8-4-23 Nationals @ Reds 6:40 PM

[Ron Madden]

Reds
1. E De La Cruz (S) SS
2. N Senzel (R) RF
3. M McLain (R) 2B
4. S Steer (R) LF
5. K Newman (R) 3B
6. J Votto (L) DH
7. C Encarnacion-Strand (R) 1B
8. T Stephenson (R) C
9. S Fairchild (R) CF
P. G. Ashcraft (R)

Nationals
1. C. Abrams (L) SS
2. L. Thomas (R) RF
3. J. Meneses (R) DH
4. K. Ruiz (S) C
5. D. Smith (L) 1B
6. B. Rutherford (L) LF
7. I. Vargas (S) 3B
8. J. Alu (L) 2B
9. A. Call (R) CF
P. P. Corbin (L)

[0-2 Count]

I understand sitting Fraley against a LH starter. But, there is no reason not to have at least 1, if not both, of Friedl and Benson in the lineup. And Newman in the 5-hole instead of CES?

[Ironman92]

20100

100 hit seasons in parentheses

Votto almost has as many hits as the rest of them combined…probably did a month a go

And Will Benson 57

[Ky Fried Redleg]

I have no words... For now .

[Ironman92]

100 hit seasons in parentheses

[JarrodOnVinyl]

This lineup will wreak havoc on Patrick Corbin. Let's see if the defense can keep from collapsing this time

[mhs95_06]

Can you guess who Friedl, Fraley, and Benson will PH for in the #2, #5, #9 spots when a righty P comes in? I like it!

[CaiGuy]

I understand sitting Fraley against a LH starter. But, there is no reason not to have at least 1, if not both, of Friedl and Benson in the lineup. And Newman in the 5-hole instead of CES?

They won't sit. Hopefully they will chase Corbin at some point and Frield will PH for Senzel, Fraley for Newman (though I wouldn't start him either), and Benson for Stew.

Steer to 3B, Frield stays in at CF, Fraley stays in at RF, and Benson at LF.

[Ironman92]

You can’t be surprised by things that aren’t surprising.

Newman, Senzel and now Fairchild get the starts versus lefties and for whatever reason are high in the batting order.

Benson had his one chance and struck out a couple times…versus lefties he’s in the AAA lineup that day. Friedl is our player who is top 10 in batting average, gold glove like fielder in CF and 2nd on the team in WAR….the last time he didn’t play CF there was a critical missed deep pop out that began everything unraveling.

Newman and Senzel had two of the worst fielding games we have seen in a while but they are in there for that bats. I’ll assume they’ll combine for 6 hits.

It’s a fun game to see how long into the season Fairchild can have more plate appearances than Benson

[VR]

Bless the Barves.


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[Ironman92]

OPS vs lefty pitchers:

Fairchild .749
Friedl .752

[CySeymour]

Friedl I agree should be playing, but Benson has a history of not hitting lefties at all, in the majors and the minors.

[Reds197576]

I have to admit I'm a bit surprised — and disappointed — to see Fairchild and Newman in the starting lineup tonight. Neither player is a difference-maker at the plate. Friedl and Benson have earned their starting positions. Fairchild is a AAA player at best. Newman is depth in the infield, not a starter. The runs might be few and far between this evening for the home team with this lineup.

[JFLegal]

Way to learn from your mistakes, Bell. Yikes.

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OPS vs lefty pitchers:

Fairchild .749
Friedl .752

And one of them isn't afraid of the wall in centerfield.

[Ironman92]

Well I did my dart game to determine how Elly will do tonight

1st AB strikeout on 4 pitches
2nd AB groundout
3rd AB 2 run HR
4th AB double
5th AB beats out an infield single that gets challenged

[Ironman92]

Tucker Barnhart on the mound as the Braves do to the Cubs what the Cubs did to the Reds

37 mph

6 pitch inning got the top of the Braves order out

[JCM11]

Bell got his contract extension and is all in on the Senzel, Newman, Fairchild trio lmao.

[Tom Servo]

I generally don't concern myself with lineup stuff, but Newman ahead of CES is a truly baffling choice.

[RollyInRaleigh]

Boy oh boy…what a lineup.


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[Ironman92]

I generally don't concern myself with lineup stuff, but Newman ahead of CES is a truly baffling choice.

Newman .899 OPS vs lefties!!!!!

Now tell me why Benson bats 9th versus righties?

[CaiGuy]

Tucker Barnhart on the mound as the Braves do to the Cubs what the Cubs did to the Reds

37 mph

6 pitch inning got the top of the Braves order out

Third shutout inning of the year for him...sign him up!

[Ironman92]

Braves/Cubs games was 2 hours 9 min

[taylor]

Sorry but I'm tired of Senzel and Newman.We need our best out there.

[membengal]

Made the second trip of the year to Cincinnati- this time with my wife. Going to the game tonight. Let’s start good things anew.

[Kc61]

It is well proven that lefty/lefty matchups strongly favor the pitcher. This year, lefty hitters MLB-wide are batting .688 OPS against lefties. RHH are batting .756 OPS against lefties. This is not unusual, it’s similar every year.

Bell believes in playing matchups, so he’s going to hit RHH against LHP in most cases, if possible.

[RedTeamGo!]

Made the second trip of the year to Cincinnati- this time with my wife. Going to the game tonight. Let’s start good things anew.

I’ll be at the game tomorrow. If you see a guy in an Elly t-shirt yelling at his kids to “STOP HITTING EACH OTHER” come up and say hi!

[membengal]

Splurged. Row S behind third base dugout. Time to finally get a foul ball.

[RiverfrontRed]

Let's keep rotating guys at 3B every other game!!

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Splurged. Row S behind third base dugout. Time to finally get a foul ball.

Good luck with the foul ball and the W.

[RedTeamGo!]

OPS vs lefty pitchers:

Fairchild .749
Friedl .752

Friedl has been awful for like a month, though.

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Way to learn from your mistakes, Bell. Yikes.

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And one of them isn't afraid of the wall in centerfield.

Friedl missed a ball at the brick wall in Wrigley literally the day before Fairchild did. This narrative is silly.

[Ironman92]

Friedl has been awful for like a month, though.

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Friedl missed a ball at the brick wall in Wrigley literally the day before Fairchild did. This narrative is silly.

The difference in those plays is sizable.

[LeatherPants]

Now tell me why Benson bats 9th versus righties?

Gets on base for the top of the lineup.

[Kc61]

I generally don't concern myself with lineup stuff, but Newman ahead of CES is a truly baffling choice.

1. Newman is hitting .899 OPS against LHP.

2. Bell sometimes leaves a young guy like CES lower down for awhile as he cuts his teeth on MLB pitching.

[Larry Schuler]

The last 3 days are in the past. Today, we begin anew, eager to see what the Universe shall provide for the Reds who are passive participants in their own season.

[KeefeCato]

The Reds are 2nd in the NL in winning percentage when they face a left handed starting pitcher. Only the Braves are better.
So I guess that platoon lineup is working .

[KeefeCato]

The last 3 days are in the past. Today, we begin anew, eager to see what the Universe shall provide for the Reds who are passive participants in their own season.

Got any words of wisdom for the platoon haters here? Or maybe I should say the tired David Bell haters.

[icehole3]

Reds
1. E De La Cruz (S) SS
2. N Senzel (R) RF
3. M McLain (R) 2B
4. S Steer (R) LF
5. K Newman (R) 3B
6. J Votto (L) DH
7. C Encarnacion-Strand (R) 1B
8. T Stephenson (R) C
9. S Fairchild (R) CF

Newman in the 5 hole trying to hold this lineup together.

https://i.imgur.com/EFwVq5A.gif

[mhs95_06]

Way to learn from your mistakes, Bell. Yikes.

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And one of them isn't afraid of the wall in centerfield.

But yet didn't he also have a critical missed catch out at the ivy covered brick wall this week?

[Larry Schuler]

Got any words of wisdom for the platoon haters here? Or maybe I should say the tired David Bell haters.

Not worth my time. I’m here to sip a cold one, puff on a cigar, kick up the feet on my garage-a-lounger, and root for the Cincy C.

[mhs95_06]

I generally don't concern myself with lineup stuff, but Newman ahead of CES is a truly baffling choice.

The line-up is set so that it's the way Bell wants it at the end of the game, and the hitters he wants to start the game vs. the lefty.

[RedTeamGo!]

The difference in those plays is sizable.

He misplayed it and it hit him in the glove.

[Ironman92]

Gets on base for the top of the lineup.

You want the 1.035 OpS guy getting the fewest plate appearances and the .755 OPS guys driving him in?

[mhs95_06]

It is well proven that lefty/lefty matchups strongly favor the pitcher. This year, lefty hitters MLB-wide are batting .688 OPS against lefties. RHH are batting .756 OPS against lefties. This is not unusual, it’s similar every year.

Bell believes in playing matchups, so he’s going to hit RHH against LHP in most cases, if possible.

Is the gap between righty and lefty hitters against righty pitchers wider or narrower?

[REDREAD]

Made the second trip of the year to Cincinnati- this time with my wife. Going to the game tonight. Let’s start good things anew.

I'm glad you got Ashcroft for your trip.
I usually get a bad starter when I go lol

[icehole3]

https://i.imgur.com/KdPYWC1.png

[Dave C]

Over/under.... 100 posts on the trade deadline.

[jeff337]

Another ****ty line up...I so hope Newman has 9 errors..He has tp be sent away..

[Ironman92]

He misplayed it and it hit him in the glove.

I’ve watched both plays 10x (it’s sad yes) Both players will tell you they should’ve had it. Frieda’s play was decently tougher play…it just was. One was a driven pop up type ball and was was a rope that tailed.

Fairchild had 5.4 seconds from the time the ball left the bat until the ball got to his glove….Friedl had 3.9 seconds. Fairchild’s should get caught every time while Friedl’s would’ve been a highlight play.


Both could’ve been caught, one was decently more difficult if a play.

We need a win tonight.

[mhs95_06]

You want the 1.035 OpS guy getting the fewest plate appearances and the .755 OPS guys driving him in?

Want him to stay in the spot where he is accomplishing that.

[icehole3]

Larkin - Ashcraft is the stopper.

https://media.tenor.com/nLJD0pcRW3gAAAAM/booklovergifs.gif

[KeefeCato]

Another ****ty line up...I so hope Newman has 9 errors..He has tp be sent away..

Wow.
2nd best winning percentage in the NL when facing a Left hand starting pitching. Guess that lineup you crap on has been working more often than not eh?

[NDRed]

First time on game thread on year let's make it good one!

[Ironman92]

Newman with the play for out #1

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First time on game thread on year let's make it good one!

It’s been pretty ornery of late

[KeefeCato]

Newman with the play for out #1

Good thing he didn't listen to the poster above and make 9 errors

[OldFashionedRed]

Wow.
2nd best winning percentage in the NL when facing a Left hand starting pitching. Guess that lineup you crap on has been working more often than not eh?

I don't think most people are arguing success versus LHP. It's *where* in the lineup certain guys are. That is a problem.

[Dave C]

So far he's thrown 2 nasty sinking 99.5 fastball things that he throws.

[OldFashionedRed]

First time on game thread on year let's make it good one!

Why so late?

[Ironman92]

Ashcraft wild on the 2 out walk

[jeff337]

Wow.
2nd best winning percentage in the NL when facing a Left hand starting pitching. Guess that lineup you crap on has been working more often than not eh? Oh this line up has won those games?? HAHAHHA

[Ironman92]

Not much harm in the 1st….

Now the Reds!

[icehole3]

Good work

[mhs95_06]

Ashcraft gets the zero on 15 pitches, of which the BB cost 5.

[KeefeCato]

Oh this line up has won those games?? HAHAHHA

2nd best winning percentage in the NL when facing a left hand starting pitcher. Meaning Senzel, Newman started every game against a left hand starter when healthy and Fairchild when he was up.
Is that too difficult for you to grasp? Google if you don't believe me.

[jeff337]

Good thing he didn't listen to the poster above and make 9 errors HAHAHA...Its amazing how people will make crappy players great because of an easy play...

[NDRed]

I changed jobs, use to work nights and watch every game on MLB APP, this might be my first live game all year

[KeefeCato]

HAHAHA...Its amazing how people will make crappy players great because of an easy play...

Never said he was great. But I also don't root for him to make 9 errors. Are you a Nationals fan?

[Ironman92]

Well I did my dart game to determine how Elly will do tonight

1st AB strikeout on 4 pitches
2nd AB groundout
3rd AB 2 run HR
4th AB double
5th AB beats out an infield single that gets challenged


I’m 1/1

[Dave C]

Once he gets 2 strikes he's swinging at the next pitch and everyone knows it.

[mhs95_06]

Elly's AB went fine until he started swinging.

[Ironman92]

Nick wins

[OldFashionedRed]

Bell is going to his grave with Elly in the leadoff spot. He's trying to prove some point rather than putting guys in spots where they can best help the team.

[Larry Schuler]

Senzel haters, here’s a napkin. Wipe that egg off your face.

[icehole3]

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[Dave C]

Did they steal the Minnesota Vikings horn?

[Ironman92]

McLain wins

[Larry Schuler]

McClain haters. You can now board the hater plane and get the H out of here.

[Ron Madden]

Senzel & McLain Back to Back Bombs !!!

[OldFashionedRed]

Just put a Real Doll out there in place of Senzel when we're on defense :D

[villain612]

Reds MVPs this year:

Matt McLain
Andrew Abbott
The Atlanta Braves

[NDRed]

I'm good luck!

[icehole3]

https://i.imgur.com/KsCv1hH.png

[OldFashionedRed]

McClain haters. You can now board the hater plane and get the H out of here.

He has a heck of a lot of power for a small guy. Weren't they talking the other day about how MLB is trending toward smaller, stockier players instead of the tall, lean guys?

[Ironman92]

At some point Sadak will learn to read the outfielder on those calls

[mhs95_06]

Nick wins

Took advantage of the wall distance contrived for Griffey!

[Ironman92]

He has a heck of a lot of power for a small guy. Weren't they talking the other day about how MLB is trending toward smaller, stockier players instead of the tall, lean guys?

Will be compressing Elly to 5’11 this winter

[Ron Madden]

CIN 2
WSH O
After 1

[Ironman92]

Took advantage of the wall distance contrived for Griffey!

McLain’s was out in many ball parks

[KeefeCato]

Will be compressing Elly to 5’11 this winter

You won . Post of the night. Well done.

[VR]

Larkin - Ashcraft is the stopper.

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Anyone following our 3-4-5 is the stopper.


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[Ironman92]

Ashcraft a bit wild early on

[Tom Servo]

Blake Rutherford another real 2016 draft success story

[icehole3]

David Bell's lineup.

https://i.imgur.com/lWNysTZ.gif

[Ironman92]

Nats don’t work the count like the Cubs

[NDRed]

That works!

[Ron Madden]

Dominic Smith hit by pitch

Blake Rutherford grounds into a double play, shortstop Elly De La Cruz to first baseman Christian Encarnacion-Strand. Dominic Smith out at 2nd. Blake Rutherford out at 1st. 2 outs

Ildemaro Vargas grounds out, second baseman Matt McLain to first baseman Christian Encarnacion-Strand. 3 outs

[VR]

22 pitches through 2. Glorious.


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[Ironman92]

You won . Post of the night. Well done.

My apologies to Larry Schuler

[jeff337]

Never said he was great. But I also don't root for him to make 9 errors. Are you a Nationals fan? nope...Reds fan since 1968....just know a crappy player when i see one...

[NDRed]

I'm sure it's been mentioned in game thread 1000 times, but those uniforms are God-awful ugly!

[NebraskaRed]

Somehow Votto looks younger in the City Connect uni. No idea why.

[mhs95_06]

22 pitches through 2. Glorious.


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HBP worked out to reduce the PC with the DP!

[TheBigLebowski]

Corbin has been dialed in since 2020.

[Ironman92]

CES hit it well but a frictionless inning for Corbin

[Ron Madden]

CIN 2
WSH 0
End of 2

[RedTeamGo!]

Somehow Votto looks younger in the City Connect uni. No idea why.

Black is slimming

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I'm sure it's been mentioned in game thread 1000 times, but those uniforms are God-awful ugly!

Hard disagree

[Ironman92]

Black is slimming

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Hard disagree

Black is slimming but fat hides wrinkles

[KeefeCato]

nope...Reds fan since 1968....just know a crappy player when i see one...

Oh Reds nice. You were around for Sparky then. Sparky loved platooning. He started guys like Locklear, Scheinblum and Crowley instead of foster due to those guys hitting left handed. Took him 4 years to insert Foster and Geronimo as full time starters.
Foster might be in the hall of fame if he hadn't been platooned for 4 years.

[NebraskaRed]

Nice catch by Fairchild

[Ron Madden]

Nice Play Fairchild

[icehole3]

Nice catch

[Ironman92]

Nice play….the wall was a foot or so farther then he thought so he hit it a bit harder than he hoped.

Good work

[Ironman92]

Darts say groundout

[mhs95_06]

Nice play….the wall was a foot or so farther then he thought so he hit it a bit harder than he hoped.

Good work

But he knew it would give more than the one in Chicago! Sun was not conducive either. If I remember right also, the Friedl miss in Chicago was complicated by a pretty stout crosswind.

[Ironman92]

Elly scores. Elly wins

[Ron Madden]

Elly Goes BOOOOM !!!

[Tom Servo]

Elly :jump:

[Dave C]

Finally got his first strike of the night and hit it.... hard.

[icehole3]

EDLC

https://media.tenor.com/9j17lsP_dhEAAAAM/legend-legendary.gif

[TheBigLebowski]

That was an ICBM

[membengal]

This is fun. I am having fun.

[Larry Schuler]

“The Reds will never win again.”
“Elly is a bust.”

^ Everyone saying this needs to lay down and apologize.

[KeefeCato]

Elly :jump:

First one as a right hand batter

[jeff337]

Still the best line I have heard is that ball had a family!!!

[LeatherPants]

Elly becoming Ricky Henderson would be a pretty cool thing.

[TheBigLebowski]

That’s his first HR as a righty??

[Ironman92]

But he knew it would give more than the one in Chicago! Sun was not conducive either. If I remember right also, the Friedl miss in Chicago was complicated by a pretty stout crosswind.

Everything in Wrigley is wind issue

Yeah….when a big league, especially a borderline playing time guy messes one up a bit….he’s going to catch the next if at all possible and walls are less considered

[TheBigLebowski]

I want to see CES get sideways of one.

[Ironman92]

Elly becoming Ricky Henderson would be a pretty cool thing.

The compression this winter will put him under the top

[KeefeCato]

I never posted this so I have no proof. But I predicted Elly would take Corbin deep. Not some great prediction as Corbin stinks.

[Ron Madden]

CIN 3
WSH 0
After 3

[Larry Schuler]

Elly becoming Ricky Henderson would be a pretty cool thing.

But for real. Are you Ricky Henderson?

[Dave C]

I never posted this so I have no proof. But I predicted Elly would take Corbin deep. Not some great prediction as Corbin stinks.

I thought if he could get a ball to hit he would against this guy. He's a crafty lefty but for once EDLC was up in the count and straightened one out in the middle of the zone and he didn't miss it. 113 off the bat.

[KeefeCato]

I got tickets to Wed Sept 20 game vs. Minnesota today. Probably too early but I'm hoping they clinch that day.

[Ironman92]

CES better flexibility over there it appears

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But for real. Are you Ricky Henderson?

Rickey’s user name on here is John Olerud

[jeff337]

Oh Reds nice. You were around for Sparky then. Sparky loved platooning. He started guys like Locklear, Scheinblum and Crowley instead of foster due to those guys hitting left handed. Took him 4 years to insert Foster and Geronimo as full time starters.
Foster might be in the hall of fame if he hadn't been platooned for 4 years. So you agree with me...

[icehole3]

That’s his first HR as a righty??

yes

[Ron Madden]

Top 4

Lane Thomas grounds out, shortstop Elly De La Cruz to first baseman Christian Encarnacion-Strand. 1 out

Joey Meneses singles on a ground ball to center fielder Stuart Fairchild

Keibert Ruiz lines out to left fielder Spencer Steer. 2 outs

Dominic Smith lines out to left fielder Spencer Steer. 3 outs

[icehole3]

Good work

[Dave C]

Ashcraft is mowing them down. Another quality start incoming it seems. I'd like to get a couple on before the next HR please.

[Tom Servo]

Top 4

Joey Votto strikes out swinging. 1 out

Joey Meneses singles on a ground ball to center fielder Stuart Fairchild

Keibert Ruiz lines out to left fielder Spencer Steer. 2 outs

Dominic Smith lines out to left fielder Spencer Steer. 3 outs
That nefarious Votto switching sides mid-game!

[Kc61]

That nefarious Votto switching sides mid-game!

And he said he was a Red for life.

[TheBigLebowski]

A potential SP target suggested by a few, James Paxton, is getting shelled tonight vs TOR.

1.1 IP and 3 HR already allowed.

Just an tidbit. Would take him over Weaver in a nanosecond.

[NebraskaRed]

That nefarious Votto switching sides mid-game!

Collecting two paychecks. Smart guy.

[TheBigLebowski]

Today is Kevin Newman’s birthday.

[KeefeCato]

So you agree with me...

I don't mind platooning. Because in close games in the 5th Corbin will be gone a right hander will likely come in and Bell can pinch hit.
They don't face that many Left hand starters. But when they do it seems like they face them in bunches. I believe they only faced one the entire month of July. Bench guys need at bats from time to time.
Nobody think Senzel or Newman are great but the numbers show the one thing they do really well is hit left hand pitchers good. At least this year. It's putting guys in the best situation for them to succeed. I do agree when he plays Newman should be DH. He should never play the field in non blowout games.

[Ironman92]

Newman reaches on an error

[Ron Madden]

Nice hustle Newman

[Larry Schuler]

Holy moises.

[Ironman92]

Joey GIDP

[TheBigLebowski]

Nice of Votto to give Alu a shot at redemption

[jeff337]

I don't mind platooning. Because in close games in the 5th Corbin will be gone a right hander will likely come in and Bell can pinch hit.
They don't face that many Left hand starters. But when they do it seems like they face them in bunches. I believe they only faced one the entire month of July. Bench guys need at bats from time to time.
Nobody think Senzel or Newman are great but the numbers show the one thing they do really well is hit left hand pitchers good. At least this year. It's putting guys in the best situation for them to succeed. I do agree when he plays Newman should be DH. He should never play the field in non blowout games.

Not a bad opinion

[mhs95_06]

Alu starts a DP that undid the error he committed!

[Ron Madden]

Bottom 4

Spencer Steer walks

Kevin Newman reaches on a fielding error by second baseman Jake Alu. Spencer Steer to 2nd

Joey Votto grounds into a double play, second baseman Jake Alu to shortstop CJ Abrams to first baseman Dominic Smith. Spencer Steer to 3rd. Kevin Newman out at 2nd. Joey Votto out at 1st. 2 outs

Christian Encarnacion-Strand grounds out, shortstop CJ Abrams to first baseman Dominic Smith. 3 outs

CIN 3
WSH 0
End of 4

[Kc61]

With Ashcraft and Corbin you’re going to get some DPs on both sides.

Ground ball tendencies, as they say.

[TheBigLebowski]

That stunk. 2 on, no out and come away with nada.

[Ky Fried Redleg]

The last 3 days are in the past. Today, we begin anew, eager to see what the Universe shall provide for the Reds who are passive participants in their own season.

Larry, was you that guy on the show "Kung Fu" back in the 70's?

[mhs95_06]

I don't mind platooning. Because in close games in the 5th Corbin will be gone a right hander will likely come in and Bell can pinch hit.
They don't face that many Left hand starters. But when they do it seems like they face them in bunches. I believe they only faced one the entire month of July. Bench guys need at bats from time to time.
Nobody think Senzel or Newman are great but the numbers show the one thing they do really well is hit left hand pitchers good. At least this year. It's putting guys in the best situation for them to succeed. I do agree when he plays Newman should be DH. He should never play the field in non blowout games.

If Newman is dh, where do you play Votto and CES?

[Ron Madden]

Nice Catch Fairchild !!!

[Larry Schuler]

Larry, was you that guy on the show "Kung Fu" back in the 70's?

My name is Larry.

I don’t want to hurt you.

[icehole3]

Nice catch

[Dave C]

2 weakly hit ball one a "hit" and the other a great catch.

[mhs95_06]

Last time Ashcraft tried that foot tag move he got it, this time, no, but almost. He must have thought the new bags this year are 20"!

[icehole3]

Nice job

[KeefeCato]

If Newman is dh, where do you play Votto and CES?

CES has played 3B at least once for the Reds. He can't be worse than Newman.

[icehole3]

Let's GO REDS! Let's GOOOOOO!
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[Ironman92]

Ashcraft cost himself there…he knows it. Fairchild a nice play coming in to bail him out.

Big innings often happen when one player makes a miscue and then the teammates follow suit. When your teammate makes an error you should always want the next ball to help out your teammate. Fairchild did that.

[Tom Servo]

Wow Arli$$, all the stars are here

[Patrick Bateman]

Luckily these Nats are pretty terrible. Doesn’t seem like they plan to capitalize on any
Mistakes we make.


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[NebraskaRed]

Wow Arli$$, all the stars are here

He's in Good Burger. Show some respect.

[Dave C]

Newbomb Turk interview....

[VR]

GA with a 1.53 earnie since June 30th.


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[Dave C]

Love the HR's but we only have 3 hits. Come on... let's get the offense clicking.

[Ron Madden]

Bottom 5

Tyler Stephenson grounds out, shortstop CJ Abrams to first baseman Dominic Smith. 1 out

Stuart Fairchild grounds out, second baseman Jake Alu to first baseman Dominic Smith. 2 outs

Elly De La Cruz flies out to right fielder Lane Thomas. 3 outs

CIN 3
WSH 0
After 5

[Patrick Bateman]

Luckily these Nats are pretty terrible. Doesn’t seem like they plan to capitalize on any
Mistakes we make.


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Jinx


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[Tom Servo]

hmm, no more of those Ashy

[Dave C]

Hung a slider there. This game is too close.

[TheBigLebowski]

Ghastly pitch

[TRF]

Time for....

DOOMSAYERS!

[jeff337]

Guessing Bell will come take him out now...

[bigfoot steve]

Thomas is a good player for them,
he got all of it

[Ky Fried Redleg]

This Day in Reds Baseball 63 years ago ... Anyone?

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[chrisball96]

Thomas is a good player for them,
he got all of it

He sure did, but Ashcraft hung that breaking ball right over the heart of the plate. One of the few bad pitches he’s thrown tonight and they made us pay for it.

[TRF]

69 pitches through 6 innings? Not just in the 3rd?

[bgknck44]

Guessing Bell will come take him out now...

It would be great if we got a run or two more and he could go 8. He's only at 68 pitches.

[icehole3]

Time for....

DOOMSAYERS!

Reds fans this week with the trade deadline and the Cubs games.

https://i.imgur.com/y6Clft0.gif

[mhs95_06]

CES has played 3B at least once for the Reds. He can't be worse than Newman.

I wouldn't count on that.

[bgknck44]

Before this game Ashcraft had pitched the exact same amount of innings as last year and had a higher WAR.

[NebraskaRed]

McLain is the man

[TRF]

Before this game Ashcraft had pitched the exact same amount of innings as last year and had a higher WAR.And had not had a beloved relative pass away.

Context.

[icehole3]

https://i.imgur.com/UoojEOL.gif

[TheBigLebowski]

Geez. Great hit, and Thomas has a cannon.

[Gandalf the Red]

Here we go: A chance for Newman to prove his great worth.

[bgknck44]

And had not had a beloved relative pass away.

Context.

I know, his WAR is higher this year. That's why I was surprised.

[Dave C]

It's like a Bronson Arroyo game. give up a few HR's but shut them down otherwise. Too close for comfort.

[Ron Madden]

Bottom 6

Nick Senzel grounds out, shortstop CJ Abrams to first baseman Dominic Smith. 1 out

Matt McLain doubles (21) on a sharp line drive to right fielder Lane Thomas

Spencer Steer flies out to left fielder Blake Rutherford. 2 outs

Kevin Newman flies out to center fielder Alex Call. 3 outs

CIN 3
WSH 1
End of 6

[mhs95_06]

Steer and Newman going for HRs! Too much of that lately, just a single to get that run back and keep the line moving, please.

[TRF]

I know, his WAR is higher this year. That's why I was surprised.That's.. not how that was worded though... No biggie. I misunderstood.

[TheBigLebowski]

Corbin logs a quality start. Luckily 3 of the 4 hits left the yard.

They let him and the nats hang around, and this is a close game that probably shouldn’t be.

[Dave C]

Nasty slider there by Ashy

[bgknck44]

That's.. not how that was worded though... No biggie. I misunderstood.

After re-reading I didn't make it very clear.

[icehole3]

Great pitch

[NebraskaRed]

Larkin nodding politely while Sadak talks about Freezy Freakies for 5 minutes.

[KeefeCato]

Ashcraft for 8 and Diaz for 1 would be nice.

[mhs95_06]

Don't let happen tonight what did last night when a hitter reached with 2 out!

[TheBigLebowski]

Ashcraft for 8 and Diaz for 1 would be nice.

Yup. Let’s get crazy - Ashcraft goes the distance.

Actually, just walked a guy. That’ll make the CG tough.

- - - Updated - - -

Sadak is off his chair. Maile didn’t “wear” anything. He’s a shutdown reliever.

[icehole3]

Good work Acecraft

[mth123]

Bravo Graham Ashcraft. What a starting pitcher should be!!!

[mhs95_06]

PH for Fairchild if at least one gets on for the Reds?

[CaiGuy]

Bell can be greedy here...bring him out for another inning

[icehole3]

https://i.imgur.com/LA9sUKF.gif

[NebraskaRed]

Not Votto's best day at the plate.

[Gandalf the Red]

Yup. Let’s get crazy - Ashcraft goes the distance.

Actually, just walked a guy. That’ll make the CG tough.

Just looked it up: Danny Jackson had 15 complete games in his magical 1988. I miss those days.

[Ron Madden]

Pitching Change: Amos Willingham replaces Patrick Corbin

[Ky Fried Redleg]

August 4, 1960 --- Billy, Don't Be a Hero

It's the top of the 2nd inning, 2 outs and no one on base for the Reds at Wrigley Field. The Reds lead 2-0. Reds second basemen, Billy Martin(yes, that Billy), thinking that Cubs' pitcher , Jim Brewer, is throwing at him, does his best Bert Campaneris and hurls his bat in the direction of Brewer and the mound. Brewer picks up the bat and, as Billy advances to retrieve his lumber, the two men exchange words and Billy punches Brewer with a hard overhand right that fractures the orbital bone of Brewer's right eye. The benches clear and Billy continues his onslaught, decking Chicago's Frank Thomas with another right hand. When all is said and done, Billy is ejected and Brewer is off to the hospital, where he would require surgery to repair his eye. Martin would be pinch hit for by Eddie Kasko, who would promply be struck out by Brewer's replacement, Joe Schaffernoth.

Schaffernoth would get the win that day in the Windy City, as the Cubs would rally behind Ernie Banks' 30th homerun and 3 RBIs to win 5-3, before 4,200 hearty baseball fans. Billy would be fined $500 for the punch to Brewer's eye and would serve a 5-game suspension. Brewer would require two surgeries to repair his eye and and the Cubs and Brewer would sue Billy for $1,040,000 for the loss of Brewer's services for the season. The case would later be settled out of court for $10,000. Billy would return to the Reds lineup six days later as a pinch runner. Kasko played very well at second base in Billy's absence and Billy would play very little until Kasko was injured on August 14.


As far as who started the fight, you can imagine the accounts differ depending on who you ask. Brewer claimed he was sucker-punched. According to the Cubs pitcher, he asked Martin, “Do you want to fight? Billy said, ‘No kid, I just came after the bat.’ And then he swung at me." Billy's account is not the same as Brewer's. Billy said, " I didn’t throw the bat – it just slipped out of my hands. Nothing would have started, but he said some things to me, giving me a lot of mouth, so I hit him. If he hadn’t said anything, I would have picked up the bat and gone back to the plate.”

About this fiasco at Wrigley, baseball’s oldest living ballplayer at the time, 98-year-old William Ellsworth “Dummy” Hoy, said, “The disgraceful affairs between the Cincinnati Reds and the Chicago Cubs in Chicago the other day was enough to cause Abner Doubleday and Judge Landis to turn over in their graves."

Billy was sold to the Milwaukee Braves after the season and would retire from playing after the 1961 season. And then it was on managing... and more fighting !!!



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[TheBigLebowski]

Didn’t do enough against Corbin, and we generally don’t hit bullpens. Graham + Diaz will need to make 3 runs stand.

[Tom Servo]

Josh Willingham’s son Amos, wow

[NebraskaRed]

5 game hitting streak for CES

[Kc61]

Bell can be greedy here...bring him out for another inning

I’d go with Gibaut in the eighth and Diaz in the ninth. I wouldn’t push Ashcraft any further. Those two relievers have had two days rest.

But it’s a risk either way, I understand the “stick with Ashcraft” point of view as well.

[Dave C]

CES is so under control. So quick at the end as well.

[icehole3]

Nice rip

[mth123]

Josh Willingham’s son Amos, wow

I wondered.

[jeff337]

August 4, 1960 --- Billy, Don't Be a Hero

It's the top of the 2nd inning, 2 outs and no one on base for the Reds at Wrigley Field. The Reds lead 2-0. Reds second basemen, Billy Martin(yes, that Billy), thinking that Cubs' pitcher , Jim Brewer, is throwing at him, does his best Bert Campaneris and hurls his bat in the direction of Brewer and the mound. Brewer picks up the bat and, as Billy advances to retrieve his lumber, the two men exchange words and Billy punches Brewer with a hard overhand right that fractures the orbital bone of Brewer's right eye. The benches clear and Billy continues his onslaught, decking Chicago's Frank Thomas with another right hand. When all is said and done, Billy is ejected and Brewer is off to the hospital, where he would require surgery to repair his eye. Martin would be pinch hit for by Eddie Kasko, who would promply be struck out by Brewer's replacement, Joe Schaffernoth.

Schaffernoth would get the win that day in the Windy City, as the Cubs would rally behind Ernie Banks' 30th homerun and 3 RBIs to win 5-3, before 4,200 hearty baseball fans. Billy would be fined $500 for the punch to Brewer's eye and would serve a 5-game suspension. Brewer would require two surgeries to repair his eye and and the Cubs and Brewer would sue Billy for $1,040,000 for the loss of Brewer's services for the season. The case would later be settled out of court for $10,000. Billy would return to the Reds lineup six days later as a pinch runner. Kasko played very well at second base in Billy's absence and Billy would play very little until Kasko was injured on August 14.


As far as who started the fight, you can imagine the accounts differ depending on who you ask. Brewer claimed he was sucker-punched. According to the Cubs pitcher, he asked Martin, “Do you want to fight? Billy said, ‘No kid, I just came after the bat.’ And then he swung at me." Billy's account is not the same as Brewer's. Billy said, " I didn’t throw the bat – it just slipped out of my hands. Nothing would have started, but he said some things to me, giving me a lot of mouth, so I hit him. If he hadn’t said anything, I would have picked up the bat and gone back to the plate.”

About this fiasco at Wrigley, baseball’s oldest living ballplayer at the time, 98-year-old William Ellsworth “Dummy” Hoy, said, “The disgraceful affairs between the Cincinnati Reds and the Chicago Cubs in Chicago the other day was enough to cause Abner Doubleday and Judge Landis to turn over in their graves."

Billy was sold to the Milwaukee Braves after the season and would retire from playing after the 1961 season. And then it was on managing... and more fighting !!!



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The Reds could use a Billy Martin...

[icehole3]

CES is a grown man

https://i.imgur.com/dwr3NPr.gif

[Ky Fried Redleg]

The Reds could use a Billy Martin...

Reading my mind, dude. Reading my mind... Not necessarily broken orbital bones but we needed some fire in Wrigley, man!!! We needed some red azzes.

[Dave C]

Why is Stephenson upset? If you're a .280 hitter of consequence you can grip on a perfect strike on the outside 1/3 of the plate... but he's not.

[Tom Servo]

alright give us some breathing room here Elly

[Dave C]

Reading my mind, dude. Reading my mind...

your burner account?

[KeefeCato]

Reading my mind, dude. Reading my mind...

I'll pass Martin was a racist .

[icehole3]

Stewie

[CaiGuy]

Why is Stephenson upset? If you're a .280 hitter of consequence you can grip on a perfect strike on the outside 1/3 of the plate... but he's not.

.277 career, so pretty close.

[Tom Servo]

bleh weak contact

[Ron Madden]

Bottom 7

Joey Votto grounds out, second baseman Jake Alu to first baseman Dominic Smith. 1 out

Christian Encarnacion-Strand singles on a ground ball to center fielder Alex Call

Pinch-runner Will Benson replaces Christian Encarnacion-Strand

Tyler Stephenson called out on strikes. 2 outs

Stuart Fairchild singles on a ground ball to left fielder Blake Rutherford. Will Benson to 2nd

Elly De La Cruz grounds out, second baseman Jake Alu to first baseman Dominic Smith. 3 outs

CIN 3
WSH 1
After 7

[CaiGuy]

Elly still has peers...for now.

[villain612]

Pirates up on the Brews 3-0 in the first.

[Ky Fried Redleg]

your burner account?

Don't even know what that means. Inform me.

[Ron Madden]

Will Benson remains in the game as the left fielder.

Defensive switch from left field to first base for Spencer Steer.

[TheBigLebowski]

Pirates up on the Brews 3-0 in the first.

That’s a nice shot of excitement.

This game is blah, and I have this feeling of uneasiness about it.

[CaiGuy]

Stu is an MLB player...change my mind .

[jeff337]

I'll pass Martin was a racist .

I'm guessing you voted for Biden 5 times in 2020...

[VR]

Barrero with a 3 run jack, Stoudt pitching well down in LOU


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[Kc61]

Stu is an MLB player...change my mind .

When Reds go to 14 position players (and pitchers) in September, if India is back, Stu will get the call for that extra spot. No doubt, and he should.

I guess it could be Casali but I’ll go with Stu.

[CaiGuy]

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I feel like there is a team out there willing to take a shot on Barrero's upside.

[TRF]

I'm guessing you voted for Biden 5 times in 2020...Billy Martin actually was a racist.

Politics is another forum.

[Patrick Bateman]

I feel like there is a team out there willing to take a shot on Barrero's upside.

If not he can just have Senzels role next year.


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[NebraskaRed]

I'm guessing you voted for Biden 5 times in 2020...

https://media.giphy.com/media/cOmGhBSFUq6lr8nSUO/giphy.gif

[Tom Servo]

ugh Ashcraft and Stephenson couldn’t tell who was fielding it

[OldFashionedRed]

Will Bell allow Ashcraft to go the distance? The bullpen really needs a rest.

[Tom Servo]

Will Bell allow Ashcraft to go the distance? The bullpen really needs a rest.
It’s gotta be Diaz in the 9th.

Please don’t let that little nubber haunt tho

[mhs95_06]

If Ashcraft hits him in the back with the throw, they may call an out for running out of the lane.

[villain612]

I'm guessing you voted for Biden 5 times in 2020...

In baseball and in life, some people can't take an L.

[KeefeCato]

Will Bell allow Ashcraft to go the distance? The bullpen really needs a rest.

No. Diaz will pitch the 9th. He hasn't pitched in 4 days.