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Ron Madden
05-14-2023, 09:51 AM
Reds
1. Jonathan India (R) 2B
2. Nick Senzel (R) 3B
3. Spencer Steer (R) 1B
4. Tyler Stephenson (R) DH
5. Stuart Fairchild (R) CF
6. Henry Ramos (S) LF
7. Wil Myers (R) RF
8. Kevin Newman (R) SS
9. Luke Maile (R) C
P. Luke Weaver (R)

Marlins
. Jon Berti (R) SS
2. Garrett Cooper (R) 1B
3. Luis Arraez (L) 2B
4. Jorge Soler (R) DH
5. Bryan De La Cruz (R) LF
6. Jean Segura (R) 3B
7. Peyton Burdick (R) RF
8. Nick Fortes (R) C
9. Garrett Hampson (R) CF
P. Braxton Garrett (L)

mth123
05-14-2023, 10:20 AM
Wil Myers hitting 7th against a LHP. Maybe the Reds are reaching a conclusion on him. He sure looks like 2019 Matt Kemp out there to me.

KeefeCato
05-14-2023, 10:22 AM
Any roster moves announced yet?

KeefeCato
05-14-2023, 10:24 AM
Wil Myers hitting 7th against a LHP. Maybe the Reds are reaching a conclusion on him. He sure looks like 2019 Matt Kemp out there to me.

Yeah I thought he could be a solid signing. Wasn't expecting him to be great. Figured with GABP factor he would be at least league average player. He still could be. Only takes a hot month. But it's not looking good for him 40 games in.

CySeymour
05-14-2023, 10:34 AM
I can't get behind the logic of having Kevin Newman as the starting shortstop with Matt McLain ripping up AAA.

LeatherPants
05-14-2023, 11:34 AM
I can't get behind the logic of having Kevin Newman as the starting shortstop with Matt McLain ripping up AAA.

Trust the plan! The Reds have shown time and again they know how to build a winning team!

Ron Madden
05-14-2023, 11:47 AM
paige
@paige_leckie

We have a plethora of roster moves this morning for the Reds:

• Legumina (right ankle contusion) & Lodolo (left calf tendinosis) to the 15-day IL
• Stoudt optioned to Triple-A
• Herget recalled, Busenitz & Bracho selected from Louisville
• Sanmartin & Overton to 60-day IL

NebraskaRed
05-14-2023, 11:49 AM
Friday, Myers lost a ball in the lights (he was only off by about 80 feet). Yesterday, he slipped on the warning track.

Today? I think he's going to start digging a hole out there and just sit in it.

icehole3
05-14-2023, 12:46 PM
Friday, Myers lost a ball in the lights (he was only off by about 80 feet). Yesterday, he slipped on the warning track.

Today? I think he's going to start digging a hole out there and just sit in it.

Myers at some point today.
https://media.tenor.com/ctGt6OpK81kAAAAM/cheese-rolling-run.gif

KeefeCato
05-14-2023, 01:00 PM
Lodolo out at least 4 weeks.

Ky Fried Redleg
05-14-2023, 01:13 PM
Not directly a baseball comment but I wanted to thank Boss and those responsible for giving me and other RZ members the privilege of commenting and engaging others on this wonderful forum. I don't get to watch a lot of games like I used to and I appreciate the opportunity to follow the games on the Gameday thread. You guys are so very baseball-knowledgeable and very funny, as well. Icehole, your gifs absolutely crack me up! Also, special thanks to Ron Madden for lineups, half-inning summaries, and box scores. It makes following the action so much easier when I'm not viewing a game.

Also, I wank to acknowledge all the wonderful mothers out there today in RZ land. I hope you all have a wonderful day. RZ'ers, for those of you who still have your moms, give her an extra special hug today and tell how much you love and appreciate her. .My mother is in failing health but fortunately she is still with me. There's nothing like a loving mother.

I hope you pardon me for getting off baseball track for a moment. Now, GO REDS!!! BROOMS!!!

goreds2
05-14-2023, 01:19 PM
Game will be on MLB Network OUT of Market only and is free on the MLB app OUT of market only.

Ron Madden
05-14-2023, 01:24 PM
Charlie Goldsmith
@CharlieG__

David Bell on TJ Friedl (oblique):
"He’s going to see exactly where he is today. They’ll push him a bit and give him a bit of a load to see if he feels anything. If he feels anything today, it’ll be an IL. If not, he could be back by the end of this next series or the weekend."

David Bell said it will probably be a minimum of four weeks before Nick Lodolo (calf) returns.
"He’ll be in a boot for a week to take all pressure off it. He was trying to pitch through it. The good thing is we got all the information yesterday that we needed. He’ll take a step back and be back healthy."

Ron Madden
05-14-2023, 01:29 PM
Charlie Goldsmith
@CharlieG__

The Reds have released Luis Cessa, who was DFAd last week.

Sassy Sal
05-14-2023, 01:31 PM
Per David Bell pre game, Lucas Sims was not feeling well yesterday thus the pitching only one batter. Bell didn't mention if he was still ill or not.

KeefeCato
05-14-2023, 01:37 PM
Per David Bell pre game, Lucas Sims was not feeling well yesterday thus the pitching only one batter. Bell didn't mention if he was still ill or not.

Hopefully nothing serious. At least it's not injury related.

Kc61
05-14-2023, 01:38 PM
I can't get behind the logic of having Kevin Newman as the starting shortstop with Matt McLain ripping up AAA.

Look at McLain’s defensive stats at short and the logic will be apparent.

Reds need to figure out an infield alignment - including McLain - and then go for it.

KeefeCato
05-14-2023, 01:38 PM
Do the Reds use a bullpen day when Lodolo's spot comes up or callup Abbott? I'm guessing bullpen day twice a week now.

Kc61
05-14-2023, 01:41 PM
Do the Reds use a bullpen day when Lodolo's spot comes up or callup Abbott? I'm guessing bullpen day twice a week now.

I hope they find a plausible starter from among Lively or whomever. These bullpen days will eventually strain the pitching staff. Once in awhile, fine, but . . . .

Ron Madden
05-14-2023, 01:42 PM
Do the Reds use a bullpen day when Lodolo's spot comes up or callup Abbott? I'm guessing bullpen day twice a week now.





Charlie Goldsmith
@CharlieG__
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Ben Lively and Kevin Herget are stretched out as starting pitchers. They have an off day on Thursday and won't need a fifth starter until next week.

757690
05-14-2023, 01:44 PM
I can't get behind the logic of having Kevin Newman as the starting shortstop with Matt McLain ripping up AAA.

I’ve said this before: Kevin Newman is the backup SS, he isn’t blocking any prospect. If the Reds called up McLain and EDLC tomorrow, Newman would still be on the team and still be getting the occasional start.

KeefeCato
05-14-2023, 01:44 PM
I hope they find a plausible starter from among Lively or whomever. These bullpen days will eventually strain the pitching staff. Once in awhile, fine, but . . . .

Lively is one of the ones they will likely to use a opener when he pitches.
He fared well but his stuff looked very hittable. Of the two Stoudt has much better stuff but he struggles to throw strikes. He can't come back up for a while barring someone going on IL.

Ron Madden
05-14-2023, 01:47 PM
Top 1

Jonathan India strikes out swinging. 1 out

Nick Senzel strikes out on a foul tip. 2 outs

Spencer Steer strikes out swinging. 3 outs

No score mid 1

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Lively is one of the ones they will likely to use a opener when he pitches.
He fared well but his stuff looked very hittable. Of the two Stoudt has much better stuff but he struggles to throw strikes. He can't come back up for a while barring someone going on IL.




Charlie Goldsmith
@CharlieG__

Ben Lively and Kevin Herget are stretched out as starting pitchers. They have an off day on Thursday and won't need a fifth starter until next week

mhs95_06
05-14-2023, 01:50 PM
Reds with the worst defense this season in decades.

KeefeCato
05-14-2023, 01:52 PM
Reds with the worst defense this season in decades.

Yes. First two batters should both be out.

mhs95_06
05-14-2023, 01:54 PM
Senzel with late bad decision. If he delays, may as well tag the lead runner.

LeatherPants
05-14-2023, 01:55 PM
Kevin Newman must bring some serious leadership qualities to the clubhouse because he isn’t bringing much to the field.

Ron Madden
05-14-2023, 01:56 PM
Bottom 1

Jon Berti singles on a ground ball to left fielder Henry Ramos.

Garrett Cooper singles on a ground ball to second baseman Jonathan India. Jon Berti to 2nd.

Luis Arraez flies out to left fielder Henry Ramos. 1 out

Jorge Soler grounds into a force out, third baseman Nick Senzel to second baseman Jonathan India. Jon Berti to 3rd. Garrett Cooper out at 2nd. Jorge Soler to 1st. 2 outs

Bryan De La Cruz strikes out swinging. 3 outs

No score
After 1

icehole3
05-14-2023, 01:56 PM
Nice job Weaver

mhs95_06
05-14-2023, 01:57 PM
Kudos to Weaver for getting a zero with about double the number of pitches it should have been.

Tony Cloninger
05-14-2023, 01:59 PM
How much worse can McLain or EDL defense be that their hitting would not make up for it. Compared to Jose. Newman.

cumberlandreds
05-14-2023, 01:59 PM
Yes. First two batters should both be out.

Newman is terrible. No reason McClain should not be up by now.

redsfan9988
05-14-2023, 02:00 PM
Man this guy is mowing ‘em down…

Sassy Sal
05-14-2023, 02:01 PM
Garrett going for the K record.

Ron Madden
05-14-2023, 02:05 PM
Top 2

Tyler Stephenson strikes out swinging. 1 out

Stuart Fairchild strikes out swinging. 2 outs

Henry Ramos hit by pitch.

Wil Myers called out on strikes. 3 outs

No score
Mid 2

TheBigLebowski
05-14-2023, 02:06 PM
Why have we not signed Myers to a muti-million dollar LTC?

cumberlandreds
05-14-2023, 02:07 PM
Garrett going for the K record.

14 to go to tie it. Myers looking like a house beside the road. He is as terrible as Newman.

Ky Fried Redleg
05-14-2023, 02:08 PM
Myers is quickly becoming one of my all-time least favorite Redlegs. Right up there with Matt Kemp. Come on, Wil, act like you wanna be here.

Tadasimha
05-14-2023, 02:08 PM
Nice play from Newman

Ky Fried Redleg
05-14-2023, 02:10 PM
Why have we not signed Myers to a muti-million dollar LTC?

Dammit, don't give them any ideas!!!

Ron Madden
05-14-2023, 02:11 PM
Reds have gone 11-6 winning 11 of their last 17 games

Tadasimha
05-14-2023, 02:11 PM
Uno-dos-tres for Weaver

cumberlandreds
05-14-2023, 02:11 PM
Weaver looking good through two.

Sassy Sal
05-14-2023, 02:13 PM
Weaver looking good through two.

I was honestly expecting him to struggle today. He really is looking confident so far.

Ron Madden
05-14-2023, 02:14 PM
Bottom 2

Jean Segura grounds out, shortstop Kevin Newman to first baseman Spencer Steer. 1 out

Peyton Burdick strikes out swinging. 2 outs

Nick Fortes lines out to right fielder Wil Myers. 3 outs

CIN 0
MIA 0
End of 2

redsfan9988
05-14-2023, 02:15 PM
Double for Newman! Looks like 6 more weeks of AAA for McLain.

icehole3
05-14-2023, 02:15 PM
Newman got a good swing on that

Tadasimha
05-14-2023, 02:16 PM
Dang - thought that might drop in

mhs95_06
05-14-2023, 02:17 PM
Did the scouting report on the RF's arm keep Newman from an aggressive attempt to get to 3B on the fly down the RF line?

redsfan9988
05-14-2023, 02:18 PM
Wow what a play!

mhs95_06
05-14-2023, 02:19 PM
Then Newman rakes 3rd on a sharp grounder to 3B?

KeefeCato
05-14-2023, 02:20 PM
Newman hits LHP well. It's his lack of arm and range at SS and playing too much against RHP is the problem.

icehole3
05-14-2023, 02:21 PM
Looked like nothing happened

Sassy Sal
05-14-2023, 02:21 PM
I do not see how that is catcher interference.

Tadasimha
05-14-2023, 02:21 PM
What the heck is Senzel trying to pull

redsfan9988
05-14-2023, 02:23 PM
Senzel reaching so hard for a technicality that he could almost play for the Rays.

cumberlandreds
05-14-2023, 02:23 PM
What the heck is Senzel trying to pull

No idea. The Reds just have some players that just aren't baseball smart.

Ron Madden
05-14-2023, 02:24 PM
Top 3

Kevin Newman doubles (2) on a sharp line drive to center fielder Garrett Hampson.

Luke Maile flies out to right fielder Peyton Burdick. 1 out

Jonathan India grounds out, third baseman Jean Segura to first baseman Garrett Cooper. Kevin Newman to 3rd. 2 outs

Nick Senzel grounds out, shortstop Jon Berti to first baseman Garrett Cooper. 3 outs

CIN 0
MIA 0
Mid 3

mhs95_06
05-14-2023, 02:24 PM
Shouldn't that be no pitch as the ump called it dead on the contact with the bat?

icehole3
05-14-2023, 02:25 PM
Love Senzel at 3rd.

redsfan9988
05-14-2023, 02:27 PM
Love Senzel at 3rd.

Newman at short is less encouraging

icehole3
05-14-2023, 02:27 PM
Newman

https://media.tenor.com/jLiPnLzm6QcAAAAd/funny-animals-dog.gif

redsfan9988
05-14-2023, 02:27 PM
Luke Maile is not a happy camper.

redsfan9988
05-14-2023, 02:31 PM
Weaver has pretty good stuff. He’s always been extremely hittable. Not sure why. Maybe concentration?

seems like Weaver and Stoudt have similar builds and stuff.

KeefeCato
05-14-2023, 02:31 PM
What exactly is this staggered start/ staggered stride that Sadak refers to 10 times each game? It was a routine fly ball to RF. Myers ran normal and caught the ball.

icehole3
05-14-2023, 02:33 PM
What the ____

https://media.tenor.com/wMWukwScMwIAAAAM/dog-shock.gif

redsfan9988
05-14-2023, 02:33 PM
What exactly is this staggered start that Sadak refers to 10 times each game. It was a routine fly ball to RF. Myers ran normal and caught the ball.

Caught the ball?

Did you mean “made the glove?”

Reds Freak
05-14-2023, 02:33 PM
Infield defense continues to be a circus act.

Ron Madden
05-14-2023, 02:33 PM
Bottom 3

Garrett Hampson grounds out, third baseman Nick Senzel to first baseman Spencer Steer. 1 out

Jon Berti reaches on a fielding error by shortstop Kevin Newman.

Garrett Cooper lines out to right fielder Wil Myers. 2 outs

Luis Arraez singles on a ground ball to first baseman Spencer Steer. Jon Berti out at 3rd, first baseman Spencer Steer to third baseman Nick Senzel. 3 outs

CIN 0
MIA 0
After 3

KeefeCato
05-14-2023, 02:35 PM
Senzel is the only infielder that's not terrible. By all accounts CES is just as bad.

Ron Madden
05-14-2023, 02:39 PM
Top 4

Spencer Steer lines out sharply to left fielder Bryan De La Cruz. 1 out

Tyler Stephenson strikes out swinging. 2 outs

Stuart Fairchild called out on strikes. 3 outs

CIN
MIA 0
Mid 4

redsfan9988
05-14-2023, 02:39 PM
Okay, so the box score says the Reds have made zero errors… I’ve watched this entire game and I respectfully disagree.

membengal
05-14-2023, 02:44 PM
Newman at short is less encouraging

Every time someone suggest it is defense that is holding McLain back I look at what we are using at short in terms of defense and…roll my eyes.

icehole3
05-14-2023, 02:45 PM
Okay, so the box score says the Reds have made zero errors… I’ve watched this entire game and I respectfully disagree.

The one Newman missed in the first he has to just put the glove down and he gets it.

redsfan9988
05-14-2023, 02:46 PM
The defense is disgusting. Just gross. Truly bad.

membengal
05-14-2023, 02:46 PM
They ruled the opening misplay by Newman to start the game a hit.

icehole3
05-14-2023, 02:47 PM
Ramos attempt
https://media0.giphy.com/media/UvBxwmRFCPGWhdj7LN/giphy.gif

mhs95_06
05-14-2023, 02:47 PM
Fairchild alert on the back-up -- he knows Reds defenders are very prone to not make the plays!

membengal
05-14-2023, 02:47 PM
There are t-ball teams that are steadier defensively than the reds most games.

redsfan9988
05-14-2023, 02:49 PM
Weaver getting squeezed by the ump.

And every batted ball is booted.

Really quite miraculous he’s held them off the scoreboard. Nice work.

Dave C
05-14-2023, 02:51 PM
Getting ahead 0-2 and then nibbles.

redsfan9988
05-14-2023, 02:52 PM
Getting ahead 0-2 and then nibbles.

The ghost of Tyler Mahle?

Tadasimha
05-14-2023, 02:52 PM
Nice pitch for the K

KeefeCato
05-14-2023, 02:53 PM
Be very lucky if Weaver gets through 5.

redsfan9988
05-14-2023, 02:53 PM
This ump is pretty bad…

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He’s safe… can Bell walk out and make a SS change?

membengal
05-14-2023, 02:55 PM
Oh Newman. Dealer of mini-heart attacks.

757690
05-14-2023, 02:55 PM
Newman having a tough day in the field.

icehole3
05-14-2023, 02:55 PM
He was safe

redsfan9988
05-14-2023, 02:56 PM
Newman having a tough day in the field.

If they call that one a base hit, I’m turning the game off.

membengal
05-14-2023, 02:56 PM
The idea that McLain being held back by his defense is genuinely ludicrous. Because the guys playing SS for the reds are…NOT GREAT defensively.

Tadasimha
05-14-2023, 02:56 PM
Clubbie needs to do something about the concrete in Newman's glove

icehole3
05-14-2023, 02:57 PM
Newman's fielding
https://media.tenor.com/ideJ1JyDphoAAAAd/bellebows-tiktok.gif

KeefeCato
05-14-2023, 02:57 PM
Well looks like bullpen will again be covering 5 innings again today. Using the callups.

Ky Fried Redleg
05-14-2023, 02:58 PM
Newman's fielding
https://media.tenor.com/ideJ1JyDphoAAAAd/bellebows-tiktok.gif

I'm learning a lot of zoology in these game threads. Thank you.

Ron Madden
05-14-2023, 02:58 PM
Bottom 4

Jorge Soler called out on strikes. 1 out

Bryan De La Cruz doubles (7) on a fly ball to center fielder Stuart Fairchild.

Jean Segura walks.

Peyton Burdick strikes out swinging. 2 outs

Marlins challenged (play at 1st), call on the field was overturned: Nick Fortes reaches on a fielding error by shortstop Kevin Newman. Bryan De La Cruz to 3rd. Jean Segura to 2nd.

Garrett Hampson strikes out swinging. 3 outs

CIN 0
MIA 0
End of 4

Sassy Sal
05-14-2023, 02:58 PM
Weaver tough as nails.

Tadasimha
05-14-2023, 02:58 PM
Use the force, Luke!

Ironman92
05-14-2023, 02:59 PM
I’m here…let’s win

redsfan9988
05-14-2023, 02:59 PM
DJ to Weaver: “uhh, probably should strike the next guy out. Not sure it’s a good idea to let him put it in play.”

Great advice, coach.

Nice job, Weaver.

Now let’s get some runs off of Garrett, who’s been sitting for like 30 minutes.

757690
05-14-2023, 03:00 PM
The idea that McLain being held back by his defense is genuinely ludicrous. Because the guys playing SS for the reds are…NOT GREAT defensively.

The issue is not about what is best for the MLB team, but what is best for McLain long term. If he comes up and has problems defensively in the majors, it could affect his hitting and his overall development.

Ron Madden
05-14-2023, 03:00 PM
This ump is pretty bad…

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He’s safe… can Bell walk out and make a SS change?

HP and 1B umps are both bad

Sea Ray
05-14-2023, 03:00 PM
The idea that McLain being held back by his defense is genuinely ludicrous. Because the guys playing SS for the reds are…NOT GREAT defensively.

The opposite of Newman, McLain made a diving nice play to throw out a runner today bang bang from SS. Newman doesn't have anything on him defensively

757690
05-14-2023, 03:01 PM
Weaver: “Defense? I don’t need no stinkin’ defense!”

redsfan9988
05-14-2023, 03:02 PM
The issue is not about what is best for the MLB team, but what is best for McLain long term. If he comes up and has problems defensively in the majors, it could affect his hitting and his overall development.

Put him at DH.

They’re 4 games out of 1st place despite an offense OPS+ing like 80.

icehole3
05-14-2023, 03:03 PM
Let's GO REDS! Let's GOOOOOO!
https://i.imgur.com/mv5l5kQ.gif

redsfan9988
05-14-2023, 03:05 PM
Newman seemed surprised Segura was able to handle that routine ground ball and throw him out.

Ironman92
05-14-2023, 03:06 PM
Dangit

redsfan9988
05-14-2023, 03:06 PM
Oof

Thats gone at GABP…

Tadasimha
05-14-2023, 03:06 PM
Dangit

Ditto

Ron Madden
05-14-2023, 03:06 PM
Top 5

Henry Ramos grounds out softly to catcher Nick Fortes. 1 out

Wil Myers doubles (3) on a sharp line drive to center fielder Garrett Hampson

Kevin Newman grounds out, third baseman Jean Segura to first baseman Garrett Cooper. 2 outs

Luke Maile flies out sharply to center fielder Garrett Hampson. 3 outs

CIN 0
MIA 0
Mid 5

mhs95_06
05-14-2023, 03:07 PM
Has Weaver got enough to get another zero and overcome the poor defense and thru 5 innings clean in the runs column?

membengal
05-14-2023, 03:10 PM
Weaver is as far from a prospect as you can get - I would go up to around 110 pitches with him myself.

KeefeCato
05-14-2023, 03:11 PM
Just saw Kershaw lost his mom.

Ron Madden
05-14-2023, 03:12 PM
Bottom 5

Jon Berti flies out to center fielder Stuart Fairchild. 1 out

Garrett Cooper strikes out swinging. 2 outs

Luis Arraez grounds out, shortstop Kevin Newman to first baseman Spencer Steer. 3 outs

CIN 0
MIA 0
After 5

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Weaver isn't nibbling the ump has missed a lot of low strikes

Ky Fried Redleg
05-14-2023, 03:15 PM
Just saw Kershaw lost his mom.

Wow, that's awful for Clayton. She couldn't have been too old.

Tadasimha
05-14-2023, 03:16 PM
Feels like the Reds need someone to put it over the wall to win

KeefeCato
05-14-2023, 03:17 PM
Feels like the Reds need someone to put it over the wall to win

This game might get ugly when Weaver leaves. If they are relying on the 2 callups to pitch. Hopefully 1 more for Weaver maybe 1 each for Young. Hegert and Sims if he isn't still sick.

icehole3
05-14-2023, 03:19 PM
Two on no outs.
https://i.imgur.com/A0QyesA.gif

membengal
05-14-2023, 03:22 PM
Based loaded and no outs. Need to cash this in.

icehole3
05-14-2023, 03:23 PM
Let's GO!

https://64.media.tumblr.com/781f9b87b4410c9859fc4089bc1d9563/c5ee2b088e3cdced-94/s500x750/48c109d861d92e65d4b6eea1ec07dc6980683f59.gif

Tadasimha
05-14-2023, 03:24 PM
Guess that counts as driving in a run

redsfan9988
05-14-2023, 03:24 PM
1-0 Reds

This has been a weird series.

Surely they’ll walk Fraley…

Dave C
05-14-2023, 03:24 PM
Stephenson was swinging at a pitch that would have hit him.... best results we could get I guess.

membengal
05-14-2023, 03:24 PM
Check swing grounder to first gets a run home from TySteve

mhs95_06
05-14-2023, 03:26 PM
Stephenson's ugly K avoidance gets the run in for a 1-0 lead, but leaves a base open for the avoidance of Fraley's bat and the resulting DP.

Tadasimha
05-14-2023, 03:26 PM
So much for the big inning

redsfan9988
05-14-2023, 03:26 PM
Sure am glad we have Ramos in that spot and not any of the guys OPSing 1.200 at AAA.

Ironman92
05-14-2023, 03:26 PM
Damnit Ramos….pitcher is on the ropes and you are the antsy one

KeefeCato
05-14-2023, 03:27 PM
Unbelievable.

icehole3
05-14-2023, 03:27 PM
Ramos

https://media.tenor.com/6AwpO-b-q-kAAAAd/llhlg-raccoon.gif

Dave C
05-14-2023, 03:27 PM
So... with the guys we have at AAA none of them can come up and keep us from doing this again and again?

Ron Madden
05-14-2023, 03:28 PM
Top 6

Jonathan India walks.

Nick Senzel singles on a line drive to center fielder Garrett Hampson. Jonathan India to 2nd.

Spencer Steer walks. Jonathan India to 3rd. Nick Senzel to 2nd

Tyler Stephenson grounds out softly to first baseman Garrett Cooper. Jonathan India scores. Nick Senzel to 3rd. Spencer Steer to 2nd. 1 out

Pinch-hitter Jake Fraley replaces Stuart Fairchild.

Bryan Hoeing intentionally walks Jake Fraley.

Henry Ramos grounds into a double play, shortstop Jon Berti to first baseman Garrett Cooper. Jake Fraley out at 2nd. Henry Ramos out at 1st. 3 outs

CIN 1
MIA 0
Mid 6

icehole3
05-14-2023, 03:29 PM
Thought that was gone

Dave C
05-14-2023, 03:29 PM
Ooof. Steer to 3rd. Hope that doesn't haunt.

Weaver getting hit hard this inning.

Ky Fried Redleg
05-14-2023, 03:31 PM
Let's play Scrabble. You have the letters H-E-N-R-Y-R-A-M-O-S . Make a play.

I'm going with EH, SORRY MAN.

Reds Freak
05-14-2023, 03:34 PM
Seems like the Reds have positioned infielders and outfielders in the wrong spots all game today.

redsfan9988
05-14-2023, 03:34 PM
Really good effort from Weaver.

membengal
05-14-2023, 03:34 PM
Good effort Luke Weaver. Did as well as one could expect, especially since his D
was not helpful.

icehole3
05-14-2023, 03:34 PM
Hard luck for Weaver

Ironman92
05-14-2023, 03:35 PM
Do the Reds even scout? Needing one more strike and you throw an outer 3rd thigh high fastball to Segura…who can’t do anything but hit the other way? On same pitch call 2nd baseman playing near 2nd

None of any of it made sense in that huge moment

icehole3
05-14-2023, 03:36 PM
Do the Reds even scout? Needing one more strike and you throw an outer 3rd thigh high fastball to Segura…who can’t do anything but hit the other way? On same pitch call 2nd baseman playing near 2nd

None of any of it made sense in that huge moment

India covered second

KeefeCato
05-14-2023, 03:37 PM
Larkin just stop. Diaz is not pitching.

757690
05-14-2023, 03:41 PM
If this game was being played at GABP, there would have been around 5 HR hit today

Ron Madden
05-14-2023, 03:41 PM
Bottom 6

Defensive switch from right field to first base for Wil Myers.
Jake Fraley remains in the game as the right fielder.
Defensive switch from first base to third base for Spencer Steer.
Defensive switch from third base to center field for Nick Senzel.

Jorge Soler flies out to left fielder Henry Ramos. 1 out

Bryan De La Cruz doubles (8) on a line drive to center fielder Nick Senzel.

Jean Segura singles on a ground ball to center fielder Nick Senzel. Bryan De La Cruz scores.

Pitching Change: Kevin Herget replaces Luke Weaver.

Peyton Burdick strikes out swinging. 2 outs

Nick Fortes flies out to left fielder Henry Ramos. 3 outs

CIN 1
MIA 1
End of 6

Reds Freak
05-14-2023, 03:44 PM
Sure am glad we have Ramos in that spot and not any of the guys OPSing 1.200 at AAA.

Terrible AB, but Ramos did win the game yesterday with a double. And none of those AAA guys are left-handed hitting OFers.

Ironman92
05-14-2023, 03:44 PM
India covered second

Why is he covering 2nd on an outside fastball to a RH oppo hitter?

Ky Fried Redleg
05-14-2023, 03:45 PM
So help me if I ever run into Wil Myers on the street somewhere:

https://i.gifer.com/8jKY.gif

redsfan9988
05-14-2023, 03:45 PM
Terrible AB, but Ramos did win the game yesterday with a double. And none of those AAA guys are left-handed hitting OFers.

Fair enough. Still frustrating to see some of these dudes getting regular PT when we have the world’s best AAA lineup,

icehole3
05-14-2023, 03:47 PM
Why is he covering 2nd on an outside fastball to a RH oppo hitter?

Larkin said the same thing.

Ron Madden
05-14-2023, 03:50 PM
Top 7

Pitching Change: Tanner Scott replaces Bryan Hoeing.

Wil Myers strikes out swinging. 1 out

Kevin Newman singles on a ground ball to left fielder Bryan De La Cruz

Luke Maile grounds into a double play, second baseman Luis Arraez to shortstop Jon Berti to first baseman Garrett Cooper. Kevin Newman out at 2nd. Luke Maile out at 1st. 3 outs

CIN 1
MIA 1
Mid 7

Ironman92
05-14-2023, 03:51 PM
Myers is quickly becoming one of my all-time least favorite Redlegs. Right up there with Matt Kemp. Come on, Wil, act like you wanna be here.

He’s been great on defense at multiple positions and seeing great effort in RF….looks lost at bat though

Reds Freak
05-14-2023, 03:51 PM
Fair enough. Still frustrating to see some of these dudes getting regular PT when we have the world’s best AAA lineup,

No doubt.

Ironman92
05-14-2023, 03:55 PM
Pitch call was inside and he missed to outside and runner advances because

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Need a strikeout

757690
05-14-2023, 03:59 PM
this game is about to get ugly

redsfan9988
05-14-2023, 03:59 PM
Oh man. Don’t throw it there…

icehole3
05-14-2023, 04:00 PM
https://www.gifcen.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/05/smh-gif-10.gif

KeefeCato
05-14-2023, 04:00 PM
Who didn't see this coming with this pitcher?

Ironman92
05-14-2023, 04:01 PM
I don’t care who is on the mound or whether they should be there or not

STOP THROWING CENTER CUT FASTBALLS

Pitch in….pitch out. Pitch up, pitch down….especially until it gets 3-1 or maybe 3-2

But FFS STOP PITCHING MEATBALLS RIGHT DOWN THE PIPE!

redsfan9988
05-14-2023, 04:02 PM
Who didn't see this coming with this pitcher?

In fairness, we’re literally out of pitchers. It is what it is. Marlins ‘pen is short and shaky too (if we can avoid the 4-run inning here).

mhs95_06
05-14-2023, 04:02 PM
Another misplay allowing the hitter take 2nd on a weak throw to the cut-off.

icehole3
05-14-2023, 04:02 PM
https://i.imgur.com/fw8AS8U.gif

redsfan9988
05-14-2023, 04:03 PM
In fairness, we’re literally out of pitchers. It is what it is. Marlins ‘pen is short and shaky too (if we can avoid the 4-run inning here).

Aaaaaand we can’t…

Ky Fried Redleg
05-14-2023, 04:04 PM
I can hear the banished BENCH from here.....B-E-L-L!!!!!!!

Ironman92
05-14-2023, 04:06 PM
Those damn middle fastballs to the first two hitters….early in the count!!!

Difference in the game

Ron Madden
05-14-2023, 04:07 PM
Bottom 7

Garrett Hampson doubles (8) on a sharp fly ball to center fielder Nick Senzel.

Jon Berti grounds out, first baseman Wil Myers to pitcher Kevin Herget. Garrett Hampson to 3rd. 1 out

Pitching Change: Alan Busenitz replaces Kevin Herget.

Garrett Cooper doubles (3) on a sharp line drive to center fielder Nick Senzel. Garrett Hampson scores.

Luis Arraez singles on a line drive to left fielder Henry Ramos. Garrett Cooper to 3rd. Luis Arraez to 2nd.

Bryan De La Cruz singles on a line drive to center fielder Nick Senzel. Garrett Cooper scores. Luis Arraez to 3rd. Jorge Soler to 2nd.

Jean Segura called out on strikes. 2 outs

Peyton Burdick flies out to left fielder Henry Ramos. 3 outs

MIA 3
CIN 1
After 7

KeefeCato
05-14-2023, 04:07 PM
Still in the game. Nice bounce back.

Ironman92
05-14-2023, 04:09 PM
Poor AB by India

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Hey….a center cut curve

Hit

icehole3
05-14-2023, 04:11 PM
Need to string some hits together

redsfan9988
05-14-2023, 04:11 PM
Oh ffs

That’s 8 inches inside.

CmdrCody
05-14-2023, 04:12 PM
Boozernuts is still pitching horrible as he did in spring training. Sadly they can DFA him to open 40 man spot without fear of loss

Ironman92
05-14-2023, 04:12 PM
This cat isn’t secure on the mound….I’d fake bunt and crap on him

redsfan9988
05-14-2023, 04:13 PM
Pleeeeease keep it off the ground, Tyler…

Ironman92
05-14-2023, 04:13 PM
Abysmal plate approach by our should be most polished hitter

icehole3
05-14-2023, 04:13 PM
He can't throw strikes

Ironman92
05-14-2023, 04:14 PM
We need a professional at bat here

membengal
05-14-2023, 04:15 PM
IMO - tysteve should have gotten a hit rather than striking out.

redsfan9988
05-14-2023, 04:16 PM
IMO - tysteve should have gotten a hit rather than striking out.

Indeed, sir. Bizarre strategy with the K there.

TheBigLebowski
05-14-2023, 04:16 PM
What is an Alan Busenitz?

membengal
05-14-2023, 04:16 PM
Boozernuts

Can we not?

BUTLER REDSFAN
05-14-2023, 04:16 PM
Instead of kissing his pinky every 5 seconds maybe Stevenson should take some extra batting practice. He's become a black hole at the plate

TexasRedsFan
05-14-2023, 04:17 PM
Fraley has earned the respect of Skip Schumacher.

Can he do it again?

Oh well, still gonna take the series.

membengal
05-14-2023, 04:18 PM
What is an Alan Busenitz?

Just called up. Last four years in Japan. Had last pitched in majors for twins. Up because our bullpen is worn thin and we have no other options in AAA.

Ky Fried Redleg
05-14-2023, 04:18 PM
What is an Alan Busenitz?

Lawyer who couldn't even pitch to a friendly jury???

Ironman92
05-14-2023, 04:18 PM
That 3-0 strike hurt

Ron Madden
05-14-2023, 04:19 PM
Top 8

Jonathan India grounds out, shortstop Jon Berti to first baseman Garrett Cooper. 1 out

Nick Senzel singles on a line drive to left fielder Bryan De La Cruz.

Spencer Steer walks. Nick Senzel to 2nd.

Tyler Stephenson strikes out swinging. 2 outs

Pitching Change: Steven Okert replaces Huascar Brazoban.

Jake Fraley flies out to center fielder Garrett Hampson. 3 outs

MIA 3
CIN 1
Mid 8

icehole3
05-14-2023, 04:22 PM
Nacho Bracho

BUTLER REDSFAN
05-14-2023, 04:24 PM
Silvio bracho...italian porn star??

Ky Fried Redleg
05-14-2023, 04:24 PM
Amazing that we have procured 18 wins thus far. SO deficient in so many areas of the game--- poor defense , instability in pitching rotation, unprofessional plate approaches, lack of pop in the lineup, lack of baseball IQ. 18 wins is amazing...

Ron Madden
05-14-2023, 04:26 PM
Bottom 8

Pitching Change: Silvino Bracho replaces Alan Busenitz

Nick Fortes pops out to second baseman Jonathan India. 1 out

Garrett Hampson strikes out swinging. 2 outs

Jon Berti pops out to second baseman Jonathan India. 3 outs

MIA 3
CIN 1
End of 8

757690
05-14-2023, 04:26 PM
Reds have used all 3 of the pitchers recalled today. Herget and Bracho pitched well


https://youtu.be/HVvXWUAKtus

Ironman92
05-14-2023, 04:26 PM
That pitcher with the ridiculous name….he has minimal MLB stuff but….BIG BUT, never threw any pitch in that mash zone.

icehole3
05-14-2023, 04:28 PM
Let's GO! Let's GO! Let's GO! Let's GO!
https://i.gifer.com/PK3x.gif

Ironman92
05-14-2023, 04:28 PM
Professional at bats please….5 of them needed this inning

Good luck

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Ramos….hideous at bat. Ump screwed him on 1st pitch but there’s 2 strikes remaining

icehole3
05-14-2023, 04:30 PM
Umps have a flight to catch

Ironman92
05-14-2023, 04:30 PM
Meh by Myers

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Umps have a flight to catch

Hope it gets delayed

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Newman ….professional at bat

mhs95_06
05-14-2023, 04:33 PM
The ump blows the first pitch of the inning, calling a strike on the low change-up so Ramos grounds out on the next pitch, another low one the ump caused him to do -- need robo called balls and strikes!

icehole3
05-14-2023, 04:33 PM
Don't swing at the trash

Ironman92
05-14-2023, 04:34 PM
Reds keep try to pull outside pitches

L

Ron Madden
05-14-2023, 04:35 PM
Top 9
Pitching Change: Dylan Floro replaces Steven Okert.

Henry Ramos grounds out, second baseman Luis Arraez to first baseman Garrett Cooper. 1 out

Wil Myers grounds out, second baseman Luis Arraez to first baseman Garrett Cooper. 2 outs

Kevin Newman walks.

Luke Maile called out on strikes. 3 outs

MIA 3
CIN 1
Final Score

Ky Fried Redleg
05-14-2023, 04:37 PM
Ramos, Myers, Newman, Maile doesn't give you much chance. Shameful when there's younger, better talent waiting in the wings...

Ron Madden
05-14-2023, 04:38 PM
Two series wins in a row and 11 wins outta the last 18 games ain't bad

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Box Score


https://www.mlb.com/gameday/reds-vs-marlins/2023/05/14/718178/live/box

Ky Fried Redleg
05-14-2023, 04:40 PM
Gotta get some better offensive talent up here to help this lineup.

Ron Madden
05-14-2023, 04:42 PM
Ramos, Myers, Newman, Maile doesn't give you much chance. Shameful when there's younger, better talent waiting in the wings...

Didn't Ramos have an RBI double in the late game winning rally yesterday?

Would love to see a couple of the kids called up though.

757690
05-14-2023, 04:43 PM
Ramos, Myers, Newman, Maile doesn't give you much chance. Shameful when there's younger, better talent waiting in the wings...

Newman was on base 3 times today. Myers has a key double. Ramos hit the game winning double last night. Maile is a 3rd string catcher who is has an OPS+ above 100.

Ron Madden
05-14-2023, 04:50 PM
Charlie Goldsmith
@CharlieG__

For the second time in three days, the Reds have a starting pitcher responding to the adversity of a struggling defense behind him and picking the entire team up.

Luke Weaver has had to get a lot of extra outs today, and he has delivered.

Ky Fried Redleg
05-14-2023, 04:52 PM
Newman was on base 3 times today. Myers has a key double. Ramos hit the game winning double last night. Maile is a 3rd string catcher who is has an OPS+ above 100.

Okay, but ,still, I wasn't exactly brimming with hopeful anticipation in the ninth with that quartet of talented , professional hitters awaiting.

JCM11
05-14-2023, 05:07 PM
I'll take a series win any time especially on the road.

Ky Fried Redleg
05-14-2023, 05:26 PM
I'll take a series win any time especially on the road.

Oh, definitely! However, having already won the first two, and given the opportunity to open up a nice lead late(bases juiced, no out) , only to get more terrible ABs and just one run in a very winnable game is frustrating. MM,EDLC, & CES can't get here soon enough for me.

757690
05-14-2023, 06:03 PM
I find this game thread illuminating. So many posters are upset that the Reds aren’t promoting their prospects because they think these prospects can help the Reds contend this year.

Who thought this would be the case when the season started? Who thought that the Reds would be near contention and who thought these prospects would be ready so soon?

Ron Madden
05-14-2023, 06:10 PM
I find this game thread illuminating. So many posters are upset that the Reds aren’t promoting their prospects because they think these prospects can help the Reds contend this year.

Who thought this would be the case when the season started? Who thought that the Reds would be near contention and who thought these prospects would be ready so soon?

It's a whole lot better and much more entertaining than last year so far, isn't it ?

Dave C
05-14-2023, 06:13 PM
I find this game thread illuminating. So many posters are upset that the Reds aren’t promoting their prospects because they think these prospects can help the Reds contend this year.

Who thought this would be the case when the season started? Who thought that the Reds would be near contention and who thought these prospects would be ready so soon?

I was pretty sure we'd see CES this year before July. EDLC, before the end of the year. McLain I wasn't sure which way he'd go at AAA. More strikeouts in search of HR's or settle back into what he's been prior to last year. He decided to mesh the two.

I'm really at a loss as to what CES and McLain have to accomplish at AAA. EDLC could work on plate discipline I guess but that doesn't seem to be who he is. They have to learn to make it at this level sometime and it would seem a waste to let it just be a half season or less.

KeefeCato
05-14-2023, 06:32 PM
I think this pitching staff is hanging on by a thread. Bullpen is way overworked.
I hope I'm wrong but I see a losing streak in the future. A 17 out of 20 type streak.

LeatherPants
05-14-2023, 06:48 PM
I think this pitching staff is hanging on by a thread. Bullpen is way overworked.
I hope I'm wrong but I see a losing streak in the future. A 17 out of 20 type streak.

They definitely need pitching help.

Ron Madden
05-14-2023, 07:59 PM
This Is From Mark Sheldon's News Letter:



As a former Minor League manager and player development director, Bell noted that he believes in Cincinnati's front office, scouts and Louisville manager Pat Kelly to do the right thing by De La Cruz.

"Having been in other positions gives me, I think, an advantage, a different perspective," Bell said. "You have to trust one another. That doesn’t mean you can’t have questions or conversations. That’s fun and that helps get it run, but it’s easy for me to trust that and it’s easy for me to focus on the team we have here and the players we have here."

De La Cruz isn't the only player at Louisville who has Reds fans dreaming about the future being closer to now. First baseman Christian Encarnacion-Strand (No. 6 prospect) started '23 on the injured list with a back issue but already has nine homers and is batting .346/.369/.728. Another hitter who chases, however, Encarnacion-Strand has just one walk compared to 23 strikeouts.

"You're also facing players in A ball, Double-A, Triple-A and those players are different than the players we're going to face here," Reds general manager Nick Krall said. "So, there's a lot of different processes that we're looking at from those guys. How are you taking at bats? Are you going to be trying to survive up here versus thriving up here? We want them to come up and thrive, not guys that are going to come up and solely survive."

Matt McLain (No. 5) might be the closest of the three to a callup. McLain who plays second base and shortstop, is hitting .346/.464/.713 and leads Louisville with 12 homers and 40 RBIs. Then there is left-handed pitcher Andrew Abbott (No. 10), who made a strong transition from Double-A Chattanooga to Louisville in the past few weeks.

And if you're wondering if there's service-time manipulation going on with any of these players, that hasn't been the Reds way. Jonathan India, Hunter Greene, Nick Lodolo, Tyler Stephenson and Alexis Díaz are among younger players on the big league team who weren't held back.

"We're looking at each guy as an individual person and each person has to improve on different things," Krall said. "Sometimes it's defense, sometimes it's offense, sometimes it's approach, sometimes it's using the whole field, sometimes it's pitch mix, sometimes it's certain pitches. So, there's a lot of things that you can look at for each guy, but each guy's got to hit their marks before we decide to call them up."


Read Full Story Here:
https://www.mlb.com/reds/news/reds-plan-for-top-prospect-elly-de-la-cruz

Ron Madden
05-14-2023, 09:20 PM
Reds starting pitcher Luke Weaver allowed one run in 5 ⅓ innings, but he would have gone seven innings if the Reds had played decent defense behind him. Reds shortstop Kevin Newman started the game by letting a ground ball go under his glove. The Reds couldn’t turn two routine double plays. Reds left fielder Henry Ramos made the mistake of diving at a low line drive and let the ball roll past him for a double. Then in the fourth inning, the Marlins loaded the bases when Kevin Newman booted a ground ball that should have resulted in an easy groundout. Weaver pitched out of the jam by striking out Marlins center fielder Hampson with a cutter that tailed outside of the strike zone.




https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/other/defense-lack-of-depth-cost-the-reds-in-loss-to-the-marlins/ar-AA1bbhA4

Ky Fried Redleg
05-14-2023, 09:36 PM
It's a whole lot better and much more entertaining than last year so far, isn't it ?

Absolutely!!! And it will be more entertaining, still, watching McLain, CES, and the Amazing Abbott in place of Newman, Ramos, and The Opener.
I might even buy a ticket for the first time in decades.

Ron Madden
05-14-2023, 10:06 PM
Charlie Goldsmith
@CharlieG__

The Reds plan to call up shortstop prospect Matt McLain, on Monday a source confirmed to The Enquirer.

A big piece of the Reds' core is heading to the big leagues

goreds2
05-15-2023, 09:22 AM
We lost but Luke Weaver seems to be improving.

LeatherPants
05-15-2023, 09:27 AM
We lost but Luke Weaver seems to be improving.

One good start in a row is an improvement! (Sadly, that's actually true).

goreds2
05-15-2023, 09:37 AM
One good start in a row is an improvement! (Sadly, that's actually true).

Last start he gave up 4 runs in 6 innings. Start before that was 4 runs in 4 1/3 innings. I do understand your comment though but do like the improvement he is showing with each start.

Kingspoint
05-15-2023, 01:20 PM
Another Series Win, making it 4 of 6 in that department.