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[Slyder]

Clemson joins Florida State in suing over the Grant of Rites to the ACC.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/clemson-sues-acc-challenging-unenforceable-155713413.html

You got to think them and FSU are gone to SOMEBODY, its just a matter of time. Without those two is it worth rebranding the All Coasts Conference? I still think Big 12 made a mistake not taking at least Stanford for research chops (granted doesn't mean Stanford would accept) and Cal if they were linked at the hip. Their current tv contract (I believe) requires the ACC to stay above 15 members or else it voids. It will be 18 (counting Notre Dame) in August when the red headed Pac Children join. Is there 2 more schools that could gain from blowing up the GOR or a way to convince the west coast schools their fortunes are better elsewhere?

[WVRed]

I don't see it happening but if I were the SEC I would try to get NC State over UNC/UVA.

It would get them in North Carolina and would be the better football program of the three. They are kind of the red headed stepchild of the ACC and would probably jump at the chance the way Texas A&M did.

That said id say Clemson and UNC are B1G bound.

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[bucksfan2]

I don't see it happening but if I were the SEC I would try to get NC State over UNC/UVA.

It would get them in North Carolina and would be the better football program of the three. They are kind of the red headed stepchild of the ACC and would probably jump at the chance the way Texas A&M did.

That said id say Clemson and UNC are B1G bound.

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I don't see the appeal of Clemson. I didn't realize that Clemson was a land grant university, which may help them. I guess the big question with Clemson is what are they close to, the Dabo highs or everything else? They don't exactly bring a recruiting area or a large market. And if you don't believe you are getting a championship caliber team, I don't see the move nor the fit.

If I had my pick of schools, I think you go UNC and Virginia. UNC bring Charlotte, but also a program with untapped potential in football. UVA evens things out, and brings the Virginia market. One school that may punch above their weight is Georgia Tech, while an afterthought in both basketball and football, they would get the B1G or whatever they want to call it in every home in Atlanta.

[Chip R]

Iowa offensive tackle Kadyn Proctor is going back to Bama. The histroy on this is he verbally committed to Iowa out of high school but eventually signed with Bama. After this season when Saban retired, he transferred to Iowa. He supposedly received a lot of money from the "Hawkeye Swarm" NIL Collective and there is no indication he gave it back.

https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/39767466/iowa-ot-kadyn-proctor-re-enter-portal-rejoin-alabama

[Slyder]

Iowa offensive tackle Kadyn Proctor is going back to Bama. The histroy on this is he verbally committed to Iowa out of high school but eventually signed with Bama. After this season when Saban retired, he transferred to Iowa. He supposedly received a lot of money from the "Hawkeye Swarm" NIL Collective and there is no indication he gave it back.

https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/39767466/iowa-ot-kadyn-proctor-re-enter-portal-rejoin-alabama

Think this would fall under breach of contract as he was given whatever $ amount to play tackle and has gone back on that agreement?

[RedTeamGo!]

Think this would fall under breach of contract as he was given whatever $ amount to play tackle and has gone back on that agreement?

Nope. Sounds this is through some Iowa collective and he received an up front no string attached signing bonus. Kid showed up, got some money, literally did not go to one Iowa practice, and dipped back to Bama.

Folks that are saying college football is totally fine right now are crazy. This stuff is going to get worse before it gets better. There are zero rules right now.

[Slyder]

Nope. Sounds this is through some Iowa collective and he received an up front no string attached signing bonus. Kid showed up, got some money, literally did not go to one Iowa practice, and dipped back to Bama.

Folks that are saying college football is totally fine right now are crazy. This stuff is going to get worse before it gets better. There are zero rules right now.

Highlighted the important part. I'm not old enough to remember when pro sports started getting Free Agency... was it anything like the Transfer Portal as in there were no rules? Boosters need to be smarter than college kids too.

[RedTeamGo!]

Highlighted the important part. I'm not old enough to remember when pro sports started getting Free Agency... was it anything like the Transfer Portal as in there were no rules? Boosters need to be smarter than college kids too.

Yep, that last part is huge. My guess is that the Iowa boosters were so excited they were getting Proctor and figured since he was coming home to Iowa there was no way he’d take advantage of them and welp. People need to realize, all these players are friends and the vast majority of them don’t really care about where they are playing. At this point they see this as a way to get paid and take care of themselves and their families. And WHO CAN BLAME THEM? I’d do the same thing. Proctor’s best friend goes to Iowa, Xavier Nwampka. I guarantee they talked about this situation well before Proctor left from Bama. Xavier probably told him “yeah man, these boosters are idiots if you want to make a quick buck and go back to Bama.” These are kids making tons of money.

The spring portal opens up in a couple weeks. Buckle up.

[Chip R]

Highlighted the important part. I'm not old enough to remember when pro sports started getting Free Agency... was it anything like the Transfer Portal as in there were no rules? Boosters need to be smarter than college kids too.

There were rules. In baseball, a free agent would have to participate in a draft where only teams that were interested in him could sign him. The Reds were infamous for not participating in it. Like now, there were times one team thought they had a player locked up only to find the player signed with someone else. But those free agents eventually signed long term contracts. They didn't play with a team one year then play with someone else the next.

I think that if a NIL collective gave money to a kid on his promise to play for their program and the kid ditches them, that is pretty stupid of the collective and I don't blame the kid for taking the money. That said, it's pretty unethical for the kid to not give back that money. It's clear he isn't going to college to further his education. I think it says a lot about his judgement - or lack thereof.

[cumberlandreds]

What all this is going to come down to is that these athletes are going to be employees of the university and they will have to sign a contract for X amount of seasons to play and be paid. That way there's no jumping around and taking money for no work performed. It will probably be better this way as you will know from year to year who will be there and who won't.

[WVRed]

What all this is going to come down to is that these athletes are going to be employees of the university and they will have to sign a contract for X amount of seasons to play and be paid. That way there's no jumping around and taking money for no work performed. It will probably be better this way as you will know from year to year who will be there and who won't.And then they will unionize.



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[Sea Ray]

These NIL folks are idiots if they dole out money before the season starts. Lesson learned here

[WVRed]

Yep, that last part is huge. My guess is that the Iowa boosters were so excited they were getting Proctor and figured since he was coming home to Iowa there was no way he’d take advantage of them and welp. People need to realize, all these players are friends and the vast majority of them don’t really care about where they are playing. At this point they see this as a way to get paid and take care of themselves and their families. And WHO CAN BLAME THEM? I’d do the same thing. Proctor’s best friend goes to Iowa, Xavier Nwampka. I guarantee they talked about this situation well before Proctor left from Bama. Xavier probably told him “yeah man, these boosters are idiots if you want to make a quick buck and go back to Bama.” These are kids making tons of money.

The spring portal opens up in a couple weeks. Buckle up.Rumor is Caleb Downs is going back to Bama as well.

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[RiverRat13]

Nope. Sounds this is through some Iowa collective and he received an up front no string attached signing bonus. Kid showed up, got some money, literally did not go to one Iowa practice, and dipped back to Bama.

Folks that are saying college football is totally fine right now are crazy. This stuff is going to get worse before it gets better. There are zero rules right now.

The schools could end the craziness today by naming the players their employees.

[Chip R]

What all this is going to come down to is that these athletes are going to be employees of the university and they will have to sign a contract for X amount of seasons to play and be paid. That way there's no jumping around and taking money for no work performed. It will probably be better this way as you will know from year to year who will be there and who won't.

Then it's really not college athletics any more, is it? It's a minor league. They don't need to attend classes unless they want to. They don't really need to enroll. There should be no minimum test score to play. Perhaps programs could make trades. OSU needs a running back so they trade a second string QB to Texas for one.

[RedTeamGo!]

Rumor is Caleb Downs is going back to Bama as well.

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Nah, that one is just wishful thinking by Bama fans.

And I know exactly what you are going to say "He stopped following Ohio State on IG and started following Alabama!"

Nope, he never followed OSU and never stopped following Bama.

The difference is Downs has been working his tail off at OSU practices and in the facilities. Proctor never practiced with Iowa once.

[cumberlandreds]

Then it's really not college athletics any more, is it? It's a minor league. They don't need to attend classes unless they want to. They don't really need to enroll. There should be no minimum test score to play. Perhaps programs could make trades. OSU needs a running back so they trade a second string QB to Texas for one.

Nope, I don't think it is now. They will be paid contract employees that will eventually unionize. At some point the NBA,NFL and MLB will use them as a minor league. The days of true college athletics are over. At least for the major colleges.

[RedTeamGo!]

Nah, that one is just wishful thinking by Bama fans.

And I know exactly what you are going to say "He stopped following Ohio State on IG and started following Alabama!"

Nope, he never followed OSU and never stopped following Bama.

The difference is Downs has been working his tail off at OSU practices and in the facilities. Proctor never practiced with Iowa once.

OSU’s biggest collective put out a tweet that Downs is locked in with them “for a big year” - aka he has a signed contract and a Bama writer said Downs was at OSU practice today, is locked in with the Buckeyes, and is not coming back to Bama.

[bucksfan2]

Nope, I don't think it is now. They will be paid contract employees that will eventually unionize. At some point the NBA,NFL and MLB will use them as a minor league. The days of true college athletics are over. At least for the major colleges.

The NFL already uses CFB as the minor leagues, and its probably the best system they could have going. Too many other professional football leagues fail to warrant anything else.

If more money flows into college basketball, I think you will see CBB become a true minor league like it was a couple of decades ago. The NBA is probably better served with kids staying in school longer. I think the G League is a dumpster fire and the game would be better served with a CBB minor league to the NBA with Europe as a place to go if you aren't good enough to play in the NBA. CBB has far better coaching and more eyeballs than that of the G League.

The only tricky sport here is baseball. The minor league system is too engrained in the sport. You have too many foreign players entering the minor league system. And a traditional baseball season would encompass both spring and fall semesters. I just don't see money pouring into baseball, its more of a niche sport in college, unless the MLB teams made a massive investment.

FWIW I don't think they unionize, I think NIL will come with some guardrails, and you will see binding contracts issued. The Iowa collective isn't going to issue another NIL package to a player like that again. And unless you are one of the top few programs, you want a little more protection with NIL money spent.

[Sea Ray]

This isn't just a football story but the NCAA is now allowing unlimited portal entries. You can change schools an endless amount of time and not sit out. Exhibit A:



In a notable move that would not have been permissible without a waiver under previous rules, Alabama offensive tackle Kadyn Proctor entered the portal in January after Crimson Tide coach Nick Saban retired, committed to Iowa, but then changed his mind during the spring and has reentered the portal with the intention to reenroll at Alabama.


https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/other/ncaa-allows-transfers-to-be-immediately-eligible-no-matter-how-many-times-they-ve-switched-schools/ar-BB1lO6tT?cvid=2720649224954cb18039f05d381a46f5&ei=22

Us fans truly will be rooting for the uniforms from now on. I guess it's worth noting, this was forced on NCAA by the courts

[WVRed]

This isn't just a football story but the NCAA is now allowing unlimited portal entries. You can change schools an endless amount of time and not sit out. Exhibit A:




https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/other/ncaa-allows-transfers-to-be-immediately-eligible-no-matter-how-many-times-they-ve-switched-schools/ar-BB1lO6tT?cvid=2720649224954cb18039f05d381a46f5&ei=22

Us fans truly will be rooting for the uniforms from now on. I guess it's worth noting, this was forced on NCAA by the courtsI saw they were trying to negotiate over grades being a deciding factor in transfers but I'm sure a lawsuit will put a stop to it.

What's worse is colleges begging for people to contribute to NIL with inflation through the roof. If I have to choose between feeding my family or sending $100 to UK, guess which one I'm going to pick.

It's an arms race right now and whoever has the biggest boosters and can keep the boosters happy wins.

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[bucksfan2]

This isn't just a football story but the NCAA is now allowing unlimited portal entries. You can change schools an endless amount of time and not sit out. Exhibit A:




https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/other/ncaa-allows-transfers-to-be-immediately-eligible-no-matter-how-many-times-they-ve-switched-schools/ar-BB1lO6tT?cvid=2720649224954cb18039f05d381a46f5&ei=22

Us fans truly will be rooting for the uniforms from now on. I guess it's worth noting, this was forced on NCAA by the courts

I think ultimately this will be decided by NIL contracts. These collectives and schools are going to get smarter and make the NIL deals more like a contract. You want to get your NIL money, then you are bound to the school, or you have to pay back a pro-rated portion.

[Chip R]

Us fans truly will be rooting for the uniforms from now on. I guess it's worth noting, this was forced on NCAA by the courts

Haven't we always, though? Even before all this started and before Covid, they could only stay four years maximum. Once they are gone, they are gone and someone new is going to replace them. Did we not love the transfer player that came in and excelled for 1-3 years as much as the guy who stayed four years?

[WVRed]

Haven't we always, though? Even before all this started and before Covid, they could only stay four years maximum. Once they are gone, they are gone and someone new is going to replace them. Did we not love the transfer player that came in and excelled for 1-3 years as much as the guy who stayed four years?

Back then there were teeth in transferring so you didn't see it as much.

You couldn't transfer in the same conference and you also had to sit out a year.



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[cumberlandreds]

Haven't we always, though? Even before all this started and before Covid, they could only stay four years maximum. Once they are gone, they are gone and someone new is going to replace them. Did we not love the transfer player that came in and excelled for 1-3 years as much as the guy who stayed four years?

You definitely feel more of an attachment to players who stay more than one year. Plenty of those one and dones at UK I have completely forgotten about even though they may have had a good season. I'm sure most them feel nothing about UK either. It was just a stopover for more money.

[bucksfan2]

Haven't we always, though? Even before all this started and before Covid, they could only stay four years maximum. Once they are gone, they are gone and someone new is going to replace them. Did we not love the transfer player that came in and excelled for 1-3 years as much as the guy who stayed four years?

The memorable ones stay three years max, and often times you get two years of watching them play.

As an OSU fan, you don't see a lot of material transfers out of the program. There are few better places to be a starter or in the two deep than OSU.

I do feel for the "lesser" programs who have to battle day in day out to keep their guys.

[WVRed]

The memorable ones stay three years max, and often times you get two years of watching them play.

As an OSU fan, you don't see a lot of material transfers out of the program. There are few better places to be a starter or in the two deep than OSU.

I do feel for the "lesser" programs who have to battle day in day out to keep their guys.

If OSU underperforms and Day gets canned, it'll happen.

Honestly I think the future in NIL is to hire someone who is an alum to provide stability. Not really happening in football but basketball it's kind of a safe bet.

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[kaldaniels]

https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/39976083/ncaa-approves-helmet-communications-fbs-games

Helmet comms are here. I found it really puzzling how some of you guys said it couldn’t be done.

“They’ll need special FCC licenses!” :rolleyes:

Maybe I’m being obnoxious about it but this isn’t rocket science. Great for the game.

[Slyder]

https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/39976083/ncaa-approves-helmet-communications-fbs-games

Helmet comms are here. I found it really puzzling how some of you guys said it couldn’t be done.

“They’ll need special FCC licenses!” :rolleyes:

Maybe I’m being obnoxious about it but this isn’t rocket science. Great for the game.

NFL has only been doing it for what a decade? This is going to suck for d2-naia-d3 type programs but big time d1... they should have had something 5 years ago... at least.

[kaldaniels]

NFL has only been doing it for what a decade? This is going to suck for d2-naia-d3 type programs but big time d1... they should have had something 5 years ago... at least.

1994 for the NFL bro. During which time it has evolved.

[plantmanky]

https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/39976083/ncaa-approves-helmet-communications-fbs-games

Helmet comms are here. I found it really puzzling how some of you guys said it couldn’t be done.

“They’ll need special FCC licenses!” :rolleyes:

Maybe I’m being obnoxious about it but this isn’t rocket science. Great for the game.

Learn to read, I said in order for the frequency to be encrypted, like the NFL is, they had to have FCC Licenses for every team. What they are using is nothing more than the headsets Nascar uses that anyone can listen in on. (if they have the equipment)

[kaldaniels]

Learn to read, I said in order for the frequency to be encrypted, like the NFL is, they had to have FCC Licenses for every team. What they are using is nothing more than the headsets Nascar uses that anyone can listen in on. (if they have the equipment)

I read this.


The reason College doesn't have the headsets in the helmets is the FCC licenses for each team.

[kaldaniels]

And snark aside I asked in that initial thread for more info regarding the FCC license issue and got nothing.

I truly didn’t see much when I googled it - again, can we get some info here?

I see a GSC company out of Nebraska is responsible for the NFL radios (article is several years old) and their website advertises the signal is digital, not analog and has military grade encryption.

[kaldaniels]

Sorry I’m thinking about this now.

College coaches now use wireless headsets coach to booth. And from what I see they aren’t totally FCC-license locked down secure. And things are fine - granted it seems possible they could be hacked but that’s a bridge I’ll cross when there.

So what’s the matter with coach to player? Nothing if you ask me.

[Sea Ray]

Haven't we always, though? Even before all this started and before Covid, they could only stay four years maximum. Once they are gone, they are gone and someone new is going to replace them. Did we not love the transfer player that came in and excelled for 1-3 years as much as the guy who stayed four years?

Prior to this you knew your star freshman would be here for at least 3 yrs. In fact we kinda counted down the years. We went so far as to count the games they played to make sure they maintained their red shirt. Now, why would we care if a guy redshirts? In fact if he does he might get pissed and leave. It completely changes how we view our team. In MLB, we can count the years we can count on Elly playing for us. If he could leave at the end of the year after we suffered through his growing pains, that'd suck

Tennessee and Kentucky have lost most of their basketball team in just the past 2-3 weeks

[*BaseClogger*]

College coaches now use wireless headsets coach to booth. And from what I see they aren’t totally FCC-license locked down secure. And things are fine - granted it seems possible they could be hacked but that’s a bridge I’ll cross when there.

Michigan football:

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[Roy Tucker]

I have no additional info, but I can’t imagine the FCC licensing for a radio connection to a quarterback is that much money, comparatively speaking. Any Div 1 team should be able to afford it given the big bucks that sloshes around college sports now.

[Sea Ray]

Georgia QB Jaden Rashada sues Florida coach Billy Napier, among others, over botched $13.85M NIL deal


Georgia quarterback Jaden Rashada has sued Florida coach Billy Napier, top Gators booster Hugh Hathcock and former football staffer Marcus Castro-Walker over a failed name, image and likeness deal that would have paid the quarterback $13.85 million, according to a lawsuit filed in federal court on Tuesday.

The bombshell lawsuit, which features the unprecedented action of an active SEC quarterback suing a sitting rival head coach, is the most notable NIL-related lawsuit to date. In many ways, Rashada became the face of the chaotic nature of early NIL that was full of big promises with little oversight on the heels of his Florida deal falling apart.

https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/georgia-qb-jaden-rashada-sues-florida-coach-billy-napier-among-others-over-botched-13-85m-nil-deal/

Complicated world we now live in

[Sea Ray]

Report: James Franklin accused of interfering with medical decisions on players from team doctors

https://www.on3.com/college/penn-state-nittany-lions/news/report-james-franklin-accused-of-interfering-with-medical-decisions-on-players-from-team-doctors/

[RedTeamGo!]

Georgia QB Jaden Rashada sues Florida coach Billy Napier, among others, over botched $13.85M NIL deal



https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/georgia-qb-jaden-rashada-sues-florida-coach-billy-napier-among-others-over-botched-13-85m-nil-deal/

Complicated world we now live in

I am losing interest in college football fast with all of this nonsense going on, starting with the Michigan cheating scandal. They built a program based on cheating and won a national championship with no repercussions. The sport just kind of sucks now.

[Chip R]

House vs. NCAA is three antitrust cases involving NIL money that would go to former Division I athletes in the four years before NIL went into effect. Right now it's looking like a $2.8 billion settlement. The problem is that the non-P5 conferences may have to provide more money than the P5 schools are. They believe that since the vast majority of the plaintiffs played for the P5 teams. There's also the issue of how much each player is getting.

https://sports.yahoo.com/with-28b-settlement-looming-ncaas-smaller-conferences-feeling-squeezed-what-other-options-are-there-210917099.html

[Sea Ray]

House vs. NCAA is three antitrust cases involving NIL money that would go to former Division I athletes in the four years before NIL went into effect. Right now it's looking like a $2.8 billion settlement. The problem is that the non-P5 conferences may have to provide more money than the P5 schools are. They believe that since the vast majority of the plaintiffs played for the P5 teams. There's also the issue of how much each player is getting.

https://sports.yahoo.com/with-28b-settlement-looming-ncaas-smaller-conferences-feeling-squeezed-what-other-options-are-there-210917099.html

Non Power 5 conferences shouldn't have to pay much of that at all. The article doesn't say much about how they arrived at that allocation but it sounds like the NCAA is the one screwing them