Any Other Steelers Fans On Here?

[KoryMac5]

Steelers are still stuck in Pitts could not get a pilot willing to fly in due to the wind/conditions...plus NYS shut down Erie county until 12a Monday. Steelers may not get in to Buffalo until a few hrs before game time.

[RedTeamGo!]

Might have to move it to Tuesday, but man this is gonna screw both teams. At this point you probably have to play it in Cleveland. That would be a home game for Pitt, though. Lots of Steelers fans in the eastern burbs of Cleveland.

[KoryMac5]

Might have to move it to Tuesday, but man this is gonna screw both teams. At this point you probably have to play it in Cleveland. That would be a home game for Pitt, though. Lots of Steelers fans in the eastern burbs of Cleveland.

Buffalo is actually pretty decent right now...I think once the winds die down they can safely get in...however making it south to the stadium is another story,

[SteelSD]

Steelers are still stuck in Pitts could not get a pilot willing to fly in due to the wind/conditions...plus NYS shut down Erie county until 12a Monday. Steelers may not get in to Buffalo until a few hrs before game time.

ESPN is reporting that the Steelers arrived this afternoon, and that the NY Gov. is stating that the game will not be postponed a second time.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/39308373/gov-kathy-hochul-steelers-bills-pushed-back-again

[KoryMac5]

Looks like cold and windy snow should be done by game time…I would imagine the plows will be going all night to get the snow removed and make travel safe around the stadium.

[SteelSD]

Welp, it's always a bit disappointing when your team's season ends in the second quarter of a playoff game, but I'm pretty used to it by now.

[SteelSD]

Well, that was bad. Bad turnovers. Bad first half. Bad time management. Bad defense- both game plan and execution. Bad tackling. Bad punter. Bad injuries. Bad officiating. Bad fans. Tony Romo.

Bad draft slot upcoming.

[WVRed]

Well, that was bad. Bad turnovers. Bad first half. Bad time management. Bad defense- both game plan and execution. Bad tackling. Bad punter. Bad injuries. Bad officiating. Bad fans. Tony Romo.

Bad draft slot upcoming.Bad Mike Tomlin walking out of the press conference when asked about his contract.

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[Sea Ray]

I think Tomlin’s gone. Can’t blame him. He’s been there a long time and their situation isn’t going to change anytime soon


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[Roy Tucker]

Nm. Wrong thread

[oregonred]

Well, that was bad. Bad turnovers. Bad first half. Bad time management. Bad defense- both game plan and execution. Bad tackling. Bad punter. Bad injuries. Bad officiating. Bad fans. Tony Romo.

Bad draft slot upcoming.

So do I understand. It was bad?

[SteelSD]

Bad Mike Tomlin walking out of the press conference when asked about his contract.

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Meh. There are a definitely a few negative things on Tomlin's watch, and I'm no apologist for any coach, but I'm not going to fault him for that. Contrary to popular belief, there are times when ignoring a question is an appropriate thing to do, specifically if it's the wrong place and time to address it.

[SteelSD]

So do I understand. It was bad?

I was my mention of Tony Romo that gave it away, wasn't it?

[bucksfan2]

My nephew calls him Mediocre Mike. I don't know which direction the Steelers should go. I think he is a good coach, but they haven't been championship caliber for a decade. They don't have a QB, Pickett was a poor pick, and I will even say Harris was a poor pick at the time.

I think the Steelers have a championship level defense, but offense is a mess. Can Mike fix that? I don't think that is fixable unless they find a QB good enough.

[RedTeamGo!]

In the NFL if you don't have a QB you don't have a team. The Steelers D can be as good as possible, but doesn't matter if you have Kenny Pickett or Mason Rudolph running the show.

[SteelSD]

In the NFL if you don't have a QB you don't have a team. The Steelers D can be as good as possible, but doesn't matter if you have Kenny Pickett or Mason Rudolph running the show.

And yet, despite the pick in the end zone, it wasn't Mason Rudolph that allowed a 50+ yard scamper from Josh Allen, nor did he allow a long TD pass down the middle of the field with no safety help, nor did he do any number of thing the defense did or didn't do that made it impossible to win that game. Overall, I don't have any issue with Rudolph's play since he was handed the ball from the perspective that equitable play from their QB can win playoff games.

While Mason Rudolph or Kenny Pickett may not be franchise QBs, the issues run much deeper and include an overrated defense held together by bailing twine. That defense is counting on four guys- a rookie (Porter Jr.), the best edge rusher in the game (Watt), a safety who hasn't made a real play in about a year (Minkah), and a now-35 year old rock in the middle (Heyward). Plus, they currently field the worst punter in the NFL, which concedes extra yards to the opposing offense.

And their offensive game plan is to string together 20 play drives that chew up a ton of clock under the misconception that their defense may bend, but it won't break. I think we saw last night that against good teams, that's not a solid plan. It requires no mistakes, no setbacks, no turnovers, no bad calls. Still, the Steelers were in the game late. A sole TD down. What broke then? The defense. For at least the third time in the game and for the sixth playoff game in a row.

So yeah, I'd love another Roethlisburger. But there's a lot more to fix than most folks realize.

[RedTeamGo!]

But there's a lot more to fix than most folks realize.

Totally agree, I am just saying, you can fix everything and you still need a legit QB. The Ravens with Dilfer and Buccs with Johnson will never happen again

[SteelSD]

Totally agree, I am just saying, you can fix everything and you still need a legit QB. The Ravens with Dilfer and Buccs with Johnson will never happen again

Sure. I get it. That being said, my point is that I think the Steelers are currently further from that mattering than some suspect.

Heck, I didn't even touch on their o-line, which boasts a trash left tackle, who for some reason is keeping a potential franchise LT on the right side, plus a center who can't snap the ball accurately and is constantly trucked by any defensive player on an opponent's roster.

So besides needing to modernize the offense, get at least two maulers on th o-line, find impact inside linebackers, at least one more solid corner, a new punter, another solid safety (Eric Rowe needs to be re-signed IMHO, he was a solid find off the street), and a replacement for Cam Heyward soon, I'm good with playing out the string on the QBs they have, because all of that isn't going to be fixed tomorrow.

[WVRed]

Biggest mistake the Steelers made was drafting Pickett to start with.

It was a Chad Pennington type of QB class. Take Tyler Smith or Tyler Linderbaum instead, punt last season and get in line for Bryce Young, CJ Stroud, Anthony Richardson or Will Levis.

But they thought they had to draft someone right away to take Bens place. Yes they made the playoffs but they could have fixed other issues in the 2022 draft had they bypassed on Pickett and actually lost a season to get someone better.

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[SteelSD]

Biggest mistake the Steelers made was drafting Pickett to start with.

It was a Chad Pennington type of QB class. Take Tyler Smith or Tyler Linderbaum instead, punt last season and get in line for Bryce Young, CJ Stroud, Anthony Richardson or Will Levis.

But they thought they had to draft someone right away to take Bens place. Yes they made the playoffs but they could have fixed other issues in the 2022 draft had they bypassed on Pickett and actually lost a season to get someone better.

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We could say the same thing about 2021 and Pat Friermuth, who they took about 8 slots above Creed Humphrey. There are always going to be alternatives.

But yes, I know you do not like Kenny Pickett.;)

[Sea Ray]

I see very little difference between Pickett and Rudolph

[Bob Sheed]

That Josh Allen 50 yard TD run was all kinds of BS. With his little "fake slide." Mahommes does that crap all the time too. It's abuse of the protection that QBs are given and it should be a 15 yard unsportsmanlike when it happens.

Also, Tomlin's Steelers don't really "punt" entire seasons. So I don't see them ever in line to take a top tier QB in the draft. They're going to have to sign a Kirk Cousins type QB, draft a QB in the later rounds, and hope they snag a good one.

That's my objective viewpoint.

My subjective viewpoint is, I love me some Kenny Pickett and Mason Rudolph! By all means, keep rolling with either of them. Love it. :lol:

[SteelSD]

That Josh Allen 50 yard TD run was all kinds of BS. With his little "fake slide." Mahommes does that crap all the time too. It's abuse of the protection that QBs are given and it should be a 15 yard unsportsmanlike when it happens.

Also, Tomlin's Steelers don't really "punt" entire seasons. So I don't see them ever in line to take a top tier QB in the draft. They're going to have to sign a Kirk Cousins type QB, draft a QB in the later rounds, and hope they snag a good one.

That's my objective viewpoint.

My subjective viewpoint is, I love me some Kenny Pickett and Mason Rudolph! By all means, keep rolling with either of them. Love it. :lol:

Yeah, that fake slide is all over the interwebs right now. It's cheap and dangerous on multiple levels- even to opposing QBs, just because of the threat they might be faking too. The rulebook already protects QBs who slide at the point they begin their slide (demonstrating intent), so I thought the play was going to be blown dead, as did Steelers defenders, clearly. After a no call on that, I'm not sure what a defensive player is to do, especially when a QB follows that up with a late slide later in the game.

I'd expect the NFL will consider a rule change in the off-season, but resign myself to believing they'll just "clarify" that the ball is dead at the spot where the QB displays an intent to slide, even if they don't. Agree that it should rate an unsportsmanlike, though.

And I think I'm going to stipulate that I completely understand that all non-Steelers fans hate Kenny Pickett and think Mason Rudolph stinks. There is no longer a need to post it, gang. I KNOW you feel this way.

[Bob Sheed]

And I think I'm going to stipulate that I completely understand that all non-Steelers fans hate Kenny Pickett and think Mason Rudolph stinks. There is no longer a need to post it, gang. I KNOW you feel this way.

Far from it. As a fan, I hated Roethlisberger. If he wasn't undefeated against the Bengals, man it sure seemed like it. But if there is a GoFundMe to ensure either Pickett or Rudolph sign LTC's with the Steelers, I would like to donate.

At the very least, I'm hoping the Steelers think there is no need to find another solution at QB going into next season. They're not stupid though. With that defense, even a Kirk Cousins kind of mid QB would do just fine. I hope it never happens, but I wonder what a guy like Browning (Burrow's replacement) would do in Pittsburgh. No way that either Pickett or Rudolph are one of the top 30 QBs in the league. That alone should warrant a change there. Should be an interesting offseason.

[Todd Gack]

That Josh Allen 50 yard TD run was all kinds of BS. With his little "fake slide." Mahommes does that crap all the time too. It's abuse of the protection that QBs are given and it should be a 15 yard unsportsmanlike when it happens.

Also, Tomlin's Steelers don't really "punt" entire seasons. So I don't see them ever in line to take a top tier QB in the draft. They're going to have to sign a Kirk Cousins type QB, draft a QB in the later rounds, and hope they snag a good one.

That's my objective viewpoint.

My subjective viewpoint is, I love me some Kenny Pickett and Mason Rudolph! By all means, keep rolling with either of them. Love it. :lol:

The only way to fix it is for defenders to start hitting him regardless. The 15 yard penalty and threat of a injury are worth it.

[SteelSD]

Far from it. As a fan, I hated Roethlisberger. If he wasn't undefeated against the Bengals, man it sure seemed like it. But if there is a GoFundMe to ensure either Pickett or Rudolph sign LTC's with the Steelers, I would like to donate.

At the very least, I'm hoping the Steelers think there is no need to find another solution at QB going into next season. They're not stupid though. With that defense, even a Kirk Cousins kind of mid QB would do just fine. I hope it never happens, but I wonder what a guy like Browning (Burrow's replacement) would do in Pittsburgh. No way that either Pickett or Rudolph are one of the top 30 QBs in the league. That alone should warrant a change there. Should be an interesting offseason.

Well, they tried going with a vet prior to drafting Pickett, which landed them Trubisky, so claims of their lack of stupidity may be unfounded.

[WVRed]

The only way to fix it is for defenders to start hitting him regardless. The 15 yard penalty and threat of a injury are worth it.You could apply the same logic to Patrick Mahomes tiptoeing the sideline. Maybe not in the AFC Championship but tee off on him in the regular season doing that.

Of course with Mahomes it's 15 yard penalty and probably a fine and/or suspension.

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[WVRed]

Well, they tried going with a vet prior to drafting Pickett, which landed them Trubisky, so claims of their lack of stupidity may be unfounded.Trubisky was a placeholder, nothing more nothing less. Someone to start and give Pickett time to learn the playbook.

I don't think Steeler fans thought he would be another Ryan Tannehill. I could be wrong.

I think Pickett is mediocre, can't stay healthy, and at best has a Chad Pennington or Andy Dalton ceiling. As RTG said if you don't have a QB you don't have a team. But as long as you guys think he's Joe Burrow 2.0 I'm fine with it. [emoji846]

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[Chip R]

Yeah, that fake slide is all over the interwebs right now. It's cheap and dangerous on multiple levels- even to opposing QBs, just because of the threat they might be faking too. The rulebook already protects QBs who slide at the point they begin their slide (demonstrating intent), so I thought the play was going to be blown dead, as did Steelers defenders, clearly. After a no call on that, I'm not sure what a defensive player is to do, especially when a QB follows that up with a late slide later in the game.

I'd expect the NFL will consider a rule change in the off-season, but resign myself to believing they'll just "clarify" that the ball is dead at the spot where the QB displays an intent to slide, even if they don't. Agree that it should rate an unsportsmanlike, though.

And I think I'm going to stipulate that I completely understand that all non-Steelers fans hate Kenny Pickett and think Mason Rudolph stinks. There is no longer a need to post it, gang. I KNOW you feel this way.

Wasn't it Pickett who did that in college and then they changed the rule because of that? I thought they outlawed that in the NFL too. If they haven't they should. It's tough enough to stop someone like Lamar or Josh Allen but when they fake slide, it's just not fair.

[KoryMac5]

Wasn't it Pickett who did that in college and then they changed the rule because of that? I thought they outlawed that in the NFL too. If they haven't they should. It's tough enough to stop someone like Lamar or Josh Allen but when they fake slide, it's just not fair.

They only penalize the fake slide in college. I do think the NFL will look at it as Tomlin is on the competition committee.

[Sea Ray]

I assume you all are talking about his move at the 42 yard line? I don't think that qualifies as a fake slide. I'm not seeing that


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jz5J5kp_wVU

[SteelSD]

Trubisky was a placeholder, nothing more nothing less. Someone to start and give Pickett time to learn the playbook.

I don't think Steeler fans thought he would be another Ryan Tannehill. I could be wrong.

I think Pickett is mediocre, can't stay healthy, and at best has a Chad Pennington or Andy Dalton ceiling. As RTG said if you don't have a QB you don't have a team. But as long as you guys think he's Joe Burrow 2.0 I'm fine with it. [emoji846]

I STIPULATED DAMMIT!!!

Anyway, after Ben's prime, any vet brought in is going to be a stopgap, because "next" isn't here yet. And yeah, I believe the Steelers absolutely thought Trubisky could do the job. They can be dumb like that. They certainly weren't expecting the level of awful Trubisky ended up representing, nor were they going to pay Kirk Cousins money for a QB, that's for sure. When they saw Pickett fall to their pick, the Steelers almost certainly believed that he was a guy they could sit for a year or two while he learned. They just didn't count on Trubisky's level of suck.

[SteelSD]

Wasn't it Pickett who did that in college and then they changed the rule because of that? I thought they outlawed that in the NFL too. If they haven't they should. It's tough enough to stop someone like Lamar or Josh Allen but when they fake slide, it's just not fair.

Yup, that was Pickett in college, and it was almost immediately outlawed, which I support. It's akin to a much more dangerous version of NBA players jumping sideways into defenders to trick officials into free points, which was finally outlawed (depending on the officials that night, but that's another topic entirely). In the NFL, the moment a slide starts, the ball is supposed to be dead, but apparently no one thought to clarify that it doesn't matter if the slide is actually completed? I dunno. The problem is that if the rules committee doesn't do something about it, the only way to dissuade running QB's from doing it is to hit them so hard they land on the IR...which will, of course, get the player taking the QB's head off a mega-fine and multiple game suspension, which only motivates defenders to NOT do that.

[WVRed]

This is so true:

https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZPRcGcQ8r/

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[Redsfaithful]

I assume you all are talking about his move at the 42 yard line? I don't think that qualifies as a fake slide. I'm not seeing that


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jz5J5kp_wVU

I can see the argument, but it also looks like a hesitation step. I find Mahomes on the sidelines to be more egregious, but then again, as a Bengals fan I guess I would.

[Sea Ray]

I STIPULATED DAMMIT!!!

Anyway, after Ben's prime, any vet brought in is going to be a stopgap, because "next" isn't here yet. And yeah, I believe the Steelers absolutely thought Trubisky could do the job. They can be dumb like that. They certainly weren't expecting the level of awful Trubisky ended up representing, nor were they going to pay Kirk Cousins money for a QB, that's for sure. When they saw Pickett fall to their pick, the Steelers almost certainly believed that he was a guy they could sit for a year or two while he learned. They just didn't count on Trubisky's level of suck.

Yeah, Ben’s successor has to be a stopgap. What do you think this is? Green Bay?


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[RiverfrontRed]

The biggest question is, who is going to be OC? Quarterback is a question mark, but I'm pretty certain on how it's going to be answered. They're going to give Kenny another year. I hope they match him with the right OC and he excels. But I'm not sure he has what it takes. My guess is he doesn't, at this moment.

[Sea Ray]

Their offense looks just fine and dandy when they face the Bengals

[SteelSD]

The biggest question is, who is going to be OC? Quarterback is a question mark, but I'm pretty certain on how it's going to be answered. They're going to give Kenny another year. I hope they match him with the right OC and he excels. But I'm not sure he has what it takes. My guess is he doesn't, at this moment.

He might not. That being said, Before being given the starting nod, Jordan Love got to sit and learn in Green Bay for the same amount of time Pickett has been starting. Not saying the results will be similar in the end, but given the situation I don't have an issue with Steelers seeing if he can figure it out.

And THAT being said, it'll be interesting to see how much voice Tomlin has in selecting the new OC. It's been a massive Achilles heel for him.

[WVRed]

The biggest question is, who is going to be OC? Quarterback is a question mark, but I'm pretty certain on how it's going to be answered. They're going to give Kenny another year. I hope they match him with the right OC and he excels. But I'm not sure he has what it takes. My guess is he doesn't, at this moment.I think Bienemy would be good in Pittsburgh. Pete Carmichael is available too.

Pittsburgh might as well roll with Pickett until his rookie contract is up. Definitely don't pick up the option and reset the rookie contract clock unless he turns into the second coming of Roethlisberger in the meantime.



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[KoryMac5]

Pitts needs a guy for 2 years-3 years as Watt and Fitzpatrick are still unreal as defenders...then you can blow it up and get your franchise guy.

I actually thought Russel Wilson might make sense for them if he gets realistic about his contract demands...

[Redsfaithful]

I'm worried they go get Kirk Cousins or Russel Wilson. The division is already tough enough, don't need that.

[Sea Ray]

I'm worried they go get Kirk Cousins or Russel Wilson. The division is already tough enough, don't need that.

Exactly. That's why us Bengal fans are so supportive of them giving Pickett another year

[Chip R]

I can see the argument, but it also looks like a hesitation step. I find Mahomes on the sidelines to be more egregious, but then again, as a Bengals fan I guess I would.

I saw Mahomes try that in the Buffalo game this year. He did his little pause along the sideline and the Buffalo player didn't bite and just gave him a gentle shove. If the Buffalo player had hit him there most certainly would have been a penalty and it could have turned the tide of the game. I watched the replay of the Bengals Chiefs AFC Championship game last year and saw where the Bengals player got nailed on a similar play. It almost looked like the Bengals guy was tripped as he was going out of bounds and just hit Mahomes by accident. Still, you cannot touch a star QB when they are going out of bounds or just out of bounds.

[WVRed]

Just saw from Schefty where Arthur Smith was interviewed today.

That might be a step down from Matt Canada.

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[Sea Ray]

What say you Steeler fans?

https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1752399382014484500?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5 Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1752399382014484500%7Ctwgr% 5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=

[WVRed]

What say you Steeler fans?

https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1752399382014484500?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5 Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1752399382014484500%7Ctwgr% 5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=From what I've read pretty lukewarm. That could change if he brings Mike Munchak back with him.

The decision to hire Smith was not made to accommodate Kenny Pickett. Smith runs a high play action low shotgun offense where Pickett is used to running the opposite.

Najee Harris may be the biggest beneficiary but Smith did kinda forget he had Bijan Robinson at RB at times last year.

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[SteelSD]

Pittsburgh is clearly banking on Smith's time with the Titans being representative of what they're getting. I think that the Smith hire better be followed by a major committment to improving the offensive line, or it's got the potential to go sideways. As WV mentioned, if Munchak is attached, things look better. But if they try (again) to implement a zone blocking scheme, I'd caution fans against thinking that's going to work with the current O-line. The Steelers tried that and had to reverse course because the personnel isn't right for it. Warren is fine with that scheme, but Najee Harris, who is decidedly NOT Travis Henry, looked lost.

[WVRed]

Pittsburgh is clearly banking on Smith's time with the Titans being representative of what they're getting. I think that the Smith hire better be followed by a major committment to improving the offensive line, or it's got the potential to go sideways. As WV mentioned, if Munchak is attached, things look better. But if they try (again) to implement a zone blocking scheme, I'd caution fans against thinking that's going to work with the current O-line. The Steelers tried that and had to reverse course because the personnel isn't right for it. Warren is fine with that scheme, but Najee Harris, who is decidedly NOT Travis Henry, looked lost.Looks like they want to bring Tannehill in to compete with Pickett.

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[plantmanky]

Looks like they want to bring Tannehill in to compete with Pickett.

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Thats not an upgrade.

[WVRed]

Thats not an upgrade.It's not like they can trade up for one of the big three in the draft.

Tannehill can push Pickett and knows the offense Smith wants to run.

Not to mention he will have better weapons than he is leaving at Tennessee except maybe RB.

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[plantmanky]

It's not like they can trade up for one of the big three in the draft.

Tannehill can push Pickett and knows the offense Smith wants to run.

Not to mention he will have better weapons than he is leaving at Tennessee except maybe RB.

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The only thing Tannehill can push is ice hot and pain pills.

[RiverfrontRed]

A. Wilson, B. Fields, C. Tannehill.......... or D. more of Pickett/Rudolph.

I list them in order of preference (with C. and D. about the same).

[goreds2]

The Buffalo Bills have signed veteran quarterback Mitch Trubisky to a two-year deal, the team announced on Thursday (March 7).

Trubisky, who spent the past two seasons with the Pittsburgh Steelers, was released last month, which allowed him to sign with a team prior to the official beginning of free agency next week. The 29-year-old had previously spent the 2021 season with the Bills as a backup to franchise quarterback Josh Allen.

https://700wlw.iheart.com/content/2024-03-07-mitch-trubisky-signs-with-super-bowl-contender/

[SteelSD]

Speaking of the Bills, their former center, Mitch Morse is scheduled to visit Pittsburgh. Morse, a Bills cap casualty this offseason, would be a solid signing to stabilize the position while also allowing Pittsburgh to target other positions of need (ILB, CB, OT, maybe WR) in the draft.

Russell Wilson is also in for a visit, maybe as soon as today. Denver's going to be on the hook for his entire contract, so a team can sign him at the vet minimum, or close to it. That's super tempting.

[WVRed]

Speaking of the Bills, their former center, Mitch Morse is scheduled to visit Pittsburgh. Morse, a Bills cap casualty this offseason, would be a solid signing to stabilize the position while also allowing Pittsburgh to target other positions of need (ILB, CB, OT, maybe WR) in the draft.

Russell Wilson is also in for a visit, maybe as soon as today. Denver's going to be on the hook for his entire contract, so a team can sign him at the vet minimum, or close to it. That's super tempting.Thought I read the Steelers were going to go with Pickett and Rudolph.

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[SteelSD]

Thought I read the Steelers were going to go with Pickett and Rudolph.

It's the offseason, so if you wait five minutes, it'll change. Multiple times.

[RiverRat13]

Arthur Smith's passing attack asks his QBs to attack the middle of the field and Russ flat out can't do that. However, getting him at the league minimum may be too tempting. He can still throw the go ball and the Steelers have guys who can go get it.

[SteelSD]

Arthur Smith's passing attack asks his QBs to attack the middle of the field and Russ flat out can't do that. However, getting him at the league minimum may be too tempting. He can still throw the go ball and the Steelers have guys who can go get it.

Reportedly, Wilson talked with Smith "for hours" and was super happy. But who knows how much of that is real. I'd normally suspect that it might be someone's camp trying to up his market/price, but given that Wilson's bag is already guaranteed, I'm more prone to believing it.

[SteelSD]

Well, Pittsburgh reportedly is signing Wilson to a 1-year 1.2M deal. They've got him, now they need to figure out what to do with him.

[plantmanky]

Well, Pittsburgh reportedly is signing Wilson to a 1-year 1.2M deal. They've got him, now they need to figure out what to do with him.

Love it Pittsburg guarantying themselves a losing season.

[SteelSD]

Love it Pittsburg guarantying themselves a losing season.

Ok, then name a QB the Steelers should have targetted that would have A) fit within their cap and B) guaranteed them a winning season. Go for it.

[RiverRat13]

Russ has his limitations but I can't blame the Steelers signing him for the league minimum. That means they can keep/acquire talent elsewhere to mitigate Russ' shortcomings.

[KoryMac5]

I like the signing...as long as Russ doesn't freelance and understands Smith's offense. I thought in spots last season he was good in Denver but with a new regime the writing was on the wall for him. He's not a turnover machine and can manage a game and allow the Defense to win them games which is what they needed. He still throws a nice deep ball his issue though is he holds onto it a bit long which generates some bad sacks.

It's a good signing when you consider the cost...

[RichRed]

Russ is an upgrade over Pickett, even if he’s only there for a year, so the Steelers got better as a team with this move. Plus it cost them virtually nothing. What’s not to like? Other than me feeling gross for saying something nice about the Steelers, I mean.

[Bob Sheed]

Russ is an upgrade to Kenny, no question.

I was hoping they would stick with the hometown kid out of loyalty. I think Russ was a bad fit in Denver, but I suspect Kenny is a bad fit anywhere.

He doesn't exactly fit the prototype for a Pittsburgh Steeler, but he does still have plenty of offseason time to get all roided up and maybe hit up an exhibition game somewhere to trip someone from the sidelines. :dunno:

[plantmanky]

Ok, then name a QB the Steelers should have targetted that would have A) fit within their cap and B) guaranteed them a winning season. Go for it.

The one on their roster already.

[plantmanky]

Russ has his limitations but I can't blame the Steelers signing him for the league minimum. That means they can keep/acquire talent elsewhere to mitigate Russ' shortcomings.

I agree with this but you also said with this signing that they need to draft a qb in 2025, if not 2024.

[Slyder]

Ok, then name a QB the Steelers should have targetted that would have A) fit within their cap and B) guaranteed them a winning season. Go for it.

Its the Steelers... Season Starts... Some good stuff happens... Some bad stuff happens... At the end of the day they're usually on the positive side of the W/L record.

[WVRed]

I like the signing...as long as Russ doesn't freelance and understands Smith's offense. I thought in spots last season he was good in Denver but with a new regime the writing was on the wall for him. He's not a turnover machine and can manage a game and allow the Defense to win them games which is what they needed. He still throws a nice deep ball his issue though is he holds onto it a bit long which generates some bad sacks.

It's a good signing when you consider the cost...For this to work Pittsburgh needs to really invest in the offensive line. They got Broderick Jones last year and this year is a good draft for OL with a couple of centers available late first round.

He is an upgrade over Pickett. As long as he isn't trying to be "the guy" and just takes care of the ball and let's the defense do it's thing it could pay off. He could easily be this years Baker Mayfield.

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[SteelSD]

Steelers reportedly will sign former Raven ILB Patrick Queen to a 3-year/41 million dollar contract. That's another solid signing, and will allow Pittsburgh to focus on other positions of need in the draft (Center, CB, OT, DL).

[WVRed]

They just traded Diontae Johnson to Carolina for basically a pick swap. Moving from 240 to 178.

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[SteelSD]

They just traded Diontae Johnson to Carolina for basically a pick swap. Moving from 240 to 178.

It was probably a 50/50 flip whether Johnson would make it to the regular season; has both contract and behavioral issues that popped up. Along with the 6th-for-7th round pick swap, the Steelers received CB Donte Jackson. I don't know a ton about Jackson, other than he suffered an achilles injury a couple years ago. He did start 16 games for Carolina last year, so that might be the CB move we've been waiting for. Jackson is a bit on the expensive side, it looks like, so who knows how that plays out. Now I need to move up WR as a draft need I guess.

Uncharacteristically active offseason for the Steelers- sign a QB and a Punter, then the deal for a CB.

[WVRed]

Steelers just sent Pickett to the Eagles in a pick swap.

He asked to be traded when they signed Russ.

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[Tony Cloninger]

If they can win with Mitch and Pickett they sure can with Wilson. Since that 1989 season when they started 0-2 and got out scored 10-92 and still made the playoffs with the most negative point differential and yardage difference imaginable. They put the ugly in winning ugly when their offense is down prehistoric and terrible. They will win with a defense and letting other teams F themselves. Like the 2022 opener in Cincinnati or the first Baltimore game last year.

[Bob Sheed]

Steelers just sent Pickett to the Eagles in a pick swap.

He asked to be traded when they signed Russ.

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Noooooooooo

[WVRed]

If they can win with Mitch and Pickett they sure can with Wilson. Since that 1989 season when they started 0-2 and got out scored 10-92 and still made the playoffs with the most negative point differential and yardage difference imaginable. They put the ugly in winning ugly when their offense is down prehistoric and terrible. They will win with a defense and letting other teams F themselves. Like the 2022 opener in Cincinnati or the first Baltimore game last year.Russ is basically going to be Ryan Tannehill in Smith's offense. Do enough not to lose.

That said, hes on a prove it deal and it kinda makes you wonder if the Steelers could look at a QB (Bo Nix) first round.

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[WVRed]

Fields to Steelers for a conditional 2025 pick.

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[SteelSD]

Well, this is one interesting offseason. Not a big fan of Fields if he were coming in as the starter, and we'll have to see how his contract plays out because his fifth year option is untenable (25+ million). We'll now on or by May 2nd. But, for now, he's an affordable backup for a 6th rounder that's unlikely to turn into a fourth unless Wilson gets hurt for an extended period of time.

As for Pickett...what a Milo that guy turned out to be. First, the refusal to suit up for the Seahawks game last year. Then to demand a trade after you've shown nothing but glimpses of promise while you're in a situation where you may only have to be the #2 for a year (or less, potentially) while learning from a vet QB like Wilson? That's beyond delusional. He should have been more careful with what he wished for, because if he thinks that he's going to get more opportunity to play with Jalen Hurts starting in front of him, he's nuts.

[goreds2]

“ Although Fields' salary this year is $3.233 million, they'll have to decide by May 2 whether to exercise his fifth-year option to the tune of $25.664 million. “

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/other/new-steelers-cornerback-earns-more-than-justin-fields-russell-wilson-combined/ar-BB1k2Al1

[WVRed]

Well, this is one interesting offseason. Not a big fan of Fields if he were coming in as the starter, and we'll have to see how his contract plays out because his fifth year option is untenable (25+ million). We'll now on or by May 2nd. But, for now, he's an affordable backup for a 6th rounder that's unlikely to turn into a fourth unless Wilson gets hurt for an extended period of time.

As for Pickett...what a Milo that guy turned out to be. First, the refusal to suit up for the Seahawks game last year. Then to demand a trade after you've shown nothing but glimpses of promise while you're in a situation where you may only have to be the #2 for a year (or less, potentially) while learning from a vet QB like Wilson? That's beyond delusional. He should have been more careful with what he wished for, because if he thinks that he's going to get more opportunity to play with Jalen Hurts starting in front of him, he's nuts.

I think this is sadly our new generation coming home to roost.

We've seen it in high school but moreso college. The days of riding the bench and working in practice to get better are done and over. Instead of competing for a spot or learning from a veteran (which Pickett could probably learn from Russ), they transfer out or ask for a trade to find a better opportunity.

The only way Pickett sees the field in Philly is if Jalen Hurts gets, well, hurt. And that could very well happen. Either way, Pickett is Chad Pennington 2.0. Probably better suited as a career backup QB.

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[bucksfan2]

Do you trade for Fields if you don't expect to pick up the 5th year? As much as I would hate to see it in Pitt, I hope Fields gets a shot with a competent organization. I don't know how much Russ has left in the tank, and while Fields wasn't great in Chicago, he was far from the reason the Bears were awful during his tenure.

[WVRed]

Do you trade for Fields if you don't expect to pick up the 5th year? As much as I would hate to see it in Pitt, I hope Fields gets a shot with a competent organization. I don't know how much Russ has left in the tank, and while Fields wasn't great in Chicago, he was far from the reason the Bears were awful during his tenure.Id imagine the fifth year option isn't happening.

Best case scenario for Fields (not the Steelers) is that Russ gets hurt or is ineffective and Tomlin/Smith are able to get out of him what the Bears couldn't. After the season when he's a FA he could then cash into a better payday aka Baker Mayfield.

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[Sea Ray]

Do you trade for Fields if you don't expect to pick up the 5th year? As much as I would hate to see it in Pitt, I hope Fields gets a shot with a competent organization. I don't know how much Russ has left in the tank, and while Fields wasn't great in Chicago, he was far from the reason the Bears were awful during his tenure.

My guess is that the plan is to draft their QB of the future, maybe Bo Nix

[WVRed]

My guess is that the plan is to draft their QB of the future, maybe Bo NixI thought and suggested that earlier in this thread but that was before they traded for Fields.

I mean they still could...

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[RiverfrontRed]

Do you trade for Fields if you don't expect to pick up the 5th year? As much as I would hate to see it in Pitt, I hope Fields gets a shot with a competent organization. I don't know how much Russ has left in the tank, and while Fields wasn't great in Chicago, he was far from the reason the Bears were awful during his tenure.

They can do a one year extension in lieu of the 5th year option, for a reduced "prove it" amount. It's exactly what the Packers did with Jordan Love. Worked out well for them. Khan is pretty creative so I think he'll figure it out.

[Kingspoint]

The Steelers have really put together a strong off-season.

Right now it looks like the teams could all go 3-3 in Division play. Bengals get the benefit of a last-place schedule while BAL has to have a 1st-place schedule.

I think two teams will finish 11-6 and the other two finish 10-7, with 3 or 4 teams making the playoffs.

Don't think the Chiefs win their Division (games were handed to them by the refs last season).

Don't think Buffalo wins their Division.

[WVRed]

They just signed Cordarelle Patterson to be the kick returner. With the rule changes they have jumped on it.

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[SteelSD]

Steelers draft recap:

1 (20): T Troy Fautanu, Washington
2 (51): C Zach Frazier, West Virginia
3 (84): WR Roman Wilson, Michigan
3 (97): LB Payton Wilson, NC State
4 (119): G Mason McCormick, South Dakota State
6 (178): DI Logan Lee, Iowa
6 (195): CB Ryan Watts, Texas

PFF loves this draft, giving in an A+ score: https://www.pff.com/news/draft-2024-nfl-draft-grades-all-32-teams?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter#PIT

Clearly, the Steelers had massive opportunities on the offensive line last season. The much-needed rebuild started during last year's draft with the selection of rookie Broderick Jones (LT), who began anchoring the right side during starting with game five last season. The veteran guards (Isaac Seumalo, James Daniels) were fine, but RT Dan Moore simply can't pass block consistently, and center Mason Cole- released this offseason- was terrible. Center was such a glaring need that a ton of Steelers fans rooted for the selection of Graham Barton in the first round, but grabbing Fautanu after a mini-slide was just a perfect pick. Not sure if Dan Moore will immediately be replaced and the Steelers still need to figure out the RT/LF combination when Moore is finally, mercifully, benched. But that's a fine problem to have.

However, the Fautanu selection meant giving up on Barton and after much nail-biting during the second round, Zach Frazier- potentially the last of the plug-and-play centers in the draft- fell into the Steelers' lap at slot #51. Whew! Rounding out the O-Line focus was the round-four selection of SDSU Jackrabbit guard Mason McCormick, who PFF graded out as the top guard in the draft. McCormick, if as advertised, is likely a "futures" pick to replace James Daniels after this season. He might wear a hat throughout the season though as he can play all interior line positions, including backing up center.

Not sexy picks, but absolutely what was needed.

Speaking of needed, Pittsburgh is short on wideouts after dealing Dionte Johnson, so they attempted to address that with the selection of slot receiver Roman Wilson in round 3. Not sure if I'm sold. Wilson separates well, ran a sub 4.40 40-yard, isn't plagued by drops, but broke only 9 tackles during his college career and his catch radius is limited. He does run block, but at only 5'11"- 185 lbs., I'm not sure how well that translates to the NFL. Just not sure that's the kind of upside you want with a day two selection. However, Pittsburgh's second day two selection- LB Peyton Wilson- is all upside. Highest raw athletic scoring among draftable linebackers. The question is whether his body will hold up over time. Already having two ACL surgeries (one leaving him without an ACL) isn't a great injury history, which is why a 4.43/40-yard speed sideline-to-sideline backer lasts until late in the third round. His tape is unreal.

The two guys I haven't talked about- DT/DE Logan Lee and DB Ryan Watts are your usual late-draft "hope" picks. As in, the Steelers hope Lee develops into Aaron Smith or Brett Keisel type rather than another Isaiahh Loudermilk. Watts is listed as a CB, but his size (6'3", 208 lbs.) and lack of straight-line speed (4.53 40-yard) will probably necessitate a move to safety, which is fine as that's a thin position.

Overall, I don't think I agree with the PFF "A+" grade (I'd drop it to a B+), but a very solid draft for anyone who was looking for a ramp-up on the O-line rebuild, which is exactly what they got.

[RedTeamGo!]

Peyton Wilson could easily be the next great Steelers LB.

Ryan Watts is bad.

[RiverfrontRed]

This draft class is rated in the top 5 of just about every analyst's rankings. I concur. Now all these guys have to do is back it up on the field. I especially love the top 5 picks. I'll reserve judgment on the 2 6th rounders.

[goreds2]

According to NFL reporter Jordan Schultz, the (Christmas) showdown between the Chiefs and Steelers will be broadcast only on Netflix.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/steelers-vs-chiefs-on-christmas-day-to-be-netflix-broadcast/ar-BB1mrcsY

[Bob Sheed]

And the high seas.

[goreds2]

2024 schedule:

https://fbschedules.com/2024-pittsburgh-steelers-schedule/

[SteelSD]

2024 schedule:

https://fbschedules.com/2024-pittsburgh-steelers-schedule/

Welp, I always wanted to know how a team's schedule would turn out if the scheduler was on a heavy dose of ketamine. Now I know.

[Kingspoint]

To get two long-time Starters in the same draft for the O-Line (about to post about Jim Otto's passing) is a great feat. Both were excellent picks.

[Slyder]

Welp, I always wanted to know how a team's schedule would turn out if the scheduler was on a heavy dose of ketamine. Now I know.

When you know like 12/14 of the 17 teams before the season even begins, it makes it pretty easy to see who has a rough time regardless in advance based on the previous season.

[Kingspoint]

I couldn't believe the Bengals luck when the Steelers hired the IQ-deficient Arthur Smith to run their Offense.

But, this makes a lot more sense.

June 26th, 2024 at 2:31pm CST by Sam Robinson

The Steelers opted for an outside OC hire, adding Arthur Smith, but both halves of their interim setup from last season — Eddie Faulkner and Mike Sullivan — remain with the team. Sullivan drew OC interest elsewhere, after calling the plays for a Mason Rudolph-led offense that ended up in the playoffs, but he is in place as a Steelers senior offensive assistant. Faulkner remains the team’s RBs coach. Smith should be considered likely to include the duo in his game plans, per The Athletic’s Mark Kaboly, who adds ousted OC Matt Canada was not known for a collaborative approach. Canada did not receive input from staffers especially well, Kaboly notes, before becoming the historically rare Steelers assistant fired in-season.

Trusting your Offense to Arthur Smith is like trusting your base-running to the REDS' 3rd Base Coach. There's going to be a lot of bone-headed decisions made.

[RiverfrontRed]

I couldn't believe the Bengals luck when the Steelers hired the IQ-deficient Arthur Smith to run their Offense.

But, this makes a lot more sense.

June 26th, 2024 at 2:31pm CST by Sam Robinson

The Steelers opted for an outside OC hire, adding Arthur Smith, but both halves of their interim setup from last season — Eddie Faulkner and Mike Sullivan — remain with the team. Sullivan drew OC interest elsewhere, after calling the plays for a Mason Rudolph-led offense that ended up in the playoffs, but he is in place as a Steelers senior offensive assistant. Faulkner remains the team’s RBs coach. Smith should be considered likely to include the duo in his game plans, per The Athletic’s Mark Kaboly, who adds ousted OC Matt Canada was not known for a collaborative approach. Canada did not receive input from staffers especially well, Kaboly notes, before becoming the historically rare Steelers assistant fired in-season.

Trusting your Offense to Arthur Smith is like trusting your base-running to the REDS' 3rd Base Coach. There's going to be a lot of bone-headed decisions made.

He did an excellent job as OC for the Titans. He just may not be HC material.

[bounty37h]

I am. I was born and raised n North Carolina but my family is from Ohio before I was born. They also lived in Pittsburgh before moving to NC the year before I was born. I was dressed in Steeler gear as a baby so never knew anything else. My Reds fandom didn't start until I was 9 or 10, I had watched the Baseball Bunch when I was a kid and my dad wanted to me to find a favorite team with history (he was a Tigers fan btu wanted me to pick another team) so I picked the Reds and stuck with them. I def follow the Reds and am much more hardcore about them than the Steelers, which is funny as their success rate has been such a different path (I'm more baseball than football or other sports anyways)....

[Kingspoint]

He did an excellent job as OC for the Titans. He just may not be HC material.

But, he made the disastrous Offensive decisions in Atlanta. He was definitely responsibile for the mind-boggling choices that went on there.

[RiverfrontRed]

But, he made the disastrous Offensive decisions in Atlanta. He was definitely responsibile for the mind-boggling choices that went on there.

HC and OC is not the same as OC. It's just not. I'm willing to be optimistic, but I hope his leash isn't as long as Canada's.

[Kingspoint]

HC and OC is not the same as OC. It's just not. I'm willing to be optimistic, but I hope his leash isn't as long as Canada's.

Correct. That's why they have different names. But, each is different with every situation with every organization and Arthur Smith was definitely responsible for the mind-boggling choices that went on there concerning their Offense.

[RiverfrontRed]

Correct. That's why they have different names. But, each is different with every situation with every organization and Arthur Smith was definitely responsible for the mind-boggling choices that went on there concerning their Offense.

At least it's not Canada. I was hoping for one of the younger QB coaches, but I think they wanted someone with experience.

[Kingspoint]

At least it's not Canada. I was hoping for one of the younger QB coaches, but I think they wanted someone with experience.

I think they've got a great mix, well-balanced. They also had another very good draft, especially with the O-Line.

[RiverfrontRed]

I think they've got a great mix, well-balanced. They also had another very good draft, especially with the O-Line.

I love both last year's and this year's draft. Getting back to Steelers football up front.

[goreds2]

Texans at Steelers tonight at 7pm est. on NFL Network.

[RiverfrontRed]

Texans at Steelers tonight at 7pm est. on NFL Network.

I'm looking forward to seeing what Fields brings to the table. Also hoping to see a good performance from the O line.

[RiverfrontRed]

So I'm a little worried about the offense and the QB in particular. It's hard to judge in the preseason. I'd just like to see some rhythm established before they pull Wilson tomorrow.

[SteelSD]

So I'm a little worried about the offense and the QB in particular. It's hard to judge in the preseason. I'd just like to see some rhythm established before they pull Wilson tomorrow.

Much better start today.

And Nick Herbig is an animal.

[RiverfrontRed]

Much better start today.

And Nick Herbig is an animal.

It's good to end the preseason on a high note. Looking forward to Atlanta.

[Kingspoint]

Russell Wilson sucks. They need to stop overthinking this. Play someone with some potential. Play Fields and let Fields make his mistakes. When he gets hurt, or as a good development strategy, play Kyle Allen. If they both get hurt, which could easily happen, play Russell Wilson. But, never suit up Wilson as long as both Fields and Allen are available on gameday. If Russell Wilson doesn't like it, too bad. Wilson has a crappy attitude when it comes to off-season preparedness as a professional, which is why he's as bad as he is right now and has been the last few years.

As a Bengals fan, play Russell Wilson as much as possible. As a supporter of a team doing the best it can for itself, Russell Wilson should be cut from the team. He's a terrible example for others as a player and as a professional. He's the opposite of what the Pittsburgh Steelers represent as far as being the best football player you can be. His presence on the team is a huge negative and will make itself a greater negative impact every day he's on the roster.

[SteelSD]

Russell Wilson sucks. They need to stop outthinking this. Play someone with some potential. Play Fields and let Fields make his mistakes. When he gets hurt, or as a good development strategy, play Kyle Allen. If they both get hurt, which could easily happen, play Russell Wilson. But, never suit up Wilson as long as both Fields and Allen are available on gameday. If Russell Wilson doesn't like it, too bad. Wilson has a crappy attitude when it comes to off-season preparedness as a professional, which is why he's as bad as he is right now and has been the last few years.

As a Bengals fan, play Russell Wilson as much as possible. As a supporter of a team doing the best it can for itself, Russell Wilson should be cut from the team. He's a terrible example for others as a player and as a professional. He's the opposite of what the Pittsburgh Steelers represent as far as being the best football player you can be. His presence on the team is a huge negative and will make itself a greater negative impact every day he's on the roster.

https://www.steelers.com/legal/contact-us/

[RiverfrontRed]

Russell Wilson sucks. They need to stop overthinking this. Play someone with some potential. Play Fields and let Fields make his mistakes. When he gets hurt, or as a good development strategy, play Kyle Allen. If they both get hurt, which could easily happen, play Russell Wilson. But, never suit up Wilson as long as both Fields and Allen are available on gameday. If Russell Wilson doesn't like it, too bad. Wilson has a crappy attitude when it comes to off-season preparedness as a professional, which is why he's as bad as he is right now and has been the last few years.

As a Bengals fan, play Russell Wilson as much as possible. As a supporter of a team doing the best it can for itself, Russell Wilson should be cut from the team. He's a terrible example for others as a player and as a professional. He's the opposite of what the Pittsburgh Steelers represent as far as being the best football player you can be. His presence on the team is a huge negative and will make itself a greater negative impact every day he's on the roster.
Whether he plays well this year or not, your statement in bold is simply not true. He is one of the most thorough off-season preparers. This is well documented.

[Kingspoint]

Whether he plays well this year or not, your statement in bold is simply not true. He is one of the most thorough off-season preparers. This is well documented.

It's well documented that Wilson is a terrible off-season preparer. Where do you get your bad information?

[Kingspoint]

Boneheaded decision:


Steelers Name Russell Wilson QB Starter

August 28th, 2024 at 12:45pm CST by Sam Robinson

Russell Wilson faced a challenge from his pole-position spot, but the veteran will hold off Justin Fields. The Steelers will go with the 13th-year passer to open the season, Fox Sports’ Jay Glazer reports. The Steelers have since announced it will be Wilson in Week 1. The Steelers went to some lengths to assure Wilson he would be the starter. This was communicated to the decorated veteran before the Kenny Pickett trade and then after the team acquired Fields. While the latter has made a push that indicates this situation is not resolved from a long-term perspective, Fields will begin his Pittsburgh tenure as a backup. Fields was believed to have supporters in the building, as the Steelers went about adjusting his footwork from his Bears days. Rather than name a starter before the third preseason game, Mike Tomlin waited until midway through the Steelers’ final week of summer workouts. This does not suggest Wilson will have a firm grip here, despite the early-offseason buzz about this job, but the 35-year-old passer will soon make his 189th career start.

https://www.profootballrumors.com/2024/08/steelers-name-russell-wilson-qb-starter


Bad for the Steelers. Great for the Bengals. Guarantees that the Steelers will finish last in the Division and will probably finish the season with a worse record than last season, below .500. Not smart Tomlin. Your job isn't that safe to place it in the hands of Russell Wilson.


Let's look at how the Steelers schedule begins.

Week 1 PIT @ ATL Big fat loss. Interceptions by both Jesse Bates AND Justin Simmons

https://www.ajc.com/sports/atlanta-falcons/heres-the-falcons-plan-to-blend-justin-simmons-jessie-bates-in-the-secondary/U2UDTCKA4ZGRNP2XH6NPOQ2FEY/


Week 2 PIT @ DEN Big fat loss. Sean Payton will confuse, confound and contort Wilson into three turnovers, holding any Russell Wilson led drives to a total of less than 10 points on the day. He's going to remind him hard that's you can't exist in the NFL as a completely unprepared Quarterback riding the coattails of a former Coach's coddling who his his weaknesses well. The unprofessionalism of Wilson will have him crying (if he actually cared, but since he doesn't, he'll laugh it off and give excuse after excuse in the post-game presser).

Who's going to be more motivated to win this game? Sean Payton or Russell Wilson? 100% of the money is on Payton.


Week 3 LAC @ PIT Even with the most improved Offensive Line in the NFL, Wilson, who holds the ball longer than any Quarterback in the NFL, will ask that Line to do too much. Kahlil Mack and Joey Bosa are going to be licking their chops. The only thing that will prevent that D-Line from gettting more than 4 sacks is the attempt by Tomlin to turn the game into a ball-control affair. PIT has the wrong Quarterback for this as this requires a Quarterback who can sustain drives either by Running for a 3rd Down or completing a clutch 3rd-down throw to the right Receiver. Wilson can do neither. Harbaugh will demonstrate how it's done with Justin Herbert completing 3rd Down attempts at a high percentage and turning this game into another blowout to start the season for the Steelers, 3 double-digit losses to begin the year under Wilson, while wasting a golden opportunity to have Fields get his experience in the Pittsburgh Offense and with the Pittsburgh Starting unit before attrition begins to take away some of these Starters due to injury.


Week 4 PIT @ IND On the Road again. PIT will try once again to limit Wilson's throws, trying to keep him under 20 dropbacks for the game. IND is not going with the Veteran Flacco (who is 1000 times better than Wilson at this point in their careers), but instead doing what any intelligent organization would be doing,...developing the Quarterback who has the most upside and who should be the Starting Quarterback for at least two seasons (though in Richardson's case, more). They will also be facing again a team that is run-first with Jonathan Taylor, but the Colts also have a Quarterback who can run the ball and extend drives. The Colts will be competing for a Divison Title. The Steelers won't be. This is a must win at home for the Colts in order for them to make the playoffs and/or Win their Division. This is a must win for the Steelers or their 2024 season's chances of making the playoffs are over. Colts win at home.


PIT goes home for Week 5 to face DAL on Sunday Night Football with a huge decision to make....try to save the season by switching Quarterbacks or let the 0-4 Russell Wilson face Micah Parsons. Why delay the inevitable?

PIT's final 8 games are their 6 Division games with KCC and PHI thrown in just for the fun of it. Before facing this gauntlet of games, they should probably let Fields start during the 4-game stretch of OAK/NYJ/NYG/WAS. Benching Wilson at Halftime of the Sunday Night DAL game with PIT losing 20-3 might be a good time to introduce Fields to the hometown Steelers fans and waive good-bye to Wilson.

[RiverfrontRed]

Boneheaded decision:



I realize that you are a true Wilson hater. I have a much more optimistic view. If RW can recapture his mid-career form with the Seahawks, he'll lead the team to 11-12 victories. If not, you put Fields in and see what he's got. It was far from boneheaded.

- - - Updated - - -


It's well documented that Wilson is a terrible off-season preparer. Where do you get your bad information?

Better places than you.

[bucksfan2]

I realize that you are a true Wilson hater. I have a much more optimistic view. If RW can recapture his mid-career form with the Seahawks, he'll lead the team to 11-12 victories. If not, you put Fields in and see what he's got. It was far from boneheaded.

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Better places than you.

Russ is 35 years old, relied on his athletic ability a lot in his prime. I just don't see him reverting to his mid-career form. Thats a big ask.

I don't know if Fields will ever be a consistent NFL passer. But he does have that ability to scare opposing defenses because he can turn a sack into a 40 yard run in the blink of a eye.

[Sea Ray]

I realize that you are a true Wilson hater. I have a much more optimistic view. If RW can recapture his mid-career form with the Seahawks, he'll lead the team to 11-12 victories. If not, you put Fields in and see what he's got. It was far from boneheaded.

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Better places than you.

He's not the only Russ hater. Denver must hate him an awful lot to be willing to take an $80mill cap hit to get him out of the building. Think about that

I suspect he will be hated in Pittsburgh before this year is over...possibly by the end of Sept. Living in the Pacific NW, KP knows Russ. He knows what he's talking about. You Steer fans are just starting to get to know him

[SteelSD]

Russ is 35 years old, relied on his athletic ability a lot in his prime. I just don't see him reverting to his mid-career form. Thats a big ask.

I don't know if Fields will ever be a consistent NFL passer. But he does have that ability to scare opposing defenses because he can turn a sack into a 40 yard run in the blink of a eye.

Meh. KP is just playing his wild prediction schtick. And yeah, pretty much every Steelers fan knows they have question marks at QB right now, which is why they got both Wilson and Fields for pennies on the dollar. Such is often life after a franchise QB retires. Of more interest to me is the glaring hole at WR2 and health concerns on the O-Line. RT Broderick Jones is banged up- affecting his play in the preseason (he was terrible), and G Issac Seumalo will miss at least a month with a pec injury. They'll likely be starting two rookies there (Frazier at C, Mason McCormick at G), and possibly a third (Fautanu at RT) if Jones doesn't get himself right soon.

[goreds2]

Steelers 1pm game on Sunday vs Atlanta will be on Fox28 Columbus, Ohio.

[RiverfrontRed]

He's not the only Russ hater. Denver must hate him an awful lot to be willing to take an $80mill cap hit to get him out of the building. Think about that

I suspect he will be hated in Pittsburgh before this year is over...possibly by the end of Sept. Living in the Pacific NW, KP knows Russ. He knows what he's talking about. You Steer fans are just starting to get to know him

Why do I need to think about what the Broncos and Sean Payton think? I'm still waiting for Payton to win something without Drew Brees. If he plays well, great. If he doesn't they're out pocket change. The way it's looking today, Fields may start against the Falcons. If he plays well and the Steelers win, Wilson may not even see the field.

[Sea Ray]

Why do I need to think about what the Broncos and Sean Payton think? I'm still waiting for Payton to win something without Drew Brees. If he plays well, great. If he doesn't they're out pocket change. The way it's looking today, Fields may start against the Falcons. If he plays well and the Steelers win, Wilson may not even see the field.

I agree it's worth a flier. You got little to lose. Just don't get your hopes up that he's the answer

[RiverfrontRed]

I agree it's worth a flier. You got little to lose. Just don't get your hopes up that he's the answer

I only have hopes that one of the two will provide top 15 QB play. With that level, I see them winning 11-12 games if they stay healthy. If Russ plays as well as he did last year, I'll be happy(er).

[Sea Ray]

I only have hopes that one of the two will provide top 15 QB play. With that level, I see them winning 11-12 games if they stay healthy. If Russ plays as well as he did last year, I'll be happy(er).

Those are some pretty lofty hopes. They ranked 21 & 22 last year. This year Wilson is projected to be 24th. If he turns out to be better than Trevor Lawrence and Kirk Cousins (both ranked above Wilson but below #15) then the Steelers are golden

I know it's not in the Steelers DNA to tank but were I a Steeler fan, I'd root for a bad season so I could finally get a shot at a top notch QB in the draft. I'm talking mildly bad, like 2003 which notched you Big Ben. As a Bengal fan, I root for the Steelers to be mediocre, about 8-9 wins. That keeps 'em in a position to draft Kenny Pickett but not enough to really solve their QB problem.

Russ is not your future. Fields as your future is possible but not likely

https://www.nfl.com/news/nfl-qb-index-week-1-ranking-all-32-starters-entering-2024-season

[Tony Cloninger]

It’s a lot easier rooting for the Steelers. You can play bad. Incompetent. Yet know they will still win ugly. The Bengals do not win ugly. They never have a tough enough defense to do so. Just enough to look good and not be blamed while not knowing how to tackle. The Steelers also wait for other teams to piss on themselves. Like the first Browns and Ravens games last year.

[Kingspoint]

I told you they needed to Start Fields. He put scoring drive after scoring drive after scoring drive together all day long. 60% of his drives led to scores. He was able to lead the Steelers to 50% more Time-of-Possession than the Falcons had.

Now they have a 1-game lead over every other team in the Division and the right Quarterback in charge. Hopefully, Tomlin doesn't get stupid and Start Wilson as Fields develops and learns this Offense.

[RiverfrontRed]

1-0, while the other three teams in the division are 0-1.

[SteelSD]

I told you they needed to Start Fields. He put scoring drive after scoring drive after scoring drive together all day long. 60% of his drives led to scores. He was able to lead the Steelers to 50% more Time-of-Possession than the Falcons had.

Now they have a 1-game lead over every other team in the Division and the right Quarterback in charge. Hopefully, Tomlin doesn't get stupid and Start Wilson as Fields develops and learns this Offense.

Nah. You mostly just ripped on Wilson, even suggested that Kyle Allen play over Fields as a "developmental" strategy, and predicted a "big fat loss" for Pittsburgh in Atlanta. You get no victory lap for all that mess.

[Kingspoint]

Nah. You mostly just ripped on Wilson, even suggested that Kyle Allen play over Fields as a "developmental" strategy, and predicted a "big fat loss" for Pittsburgh in Atlanta. You get no victory lap for all that mess.

I guess asking some Steeler fans to be able to read comprehensibly is asking a bit too much.

I ripped on Wilson.

I emphatically stated that Fields needs to be annointed Quarterback of the franchise and nothing should waiver from this, not when Fields has some downs with his ups, nor when he adapts early in the season to get acclimated to the Offense and the newly appointed position. I added that Wilson should be no place near the franchise to do his personal best to distract from the team. Not surprised that you can't comprehend this if you think at all like Tomlin.

The only mention of Allen was in reference to his being a better option than Wilson. But, I'm used to you making stuff up to fit your schtick. Nothing new here.

The only prediction I made about wins and losses for the Steelers involved Wilson as a Starter. But, again, I'm used to you making stuff up to fit your schtick. Nothing new here.

What happened is exactly what I predicted would happen. Fields would give the Steelers a chance to win where Wilson's only option would lead to a loss.

[Sea Ray]

Not worth it

[SteelSD]

I guess asking some Steeler fans to be able to read comprehensibly is asking a bit too much.

I ripped on Wilson.

I emphatically stated that Fields needs to be annointed Quarterback of the franchise and nothing should waiver from this, not when Fields has some downs with his ups, nor when he adapts early in the season to get acclimated to the Offense and the newly appointed position. I added that Wilson should be no place near the franchise to do his personal best to distract from the team. Not surprised that you can't comprehend this if you think at all like Tomlin.

The only mention of Allen was in reference to his being a better option than Wilson. But, I'm used to you making stuff up to fit your schtick. Nothing new here.

The only prediction I made about wins and losses for the Steelers involved Wilson as a Starter. But, again, I'm used to you making stuff up to fit your schtick. Nothing new here.

What happened is exactly what I predicted would happen. Fields would give the Steelers a chance to win where Wilson's only option would lead to a loss.

Uh huh. Sit Fields to learn from Kyle Allen. "Big fat loss."

You're quite the prophet.

[RiverfrontRed]

Uh huh. Sit Fields to learn from Kyle Allen. "Big fat loss."

You're quite the prophet.

Yeah I think Bengals fans should be concerned with their own QB situation, with Burrow's wrist injury.

[Kingspoint]

Another great game for the Steelers so far with a 10-0 lead @ Denver @ the Half.

Huge mistake announcing that Wilson will be the Starter as soon as he's healthy.

As a Bengals' fan, I hope Tomlin makes that boneheaded decision.

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Uh huh. Sit Fields to learn from Kyle Allen. "Big fat loss."

You're quite the prophet.

Sit Wilson. You're quite the academic. :)

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Yeah I think Bengals fans should be concerned with their own QB situation, with Burrow's wrist injury.

No problems with Burrow, the best QB in the NFL.,...about to go 4-1 against Mahomes.

[SteelSD]

Another great game for the Steelers so far with a 10-0 lead @ Denver @ the Half.

Huge mistake announcing that Wilson will be the Starter as soon as he's healthy.

As a Bengals' fan, I hope Tomlin makes that boneheaded decision.

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Sit Wilson. You're quite the academic. :)

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No problems with Burrow, the best QB in the NFL.,...about to go 4-1 against Mahomes.

You're like 0-for-the season. Get a new schtick. Your current one is just plain weird.

[Kingspoint]

I see Arthur Smith is still struggling to put points on the board.

[RiverfrontRed]

I see Arthur Smith is still struggling to put points on the board.

I see that the Bengals still have a hard time getting it up. They are 1-9 for their first 2 games the past 5 years.

[RiverfrontRed]

Steelers beat a pretty good team in Atlanta, week one.

[SteelSD]

Steelers beat a pretty good team in Atlanta, week one.

They beat a pretty good team in the Chargers today too. Long way to go in the season, but right now this looks like the best defense they've had since the Polamalu years, and they're likely better at CB today than they were then. Holding a team to minus five yards in a half is almost unheard of. I hope Highsmith (groin) will be back soon, but Nick Herbig was a menace (2 sacks, FF) replacing him during the game.

On the offensive side, after keeping things simple for Fields, Arthur Smith opened it up a bit today- particularly the middle of the field. That worked, especially for the long Calvin Austin TD on a nice throw from Fields, but also cost the Steelers with a bounce-around INT on a ball Fields really shouldn't have thrown. Much better playcalling than what we saw from the days of Matt Canada.

Also of interest for Steelers fans is that Broderick Jones played very well at RT today after what could have been a demoralizing showing last week. Absolutely needed with Fautanu out for for a while (maybe the season) with a injured knee. Going almost unnoticed was rookie 4th rounder Mason McCormick taking over at Guard for swing OT/G Spencer Anderson, who was in for an injured Seumalo (jeez, the OL injuries). McCormick is a road grader; adding him to the mix almost instantly opened up the running game. The last drive to run out the clock just brutalized the Chargers defense on the ground.

I'll be keeping my eye on the standings for the next couple of weeks to see what teams might be ready to move a #2-equivalent receiver for a mid-to-late round pick (or two). Despite Austin's romp to score today, that's still a glaring need.

[RiverfrontRed]

Strangely, I feel better about this team after yesterday than before. The defense lost the game, but they won't have many bad games like that. Justin Fields stepped up and almost single-handedly led them on a comeback (except for an ill-timed snap on the last drive).

[SteelSD]

Strangely, I feel better about this team after yesterday than before. The defense lost the game, but they won't have many bad games like that. Justin Fields stepped up and almost single-handedly led them on a comeback (except for an ill-timed snap on the last drive).

And I feel about exactly the opposite. The defense was atrocious in the first half yesterday, yep. But I think that Fields had the kind of game that demonstrates why no one should trust him. He can hit some throws, and did, sure. But his mistakes were egregious, and came at just the worst possible times. He made an absolutely awful decision on his first fumble, which likely cost the Steelers a field goal, when he gave it up without so much as being touched by a defender. There was a botched exchange early on (was it the first play?) that cost yards, and the last fumble off his face mask was on Fields, not the Center, snuffing out just about any chance they had on that final drive. By my count, that's at least four bad fumbles for Fields this year over his first four games, which is an insane pace, especially given how he's putting the ball on the ground. Even if he doesn't lose them, they're drive killers.

And now, there's another injury on the O-Line, with Daniels being out for the year with a torn achilles. That O-Line is patchwork right now with loose seams, who knows who'll be available at RB behind Harris (who was awful on Sunday) next week, and they still don't have a #2 wideout.

[RiverfrontRed]

And I feel about exactly the opposite. The defense was atrocious in the first half yesterday, yep. But I think that Fields had the kind of game that demonstrates why no one should trust him. He can hit some throws, and did, sure. But his mistakes were egregious, and came at just the worst possible times. He made an absolutely awful decision on his first fumble, which likely cost the Steelers a field goal, when he gave it up without so much as being touched by a defender. There was a botched exchange early on (was it the first play?) that cost yards, and the last fumble off his face mask was on Fields, not the Center, snuffing out just about any chance they had on that final drive. By my count, that's at least four bad fumbles for Fields this year over his first four games, which is an insane pace, especially given how he's putting the ball on the ground. Even if he doesn't lose them, they're drive killers.

And now, there's another injury on the O-Line, with Daniels being out for the year with a torn achilles. That O-Line is patchwork right now with loose seams, who knows who'll be available at RB behind Harris (who was awful on Sunday) next week, and they still don't have a #2 wideout.

We will need to agree to disagree. I watch a lot of other games on NFL+ and you should see some of the bone headed plays that Patrick Mahomes makes. Mistakes are part of the position. Overall, he is taking care of the ball. George Pickens on the other hand... his fumble cost them points, likely a touchdown and his dropped pass in the endzone was a touchdown.

[Assembly Hall]

We will need to agree to disagree. I watch a lot of other games on NFL+ and you should see some of the bone headed plays that Patrick Mahomes makes. Mistakes are part of the position. Overall, he is taking care of the ball. George Pickens on the other hand... his fumble cost them points, likely a touchdown and his dropped pass in the endzone was a touchdown.

I really wanted Fields to work out with the Bears. It didn't so maybe Tomlin can get him straightened out in Pittsburgh. Fwiw Justin needs to show me he can win games in the 4th quarter before I think he has turned the corner.

[Tony Cloninger]

Steelers get to play Cowboys without Micha Parsons and their 2nd best pass rushing lineman. After playing against an injured Herbert. It helps to get teams that are injured just right on time.

[SteelSD]

Steelers get to play Cowboys without Micha Parsons and their 2nd best pass rushing lineman. After playing against an injured Herbert. It helps to get teams that are injured just right on time.

Pittsburgh is even more banged up than the Cowboys. They're down to a practice squad RB backing up Harris, are going to be missing at least two (Seumalo at G is expected to return), and possibly three (if Seumalo can't play) starting offensive linemen, their starting right side edge rusher (Highsmith) is out with the backup (Herbig) playing on a bum ankle, and two of their starting DL- Benton and Ogunjobi- are nursing injuries, with the latter of the two listed as questionable. So yeah, maybe it is fortunate to get a team that's badly banged up right on time, for the Cowboys that is.

[OldFashionedRed]

NO

[RiverfrontRed]

Pittsburgh is even more banged up than the Cowboys. They're down to a practice squad RB backing up Harris, are going to be missing at least two (Seumalo at G is expected to return), and possibly three (if Seumalo can't play) starting offensive linemen, their starting right side edge rusher (Highsmith) is out with the backup (Herbig) playing on a bum ankle, and two of their starting DL- Benton and Ogunjobi- are nursing injuries, with the latter of the two listed as questionable. So yeah, maybe it is fortunate to get a team that's badly banged up right on time, for the Cowboys that is.
Don't upset the narrative that the Steelers only win if there's an advantage!

[SteelSD]

And after losing to a bad Cowboys team, we have exhibit #2 of why no Steelers fan should trust Justin Fields. Fifth fumble of the season, another half where he threw for 35 or fewer yards (first half tonight), including a 16-yard second half effort earlier in the season. Issues with decision making, leading to bad sacks, and accuracy issues all night long. Three for twelve on third down. Fields just struggles with read progression and can't consistently make throws when he does find the right guy open. The team simply doesn't put up points with Fields at the helm, mainly because he just kills too many drives.

I'm not a huge Russell Wilson fan and have fairly limited expectations, but a drive or two per game from Fields, if that, and a bunch of bad isn't enough for Fields to keep the job.

[WVRed]

And after losing to a bad Cowboys team, we have exhibit #2 of why no Steelers fan should trust Justin Fields. Fifth fumble of the season, another half where he threw for 35 or fewer yards (first half tonight), including a 16-yard second half effort earlier in the season. Issues with decision making, leading to bad sacks, and accuracy issues all night long. Three for twelve on third down. Fields just struggles with read progression and can't consistently make throws when he does find the right guy open. The team simply doesn't put up points with Fields at the helm, mainly because he just kills too many drives.

I'm not a huge Russell Wilson fan and have fairly limited expectations, but a drive or two per game from Fields, if that, and a bunch of bad isn't enough for Fields to keep the job.I don't think Pickett was the answer at the time and there was a reason the Bears punted on Fields and went with Caleb Williams. Russell Wilson is a journeyman at this point, nothing more nothing less.

They need to draft and develop a QB. Problem is as we all know they will never be in range for a difference maker so it's either trade up and give up draft capital or hope the next Roethlisberger falls into their lap.

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[RiverfrontRed]

It's a loss. They're still 3-2 and the #5 seed. Two weeks ago people were saying the Bills were the best team in football. Now they look like one of the worst. The sky is not falling. Get it right against the Raiders next Sunday and they're 4-2. The recency bias of sports fans gets completely out of control at times.

[Tony Cloninger]

Don't upset the narrative that the Steelers only win if there's an advantage!

Not what I was stating at all. But injury luck and when you play a team that is hurt helps. Was expecting Pittsburgh to win but not in a low scoring game. They schemed and played better than expected. But sure Fields can’t be fully trusted as Steel just said.

[RiverfrontRed]

Russ is cooking and the Steelers are in first place. The AFC North will always be about the Steelers and the Ravens. The Bengals can't get out of their own way and the Browns will always be the Browns.

[redsfandan]

Russ is cooking and the Steelers are in first place. The AFC North will always be about the Steelers and the Ravens. The Bengals can't get out of their own way and the Browns will always be the Browns.

Sad but true. I will be pinching myself if an Ohio team wins a Super Bowl (in my lifetime).

[RiverfrontRed]

Will they or won't they trade for a WR before the trade deadline? RW is making the current scrubs look better, but a true WR2 would be a big boost to the offense. Most of the likely candidates are already gone.

[goreds2]

Steelers 1pm game today will be on WBNS CBS 10 in Columbus, OH.

[goreds2]

Nice win against the Ravens. Next game is at Cleveland this Thursday. Hopefully no let down.

[goreds2]

Nice win against the Ravens. Next game is at Cleveland this Thursday. Hopefully no let down.

I was afraid of that.

[goreds2]

Pittsburgh Steelers open as underdogs in crucial division game vs. Bengals

https://www.pennlive.com/steelers/2024/11/pittsburgh-steelers-open-as-underdogs-in-crucial-division-game-vs-bengals.html

[ShyGuy]

I was afraid of that.

That was probably the most fun I had watching a football game in years.

It seems from an outside perspective Tomlin's teams have a few games every year they really play down to their opponents level.

[RiverfrontRed]

Since 2021 when the Bengals blew out the Steelers 41-10 and declared themselves to be the new kings of the north, the Steelers have won 4 out of the last 5 in the matchup. #justfacts

[Sea Ray]

Since 2021 when the Bengals blew out the Steelers 41-10 and declared themselves to be the new kings of the north, the Steelers have won 4 out of the last 5 in the matchup. #justfacts

Since that matchup the Bengals won the AFC North twice...the Steelers 0. #justfacts

[RiverfrontRed]

Since that matchup the Bengals won the AFC North twice...the Steelers 0. #justfacts

How's that working this year? Plus last I counted in the only category that matters it's 6-0. Honestly, it's a crime for that organization to waste the prime years of Joe Burrow. He's a top 3 QB and has nothing to show for it right now.

[Sea Ray]

How's that working this year? Plus last I counted in the only category that matters it's 6-0.

It's working out horribly for the Bengals this year. Pretty much every team is better than them this year, not just the Steelers. Us Bengal fans know to expect years like this

[RiverfrontRed]

It's working out horribly for the Bengals this year. Pretty much every team is better than them this year, not just the Steelers. Us Bengal fans know to expect years like this

They need to lock up Chase and then draft all defense!

[SteelSD]

Are there actually football fans who measure success by counting division titles? #howsad

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[Sea Ray]

They need to lock up Chase and then draft all defense!

No, they've drafted defense like Miles Murphy but it's gotten them nowhere. They need to draft better and they won't do that unless they hire more talent evaluators

[RiverfrontRed]

No, they've drafted defense like Miles Murphy but it's gotten them nowhere. They need to draft better and they won't do that unless they hire more talent evaluators

I'm guessing that the cheapness of Mike Brown comes into play with that?

[Dom Heffner]

Are there actually football fans who measure success by counting division titles? #howsad

22151

Imagine spending your life harkening to the days of Jimmy Carter and The Waltons. "oh hey i have something to rub in your face- it mostly happened in the 1970s, but...."

Nobody cares.

[Sea Ray]

I'm guessing that the cheapness of Mike Brown comes into play with that?

A lot of people think that but that's not my view. I think it's about stubbornness and control. Mike Brown is hesitant to cede any kind of power to people outside the Brown family and he also stubbornly thinks his way is the right way and everyone else is doing it wrong. He's not saving money if you look at it by how money he's wasting by giving millions to players like Myles Murphy and Geno Stone

[Dom Heffner]

A lot of people think that but that's not my view. I think it's about stubbornness and control. Mike Brown is hesitant to cede any kind of power to people outside the Brown family and he also stubbornly thinks his way is the right way and everyone else is doing it wrong. He's not saving money if you look at it by how money he's wasting by giving millions to players like Myles Murphy and Geno Stone

There is a sense he knows better. Agreed.

Would love to have kept Jessie Bates and cut a lot of the waste on the roster to pay for it.

[WVRed]

How's that working this year? Plus last I counted in the only category that matters it's 6-0. Honestly, it's a crime for that organization to waste the prime years of Joe Burrow. He's a top 3 QB and has nothing to show for it right now.I've said it before, Joe Burrow is a modern day Dan Marino.

Made it to the Super Bowl his second year, lost and due to ownership and circumstances beyond his control he will likely never make it back.

I think they should take a page from the Chiefs, trade Chase (should have dealt Higgins) and draft and build up the defense. The offense may suffer some but I and pretty much any other Bengals fans don't trust Tobin to draft anyone unless it's a top 5 pick. Plus there's a better chance once Chase is signed that he will not play up to the contract since wideouts don't exactly have a long shelf life.

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[goreds2]

Despite losing today, the Steelers clinch a playoff spot.

[RiverfrontRed]

TJ is a much better player than Pickens, but for the Ravens games if I could only have one back it would be Pickens. Depth is good at edge, but the receiver room outside of Pickens is almost semi-pro. That offense only works with #14.

[goreds2]

To those Steelers/Buckeyes fans:

Tomorrow is going to be crazy for Sports. Steelers/Ravens 4:30pm

**OSU vs Kentucky basketball at 5:30 pm on CBS**

then OSU football playoff vs Tennessee at 8pm.

[goreds2]

Steelers' playoff scenarios set


With a win over the Bengals in Week 18 coupled with a loss by the Ravens against the Browns, the Steelers would win the AFC North title based on tiebreakers. The Steelers would then host a first-round playoff game against the Los Angeles Chargers (10-6).

Los Angeles finishes at Las Vegas against the Raiders in Week 18.
If both the Steelers and Ravens (11-5) win, the Steelers would be the No. 5 seed in the AFC playoffs and would travel to Houston to face the AFC South champions and fourth-seeded Texans.
If, however, the Steelers lose and the Chargers win, Los Angeles would move into the No. 5 spot in the AFC playoffs and the Steelers would fall to the No. 6 seed.

In that case, the Steelers would travel to Baltimore to face the Ravens for a third time this season. The Steelers and Ravens split their two regular season meetings, with the Steelers winning 18-16 in Pittsburgh and the Ravens winning 34-17 in Baltimore in Week 16.

https://www.steelers.com/news/steelers-playoff-scenarios-set

[Sea Ray]

Looks like the Steelers definitely have something to play for even if the Ravens win on Saturday. I'm sure they'd much prefer playing Houston in the 1st round than Balt

[goreds2]

Steelers' Mike Tomlin on resting starters if Ravens lock up division: 'I doubt I'll be in that mentality'


When asked if he would rest the starters if Baltimore wins, Pittsburgh head coach Mike Tomlin said that isn't on his mind right now.

"I haven't pondered that at all. ...I doubt I'll be in that mentality," Tomlin said Monday.

The head coach, who's had winning seasons in each of the last 18 years, says it's unlikely that he will be sitting players. He noted that it's crucial his team plays well and goes into the playoffs with momentum.

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/steelers-mike-tomlin-on-resting-starters-if-ravens-lock-up-division-i-doubt-ill-be-in-that-mentality/

[Tuff Nut]

Steelers' Mike Tomlin on resting starters if Ravens lock up division: 'I doubt I'll be in that mentality'



https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/steelers-mike-tomlin-on-resting-starters-if-ravens-lock-up-division-i-doubt-ill-be-in-that-mentality/

Pittsburgh should play to win..a loss and a Chargers win, puts Pittsburgh at Baltimore, while the Chargers would go to Houston. Who would you rather play. eh?

[WVRed]

Watching his game the Steelers should really invest a draft pick in Jalen Milroe. Let him sit a year and learn from Russ (if he comes back). If Fields cant beat Russ out the way Russ is playing he isn't the answer.

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[goreds2]

Get’em next season.

[Sea Ray]

As Steeler fans, in hindsight are you glad you made the playoffs or would you have been better off missing and getting a better draft pick? As a Bengal fan I know what it’s like to get blown out in the first round of the playoffs and if you’re breaking in a young QB or lots of young players you think “OK, good experience”. But if you’ve got a veteran team, not so much


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[RedTeamGo!]

Idea I’ve been kicking around:

Browns trade the Steelers the #2 pick in the draft. They select a potential franchise QB (Ward or Sanders)

Steelers trade the Browns their 1st round pick, 2nd round pick, and 2026 1st round pick.

Who says no?

[WVRed]

Idea I’ve been kicking around:

Browns trade the Steelers the #2 pick in the draft. They select a potential franchise QB (Ward or Sanders)

Steelers trade the Browns their 1st round pick, 2nd round pick, and 2026 1st round pick.

Who says no?Has a trade like this ever been made between two teams in the same division?

I also can't imagine Tomlin wanting any part of the Sanders circus either. Steelers don't seem like the type of team that would put up with Deion basically being Lavar Ball 2.0.

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[RedTeamGo!]

Nvm

[goreds2]

Report: Steelers Inquire About Bombshell Trade for Former No. 1 Overall QB


The Pittsburgh Steelers have asked about trading for Jacksonville Jaguars quarterback Trevor Lawrence, according to a report by Ryan Burr of Big Ten Network.

Burr reported on Thursday a source within the Jaguars organization told him that the Steelers have been asking about Lawrence, and even reported that the team would consider trading this year’s first and second-round draft picks for the former No. 1 selection.
https://www.yahoo.com/sports/report-steelers-inquire-bombshell-trade-085838961.html

[Sea Ray]

Report: Steelers Inquire About Bombshell Trade for Former No. 1 Overall QB


https://www.yahoo.com/sports/report-steelers-inquire-bombshell-trade-085838961.html

Dream on. Why would the Jags do that? Teams don't trade franchise QBs

[Assembly Hall]

Dream on. Why would the Jags do that? Teams don't trade franchise QBs

The Jags do it if they don't feel Trevor is a franchise QB....

[goreds2]

Remember Duck Hodges who started some games at QB for the Steelers a few years back? I think he is doing OK now....

Country star Lainey Wilson reveals engagement to former NFL player Duck Hodges after 4 years of dating


Country music singer Lainey Wilson, 32, is engaged to former NFL quarterback Devlin “Duck” Hodges, 28, after four years of dating.

“4x4xU forever,” the Grammy Award winner posted Wednesday night on Instagram.

Wilson was pictured wearing a long red coat, cowboy hat and her signature bell bottoms as she said “yes” to the former Pittsburgh Steelers player who proposed with the ring in a cowboy hat box.

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/country-star-lainey-wilson-reveals-073247644.html

[Sea Ray]

The Jags do it if they don't feel Trevor is a franchise QB....

There’s no indication that the Jags feel that way. They should all be fired if that’s what their plan is


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[Sea Ray]

No.

I didn't think so. Any further details to report? My guess is it was a pretty short conversation. Can't blame the Steelers for reaching out but it does make me wonder whatever gave them the idea that the Jags would be open to it. There are all kinds of "franchise QBs" out there. Why did they call the Jags?

I haven't given it much thought but really all they need is a Brock Purdy type guy. it'd be worth a phone call to SF. Other than that, they ought to be scouring NFL rosters for backups that might fit that mold and be looking for the next Brock Purdy in the draft. I do think they should look beyond Russell Wilson. Don't know what their thinking is with Justin Fields. I did notice that after Fields was demoted to 2nd string the Steelers were very hesitant to call plays where he threw the ball. He was almost always a runner. That tells me that they do not have confidence in his decision making ability from the pocket and as such do not view him as a starter

[RiverfrontRed]

It's going to be interesting to see what direction the Steelers go at QB1. Fields is the likely choice, but I won't rule out a wildcard like Rodgers or Darnold.

[WVRed]

What is it with the Steelers and diva wideouts?

DK Metcalf for a second and a swap of sixth round picks.

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[plantmanky]

What is it with the Steelers and diva wideouts?

DK Metcalf for a second and a swap of sixth round picks.

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I dont get it, whos gonna throw him the ball, the invisible man?

[WVRed]

I dont get it, whos gonna throw him the ball, the invisible man?Sounds like they might make a run at Aaron Rodgers.

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[plantmanky]

Sounds like they might make a run at Aaron Rodgers.

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I would love that, would take them out of contention immediately.

[RiverfrontRed]

Tomlin can win games with Duck Hodges at QB. But they will never compete in the playoffs without a bonafide franchise QB. Rodgers might have one magic season left, but I think he wants to go to the Vikings. Slim pickings beyond that. They may need to play a rookie like Dart.

[goreds2]

Steelers Looking at QB in NFL Draft That Has Drawn Ben Roethlisberger Comparisons


As the Pittsburgh Steelers try to figure out their quarterback situation for the 2025 season, coach Mike Tomlin, general manager Omar Khan and offensive coordinator Arthur Smith attended Ohio State's pro day on Wednesday to watch quarterback Will Howard throw.

This is an interesting move for the Steelers, but not super surprising as Howard has previously been compared to former Pittsburgh quarterback Ben Roethlisberger because of his size and mobility styles.

The Steelers even took Howard out to dinner on Tuesday night before his pro day. It's sounding like the team is interested in drafting Howard next month, and Howard seems to be on board with that. But, of course, nothing is set in stone.


More here:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/steelers-looking-at-qb-in-nfl-draft-that-has-drawn-ben-roethlisberger-comparisons/ar-AA1BIBVF

[RiverfrontRed]

This will be one of the more interesting drafts for the Steelers in years. Do they draft Dart or Sanders if he falls (or they trade up)? I hope they don't ride with Mason Rudolph without a rookie in the wings. And I'm so over the AaRod drama.

[Kingspoint]

Steelers looking to trade down....have 1st Round Grade on Jaxson Dart.

https://www.profootballrumors.com/pittsburgh-steelers-news-rumors

[RiverfrontRed]

They had their choice of Dart or Sanders. I hope the pass doesn't come back and bite them.

[WVRed]

They had their choice of Dart or Sanders. I hope the pass doesn't come back and bite them.Honestly I think they would be better off running Mason Rudolph out and going all out tank for Arch, Nussmeier, or Drew Allar.

Shedur isn't worth the circus that his dad will bring and Dart might be replaced by one of the above next year. I would honestly look at Milroe for a QB this year especially if he falls to the third.

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[RiverfrontRed]

Honestly I think they would be better off running Mason Rudolph out and going all out tank for Arch, Nussmeier, or Drew Allar.

Shedur isn't worth the circus that his dad will bring and Dart might be replaced by one of the above next year. I would honestly look at Milroe for a QB this year especially if he falls to the third.

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One thing is for sure, NFL teams and GMs know very little about who will and won't be a good pro QB. The evidence of this is boundless.

[Sea Ray]

ESPN sources: Dallas and Pittsburgh are working to finalize a trade that will send wide receiver George Pickens to the Cowboys in exchange for draft pick compensation. The trade is expected to be finalized today.

https://x.com/AdamSchefter/status/1920068043255779741?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5 Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1920068043255779741%7Ctwgr% 5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=

So what do you say he's worth? I'd set the over/under at a 4th rounder

[RiverRat13]

https://x.com/AdamSchefter/status/1920068043255779741?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5 Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1920068043255779741%7Ctwgr% 5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=

So what do you say he's worth? I'd set the over/under at a 4th rounder

4th rounder would be an overpay, IMO.

[Sea Ray]

4th rounder would be an overpay, IMO.

That's fair. Cowboys may actually be drafting in the top ten next year too

[RiverfrontRed]

It was for a 3rd and also a pick swap (Steelers send a 6 and get a 5 in return).

[Sea Ray]

It was for a 3rd and also a pick swap (Steelers send a 6 and get a 5 in return).

Sounds like my 4th pick prediction understated his value. Steelers got him for a 3rd +. Very good deal for Pittsburgh. All that for only one yr of Pickens

[RiverRat13]

Sounds like my 4th pick prediction understated his value. Steelers got him for a 3rd +. Very good deal for Pittsburgh. All that for only one yr of Pickens

I almost added that since it was the Cowboys, he could go for more than a 3rd. Big time talent but a big time headache.

[Sea Ray]

In the end, Metcalf only fetched one round better than Pickens in trade. That’s kind of amazing. He’s far better than Pickens but granted, they both have “head issues “


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[RiverfrontRed]

Sounds like my 4th pick prediction understated his value. Steelers got him for a 3rd +. Very good deal for Pittsburgh. All that for only one yr of Pickens

Not bad for a malcontent. It's the same as they got for AB a few years back and GP couldn't carry AB's jockstrap.

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The same fans who blamed Tomlin for putting up with GP are the same ones blaming him for trading him. Can't win with some fans.

[Sea Ray]

Not bad for a malcontent. It's the same as they got for AB a few years back and GP couldn't carry AB's jockstrap.

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The same fans who blamed Tomlin for putting up with GP are the same ones blaming him for trading him. Can't win with some fans.

No fans should be complaining about this deal. It's wonderful value for Pittsburgh. Were Steeler fans mad when they traded Claypool to the Bears? I'm amazed teams will pay up for these guys. Almost makes me wonder what Tee Higgins would be worth. In the meantime Bengals need to get Jermaine Burton polished up so they can get some team to go nuts acquiring him

[SteelSD]

Not bad for a malcontent. It's the same as they got for AB a few years back and GP couldn't carry AB's jockstrap.

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The same fans who blamed Tomlin for putting up with GP are the same ones blaming him for trading him. Can't win with some fans.

I'm completely ok with the trade return in isolation. Additionally, Pittsburgh looks to be going with more of an outside zone run scheme (drafted Kaleb Johnson because of it) and Pickens just isn't a willing blocker to support that.

That being said, despite the negatives, I was looking forward to seeing a professional high-end pass catching reciever duo this season. So I'm not terribly thrilled that it's now Metcalf and question marks, similar to what they had last year. Alan Lazard's name has been floated as a potential acquisition, but he's another support guy to add to a long list of those types.

[WVRed]

Looks like the Aaron Rodgers circus along with the bearded lady (Pat McAfee) is headed to Pittsburgh after all.

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[Redsfaithful]

Will turn 42 during the season, hasn't actually been good since 2021, brings a bunch of unnecessary drama, as a Bengals fan I love it.

[WVRed]

Will turn 42 during the season, hasn't actually been good since 2021, brings a bunch of unnecessary drama, as a Bengals fan I love it.Pretty bad when my 10 year old son says "Who?" when I tell him the Steelers signed Aaron Rodgers and he follows football.

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[RedTeamGo!]

Pretty bad when my 10 year old son says "Who?" when I tell him the Steelers signed Aaron Rodgers and he follows football.

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If he follows football you sure he wasn’t being sarcastic?

[WVRed]

If he follows football you sure he wasn’t being sarcastic?His interest has only really peaked the last couple of years. Rodgers was kind of irrelevant with the Jets last year and hurt the year before. He likes the Bengals and the kids he goes to school with follow either the Chiefs or Steelers.

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[goreds2]

On his podcast, Ben Roethlisberger predicted the Steelers to finish 11-6 with Rodgers and 7-10 without Rodgers.

[Kingspoint]

Rodgers joins the Steelers...

https://www.profootballrumors.com/2025/06/latest-on-aaron-rodgers-joining-steelers

June 7th, 2025 at 12:30pm CST by Nikhil Mehta

12:31pm: Rodgers passed his physical and officially signed his contract with the Steelers on Saturday, according to Rapoport. It’s a one-year deal with a base value of $13.65MM and $10MM in guaranteed money, per ESPN’s Adam Schefter. Playtime and team performance incentives could boost Rodgers’ earnings to a maximum of $19.5MM.

[RiverfrontRed]

Lots of fun this offseason. Super Bowl!!! (maybe)

But... the Steelers will win their 7th before the Bengals win their 1st.

[WVRed]

Lots of fun this offseason. Super Bowl!!! (maybe)

But... the Steelers will win their 7th before the Bengals win their 1st.Don't disagree with the last but as I posted in the other thread all of the Steelers moves would have been great five years ago.

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[RiverfrontRed]

Don't disagree with the last but as I posted in the other thread all of the Steelers moves would have been great five years ago.

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Yeah that's like me buying stock in Amazon now versus 25 years ago.

[goreds2]

Steelers 7pm game tonight will be on NBC 4 Columbus, Ohio.

[goreds2]

Steelers 7pm game Thursday will be on NBC 4 Columbus, Ohio.

[RiverfrontRed]

I can't wait for the real games to begin! I wouldn't have minded seeing Howard play but since he's out I'm ready to cut to the chase.

[goreds2]

Steelers opening game Sept. 7 at 1pm est. will be on Columbus, Ohio local affiliate WBNS 10TV. ( Channel 10.1 )

https://www.10tv.com/tv-listings

[ShyGuy]

Well, that is sure one hell of a field goal kicker they have! The 60 yarder to win the game looks like it could have good from at least another 10 yards. I mean compare to that Browns kicker

Was a very good game...... Fields played well today for the Jets too.

[goreds2]

Steelers' Aaron Rodgers Did Something Not Done in 60 Years vs Jets


As shared by NFL on CBS, no other quarterback has thrown for 240 yards, four touchdowns, and no interceptions in their debut with a new team in the last 60 NFL seasons. Rodgers can add that milestone to his resume.

https://www.newsweek.com/sports/nfl/steelers-aaron-rodgers-did-something-not-done-60-years-vs-jets-2126664

[RiverfrontRed]

Rodgers' arm is still A++. If they can get the LT figured out, the offense will win a lot of games. The defense played poorly but I think some of it was the first live action. A lot of good teams struggled on one or both sides of the ball.

[ShyGuy]

Rough day for Pittsburgh. Even from a Jets fans perspective..... I think last week the Jets fanbase felt really encouraged even though they lost. Like hey we went toe to toe with a solid team and got beat by an amazing kicker.

Today was a brutal Jets game. Wasn't even as close as 30-10 the loss to the Bills.

Now it's thinking after the Steelers lost they might not have been as impressive a team as we thought.

[RiverfrontRed]

Rough day for Pittsburgh. Even from a Jets fans perspective..... I think last week the Jets fanbase felt really encouraged even though they lost. Like hey we went toe to toe with a solid team and got beat by an amazing kicker.

Today was a brutal Jets game. Wasn't even as close as 30-10 the loss to the Bills.

Now it's thinking after the Steelers lost they might not have been as impressive a team as we thought.

Outside of 2-3 teams, the NFL is a week-to-week proposition. Most teams will finish between 7-9 and 10-7.

[goreds2]

Next three games for Steelers are Packers and Colts at home then on the road to LA Chargers.

[RedTeamGo!]

Next three games for Steelers are Packers and Colts at home then on the road to LA Chargers.

Hot damn, steelers are going to lose all those games.

[RiverfrontRed]

Rodgers gets a A at this point. If he can hold up and the o-line continues to improve, they'll make the playoffs and possibly win a game. Defense is another issue, altogether. They should be good, but they're very inconsistent. Looks like another 10-7 season.

[Assembly Hall]

Rodgers gets a A at this point. If he can hold up and the o-line continues to improve, they'll make the playoffs and possibly win a game. Defense is another issue, altogether. They should be good, but they're very inconsistent. Looks like another 10-7 season.

Let's see what Rodgers does against better competition.

[RiverfrontRed]

Let's see what Rodgers does against better competition.

Let's see what better competition does against him.

[Assembly Hall]

Let's see what better competition does against him.

You mean like the Bengals....

[RiverfrontRed]

You mean like the Bengals....

Dude, Rodgers was not the problem against the Bengals. He threw 4 TDs. I really don't know what your point is, other than Steelers hate. The Steelers D sucked that game. That's why they lost.

[Assembly Hall]

Dude, Rodgers was not the problem against the Bengals. He threw 4 TDs. I really don't know what your point is, other than Steelers hate. The Steelers D sucked that game. That's why they lost.

Rodgers hate takes priority over my dislike of the Steelers. But it makes it nice for me that they teamed up.


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[goreds2]

Tough one for sure.

[RiverfrontRed]

Rodgers hate takes priority over my dislike of the Steelers. But it makes it nice for me that they teamed up.


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You're entitled to some trash talk after all those years of rooting for a team that historically sucked (IU). Now you're on top, until the coach leaves.

[Assembly Hall]

You're entitled to some trash talk after all those years of rooting for a team that historically sucked (IU). Now you're on top, until the coach leaves.

LOL. Good luck to you and that Steeler defense.

[RiverfrontRed]

LOL. Good luck to you and that Steeler defense.

I think they're beyond hope right now, but I'm sure Tomlin will get them to 9-8, which might be enough to win the AFCN.

[goreds2]

Quote Originally Posted by goreds2
Next three games for Steelers are Packers and Colts at home then on the road to LA Chargers.
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Hot damn, steelers are going to lose all those games.

Wink wink?

[Kingspoint]

Steelers clinched the AFC North today.

[RiverfrontRed]

Steelers clinched the AFC North today.

I'd like to think so, but those Ravens are still lurking. Hopefully the Vikings help us out on Sunday. I will be surprised if the Steelers beat the Chargers on the road.

[Sea Ray]

Steelers looked horrible last night despite having more fans there than the home team did

[RiverfrontRed]

Steelers looked horrible last night despite having more fans there than the home team did

Yeah I quit watching early in the 3rd quarter. They're not a good team. But they'll go 9-8.

[Sea Ray]

Yeah I quit watching early in the 3rd quarter. They're not a good team. But they'll go 9-8.

That's what they went last year. So the additions on defense and Aaron Rodgers didn't make any difference?

[SteelSD]

Good showing by the defense today, and nice game from Rudolph in relief of Rogers. Darnell Washington is a Mack truck with the ball in his hands.

I expect Jalen Ramsey to be fined for throwing a punch at Ja'Marr Chase. But if there's any NFL justice, Chase will be suspended for a game for spitting on Ramsey, considering that Chase should have also been tossed ala Jalen Carter, especially as he'd just received an unsportmanlike 1st strike moments earlier.


https://x.com/i/status/1990190679319028043

Chase lying about it after the game was comical.