2023 Ohio State Buckeyes Football

[*BaseClogger*]

There were a number of plays today where there was an edge, but Williams and/or Trayanum couldn't get there. Neither guy has the speed. Yes, PSU has a good defense, but I think there were some plays to make of Henderson had been back there


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I don’t disagree with that. Williams in particular is noticeably slower in space. But those two also pushed the pile forward several times. Henderson doesn’t do that. I think it mostly nets out.

[Roy Tucker]

Seems the Buckeyes stopped trying to hit the seam routes that Stroud and Fields were so good at. But that takes an elite QB to make that throw and McCord isn’t quite that.

[Roy Tucker]

And I thought Penn State’s offense was shockingly bad. I know that Buckeye defense had something to do with that, but the PSU offense looked *bad*.

[Hillsdale87]

Seems the Buckeyes stopped trying to hit the seam routes that Stroud and Fields were so good at. But that takes an elite QB to make that throw and McCord isn’t quite that.

They had a few open today and McCord just missed them. He had Tate open by about 2 steps in the first half past midfield and wasn't even close. A good throw and that's probably a TD. He's just consistently off. He can't throw with timing.

Marv had a big game today, but it felt like half his catches were made reaching back for the ball. His last 2 crossing routes were big gains, but both passes were quite a bit behind him, even though they were shallow routes. Fortunately the play designs were great and he still had a lot of room to run.

I know Quinn Ewers is probably fine with his decision, but he'd put up crazy numbers at OSU


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[BuckeyeRed27]

I love this team man. Just having that defense is so much fun. I know everyone loves 45 points and the offense still needs to keep improving, but they are going to be in any game against anyone with that D.

Shoe was absolutely rocking this afternoon too. Not sure how it came across on TV, but there’s always a lot of talk about noon game atmospheres and this one was as good as any game I’ve been too.

[BuckeyeRed27]

And I thought Penn State’s offense was shockingly bad. I know that Buckeye defense had something to do with that, but the PSU offense looked *bad*.

Allar was lost. I watched him a lot coming off the field today talking to the coaches and he was seeing ghosts. I don’t think Penn St has an elite offense by any stretch but I think they looked so bad more because of the OSU D than their own issues.

[Hillsdale87]

I love this team man. Just having that defense is so much fun. I know everyone loves 45 points and the offense still needs to keep improving, but they are going to be in any game against anyone with that D.

Shoe was absolutely rocking this afternoon too. Not sure how it came across on TV, but there’s always a lot of talk about noon game atmospheres and this one was as good as any game I’ve been too.

I prefer an offensive team, but I can enjoy a defensive led team. However, the offense needs to give them something if they're going to play with Georgia and Michigan.

This feels like the 2002 team, but with better weapons and a worse QB. And as much as I love Krenzel, it's a complete instructional failure that I'm watching OSU and wishing we had somebody as good as Craig Krenzel behind center.


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[LiferJim]

I love this team man. Just having that defense is so much fun. I know everyone loves 45 points and the offense still needs to keep improving, but they are going to be in any game against anyone with that D.

Shoe was absolutely rocking this afternoon too. Not sure how it came across on TV, but there’s always a lot of talk about noon game atmospheres and this one was as good as any game I’ve been too.

I’m with you. I’ll take a mediocre offense with a great defense any day of the week!! Great defenses allows show up, but great offenses sometimes still have bad games…


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[BuckeyeRed27]

I prefer an offensive team, but I can enjoy a defensive led team. However, the offense needs to give them something if they're going to play with Georgia and Michigan.

This feels like the 2002 team, but with better weapons and a worse QB. And as much as I love Krenzel, it's a complete instructional failure that I'm watching OSU and wishing we had somebody as good as Craig Krenzel behind center.


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This team will beat both of those teams. McCord is significantly better than Kreznel and played a very solid game today. He’s not perfect and he missed a couple throws but I’m pretty sick of this crap. He’s having a great season for a first year starter.

[*BaseClogger*]

Shoe seemed really loud on TV. I kept expecting the announcers to comment on it.

McCord missed a lot of passes today. Got lucky the fumble was called back. He did not have a good game.

[RedTeamGo!]

I love this team man. Just having that defense is so much fun. I know everyone loves 45 points and the offense still needs to keep improving, but they are going to be in any game against anyone with that D.

Shoe was absolutely rocking this afternoon too. Not sure how it came across on TV, but there’s always a lot of talk about noon game atmospheres and this one was as good as any game I’ve been too.

I love everything about the team but the QB and Day’s playcalling on short yardage. The OL is also shaky, but McCord looked like crap today.

[LiferJim]

Shoe seemed really loud on TV. I kept expecting the announcers to comment on it.

McCord missed a lot of passes today. Got lucky the fumble was called back. He did not have a good game.

But he wasn’t terrible either. 22 of 35 for 286 yards with a Touchdown and no interceptions ain’t that bad. Running was the problem. 41 carries for 79 yards is what was bad. Harder to throw when you can’t run the ball


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[GAC]

I actually think they've been pretty good today. Run game misses Henderson


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1.9 yards per carry yesterday. I agree they miss Harrison. Both of these teams possess top defenses in the country. And they showed it yesterday. I just get tired of seeing teams keep running the ball off-tackle, off-tackle, off-tackle, and not getting anywhere (lol). Both of these team's offenses were pretty predictable yesterday.

[GAC]

I prefer an offensive team, but I can enjoy a defensive led team. However, the offense needs to give them something if they're going to play with Georgia and Michigan.

I was listening to a couple announcers yesterday critiquing the OSU-PSU game and say "Neither one of these teams will get past Michigan." Who has Michigan played? They have a very weak schedule, nobody ranked or even within spitting distance of the top 25, until the end of the season when they face PSU and then OSU.

[GAC]

LOL

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[BuckeyeRed27]

I love everything about the team but the QB and Day’s playcalling on short yardage. The OL is also shaky, but McCord looked like crap today.

If McCord looked like crap today OSU is in great shape.

He missed a couple things for sure. Still made great decisions, taking care of the ball and is great at putting the ball in the general vicinity of the best player in college football. The rest is coming along.

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Shoe seemed really loud on TV. I kept expecting the announcers to comment on it.

McCord missed a lot of passes today. Got lucky the fumble was called back. He did not have a good game.

He was kinda lucky, but that was a blatant penalty on his first read. If the Penn St guy didn’t hold he would have thrown a TD so.

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I was listening to a couple announcers yesterday critiquing the OSU-PSU game and say "Neither one of these teams will get past Michigan." Who has Michigan played? They have a very weak schedule, nobody ranked or even within spitting distance of the top 25, until the end of the season when they face PSU and then OSU.

I think they both beat Michigan.

[moewan]

LOL

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Don't have a dog in this fight, I'm a lowly Bearcat. But living up here in Ann Arbor, that's damn funny.

[WVRed]

I was listening to a couple announcers yesterday critiquing the OSU-PSU game and say "Neither one of these teams will get past Michigan." Who has Michigan played? They have a very weak schedule, nobody ranked or even within spitting distance of the top 25, until the end of the season when they face PSU and then OSU.Correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't that the same argument last year? And that game was in Columbus with CJ Stroud.

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[RedTeamGo!]

Correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't that the same argument last year? And that game was in Columbus with CJ Stroud.

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What argument? He’s just saying UM won’t play anyone until they play PSU and OSU. He’s right.

[Hillsdale87]

But he wasn’t terrible either. 22 of 35 for 286 yards with a Touchdown and no interceptions ain’t that bad. Running was the problem. 41 carries for 79 yards is what was bad. Harder to throw when you can’t run the ball


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Ohio State couldn't run the ball last year and Stroud put up 41 on Georgia... I know that's an unfair standard, but McCord is getting the minimum out of his weapons. Yes it helps to be able to run the ball, but it's not like McCord was facing pressure all day because PSU was keying on the pass. McCord's stat line is juicedby the fact that he has an elite offensive coach and everyone he's throwing too is a future top 3 round pick or better.

Of the 22 completions and 286 yards, how many do you think were because of McCord? He plays in possibly the most QB-friendly scheme in college football. He made a very good pass to Tate in the first half, and the seam route to Stover was a good throw and incredible catch. Other than that, too many throws were like the picture below. This is on the game sealing TD. The pass is about 8 air yards to a wide open receiver and way behind him. Fortunately Marv is a freak.

McCord looks like he's playing not to make a mistake instead of playing instinctive and loose. Too often it looks to me like he's aiming the ball instead of throwing it. I have nothing against McCord. I hope he figures it out because I want OSU to be great.


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[Assembly Hall]

Harrison is a beast. Always good when you get your best playmaker the ball.

[LiferJim]

Ohio State couldn't run the ball last year and Stroud put up 41 on Georgia... I know that's an unfair standard, but McCord is getting the minimum out of his weapons. Yes it helps to be able to run the ball, but it's not like McCord was facing pressure all day because PSU was keying on the pass. McCord's stat line is juicedby the fact that he has an elite offensive coach and everyone he's throwing too is a future top 3 round pick or better.

Of the 22 completions and 286 yards, how many do you think were because of McCord? He plays in possibly the most QB-friendly scheme in college football. He made a very good pass to Tate in the first half, and the seam route to Stover was a good throw and incredible catch. Other than that, too many throws were like the picture below. This is on the game sealing TD. The pass is about 8 air yards to a wide open receiver and way behind him. Fortunately Marv is a freak.

McCord looks like he's playing not to make a mistake instead of playing instinctive and loose. Too often it looks to me like he's aiming the ball instead of throwing it. I have nothing against McCord. I hope he figures it out because I want OSU to be great.


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I would have to look at the stats but it seems to me we ran the ball much better last year. When a defense knows you can’t run the ball, then they adjust to defend the pass better. I realize he made some bad throws, but let’s not forget he is 7-0, while beating Notre Dame and Penn State.

I agree that he does seem to be aiming the ball and hopefully that improves quickly.

Honestly, the o line needs to improve on run blocking. With our defense, if we could run the ball that’s a recipe for big wins going forward

I realize that everyone likes to see high, flying offenses, but I just like wins no matter how they happen


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[WVRed]

What argument? He’s just saying UM won’t play anyone until they play PSU and OSU. He’s right.GAC isn't wrong but the same thing was said last year about Michigan before they played Ohio State. I think Penn State vs Michigan was earlier in the year last year.

I don't see how Michigan pretty much bringing everyone back and Ohio State replacing Stroud with McCord and it being at Michigan and expecting different results.



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[BuckeyeRed27]

GAC isn't wrong but the same thing was said last year about Michigan before they played Ohio State. I think Penn State vs Michigan was earlier in the year last year.

I don't see how Michigan pretty much bringing everyone back and Ohio State replacing Stroud with McCord and it being at Michigan and expecting different results.



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Ohio State was better than Michigan last year, they lost a weird game.
Michigan didn’t bring back everyone particularly on defense and half their OL is transfer portal guys.
OSUs defense is massively improved in year 2 under Knowles, it’s night and day.
Michigan not playing anyone might not matter, but it doesn’t help prep them for a very difficult finish against teams that will be much more prepared.
Presumably they won’t be able to cheat and know what the other team is doing before they do it.

[Hillsdale87]

I would have to look at the stats but it seems to me we ran the ball much better last year. When a defense knows you can’t run the ball, then they adjust to defend the pass better. I realize he made some bad throws, but let’s not forget he is 7-0, while beating Notre Dame and Penn State.

I agree that he does seem to be aiming the ball and hopefully that improves quickly.

Honestly, the o line needs to improve on run blocking. With our defense, if we could run the ball that’s a recipe for big wins going forward

I realize that everyone likes to see high, flying offenses, but I just like wins no matter how they happen


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We did run it better last year, but it was an issue the whole season. In the PSU game last year, Henderson broke off a big TD, but other than that it was a mess. Stroud had a great game and the passing game took over in the 4th quarter.

It would be great to have an awesome running game, but that was never likely to be the case this year. However, they have by far the best receiving corps in college football, but their passing game is way too hot and cold. That's a problem.


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[BuckeyeRed27]

We did run it better last year, but it was an issue the whole season. In the PSU game last year, Henderson broke off a big TD, but other than that it was a mess. Stroud had a great game and the passing game took over in the 4th quarter.

It would be great to have an awesome running game, but that was never likely to be the case this year. However, they have by far the best receiving corps in college football, but their passing game is way too hot and cold. That's a problem.


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7-0 with the best resume in the sport. It’s not that much of a problem.

[GAC]

GAC isn't wrong but the same thing was said last year about Michigan before they played Ohio State. I think Penn State vs Michigan was earlier in the year last year.

I don't see how Michigan pretty much bringing everyone back and Ohio State replacing Stroud with McCord and it being at Michigan and expecting different results.

I agree. I don't have a good feeling about THE game. And it's not just the QB, but a young O-line, protecting him, and our difficulty running the ball. 10th in the B10 in rushing. Individual leaders - Trayanum is 21st (257 total yards). That's not Ohio State.

My mentioning Michigan's weak SoS was not to hype OSU, but how hard it is to get a true grasp on how good/bad Michigan is. But it doesn't matter how good/bad Michigan or Ohio State is, and you can throw out the records too. It will be a game.

[LiferJim]

We did run it better last year, but it was an issue the whole season. In the PSU game last year, Henderson broke off a big TD, but other than that it was a mess. Stroud had a great game and the passing game took over in the 4th quarter.

It would be great to have an awesome running game, but that was never likely to be the case this year. However, they have by far the best receiving corps in college football, but their passing game is way too hot and cold. That's a problem.


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We also threw the ball great last year and you see where that got us. I am a big proponent of being about to run the ball. We all know if you can run the football it does several things. It opens up the passing game, wears out the opponents defense, keeps your defense off the field, and helps you dominate time of possession. IMO, if anything needs fixed it’s the offensive line!


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[Hillsdale87]

Question for OSU fans about the potential cheating situation at Michigan... If you could pick, would you rather have had OSU beat Michigan each of the last 2 years, or have Michigan win both games, have their fans finally stick their chests out for the first time in 20 years, and then have it all come crumbling down with vacated wins? I don't know if the second scenario would happen, but it would be incredible comedy.

[*BaseClogger*]

I'm open to critiquing the offensive line's run blocking but pass protection has been strong. One of the sacks on Saturday was on Trayanum, not the line.

[Hillsdale87]

We also threw the ball great last year and you see where that got us. I am a big proponent of being about to run the ball. We all know if you can run the football it does several things. It opens up the passing game, wears out the opponents defense, keeps your defense off the field, and helps you dominate time of possession. IMO, if anything needs fixed it’s the offensive line!


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Throwing the ball last year got OSU to within a FG attempt of winning the national championship. And if Marv hadn't gotten knocked out, throwing the ball would have won them the national championship. Running the ball is nice, but nothing is as important as being able to throw effectively. The last 7 national championships have been won by teams with stars at QB. Even though Stetson Bennett wasn't a first round pick, he was a top tier college QB.

[Danny Serafini]

Question for OSU fans about the potential cheating situation at Michigan... If you could pick, would you rather have had OSU beat Michigan each of the last 2 years, or have Michigan win both games, have their fans finally stick their chests out for the first time in 20 years, and then have it all come crumbling down with vacated wins? I don't know if the second scenario would happen, but it would be incredible comedy.

Just beat them and make them feel bad their cheating didn't work

[LiferJim]

Throwing the ball last year got OSU to within a FG attempt of winning the national championship. And if Marv hadn't gotten knocked out, throwing the ball would have won them the national championship. Running the ball is nice, but nothing is as important as being able to throw effectively. The last 7 national championships have been won by teams with stars at QB. Even though Stetson Bennett wasn't a first round pick, he was a top tier college QB.

All I'm saying is you can throw more effectively if you can run the ball. And yes you can win it all win a great defense and a strong running game. Lets also not forget that some of these past National Champions could run the ball, which helped their star quarterbacks tremendously. Georgia averaged 6.5 yards per rushing attempt against us last year. I don't think Bennett would have had nearly as good of a game as he did, had they not ran the ball so effectively.

A great defense allows you the opportunity to run the ball and win games 24-14, instead of 42-41. I understand you have to throw the ball well at some point, but that's certainly not the only formula for winning.

[RedTeamGo!]

We also threw the ball great last year and you see where that got us.


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A missed FG away from winning the national championship?

They lost to Michigan because of some horrible busted coverages and missed tackles on defense.

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Question for OSU fans about the potential cheating situation at Michigan... If you could pick, would you rather have had OSU beat Michigan each of the last 2 years, or have Michigan win both games, have their fans finally stick their chests out for the first time in 20 years, and then have it all come crumbling down with vacated wins? I don't know if the second scenario would happen, but it would be incredible comedy.

I think the 2nd scenario would be absolutely hilarious, not gonna lie.

Watching this unfold has been high comedy.

[LiferJim]

A missed FG away from winning the national championship?

They lost to Michigan because of some horrible busted coverages and missed tackles on defense.

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I think the 2nd scenario would be absolutely hilarious, not gonna lie.

Watching this unfold has been high comedy.

Yes, and had we been able to run the ball effectively, we probably would’ve won that game easily


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[Hillsdale87]

Yes, and had we been able to run the ball effectively, we probably would’ve won that game easily


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If Ohio State had spent more time running the ball and less time throwing it they would not have scored 41 points. Yes, it would be better to run well than run poorly. But when you go up against real defenses, you need to be able to be explosive. Look at Michigan 2 years ago... Crushed a soft OSU defense by running the ball. Then went to play Georgia and got sat on.

Saban used to center his offense around game manager QBs, a strong running game, and a great defense. There's a reason he's not doing that anymore. It's not a coincidence that when Kirby Smart finally opened up his offense, they started winning national championships. The running game is not irrelevant, but it is so much less significant than passing.


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[GAC]

A lot of "IFs" being thrown out about last year's game makes me think of "Yeah, and IF a frog had wings he wouldn't bump his ass every time he hopped!"

I personally think Day simply got out-coached.

[BuckeyeRed27]

A lot of "IFs" being thrown out about last year's game makes me think of "Yeah, and IF a frog had wings he wouldn't bump his ass every time he hopped!"

I personally think Day simply got out-coached.

Easy to get out coached when the other coaches know your plays.

[Assembly Hall]

Letdown for the Bucks coming? Big game for tOSU.

[RedTeamGo!]

Letdown for the Bucks coming? Big game for tOSU.

haha you crack me up

[WVRed]

Letdown for the Bucks coming? Big game for tOSU.Maybe in a couple years when Fickell gets Wisconsin where they need to be but not Saturday.

Ohio State should win pretty easily.

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[Assembly Hall]

Maybe in a couple years when Fickell gets Wisconsin where they need to be but not Saturday.

Ohio State should win pretty easily.

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I think a blowout gives the Bucks some more cred.

[GAC]

Fickell has a tall task before him. They just barely got by a really bad Illinois team last week.

[Roy Tucker]

Surprised it’s not a full house at Camp Randall.

[Hillsdale87]

This team is just not fun to watch


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[Hillsdale87]

OSU is one of the only teams with a full time special teams coach, and their special teams are terrible


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[mhs95_06]

Surprised it’s not a full house at Camp Randall.

Dynamic pricing trying to price them to get 90% attendance!

Two fumbles, one for each team, one inconsequential(on 4th down when QB was already sacked) and one very consequential(2nd and 5 two plays later)!

[Roy Tucker]

Ugh. Dumb throw.

[Hillsdale87]

This is the worst quarterbacking we've seen since Joe Bauserman


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[Mutaman]

Surprised it’s not a full house at Camp Randall.

No alcohol sold at Camp Randall. On Saturday night in Madison getting drunk is always the #1 priority.

[Roy Tucker]

Better playing by McCord. Just take the easier throws and let your team talent help you.

[Hillsdale87]

Knowles has this defense playing so we'll. They're all over the place and consistently confusing the offense


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[Roy Tucker]

Aaahhhhh. McCord is playing tentatively.

[Hillsdale87]

Aaahhhhh. McCord is playing tentatively.

He's hopeless. And it's going to kill the season. I don't think he can read the field and throw with anticipation. I don't think that's something he's going to get better at. OSU needs a new answer next year


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[Roy Tucker]

More ugh.

[*BaseClogger*]

Both teams are banged up. Buckeyes are letting an inferior opponent hang around which is dangerous at Camp Randall.

Buckeyes have a mediocre QB and mediocre offensive line. Every other position group is among the best in the country.

[Hillsdale87]

For those who wondered how big of an impact not having Henderson was on the run game the last few weeks... It's pretty clear


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[*BaseClogger*]

For those who wondered how big of an impact not having Henderson was on the run game the last few weeks... It's pretty clear


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Think I’m convinced. He can pop those counter plays in a way the others can’t and that’s their best run scheme.

[kaldaniels]

UW could still steal this one but thanks to the D and the run game netting positive yards it sure feels like OSU is in control.

Time to just find a way to get the hell out of Dodge.

[Roy Tucker]

Buckeyes get the ball back at midfield with 7-ish minutes left in the 4th. I’d like to see a scoring drive here. Not comfortable with just a 7 point lead.

[Hillsdale87]

Think I’m convinced. He can pop those counter plays in a way the others can’t and that’s their best run scheme.

He hits the holes at a different speed. He's fun to watch when he hits the second level


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[Roy Tucker]

Boom. Good run by Henderson for the TD. 24-10 Bucks.

[Roy Tucker]

Pretty decent game by the Buckeyes. Good to see the run game and in particular Henderson show well. Defense played its now-normal good game. McCord had a tough night but luckily the Buckeyes don’t have to rely on him. Still leery about playing TTUN.

[RedTeamGo!]

The defense is absolutely for real

[kaldaniels]

14 point win at Camp Randal a week after the PSU game and all the UM stuff the past several days.

You take that every time. Classic trap game in a very unfriendly place.

[GAC]

14 point win at Camp Randal a week after the PSU game and all the UM stuff the past several days.

You take that every time. Classic trap game in a very unfriendly place.

You're right; but I'm still skeptical of this OSU when it comes to THE game. But then I keep telling myself - Who has Michigan played? They've been clobbering some really inferior, unranked, talent. And next week they have 2-6 Purdue. Just hard to gauge. Just don't listen to all those media sages who have already crowned them national champions (lol).

But then OSU finishes off with "powerhouses" Rutgers, Michigan State, and Minnesota, before facing off with Michigan.

But THE game will always be A game, regardless of records. If OSU can get the run game going they have a strong shot IMO.

[LiferJim]

You're right; but I'm still skeptical of this OSU when it comes to THE game. But then I keep telling myself - Who has Michigan played? They've been clobbering some really inferior, unranked, talent. And next week they have 2-6 Purdue. Just hard to gauge. Just don't listen to all those media sages who have already crowned them national champions (lol).

But then OSU finishes off with "powerhouses" Rutgers, Michogan State, and Minnesota, before facing off with Michigan.

But THE game will always be A game, regardless of records. If OSU can get the run game going they have a strong shot IMO.

I’m with you. Henderson makes a huge difference and the defense shows up every game. Those two things keep me very optimistic about The Game!!


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[BuckeyeRed27]

That was the first real bad game from McCord. He did a bunch of stuff you can’t do. That’s a game most teams in OSUs spot loose and it was a fairly comfortable win they weren’t ever really at risk of losing, so that’s nice.

Great to see Henderson back. Dude is just electric when healthy. Hope he stays that way for the rest of the year.

Marv should win the Heisman. He’s the best player and it’s not close.

[RedTeamGo!]

I do not think McCord is a bad QB, however, I certainly do not think he is a good or great QB. He is decent. With that said, I do not think OSU can beat Georgia with him. Perhaps not Oregon or Washington either. Michigan, maybe, but that is mostly because I do not have any idea how good Michigan truly is this year as their schedule is such a joke.

I think OSU can win a national championship this year, however, it will have to be elite play by the defense as the reason, which I do think they are capable of, but will be VERY difficult. Very little margin of error.

With this season it is what it is at QB, I am curious what happens this offseason. I do not think Day will go into 2024 with McCord if he can improve the position. If he can go out and get a Drake Maye or other top flight QB transfer, I think he does it. Who knows, maybe Lincoln Kleinholz shows up next 20 lbs of muscle heavier and he forces Day's hand. If you go into 2024 with McCord at QB again all these elite WR recruits are going to start taking notice.

My biggest issue with McCord is some of the absolutely horrendous decisions he makes with the ball in his hands. Lot of intentional groundings, lots of very questionable passes. That INT in the end zone on the sideline, what was that?

[Hillsdale87]

I do not think McCord is a bad QB, however, I certainly do not think he is a good or great QB. He is decent. With that said, I do not think OSU can beat Georgia with him. Perhaps not Oregon or Washington either. Michigan, maybe, but that is mostly because I do not have any idea how good Michigan truly is this year as their schedule is such a joke.

I think OSU can win a national championship this year, however, it will have to be elite play by the defense as the reason, which I do think they are capable of, but will be VERY difficult. Very little margin of error.

With this season it is what it is at QB, I am curious what happens this offseason. I do not think Day will go into 2024 with McCord if he can improve the position. If he can go out and get a Drake Maye or other top flight QB transfer, I think he does it. Who knows, maybe Lincoln Kleinholz shows up next 20 lbs of muscle heavier and he forces Day's hand. If you go into 2024 with McCord at QB again all these elite WR recruits are going to start taking notice.

My biggest issue with McCord is some of the absolutely horrendous decisions he makes with the ball in his hands. Lot of intentional groundings, lots of very questionable passes. That INT in the end zone on the sideline, what was that?

Usually you're way more down on guys than me, but I think McCord is actually bad. OSU doesn't need a superstar to win a national championship, but they do need somebody who can hit layups. And McCord can't do that consistently. The first halves of the Maryland, PSU, and Wisconsin games were ugly. He was better in the second half each game, but you can't give away a half every week.

I'm actually less worried about the decision making. I think something like that can be fixed with time and experience. Consistently missing spots to open receivers doesn't seem like something that's going to get better. I don't know how long Devin Brown is out with his ankle, but IMO they have to at least consider seeing what he can do when he's back.


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[BuckeyeRed27]

I do not think McCord is a bad QB, however, I certainly do not think he is a good or great QB. He is decent. With that said, I do not think OSU can beat Georgia with him. Perhaps not Oregon or Washington either. Michigan, maybe, but that is mostly because I do not have any idea how good Michigan truly is this year as their schedule is such a joke.

I think OSU can win a national championship this year, however, it will have to be elite play by the defense as the reason, which I do think they are capable of, but will be VERY difficult. Very little margin of error.

With this season it is what it is at QB, I am curious what happens this offseason. I do not think Day will go into 2024 with McCord if he can improve the position. If he can go out and get a Drake Maye or other top flight QB transfer, I think he does it. Who knows, maybe Lincoln Kleinholz shows up next 20 lbs of muscle heavier and he forces Day's hand. If you go into 2024 with McCord at QB again all these elite WR recruits are going to start taking notice.

My biggest issue with McCord is some of the absolutely horrendous decisions he makes with the ball in his hands. Lot of intentional groundings, lots of very questionable passes. That INT in the end zone on the sideline, what was that?

OSU can absolutely beat anyone because of the defense. Improved QB play takes it from a question mark to completely obvious. But I don’t think anyone can beat OSU if they don’t beat themselves. McCord can’t do what he did against Wisconsin, but if he at least does what he did in the other 7 games it’s fine. He still makes some really great throws and generally has made good decisions. Getting EE back is also not a small thing. He needs the weapons, but he does seem pretty good at using them.

[*BaseClogger*]

McCord has a good arm but his footwork is horrible.

[BuckeyeRed27]

McCord has a good arm but his footwork is horrible.

Sometimes it is. He definitely has inconsistent mechanics. Most QBs have the problem of not looking downfield and missing things. He kinda has the opposite problem. He sometimes looks downfield too long or doesn’t come off his first option fast enough and then is rushing or misses a better option. But it’s also why he makes a number of nice throws and big plays.

[Roy Tucker]

The problem is, after Fields and Stroud, the bar for an OSU quarterback is set very high.

McCord can’t consistently make the elite QB throws. He just isn’t at that level. He can only hit guys that are plainly open. He can’t throw guys open. But I’ll take his level of play if he avoids dumb throws and does better ball security. He usually has 2-3 plays a game where I just wince and hope we keep the ball.

[BuckeyeRed27]

The problem is, after Fields and Stroud, the bar for an OSU quarterback is set very high.

McCord can’t consistently make the elite QB throws. He just isn’t at that level. He can only hit guys that are plainly open. He can’t throw guys open. But I’ll take his level of play if he avoids dumb throws and does better ball security. He usually has 2-3 plays a game where I just wince and hope we keep the ball.

Totally agree on the ridiculous standard he has. I think he’s generally been solid, but he’s not first round draft pick good.

I actually disagree on the types of passes he makes though. He’s making elite level throws into coverages a lot. Some of the big passes of the season like the EE throw against ND, the Stover catch against Penn St and the Marv TD against Wisconsin were all big time throws into coverage. His problem is missing some of the easy throws. Maybe he loses focus and doesn’t keep his mechanical or something, but if he got like 50% better on just his pitch and catch and check down stuff and keeping the offense on schedule more the team becomes pretty unbeatable.

[*BaseClogger*]

Sometimes it is. He definitely has inconsistent mechanics. Most QBs have the problem of not looking downfield and missing things. He kinda has the opposite problem. He sometimes looks downfield too long or doesn’t come off his first option fast enough and then is rushing or misses a better option. But it’s also why he makes a number of nice throws and big plays.

It's a pocket presence thing. If he had better feel for the rush he'd have more time to stay locked-in downfield and make his reads. But his movement in the pocket is awkward if not non-existent.


Totally agree on the ridiculous standard he has. I think he’s generally been solid, but he’s not first round draft pick good.

I actually disagree on the types of passes he makes though. He’s making elite level throws into coverages a lot. Some of the big passes of the season like the EE throw against ND, the Stover catch against Penn St and the Marv TD against Wisconsin were all big time throws into coverage. His problem is missing some of the easy throws. Maybe he loses focus and doesn’t keep his mechanical or something, but if he got like 50% better on just his pitch and catch and check down stuff and keeping the offense on schedule more the team becomes pretty unbeatable.

Yeah, he doesn't "throw guys open" often but he also can "make all the throws", if that makes sense.

Good call on the easy stuff. Combining that and better ball security should be enough to get this team to the National Championship.

[Hillsdale87]

Totally agree on the ridiculous standard he has. I think he’s generally been solid, but he’s not first round draft pick good.

I actually disagree on the types of passes he makes though. He’s making elite level throws into coverages a lot. Some of the big passes of the season like the EE throw against ND, the Stover catch against Penn St and the Marv TD against Wisconsin were all big time throws into coverage. His problem is missing some of the easy throws. Maybe he loses focus and doesn’t keep his mechanical or something, but if he got like 50% better on just his pitch and catch and check down stuff and keeping the offense on schedule more the team becomes pretty unbeatable.

I don't know about "a lot". He's made a few good throws this year, but he does seem better when he doesn't have to think as much and rips it.

I don't think he loses focus. I think he focuses too much. He looks like he's thinking about 100 different things and then plays so tentative. He's not playing instinctively. Every throw looks like he's aiming it. I wish he'd be more willing to make mistakes. You have elite receivers and an elite defense. Go take some risks! Have fun! Can't have terrible red zone INTs like against Wisconsin, but I just want him to loosen up. He was a 5* for a reason, but he's playing with the mentality of. 3*


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[BuckeyeRed27]

I don't know about "a lot". He's made a few good throws this year, but he does seem better when he doesn't have to think as much and rips it.

I don't think he loses focus. I think he focuses too much. He looks like he's thinking about 100 different things and then plays so tentative. He's not playing instinctively. Every throw looks like he's aiming it. I wish he'd be more willing to make mistakes. You have elite receivers and an elite defense. Go take some risks! Have fun! Can't have terrible red zone INTs like against Wisconsin, but I just want him to loosen up. He was a 5* for a reason, but he's playing with the mentality of. 3*


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https://www.elevenwarriors.com/ohio-state-football/2023/10/142292/breaking-down-kyle-mccord-s-passing-chart-from-ohio-states-win-at-wisconsin

11W has been doing a good weekly article like this one tracking McCord. The example they use on the missed comeback to Marv is the pass he has to make. There are examples like that every week and it’s not a lot, it’s 3-5 throws a game. But if he makes those everything becomes easier for this offense.

I don’t want to get into a semantics argument on the definition of “a lot” but those types of throws aren’t my concern and I’m generally confident he can push it down the field and he’s certainly made more than “a few” good throws.

[RedTeamGo!]

Has McCord made one long playaction TD pass where the WR wasn’t near a defender? Seemed like Stroud and Fields had at least one every game they played. McCord seems more reliant on the WR talent.

[Hillsdale87]

Parker Fleming needs to be fired. One of the only full time special teams coaches in college football, and OSU's special teams are terrible. It's an issue every game


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[Roy Tucker]

My rational side was saying take the 18.5 points and pick Rutgers but my emotional side said pick the Buckeyes.

[GAC]

My rational side was saying take the 18.5 points and pick Rutgers but my emotional side said pick the Buckeyes.

And that makes sense. I approached it the same because in 9 tries OSU has kicked the crap out of Rutgers every time. There better be some solid halftime adjusments (lol).

[RedTeamGo!]

McCord is absolutely horrible

They absolutely must get a transfer QB this offseason.

[Hillsdale87]

I don't expect Day to do it, but would love to see what Devin Brown can do


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[Phoenix2]

I've been wondering when the clock will strike midnight. Such a weak half. Pulling for solid halftime adjustments.

[RedTeamGo!]

I don't expect Day to do it, but would love to see what Devin Brown can do


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Brown is out injured

[Hillsdale87]

Brown is out injured

I thought he was back this week. He went through warmups and supposedly looked fine


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[RedTeamGo!]

I thought he was back this week. He went through warmups and supposedly looked fine


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Oh I assumed he was still hurt. Yeah, I’d put Brown in.

[Hillsdale87]

Huge play by Proctor and Hancock. Now need the DL and LBs to firm up against the run


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[kaldaniels]

Running the ball and a great D can take you places.

Now clean up the rest of the mess.

[RedTeamGo!]

Can’t defend a pass much better than that. Great catch by the Rutgers WR in the EZ.

[BuckeyeRed27]

I love coming to read this thread after the game haha

If you watch this team like you are watching an NFL game and not the score 50 point give up 30 point OSU teams the last few years, I promise you’ll enjoy it more because that’s what it is.

McCord was incredibly solid today. Come in here and people want to bench him. Ok sure. He just set the school record for completions to start the game, kept everything in front of him, made one bad pass and had some bad drops on well thrown balls, that made that second quarter get real ugly.

Defense was solid but a little off. Think it showed how valuable Ransom is. Knowles seemed hesitant to send pressure. Hopefully not too banged up, but now have Ransom, Proctor, Burke and maybe Eichenberg with some question marks.

Another incredible Henderson performance. Remember when all we could talk about is how we couldn’t run the ball?

[RedTeamGo!]

I love coming to read this thread after the game haha

If you watch this team like you are watching an NFL game and not the score 50 point give up 30 point OSU teams the last few years, I promise you’ll enjoy it more because that’s what it is.

McCord was incredibly solid today. Come in here and people want to bench him. Ok sure. He just set the school record for completions to start the game, kept everything in front of him, made one bad pass and had some bad drops on well thrown balls, that made that second quarter get real ugly.

Defense was solid but a little off. Think it showed how valuable Ransom is. Knowles seemed hesitant to send pressure. Hopefully not too banged up, but now have Ransom, Proctor, Burke and maybe Eichenberg with some question marks.

Another incredible Henderson performance. Remember when all we could talk about is how we couldn’t run the ball?

McCord had 11 comps in a row but I think every single one was a checkdown. Against Rutgers. I don’t think I’ve ever seen him throw over the defense.

[BuckeyeRed27]

McCord had 11 comps in a row but I think every single one was a checkdown. Against Rutgers. I don’t think I’ve ever seen him throw over the defense.

Yes. They were playing a 2 safety zone. Check down and run the ball, that’s how you win against that.

[WVRed]

McCord is absolutely horrible

They absolutely must get a transfer QB this offseason.If Maalik Murphy enters the portal this off-season I think he could be the next big Ohio State QB if that happens.

He would be a nightmare in Days system.

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[BuckeyeRed27]

If Maalik Murphy enters the portal this off-season I think he could be the next big Ohio State QB if that happens.

He would be a nightmare in Days system.

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Ohio State fans would want to make him 4th string if we had a QB beat a ranked team in OT that threw 2 picks and completed 50% of his passes.

[WVRed]

Ohio State fans would want to make him 4th string if we had a QB beat a ranked team in OT that threw 2 picks and completed 50% of his passes.They're kinda doing that with McCord right now.

As RTG kinda alluded to, there isn't a Stroud, Fields, or Haskins caliber QB on the roster currently. It isn't McCord, it isn't Devin Brown, and it likely won't be Air Noland.

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[BuckeyeRed27]

They're kinda doing that with McCord right now.

As RTG kinda alluded to, there isn't a Stroud, Fields, or Haskins caliber QB on the roster currently. It isn't McCord, it isn't Devin Brown, and it likely won't be Air Noland.

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Most teams don’t have a Stroud, Fields or Haskins. Those are nice to have, not a requirement.

McCord has also been significantly better than Murphy, albeit he has only had 2 starts.

[Hillsdale87]

I love coming to read this thread after the game haha

If you watch this team like you are watching an NFL game and not the score 50 point give up 30 point OSU teams the last few years, I promise you’ll enjoy it more because that’s what it is.

McCord was incredibly solid today. Come in here and people want to bench him. Ok sure. He just set the school record for completions to start the game, kept everything in front of him, made one bad pass and had some bad drops on well thrown balls, that made that second quarter get real ugly.

Defense was solid but a little off. Think it showed how valuable Ransom is. Knowles seemed hesitant to send pressure. Hopefully not too banged up, but now have Ransom, Proctor, Burke and maybe Eichenberg with some question marks.

Another incredible Henderson performance. Remember when all we could talk about is how we couldn’t run the ball?

McCord was not solid. He was maybe a step above terrible. I would not complain about him if he was solid because I think with a solid QB they'd be the best team in the country. This is not Maryland. Nobody should be satisfied with the way McCord is playing. You think Day is planning on him being the starter next season?

11 completions to start the game for 64 yards. That's not impressive. In the first half he averaged 5 YPA with an ugly INT. He was checking it down when he had guys open. And that's with 3 5* WRs. McCord is still jittery in the pocket, still doesn't step into throws when he has a defender bearing down on him.

At least with Devin Brown they could incorporate some QB run in. I know it's not ideal to bench a guy who hasn't lost, but I think there's a ceiling on their potential with McCord. Might as well see if you have a chance to raise it.


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[BuckeyeRed27]

McCord was not solid. He was maybe a step above terrible. I would not complain about him if he was solid because I think with a solid QB they'd be the best team in the country. This is not Maryland. Nobody should be satisfied with the way McCord is playing. You think Day is planning on him being the starter next season?

11 completions to start the game for 64 yards. That's not impressive. In the first half he averaged 5 YPA with an ugly INT. He was checking it down when he had guys open. And that's with 3 5* WRs. McCord is still jittery in the pocket, still doesn't step into throws when he has a defender bearing down on him.

At least with Devin Brown they could incorporate some QB run in. I know it's not ideal to bench a guy who hasn't lost, but I think there's a ceiling on their potential with McCord. Might as well see if you have a chance to raise it.


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Yeah the ceiling is winning the national championship.

I don’t care what Day is planning on doing next season.

A step above terrible. You guys are so spoiled and ridiculous. I really do hate our fans sometimes.

[Hillsdale87]

Yeah the ceiling is winning the national championship.

I don’t care what Day is planning on doing next season.

A step above terrible. You guys are so spoiled and ridiculous. I really do hate our fans sometimes.

What would you say McCord does well? If we start in 2011, where would you rank McCord in terms of OSU QBs? BTW, I was somebody preaching patience with Stroud when a lot of OSU fans were upset after his first few starts. I was pretty supportive of Day in the days after the Michigan game last year when many fans were furious. I have high expectations for OSU, but I generally don't think I'm too reactionary. McCord IMO is different from Stroud. He's shown no growth from game 1, nor reason to think growth is coming.

He's a replacement level QB surrounded by possibly the greatest collection of skill position players in college football history. McCord was a 5*, he's been coached by one of the best QB developers in college football. OSU fans should have high expectations for him.


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[BuckeyeRed27]

What would you say McCord does well? If we start in 2011, where would you rank McCord in terms of OSU QBs? BTW, I was somebody preaching patience with Stroud when a lot of OSU fans were upset after his first few starts. I was pretty supportive of Day in the days after the Michigan game last year when many fans were furious. I have high expectations for OSU, but I generally don't think I'm too reactionary. McCord IMO is different from Stroud. He's shown no growth from game 1, nor reason to think growth is coming.

He's a replacement level QB surrounded by possibly the greatest collection of skill position players in college football history. McCord was a 5*, he's been coached by one of the best QB developers in college football. OSU fans should have high expectations for him.


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You are reactionary. OSU has had the best run of QB talent in the history of the program the last 6 years. It’s ok that Kyle McCord isn’t a first round draft pick. You sound like a reactionary whiny baby with how you are talking. I’m sorry that’s harsh, we generally have nice Buckeye talk here and are often on the same page, but geez man. I’m sorry we don’t have the 2 pick in the draft back there.

McCord has lots of flaws. You can read this thread I’ve talked about a lot of them. He’s inconsistent, has ok pocket presence, loses his mechanics under pressure, and sometimes misses reads. He needs to be a game manager right now and he does that fine. We are going to win the big ten and the natty because of defense, Marv and Trey. Ryan Day knows this because he’s an excellent coach. He doesn’t need Kyle making throws all over the field. He needs him to do the basics and to be efficient which outside of the Wisconsin game, he has done quite well. He is statistically one of the best and most efficient QBs in the nation. He rarely makes mistakes. He makes good decisions. He throws a nice ball most of the time. When needed he’s pretty clutch. I mean he literally has the best game winning drive in recent history.

We are 9-0. We have some great wins and are playing really well. It doesn’t always have to be pretty. It’s football. I’m fine with being critical. This is a message board after all, but some of it just drives me absolutely insane and over the top and just wrong.

[Hillsdale87]

You are reactionary. OSU has had the best run of QB talent in the history of the program the last 6 years. It’s ok that Kyle McCord isn’t a first round draft pick. You sound like a reactionary whiny baby with how you are talking. I’m sorry that’s harsh, we generally have nice Buckeye talk here and are often on the same page, but geez man. I’m sorry we don’t have the 2 pick in the draft back there.

McCord has lots of flaws. You can read this thread I’ve talked about a lot of them. He’s inconsistent, has ok pocket presence, loses his mechanics under pressure, and sometimes misses reads. He needs to be a game manager right now and he does that fine. We are going to win the big ten and the natty because of defense, Marv and Trey. Ryan Day knows this because he’s an excellent coach. He doesn’t need Kyle making throws all over the field. He needs him to do the basics and to be efficient which outside of the Wisconsin game, he has done quite well. He is statistically one of the best and most efficient QBs in the nation. He rarely makes mistakes. He makes good decisions. He throws a nice ball most of the time. When needed he’s pretty clutch. I mean he literally has the best game winning drive in recent history.

We are 9-0. We have some great wins and are playing really well. It doesn’t always have to be pretty. It’s football. I’m fine with being critical. This is a message board after all, but some of it just drives me absolutely insane and over the top and just wrong.

We're clearly not going to agree, and that's fine. One of us will be proven right in a few weeks, and I hope it's you, and that OSU beats Michigan.

Last thing I'll say on McCord... I'm not expecting him to be Stroud and look like a first round pick right now. I don't think he needs to for this OSU team to be national champions. But if he comes out after this year, and he theoretically could, he won't be drafted. I'd like right in the middle between 1st round pick and undraftable, which I don't think is an outlandish expectation. Remember John David Booty for USC? I want McCord to be John David Booty. A step down from the great USC QBs, but still a guy that other teams had to worry about.

Also, you're right, a step above terrible was too harsh on McCord's play today. He was fine. I'm still frustrated by some of his plays, but I'd give him a B-/B for today's game.


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[Roy Tucker]

Hey, OSU won a national championship with Craig Krenzel.

I’m fine with McCord checking down and making safe throws. The Buckeyes have a lot of talent that can make those plays into big ones like we saw today. And if not, it keeps the chains moving.

[RedTeamGo!]

They're kinda doing that with McCord right now.

As RTG kinda alluded to, there isn't a Stroud, Fields, or Haskins caliber QB on the roster currently. It isn't McCord, it isn't Devin Brown, and it likely won't be Air Noland.

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It might be Kleinholz, and yeah, I think Noland might be the next great one.

[RedTeamGo!]

Yeah the ceiling is winning the national championship.

I don’t care what Day is planning on doing next season.

A step above terrible. You guys are so spoiled and ridiculous. I really do hate our fans sometimes.

Ehhhh, I think we just see the team winning in spite of mid QB play. I don’t think you can bench him, but I do wonder if Jeremiah Smith is watching this and is going to decommit.

[BuckeyeRed27]

Ehhhh, I think we just see the team winning in spite of mid QB play. I don’t think you can bench him, but I do wonder if Jeremiah Smith is watching this and is going to decommit.

I’m shocked you think that.

[BuckeyeRed27]

We're clearly not going to agree, and that's fine. One of us will be proven right in a few weeks, and I hope it's you, and that OSU beats Michigan.

Last thing I'll say on McCord... I'm not expecting him to be Stroud and look like a first round pick right now. I don't think he needs to for this OSU team to be national champions. But if he comes out after this year, and he theoretically could, he won't be drafted. I'd like right in the middle between 1st round pick and undraftable, which I don't think is an outlandish expectation. Remember John David Booty for USC? I want McCord to be John David Booty. A step down from the great USC QBs, but still a guy that other teams had to worry about.

Also, you're right, a step above terrible was too harsh on McCord's play today. He was fine. I'm still frustrated by some of his plays, but I'd give him a B-/B for today's game.


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He is already better than John David Booty. Heck he is better than Joe Burrow was his first LSU season.

[GAC]

McCord had 11 comps in a row but I think every single one was a checkdown. Against Rutgers. I don’t think I’ve ever seen him throw over the defense.

Rutger's defense is #4 in the B10, and 10th nationally. And I didn't know that (because it's Rutgers lol). I'll give credit where credit is due. Like opponents ... Michigan beat Rutgers 31-7. OSU 35-16.

Michigan finally plays a ranked team this next week when they travel to Happy Valley. The #1 and #2 defense nationally facing off.

This OSU team is not the offensive "juggernaut" the fans have gotten use to, and seem to always expect. You've got a new QB, three new members on the O-line, alongside an oft-injured running game for most of the season. ;)

[RedTeamGo!]

I’m shocked you think that.

This isn’t that serious, brother

[BuckeyeRed27]

This isn’t that serious, brother

Ha I agree, that’s why a lot of this commentary drives me nuts.

I just hate this weird perpetual negativity from a lot of OSU fans.

Like you think a top WR recruit is going to decommit from the 1 ranked team in the nation that has a WR very likely going to NY for the Heisman ceremony. That’s weird.

[kaldaniels]

I don’t mind McCord playing Captain Checkdown yesterday. That’s what they were giving him.

The INT negates any good vibes I would have gotten from yesterday though. If you are Captain Checkdown I do have the high expectation of no INT.

C-grade performance.

[bucksfan2]

McCord is by no means a finished product. And I think he is rightfully (or wrongly) being compared to some pretty serious talent coming before him. You had Haskins, Fields and now Stroud who looks like a generational QB in the NFL. Stroud caught a ton of heat from OSU fans because of his refusal to run the ball, so take that for what its worth. But I think overall the reaction to McCord has been a little too tedious and in depth. Sure the guy has had mistakes, and he is a first year starter, you don't expect him to throw INT's? I would much rather have him do that against Wisconsin when he can work through it instead of against Michigan. The throw against Rutgers is one they practice constantly at OSU, its the one inch throw, the one just over the LB and under the DB. McCord threw a bad ball, it happens.

I think Day needs to force the ball to Harrison a little bit more. Too electric of a talent not to do so. But if you are going to call McCord captain check down, its not exactly a bad thing if you have Trey catching the check down who can house it at any minute. One thing of note against Rutgers, apparently the came out in a lot of cover 2, forcing everything in front of them. McCord's safety blanket, Stover, was out. A guy who knows where to sit in a zone, and is going to catch the ball Gee Scott dropped. Drops happen in college football all the time, but if you are going to knock McCord for the first half, you have to recognize that if they don't have the two drops, the score may have looked quite a bit different.

[RedTeamGo!]

I understand McCord is a first year starter, however, he is a junior and he is not showing improvement and we are going into week 10. Stroud showed some warts early in his first season but by this point of the year he was a finely tuned machine, for example. I certainly do not expect McCord to be perfect or anything, but I do expect improvement, and I am not seeing it.

I think he is Todd Boeckman 2.0.

[BuckeyeRed27]

I understand McCord is a first year starter, however, he is a junior and he is not showing improvement and we are going into week 10. Stroud showed some warts early in his first season but by this point of the year he was a finely tuned machine, for example. I certainly do not expect McCord to be perfect or anything, but I do expect improvement, and I am not seeing it.

I think he is Todd Boeckman 2.0.

Todd Boeckman played for a national championship. It’s actually not a bad comp to the 2007 team. Dominant defense, good running back, good receivers, game manager QB. This years team has a better defense and better receivers and McCord is mildly better than boeckman.

[bucksfan2]

I understand McCord is a first year starter, however, he is a junior and he is not showing improvement and we are going into week 10. Stroud showed some warts early in his first season but by this point of the year he was a finely tuned machine, for example. I certainly do not expect McCord to be perfect or anything, but I do expect improvement, and I am not seeing it.

I think he is Todd Boeckman 2.0.

McCord's second half of games is pretty impressive. He (and OSU in general) tends to start slow. He is inconsistent, but when he gets hot, he can get very hot.

That Boeckman led team was really the last of an era of OSU football. They were good, but the dominance of the college game was heading south. While that team was talented, and had several very good NFL players on it, they didn't have the overall depth of talent it took to beat the best. McCord may be Boeckman 2.0 right now, but Boeckman didn't have Harrison Jr or Ebuka. He didn't have a NFL TE throwing the ball to. He had a good defense, but I don't think he had a defense full of NFL players.

[RedTeamGo!]

McCord's second half of games is pretty impressive. He (and OSU in general) tends to start slow. He is inconsistent, but when he gets hot, he can get very hot.

That Boeckman led team was really the last of an era of OSU football. They were good, but the dominance of the college game was heading south. While that team was talented, and had several very good NFL players on it, they didn't have the overall depth of talent it took to beat the best. McCord may be Boeckman 2.0 right now, but Boeckman didn't have Harrison Jr or Ebuka. He didn't have a NFL TE throwing the ball to. He had a good defense, but I don't think he had a defense full of NFL players.

Boeckman had 3 NFL WRs - Hartline, Robiskie, and Sanzenbacher

[bucksfan2]

Boeckman had 3 NFL WRs - Hartline, Robiskie, and Sanzenbacher

You aren't comparing those three to Ebuka and Harrison are you? Hartline is the only one who did anything with his career. Robiskie was a bust, Sanzenbacher was an UDFA who hung around as a practice squad fringe player for a few years.

[RedTeamGo!]

You aren't comparing those three to Ebuka and Harrison are you? Hartline is the only one who did anything with his career. Robiskie was a bust, Sanzenbacher was an UDFA who hung around as a practice squad fringe player for a few years.

Robiskie was excellent at OSU. You are right about Hartline only one having an NFL career of note, however, Harrison and Ebuka haven't set foot on an NFL field yet.

[Hillsdale87]

Todd Boeckman played for a national championship. It’s actually not a bad comp to the 2007 team. Dominant defense, good running back, good receivers, game manager QB. This years team has a better defense and better receivers and McCord is mildly better than boeckman.

My worry is that I just don't know if that works in 2023. Football has changed. Coker won the CFP for Bama in 2015, but since then it's been all good QBs. Bama used to win with defense and running, but Saban realized that wasn't going to work going forward and has prioritized dynamic QBs. Look at last year; Georgia had a dominant defense, and OSU put up 41. I think OSU is going to need to get to 30+ against Michigan and in the playoff, even with their strong defense.


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[BuckeyeRed27]

My worry is that I just don't know if that works in 2023. Football has changed. Coker won the CFP for Bama in 2015, but since then it's been all good QBs. Bama used to win with defense and running, but Saban realized that wasn't going to work going forward and has prioritized dynamic QBs. Look at last year; Georgia had a dominant defense, and OSU put up 41. I think OSU is going to need to get to 30+ against Michigan and in the playoff, even with their strong defense.


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Is Stetson Bennett a good QB? I would say no. I also don’t think Georgia had a dominant defense last year, it was certainly dominant 2 years ago for the most past. Last year they kinda played a bad schedule and 2 of the 3 teams they played with a pulse put up a ton of points on them.

I don’t think Michigan can score 30 on OSU. They can sustain a couple long drives, but unless OSU beats themselves they can’t do it 4 or 5 times. I also think Michigan is losing Saturday in Happy Valley.

[Hillsdale87]

Is Stetson Bennett a good QB? I would say no. I also don’t think Georgia had a dominant defense last year, it was certainly dominant 2 years ago for the most past. Last year they kinda played a bad schedule and 2 of the 3 teams they played with a pulse put up a ton of points on them.

I don’t think Michigan can score 30 on OSU. They can sustain a couple long drives, but unless OSU beats themselves they can’t do it 4 or 5 times. I also think Michigan is losing Saturday in Happy Valley.

Bennet is/was good. He's an undersized QB who still ended up as a 4th round pick. OSU would be the CFP favorite if Bennett was the QB. He was a good enough passer who also could make plays with his legs.

Georgia last year shut down Tennessee and only gave up points to LSU after they went out to a huge lead. That defense was very good.


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[BuckeyeRed27]

Bennet is/was good. He's an undersized QB who still ended up as a 4th round pick. OSU would be the CFP favorite if Bennett was the QB. He was a good enough passer who also could make plays with his legs.

Georgia last year shut down Tennessee and only gave up points to LSU after they went out to a huge lead. That defense was very good.


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I guess. Bennett in 21 looks awfully similar to McCord and he also got a lot of time during Covid year, plus a year of JC.

Georgia had a good defense last year, I don’t think it was a dominant defense.

[bucksfan2]

Robiskie was excellent at OSU. You are right about Hartline only one having an NFL career of note, however, Harrison and Ebuka haven't set foot on an NFL field yet.

Robiskie was good at OSU, I always thought he was over drafted by the Browns, kinda classic Browns move. To be honest, I don't know if he is in the 3 deep at WR over the past 5 years or so had he played today. He was a solid yet unspectacular player at OSU. He actually may be a perfect example of where OSU was during those Tressel era teams. Good players, solid mid round draft picks, not guys who would strike fear into opposing defenses. No Harrison and Ebuka haven't set foot in the NFL yet, but I see no comparison between Robiskie, Hartline, etc. and Harrison, Ebuka etc.

[Hillsdale87]

I guess. Bennett in 21 looks awfully similar to McCord and he also got a lot of time during Covid year, plus a year of JC.

Georgia had a good defense last year, I don’t think it was a dominant defense.

Well we just see QBs very differently [emoji1]. I think Bennett was very good. Not as good as Stroud, but one of the best college QBs. Yes, he obviously had a lot more time to develop than McCord as he's almost Lamar's age. So I don't know if he'd have been better than McCord as a 20 year old, but that's not really the point.


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[RedTeamGo!]

Robiskie was good at OSU, I always thought he was over drafted by the Browns, kinda classic Browns move. To be honest, I don't know if he is in the 3 deep at WR over the past 5 years or so had he played today. He was a solid yet unspectacular player at OSU. He actually may be a perfect example of where OSU was during those Tressel era teams. Good players, solid mid round draft picks, not guys who would strike fear into opposing defenses. No Harrison and Ebuka haven't set foot in the NFL yet, but I see no comparison between Robiskie, Hartline, etc. and Harrison, Ebuka etc.

I think Ebuka would give his left nut to have Hartline's NFL career

[Danny Serafini]

I would bet Egbuka has higher expectations for himself. Hartline had two 1000 yards seasons and five of being just a guy, I doubt Egbuka would be content with that.

[bucksfan2]

I would bet Egbuka has higher expectations for himself. Hartline had two 1000 yards seasons and five of being just a guy, I doubt Egbuka would be content with that.

I can't really recall much of Hartline's NFL career. IIRC he had one good season in the slot in Miami and got PAID. It was always a shock to me because I never really expected much out of him in the NFL.

I expect Egbuka to go on and have a very good NFL career. I don't think he can be a true #1 type WR, but if paired up in the right system, can be a very good WR for a long time.

[RedTeamGo!]

I would bet Egbuka has higher expectations for himself. Hartline had two 1000 yards seasons and five of being just a guy, I doubt Egbuka would be content with that.

7 year NFL careers do not grow on trees, especially for skill positions

[*BaseClogger*]

McCord looks great.

[Hillsdale87]

It's Michigan State... But that was a beautiful pass. I hope he can use this game to get in a rhythm. He's clearly got a good arm, but the issue is his ability to show it under pressure.


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[*BaseClogger*]

MSU’s defense is ok and this is the rhythm we’ve been looking for regardless of opponent. He’s setting his feet and showing presence in the pocket.

[Roy Tucker]

This was the improvement step I was hoping McCord would make. But it’s also Michigan State so I take it all with a grain of salt.

28-3 Buckeyes.

[Hillsdale87]

MSU’s defense is ok and this is the rhythm we’ve been looking for regardless of opponent. He’s setting his feet and showing presence in the pocket.

When he steps into his throws, it looks pretty good. He has a tendency to fade instead of pushing forward. Would be great if he's turning a corner


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[Hillsdale87]

McCord is throwing with confidence. Beautiful!


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[Assembly Hall]

McCord is throwing with confidence. Beautiful!


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I thought McCord looked great. And that is exactly what the Bucks need moving forward.

[Hillsdale87]

I thought McCord looked great. And that is exactly what the Bucks need moving forward.

I don't expect him to look quite like that because MSU is terrible, but OSU doesn't need him to. If he can hit his drop, trust what he's seeing, and throw with confidence, that'll be good enough. As good as CJ was throwing the football, part of what made him so great is that he knew where to go right away. IMO McCord's issues start with not seeing things quickly enough, and then everything gets rushed. Last night he was so much quicker and trusted his guys to make plays, which is a good idea when your receivers are elite.


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[RedTeamGo!]

Kinda wondering if the Buckeyes should just shut Ebuka down for next two games and give his reps to Innis

[*BaseClogger*]

Kinda wondering if the Buckeyes should just shut Ebuka down for next two games and give his reps to Innis

Wish that had been the plan for weeks. Too late now I’m afraid.

[BuckeyeRed27]

Don’t see much of a reason for him to play Saturday, but whatever he can provide against Michigan go for it.

[Hillsdale87]

McCord is looking like early in the season again. Skittish, not setting his feet, leading to throwing behind guys. Disappointing not to build on last week


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[Hillsdale87]

Kinda wondering if the Buckeyes should just shut Ebuka down for next two games and give his reps to Innis

Egbuka looks great today


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[Hillsdale87]

Opening line is Michigan -3.5


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[kaldaniels]

Well Buckeye fans it sure seems like the team has rounded into form and the team is pretty healthy.

Couldn’t have asked for more headed into this weekend. I think it will be a hell of a game - as an OSU fan my main concern is UM pounding the ball up the middle and quite possibly OSU isn’t able to stop it.

[*BaseClogger*]

Well Buckeye fans it sure seems like the team has rounded into form and the team is pretty healthy.

Couldn’t have asked for more headed into this weekend. I think it will be a hell of a game - as an OSU fan my main concern is UM pounding the ball up the middle and quite possibly OSU isn’t able to stop it.

I really hope Mike Hall is ready to go.

This doesn’t appear to be as dominant of a Michigan offensive line. They’re dealing with some injuries and their tackles have been beat badly off the edge in recent weeks. They have to run the ball to set up play action. McCarthy isn’t going to have a lot of time. I hope Knowles trusts his defense enough to blitz more because that seems like the right plan.

The Buckeyes need to come up with a response to the heavy formation Michigan has been running. The cat is out of the bag there.

[Hillsdale87]

I really hope Mike Hall is ready to go.

This doesn’t appear to be as dominant of a Michigan offensive line. They’re dealing with some injuries and their tackles have been beat badly off the edge in recent weeks. They have to run the ball to set up play action. McCarthy isn’t going to have a lot of time. I hope Knowles trusts his defense enough to blitz more because that seems like the right plan.

The Buckeyes need to come up with a response to the heavy formation Michigan has been running. The cat is out of the bag there.

Sounds like Hall should be good. I think the only guy missing will be Ransom.


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[BuckeyeRed27]

I really hope Mike Hall is ready to go.

This doesn’t appear to be as dominant of a Michigan offensive line. They’re dealing with some injuries and their tackles have been beat badly off the edge in recent weeks. They have to run the ball to set up play action. McCarthy isn’t going to have a lot of time. I hope Knowles trusts his defense enough to blitz more because that seems like the right plan.

The Buckeyes need to come up with a response to the heavy formation Michigan has been running. The cat is out of the bag there.

The tackles thing is going to be the difference in this game. They are bad and have been exposed once they played a couple teams with nfl DE talent, it just took 10 games until it happened. I think the Buckeyes are dominating the LOS and JT is going to be very very good friends with McCarthy on Saturday.

[RedTeamGo!]

The tackles thing is going to be the difference in this game. They are bad and have been exposed once they played a couple teams with nfl DE talent, it just took 10 games until it happened. I think the Buckeyes are dominating the LOS and JT is going to be very very good friends with McCarthy on Saturday.

Sawyer is starting to play like he is supposed to as well. If Sawyer and JT go off on Saturday I do not see how Michigan can win. knock on wood.

[BuckeyeRed27]

Sawyer is starting to play like he is supposed to as well. If Sawyer and JT go off on Saturday I do not see how Michigan can win. knock on wood.

Sawyer was probably the best player on defense Saturday. Huge strides.

I also think Styles will be a nightmare for McCarthy and the run game. I watched him a lot on Saturday too and he has great instincts against the run. Just eliminates the edge and cutback lanes constantly.

[bucksfan2]

Sawyer is starting to play like he is supposed to as well. If Sawyer and JT go off on Saturday I do not see how Michigan can win. knock on wood.

I know you were down on Sawyer, but he had a pretty unique path at OSU. He sat out his entire senior year in high school, came in, went from DE, to Jack, then back to DE. He had the one massive spring game, his freshman year I believe, but has never really shown that pass rushing ability. But all along he has been a staunch run defender on the outside. He isn't a true edge like Young or the Bosas were, but has rounded out into a very good player.

FWIW I think both Sawyer and JTT to a lesser extent are the same type of player. It would be nice if one were a true edge and one were a true run stopper, but its just the way things are now.

[Hillsdale87]

I know you were down on Sawyer, but he had a pretty unique path at OSU. He sat out his entire senior year in high school, came in, went from DE, to Jack, then back to DE. He had the one massive spring game, his freshman year I believe, but has never really shown that pass rushing ability. But all along he has been a staunch run defender on the outside. He isn't a true edge like Young or the Bosas were, but has rounded out into a very good player.

FWIW I think both Sawyer and JTT to a lesser extent are the same type of player. It would be nice if one were a true edge and one were a true run stopper, but its just the way things are now.

Sawyer strikes me as someone who will have a career like Sam Hubbard. Very good against the run, gives you less as a pass rusher than you'd like, but still a very valuable player.


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[*BaseClogger*]

OSU offensive line is playing at a high level too. Big holes in the run game (note, even Chip is picking up chunks of yardage right now) and plenty of pass protection for McCord. As long as they're balanced on Saturday I'm not worried about McCord. Give him play action and he'll make some plays.

[RedTeamGo!]

OSU offensive line is playing at a high level too. Big holes in the run game (note, even Chip is picking up chunks of yardage right now) and plenty of pass protection for McCord. As long as they're balanced on Saturday I'm not worried about McCord. Give him play action and he'll make some plays.

I’m nervous about Hinzman getting abused. He has been one of the worst center in all of P5

[LiferJim]

For those still on the McCord is bad bandwagon, the Buckeyes are 11-0 with him this year. He's completed 211 of 318 passes for 2899 yards, with 22 touchdowns and only 4 interceptions! No he's obviously not the best college quarterback ever, but I'll take those numbers in a heartbeat. He's definitely not as bad as some make him out to be. Michigan is going down Saturday and then he will be 12-0!

[GAC]

It would be a lot sweeter beating Michigan with Harbaugh on the sideline.

[BuckeyeRed27]

It would be a lot sweeter beating Michigan with Harbaugh on the sideline.

I literally don’t give a single crap who is on the sideline. Just win.

[RedTeamGo!]

It would be a lot sweeter beating Michigan with Harbaugh on the sideline.

I don’t care who is on the sideline. Just win baby.

[Hillsdale87]

For those still on the McCord is bad bandwagon, the Buckeyes are 11-0 with him this year. He's completed 211 of 318 passes for 2899 yards, with 22 touchdowns and only 4 interceptions! No he's obviously not the best college quarterback ever, but I'll take those numbers in a heartbeat. He's definitely not as bad as some make him out to be. Michigan is going down Saturday and then he will be 12-0!

McCord is 101st out of 106 QBs in college football in EPA when pressured. He's objectively terrible when things aren't clean. That's going to be the key to the game. If the OL can hold up, OSU should be fine. If they struggle, it could be a long day because McCord's mechanics fall apart when he's pressured.


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[LiferJim]

McCord is 101st out of 106 QBs in college football in EPA when pressured. He's objectively terrible when things aren't clean. That's going to be the key to the game. If the OL can hold up, OSU should be fine. If they struggle, it could be a long day because McCord's mechanics fall apart when he's pressured.


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Maybe so, but he is 11-0, with very few turnovers. If that continues, which I believe it will, I like our chances of beating Michigan. Go Buckeyes!!!


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[goreds2]

O - H

[moewan]

Well my house is about 5 miles from the Ann Arbor airport, the private jets have been lined up to land for about 45 minutes now, the high rollers are arriving, I'll be glad when it's over and we can get back to normal here.

[jimbo]

O - H

I-O

[The Operator]

Watching this game with my Xichigan fan father in law.


I NEED this to be a Buckeyes win.

[Hillsdale87]

Not sure if there's a lot of wind, but these punts are terrible.


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[Hillsdale87]

Maybe so, but he is 11-0, with very few turnovers. If that continues, which I believe it will, I like our chances of beating Michigan. Go Buckeyes!!!


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He's terrible


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[The Operator]

Jesus.

Great throw, McCord.

[dubc47834]

Good call...had to stay with the call on the field

[The Operator]

Welp.


TD TTUN.


Can’t hand them the ball inside the 10 like that. Ugh.

[Roy Tucker]

McCord can’t do that. TDs are going to be scarce and you can’t just hand them one. The OSU defense was stout but that’s a tough situation.

[The Operator]

McCord makings some dangerous throws. Nearly had another picked off.

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7-3 after an OSU field goal

[Roy Tucker]

Man, McCord is awfully wobbly.

[goreds2]

Man, McCord is awfully wobbly.

I think they said both ankles are taped up?

[LiferJim]

He's terrible


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Definitely bad decision. 1st drive the dropped 1st down wasn’t his fault. Receiver looked up before catching the ball


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[Hillsdale87]

Definitely bad decision. 1st drive the dropped 1st down wasn’t his fault. Receiver looked up before catching the ball


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Agreed that the Egbuka drop wasn't his fault, but it wasn't well thrown. He's been way off on others. Need more


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[LiferJim]

Agreed that the Egbuka drop wasn't his fault, but it wasn't well thrown. He's been way off on others. Need more


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Agree! He has to do better!! Need to get the running game going too.


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[Hillsdale87]

Feels like we've had way more commercial time than game time so far


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[Hillsdale87]

Agree! He has to do better!! Need to get the running game going too.


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Michigan seems to be selling out on the run. OL is holding up ok in pass blocking so hopefully can get something going


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[Hillsdale87]

That completion by McCarthy shows the difference. Man coming at him, stays calm and gets the short completion


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[The Operator]

Multiple 4th down conversions given up now.

[The Operator]

TTUN now 3/3 on 4th downs. Ugh.

[The Operator]

Welp.

Another Michigan TD.

[The Operator]

That actually did NOT look like a catch, but the refs wouldn’t dare overturn it.


14-3 Bad Guys


Might be enough with the way the offense is looking

[LiferJim]

Not sure the receiver controlled that ball before the Interception


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[Roy Tucker]

I don’t think he made that catch but it’s too close to overturn.

Refs are being influenced by the big crowd. They are usually better than that.

[LiferJim]

We just got hosed on that


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[The Operator]

I don’t think he made that catch but it’s too close to overturn.

Refs are being influenced by the big crowd. They are usually better than that.

I’m sure they’re also trying not to appear biased against Michigan with the whole “everyone is out to get us” narrative coming out of Ann Arbor.

[pedro]

I don’t think there’s enough evidence to overturn. If it had been declared an interception I think that would have stood too.


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[The Operator]

Needed that!!!! TD Buckeyes!!!

[LiferJim]

Touchdown!! Woohooo


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[Hillsdale87]

Great playcalling by Day, good answer from McCord.


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[LiferJim]

I don’t think there’s enough evidence to overturn. If it had been declared an interception I think that would have stood too.


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I actually thought it was very clear that he never had control of the ball. Oh well


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[Roy Tucker]

I’m such a fair weather fan influenced by the ebb and flow of the game. I was in the pits of despair 10 minutes ago.

[The Operator]

I’m such a fair weather fan influenced by the ebb and flow of the game. I was in the pits of despair 10 minutes ago.

We all are to some degree. It’s the nature of watching sports.

[The Operator]

Nice defensive stand, finally got to McCarthy and laid a lick on him.


Rough starting field position, though.

[Hillsdale87]

Would be great to geta holding call at some point. Sawyer and JTT getting held almost every play


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[The Operator]

How is there any doubt that’s a catch?

[pedro]

That’s a catch


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[Hillsdale87]

Best play of McCord's career there


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[Hillsdale87]

Day sitting on this is pathetic


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[The Operator]

Icing the kicker works

It’s 14-10 Xichigan at halftime


Bad guys start the 3rd with the ball

[Hillsdale87]

Day sitting on this is pathetic


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And gets what he deserves. Be a man!

Michigan has been aggressive on 4th, OSU has not. And that's the difference so far


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[LiferJim]

Day sitting on this is pathetic


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I agree! Get the kicker closer at least. Ugh


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[The Operator]

Day sitting on this is pathetic


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Coaching scared. That was brutal.

[Roy Tucker]

Day sitting on this is pathetic


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4th and 2 though. Probably the right call even when he missed it. Keep your head up kid.

[kaldaniels]

McCord handed them 7 points, but I feel ok headed to the second half.

They seem to have figured out what is working.

[The Operator]

McCord handed them 7 points, but I feel ok headed to the second half.

They seem to have figured out what is working.

Badly need a stop coming out of halftime.

[kaldaniels]

Day sitting on this is pathetic


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I’m not a Day apologist but it was fine.

4th and 2 is a a lot different than UM’s 4th and 1’s (or less).

They had to be very careful with UM getting the ball to start the second half.

[Hillsdale87]

4th and 2 though. Probably the right call even when he missed it. Keep your head up kid.

My complaints were also with the 3 previous plays


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[Hillsdale87]

Day did the same thing against Georgia last year. Got in position for a long FG and played too conservative


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[kaldaniels]

Honestly UM should have taken a timeout with 30 sec left to force Day’s hand.

[LiferJim]

My complaints were also with the 3 previous plays


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The announcers are talking about the conservative calls at the end of the half too


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[The Operator]

I also don’t understand the lack of tempo on that drive. No real urgency after that first catch at the sideline.

[LiferJim]

I also don’t understand the lack of tempo on that drive. No real urgency after that first catch at the sideline.

Agree and especially after the Harrison catch.


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[kaldaniels]

It’s not like Day was throwing to the endzone on the last 3 plays…

But 1st down was a bad pass to an open guy that should have got it to the 25.
Second was a swing pass to #32, maybe McCord could have looked downfield but whatever.
And 3rd they just were trying to get a first down with UM playing on top of them.

That’s life against a great defense and you are up against the clock.

It wasn’t good but not egregious.

[goreds2]

Badly need a stop coming out of halftime.

What the heck. I will predict an onside kick.

[The Operator]

Welp. The defense did not have a stop dialed up.

[Roy Tucker]

They better overturn that.

[The Operator]

That is absolutely not a catch.

[LiferJim]

Reviews are getting ridiculous on obvious plays. Officials missing a lot of calls


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[The Operator]

Nice job to hold that to a FG.


17-10 Cheaters


Need an answer from the Buckeye offense.

[Hillsdale87]

Whew. That drive was man football


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[The Operator]

TD Bucks!!!


Ran it down their throats!!! Man that was fun to watch!

[LiferJim]

Ran it down their throat. Wooohooo!!


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[dubc47834]

That drive was impressive!

[Hillsdale87]

OSU's offense has been consistently better in the second half. Good start. Hopefully they can keep it up


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[Roy Tucker]

Love that Buckeye drive. I didn’t think that would happen today.

Good ballgame.

[LiferJim]

Turnover time for Michigan [emoji1696]


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[The Operator]

Defense didn’t get the memo.

[LiferJim]

1 sack for our defense won’t cut it! Make a play!!!


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[Roy Tucker]

Michigan making clever calls on offense. Bah.

[dubc47834]

That sucks to see!

[Hillsdale87]

Michigan making clever calls on offense. Bah.

These are great playcalls. I don't think Michigan can line up and beat OSU, so they're getting really creative, which is smart. OSU needs to adjust now


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[Roy Tucker]

Hate to see guys hurt like that no matter what their uniform color.

[The Operator]

Hate to see that injury.


With that said, take advantage of it and don’t let it motivate them.

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TD the very next play.


Ugh.


Cheaters retake the lead.

[dubc47834]

I was just typing that break could slow down the Michigan momentum...I was wrong

[The Operator]

And the Buckeyes answer with a 3 & out.

Thud.

[Hillsdale87]

McCord freaking out in a clean pocket and throws it at the feet of a guy who was double covered [emoji2359]


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[Todd Gack]

And the Buckeyes answer with a 3 & out.

Thud.

As I asked in NCAA thread, you guys just ran it 8 straight times between the tackles on the last drive and your first play is a wide toss? WTH?

[Hillsdale87]

How has Day not fired Parker Fleming yet?


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[WVRed]

How has Day not fired Parker Fleming yet?


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkProbably will be taking him with him to College Station after the game.

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[Roy Tucker]

Things getting testy.

[LiferJim]

As I asked in NCAA thread, you guys just ran it 8 straight times between the tackles on the last drive and your first play is a wide toss? WTH?

Exactly. Pitiful play call


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[Hillsdale87]

Probably will be taking him with him to College Station after the game.

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Biggest difference without Urban. ST used to be a secret weapon. Is now a liability


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[The Operator]

OSU falls for another gadget play.


They’re gonna lose again.

[The Operator]

Well. They rally to force a FG, but it’s back to a 2-score game.


27-17 Cheaters

[LiferJim]

Defense has not shown up big today. 1 sack and zero turnovers. Ugh


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[The Operator]

The McCord interception and Day being scared at the end of the first half are looming so huge right now.

[The Operator]

Marv!!!! TD Buckeyes!!!

[dubc47834]

Nice play call on that TD!

[The Operator]

Defense has to come up with a stop here. No other option.