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Ron Madden
05-06-2023, 03:05 PM
Reds
1. Jonathan India (R) 2B
2. TJ Friedl (L) CF
3. Spencer Steer (R) 1B
4. Tyler Stephenson (R) DH
5. Henry Ramos (S) LF
6. Nick Senzel (R) 3B
7. Wil Myers (R) RF
8. Jose Barrero (R) SS
9. Curt Casali (R) C
P. Nick Lodolo (L)

White Sox
1. Tim Anderson (R) SS
2. Andrew Vaughn (R) 1B
3. Luis Robert Jr. (R) CF
4. Yasmani Grandal (S) DH
5. Andrew Benintendi (L) LF
6. Hanser Alberto (R) 3B
7. Elvis Andrus (R) 2B
8. Seby Zavala (R) C
9. Adam Haseley (L) RF
P. Mike Clevinger (R)

KeefeCato
05-06-2023, 03:12 PM
Stephenson rarely catches Greene, Ashcraft or Lodolo. That's odd. Do they just want one of the veterans to catch them or are they requesting Maile or Casali over Stephenson?

pedro
05-06-2023, 03:16 PM
Stephenson is a terrible catcher.


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Ron Madden
05-06-2023, 03:22 PM
This will be an unpopular opinion but I believe I'd trade that TySteve while I could get something of value in return.

Mitri
05-06-2023, 03:29 PM
This will be an unpopular opinion but I believe I'd trade that TySteve while I could get something of value in return.

If he’s not a catcher then yeah.

Always thought he’d end up a corner OF but the the power hasn’t shown up, like, ever.

icehole3
05-06-2023, 05:35 PM
6. Nick Senzel (R) 3B

https://media.tenor.com/EVr9tHQP-q8AAAAM/hello-dog.gif

mth123
05-06-2023, 05:54 PM
This will be an unpopular opinion but I believe I'd trade that TySteve while I could get something of value in return.

He'll be 27 in August and arb eligible. Might be the right time, but I'd need someone who provides an immediate answer through the Greene, Lodolo, Ashcraft era. Probably not an All Star, but some one who is an every day player or mid-rotation starter

membengal
05-06-2023, 05:59 PM
Is there a market for TySteve? the power outage in combo with him not being a great defensive catcher...what's his market exactly?

mth123
05-06-2023, 06:03 PM
Is there a market for TySteve? the power outage in combo with him not being a great defensive catcher...what's his market exactly?

Teams are desperate for catchers. I'd imagine some one would bite.

I still think he'll hit more as the weather warms. (actually I'm hoping and trying to convince myself).

757690
05-06-2023, 06:04 PM
Teams are desperate for catchers. I'd imagine some one would bite.

Not if they have seen him catch.

KeefeCato
05-06-2023, 06:05 PM
You would be selling low right now on Stephenson. He has value as a good bat with some pop but a poor catcher. But playing mostly 1b/DH he has little to no value. Just have to hope he starts hitting for power. No reason why he shouldn't be a 20 HR guy.

membengal
05-06-2023, 06:06 PM
Charlie Goldsmith
@CharlieG__
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1m
Jake Fraley has been scratched with lower back stiffness. Henry Ramos will replace him in the order.

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You would be selling low right now on Stephenson. He has value as a good bat with some pop but a poor catcher. But playing mostly 1b/DH he has little to no value. Just have to hope he starts hitting for power. No reason why he shouldn't be a 20 HR guy.

I guess? He doesn't even look like a 10-HR guy at this point. He hasn't had ANY power to speak of all year.

Ron Madden
05-06-2023, 06:09 PM
Charlie Goldsmith
@CharlieG__
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4m


Jake Fraley has been scratched with lower back stiffness. Henry Ramos will replace him in the order.






Reds
1. Jonathan India (R) 2B
2. TJ Friedl (L) CF
3. Spencer Steer (R) 1B
4. Tyler Stephenson (R) DH
5. Henry Ramos (S) LF
6. Nick Senzel (R) 3B
7. Wil Myers (R) RF
8. Jose Barrero (R) SS
9. Curt Casali (R) C
P. Nick Lodolo (L)

Ironman92
05-06-2023, 06:11 PM
19516

Seats are good tonight…

TheBigLebowski
05-06-2023, 06:38 PM
Yeah, poor defensive catchers who have warning track power at the biggest bandbox in the league generally fetch a gigantic return on the market.

He’s got no homers and 11 RBI through 32 games. If there is someone out there who wants him, I’d love it if they stepped up and made their intentions known.

757690
05-06-2023, 06:41 PM
Can Lodolo bounce back today?

Ironman92
05-06-2023, 06:50 PM
Already double digit foul balls to same area

Tom Servo
05-06-2023, 06:52 PM
Great play by Senzel

Ironman92
05-06-2023, 06:52 PM
Arenado sighting

Kc61
05-06-2023, 06:53 PM
Quite a play, wow.

Ron Madden
05-06-2023, 06:54 PM
Top 1

Tim Anderson grounds out, second baseman Jonathan India to first baseman Spencer Steer. 1 out

Andrew Vaughn strikes out swinging. 2 outs

Luis Robert Jr. singles on a ground ball to third baseman Nick Senzel.

Yasmani Grandal walks. Luis Robert Jr. to 2nd.

Andrew Benintendi grounds out, third baseman Nick Senzel to first baseman Spencer Steer. 3 outs
NICE PLAY!!!

No score
Mid 1

Ironman92
05-06-2023, 07:01 PM
GREAT read by India!

icehole3
05-06-2023, 07:03 PM
Steer

https://media.tenor.com/-6OOEfqm60oAAAAM/respect-hats-off.gif

KeefeCato
05-06-2023, 07:03 PM
Maybe Steer is heating up again.
Senzel should play no where except 3B. He is the best defender hands down on this team. Leave him at his natural position.

757690
05-06-2023, 07:05 PM
For those who couldn’t see the Senzel play, here it it, courtesy of Jamie Ramsey

https://twitter.com/jamieblog/status/1654982989300785153?s=61&t=ZBdrboUY-k2A2dZC0KKa9Q

Ron Madden
05-06-2023, 07:07 PM
Bottom 1

Jonathan India singles on a sharp line drive to left fielder Andrew Benintendi.

TJ Friedl strikes out on a foul tip. 1 out

Jonathan India steals (6) 2nd base.

Spencer Steer singles on a line drive to left fielder Andrew Benintendi. Jonathan India scores.

Tyler Stephenson called out on strikes. 2 outs

Henry Ramos pops out to third baseman Hanser Alberto in foul territory. 3 outs

CIN 1
CWS 0
After 1

membengal
05-06-2023, 07:09 PM
Lodolo still searching for what he had to start the year.

Ron Madden
05-06-2023, 07:13 PM
Top 2

Hanser Alberto homers (2) on a fly ball to left field.

Elvis Andrus grounds out, second baseman Jonathan India to first baseman Spencer Steer. 1 out

Seby Zavala strikes out swinging. 2 outs

Adam Haseley grounds out, first baseman Spencer Steer to pitcher Nick Lodolo. 3 outs

CIN 1
CWS 1
Mid 2

KeefeCato
05-06-2023, 07:14 PM
Lodolo still searching for what he had to start the year.

I hope he finds it soon. He has been really bad.

757690
05-06-2023, 07:16 PM
Totally forgot Wil Myers was on the team

icehole3
05-06-2023, 07:17 PM
Nice rip

757690
05-06-2023, 07:18 PM
Time for Casali’s first RBI of 2023

Ron Madden
05-06-2023, 07:19 PM
Bottom 2

Nick Senzel flies out to center fielder Luis Robert Jr. 1 out

Wil Myers lines out to left fielder Andrew Benintendi. 2 outs

Jose Barrero doubles (5) on a sharp line drive to center fielder Luis Robert Jr.

Curt Casali strikes out swinging, catcher Seby Zavala to first baseman Andrew Vaughn. 3 outs

CIN 1
CWS 1
End of 2

757690
05-06-2023, 07:20 PM
Time for Casali’s first RBI of 2023

Or a strike out on one of the worst swings I’ve seen in 2023

KeefeCato
05-06-2023, 07:20 PM
Getting negative production from the catcher position.

Kc61
05-06-2023, 07:22 PM
I’d trade or release Casali and find another LHH bat, even a bench bat. Reds’ offense is stuck in neutral and is at a disadvantage against RHP.

0-2 Count
05-06-2023, 07:23 PM
Getting negative production from the catcher position.

Time to bring Chuckie up from Louisville. No, he won't hit .400 here, but he has to be better than what we are getting right now.

membengal
05-06-2023, 07:24 PM
I hope he finds it soon. He has been really bad.

I put a few starts ago that note from Joel Lukhupt in the Lodolo thread that he has been decidedly terrible against AL clubs in his career so far and as luck would not have it this is his fourth straight start against an AL team. I have no idea why he has struggled against AL teams in his first two years, but weirdly he has.

0-2 Count
05-06-2023, 07:25 PM
India has to make that play.

membengal
05-06-2023, 07:26 PM
that's a play that really has to be made at 2b...

JCM11
05-06-2023, 07:26 PM
If India can't make that play he has no business at second base. And India's botch costs a run.

membengal
05-06-2023, 07:26 PM
that was scored a hit but...

KeefeCato
05-06-2023, 07:27 PM
I’d trade or release Casali and find another LHH bat, even a bench bat. Reds’ offense is stuck in neutral and is at a disadvantage against RHP.

Be nice if they had a couple LHB. Ramos has became what we knew he was.

membengal
05-06-2023, 07:27 PM
that run is on the defense. Frustrating. McLain makes that play. india to the OF, McLain to 2b and eventually ELDC to SS is right there for the front office.

0-2 Count
05-06-2023, 07:27 PM
India should get an error there, considering it was Grandel running. Lodolo going to get tagged with some undeserved earned runs.

757690
05-06-2023, 07:27 PM
that was scored a hit but...

We really need to do away with official scorers. We can do better using statcast.

JCM11
05-06-2023, 07:29 PM
Lodolo is far too wild with that breaking ball down and in to righties.

Ironman92
05-06-2023, 07:30 PM
Lodolo hitting a batter with 2 outs snd 2 strikes…..that hurt

757690
05-06-2023, 07:30 PM
I think is a better example of a young pitcher melting down mentally after some bad luck, than anything that Hunter Greene has experienced.

KeefeCato
05-06-2023, 07:30 PM
So the two young guys. Stephenson is one of the worst catchers in the league. And India is beyond awful at 2B.
I can't imagine a worse defensive NL team than the Reds. We have saw Oakland is even worse.

membengal
05-06-2023, 07:31 PM
Steve Mancuso
@spmancuso
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28s
“We’ve seen it time and again this year at second base and shortstop. Plays that are made by every other team we see here aren’t being made.” - Jeff Brantley

VR
05-06-2023, 07:31 PM
No help, as usual, from the defense….but it really seems Lodolo doesn’t know where a lot of his pitches are going.


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Ron Madden
05-06-2023, 07:31 PM
Top 3

Tim Anderson strikes out swinging. 1 out

Andrew Vaughn flies out to center fielder TJ Friedl. 2 outs

Luis Robert Jr. hit by pitch.

Yasmani Grandal singles on a ground ball to second baseman Jonathan India. Luis Robert Jr. to 2nd.

Andrew Benintendi doubles (6) on a sharp line drive to center fielder TJ Friedl. Luis Robert Jr. scores. Yasmani Grandal to 3rd.

Hanser Alberto hit by pitch.

Elvis Andrus flies out to right fielder Wil Myers. 3 outs

CWS 2
CIN 1
Mid 3

JCM11
05-06-2023, 07:35 PM
India smokes a double to try and make up for his defense.

KeefeCato
05-06-2023, 07:36 PM
I think they will. But if Greene and Lodolo doesn't improve. Even if CES EDLC and McLain are all great. This team will win nothing without the young pitchers stating healthy and being good.

0-2 Count
05-06-2023, 07:36 PM
Barry says White Sox are playing double play depth when there is no runner on 1st.

Ironman92
05-06-2023, 07:37 PM
How bad was the strike to Friedl…looked AWFUL

membengal
05-06-2023, 07:39 PM
I think they will. But if Greene and Lodolo doesn't improve. Even if CES EDLC and McLain are all great. This team will win nothing without the young pitchers stating healthy and being good.

the young pitchers are fine. they are good. they are going through very very normal ups and downs of learning to pitch well in the major leagues. it would be smoother and there would less heat on them if management had gotten ANYTHING to round out the rotation but...ya know.

757690
05-06-2023, 07:40 PM
How bad was the strike to Friedl…looked AWFUL

This bad

19517

Ironman92
05-06-2023, 07:41 PM
Stephenson looks lost

VR
05-06-2023, 07:41 PM
The loop in TySteves swing can’t be productive. Not seeing it’s the problem, but his timing is just horrible.


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JCM11
05-06-2023, 07:42 PM
Stephenson can't hit an inside fastball and every team knows it. Until he makes an adjustment he's chop liver at the plate.

Ron Madden
05-06-2023, 07:42 PM
Bottom 3

Jonathan India doubles (9) on a ground ball to left fielder Andrew Benintendi.

TJ Friedl pops out to third baseman Hanser Alberto in foul territory. 1 out

Spencer Steer lines out to second baseman Elvis Andrus. 2 outs

Jonathan India steals (7) 3rd base.

Tyler Stephenson flies out to left fielder Andrew Benintendi. 3 outs

CWS 2
CIN 1
After 3

JCM11
05-06-2023, 07:45 PM
Lodolo is looking rough. He's throwing BP out there good grief.

Steer bails out clumsy Barrero.

VR
05-06-2023, 07:45 PM
Stephenson can't hit an inside fastball and every team knows it. Until he makes an adjustment he's chop liver at the plate.

Cleanup hitter “can’t hit the inside fastball”. Sad.

0-19 Zavala. Ironically, their #8 hitter can crush an inside fastball. Sweet.


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membengal
05-06-2023, 07:45 PM
what in the world is the location that Lodolo is going with on the fastball up in the count. That was less than ideal.

icehole3
05-06-2023, 07:47 PM
very nice Barrero

Ironman92
05-06-2023, 07:47 PM
Tim Anderson has to be hurt…he ain’t running at all.

Friedl fooled but that looked like nothing off the bat

Great scoop by Steer….that was a tough one. Nice play by Barrero

Tom Servo
05-06-2023, 07:48 PM
I'm gonna say it: Stephenson is all out of sorts bc moving him off catching every day was dumb.

KeefeCato
05-06-2023, 07:48 PM
Tim Anderson has to be hurt…he ain’t running at all.

Friedl fooled but that looked like nothing off the bat

Great scoop by Steer….that was a tough one. Nice play by Barrero

Tim Anderson just came off the IL Monday hamstring.

icehole3
05-06-2023, 07:48 PM
ball is Flying at GAB

0-2 Count
05-06-2023, 07:49 PM
Tim Anderson has to be hurt…he ain’t running at all.

Friedl fooled but that looked like nothing off the bat

Great scoop by Steer….that was a tough one. Nice play by Barrero

I want to give Steer credit for the scoop. It was a very tough hop. But, deep down, I think he got very lucky.

KeefeCato
05-06-2023, 07:49 PM
The bullpen has been good. But sooner or later they are going to be toast. Overworked.

JCM11
05-06-2023, 07:50 PM
Lodolo can't keep his slider out of the middle of the right hand batters box.

Ironman92
05-06-2023, 07:50 PM
Tim Anderson just came off the IL Monday hamstring.


He’s not ready. He’s jogged 2x and on pickoff move where he covered with 2 quick steps he limped around

icehole3
05-06-2023, 07:51 PM
bounce then hbp

Ironman92
05-06-2023, 07:51 PM
I want to give Steer credit for the scoop. It was a very tough hop. But, deep down, I think he got very lucky.

Could say same on Senzel stop but I’m not going there

VR
05-06-2023, 07:52 PM
No way they overturn this


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VR
05-06-2023, 07:52 PM
No way they overturn this


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Oops, thought is called hbp to start.


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JCM11
05-06-2023, 07:53 PM
Lodolo might want to stop doing his Brandon Williamson impersonation.

0-2 Count
05-06-2023, 07:53 PM
At what point do the Reds consider sending Lodolo down?

Tom Servo
05-06-2023, 07:55 PM
At what point do the Reds consider sending Lodolo down?
Not anytime soon.

Ron Madden
05-06-2023, 07:56 PM
Top 4

Seby Zavala homers (2) on a fly ball to left field.

Adam Haseley hits a ground-rule double (2) on a line drive to center field.

Tim Anderson grounds out, shortstop Jose Barrero to first baseman Spencer Steer. 1 out

Andrew Vaughn flies out to left fielder Henry Ramos. Adam Haseley to 3rd. 2 outs

Luis Robert Jr. hit by pitch.

Pitching Change: Derek Law replaces Nick Lodolo.

Yasmani Grandal flies out to right fielder Wil Myers. 3 outs

CWS 3
CIN 1
Mid 4

0-2 Count
05-06-2023, 07:56 PM
Not anytime soon.

2-3 more starts like this and I think you have to consider it. Don't want his confidence to be totally destroyed.

Tom Servo
05-06-2023, 07:58 PM
2-3 more starts like this and I think you have to consider it. Don't want his confidence to be totally destroyed.
You can argue that being sent down over some bad starts could damage his confidence just as much. We don't have any better options and we're going nowhere this year, no reason he shouldn't have plenty of rope.

KeefeCato
05-06-2023, 07:58 PM
Sad that Ashcraft is the only starter they can count on to pitch well consistently.

membengal
05-06-2023, 08:02 PM
Sad that Ashcraft is the only starter they can count on to pitch well consistently.

again, young pitching will go through ups and downs. It just will. Ashcraft most likely will at some point too.

It is why having absolutely NOTHING at spots 4 and 5 in the rotation was so extra short sighted by management. Puts too much pressure on young arms to be GOOD when you really want them to have room to LEARN and work through the normal learning curves.

0-2 Count
05-06-2023, 08:02 PM
Myers looks like he is just going through the motions.

Ron Madden
05-06-2023, 08:02 PM
Bottom 4

Henry Ramos strikes out swinging. 1 out

Nick Senzel strikes out swinging. 2 outs

Wil Myers grounds out, third baseman Hanser Alberto to first baseman Andrew Vaughn. 3 outs

CWS 3
CIN 1
End of 4

JCM11
05-06-2023, 08:03 PM
Myers is a waste of a roster spot. Dude literally has one good game the entire year.

membengal
05-06-2023, 08:05 PM
Myers looks like he is just going through the motions.

he 100% should NOT be the reason CES continues to hang in AAA that's for sure.

757690
05-06-2023, 08:05 PM
This is a very winnable game. Clevinger isn’t that great

icehole3
05-06-2023, 08:06 PM
very nice Friedl

Ron Madden
05-06-2023, 08:07 PM
Top 5

Andrew Benintendi lines out to left fielder Henry Ramos. 1 out

Hanser Alberto grounds out, third base

Elvis Andrus lines out to center fielder TJ Friedl. 3 outs
NICE PLAY !!!!

CWS 3
CIN 1
Mid 5

Tony Cloninger
05-06-2023, 08:09 PM
This HP ump just keeps falling for the C pitch framing. Then Senzel helps things out by swinging at 3 straight horrible pitches.

The young starters would feel pressure even with average 4-5 starters. I don’t think they are putting anymore pressure because of it. Green just can’t consistently get his other pitches over. Lodolo has locations issues lately.

VR
05-06-2023, 08:09 PM
2-3 more starts like this and I think you have to consider it. Don't want his confidence to be totally destroyed.

Skipping a start might make sense.


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757690
05-06-2023, 08:11 PM
I'm gonna say it: Stephenson is all out of sorts bc moving him off catching every day was dumb.

Counterpoint: Moving Stephenson off of catching every day was smart because Stephenson is terrible at catching.

mth123
05-06-2023, 08:11 PM
again, young pitching will go through ups and downs. It just will. Ashcraft most likely will at some point too.

It is why having absolutely NOTHING at spots 4 and 5 in the rotation was so extra short sighted by management. Puts too much pressure on young arms to be GOOD when you really want them to have room to LEARN and work through the normal learning curves.

April 1, early in the year, this guy with a limited innings base went 109 pitches. April 8, 106 more pitches. April 13, 97 pitches. April 18 he gave up 3 HR, 8 ER and still went 101 pitches. He's looked awful ever since. I wonder if they had better performances in spots 4 and 5 if those high pitch counts so early in the season wouldn't have been necessary. I don't think its a coincicdence.

They are skipping Cessa. I think Lodolo is the guy they should skip. Cessa doesn't really matter. They need Lodolo to get right.

VR
05-06-2023, 08:13 PM
Let’s have the Reds first 3 run HR since 2018 here.


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icehole3
05-06-2023, 08:14 PM
Let's GO! Let's GO!

https://i.gifer.com/PK3x.gif

Tadasimha
05-06-2023, 08:16 PM
Let’s have the Reds first 3 run HR since 2018 here.


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You deserve a viking helmet!

icehole3
05-06-2023, 08:16 PM
https://c.tenor.com/Y0gl6YxNauIAAAAC/boom-denzel.gif

mth123
05-06-2023, 08:16 PM
Let’s have the Reds first 3 run HR since 2018 here.


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Wow! What are tonights powerball numbers?

JCM11
05-06-2023, 08:16 PM
Friedl is easily the best all around position player on the team.

icehole3
05-06-2023, 08:16 PM
https://i.imgur.com/uC6tfog.gif

membengal
05-06-2023, 08:16 PM
mth - aye - it is possible they overworked him early too.

KeefeCato
05-06-2023, 08:16 PM
Let’s have the Reds first 3 run HR since 2018 here.


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You got it

VR
05-06-2023, 08:19 PM
You deserve a viking helmet!

Beers all around. About frickin time! Anyone got the real date of the last 3+ dinger?


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Ron Madden
05-06-2023, 08:19 PM
Bottom 5

Jose Barrero grounds out, third baseman Hanser Alberto to first baseman Andrew Vaughn. 1 out

Curt Casali singles on a ground ball to left fielder Andrew Benintendi.

Jonathan India walks. Curt Casali to 2nd.

TJ Friedl homers (3) on a fly ball to right center field. Curt Casali scores. Jonathan India scores
BOMB !!!

Spencer Steer flies out to right fielder Adam Haseley. 2 outs

Tyler Stephenson called out on strikes. 3 outs

CIN 4
CWS 3
After 5

JCM11
05-06-2023, 08:19 PM
Stephenson needs an eye exam. How do you take a center cut 92 mph fastball for strike 3?

TheBigLebowski
05-06-2023, 08:19 PM
I’m not burying Lodolo, but his stock is dropping.

At this point you have to extend Ashcraft first. I need to see how Lodolo finishes the season.

icehole3
05-06-2023, 08:20 PM
Ty Steve

https://i.imgur.com/ZwNM7f7.gif

Tony Cloninger
05-06-2023, 08:20 PM
Knocking out Clevinger just for his pitching motion alone is a win.

Redsfan6272
05-06-2023, 08:20 PM
I would send him to AAA if this keeps up. Way to many fat pitches he is taking down the middle. That's unexcusable

TheBigLebowski
05-06-2023, 08:21 PM
Stephenson needs an eye exam. How do you take a center cut 92 mph fastball for strike 3?

He’s been a profound disappointment.

Steer & Friedl, however, exceeding expectations.

VR
05-06-2023, 08:21 PM
Wow! What are tonights powerball numbers?

No powerball….but let me try:

“It sure is time to get McLain and CES up here”

On that note, MM with a double in his first ab tonight.


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757690
05-06-2023, 08:22 PM
Can Lodolo bounce back today?

Answer: No

0-2 Count
05-06-2023, 08:26 PM
Friedl is easily the best all around position player on the team.

Water is wet. The sky is blue. 2+2=4.

icehole3
05-06-2023, 08:27 PM
safe at 1st

Ironman92
05-06-2023, 08:27 PM
Holy defense

Ron Madden
05-06-2023, 08:29 PM
Top 6

Seby Zavala strikes out on a foul tip. 1 out

Adam Haseley walks.

Reds challenged (play at 1st): Reds challenged (play at 1st), call on the field was overturned: Tim Anderson grounds into a double play, shortstop Jose Barrero to second baseman Jonathan India to first baseman Spencer Steer. Adam Haseley out at 2nd. Tim Anderson out at 1st. 3 outs

CIN 4
CWS 3
Mid 6

RedTeamGo!
05-06-2023, 08:29 PM
When do we start getting a bit worried about Lodolo?

mth123
05-06-2023, 08:30 PM
Stephenson needs an eye exam. How do you take a center cut 92 mph fastball for strike 3?

Stephenson reminds me of Drew Stubbs at the plate. Take the first pitch for a strike no matter how fat it is out of some principle, then swing at stuff you can't hit because you've fallen behind in the count.

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When do we start getting a bit worried about Lodolo?

He missed half of 2021 and half of 2022. I never stopped worrying about Lodolo.

0-2 Count
05-06-2023, 08:32 PM
[QUOTE=mth123;4539836]Stephenson reminds me of Drew Stubbs at the plate. Take the first pitch for a strike no matter how fat it is out of some principle, then swing at stuff you can't hit because you've fallen behind in the count.
/QUOTE]

He does not remind me of Stubbs on the bases or in the field though.

mth123
05-06-2023, 08:33 PM
[QUOTE=mth123;4539836]Stephenson reminds me of Drew Stubbs at the plate. Take the first pitch for a strike no matter how fat it is out of some principle, then swing at stuff you can't hit because you've fallen behind in the count.
/QUOTE]

He does not remind me of Stubbs on the bases or in the field though.

Lol. Just at the plate. He never swings at the first pitch. They could put it on a tee and he'd take a called strike.

KeefeCato
05-06-2023, 08:34 PM
C make Stephenson full time resting every 3-4 games.
1b /DHCall up CES DFA Ramos
2b India for now
Ss Call up McLain DFA Casali
3b Leave Senzel there stop moving him
LF Fraley/Fairchild platoon
Cf make Friedl the everyday guy
RF Myers
DH/1B Steer

Bench Maile Barrero Newnan Fairchild/Fraley
It's not difficult. Defense will be no worse and the offense should be better.
Still need more LHB but it is what it is.

Ron Madden
05-06-2023, 08:35 PM
Bottom 6

Henry Ramos lines out to left fielder Andrew Benintendi. 1 out

Nick Senzel pops out to catcher Seby Zavala in foul territory. 2 outs

Wil Myers strikes out swinging. 3 outs

CIN 4
CWS 3
End of 6

icehole3
05-06-2023, 08:35 PM
Myers looks to far off the plate again

phlbilly
05-06-2023, 08:37 PM
Myers needs to go too. Just taking up a roster spot. He serves no purpose.

JCM11
05-06-2023, 08:38 PM
Senzel is a vacuum at third I'm impressed.

TheBigLebowski
05-06-2023, 08:41 PM
Myers is simply a waste of a couple million.

But on the bright side, maybe - just maybe - Senzel in his post-hype stage might actually be figuring things out.

Ron Madden
05-06-2023, 08:42 PM
Top 7

Pitching Change: Ian Gibaut replaces Derek Law.

Andrew Vaughn grounds out, third baseman Nick Senzel to first baseman Spencer Steer. 1 out

Luis Robert Jr. doubles (8) on a sharp fly ball to left fielder Henry Ramos.

Yasmani Grandal flies out to left fielder Henry Ramos. 2 outs

Andrew Benintendi flies out to center fielder TJ Friedl. 3 outs

CIN 4
CWS 3
Mid 7

icehole3
05-06-2023, 08:43 PM
Myers is simply a waste of a couple million.

But on the bright side, maybe - just maybe - Senzel in his post-hype stage might actually be figuring things out.

I'm shocked Senzel isn't on the DL.

Ironman92
05-06-2023, 08:46 PM
This cat is bringing the heat

TheBigLebowski
05-06-2023, 08:46 PM
i'm shocked senzel isn't on the dl.

hush

19518

icehole3
05-06-2023, 08:49 PM
Let's GO! Let's GO! Let's GO! Let's GO!
https://i.imgur.com/us9LSP3.gif

0-2 Count
05-06-2023, 08:50 PM
Love me some TJ Friedl

Ironman92
05-06-2023, 08:50 PM
That’s what he gets for throwing 112 mph

mth123
05-06-2023, 08:50 PM
Friedl for MVP

malcontent
05-06-2023, 08:50 PM
Friedl is a keeper.

JCM11
05-06-2023, 08:50 PM
Play Friedl everyday.

icehole3
05-06-2023, 08:50 PM
Friedl

Let's GO! Let's GO! Let's GO! Let's GO!
https://i.imgur.com/us9LSP3.gif

Ron Madden
05-06-2023, 08:53 PM
Bottom 7

Pitching Change: Gregory Santos replaces Mike Clevinger.

Jose Barrero grounds out, pitcher Gregory Santos to second baseman Elvis Andrus to first baseman Andrew Vaughn. 1 out

Curt Casali strikes out swinging. 2 outs

Jonathan India singles on a ground ball to right fielder Adam Haseley.

TJ Friedl triples (2) on a sharp line drive to right fielder Adam Haseley. Jonathan India scores.

Spencer Steer flies out to right fielder Adam Haseley. 3 outs

CIN 5
CWS 3
After 7

malcontent
05-06-2023, 08:54 PM
Is it at all possible for Bell to drop TS in the lineup?

0-2 Count
05-06-2023, 08:54 PM
Is it at all possible for Bell to drop him in the lineup?

Who?

Ironman92
05-06-2023, 08:55 PM
I feel the insurance run will be short lived

TheBigLebowski
05-06-2023, 08:55 PM
Yeah, I didn’t think I’d ever like the idea of Friedl being a part of the “future post-rebuild Reds,” but now I’ll be disappointed if he isn’t.

malcontent
05-06-2023, 08:56 PM
Who?
Stephenson.

Ron Madden
05-06-2023, 08:59 PM
Top 8

Defensive Substitution: Stuart Fairchild replaces left fielder Henry Ramos, batting 5th, playing left field.

Hanser Alberto grounds out, shortstop Jose Barrero to first baseman Spencer Steer. 1 out

Elvis Andrus strikes out swinging. 2 outs

Seby Zavala strikes out swinging. 3 outs

CIN 5
CWS 3
Mid 8

VR
05-06-2023, 09:00 PM
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Bats getting it done tonight. Chucky Robinson is unreal!


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Tony Cloninger
05-06-2023, 09:01 PM
Bullpen is doing continuing to exceed expectations.

KeefeCato
05-06-2023, 09:01 PM
It's still early but so far so good with Gibaut and law far better than expected. But again long season.
I think Stephenson will be fine. He is going to hit.

Tony Cloninger
05-06-2023, 09:02 PM
What happened to Siani.

icehole3
05-06-2023, 09:03 PM
Matt McLaunch hits number 9

757690
05-06-2023, 09:06 PM
Cowboy on the radio is drunk. He’s saying the Reds should call up Abbott next week.

VR
05-06-2023, 09:07 PM
Cowboy on the radio is drunk. He’s saying the Reds should call up Abbott next week.

100% with him. [emoji41]


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icehole3
05-06-2023, 09:07 PM
lets go
https://media.tenor.com/2_tFwj4t680AAAAS/cat-dunce.gif

0-2 Count
05-06-2023, 09:11 PM
Stephenson.

Yes. Easily can move him down. And, you can start that by calling up CES. Even if you don't do that, your cleanup guy cannot be totally void of power. Fraley if he's playing.

Ron Madden
05-06-2023, 09:11 PM
Bottom 8

Pitching Change: Alex Colome replaces Gregory Santos.

Tyler Stephenson walks.

Pinch-runner Kevin Newman replaces Tyler Stephenson.

Stuart Fairchild walks. Kevin Newman to 2nd.

Nick Senzel grounds into a double play, third baseman Hanser Alberto to second baseman Elvis Andrus to first baseman Andrew Vaughn. Kevin Newman to 3rd. Stuart Fairchild out at 2nd. Nick Senzel out at 1st. 2 outs

Wil Myers grounds out, shortstop Tim Anderson to first baseman Andrew Vaughn. 3 outs

CIN 5
CWS 3
End of 8

Tony Cloninger
05-06-2023, 09:12 PM
I loathe Will Myers. Stand closer to the plate!

TheBigLebowski
05-06-2023, 09:12 PM
Wil Myers is robbing the Castellinis. He’s putrid.

Ironman92
05-06-2023, 09:12 PM
Place is hoppin

0-2 Count
05-06-2023, 09:14 PM
Wil Myers is robbing the Castellinis. He’s putrid.

Well, if someone deserves to be robbed, it's the Castellinis. But, I agree with the sentiment that the less Myers I see, the happier I would be.

JCM11
05-06-2023, 09:14 PM
Steer has looked good at first tonight.

Tom Servo
05-06-2023, 09:16 PM
We’re good again :beerme:

icehole3
05-06-2023, 09:16 PM
Diaz
https://c.tenor.com/FVAyCpSG3FIAAAAC/denzel-washington-door.gif

Ron Madden
05-06-2023, 09:17 PM
Top 9

Adam Haseley grounds out, first baseman Spencer Steer to pitcher Alexis Diaz. 1 out

Tim Anderson singles on a line drive to right fielder Wil Myers.

Andrew Vaughn grounds into a double play, second baseman Jonathan India to shortstop Jose Barrero to first baseman Spencer Steer. Tim Anderson out at 2nd. Andrew Vaughn out at 1st. 3 outs



REDS WIN !!!



CIN 5
CWS 3
Final Score

Tadasimha
05-06-2023, 09:17 PM
Nice. Win the series tomorrow!

Ron Madden
05-06-2023, 09:18 PM
Box Score

https://www.mlb.com/gameday/white-sox-vs-reds/2023/05/06/718281/live/box

mth123
05-06-2023, 09:29 PM
TJ Friedl should get the win in this game.

VR
05-06-2023, 09:30 PM
Some bad defense tonight…but probably the game with the most good defensive plays as well.


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WVRedsFan
05-06-2023, 09:38 PM
REDS WIN!

Ky Fried Redleg
05-06-2023, 10:13 PM
Before the season, I never remotely thought I'd say this but TJ Friedl is clearly the best all-around player on the team. It's not even close.

mth123
05-06-2023, 10:14 PM
Before the season, I never remotely thought I'd say this but TJ Friedl is clearly the best all-around player on the team. It's not even close.

Same from me. I'm on the bandwagon.

Ky Fried Redleg
05-06-2023, 11:47 PM
Friedl 's a guy who can hit, run , and catch baseballs. One of few, if any, Reds who can do all three well. He's one of those guys who's just a ballplayer. In my opinion, you have your ballplayers in the lineup every day, especially when you have so few guys like that.

Kingspoint
05-07-2023, 01:36 AM
Play Friedl everyday.

He and India have played every game this season.

KeefeCato
05-07-2023, 04:38 AM
According to TV they had some sort of Johnny Bench hand out. Looks like the freebies are the only thing that draws crowds.
I've said this before and I'll say it again.
Even if the Reds were good. They still wouldn't have sell outs even in a 42k seat park Cincinnati is not a baseball town never has been never will be.
Even one of the best teams in history didn't draw crowds unless it was a summer weekend game or the Dodgers were in town.
Lots of 10k crowds during the BRM era.
Cincinnati is simply the oldest baseball club nothing else. They draw 25-30 K only if it's Saturday and some corny free handout. I get why some don't wanna give this clown ownership their money. But this isn't about that. History shows if they were a 108 win team. Crowds wouldn't always be great.
End rant.
Friedl is a Ball player and if Bell or whatever front office genius that makes the lineup decides to Bench him next time a LHP starts. Then that person needs fired on the spot.

KeefeCato
05-07-2023, 04:43 AM
He and India have played every game this season.

Yes they have. But around a dozen or more times Friedl hasn't started. Start the best players it not that difficult.
Friedl is one of if not the best player. He shouldn't be platooned on this club.

KeefeCato
05-07-2023, 04:58 AM
I don't want my last post in this thread to be about attendance and playing time.
Great win last night. Going for another series win today. With Ashcraft.
This team is fun to watch. Imagine if the FO had just addressed the 4th and 5th starters. Would likely be .500 club right now.

Ron Madden
05-07-2023, 09:10 AM
Charlie Goldsmith
@CharlieG__

The Reds pick up an impressive 5-3 victory over the White Sox.

In addition to some big hits by Jonathan India and TJ Friedl, the Reds made some great defensive plays and had some great base running to get the win.

Ky Fried Redleg
05-07-2023, 10:07 AM
I don't want my last post in this thread to be about attendance and playing time.
Great win last night. Going for another series win today. With Ashcraft.
This team is fun to watch. Imagine if the FO had just addressed the 4th and 5th starters. Would likely be .500 club right now.

We would have a real shot at being at least a .500 with legitimate 4th and 5th starters. The team plays hard(not always well) but are handcuffed two games out of five because of not having legitimate starters on those days. It's really an inexcusable faux pas by management/ownership, although the faux pas may have been just a willingness to be non-competitive.