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BuckeyeRed27
11-05-2023, 10:21 PM
These officials are terrible. That was not a hold. It was also not a PI earlier. The roughing the passer and hold called against buffalo were bad too


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Not a hold at all. Ridiculous.

Sea Ray
11-05-2023, 10:21 PM
Don’t ever let Joe take a hit like that again

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And now a delay of game. Getting in their own freaking way.

How did Zac let that happen? He has all 3 TOs. First half. When you see the play clock going down, call the TO in that situation


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The Operator
11-05-2023, 10:21 PM
These officials are terrible. That was not a hold. It was also not a PI earlier. The roughing the passer and hold called against buffalo were bad too


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At least they’ve been consistently bad across both teams… so far.

Hillsdale87
11-05-2023, 10:22 PM
At least they’ve been consistently bad across both teams… so far.

This is the crew that throws the most flags in the NFL. Showing out so far...


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The Operator
11-05-2023, 10:22 PM
How did Zac let that happen? He has all 3 TOs. First half. When you see the play clock going down, call the TO in that situation


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Yea I was flabbergasted. Can’t let that go down.

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Oh crap I saw Burrow licking the finger. Hope that’s not a thing.

Roy Tucker
11-05-2023, 10:24 PM
A flag fest. Jeez.

The Operator
11-05-2023, 10:25 PM
Oh crap it looks like he may have dislocated the finger nail.


Having done that myself, it’s not fun.

Hillsdale87
11-05-2023, 10:25 PM
What a disaster


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The Operator
11-05-2023, 10:25 PM
This many penalties at home is an absolute embarrassment.

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And now there’s no field goal try and we punt.


Disaster sequence.

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They get an INT from Josh Allen and don’t get points off of it.


Ugh.

BuckeyeRed27
11-05-2023, 10:27 PM
Who moved? I didn’t see anything on the replay other than Bills players pointing at nothing.

The Operator
11-05-2023, 10:28 PM
Who moved? I didn’t see anything on the replay other than Bills players pointing at nothing.

Feels like this crew would call a deep breath by a player a false start.

BuckeyeRed27
11-05-2023, 10:29 PM
Feels like this crew would call a deep breath by a player a false start.

I just rewound it. I don’t see it.

The Operator
11-05-2023, 10:30 PM
Sack!!!!

The defense is balling!

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Bengals start inside Buffalo territory.


Really need to get points here.

Hillsdale87
11-05-2023, 10:34 PM
Tanner Hudson has been a nice surprise, but I don't understand why they're designing plays with him as the #1 option


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Roy Tucker
11-05-2023, 10:34 PM
Buffalo is blitzing on almost every play.

The Operator
11-05-2023, 10:42 PM
Oh man Boyd drops a TD.

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Sample!!!!!!

Whew!!!

Roy Tucker
11-05-2023, 10:44 PM
Sample was wiiiiiide open.

KoryMac5
11-05-2023, 10:44 PM
Sample looking nimble out there!!

The Operator
11-05-2023, 10:44 PM
PAT is good


21-7 Bengals

Roy Tucker
11-05-2023, 10:45 PM
MNF needs a 3rd guy in the booth. Collinsworth is just talking through his ass most of the time.

The Operator
11-05-2023, 10:48 PM
Uh oh Taylor Britt banged up.

Can’t afford that.

Hillsdale87
11-05-2023, 10:50 PM
I'll take it, but my goodness these refs... Way too involved in this game


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Roy Tucker
11-05-2023, 10:51 PM
That’s a BS call on the Bills.

KoryMac5
11-05-2023, 10:51 PM
Refs are ruining this game...

The Operator
11-05-2023, 10:51 PM
I hope that doesn’t light a fire under Josh Allen. Ugh.

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21-7 Bengals at the half


Bills get the ball to start the 3rd

BuckeyeRed27
11-05-2023, 10:53 PM
That’s a BS call on the Bills.

The grounding? I think that’s the right call. Receiver broke the route but that doesn’t matter.

Stray
11-05-2023, 10:53 PM
Good half. Had that one disastrous drive after the pick, but otherwise perfect on offense. Burrow is as dialed right now as I've ever seen him.

Sea Ray
11-05-2023, 10:54 PM
We’re lucky that the Bills didn’t call a TO with about 3 seconds left and then throw a 4th down Hail Mary. Any idea why they didn’t?

I think the Bengals should have called a TO in order to keep this from happening


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Sea Ray
11-05-2023, 10:55 PM
Good half. Had that one disastrous drive after the pick, but otherwise perfect on offense. Burrow is as dialed right now as I've ever seen him.

He was pretty dialed in last week, 28-32


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Roy Tucker
11-05-2023, 10:57 PM
The grounding? I think that’s the right call. Receiver broke the route but that doesn’t matter.

If they start calling that, there is going to be a lot more grounding calls. I’ve never seen that called before.

BuckeyeRed27
11-05-2023, 11:04 PM
If they start calling that, there is going to be a lot more grounding calls. I’ve never seen that called before.

It gets called occasionally. He threw it 20 yards downfield. Normally it’s at least kinda near the guy.

Sea Ray
11-05-2023, 11:06 PM
Taylor Britt is back


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The Operator
11-05-2023, 11:14 PM
Bills move down the field but the defense rallies to hold it to a FG.


21-10 Bengals

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While we’re on the subject of these refs, that pass by Allen as he was about to get sacked sure looked a lot more like grounding than the one at the end of the first half.

And yet, no flag.

Hillsdale87
11-05-2023, 11:17 PM
And another terrible call...


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KoryMac5
11-05-2023, 11:17 PM
Bills move down the field but the defense rallies to hold it to a FG.


21-10 Bengals

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While we’re on the subject of these refs, that pass by Allen as he was about to get sacked sure looked a lot more like grounding than the one at the end of the first half.

And yet, no flag.

Make up call for the one before the half...

Need to get going and keep their foot on the gas.

Sea Ray
11-05-2023, 11:18 PM
BS flag on Stanley Morgan. He barely touched him


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Sea Ray
11-05-2023, 11:21 PM
Sure looked like they hit Chase early


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Stray
11-05-2023, 11:22 PM
Ends in a punt, but flipping that awful field position was a small win there.

Hillsdale87
11-05-2023, 11:23 PM
They did. Shouldn't have mattered. One of Burrow's few bad throws of the night. Way underthrown


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The Operator
11-05-2023, 11:23 PM
They were moving and Joe under threw a deep ball to a wide open Chase.

Drive stalls. Bengals punt.

The Operator
11-05-2023, 11:28 PM
Defense!!!

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Bengals start with excellent field position near midfield.

Need to capitalize on this.

Stray
11-05-2023, 11:29 PM
I hope teams continue to pass on Anarumo each offseason.

The Operator
11-05-2023, 11:36 PM
Ugh I hope that busted 4th down play doesn’t come back to bite us.

Sea Ray
11-05-2023, 11:38 PM
Ugh I hope that busted 4th down play doesn’t come back to bite us.

It seems like our 4th down success rate is horrible this year. That part of this offense needs help


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The Operator
11-05-2023, 11:40 PM
It seems like our 4th down success rate is horrible this year. That part of this offense needs help


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4th and 5 is a looooong way to go and they were within Mac’s range.


And now the Bills are moving. Ugh.

Stray
11-05-2023, 11:46 PM
I'm letting Mac kick from like 57 in. I didn't like that call.

FUMBLE!

The Operator
11-05-2023, 11:46 PM
Fumble!!!!


Just what we needed!!!!


Wow wow wow

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Time to put this thing to bed. Need a long, methodical drive that ends with a touchdown.

Roy Tucker
11-05-2023, 11:47 PM
Didn’t see who made the tackle but they really flipped the Bills receiver.

Stray
11-05-2023, 11:48 PM
Time for a put em away TD drive.

The Operator
11-05-2023, 11:52 PM
Hate burning a timeout there.

Stray
11-05-2023, 11:52 PM
Tee has had a phenomenal game tonight.

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We're getting huge chunks with the fake WR screen lately

The Operator
11-05-2023, 11:57 PM
Are you kidding me? Out of timeouts with 8 minutes left?


This is ridiculous.

Roy Tucker
11-05-2023, 11:59 PM
Mixon can’t run wide. Keep him between the tackles.

Stray
11-06-2023, 12:00 AM
This is such a tough call. I'd kick but would not hate going for it either.

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TD puts this game to bed. FG leaves them a little life. Still a great drive all things considered.

The Operator
11-06-2023, 12:01 AM
Drive stalls out but Mac gets us 3.


24-10 Bengals


Cincinnati has zero timeouts remaining.

RiverRat13
11-06-2023, 12:01 AM
No more toss sweeps, please.

Hillsdale87
11-06-2023, 12:02 AM
2nd week in a row the Bengals are dominating a good team. And 2nd week in a row they've left way too many points on the field. They're playing well, and could easily be playing better. Very encouraging.


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The Operator
11-06-2023, 12:09 AM
Bills are gonna challenge that?!?!?

That is not a catch.

The Operator
11-06-2023, 12:14 AM
TD Bills.

The game ain’t over.

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Bills convert a 2-pointer

24-18 Bengals

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Gonna need the offense to put this one to bed.


Man oh man.

Stray
11-06-2023, 12:16 AM
They're never easy. TD and XP beats us now.

KoryMac5
11-06-2023, 12:16 AM
Would not be a Bengals game without late game drama...

Need to end the Sunday night streak.

Stray
11-06-2023, 12:16 AM
Love it

Stray
11-06-2023, 12:19 AM
If it's <=60 I'm sending Mac out to win it.

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They have no TOs, you run it and kick FG if you don't make. But we have Burrow and he needs 4 yards to ice it. I like Mac from 54, I think I throw?!?!

Stray
11-06-2023, 12:22 AM
Nvm it's over. That's a big time win. We are still back.

The Operator
11-06-2023, 12:22 AM
First down!!!

That’ll do it!! Whew

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Bengals win!!!

Stray
11-06-2023, 12:24 AM
We are a juggernaut. The AFC are gonna have to deal with us from this point forward. YES

Roy Tucker
11-06-2023, 12:25 AM
Ballgame. A few bobbles but overall, a good game. A healthy Burrow makes all the difference.

The Operator
11-06-2023, 12:26 AM
Well, I proclaimed the season over after the loss to Tennessee.

I looked out at back to back games against San Fran and Buffalo and thought “no way in hell”.


And yet, here we are. Happy to be a moron. This is awesome.

Stray
11-06-2023, 12:26 AM
We're winning against REALLY good teams and leaving points on the field with stupid mistakes. I'm giddy bros. We're back.

oregonred
11-06-2023, 12:26 AM
Great win again on primetime.

5-3 the hard way

RiverRat13
11-06-2023, 12:28 AM
Have to finish more of these drives. This should have been a comfortable win.

Stray
11-06-2023, 12:34 AM
Tee was outstanding. He showed his value when teams take away Chase. He dominated tonight.

KoryMac5
11-06-2023, 12:40 AM
Man it does not get easier...CJ Stroud comin to town next...followed by a huge showdown with the Ravens who are rolling right now.

Stray
11-06-2023, 12:44 AM
Jags are gonna be hard to beat in the AFC. Harder than the Phins or Bills. So will the Ravens if they stay healthy, but that almost never happens.

RiverRat13
11-06-2023, 12:46 AM
Man it does not get easier...CJ Stroud comin to town next...followed by a huge showdown with the Ravens who are rolling right now.

There isn't a gimme left on the schedule.

Meanwhile, the Chiefs once again benefit by playing in a trash division.

Sea Ray
11-06-2023, 12:48 AM
Man it does not get easier...CJ Stroud comin to town next...followed by a huge showdown with the Ravens who are rolling right now.

It is a killer schedule. No breathers


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Redsfaithful
11-06-2023, 12:50 AM
The Bengals are probably currently the best team in football, or 2nd to the Ravens. Beating tier-1 teams without playing complete games is legit. SF and Buffalo are number 2 and number 3 in DVOA and the Bengals just took it to both of them.

Sea Ray
11-06-2023, 12:50 AM
Zac said that if Mixon didn’t get that first down, he was going to send in the FG team. That’s surprising to me. I figured they’d punt it


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oregonred
11-06-2023, 12:50 AM
Jags are gonna be hard to beat in the AFC. Harder than the Phins or Bills. So will the Ravens if they stay healthy, but that almost never happens.

Maybe, but look at the meh list of QBs the Ravens have beat. Including eeking out a win vs. a hobbled Burrow in week 2.

Bengals dominated the Niners and Purdy on the road then came back the next week to beat Josh Allen and the Bills in Primetime. Probably the most impressive two game stretch for any team this year.

WVRed
11-06-2023, 08:59 AM
Man it does not get easier...CJ Stroud comin to town next...followed by a huge showdown with the Ravens who are rolling right now.I posted this in the NFL thread but Houston feels like a trap game. Stroud is on fire and will likely have a contingency of Ohio State fans there watching. Plus going to Baltimore on a short week. Bengals can't afford to drop any games right now.

Good news is the Ravens and Browns play each other so one will come away with a loss. Steelers play the Packers in a battle of mediocre QBs.

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KronoRed
11-06-2023, 10:25 AM
Well, I proclaimed the season over after the loss to Tennessee.

I looked out at back to back games against San Fran and Buffalo and thought “no way in hell”.


And yet, here we are. Happy to be a moron. This is awesome.

Used to be such a start would have sunk them, but with a 17 game schedule and almost everyone making the playoffs, the first 3-4 games of the season are pretty much pre-season games now.

Sea Ray
11-06-2023, 10:38 AM
IMO even with a healthy Burrow, they'd still have lost to Cleveland and Baltimore. Only Tennessee was a game that I'd like to have back

Sea Ray
11-06-2023, 10:52 AM
We're back in line for the playoffs. As of right now everyone in our division would make the playoffs:

20519

WVRed
11-06-2023, 10:55 AM
We're back in line for the playoffs. As of right now everyone in our division would make the playoffs:

20519If the season ended today I'd prefer if we didn't win the North ending up playing the Dolphins.

Miami is a fraud.

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Hillsdale87
11-06-2023, 12:11 PM
If the season ended today I'd prefer if we didn't win the North ending up playing the Dolphins.

Miami is a fraud.

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I'd feel confident against any team except the Ravens right now. I think Bengals can beat the Ravens, but we'd be underdogs. I'd go into any other game expecting the Bengals to win right now


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Sea Ray
11-06-2023, 12:48 PM
I'd feel confident against any team except the Ravens right now. I think Bengals can beat the Ravens, but we'd be underdogs. I'd go into any other game expecting the Bengals to win right now




That's OK. We don't want to peak in early November. We want to peak in January and that's what we've done the past 2 yrs. Traditionally the Ravens peak early and fade late. They're definitely at a peak right now. Can Jackson stay healthy and even if he can, will his play translate to January football? His record is that he folds in the playoffs.

Yeah, as of right now the Ravens are the better team but that may change

KoryMac5
11-06-2023, 01:03 PM
The last time the Bengals won a Sunday night game...

The game was on ESPN in the booth were Theismann, Summerall, and Maguire.

2004 against Miami...

Hillsdale87
11-06-2023, 01:07 PM
That's OK. We don't want to peak in early November. We want to peak in January and that's what we've done the past 2 yrs. Traditionally the Ravens peak early and fade late. They're definitely at a peak right now. Can Jackson stay healthy and even if he can, will his play translate to January football? His record is that he folds in the playoffs.

Yeah, as of right now the Ravens are the better team but that may change

It'll be interesting to see if Monken's offense translates better in the playoffs than Roman's did. It certainly looks better now (also has better receiving weapons). Lamar has been a very good pocket passer so far this year.


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Ky Fried Redleg
11-06-2023, 02:57 PM
I'll take it, but my goodness these refs... Way too involved in this game


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They were awful . More flags seen last night at Paycor than at a North Korean military parade.

Kingspoint
11-06-2023, 07:13 PM
Feel like you're there ;)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2rdQ-UXv2xI

How old is that double-decker bridge? I don't remember that one when I was there in '95.

Kingspoint
11-06-2023, 07:17 PM
Big game and a must win with Balt, Cleveland, and Pitts all winning...have to keep pace.

I was glad that the results were all in before the game began as it placed a sense of urgency (I know, these guys always appear calm, which is good, but that's outward demeanor) and importance on winning this game. Could not lose with all three of the other teams, already ahead of us to begin the week, having won this week. We had to win just to stay in last place without being in a deep hole. Now, Houston is no longer a "rest" game before Baltimore four days later. Houston is probably every bit as good as Buffalo right now.

Kingspoint
11-06-2023, 07:20 PM
That was a BS call and Collinsworth knew it but he wimped out


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Collinsworth pissed me off a couple of times, as he does every game.

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I’m good with the punt. No reason to do the Bills favors right now. Make them go 90 yards.

So many of those calls have cost teams games. Punting was definitely the right decision. We have a good Defense (and of course they proved it).

Kingspoint
11-06-2023, 07:23 PM
That wasn’t a hold. The DT just threw his hands up. BS call.

Looked like Steph Curry trying to make a basket.

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Cappa has killed drives twice in this game.

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No, he didn't. That wasn't a hold.

Kingspoint
11-06-2023, 07:29 PM
Tanner Hudson has been a nice surprise, but I don't understand why they're designing plays with him as the #1 option


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Jordan Poyer is one of the best Safeties in the NFL,...putting together a Hall-of-Fame career, and Micah Hyde has been an All-Pro several times while having a down year so far as he's just coming back from missing a whole season. They have good Corners, too, so Hyde and Poyer tend to cover the deep ball well while also being excellent at covering the run, too. Buffalo is exposed at the Linebacker position, so that suggests that the best plays will be against their Linebackers. That's going to be the TE's. Thought it was a greatly designed gameplan, with Higgins' height and strength being a strength on shorter routes. Poyer got burned on a TD toss, just to show how good the Bengals did perform.

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Buffalo is blitzing on almost every play.

I think that's fear that Burrow will pick them apart if he is given any time at all to throw, and it takes away the deep ball, usually. While it's also a complement that they can't get to him (except through Volson) without adding an additional rusher. Burrow was excellent all game at recognizing the blitz nearly every time and adjusting the blocking for it.

Kingspoint
11-06-2023, 07:38 PM
Ends in a punt, but flipping that awful field position was a small win there.

They flipped it about 85 yards, so that was great.

Kingspoint
11-06-2023, 07:41 PM
They were moving and Joe under threw a deep ball to a wide open Chase.

Drive stalls. Bengals punt.

And, Chase is going to pay heavily for that. As Collinsworth stated, he probably rolled out of bed this morning. When asked about it at practice today, he wasn't saying anyting one way or another as far as how long he's going to be suffering. Sounds like a really bad back right now and that they should keep him out of the Houston game so that he's ready four days later for the Ravens game. If he had to play in the Houston game, he's not going to be ready for the Ravens game just four days later. Now that we have a game that involves Tight Ends, we can afford to let Chase rest for one game and try to help get that back healed with an extra 3 days of rest and a gameday off.

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I hope teams continue to pass on Anarumo each offseason.

That ain't happenin'. He should have been given a job last season. (Btw, I love the way Oakland responded to Griffin yesterday.)

Kingspoint
11-06-2023, 07:44 PM
Are you kidding me? Out of timeouts with 8 minutes left?


This is ridiculous.

I'm not going to question Burrow's decisions to take timeouts when he thinks he needs them.

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Didn’t see who made the tackle but they really flipped the Bills receiver.

Pratt?

Kingspoint
11-06-2023, 07:47 PM
We are a juggernaut. The AFC are gonna have to deal with us from this point forward. YES

We are still alone in last place in the AFC North.

Kingspoint
11-06-2023, 07:50 PM
We're winning against REALLY good teams and leaving points on the field with stupid mistakes. I'm giddy bros. We're back.

The Defense was going to one of "trying to get better every week" as our yound Secondary gets experience. With Anarumo in charge, there was never going to be any question about them not being very good by season's end, it was just a matter of trying to do enough each game as they get better to win the game. So far, so good. They have 5 wins in 8 games and are getting better by the week.

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There isn't a gimme left on the schedule.

Meanwhile, the Chiefs once again benefit by playing in a trash division.

...and they've already been gifted two wins they shouldn't have had. Chiefs should have 4 losses right now.

Kingspoint
11-06-2023, 07:52 PM
It is a killer schedule. No breathers


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I do think they'd be wise to give Chase off next week because of the short schedule before Baltimore. A healthy Chase against Baltimore is more important than a less than healthy Chase against Houston and an even unhealthier Chase (if he can even go) against Baltimore.

Kingspoint
11-06-2023, 07:56 PM
Used to be such a start would have sunk them, but with a 17 game schedule and almost everyone making the playoffs, the first 3-4 games of the season are pretty much pre-season games now.

56.2% of teams do not make the playoffs.

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We're back in line for the playoffs. As of right now everyone in our division would make the playoffs:

20519

Not if the Jets win tonight.

Kingspoint
11-06-2023, 08:01 PM
If the season ended today I'd prefer if we didn't win the North ending up playing the Dolphins.

Miami is a fraud.

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Kansas City is the biggest fraud. They should be 5-4 and looking from the outside in right now on the playoffs, while one of those losses would be to the Jets, making them 5-2 going into tonight's game and I forgot what other team got screwed by the refs and gave the game to the Chiefs. But, I think it was the game directly after the Jets' game, the Vikings game.

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I'd feel confident against any team except the Ravens right now. I think Bengals can beat the Ravens, but we'd be underdogs. I'd go into any other game expecting the Bengals to win right now


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We aren't right now anything like the team we're going to be a month from now. Our improvement will continue each week.

WVRed
11-06-2023, 09:35 PM
Kansas City will always get the benefit of the whistle.

Miami can't do anything against winning teams. They can score 70 against the Broncos of the world but when they play a real team they fall apart.

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Kingspoint
11-06-2023, 09:57 PM
Kansas City will always get the benefit of the whistle.

Miami can't do anything against winning teams. They can score 70 against the Broncos of the world but when they play a real team they fall apart.

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MIA has been playing without Jaylen Ramsey all season (he got injured yesterday in his first game back), and they've not had Armstead for most of the season. That would be like the Bengals not having Orlando Brown and not having Logan Wilson.

And, Achane has missed the last three weeks (one more week to go plus their bye this week, as he should be back for Week 12). That would be like the Bengals not having Mixon.

oregonred
11-06-2023, 11:34 PM
The last time the Bengals won a Sunday night game...

The game was on ESPN in the booth were Theismann, Summerall, and Maguire.

2004 against Miami...

Regular season. But they just won a Sunday Nighr playoff game 10 months ago.

Also a current NFL best six game Primetime home winning streak

Big Game Joe

oregonred
11-06-2023, 11:36 PM
IMO even with a healthy Burrow, they'd still have lost to Cleveland and Baltimore. Only Tennessee was a game that I'd like to have back

They lost 27-24 with an immobile statue for a QB that couldn't throw 10 yds downfield. Bad luck the Ravens home game was in the first month of this season

Kingspoint
11-06-2023, 11:55 PM
They lost 27-24 with an immobile statue for a QB that couldn't throw 10 yds downfield. Bad luck the Ravens home game was in the first month of this season

He couldn't even move inside the pocket. 10 yards past the LOS was asking a lot. And, how many passes were dropped?

bucksfan2
11-07-2023, 10:11 AM
I am old enough to remember when many people though Joe was out for the year, they should rest him and tank the season.

They looked good Sunday night. And just ripped off two wins against playoff teams. It seems as if Joe is getting his swagger back, Tee is playing much better, and Lou has a good understanding of the current defense.

Cam Taylor Britt looks like a stud. Having a lock down CB in the NFL can go a long way to a teams success.

Sea Ray
11-07-2023, 10:20 AM
I am old enough to remember when many people though Joe was out for the year, they should rest him and tank the season.

They looked good Sunday night. And just ripped off two wins against playoff teams. It seems as if Joe is getting his swagger back, Tee is playing much better, and Lou has a good understanding of the current defense.

Cam Taylor Britt looks like a stud. Having a lock down CB in the NFL can go a long way to a teams success.

You bring up a good point. Us fans were led astray by several medical folks who chimed in and said after Joe reinjured himself that he would not recover unless he sat for two months or so. These folks were clearly proven wrong by Joe. Where are they now?

UKFlounder
11-07-2023, 10:36 AM
Things are looking better, but the Bengals are still in last place, and 0-2 within the division. Any more slip ups will put a playoff spot in jeopardy.

I like how they’re playing, but it’s still a tough situation, especially if the other division teams keep winning.

WrongVerb
11-07-2023, 10:43 AM
You bring up a good point. Us fans were led astray by several medical folks who chimed in and said after Joe reinjured himself that he would not recover unless he sat for two months or so. These folks were clearly proven wrong by Joe. Where are they now?

It's amazing how wrong people can be when they engage in idle speculation without all the information of people on the inside, isn't it?

Sea Ray
11-07-2023, 10:48 AM
Things are looking better, but the Bengals are still in last place, and 0-2 within the division. Any more slip ups will put a playoff spot in jeopardy.

I like how they’re playing, but it’s still a tough situation, especially if the other division teams keep winning.

They've still got their work cut out for them but a silver lining to their tough schedule is that they have an opportunity to knock off a lot of teams who may be competing with them for WC spots or seeding

KoryMac5
11-07-2023, 12:24 PM
You bring up a good point. Us fans were led astray by several medical folks who chimed in and said after Joe reinjured himself that he would not recover unless he sat for two months or so. These folks were clearly proven wrong by Joe. Where are they now?

Twitter/X is loaded with PT's and Doc's speculating on injuries and recovery timelines its the wild west out there.

Athletes are a different breed....when responding to injuries.

You and I may get 1 week of PT for an hour they get treatment for multiple hours which speeds up recovery time. Plus we as fans don't get to see the medicals.

So a calf may take out a recreational runner like me for 6 weeks where as a MLB or NFL player might be able to perform at an earlier timeline.

I am always amazed at how quickly athletes recover...

Chase will be an interesting to watch in regards to his back injury going forward he sounded like he may not play this week but given the medical staff he has access to he may recover in time for Sunday.

Bob Sheed
11-07-2023, 01:56 PM
The lesson here is:

Never speculate on the interwebz, unless you are willing to endure the wrath of others who speculated on the interwebz, but turned out to be correct, or at least, not as incorrect.

Also, loving the cognitive bias here, in regard to Burrow's calf injury and whether he should have rested it or not. It turned out ok this time. Nice.

I had a relative that was a reckless driver. Flying around hairpin turns on mountain-sides, in the rain. Stupid crap like that. We would plead with him to slow down, but he never would. His rationale? He's never been in a wreck, so he must not be doing anything wrong.

"Burrow made it through the calf injury, without sitting the first few games, so he must not have needed to sit, and anyone who suggested otherwise, is a quack doctor."

Seems legit. Go with that, interwebz chorus. :lol:

I think it was Russian Roulette to play Burrow in the first few games. Just because a bullet wasn't in the chamber each time they pulled the trigger, doesn't change my mind. YMMV.

WrongVerb
11-07-2023, 03:02 PM
Having no education and experience in sports medicine, physiology, orthopedics, or any other specialty that would give some insight, and having no access to anyone's medical files, I can't imagine why one would feel justified forming any kind of an opinion on the matter. Better to realize that that the people taking care of a $250M+ investment DO have the expertise and judgement to make the best decisions for both the player and the team, and any input I, or any other lay person might offer would probably send them into hysterics.

Sea Ray
11-07-2023, 03:06 PM
The lesson here is:

Never speculate on the interwebz, unless you are willing to endure the wrath of others who speculated on the interwebz, but turned out to be correct, or at least, not as incorrect.

Also, loving the cognitive bias here, in regard to Burrow's calf injury and whether he should have rested it or not. It turned out ok this time. Nice.

I had a relative that was a reckless driver. Flying around hairpin turns on mountain-sides, in the rain. Stupid crap like that. We would plead with him to slow down, but he never would. His rationale? He's never been in a wreck, so he must not be doing anything wrong.

"Burrow made it through the calf injury, without sitting the first few games, so he must not have needed to sit, and anyone who suggested otherwise, is a quack doctor."

Seems legit. Go with that, interwebz chorus. :lol:

I think it was Russian Roulette to play Burrow in the first few games. Just because a bullet wasn't in the chamber each time they pulled the trigger, doesn't change my mind. YMMV.

Whether he should have played the first few games is something different than what I was referring to. I picked up this issue after the decision to play him had already been made AND he reinjured the calf. At that point we were told that he'd have to sit out for awhile or else it wouldn't heal. That turned out not to be true

WVRed
11-07-2023, 03:37 PM
Things are looking better, but the Bengals are still in last place, and 0-2 within the division. Any more slip ups will put a playoff spot in jeopardy.

I like how they’re playing, but it’s still a tough situation, especially if the other division teams keep winning.They are currently the last team into the playoffs despite being in last place in the division. Helps beating up on the NFC West (4-0).

The race will get more interesting as the season progresses. The Bengals currently play or have played everyone ahead of them in the AFC standings except for the Dolphins. If they peel off some wins it could really open things up.

The problem I see is this week coming up. Stroud looks like the real deal, Chase could be out, and the Ravens are four days after.

The division is very winnable. Baltimore has a very tough slate with the Browns, Bengals, Chargers, Rams, Jaguars, Niners, Dolphins, and Steelers. I'm honestly more worried about Cleveland and think the division could come down to Week 18.

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KoryMac5
11-07-2023, 04:20 PM
The lesson here is:

Never speculate on the interwebz, unless you are willing to endure the wrath of others who speculated on the interwebz, but turned out to be correct, or at least, not as incorrect.

Also, loving the cognitive bias here, in regard to Burrow's calf injury and whether he should have rested it or not. It turned out ok this time. Nice.

I had a relative that was a reckless driver. Flying around hairpin turns on mountain-sides, in the rain. Stupid crap like that. We would plead with him to slow down, but he never would. His rationale? He's never been in a wreck, so he must not be doing anything wrong.

"Burrow made it through the calf injury, without sitting the first few games, so he must not have needed to sit, and anyone who suggested otherwise, is a quack doctor."

Seems legit. Go with that, interwebz chorus. :lol:

I think it was Russian Roulette to play Burrow in the first few games. Just because a bullet wasn't in the chamber each time they pulled the trigger, doesn't change my mind. YMMV.

I know I went back and forth on should or shouldn't he play...I think a lot of us did.

Burrow is a huge investment for the team if they let him play it could be because they got really good medical advice on the risks of him doing so.

From what I understood the tweak in the Baltimore game was a separate from the original strain which could have changed to timetable.

Regardless on to Houston and hoping Chase is ready to play.

Sea Ray
11-07-2023, 04:22 PM
They are currently the last team into the playoffs despite being in last place in the division. Helps beating up on the NFC West (4-0).

The race will get more interesting as the season progresses. The Bengals currently play or have played everyone ahead of them in the AFC standings except for the Dolphins. If they peel off some wins it could really open things up.

The problem I see is this week coming up. Stroud looks like the real deal, Chase could be out, and the Ravens are four days after.

The division is very winnable. Baltimore has a very tough slate with the Browns, Bengals, Chargers, Rams, Jaguars, Niners, Dolphins, and Steelers. I'm honestly more worried about Cleveland and think the division could come down to Week 18.

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So you think we should root for Clev this week? I'm torn

WVRed
11-07-2023, 04:26 PM
So you think we should root for Clev this week? I'm tornI would. Anything to muddy up the waters.

As long as the Bengals take care of business.

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KoryMac5
11-07-2023, 06:03 PM
I know the Bengals don't normally talk contract but I am hoping they get something done with Reader..

79.0 PFF and I feel he is getting better as the season goes on.

Kingspoint
11-08-2023, 05:59 AM
Things are looking better, but the Bengals are still in last place, and 0-2 within the division. Any more slip ups will put a playoff spot in jeopardy.

I like how they’re playing, but it’s still a tough situation, especially if the other division teams keep winning.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJprEyXMrIk

Kingspoint
11-08-2023, 07:39 PM
From NBC Sports w/ NBC Sports' comments.

Texans CB Steven Nelson (neck/back) did not practice on Wednesday. Nelson is considered questionable to play on Sunday against the Bengals. With fellow cornerback Derek Stingley Jr. still not back from the IR, the Texans’ secondary could be comprised of Shaq Griffin and Ka’dar Hollman at outside cornerback with Tavierre Thomas at nickel. That’s not ideal against this Bengals passing attack.

Source: Aaron Wilson

Hopefully, Higgins' new injury (hamstring) will not be an issue (he got in a limited session today). With Houston missing some Cornerbacks, sitting Chase makes even more sense, but Higgins has to play. Would like to see Higgins add to his breakout week vs the Bills (8 of 9 targets for 110 scoreless yards, as the Bengals looked to all of their TE's to score the touchdowns). Have against the Texans the 10 of 12 for 120 yards and 2 TD's I predicted for him against the Bills.

Kingspoint
11-08-2023, 07:41 PM
From NBC Sports w/ NBC Sports' comments...

Texans EDGE Will Anderson Jr. (hamstring) did not practice on Wednesday. Will Anderson Jr. limped off the field on Sunday and is now unable to get on the field for practice on Wednesday. His status for Sunday against the Bengals is now up in the air. If Anderson were to miss time, it would be a brutal blow for the Texans defense. The rookie has been dominant so far this season, ranking 3rd in pass rush win rate and 1st in run stop win rate.

Source: Aaron Wilson

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From NBC Sports w/ NBC Sports' comments...

Bengals WR Ja’Marr Chase (back) did not practice on Wednesday. Chase’s absence from practice isn’t a shock after some cryptic quotes earlier in the week. “I’m just going to support my teammates, man. Let those guys do what they got to do. Only thing I can do is get healthy for the team.” Chase injured his back when he landed directly on it after jumping to try and make a catch on Sunday night against the Bills. He was seen on the sideline using a heat wrap and trying to loosen his back up, but he’s apparently still stiff. He’ll have another couple of days to get back on the practice field if he wants to play on Sunday against the Texans.

Source: Paul Dehner Jr.

Kingspoint
11-08-2023, 07:51 PM
HOU plays the Bengals this week after their 475-yard performance by the 2023 Rookie-of-the-Year C. J. Stroud, but Stroud has been doing this all season. For the first time this season, he's going to have all five of his top Receivers healthy [Starters Nico Collins and Robert Woods (actually, Woods will probably miss one more game), Rookie Tank Dell, Deep Threat Noah Brown and TE Dalton Schultz]. Singletary, now healthy, has taken over Starting RB duties over Dameon Pierce (questionable). Houston's Defense has given up only 9 more points that JAX's Defense

Kingspoint
11-08-2023, 08:01 PM
From Hobson...

Nov 08, 2023 at 10:22 AM

Diageo, a global leader in premium beverage alcohol, has partnered with the Cincinnati Bengals around its Cîroc, Crown Royal and Guinness brands. The multi-year partnership kicks off with the 2023 season and includes all three brands being served throughout Paycor Stadium, including a dedicated Crown Royal location.

Bengals fans of legal drinking age will now have access to a variety of Crown Royal and Cîroc RTD offerings throughout the stadium, and Guinness will be available on draught at designated locations throughout the building. The Crown Royal brand has partnered with the team to create a branded destination – "The Ruler's Crown" – located on the east side of the stadium.

A strong believer in responsible celebration (don't forget where you parked), Diageo will be encouraging responsible drinking through Crown Royal messaging during Bengals gameday at Paycor Stadium, and through the marketing of Guinness 0, the famed stout brand's non-alcoholic offering. All three brands will be activating at the Bengals Pregame at The Banks throughout the regular season and Crown Royal will be activating its "Purple Bag Project" at Paycor Stadium during the team's Salute to Service game on Nov. 12. "The Purple Bag Project" allows fans to turn donated Crown Royal Bags into care packages for active American military heroes around the world.

"Nothing brings the Cincinnati and surrounding community together like the passion for their beloved Bengals (and getting drunk at tail-gating and in the stands)," said Rick Pineda, Director of Sports, Diageo North America.

Kingspoint
11-08-2023, 08:25 PM
From Rotoworld w/ Rotoworld comments:

Texans S Jimmie Ward (hamstring) did not practice Wednesday. Ward left the Texans’ Week 9 game with the hamstring issue and did not return. His backup, M.J. Stewart also left with an injury. Stewart was placed on injured reserve earlier this week. Ward looks unlikely to play on Sunday meaning the Texans will be digging deep into their reserves for a Week 10 matchup with the Bengals.

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From NBC Sports w/ NBC Sports' comments...

Texans RB Dameon Pierce (ankle) doesn’t practice on Wednesday. Pierce missed Week 9 with the ankle injury and is not off to a great start in his chances of suiting up on Sunday against the Bengals. With Pierce sidelined in Week 9, Devin Singletary played 76 percent of the team’s snaps and handled 72 percent of their rushing attempts. Mike Boone did run as many routes as Singletary but wasn’t targeted.

KoryMac5
11-08-2023, 09:57 PM
Higgins injury according to sources on X is the worse of the 2 for the wide outs.

Soft tissue injuries like hamstrings are tough when they occur midweek...

Kingspoint
11-08-2023, 09:58 PM
Higgins injury according to sources on X is the worse of the 2 for the wide outs.

Soft tissue injuries like hamstrings are tough when they occur midweek...

What's "X"?

WVRed
11-08-2023, 10:06 PM
What's "X"?Formerly known as Twitter.

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Kingspoint
11-08-2023, 10:20 PM
Formerly known as Twitter.

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Got rid of my Smart Phone 2-1/2 years ago. Got rid of my facebook account four years ago.

Life is so much better.

Kingspoint
11-09-2023, 07:58 PM
From NBC Sports w/ NBC Sports' comments...

Texans K Ka’imi Fairbairn hasn’t practiced since departing the team’s Week 9 victory over the Bucs with a quad injury. Unless Fairbairn can return on Friday, Matt Ammendola will handle kicking duties against the Bengals.

Texans FB Andrew Beck missed Wednesday and Thursday’s practices with ankle, elbow and shoulder issues. Beck’s status is more important than usual since Dameon Pierce (ankle) isn’t practicing.



Speaking after Thursday’s practice, Ja’Marr Chase (back) said he’s going to attempt to play Week 10 against the Texans. “I just have to be there for my teammates right now, and if I can go, I’m gonna go,” Chase said. “In my head, I’m playing. So until further notice, we’ll see.” Chase also said he felt “way better” than he did Monday after landing hard on his back Sunday evening in Buffalo. As you surely noticed, there is wiggle room in Chase’s comments — “if,” “in my head,” etc. — but it is an indication Chase is at least genuinely questionable. He’s also undoubtedly feeling more pressure to play with Tee Higgins sidelined with a hamstring injury. It is possible, if not probable, that Chase ends up a game-time call for Sunday’s 1PM ET tilt.

Source: profootballnetwork.com


Dameon Pierce (ankle) remained sidelined for Thursday’s practice. It is looks Pierce is prepared to leave the Texans’ backfield to Devin Singletary for another week. Struggling even before what is looking like a multi-week ankle issue, Pierce is trending dangerously close to droppable in 12-team leagues as bye week crunches are compounded by shaky playoff positioning. Mike Boone is apparently the backup in Houston with Pierce sidelined.


Well, this explains why Chase is going to try to play. Dang!...

NFL Network’s Ian Rapoport reports Tee Higgins (hamstring) is expected to miss Week 10 against the Texans. Higgins popped off for eight receptions and 110 yards in the Bengals’ Week 9 win over the Bills, and then popped up on the team’s injury report on Wednesday. Now expected to miss Week 10, head coach Zac Taylor said the team will evaluate Higgins on a week-to-week basis, suggesting it’s possible he could miss more than this one game. Fantasy managers in deeper PPR leagues in need of options can take a flyer on Trenton Irwin, who caught eight passes for 60 yards on 10 targets when Higgins was ruled out in Week 5. Tyler Boyd will also see a bump in his fantasy upside for Week 10.

Source: Ian Rapoport


Ja’Marr Chase (back) was limited in Thursday’s practice. Chase was initially thought to be out for the second-straight day, but he popped up late in uniform and was able to log a limited session. Tee Higgins was surprisingly out on Thursday after logging a limited session on Wednesday.

Kingspoint
11-09-2023, 09:16 PM
From NBC Sports w/ NBC Sports' comments...

Robert Woods (foot) returned to practice on Thursday. Woods hasn’t played six Week 6, and Thursday marks his first return to the practice field. We’ll see if he has a chance to suit up on Sunday after the team releases their game statuses on Friday, but Woods will be off the fantasy radar even if active. The emergence of Nico Collins and Tank Dell presumably leaves little leftover for Woods, unless the team pivots off two of their top playmakers to give him some opportunities. Through six games, Woods has 22 receptions for 227 yards and one touchdown but hasn’t caught more than three passes in a game since Week 2.

Source: Aaron Wilson


Nico Collins (calf) did not practice on Thursday. Collins wasn’t spotted at the media portion of practice, although the same was said of him on Wednesday before the team later listed him as limited. We’ll check back in with any updates if the team later lists him as limited, but a Thursday DNP would be some cause for concern. Collins is clearly dealing with some sort of ailment, but the hope is it won’t keep him out for Week 10 against the Bengals, where he would be a WR2.

Source: Aaron Wilson

RiverRat13
11-10-2023, 11:17 AM
I know the Bengals don't normally talk contract but I am hoping they get something done with Reader..

79.0 PFF and I feel he is getting better as the season goes on.

The Bengals have a ton of cap room right now for 2024 as you still have another year before Burrow gets expensive. Some (but not too much) of that will be eaten up by a Chase extension, but there's still going to be room to use the franchise tag on either Reader, Higgins, or (can't believe I'm typing this) Jonah Williams. I'll actually be shocked if they don't use the tag knowing that they have short term cap space (and I don't think you have to put that money in escrow if the player signs the tag offer after March 31st - a plus for the ownership).

With Reader's age, they could probably get away with offering him a 3-year extension and front-load the deal for the cap hit to be mostly in 2024 to avoid the tag. You definitely aren't going to get that with Tee and Jonah looking for their second contracts. So the optimal thing would be to sign Reader to an extension and tag one of the other two, but we know the Bengals don't like giving out third contracts, so who knows what happens.

bucksfan2
11-10-2023, 11:25 AM
The Bengals have a ton of cap room right now for 2024 as you still have another year before Burrow gets expensive. Some (but not too much) of that will be eaten up by a Chase extension, but there's still going to be room to use the franchise tag on either Reader, Higgins, or (can't believe I'm typing this) Jonah Williams. I'll actually be shocked if they don't use the tag knowing that they have short term cap space (and I don't think you have to put that money in escrow if the player signs the tag offer after March 31st - a plus for the ownership).

With Reader's age, they could probably get away with offering him a 3-year extension and front-load the deal for the cap hit to be mostly in 2024 to avoid the tag. You definitely aren't going to get that with Tee and Jonah looking for their second contracts. So the optimal thing would be to sign Reader to an extension and tag one of the other two, but we know the Bengals don't like giving out third contracts, so who knows what happens.

The Bengals don't like offering guys their 3rd contract, see Vonn Bell. I would extend Reader, think he is a key linchpin to this D and they don't have a ready replacement for him.

Williams made himself some money this year with his play. I almost would extend him before I extended Higgins. I think WR is easier to replace than RT, especially when you have Chase on the other side.

Sea Ray
11-10-2023, 11:27 AM
The Bengals don't like offering guys their 3rd contract, see Vonn Bell. I would extend Reader, think he is a key linchpin to this D and they don't have a ready replacement for him.

Williams made himself some money this year with his play. I almost would extend him before I extended Higgins. I think WR is easier to replace than RT, especially when you have Chase on the other side.

I think keeping Higgins is a pipe dream. Won't happen in today's (salary cap) NFL. I think he's gone but the team will be fine

Tony Cloninger
11-10-2023, 01:10 PM
They need to rethink their no 3rd contract policy. Reader is an exception. Hilton would be one too. Not resigning Larry O was a mistake too. That DT spot lacks depth. Browns are so much better on D because of their DT roster. They are still not paying for the Watson contract when they keep pushing money forward not just from him but even Garrett restructuring.

I would love to see Joe win without Tee and Chase for these 2 games. There’s some people who say those 2 are the reason he’s very good. Forgetting lack of running game and OL issues. Plus having them win and then healthy again with that much rest would be a great benefit playing Pittsburgh. You need to bury that team early in a game.

WVRed
11-10-2023, 04:41 PM
Higgins is already out.

Possibility Chuck Sizzle could be back as an outside receiver.


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Kingspoint
11-12-2023, 08:23 AM
Bengals added two WR's from their practice squad.

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They need to rethink their no 3rd contract policy. Reader is an exception. Hilton would be one too. Not resigning Larry O was a mistake too. That DT spot lacks depth. Browns are so much better on D because of their DT roster. They are still not paying for the Watson contract when they keep pushing money forward not just from him but even Garrett restructuring.

I would love to see Joe win without Tee and Chase for these 2 games. There’s some people who say those 2 are the reason he’s very good. Forgetting lack of running game and OL issues. Plus having them win and then healthy again with that much rest would be a great benefit playing Pittsburgh. You need to bury that team early in a game.

Nobody can ever use Cleveland as an example of how to run a football team and be expected to be taken seriously.

Sea Ray
11-12-2023, 02:09 PM
What do ya know? They converted a 4th down. Maybe that's a good sign

Roy Tucker
11-12-2023, 02:35 PM
Stroud can make those tight window throws.

Hillsdale87
11-12-2023, 02:47 PM
Stroud is very impressive.


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RiverRat13
11-12-2023, 02:50 PM
Getting abused up front. Texans look faster overall, too.

Roy Tucker
11-12-2023, 02:55 PM
Bengals trying to feature Mixon. Someone tell him to run just north and south. Once he takes a sideways cut, he’s toast.

RiverRat13
11-12-2023, 02:55 PM
Bengals actually got a big push on first down but Mixon somehow only got 3 yards. Just zero explosion from that position.

RedTeamGo!
11-12-2023, 02:55 PM
Looks like OSU finally has a good nfl Qb

The Operator
11-12-2023, 03:03 PM
This had all the makings of a trap game.

Ugh.

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Texans just moved past 50% win expectancy.

Sea Ray
11-12-2023, 03:09 PM
We got a nice call on that fumble

Hillsdale87
11-12-2023, 03:09 PM
OL has been terrible today


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The Operator
11-12-2023, 03:12 PM
I’m following on my phone since the wife unit made plans for us today during the game.


But… looks like absolutely nothing downfield?

Sea Ray
11-12-2023, 03:13 PM
BS call on Stanley Morgan. His feet was still inbounds. The helmet thing is BS

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I’m following on my phone since the wife unit made plans for us today during the game.


But… looks like absolutely nothing downfield?

We're not playing very good. We'd be way behind if not for those two turnovers

Sea Ray
11-12-2023, 03:19 PM
These Houston receivers are WIDE open

The Operator
11-12-2023, 03:20 PM
These Houston receivers are WIDE open

Our secondary really is bad at times.

The Operator
11-12-2023, 03:25 PM
Texans take the lead on a field goal.

I haven’t been watching the action, but all in all, looks like a pretty woeful half of football aside from the opening drive.


Hopefully they can make some adjustments at halftime. Did the Bengals win the toss and ask for the ball, or did the Texans win it and defer? The Bengals really seem to love taking the ball first even when they win the toss.

Me, I’d prefer having the ball coming out of halftime.

RiverRat13
11-12-2023, 03:26 PM
The Bengals are lucky to only be down 3. They got beat down everywhere but the scoreboard that half.

Playadlc
11-12-2023, 03:26 PM
Complete domination by Houston. Lucky to only be down 3.

Hillsdale87
11-12-2023, 03:30 PM
Where does Stroud rank among NFL QBs at this point? I think you could make the argument that he's only behind Mahomes, Burrow, Allen, and Lamar. He looks incredible


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Hillsdale87
11-12-2023, 03:43 PM
Defense is putting up no resistance. DL getting dominated


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The Operator
11-12-2023, 03:44 PM
Yea, they’re gonna lose this game.

WVRed
11-12-2023, 03:46 PM
Was worried about this game going in and Stroud is outclassing Burrow on his own turf.

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Sea Ray
11-12-2023, 03:47 PM
Where does Stroud rank among NFL QBs at this point? I think you could make the argument that he's only behind Mahomes, Burrow, Allen, and Lamar. He looks incredible


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I'd still put Trevor Lawrence ahead of him but he's only halfway through his rookie year. Incredible how many really good QBs are in the AFC and how few good QBs are in the NFC

Roy Tucker
11-12-2023, 03:49 PM
Besides the defense not being able to contain Stroud, they are missing a full-function Chase.

RiverRat13
11-12-2023, 03:52 PM
I'd like to thank the Panthers for allowing another excellent QB into the AFC and instead taking a 5'9 180 lb QB.

RiverRat13
11-12-2023, 03:55 PM
That sack was inevitable after the Boyd drop. Right on cue.

Assembly Hall
11-12-2023, 03:57 PM
I really thought I would be getting the Bengals today up here. No dice.

Roy Tucker
11-12-2023, 04:00 PM
Bengals are in big trouble.

RiverRat13
11-12-2023, 04:01 PM
Myles Murphy can't set the edge after being blocked by a WR.

Playadlc
11-12-2023, 04:01 PM
This is embarrassing.

If I see one more 3 and out I'll puke.

The Operator
11-12-2023, 04:01 PM
Beat SF, beat BUF, get your ass handed to you by Houston.


Football.

Hillsdale87
11-12-2023, 04:02 PM
I'd still put Trevor Lawrence ahead of him but he's only halfway through his rookie year. Incredible how many really good QBs are in the AFC and how few good QBs are in the NFC

I would definitely not.


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Roy Tucker
11-12-2023, 04:08 PM
Some odd calls today by the refs.

RedsManRick
11-12-2023, 04:09 PM
Where does Stroud rank among NFL QBs at this point? I think you could make the argument that he's only behind Mahomes, Burrow, Allen, and Lamar. He looks incredible

Before the draft I had posted somewhere that I thought Stroud reminded me of Burrow. Accuracy, anticipation, pocket confidence, sneaky athleticism. This game is doing nothing to change my mind about that. If only we could give Burrow more than 2.5 seconds to throw. Both O and D line are getting overrun.

The Operator
11-12-2023, 04:10 PM
Defense better not give up another score or this baby’s over.

pedro
11-12-2023, 04:12 PM
Some odd calls today by the refs.

They’ve hit Burrow late a couple of times.


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The Operator
11-12-2023, 04:18 PM
Chase!!!!

Roy Tucker
11-12-2023, 04:19 PM
Huge play by Burrow and Chase. Bengals back in this game.

The Operator
11-12-2023, 04:19 PM
Pretty beautiful deep ball on the run

Josh Allen-esque

Hillsdale87
11-12-2023, 04:23 PM
Bengals are fooled on the bootleg every time


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pedro
11-12-2023, 04:25 PM
The Bengals defense has played terrible today.


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The Operator
11-12-2023, 04:26 PM
And they’re gonna give it right back up

Playadlc
11-12-2023, 04:27 PM
Getting carved up.

The Operator
11-12-2023, 04:27 PM
That was truly pathetic.

Defense might as well have been a MAC team out there.

Hillsdale87
11-12-2023, 04:27 PM
Embarrassing performance by the defense, but Stroud is so in control


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Roy Tucker
11-12-2023, 04:28 PM
And just like that, Stroud just takes them downfield for a TD. Bengals have no solution for him today.

The Operator
11-12-2023, 04:30 PM
Can’t punt 5 straight times and expect to win.

Combine that with an awful performance why the defense and here we are.

The Operator
11-12-2023, 04:34 PM
That’s the game.


Awful.

Roy Tucker
11-12-2023, 04:35 PM
Burrow looked like Kyle McCord on that INT.

RedTeamGo!
11-12-2023, 04:35 PM
That was truly pathetic.

Defense might as well have been a MAC team out there.

Hey man don’t disrespect the Toledo rockets like that

oregonred
11-12-2023, 04:41 PM
Burrow looked like Kyle McCord on that INT.

Odd take. McCord is getting better and looked great last night

oregonred
11-12-2023, 04:43 PM
The AFC is just ridiculous. Now adding in CJ Stroud it's now absurd the gap between the two conferences.

Looks like its the Ravens year in the North. Going to be a tough battle now just to make the playoffs

The Operator
11-12-2023, 04:46 PM
Awful game by Burrow.

Wow.

Playadlc
11-12-2023, 04:48 PM
That might be the dumbest pass in Burrow's career.

The Operator
11-12-2023, 04:49 PM
Back to back long drives with the game on the line culminated in interceptions.

Burrow really took a step back today from how great he’d been recently.

RedsManRick
11-12-2023, 04:49 PM
Not sure I've ever seen a stupider pass than that from Burrow. Decision-making usually his forte'.

The Operator
11-12-2023, 04:50 PM
Some hope!!!!

Roy Tucker
11-12-2023, 04:50 PM
Houston was just the better team today. Stroud had a big day and the Houston……

Whoops. NoW there is a game changer INT. Holy cow.

The Operator
11-12-2023, 04:50 PM
What was Houston doing even throwing the ball? Lol

The Operator
11-12-2023, 04:53 PM
Touchdown!


Still need a stop from the defense now.

Roy Tucker
11-12-2023, 04:53 PM
Bengal TD. 27-24 Texans. Crazy.

The Operator
11-12-2023, 04:57 PM
A stop!


It will all come down to this.

oregonred
11-12-2023, 04:58 PM
Crazy they have a chance to tie or win this

Roy Tucker
11-12-2023, 04:59 PM
Wow.

Hillsdale87
11-12-2023, 05:05 PM
Boyd with two stone cold drops today. Brutal


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The Operator
11-12-2023, 05:05 PM
Tie ball game.


Need the defense to work some magic now.

Roy Tucker
11-12-2023, 05:05 PM
Tie game. But Boyd *has* to make that catch.

Playadlc
11-12-2023, 05:05 PM
Boyd drops a wide open TD. No one drops more big passes than him. No one.

Playadlc
11-12-2023, 05:10 PM
Ball game.

The Operator
11-12-2023, 05:11 PM
Welp. 5 straight punts, 2 interceptions and a dropped TD.


Not sure what else you could expect but to lose.

CTA513
11-12-2023, 05:11 PM
Such a huge drop off in tackling for the Bengals defense this season.

The Operator
11-12-2023, 05:12 PM
Game.

Kick made it by like a foot.

Hillsdale87
11-12-2023, 05:12 PM
Really awful loss. That Boyd drop could cost them the season. Thursday is a must win


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The Operator
11-12-2023, 05:15 PM
Really doubting that this is a playoff team.


Can’t start the season on a losing streak every single year and hope to have a magical winning streak.

Roy Tucker
11-12-2023, 05:15 PM
Bengals didn’t deserve to win that game but in the NFL, you have to grab a game when you have a chance even when you don’t deserve it.

Poor tackling on that last play and the whole game. Gave away the game.

oregonred
11-12-2023, 05:17 PM
Really doubting that this is a playoff team.


Can’t start the season on a losing streak every single year and hope to have a magical winning streak.

Agree. Not with a 1st place schedule and the AFC right now. The AFC South was supposed to be the easy division, but now 0-2 this year.

Playadlc
11-12-2023, 05:18 PM
544 yards given up.

Still can't believe Boyd dropped that.

oregonred
11-12-2023, 05:18 PM
What happened to Hendrickson. That was a freaky looking injury

oregonred
11-12-2023, 05:21 PM
Browns driving with a chance to win.

Headed for a last place schedule in 2024

Petition to join the NFC

Hillsdale87
11-12-2023, 05:24 PM
This loss reminds me of the one to the Mike White Jets 2 years ago. Stroud is obviously better than White, but similar game where defense just didn't show up. Still had a chance to win but let it slip away.


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Oxilon
11-12-2023, 05:26 PM
There aren’t any gimmes in the NFL. Going 5-3 the rest of the way should get them to the playoffs.

Sea Ray
11-12-2023, 05:28 PM
There aren’t any gimmes in the NFL. Going 5-3 the rest of the way should get them to the playoffs.

There are gimmes, just not on our schedule this year...:(

The Operator
11-12-2023, 05:31 PM
This loss reminds me of the one to the Mike White Jets 2 years ago. Stroud is obviously better than White, but similar game where defense just didn't show up. Still had a chance to win but let it slip away.


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Seems like every single time the “Lou will get snatched up for sure this time” talk fires up, the defense has just an absolute dud of a game.

At the same time, 27 points be damned… the offense was truly awful today.

Playadlc
11-12-2023, 05:39 PM
5-3 finish probably makes it in.

@Balt
Pitt
@Jax
Indy
Vikings
@Pitt
@KC
Clev

I think the Bengals will be sitting at 9-5 going into the last 3.

RiverRat13
11-12-2023, 05:41 PM
5-3 finish probably makes it in.

@Balt
Pitt
@Jax
Indy
Vikings
@Pitt
@KC
Clev

I think the Bengals will be sitting at 9-5 going into the last 3.

They are 1-4 in the conference. They will be in trouble if it has to go to tiebreakers.

oregonred
11-12-2023, 05:59 PM
Perfect trap game after the Niners and Bills emotional Sun night game then staring at Balt 4 days later.

All three AFc North games came down to 1 play about 10mins apart last hour... life in the NFL

Sea Ray
11-12-2023, 06:14 PM
They are 1-4 in the conference. They will be in trouble if it has to go to tiebreakers.

They've got plenty of games to deal with tiebreakers with head to head (Indy, Buffalo, Jax)

With the Balt loss today, the Bengals still got a shot at the division too

KoryMac5
11-12-2023, 06:47 PM
The D has been smoke and mirrors...without the turnovers they are a bottom unit in the AFC. 544 yds of offense by the Texans reminds me of Lou's first years here. Game should have been much worse. Still no pass rush outside of Hendrickson.

I am not even going to watch Thursday.

Redsfan6272
11-12-2023, 07:24 PM
Boyd catches that ball its a Bengal WIn,, The defense better step up as they looked awful most of the game, poor tackling and leaving receivers open to make catches...

Kingspoint
11-12-2023, 09:22 PM
These Houston receivers are WIDE open

It's been that way all season no matter who Houston goes up against.

Kingspoint
11-12-2023, 09:31 PM
Seems like every single time the “Lou will get snatched up for sure this time” talk fires up, the defense has just an absolute dud of a game.

At the same time, 27 points be damned… the offense was truly awful today.

They only gave up 48 points their last 3 games going into this one and that was against outstanding Offenses. They were ahead of where they should have been half-way through the season. It should take until December before the Secondary gains the experience where they will have more consistency. Up until now, like the last couple of years and the Zimmer years, they've been a bend-but-don't break style of Defense. They get incredibly stingy inside the Redzone, and even more stingy inside the 10. They are consistently getting interceptions and that's been from Week 1 this season. They're also getting pressure on the opposing Quarterback when it's important, like 3rd Downs and inside the Redzone. The Total Yards are never going to be similar to BAL or PIT, as that just isn't their style of Defense. It's more about points against for them, and they've been really good in that front until today. Stroud and his Receivers and their Offensive Coordinator have been outstanding. Don't see Lou fail to adjust at Halftime and especially late in the game very often.

All the credit goes to the Texans.

Totally expect the Bengals to beat the Ravens on Thursday. It's just too bad that Chase sacrificed himself for this game because of Higgins being out. Now I have to wonder if Chase won't miss Thursday's game. Higgins is needed badly Thursday.

Redsfaithful
11-13-2023, 01:13 AM
CJ Stroud is a stud. As if there weren't already enough elite QBs in the AFC.

It doesn't ease the sting or put the Bengals in a better spot right now but this loss isn't going to look horrible at the end of the year. If you look at the Texans schedule going forward it's not hard at all to envision them in the playoffs.

I think the Bengals are going to need 11 wins to get in and end up somewhere between 9 and 11. They need more depth on the defensive line and should have been active in the trade market this year. Improving in-season might be the last piece of the puzzle, hopefully they'll take that step next year.

Ky Fried Redleg
11-13-2023, 06:15 AM
Boyd catches that ball its a Bengal WIn,, The defense better step up as they looked awful most of the game, poor tackling and leaving receivers open to make catches...

No guarantee that Houston doesn't march down and get the TD if Boyd had caught the pass. In fact, they probably do march it down the Bengals' throats in 90 seconds for the GW TD. Bengals just don't appear good enough. You HAVE to beat the Texans at home.

KoryMac5
11-13-2023, 09:42 AM
Stopping their momentum sucks but if you told me they would win 2 out of 3 vs SF/Buf/Hou I would take it...

The contrast between offenses was striking yesterday...Bengals need to take more shots stop settling for what the D is giving.

A bit disappointed with Tobin not signing another pass rusher Ossai has all but disappeared since last seasons promise and Murphy is raw.

This division is unreal. We could possibly get a 3rd or 4th place schedule going into next season with a winning record. I don't ever remember a division that was this stacked...maybe the NFC east with Wash, Dallas, Giants, Philly

KoryMac5
11-13-2023, 02:28 PM
Hendrickson hyper extended knee expected to most likely miss Thursday..MRI coming

Redhook
11-13-2023, 04:14 PM
Hendrickson hyper extended knee expected to most likely miss Thursday..MRI coming

That’s too bad. It was such a bizarre and unlucky injury that could have a big impact on the Bengals season.

KoryMac5
11-13-2023, 10:07 PM
Looks like Hubbard, Higgins, and Hendrickson are all out for Thursday. Though that could change...

OldFashionedRed
11-14-2023, 12:01 AM
That’s too bad. It was such a bizarre and unlucky injury that could have a big impact on the Bengals season.

There were a lot more problems in the game than his injury. The outcome to.this season won't be because of him.

Bob Sheed
11-14-2023, 04:29 PM
I was a lot more critical of the Bengals' uneven performances week in and week out, until I started watching condensed games of a few other teams each week.

Results in the NFL are seemingly random, anymore. For just about every team.

I mean, that Bills Broncos game last night. Who on Earth predicts any of that?

RiverRat13
11-14-2023, 04:52 PM
Random thought - I'm sure Brian Callahan would like to be an NFL head coach. The best way for that to happen would be for him to convince his dad to come coach the offensive line in Cincinnati until he gets his own head coaching job (and then take him with him).

KoryMac5
11-14-2023, 08:37 PM
Hendrickson dressed for practice...big developement.

KoryMac5
11-14-2023, 09:00 PM
Bengals 0-14 on the road in primetime games courtesy of Jay Morrison. Let that sink in...

Redhook
11-14-2023, 11:16 PM
Bengals 0-14 on the road in primetime games courtesy of Jay Morrison. Let that sink in...

Perfect! They just ended another crazy streak when they beat the Bills on Sunday night. This team is built for these moments.

RiverRat13
11-15-2023, 03:32 PM
WR corp is depleted for tomorrow night. Would have been nice to at least have Iosivas.

MWM
11-15-2023, 03:37 PM
Bengals 0-14 on the road in primetime games courtesy of Jay Morrison. Let that sink in...

They won at Pittsburgh last year on Sunday Night Football. Got his facts wrong.

Sea Ray
11-15-2023, 03:44 PM
WR corp is depleted for tomorrow night. Would have been nice to at least have Iosivas.

I hadn't heard that on Andrei. When did he hurt his knee?

We've been really lucky on injuries up to recently. This is not a good week. Hopefully Charlie Jones is back

Boss-Hog
11-15-2023, 04:23 PM
They won at Pittsburgh last year on Sunday Night Football. Got his facts wrong.That game was originally scheduled for SNF but flexed out to 4:25, so it's unfortunately accurate other than to clarify it's not all time but since 2013. I believe Jay's tweet made that distinction.

KoryMac5
11-15-2023, 04:32 PM
I hadn't heard that on Andrei. When did he hurt his knee?

We've been really lucky on injuries up to recently. This is not a good week. Hopefully Charlie Jones is back

Hurt his knee against Houston....not sure which play.

Hendrickson has no injury designation which is good news.

Kingspoint
11-15-2023, 07:08 PM
WR corp is depleted for tomorrow night. Would have been nice to at least have Iosivas.

Herbert was excellent even though he was without Mike Williams, Donald Parham, and lost both Gerald Everett and Keenan Allen mid-game. That was against a much worse Defense than the Ravens, but Quarterbacks as good as Burrow get it done no matter who they have out there as a Receiver. There's going to be some dropped passes and he's just got to know that and not put the Offense in a position that a dropped pass on 3rd Down stops a drive. Mixon is no Ekeler, either, and again, the Ravens' Defense is much better than what Ekeler faced.

Our Defense is going to have to step up after being completely embarrassed from start to finish their last game. Got to keep this a low-scoring affair where neither team scores 20 points.

Kingspoint
11-15-2023, 07:12 PM
Hendrickson has no injury designation which is good news.

He knows Hubbard is hurt. He knows his squad was completely embarrassed start to finish the last game and gave up a game-winning drive. He's the toughest guy on the team. It's Baltimore who already beat us this season. We are in last place in the Division. We are on the outside looking in for the playoffs. We've already lost tie-breakers to the Texans, Ravens, Browns, and Titans thanks to head-to-head and a terrible Conference record. Hendrickson would have to not be able to walk to not play in this game. There's going to be times against the Ravens that he won't be able to walk, but he'll come back into the game and produce.

Kingspoint
11-15-2023, 07:59 PM
Hendrickson should have an easier time of it with LT Ronnie Stanley ruled out, and RT Morgan Moses likely returning after missing the last two games, the Ravens activated Josh Wells from the practice squad. The Veteran Wells could move right into the LT spot.

Hillsdale87
11-15-2023, 09:18 PM
So Hendrickson played last year with a broken wrist and now is playing with a hyperextended knee. Dude is a warrior.


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