BaseballI'll agree with that... I love baseball and the Reds and that is why watching them play the last couple of years has been very painful and aggravating. Is the pirate payroll so much bigger than ours that is why they are 14-7 and we are 7-14? I don't think so. It is utter mismanagement by Bell and the ownership. We can't fire ownership but we can get rid of Bell...he has no idea what he is doing...IMO.

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Ky Fried Redleg
04-23-2023, 12:56 AM
I think fans have different ways of expressing their frustrations with baseball AND with the current sad state of our beloved Reds. Some, like the Dean of RZ, remain sunny and optimistic ; others, like Bench, are much more gloomy and pessimistic. Still others may be like me, drifting ever further away from the game that I was once so passionate about. Yes, the Reds are a mess. But, even worse, baseball is a mess. I haven't watched an entire non-Reds game in many years, including post-season play. Unless some drastic[positive] changes occur in the next five to ten years, baseball is going to become less of an American past-time and more of an American afterthought. There was a time when I thought baseball was fantastic. That time is not now. As I mentioned just the other day, I have serious doubts that most of us older guys will ever see a championship Reds team again. Sadly, the best part of the Reds season these days is that it is only four and a half months until the Bengals' season.

Hollcat
04-23-2023, 01:51 AM
I missed the first inning of the game. So Barerror gifted the Pirates another run tonight?

Ky Fried Redleg
04-23-2023, 10:02 AM
I'll agree with that... I love baseball and the Reds and that is why watching them play the last couple of years has been very painful and aggravating. Is the pirate payroll so much bigger than ours that is why they are 14-7 and we are 7-14? I don't think so. It is utter mismanagement by Bell and the ownership. We can't fire ownership but we can get rid of Bell...he has no idea what he is doing...IMO.

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Bell apologists always point out that Mr Excitement isn't the reason for this mess and that no one could win with the lack of talent on these rosters. And there is, of course, some merit to that thinking. However, even when the Reds were not grotesquely bad, Bell was, well... grotesquely bad. He always ranks somewhere in the neighborhood of 25th in most rankings of MLB managers. In my classes of 30 students, the student that ranks 25th is probably in line for getting a D, at best. Cincinnati has become accustomed to having to settle for D, at best , rosters and manager. I'm just glad the 70's were so much fun for Reds baseball, and baseball, period. At least I'll always have those memories.