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BuckeyeRed27
01-25-2024, 05:07 PM
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And stuff like this is what's wrong with college football!

Photoshopped images of coaches next to money is what’s wrong with college football?

dubc47834
01-25-2024, 05:15 PM
Photoshopped images of coaches next to money is what’s wrong with college football?

I hope you're right, but it was posted by Maurice Clarette. Which considering the source I guess, could be the issue as well.

BuckeyeRed27
01-25-2024, 05:19 PM
I hope you're right, but it was posted by Maurice Clarette. Which considering the source I guess, could be the issue as well.

https://www.pinterest.com/pin/461900505536478001/

There’s the real picture

dubc47834
01-25-2024, 05:23 PM
https://www.pinterest.com/pin/461900505536478001/

There’s the real picture

Good to know. The internet sucks sometimes!

RedTeamGo!
01-25-2024, 05:30 PM
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And stuff like this is what's wrong with college football!

Decent photoshop, but if you look closely at the bills in the front you can see where it is fake. Those bills would be falling off. But yeah, Clarrett is an idiot who is just looking for clout every day on twitter.

kaldaniels
01-25-2024, 05:41 PM
https://i.pinimg.com/736x/2c/a3/e1/2ca3e132ba5911594f86dd90c44f4810.jpg

kaldaniels
01-25-2024, 06:03 PM
As strange as it may seem today Clarrett was on the right side of history.

But yeah, now he’s a jabroni.

GAC
01-25-2024, 07:00 PM
The pres of the NCAA has absolutely nothing to do with the punishment.

Don't be so sure. ;)

GAC
01-25-2024, 07:07 PM
20816

And stuff like this is what's wrong with college football!

It doesn't matter the pic is Photoshopped. It's what it symbolizes, and it hits it spot on IMO.

Yep. And it's why I may so adios to college football too.

You got a 18 yr old kid, fresh out of high school, making a million dollars, before he has accomplished anything, other then being recognized as a national prospect. And that's on top of his free education, room and board, food, and Booster perks. Ridiculous IMO. But if that is the path this generation wants the sport to go, then so be it.

GAC
01-25-2024, 07:17 PM
Michigan was going to take a big hit regardless of whether Harbaugh left or not. They are graduating a ton of players.

True. But they also lost players to the portal. I think so far a total of eight, which included CB Calhoun and LB Velazquez. But like Saban's retiring caused players to either have a change of heart towards commiting to 'Bama, or players entered the portal ... is the same now going to occur at Michigan? Once a HC announces he's leaving it opens up a new 30 day portal window for those players.

I think the whole thing is a friggin' mess! LOL


I think DeBoer will be gone from Bama in three years. It's a shame because I think he is a great coach but the SEC is very cutthroat and he is in a state that is basically treating him like an outsider.

He definitely has some tough shoes to fill.

WVRed
01-25-2024, 07:25 PM
True. But they also lost players to the portal. I think so far a total of eight, which included CB Calhoun and LB Velazquez. But like Saban's retiring caused players to either have a change of heart towards commiting to 'Bama, or players entered the portal ... is the same now going to occur at Michigan? Once a HC announces he's leaving it opens up a new 30 day portal window for those players.

I think the whole thing is a friggin' mess! LOL



He definitely has some tougfh shoes to fill.Comparing what Michigan lost in the portal to Alabama is apples to asparagus. The players they lost aren't highly regarded.

Not to say it couldn't happen but if someone like Mason Graham enters the portal there would be cause for concern.

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BuckeyeRed27
01-25-2024, 07:46 PM
It doesn't matter the pic is Photoshopped. It's what it symbolizes, and it hits it spot on IMO.

Yep. And it's why I may so adios to college football too.

You got a 18 yr old kid, fresh out of high school, making a million dollars, before he has accomplished anything, other then being recognized as a national prospect. And that's on top of his free education, room and board, food, and Booster perks. Ridiculous IMO. But if that is the path this generation wants the sport to go, then so be it.

Few if any 18 year old freshman are making a million dollars. The handful that are, are doing so because they have accomplished something and you know who they are. Some of the older players are definitely getting paid.

WVRed
01-25-2024, 08:02 PM
Few if any 18 year old freshman are making a million dollars. The handful that are, are doing so because they have accomplished something and you know who they are. Some of the older players are definitely getting paid.Exactly.

I don't know how Ohio State is doing it but I read that Georgia doesn't spend much on high school recruits but spends to "re-recruit" players to keep them from entering the portal.

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RedTeamGo!
01-25-2024, 08:12 PM
It doesn't matter the pic is Photoshopped. It's what it symbolizes, and it hits it spot on IMO.

Yep. And it's why I may so adios to college football too.

You got a 18 yr old kid, fresh out of high school, making a million dollars, before he has accomplished anything, other then being recognized as a national prospect. And that's on top of his free education, room and board, food, and Booster perks. Ridiculous IMO. But if that is the path this generation wants the sport to go, then so be it.

Don’t believe everything you read. A lot of the numbers that get thrown around on what players are making is completely made up.

GAC
01-26-2024, 06:57 AM
Don’t believe everything you read. A lot of the numbers that get thrown around on what players are making is completely made up.

Nearly half a million college student-athletes, from all sports, have utilized the NIL to partner with local agencies. No, not all are making a million dollars; but there are lots who are. This is just a beginning. Ohio State's collective paid out approximately 10M to retain and acquire players. These kids are getting a nice chunk of change. Harrison got over a million.

These (below) aren't made up. And this is not a comprehensive list ...

https://draftwire.usatoday.com/lists/shedeur-sanders-nfl-nil-caleb-williams-arch-manning/

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/these-10-college-athletes-are-making-over-1-million-a-year-from-nil-2199fe5a

If today's fans are alright with this, then it's fine with me. But for me, it's changing the landscape of college football radically, and in a bad way, where it's no longer "attractive" or entertaining to me. College football had a "uniqueness" to it that kept it separated from the pros (NFL). Those differences are gradually being eradicated from the collge ranks. And to the point where I'll leave it, and have no qualms about doing so.

GAC
01-26-2024, 07:18 AM
Comparing what Michigan lost in the portal to Alabama is apples to asparagus. The players they lost aren't highly regarded.

Not to say it couldn't happen but if someone like Mason Graham enters the portal there would be cause for concern.

The only "comparson" I was trying to make though was that two elite programs were devastated, setback, by their HC leaving, and players/talent either going to the NFL or entering the portal.

I certainly agree that 'Bama got hit harder.

BuckeyeRed27
01-26-2024, 10:11 AM
Nearly half a million college student-athletes, from all sports, have utilized the NIL to partner with local agencies. No, not all are making a million dollars; but there are lots who are. This is just a beginning. Ohio State's collective paid out approximately 10M to retain and acquire players. These kids are getting a nice chunk of change. Harrison got over a million.

These (below) aren't made up. And this is not a comprehensive list ...

https://draftwire.usatoday.com/lists/shedeur-sanders-nfl-nil-caleb-williams-arch-manning/

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/these-10-college-athletes-are-making-over-1-million-a-year-from-nil-2199fe5a

If today's fans are alright with this, then it's fine with me. But for me, it's changing the landscape of college football radically, and in a bad way, where it's no longer "attractive" or entertaining to me. College football had a "uniqueness" to it that kept it separated from the pros (NFL). Those differences are gradually being eradicated from the collge ranks. And to the point where I'll leave it, and have no qualms about doing so.

I will honestly never understand this mindset. If you don’t like following NIL and recruiting, then don’t. I promise you on Saturday in the fall it won’t make a single difference to you.

Assembly Hall
01-26-2024, 10:23 AM
The only "comparson" I was trying to make though was that two elite programs were devastated, setback, by their HC leaving, and players/talent either going to the NFL or entering the portal.

I certainly agree that 'Bama got hit harder.

Don't care.

What I do care about is whether my Hoosiers can beat Michigan and Tennessee beating 'Bama.

Boston Red
01-26-2024, 10:37 AM
I will honestly never understand this mindset. If you don’t like following NIL and recruiting, then don’t. I promise you on Saturday in the fall it won’t make a single difference to you.

I get it. If they players are essentially free agents and not really representatives of the university, it makes college football essentially a watered down version of pro football. If the unique aspect of what made college football special is gone, then why bother watching it instead of simply focusing on the NFL, which is the same thing only with significantly better quality of athletes?

I'm not quite there, because that's not all that makes college football special from my perspective. But I can certainly understand it and see a place over the horizon where I would feel the same.

Chip R
01-26-2024, 10:57 AM
Nearly half a million college student-athletes, from all sports, have utilized the NIL to partner with local agencies. No, not all are making a million dollars; but there are lots who are. This is just a beginning. Ohio State's collective paid out approximately 10M to retain and acquire players. These kids are getting a nice chunk of change. Harrison got over a million.

These (below) aren't made up. And this is not a comprehensive list ...

https://draftwire.usatoday.com/lists/shedeur-sanders-nfl-nil-caleb-williams-arch-manning/

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/these-10-college-athletes-are-making-over-1-million-a-year-from-nil-2199fe5a

If today's fans are alright with this, then it's fine with me. But for me, it's changing the landscape of college football radically, and in a bad way, where it's no longer "attractive" or entertaining to me. College football had a "uniqueness" to it that kept it separated from the pros (NFL). Those differences are gradually being eradicated from the collge ranks. And to the point where I'll leave it, and have no qualms about doing so.

Funny, I thought we lived in the United States of America where it's a capitalistic society and you are free to make as much money as you want as long as it's legal (or, in some cases, illegal.) Is this any different than a millionaire's child(ren) receiving money from their parents on their 18th or 21st birthday? A lot of these people never worked a day in their life and they are given companies to run and are admired by the general public. Is it different than these Instagram influencers who make money from how many people watch their videos? We live in a country where if someone criticizes people for making too much money or not paying enough in taxes they are called Socialists and/or Communists. At least these athletes are putting their bodies on the line when they go out on the field. It's possible that some may be crippled or paralyzed. Then they have no earning power. If these people and/or businesses want to give their money to some 18 year old kid who could be the next Peyton Manning, that's their business. And if you don't want to watch, that's your business. It's really nothing new. Alums and boosters have been giving college athletes money since the 19th century. The only difference is that it's above board now.

dubc47834
01-26-2024, 11:47 AM
Nearly half a million college student-athletes, from all sports, have utilized the NIL to partner with local agencies. No, not all are making a million dollars; but there are lots who are. This is just a beginning. Ohio State's collective paid out approximately 10M to retain and acquire players. These kids are getting a nice chunk of change. Harrison got over a million.

These (below) aren't made up. And this is not a comprehensive list ...

https://draftwire.usatoday.com/lists/shedeur-sanders-nfl-nil-caleb-williams-arch-manning/

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/these-10-college-athletes-are-making-over-1-million-a-year-from-nil-2199fe5a

If today's fans are alright with this, then it's fine with me. But for me, it's changing the landscape of college football radically, and in a bad way, where it's no longer "attractive" or entertaining to me. College football had a "uniqueness" to it that kept it separated from the pros (NFL). Those differences are gradually being eradicated from the collge ranks. And to the point where I'll leave it, and have no qualms about doing so.

I don't have a problem with the concept of NIL. The schools are making tons of money off the players, so I do think they should be entitled to more than just a free education, room, and board. I do think there needs to be some changes made to the current set up tho.

BuckeyeRed27
01-26-2024, 12:19 PM
I get it. If they players are essentially free agents and not really representatives of the university, it makes college football essentially a watered down version of pro football. If the unique aspect of what made college football special is gone, then why bother watching it instead of simply focusing on the NFL, which is the same thing only with significantly better quality of athletes?

I'm not quite there, because that's not all that makes college football special from my perspective. But I can certainly understand it and see a place over the horizon where I would feel the same.

College football has always been about change. There’s no Tom Brady to be on your team for 15 years and win you a bunch of titles. The names on the back of the jersey is always changing. Does it change a little more frequently now? Sure. But why do I care if the new linebacker has been sitting on my favorite teams bench for 2 years or starting at another school?

Roy Tucker
01-26-2024, 01:21 PM
I like some continuity. Seeing players develop and play over multiple seasons is part of that. College football has lost a lot of that continuity. Players are free agents almost every year.

Do I have a problem with that? As a worker in today’s economy, no. People should have the right to play wherever they want. As a fan though, I don’t like it. Familiarity with players is part of enjoying watching a team play.

Where this is all going to go, I don’t know. I feel like we’re in a transition time though. Will the unbridled free agency continue or will restrictions rear up? Will college players start signing contracts? I just think we’re not at the end of this phase of a new economic model in college sports.

*BaseClogger*
01-26-2024, 01:51 PM
I used to watch college football because the players were representatives of their university but they aren’t that anymore so I stopped watching.

WVRed
01-26-2024, 02:06 PM
For everyone saying they are done:

Spoiler Alert: No, you're not.

Same thing when athletes knelt for the national anthem.

Don't know how many Kentucky fans I know who swore off the team when Cal and Stoops supported the players kneeling.

And the same thing will happen with Ohio State if they go deep in the playoff next season.

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GAC
01-26-2024, 02:39 PM
I will honestly never understand this mindset. If you don’t like following NIL and recruiting, then don’t. I promise you on Saturday in the fall it won’t make a single difference to you.

What do you mean? It already has made a difference (lol). It has nothing to do with following the NIL and portal; but what these are doing to the game. The NIL and portal has completely changed the dynamics of the game, and I don't like what it's doing to the game. IMO, it's swung the pendulum too far, giving the players too much power. Basically, at season's end, every college player can become a "free agent", open to the highest bidder. It's a free-for-all that doesn't even exist in the NFL. Going into next season, OSU is loaded no doubt. How many of those players out of the portal that have committed to OSU, did so not only because it's Ohio State, but also because they got solid money deals thrown their way va the 1870 collective?

When you inject houndreds of thousands to millions of dollars into the scenario, for the most part, just follow the trail. Programs are now, or will be, trying to buy a championship.

It's not just what is occuring with the NIL/portal that is souring me on college football. The massive realignments. 18 teams in the B10 with no divisions, just the top two play for the conference championship. And of course other B10 teams may make the playoff depending on their ranking. Same setup in the SEC (16 teams).

Will I watch games on Saturday? Sure. As long as I don't have anything else to do (lol). I'm not the committed/avid fan I once was.

GAC
01-26-2024, 02:44 PM
I get it. If they players are essentially free agents and not really representatives of the university, it makes college football essentially a watered down version of pro football. If the unique aspect of what made college football special is gone, then why bother watching it instead of simply focusing on the NFL, which is the same thing only with significantly better quality of athletes?

I'm not quite there, because that's not all that makes college football special from my perspective. But I can certainly understand it and see a place over the horizon where I would feel the same.

Thank you Boston Red. You and BaseClogger communicated more eloquently what I wasn't able to (lol).

All things change. Nor do I expect things to stay the same. I understand. That's fine. But I don't have to like or agree with the changes. And if it "alenates" me enough, I've had no issues with dropping participation.

I have other hobbies.

BuckeyeRed27
01-26-2024, 02:50 PM
What do you mean? It already has made a difference (lol). It has nothing to do with following the NIL and portal; but what these are doing to the game. The NIL and portal has completely changed the dynamics of the game, and I don't like what it's doing to the game. IMO, it's swung the pendulum too far, giving the players too much power. Basically, at season's end, every college player can become a "free agent", open to the highest bidder. It's a free-for-all that doesn't even exist in the NFL. Going into next season, OSU is loaded no doubt. How many of those players out of the portal that have committed to OSU, did so not only because it's Ohio State, but also because they got solid money deals thrown their way va the 1870 collective?

When you inject houndreds of thousands to millions of dollars into the scenario, for the most part, just follow the trail. Programs are now, or will be, trying to buy a championship.

It's not just what is occuring with the NIL/portal that is souring me on college football. The massive realignments. 18 teams in the B10 with no divisions, just the top two play for the conference championship. And of course other B10 teams may make the playoff depending on their ranking. Same setup in the SEC (16 teams).

Will I watch games on Saturday? Sure. As long as I don't have anything else to do (lol). I'm not the committed/avid fan I once was.

Again I don’t see how it has changed the dynamics of the game? Why do I care where the new QB or safety came from? What does that have to do with me enjoying watching the games?

And using OSU is a weird example. They spent most of their money retaining guys who are now playing there for their third or fourth seasons. These guys don’t like playing college football or came back to accomplish things for and at OSU because they are getting some money? Ridiculous.

So before when programs were paying their coaches $15M, building $500M football practice facilities, flying private jets all over the country to land top 5 recruits that wasn’t trying to buy a championship? Just now when the players get in on some of the action is it too much?

Chip R
01-26-2024, 03:52 PM
I used to watch college football because the players were representatives of their university but they aren’t that anymore so I stopped watching.

Anyone who feels this way can always watch college football on the lower levels. There's FCS, Division II and Division III. Heck, the D3 guys don't even have scholarships. FBS does have some turnover with players transferring to FBS or other FCS schools but you can find their games on ESPN+.

GAC
01-27-2024, 07:33 AM
Again I don’t see how it has changed the dynamics of the game? Why do I care where the new QB or safety came from? What does that have to do with me enjoying watching the games?

If you don't think allowing every student-athlete, at season's end (if they so choose) to basically become a "free agent" thru a transfer portal.... while also injecting money into the equation - I don't carry if it's $100,000 or $3M - isn't going to effect the dynamics of the game, then OK! I'm not going to belabor that point with you. It's a friggin' free-for-all at season's end. This type of environment doesn't even exist in the NFL or MLB (lol).


And using OSU is a weird example. They spent most of their money retaining guys who are now playing there for their third or fourth seasons

OSU is a solid example. I don't care how or where they spent the money. It's the fact they had to spend a combined $10M to players to either hold onto them, or acquire them via the portal.



Just now when the players get in on some of the action is it too much?

Sounds like a mobster, getting in on a "piece of the action" lol

Already made my position known on this, and I'm not going to belabor it. They're athletic abilities are already getting them a free-ride education, room and board, food, booster perks, including the school showcasing your skills to the pros.

I'll exit this discussion because it's pretty much exhausted itself.

RedsBaron
01-27-2024, 08:06 AM
I like some continuity. Seeing players develop and play over multiple seasons is part of that. College football has lost a lot of that continuity. Players are free agents almost every year.

Do I have a problem with that? As a worker in today’s economy, no. People should have the right to play wherever they want. As a fan though, I don’t like it. Familiarity with players is part of enjoying watching a team play.

Where this is all going to go, I don’t know. I feel like we’re in a transition time though. Will the unbridled free agency continue or will restrictions rear up? Will college players start signing contracts? I just think we’re not at the end of this phase of a new economic model in college sports.

As Jerry Seinfeld observed, spectator sports can simply be "rooting for laundry." Rooting for a team made up of players whom you do not know is illogical. I do it too.

Assembly Hall
01-27-2024, 10:27 AM
As Jerry Seinfeld observed, spectator sports can simply be "rooting for laundry." Rooting for a team made up of players whom you do not know is illogical. I do it too.

Yadda yadda

BuckeyeRed27
01-27-2024, 10:55 AM
If you don't think allowing every student-athlete, at season's end (if they so choose) to basically become a "free agent" thru a transfer portal.... while also injecting money into the equation - I don't carry if it's $100,000 or $3M - isn't going to effect the dynamics of the game, then OK! I'm not going to belabor that point with you. It's a friggin' free-for-all at season's end. This type of environment doesn't even exist in the NFL or MLB (lol).



OSU is a solid example. I don't care how or where they spent the money. It's the fact they had to spend a combined $10M to players to either hold onto them, or acquire them via the portal.




Sounds like a mobster, getting in on a "piece of the action" lol

Already made my position known on this, and I'm not going to belabor it. They're athletic abilities are already getting them a free-ride education, room and board, food, booster perks, including the school showcasing your skills to the pros.

I'll exit this discussion because it's pretty much exhausted itself.

I’ll just add to the point about OSU “having” to pay guys to keep them, this is a positive for everyone. Before a guy that was a top 3 round pick basically had to go pro. It was too much of a financial risk to them to come back and get hurt potentially. But now, they get paid something to mitigate that risk, they get to develop another year and hopefully increase their draft position and the school gets an experienced NFL caliber player back for another season and fans get to root for a player they know for another season.

And I still don’t get and you or no one else have explained how the thing you liked about college football was they got their tuition paid and that made it better than now. But that’s fine.

pedro
01-27-2024, 11:03 AM
As Jerry Seinfeld observed, spectator sports can simply be "rooting for laundry." Rooting for a team made up of players whom you do not know is illogical. I do it too.

Not that there is anything wrong with that.


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Chip R
01-30-2024, 01:11 PM
If you don't think allowing every student-athlete, at season's end (if they so choose) to basically become a "free agent" thru a transfer portal.... while also injecting money into the equation - I don't carry if it's $100,000 or $3M - isn't going to effect the dynamics of the game, then OK! I'm not going to belabor that point with you. It's a friggin' free-for-all at season's end. This type of environment doesn't even exist in the NFL or MLB (lol).


I'd like to see a format where the players get paid and are free to transfer and are affiliated with the colleges but aren't necessarily students. If you have someone who is transferring multiple times, just to play football, they really aren't serious students. But I don't see any way to do that without calling it a glorified minor league. I don't think football fans are really interested in another football minor league even if they are affiliated with their alma maters. There aren't any easy answers. What I could see in the near future is the SEC and Big Whatever and maybe the other Big Whatever and maybe the ACC just seceding from the NCAA and forming their own organization. That organization would not have the kind of rules the NCAA currently does. They certainly would have enough teams to just play each other all the time. The TV networks would definitely go with them because that's who everyone is paying to see.

RedTeamGo!
01-30-2024, 02:04 PM
Sounds like Tennessee is in trouble

Slyder
01-30-2024, 02:07 PM
Sounds like Tennessee is in trouble

The NCAA is SOOOOO MAD right now they're putting Mississippi Valley St Technical on 2 years of probation!

WVRed
01-30-2024, 02:34 PM
Sounds like Tennessee is in troubleAnd Florida.

Looks like they ratted each other out.

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Sea Ray
01-30-2024, 03:49 PM
Sounds like Tennessee is in trouble

Details are scarce so we'll see but it's NIL. How do you get in trouble with NIL? Hopefully we'll get hit like Michigan did

BuckeyeRed27
01-30-2024, 03:57 PM
Details are scarce so we'll see but it's NIL. How do you get in trouble with NIL? Hopefully we'll get hit like Michigan did

Michigan hasn’t been hit yet.

You’ll probably get hit like Florida St did. Some recruiting restrictions, fines and maybe have to fire some coaches and disassociate from boosters.

The issues they have been investigating are usually about contact and payments before players are in the portal or during recruiting black out periods and FSU got in trouble for illegal booster contact.

RedTeamGo!
01-30-2024, 04:15 PM
Idk, Thamel just tweeted he thinks Tenn is fighting a LOIC charge

BuckeyeRed27
01-30-2024, 04:20 PM
Idk, Thamel just tweeted he thinks Tenn is fighting a LOIC charge

Oh.

Sea Ray
01-30-2024, 04:46 PM
In short, Tennessee's message to the NCAA: We were very wrong with the Pruitt stuff and we admitted to all of it, and you told everyone we were the standard of cooperation and transparency. We are not wrong here, and you can kiss our Big Orange Ass.

https://twitter.com/wesrucker247/status/1752429655846474020?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5 Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1752429655846474020%7Ctwgr% 5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=

Tennessee's letter to the NCAA:

https://www.on3.com/teams/tennessee-volunteers/news/tennessee-chancellor-donde-plowman-responds-ncaa/

RedTeamGo!
01-31-2024, 01:25 PM
https://apnews.com/article/tennessee-lawsuit-ncaa-recruiting-violations-nil-df83bc5b39c46476ea1682a96c5d5a2f


Tennessee, Virginia AGs suing NCAA over NIL-related recruiting rules with Vols under investigation


The attorneys general of Tennessee and Virginia filed a lawsuit against the NCAA on Wednesday, a day after the University of Tennessee’s chancellor ripped the association for investigating the school for potential recruiting violations related to name, image and likeness compensation rules.

The lawsuit filed in the Eastern District of Tennessee claims the NCAA is “enforcing rules that unfairly restrict how athletes can commercially use their name, image and likeness at a critical juncture in the recruiting calendar.”

“These anticompetitive restrictions violate the Sherman Act, harm the States and the welfare of their athletes, and should be declared unlawful and enjoined.”

If VA/TN DGs win this you can probably consider this the end of NCAA football.

cumberlandreds
01-31-2024, 01:54 PM
https://apnews.com/article/tennessee-lawsuit-ncaa-recruiting-violations-nil-df83bc5b39c46476ea1682a96c5d5a2f





If VA/TN DGs win this you can probably consider this the end of NCAA football.



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WVRed
01-31-2024, 04:09 PM
https://apnews.com/article/tennessee-lawsuit-ncaa-recruiting-violations-nil-df83bc5b39c46476ea1682a96c5d5a2f





If VA/TN DGs win this you can probably consider this the end of NCAA football.Or the NCAA as a whole.

That said, if they lose, the NCAA could go Pony Express on Tennessee considering they are repeat offenders and don't have Jeremy Pruitt to fall back on.

Could you imagine the state of Texas suing the NCAA on SMUs behalf 40 years ago? Crazy times we live in.

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Chip R
01-31-2024, 06:06 PM
At this point, I don't see why any program that's under investigation just doesn't tell the NCAA to pound sand and

WVRed
01-31-2024, 06:10 PM
At this point, I don't see why any program that's under investigation just doesn't tell the NCAA to pound sand andTell that to Michigan.

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GAC
01-31-2024, 06:24 PM
I'm siding with Tennessee and Virginia on this one. If you're saying a student-athlete can profit from "name, image, likeness", but don't lay out where the boundaries are, then what do you expect?

What "violations" is the NCAA saying the Vols are guilty of, other then this generalized "recruiting violations"?

It's sad; but the NCAA is becoming a joke.

kaldaniels
01-31-2024, 07:08 PM
Money talks so I don’t think the lucrative sport of college “minor league” football is just going to disappear.

But in the year 2024 tying said football league to state-run (and private of course) institutions of higher learning is simply ridiculous.

Something’s gonna give but I don’t know what it is.

RedTeamGo!
01-31-2024, 07:33 PM
Wow Hafley just left HC job at Boston College to be the DC for the Packers. Flat out said it was because of NIL. He’s sick of fundraising and re-recruiting his own players. He said there’s no time to coach football, and that’s what he wants to do. Just coach football.

With all the stuff going on kinda think college football is circling the drain. I know ratings are through the roof and stuff. But man.

BuckeyeRed27
01-31-2024, 07:54 PM
Wow Hafley just left HC job at Boston College to be the DC for the Packers. Flat out said it was because of NIL. He’s sick of fundraising and re-recruiting his own players. He said there’s no time to coach football, and that’s what he wants to do. Just coach football.

With all the stuff going on kinda think college football is circling the drain. I know ratings are through the roof and stuff. But man.

I’m sure there is something to the NIL frustrations, but Hafley was on a awfully warm seat too.

bucksfan2
02-01-2024, 10:29 AM
I’m sure there is something to the NIL frustrations, but Hafley was on a awfully warm seat too.

Saw a good post that Hafley was in a position where he was good enough to not get fired but not good enough to get a better job anytime soon.

People are going to make a big deal of Hafley moving from BC to a DC in the NFL, but I don't think its all that big of a deal.

I am sure a lot of coaches don't like NIL, and the NCAA needs to make a hard and sure rule with NIL.

WVRed
02-01-2024, 11:46 AM
Saw a good post that Hafley was in a position where he was good enough to not get fired but not good enough to get a better job anytime soon.

People are going to make a big deal of Hafley moving from BC to a DC in the NFL, but I don't think its all that big of a deal.

I am sure a lot of coaches don't like NIL, and the NCAA needs to make a hard and sure rule with NIL.There were two coaches at the FCS level who left their jobs to become defensive coordinators at Alabama under DeBoer. It's not the same but it kinda is because those schools best players are definitely getting poached.

I'd say Hafley just got out before he got fired next year. Curious to see who replaces him. Liam Coen has been mentioned which being from that area makes sense. I'd selfishly like to see Todd Monken just to see the Ravens coaching staff keep getting decimated.

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bucksfan2
02-01-2024, 12:26 PM
There were two coaches at the FCS level who left their jobs to become defensive coordinators at Alabama under DeBoer. It's not the same but it kinda is because those schools best players are definitely getting poached.

I'd say Hafley just got out before he got fired next year. Curious to see who replaces him. Liam Coen has been mentioned which being from that area makes sense. I'd selfishly like to see Todd Monken just to see the Ravens coaching staff keep getting decimated.

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Deion took Sean Lewis form Kent State to be the Colorado OC when he was a hot name in the coaching ranks. OSU entertained the idea of Toledo's HC to be their OC. If you are a big time program, the Coordinators can make upwards of 2M per year, and are a pretty good spot to get a better job. I look at a coach like Joe Moorhead who was a pretty good OC at PSU and Oregon. He went from PSU to Mississippi St, which was a good move, but went from Oregon to Akron. According to google, he makes 620,000 as the HC of Akron. I think Bill O'Brein will be making 3-4 times that, and I think both are pretty comparable offensive minds.

Where does BC rank in the pecking order of Power 5 jobs? I would have to imagine pretty low, probably the bottom 10% or so. Its not a great recruiting ground, they aren't a historical power, they don't have a ton of fan support, and if you are constantly battling in the recruiting front (both in acceptance and retention) its a tough job.

WVRed
02-01-2024, 12:49 PM
Deion took Sean Lewis form Kent State to be the Colorado OC when he was a hot name in the coaching ranks. OSU entertained the idea of Toledo's HC to be their OC. If you are a big time program, the Coordinators can make upwards of 2M per year, and are a pretty good spot to get a better job. I look at a coach like Joe Moorhead who was a pretty good OC at PSU and Oregon. He went from PSU to Mississippi St, which was a good move, but went from Oregon to Akron. According to google, he makes 620,000 as the HC of Akron. I think Bill O'Brein will be making 3-4 times that, and I think both are pretty comparable offensive minds.

Where does BC rank in the pecking order of Power 5 jobs? I would have to imagine pretty low, probably the bottom 10% or so. Its not a great recruiting ground, they aren't a historical power, they don't have a ton of fan support, and if you are constantly battling in the recruiting front (both in acceptance and retention) its a tough job.

I thought about Candle when I was typing my post but the idea with him was using OSU to springboard into a P5 head coaching job. Kane Wommack and Maurice Linguist could be doing that too but it could be getting out of the NIL mess.

BC is likely a stepping stone job. Always has been.


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Roy Tucker
02-01-2024, 02:48 PM
Money talks so I don’t think the lucrative sport of college “minor league” football is just going to disappear.

But in the year 2024 tying said football league to state-run (and private of course) institutions of higher learning is simply ridiculous.

Something’s gonna give but I don’t know what it is.

I was going to write something like this but Kal beat me to it.

I realize the student part of student-athlete concept has been seriously eroded. But if you take the student part away, what tie to a university does an athlete have? Do NFL teams start having minor league teams at universities? Or maybe elsewhere at some separate entity?

But like someone said, there is too much money being made here by universities? They must realize they may be cutting their own throats.

Slyder
02-01-2024, 02:59 PM
I was going to write something like this but Kal beat me to it.

I realize the student part of student-athlete concept has been seriously eroded. But if you take the student part away, what tie to a university does an athlete have? Do NFL teams start having minor league teams at universities? Or maybe elsewhere at some separate entity?

But like someone said, there is too much money being made here by universities? They must realize they may be cutting their own throats.

The schools don't care, they think the money is endless. Look at the joker(s) that killed the PAC because they thought the PAC was worth 50 million a year! They just want to cash the checks. At least now you can put away the façade that this is for the "good of the student" as the Swim team has to catch a flight at Reagan International Airport at 4:30 am on a Friday so they can compete at a B1G swim competition at USC on Saturday at 10 am and then fly back Sunday on a charter/red eye because some of the swimmers didn't race until 8 pm that night. Get back Sunday afternoon and get ready for class on Monday. It's absurd.

Assembly Hall
02-01-2024, 03:02 PM
Alabama, Georgia, and Indiana?

https://twitter.com/SWiltfong247/status/1751744054893633747?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5 Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1751775736636026896%7Ctwgr% 5E98344b430a2f795543d6667e13d88358b81d6919%7Ctwcon %5Es3_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.hoosiersportsnation.com% 2Findex.php%3Fapp%3Dcoremodule%3Dsystemcontroller% 3Dembedurl%3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Fx.com%2Fdaily_hoosier%2 Fstatus%2F1751775736636026896%3Fs%3D46

Boston Red
02-01-2024, 03:10 PM
The schools don't care, they think the money is endless. Look at the joker(s) that killed the PAC because they thought the PAC was worth 50 million a year! They just want to cash the checks. At least now you can put away the façade that this is for the "good of the student" as the Swim team has to catch a flight at Reagan International Airport at 4:30 am on a Friday so they can compete at a B1G swim competition at USC on Saturday at 10 am and then fly back Sunday on a charter/red eye because some of the swimmers didn't race until 8 pm that night. Get back Sunday afternoon and get ready for class on Monday. It's absurd.

That example is pretty absurd, but it's not exactly new or exclusive to big money conferences. The bus rides Wichita State baseball was taking once or twice a year for 40 years in the Missouri Valley to Evansville and Terre Haute were far worse than what those Maryland swimmers you're talking about will have to face.

WVRed
02-01-2024, 04:59 PM
I'm just gonna leave this here (Sorry Sea Ray):https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240201/c4c900617f3b731a5c39ab50a8448470.jpg

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Sea Ray
02-01-2024, 10:35 PM
Tennessee fans are not upset. They're thrilled at the support they're getting and that they're taking the fight to the NCAA. If the NCAA sanctioned them, then they might be upset

dubc47834
02-02-2024, 08:53 AM
I was going to write something like this but Kal beat me to it.

I realize the student part of student-athlete concept has been seriously eroded. But if you take the student part away, what tie to a university does an athlete have? Do NFL teams start having minor league teams at universities? Or maybe elsewhere at some separate entity?

But like someone said, there is too much money being made here by universities? They must realize they may be cutting their own throats.

Why not just let these guys have the 1 & Done rule also?

Boston Red
02-02-2024, 09:15 AM
Why not just let these guys have the 1 & Done rule also?

The NFL doesn't want them that young.

Slyder
02-02-2024, 09:54 AM
That example is pretty absurd, but it's not exactly new or exclusive to big money conferences. The bus rides Wichita State baseball was taking once or twice a year for 40 years in the Missouri Valley to Evansville and Terre Haute were far worse than what those Maryland swimmers you're talking about will have to face.

I was being absurd to try and give the ridiculousness of all this crap. You and every other sport were Student Athletes, you were a student who used the sport to get help paying for college. B1G adding USC and UCLA just ended all the glad handing bs and said "We care about Money, everything else comes 2nd". I'm glad they quit acting like it isn't and has made me hope the one conference who ushered in this bs era falls apart for the same reason.

RedTeamGo!
02-02-2024, 10:10 AM
The NFL doesn't want them that young.

Bill Clinton shakes his head in disapproval

RedTeamGo!
02-02-2024, 10:15 AM
I was being absurd to try and give the ridiculousness of all this crap. You and every other sport were Student Athletes, you were a student who used the sport to get help paying for college. B1G adding USC and UCLA just ended all the glad handing bs and said "We care about Money, everything else comes 2nd". I'm glad they quit acting like it isn't and has made me hope the one conference who ushered in this bs era falls apart for the same reason.

How is the big ten the conference that ushered this in? SEC added Texas and Oklahoma first. This was in response to that.

Slyder
02-02-2024, 10:28 AM
How is the big ten the conference that ushered this in? SEC added Texas and Oklahoma first. This was in response to that.

ACC started this era with the Cryami, BC, and Syracuse early 2000s.


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Boston Red
02-02-2024, 10:51 AM
ACC started this era with the Cryami, BC, and Syracuse early 2000s.


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Wasn't that after Arkansas and Mizzou joined the SEC? This has been going on in some form or fashion forever. It's just crazier geographically now.

Chip R
02-02-2024, 10:53 AM
The NFL doesn't want them that young.

Yeah. A 19-20 year old young man in the NFL may not be physically - as well as emotionally - mature enough to survive the NFL. You look at a lot of NFL rookies - especially the linemen - that have transformed their bodies from the time they were freshmen to when they were seniors. There may be some freshmen at the skill positions that would be physically mature enough to do well in the NFL. I think Herschel Walker could have done it and maybe some kickers and receivers but I don't think there's a lot of need for the former as sophomores.

Slyder
02-02-2024, 11:05 AM
Wasn't that after Arkansas and Mizzou joined the SEC? This has been going on in some form or fashion forever. It's just crazier geographically now.

Mizzou didn't join the SEC until 2012. It could be said that Arkansas was escaping the SWC before the end came, I doubt if Arkansas would have made the "Big 12 cut". They left in 1991 after being only one of 3 schools that didn't get hit with NCAA violations during the 80s (along with Rice and Baylor) including the infamous Death Penalty for SMU. SEC didn't immediately leave CFA.

Boss-Hog
02-02-2024, 11:15 AM
ACC started this era with the Cryami, BC, and Syracuse early 2000s.


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkI think you're thinking of Virginia Tech instead of Syracuse. Syracuse didn't join the ACC until 2013 (along with Pitt), which led to the eventual demise of the Big East.

Slyder
02-02-2024, 11:21 AM
I think you're thinking of Virginia Tech instead of Syracuse. Syracuse didn't join the ACC until around 2013 (along with Pitt), which led to the eventual demise of the Big East.

They originally wanted Syracuse, Cryami, and BC. It was only after the Virginia legislature spoke up that Virginia Tech was added in place of Syracuse.


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Boston Red
02-02-2024, 11:22 AM
The demise of the football Big East. The Big East is a wonderful basketball league still.

Yeah, I knew Mizzou didn't sound right, but I was thinking someone came with Arkansas. Probably South Carolina from the Metro.

Slyder
02-02-2024, 11:23 AM
The demise of the football Big East. The Big East is a wonderful basketball league still.

Yeah, I knew Mizzou didn't sound right, but I was thinking someone came with Arkansas. Probably South Carolina from the Metro.

Yep. I still miss playing a bunch of them (G'Town, Nova, and the tourney in the Garden). But the balancing act was never going to be a successful plan in the era of content, content, content.

The only thing that might have "saved" it is if they accepted Penn State in 1982 and we got the "Eastern 8" with a cornerstone of WVU, Pitt, PSU, Syracuse, BC.

Boss-Hog
02-02-2024, 11:45 AM
The demise of the football Big East. The Big East is a wonderful basketball league still.

Yeah, I knew Mizzou didn't sound right, but I was thinking someone came with Arkansas. Probably South Carolina from the Metro.Technically, yes, but the Big East as a conference was effectively dead. It was only resurrected for non-football sports when the AAC members foolishly sold the naming rights for pennies on the dollar to the non-football schools, as I'm sure you know. Had that not happened, the conference was dead. Thus, I consider the current iteration Big East 2.0 rather than some continuation of the original conference.

Boston Red
02-02-2024, 11:48 AM
Technically, yes, but the Big East as a conference was effectively dead. It was only resurrected for non-football sports when the AAC members foolishly sold the naming rights for pennies on the dollar to the non-football schools, as I'm sure you know. Had that not happened, the conference was dead. Thus, I consider the current iteration Big East 2.0 rather than some continuation of the original conference.

Totally understand, but for branding purposes us Big East fan types are not really allowed to acknowledge that! :)

Roy Tucker
02-02-2024, 11:53 AM
Why not just let these guys have the 1 & Done rule also?

Do we care about academics for these athletes? Or are they just employees of the university just like professors and janitors?

cumberlandreds
02-02-2024, 12:00 PM
Do we care about academics for these athletes? Or are they just employees of the university just like professors and janitors?

IMO, they are now. NIL totally changed the game in more ways than one.

dubc47834
02-02-2024, 01:50 PM
Do we care about academics for these athletes? Or are they just employees of the university just like professors and janitors?

I made that comment in jest. I understand a lot of 18–20-year-olds don't have the body to play in the NFL. But to your point, they already kind of are just employees. With NIL and the transfer portal, this is what it has become. I am OK with the idea of college athletes being able to make money off of NIL, but I also think that the initial NIL rules need some adjustment so that it's not basically a free-for-all.

kaldaniels
02-02-2024, 02:39 PM
When you follow the logic of “players derserve to get paid, and paid their fair worth” the next step is “why should the football program be subsidizing the synchronized swimming team, and lowering the players earnings…while the coaches make millions and millions.” That’s where it falls apart.

kaldaniels
02-02-2024, 02:55 PM
https://x.com/petethamel/status/1753470349637812343?s=46&t=FCamOnVNgxwYJ5KNUDGyPw


Sources: The SEC and Big Ten are set to announce that they are setting up an advisory committee. It’s expected to look at the entire college sports landscape and solutions within it.

Storm’s coming…

Boston Red
02-02-2024, 05:01 PM
When you follow the logic of “players derserve to get paid, and paid their fair worth” the next step is “why should the football program be subsidizing the synchronized swimming team, and lowering the players earnings…while the coaches make millions and millions.” That’s where it falls apart.

I need this whole thing to stick together for three more years to get my non-revenue athlete through. So all of these crazy ideas about college sports sound wonderful....starting in the 2027-28 academic year!

Roy Tucker
02-03-2024, 08:14 PM
This article plays it out pretty well…

https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/sec-big-ten-advisory-group-stands-as-coded-threat-to-ncaa-figure-it-out-or-well-go-off-ourselves/amp/

Chip R
02-06-2024, 05:29 PM
This article plays it out pretty well…

https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/sec-big-ten-advisory-group-stands-as-coded-threat-to-ncaa-figure-it-out-or-well-go-off-ourselves/amp/

I don't see a link to the article on that page, just the headline. I found another place that had the story.

https://sports.yahoo.com/sec-big-ten-uniting-to-tackle-pervasive-issues-in-college-athletics--pressures-are-mounting-172832810.html

Sea Ray
02-26-2024, 11:27 AM
Sounds like Tennessee is in trouble


“For the reasons provided herein, Plaintiffs’ Motion for Preliminary Injunction is granted,” the decision said. “It is hereby ordered that, effective immediately, Defendant NCAA; its servants, agents, and employees; and all persons in active conce11 or participation with the NCAA, are restrained and enjoined from enforcing the NCAA Interim NIL Policy, the NCAA Bylaws, or any other authority to the extent such authority prohibits student-athletes from negotiating compensation for NIL with any third-party entity, including but not limited to boosters or a collective of boosters, until a full and final decision on the merits in the instant action.

“It is further ordered that, effective immediately, the NCAA is restrained and enjoined from enforcing the Rule of Restitution as applied to the foregoing NIL activities until a full and final decision on the merits in the instant action.”

Tennessee wins round one. Don't mess with Rocky Top

https://www.aol.com/judge-grants-injunction-tennessee-vs-205358152.html

Sea Ray
04-24-2024, 09:51 AM
Reggie Bush is being forgiven


Reggie Bush is getting his 2005 Heisman Trophy back, as ESPN has learned that the Heisman Trust will announce Wednesday the formal "reinstatement" of the trophy to Bush amid what it calls "enormous changes in the college football landscape."

The Heisman Trust's decision comes after Bush forfeited his Heisman Trophy in 2010 in the wake of significant NCAA sanctions for USC, which included Bush receiving improper benefits during a Trojans career that spanned from 2003 to 2005.

As part of the decision Wednesday, the Heisman Trust is returning the Heisman Trophy to Bush and a replica to USC. Bush will again be invited to all future Heisman Trophy ceremonies, beginning in the 2024 season.

https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/40014492/reggie-bush-heisman-trophy-returned

Chip R
04-24-2024, 09:57 AM
Reggie Bush is being forgiven



https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/40014492/reggie-bush-heisman-trophy-returned

I wouldn't have given it back in the first place. Good for him.

WVRed
04-28-2024, 10:14 PM
This Peny Boone recruitment is weird:

https://www.on3.com/teams/kentucky-wildcats/news/peny-boone-will-not-transfer-to-kentucky/

Started at Maryland, transferred to Toledo, went to Louisville and didn't even make it through spring practice before entering the portal again.

Kentucky was looking to add him and since he can't transfer enough credit hours it has fallen through.

Why does this matter? The NCAA in this scenario is using academics to keep players from bouncing from school to school. Just curious to see how many more "academic issues" pop up moving forward.

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Chip R
04-29-2024, 03:29 PM
This Peny Boone recruitment is weird:

https://www.on3.com/teams/kentucky-wildcats/news/peny-boone-will-not-transfer-to-kentucky/

Started at Maryland, transferred to Toledo, went to Louisville and didn't even make it through spring practice before entering the portal again.

Kentucky was looking to add him and since he can't transfer enough credit hours it has fallen through.

Why does this matter? The NCAA in this scenario is using academics to keep players from bouncing from school to school. Just curious to see how many more "academic issues" pop up moving forward.

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It does seem incongruent but I will say that a player going to his 4th school isn't really that interested in getting a degree. Of course a lot of players aren't interested in that even if they are staying put.

I don't know. It just seems like college sports is trying to have it both ways. They want the rah rah atmosphere of colleges but they also are professional organizations.

KronoRed
05-01-2024, 11:56 PM
Maybe the real reason A&M wants out of the SEC

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Boston Red
05-02-2024, 09:23 AM
They should be kicked out. That's a shameful performance by A&M.

texasdave
05-02-2024, 09:33 AM
Maybe the real reason A&M wants out of the SEC

21184

It's no more than a mile. Been there. Done that.

Assembly Hall
05-03-2024, 05:28 PM
They should be kicked out. That's a shameful performance by A&M.

Meh. They make up for it by having a strip club close by.

GAC
05-23-2024, 05:09 AM
I post this only because there are those on here who are far wiser then me who can interpret what this means to this ol' man LOL

Just one more step towards paying to watch any college football games?

https://www.10tv.com/article/news/nation-world/college-football-playoff-games-tnt/507-01da03c8-bc62-41db-a86e-03f2bdfe5b3f


TNT Sports will begin airing College Football Playoff games this upcoming season through a sublicense with ESPN.

The five-year agreement announced Wednesday gives TNT two first-round games the first two years. Beginning in 2026, it expands to two first-round and two quarterfinals.

ESPN's $7.8 billion deal with the College Football Playoff, which was announced in March, allowed it to sublicense games to other networks.

cumberlandreds
05-23-2024, 06:21 AM
I post this only because there are those on here who are far wiser then me who can interpret what this means to this ol' man LOL

Just one more step towards paying to watch any college football games?

https://www.10tv.com/article/news/nation-world/college-football-playoff-games-tnt/507-01da03c8-bc62-41db-a86e-03f2bdfe5b3f

I think it basically means TNT is partnering with ESPN to show some of the playoff games in December. Maybe some regular season games too?

WVRed
05-23-2024, 09:17 AM
I think it basically means TNT is partnering with ESPN to show some of the playoff games in December. Maybe some regular season games too?It kinda makes sense. There are going to be more football games and unless people go to streaming doing what ESPN is doing makes sense.

College basketball and the NFL will be in full throttle so I'd say ESPN has a full plate.

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bucksfan2
05-23-2024, 10:01 AM
It kinda makes sense. There are going to be more football games and unless people go to streaming doing what ESPN is doing makes sense.

College basketball and the NFL will be in full throttle so I'd say ESPN has a full plate.

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I think this is awful for the sport. The further you get away from Fox, ABC, NBC, CBS, and ESPN, the less of a chance the average fan watches the game. I don't know how many games they are going to carry, and they aren't going to carry the big boys, but I don't think this is good.

I am somewhat surprised ESPN can't do it with ABC, ESPN and ESPN2. They do it all college football season long.

KronoRed
05-24-2024, 12:12 AM
Not really a shock, the basketball title game was on TBS this year.

WVRed
05-24-2024, 08:56 AM
I think this is awful for the sport. The further you get away from Fox, ABC, NBC, CBS, and ESPN, the less of a chance the average fan watches the game. I don't know how many games they are going to carry, and they aren't going to carry the big boys, but I don't think this is good.

I am somewhat surprised ESPN can't do it with ABC, ESPN and ESPN2. They do it all college football season long.

You have college basketball games thrown in the mix as well as a few NFL games as well, although that is only on Monday Night.

I mean, if Duke, UNC, Kansas or Kentucky are playing basketball and the 5/12 playoff game is up, wouldn't it make sense to sublicense it out in that sense?

Then again with how expensive cable and streaming are getting I completely understand. Just did away with YouTube TV and went to Sling myself.

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bucksfan2
05-24-2024, 10:18 AM
You have college basketball games thrown in the mix as well as a few NFL games as well, although that is only on Monday Night.

I mean, if Duke, UNC, Kansas or Kentucky are playing basketball and the 5/12 playoff game is up, wouldn't it make sense to sublicense it out in that sense?

Then again with how expensive cable and streaming are getting I completely understand. Just did away with YouTube TV and went to Sling myself.

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A playoff game would dwarf anything college basketball has to offer in December.

I get that the NCAA uses Turner, I do think its a mistake to put the final four and championship game not on CBS. But they also start it after half the country is asleep, but I digress. But when you have 4 games going on during the opening round, you need someone else to broadcast all the games. Its funny because during the Thursday of the opening round everyone is out there trying to find out what channel True TV is!

But I think the further you get away from the big networks, or even the big streamers, the more challenging it is for people to actually watch the game.

Sea Ray
06-05-2024, 10:01 PM
This is gonna be fun...

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Sea Ray
07-21-2024, 11:10 PM
Nice...

Debate over: SEC endorses Tennessee as the real 'UT' of the conference over Texas

https://www.knoxnews.com/story/sports/college/university-of-tennessee/football/2024/07/19/sec-endorses-tennessee-real-ut-texas-sec-football-preseason-poll-release/74474507007/

RedTeamGo!
07-21-2024, 11:30 PM
Everyone knows the real UT is Toledo

Boston Red
07-22-2024, 09:56 AM
Thom Brennaman will call college football on the CW this season.

Kingspoint
07-23-2024, 08:32 PM
So, what do Ohio State fans think of Chip Kelly being given the reigns to run the Ohio State Offense?

RedTeamGo!
07-23-2024, 09:25 PM
So, what do Ohio State fans think of Chip Kelly being given the reigns to run the Ohio State Offense?

Ecstatic

OSU’s run game has been predictable and mediocre for years. I think he’s going improve it greatly.

Kingspoint
07-23-2024, 09:50 PM
Ecstatic

OSU’s run game has been predictable and mediocre for years. I think he’s going improve it greatly.

Their Head Coach looked pretty excited about it.

bucksfan2
07-24-2024, 09:13 AM
Their Head Coach looked pretty excited about it.

Kelly was Ryan Day's mentor, both from the same town in New Hampshire, if you want to dig a little further, Chip was a defacto father figure for Day during his younger years. He is a guy who Day trusts completely with his offense, which is a good thing.

I do wonder how everything is going to mesh, Chip loves a power run game (used to be very high tempo) while Day isn't as high tempo but loves to chuck the ball around.

Overall it should be a good mesh of the two, giving Day more time to be the head coach of the team, not just the OC.

Kingspoint
07-24-2024, 12:02 PM
Kelly was Ryan Day's mentor, both from the same town in New Hampshire, if you want to dig a little further, Chip was a defacto father figure for Day during his younger years. He is a guy who Day trusts completely with his offense, which is a good thing.

I do wonder how everything is going to mesh, Chip loves a power run game (used to be very high tempo) while Day isn't as high tempo but loves to chuck the ball around.

Overall it should be a good mesh of the two, giving Day more time to be the head coach of the team, not just the OC.

There's so much responsibility as a Head Coach, especially with the size of the Ohio State program. I just don't see how it's possible that anyone could do both the Head Coaching job and the Offensive Coordinator job, and do them both well at the same time, again, with the size and responsibilities of the Ohio State program. University of Oregon was small potatoes compared to UCLA, and UCLA is small potatoes compared to Ohio State.

bucksfan2
07-24-2024, 12:31 PM
There's so much responsibility as a Head Coach, especially with the size of the Ohio State program. I just don't see how it's possible that anyone could do both the Head Coaching job and the Offensive Coordinator job, and do them both well at the same time, again, with the size and responsibilities of the Ohio State program. University of Oregon was small potatoes compared to UCLA, and UCLA is small potatoes compared to Ohio State.

There is a lot of that there. You also have the whole recruiting and NIL angle that is becoming a full time position. I even hear of college football teams signing defacto GM's.

The thing with Day is that he is an elite offensive mind and play caller. And I get why he didn't want to give that up. He also made some pretty questionable assistant coach hires, which led to a staff that didn't have a true offensive play caller (or someone capable) once Keven Warren left.

I think a renewed focus on overall game management may give him the boost he needs. When Day is aggressive, OSU plays better as a whole. When he goes conservative, they don't play as well.

Kingspoint
07-24-2024, 01:23 PM
When Day is aggressive, OSU plays better as a whole. When he goes conservative, they don't play as well.Reminds me of Marvin Lewis.

Kingspoint
07-24-2024, 01:27 PM
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Hillsdale87
07-25-2024, 04:31 PM
Ecstatic

OSU’s run game has been predictable and mediocre for years. I think he’s going improve it greatly.

Yeah, Day is an elite passing game coordinator and developer. Kelly is an elite run game coordinator and designer. They should be able to mesh exceptionally well. Can't wait for the season


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Sea Ray
08-04-2024, 11:13 PM
Michigan's head coach is in trouble before he's even coached a game

Michigan football coach Sherrone Moore violated NCAA rules, NOA draft says

https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/40724577/michigan-football-coach-sherrone-moore-violated-ncaa-rules-noa-draft-says

Sea Ray
08-04-2024, 11:53 PM
Tennessee has already snagged the #1 recruit from the 2026 class


Five-star QB Faizon Brandon, the No. 1 player in the 2026 class for @247Sports, commits to Tennessee, chooses #Vols over Alabama, LSU and NC State.

https://x.com/GoVols247/status/1819814217182056564?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5 Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1819814217182056564%7Ctwgr% 5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=

My Vols are piling up the great recruits, particularly QBs. Players clearly want to play in Heupel's system. Other great recruits will see this and it will heavily favor Tennessee in making their own decisions on where to commit. The domino effect from this should be tremendous. It is also a boon to Tennessee recruiting that Brandon made his choice so early.

Kingspoint
08-06-2024, 12:10 AM
Kentucky's football program is placed on 2 years probation. Have to forfeit certain effected games from the past.

Wonder if Mitch Barnhardt's job is safe.

WVRed
08-07-2024, 01:13 PM
Kentucky's football program is placed on 2 years probation. Have to forfeit certain effected games from the past.

Wonder if Mitch Barnhardt's job is safe.If Pope doesn't pan out, maybe.

I think this is Stoops last year in Lexington. Basing this off absolutely nothing, just a hunch. He almost left for Texas A&M last year and would have taken it if not for fans revolting. He's complained about NIL in the past which was a major reason Cal left.

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