"Who in the Hell is Mel Kiper?",...The 2024 NFL Draft

[Kingspoint]

In honor of the great Bill Tobin and his reference to Mel Kiper slamming the Colts, stating "That's why the Colts are picking 2nd every year in the Draft!". Then Kiper responded, "That's why the Colts are the laughing stock of the league, year in and year out."

7 Round Mock Drafts

PFF https://www.pff.com/news/draft-2024-nfl-mock-draft-pff-analysts-all-seven-rounds

NFL https://www.nfl.com/news/seven-round-2024-nfl-mock-draft-round-1

Sporting News https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nfl/news/nfl-mock-draft-2024-7-rounds/e5ba9c59dc9a5ebb1d0fd563

ESPN https://www.espn.com/nfl/draft2024/insider/story/_/id/39983768/2024-nfl-mock-draft-jordan-reid-seven-rounds-257-picks-predictions-final

SI https://www.si.com/nfl/packers/mock-draft-three-days-2024-draft

The Athletic https://theathletic.com/5418352/2024/04/17/nfl-mock-draft-2024-full-seven-rounds-dane-brugler/

profootballnetwork https://www.profootballnetwork.com/adam-caplan-2024-nfl-mock-draft-april-22/

[Kingspoint]

Round 1

1) Chicago Bears (from Carolina)
2) Washington Commanders
3) New England Patriots
4) Arizona Cardinals
5) Los Angeles Chargers
6) New York Giants
7) Tennessee Titans
8) Atlanta Falcons
9) Chicago Bears
10) New York Jets
11) Minnesota Vikings
12) Denver Broncos
13) Las Vegas Raiders
14) New Orleans Saints
15) Indianapolis Colts
16) Seattle Seahawks
17) Jacksonville Jaguars
18) Cincinnati Bengals
19) Los Angeles Rams
20) Pittsburgh Steelers
21) Miami Dolphins
22) Philadelphia Eagles
23) Minnesota Vikings (from Cleveland through Houston)
24) Dallas Cowboys
25) Green Bay Packers
26) Tampa Bay Buccaneers
27) Arizona Cardinals (from Houston)
28) Buffalo Bills
29) Detroit Lions
30) Baltimore Ravens
31) San Francisco 49ers
32) Kansas City Chiefs


Round 2

33) Carolina Panthers
34) New England Patriots
35) Arizona Cardinals
36) Washington Commanders
37) Los Angeles Chargers
38) Tennessee Titans
39) Carolina Panthers (from N.Y. Giants)
40) Washington Commanders (from Chicago)
41) Green Bay Packers (from N.Y. Jets)
42) Houston Texans (from Minnesota)
43) Atlanta Falcons
44) Las Vegas Raiders
45) New Orleans Saints (from Denver)
46) Indianapolis Colts
47) New York Giants (from Seattle)
48) Jacksonville Jaguars
49) Cincinnati Bengals
50) Philadelphia Eagles (from New Orleans)
51) Pittsburgh Steelers
52) Los Angeles Rams
53) Philadelphia Eagles
54) Cleveland Browns
55) Miami Dolphins
56) Dallas Cowboys
57) Tampa Bay Buccaneers
58) Green Bay Packers
59) Houston Texans
60) Buffalo Bills
61) Detroit Lions
62) Baltimore Ravens
63) San Francisco 49ers
64) Kansas City Chiefs


Round 3

65) Carolina Panthers
66) Arizona Cardinals
67) Washington Commanders
68) New England Patriots
69) Los Angeles Chargers
70) New York Giants
71) Arizona Cardinals (from Tennessee)
72) New York Jets
73) Detroit Lions (from Minnesota)
74) Atlanta Falcons
75) Chicago Bears
76) Denver Broncos
77) Las Vegas Raiders
78) Washington Commanders (from Seattle)
79) Atlanta Falcons (from Jacksonville)
80) Cincinnati Bengals
81) Seattle Seahawks (from New Orleans through Denver)
82) Indianapolis Colts
83) Los Angeles Rams
84) Pittsburgh Steelers
85) Cleveland Browns
86) Houston Texans (from Philadelphia)
87) Dallas Cowboys
88) Green Bay Packers
89) Tampa Bay Buccaneers
90) Arizona Cardinals (from Houston)
91) Green Bay Packers (from Buffalo)
92) Tampa Bay Buccaneers (from Detroit)
93) Baltimore Ravens
94) San Francisco 49ers
95) Kansas City Chiefs
96) Jacksonville Jaguars (Compensatory Selection)
97) Cincinnati Bengals (Compensatory Selection)
98) Pittsburgh Steelers (from Philadelphia; Compensatory Selection)
99) Los Angeles Rams (Special Compensatory Selection)
100) Washington Commanders (from San Francisco; Special Compensatory Selection)


Round 4

101) Carolina Panthers
102) Seattle Seahawks (from Washington)
103) New England Patriots
104) Arizona Cardinals
105) Los Angeles Chargers
106) Tennessee Titans
107) New York Giants
108) Minnesota Vikings
109) Atlanta Falcons
110) Los Angeles Chargers (from Chicago)
111) New York Jets
112) Las Vegas Raiders
113) Baltimore Ravens (from Denver through N.Y. Jets)
114) Jacksonville Jaguars
115) Cincinnati Bengals
116) Jacksonville Jaguars (from New Orleans)
117) Indianapolis Colts
118) Seattle Seahawks
119) Pittsburgh Steelers
120) Philadelphia Eagles (from L.A. Rams through Pittsburgh)
121) Denver Broncos (from Miami)
122) Chicago Bears (from Philadelphia)
123) Houston Texans (from Cleveland)
124) San Francisco 49ers (from Dallas)
125) Tampa Bay Buccaneers
126) Green Bay Packers
127) Houston Texans
128) Buffalo Bills
129) Minnesota Vikings (from Detroit)
130) Baltimore Ravens
131) Kansas City Chiefs
132) San Francisco 49ers (Compensatory Selection)
133) Buffalo Bills (Compensatory Selection)
134) New York Jets (from Baltimore; Compensatory Selection)
135) San Francisco 49ers


Round 5

136) Denver Broncos (from Carolina through Cleveland)
137) New England Patriots
138) Arizona Cardinals
139) Washington Commanders
140) Los Angeles Chargers
141) Carolina Panthers (from N.Y. Giants)
142) Carolina Panthers (from Tennessee)
143) Atlanta Falcons
144) Buffalo Bills (from Chicago)
145) Denver Broncos (from N.Y. Jets)
146) Tennessee Titans (from Minnesota through Philadelphia)
147) Denver Broncos
148) Las Vegas Raiders
149) Cincinnati Bengals
150) New Orleans Saints
151) Indianapolis Colts
152) Washington Commanders (from Seattle)
153) Jacksonville Jaguars
154) Los Angeles Rams
155) Los Angeles Rams (from Pittsburgh)
156) Cleveland Browns (from Philadelphia through Arizona)
157) Minnesota Vikings (from Cleveland)
158) Miami Dolphins
159) Kansas City Chiefs (from Dallas)
160) Buffalo Bills (from Green Bay)
161) Philadelphia Eagles (from Tampa Bay)
162) Arizona Cardinals (from Houston)
163) Buffalo Bills
164) Detroit Lions
165) Baltimore Ravens
166) New York Giants (from San Francisco through Carolina)
167) Minnesota Vikings (from Kansas City)
168) New Orleans Saints (Compensatory Selection)
169) Green Bay Packers (Compensatory Selection)
170) New Orleans Saints (Compensatory Selection)
171) Philadelphia Eagles (Compensatory Selection)
172) Philadelphia Eagles (Compensatory Selection)
173) Kansas City Chiefs (Compensatory Selection)
174) Dallas Cowboys (Compensatory Selection)
175) New Orleans Saints (Compensatory Selection)
176) San Francisco 49ers (Compensatory Selection)


Round 6

177) Minnesota Vikings (from Carolina through Jacksonville)
178) Pittsburgh Steelers (from Arizona through Carolina)
179) Seattle Seahawks (from Washington)
180) New England Patriots
181) Los Angeles Chargers
182) Tennessee Titans (reacquired through Philadelphia)
183) New York Giants
184) Miami Dolphins (from Chicago)
185) New York Jets
186) Arizona Cardinals (from Minnesota)
187) Atlanta Falcons
188) Houston Texans (from Las Vegas through New England and Minnesota)
189) Houston Texans (from Denver through L.A. Rams and Buffalo)
190) New Orleans Saints
191) Indianapolis Colts
192) Seattle Seahawks
193) New England Patriots (from Jacksonville)
194) Cincinnati Bengals
195) Pittsburgh Steelers
196) Los Angeles Rams
197) Atlanta Falcons (from Cleveland)
198) Miami Dolphins
199) New Orleans Saints (from Philadelphia)
200) Buffalo Bills (from Dallas through Houston)
201) Detroit Lions (from Tampa Bay)
202) Green Bay Packers
203) New York Jets (from Houston through Cleveland, Denver)
204) Buffalo Bills
205) Detroit Lions
206) Cleveland Browns (from Baltimore)
207) Denver Broncos (from San Francisco)
208) Las Vegas Raiders (from Kansas City)
209) Los Angeles Rams (Compensatory Selection)
210) Philadelphia Eagles (Compensatory Selection)
211) San Francisco 49ers (Compensatory Selection)
212) Jacksonville Jaguars (Compensatory Selection)
213) Los Angeles Rams (Compensatory Selection)
214) Cincinnati Bengals (Compensatory Selection)
215) San Francisco 49ers (Compensatory Selection)
216) Dallas Cowboys (Compensatory Selection)
217) Los Angeles Rams (Compensatory Selection)
218) Baltimore Ravens (from N.Y. Jets; Compensatory Selection)
219) Green Bay Packers (Compensatory Selection)
220) Tampa Bay Buccaneers (Compensatory Selection)


Round 7

221) Kansas City Chiefs (from Carolina through Tennessee)
222) Washington Commanders
223) Las Vegas Raiders (from New England)
224) Cincinnati Bengals (from Arizona through Houston)
225) Los Angeles Chargers
226) Arizona Cardinals (from N.Y. Giants)
227) Cleveland Browns (from Tennessee)
228) Baltimore Ravens (from N.Y. Jets)
229) Las Vegas Raiders (from Minnesota)
230) Minnesota Vikings (from Atlanta through Cleveland and Arizona)
231) New England Patriots (from Chicago)
232) Minnesota Vikings (from Denver through San Francisco and Houston)
233) Dallas Cowboys (from Las Vegas)
234) Indianapolis Colts
235) Seattle Seahawks
236) Jacksonville Jaguars
237) Cincinnati Bengals
238) Houston Texans (from New Orleans)
239) New Orleans Saints (from L.A. Rams through Denver)
240) Carolina Panthers (from Pittsburgh)
241) Miami Dolphins
242) Tennessee Titans (from Philadelphia)
243) Cleveland Browns
244) Dallas Cowboys
245) Green Bay Packers
246) Tampa Bay Buccaneers
247) Houston Texans
248) Buffalo Bills
249) Detroit Lions
250) Baltimore Ravens
251) San Francisco 49ers
252) Tennessee Titans (from Kansas City)
253) Los Angeles Chargers (Compensatory Selection)
254) Los Angeles Rams (Compensatory Selection)
255) Green Bay Packers (Compensatory Selection)
256) Denver Broncos (from N.Y. Jets; Compensatory Selection)
257) New York Jets (Compensatory Selection)

[Kingspoint]

Draft Trackers

https://www.nfl.com/draft/tracker/picks/

https://www.espn.com/nfl/draft/live

[Kingspoint]

If anyone has been paying attention to the prospects and teams' leakings of information and false information, I'd love to hear any predictions anyone has about any particular teams.

I personally have no idea as I've paid very little attention this Winter to College and this Spring to teams' interests, other than some obvious stuff that continually gets plastered on the headlines.

[Kingspoint]

John Lynch was quoted as saying that the 49ers have 22 players listed with 1st Round grades, which is higher on their board than their average number of 1st Round grades on a given year.

The 49ers and John Lynch are among the very best at evaluating talent. They hit on more players than other teams do since Lynch has been there.


So, one of the huge questions about the draft is, "how many 2nd Round rated QB's will go in the 1st Round and in the top-22 picks that would push some of this 1st Round Graded talent down further in the draft".

For teams like the Bengals, who pick at #18, that's a huge question. If the board followed the graded talent that the 49ers have given, then that would make 5 players left for the Bengals to choose from that are truly 1st Round grades. Add in a team like the 49ers, who sit at #31, and they are going to be eyeing a trade into the early 20's to grab a player they think has fallen significantly. There's almost zero chance that the 49ers are going to not be active on the trade market on Day 1 of the draft. They'll try to make a trade with one of these teams:

13) Las Vegas Raiders
14) New Orleans Saints
15) Indianapolis Colts
16) Seattle Seahawks
17) Jacksonville Jaguars
18) Cincinnati Bengals
19) Los Angeles Rams
20) Pittsburgh Steelers
21) Miami Dolphins
22) Philadelphia Eagles
23) Minnesota Vikings (from Cleveland through Houston)

I went as far as #13 as I find it highly unlikely that the #13 pick will be owned by the Raiders when that pick comes up.

Again, for every QB that isn't a 1st Rd grade that goes before the Bengals' pick, that's one more player that falls to them that they can get giddy about. Of course, many will be getting giddy about them.

[WVRed]

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[Sea Ray]

Bengals already have 10 picks in this year's draft. I think that makes them a very unlikely candidate to trade down.

[Dom Heffner]

Bengals already have 10 picks in this year's draft. I think that makes them a very unlikely candidate to trade down.

I wouldn't get too excited about that, they may find another Drew Sample to waste a high pick on....

[Sea Ray]

I wouldn't get too excited about that, they may find another Drew Sample to waste a high pick on....

I agree that he wasn't the best choice but he's not a good poster child for a bad early pick. If you sign a guy you drafted to an extension, by my definition it was an OK pick

[Boss-Hog]

Bengals already have 10 picks in this year's draft. I think that makes them a very unlikely candidate to trade down.Not necessarily if they can trade down a bit using one of their four top 100 picks to pick up a fifth pick in the top 100 and still choose from the same list of players available with the traded pick. Two of the three extra picks are in the sixth and seventh round, so those aren't extremely valuable or very likely to make the 53 man roster.

[WrongVerb]

Not necessarily if they can trade down a bit using one of their four top 100 picks to pick up a fifth pick in the top 100 and still choose from the same list of players available with the traded pick. Two of the three extra picks are in the sixth and seventh round, so those aren't extremely valuable or very likely to make the 53 man roster.

I'd rather the team have 5-6 picks in the first 100 or so (they select at 115 in the 4th round), than the 10 picks with 6 day 3 picks they currently have. Would love to see some trades up, even if it goes against the Bengals general draft philosophy.

[WVRed]

Not necessarily if they can trade down a bit using one of their four top 100 picks to pick up a fifth pick in the top 100 and still choose from the same list of players available with the traded pick. Two of the three extra picks are in the sixth and seventh round, so those aren't extremely valuable or very likely to make the 53 man roster.

They did this the year they traded up to take Cam Taylor Britt then traded away a pick later in that draft.

Id be happy if they actually got aggressive if there was someone they actually wanted but I don't see that happening. They'll let the board fall to them as usual.

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[WrongVerb]

These are the players I think will be off the board before the Bengals pick:



QB Williams
QB Daniels
QB Maye
QB McCarthy
QB Nix
QB Penix
DE Turner
DE Latu
WR Nabors
WR Harrison
WR Odunze
CB Mitchell
CB Arnold
OT Alt
TE Bowers
DT Murphy


That's 16 players, but leaves these who would likely fall to the Bengals:



OT Fuaga
OT Fashanu
OT Latham
DT Newton

Of these, in order I probably want Fashanu, Fuaga, Latham, Newton.

[Boss-Hog]

They did this the year they traded up to take Cam Taylor Britt then traded away a pick later in that draft.

Id be happy if they actually got aggressive if there was someone they actually wanted but I don't see that happening. They'll let the board fall to them as usual.

Sent from my SM-S911U using TapatalkI could definitely see a CTB type trade up using one of the late day three picks if they're afraid of missing out on someone they really want, but I definitely wouldn't expect a bigger trade up than that type.

[WVRed]

I'll actually be surprised if four QBs go in the first round. Levis fell last year and I don't think teams are desperate enough to use a first round pick on Penix. Nix maybe. I could see Drake Maye falling even.

I think QB movement depends on what Washington does. If they take Daniels (who has said he doesn't want to play for them), New England is a likely player to move back. If Washington takes McCarthy instead then Daniels likely gets taken by New England.

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[bucksfan2]

I'll actually be surprised if four QBs go in the first round. Levis fell last year and I don't think teams are desperate enough to use a first round pick on Penix. Nix maybe. I could see Drake Maye falling even.

I think QB movement depends on what Washington does. If they take Daniels (who has said he doesn't want to play for them), New England is a likely player to move back. If Washington takes McCarthy instead then Daniels likely gets taken by New England.

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IMO this depends where the consensus is on those guys. If you are a QB needy team, and you think those guys can be a starter, then more often than not, you see them go higher than they should.

FWIW I think Williams, Maye, McCarthy, and Daniels are all gone within the top 10. I also think one of Nix or Pennix go in the 1st. Who ever doesn't go in the first, I think may fall as most of the QB needy teams already have one.

[Sea Ray]

Those 6th and 7th rd picks will do very little in terms of moving up in day one or two.

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These are the players I think will be off the board before the Bengals pick:



That's 16 players, but leaves these who would likely fall to the Bengals:



Of these, in order I probably want Fashanu, Fuaga, Latham, Newton.

I'd be amazed if only one offensive lineman is off the board when the Bengals pick. I don't see that happening. I hope you're right but I disagree with your crystal ball

[Redhook]

I'll actually be surprised if four QBs go in the first round. Levis fell last year and I don't think teams are desperate enough to use a first round pick on Penix. Nix maybe. I could see Drake Maye falling even.

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For real? Unless Williams, Daniels, Maye or McCarthy suffer a major injury/issue before the draft, itÂ’s a certainty they go in the first round and, most likely, the top 10. Penix and Nix will probably go in the first as well, but IÂ’m not sure either are worthy. A good over/under is 5.5 and I think IÂ’d bet the over, but itÂ’d be close.

[Puffy]

I'll actually be surprised if four QBs go in the first round. Levis fell last year and I don't think teams are desperate enough to use a first round pick on Penix. Nix maybe. I could see Drake Maye falling even.

I think QB movement depends on what Washington does. If they take Daniels (who has said he doesn't want to play for them), New England is a likely player to move back. If Washington takes McCarthy instead then Daniels likely gets taken by New England.

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Well, prepare to be surprised then because I can 99.9% guarantee 4 go in first round. Williams and Daniels are locks to go top 6. Maye is almost same as I think Giants love Maye if he falls to them. Minnesota is coming out of this with QB so there is 4th QB. It's rumored the Raiders love Penix so do they use the 13th or hope he slides to 2nd? Does some team trade back into first round for Penix or Nix to get that 5th year?

I think it's going to be 4 in 1st. But 5 would not surprise me. Heck, 6 might not surprise me either. Now if Rattler goes in first, well, that would surprise me.

[WVRed]

For real? Unless Williams, Daniels, Maye or McCarthy suffer a major injury/issue before the draft, itÂ’s a certainty they go in the first round and, most likely, the top 10. Penix and Nix will probably go in the first as well, but IÂ’m not sure either are worthy. A good over/under is 5.5 and I think IÂ’d bet the over, but itÂ’d be close.




Well, prepare to be surprised then because I can 99.9% guarantee 4 go in first round. Williams and Daniels are locks to go top 6. Maye is almost same as I think Giants love Maye if he falls to them. Minnesota is coming out of this with QB so there is 4th QB. It's rumored the Raiders love Penix so do they use the 13th or hope he slides to 2nd? Does some team trade back into first round for Penix or Nix to get that 5th year?

I think it's going to be 4 in 1st. But 5 would not surprise me. Heck, 6 might not surprise me either. Now if Rattler goes in first, well, that would surprise me.

Probably should have clarified no more than four. Don't know what I was thinking.

From what I've read Minnesota is locked in on Maye. Josh McCown is the QB coach there and coached him in HS.

After seeing Levis fall last year I just wonder how much of a run there will be on QBs after the top four.

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[bucksfan2]

I have seen some speculation that JJ is dropping out of top 5 or so. I think the betting odds for him going in the top 5 are pretty long right now. Said he has a late 1st early 2nd grade which makes sense for him to drop.

I wouldn't be surprised if Williams and Daniels go in the first two picks, then you have NE, Arizona and LAC all trying to trade and move back because they either don't love a QB or need a QB.

[WVRed]

I have seen some speculation that JJ is dropping out of top 5 or so. I think the betting odds for him going in the top 5 are pretty long right now. Said he has a late 1st early 2nd grade which makes sense for him to drop.

I wouldn't be surprised if Williams and Daniels go in the first two picks, then you have NE, Arizona and LAC all trying to trade and move back because they either don't love a QB or need a QB.He will be the 3rd or 4th QB to go. Can't imagine Nix or Penix going above him.

I'm kinda surprised New England hasn't been on McCarthy. Cold weather QB who played at Michigan.

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[Kingspoint]

Love this comment by NBC Sports...

The Athletic’s Dianna Russini reports the Rams are “calling to get into the top 10" in Thursday evening’s draft.

Armed with a first-round pick for the first time since 2016, the Rams apparently don’t know what to do with themselves. They are currently sitting at No. 19 overall. Moving up a minimum of nine spots would take a lot of ammunition for a team with an aging quarterback, one that just lost Aaron Donald to retirement. We can’t say we would advise it, especially were it for a pass catcher. Alas, Sean McVay has long been addicted for bold moves for star receivers, with extremely mixed success.

https://twitter.com/DMRussini/status/1783552423832764925

https://www.nbcsports.com/fantasy/football/player-news

[Kingspoint]

Not only did the John Lynch state that the 49ers were only able to find 22 players they could give 1st Round Grades to, but the Cowboys also mentioned that they have less than 24 players (Cowboys pick at 24, which triggered to response) graded with 1st Round Grades.

I could see teams trying to move up from the mid-20's and below, even from the 2nd Round to try to get to a player that falls to around 16-24 that a team highly covets.

The lower 1st Round picks would likely try not to stay there, I would think.

This is also why the Vikings' offer of the #23 pick including their own pick isn't much of an incentive, as the #23 pick might be viewed as someone who is 2nd Round talent that has to get paid in a decent 1st Round slot.

Vikings don't have as much to offer as they may think to try to move up into the Top-4. I don't think they can get it done and will try to settle for Bo Nix or Michael Penix, Jr. (and they may both be gone by the time the Vikings pick).

[Kingspoint]

April 25th, 2024 at 2:13pm CST by Sam Robinson

Buzz earlier this week pointed to the Eagles making a trade-up effort ahead of Round 1. More is coming out on another potential Philly climb up the first-round board. The Eagles, who have traded up in four of the past five first rounds, are making an aggressive effort to try and move up the board, Bleacher Report’s Jordan Schultz tweets. Going further here, Fox Sports’ Ralph Vacchiano notes the Eagles are “frantically” trying to trade up, listing cornerback as the most likely target. The Eagles hold the No. 22 overall pick.

https://twitter.com/RalphVacchiano/status/1783552510411657703

[Kingspoint]

As a result, it comes as no surprise that Saints general manager Mickey Loomis was asked about the matter at New Orleans’ pre-draft press conference. “Everybody is tradable, it just depends on the offer that you get,” Loomis said (via Luke Johnson of NOLA.com). “And yet, that’s not very common… I don’t like trading players that have been contributors for us. There’s too many ‘what if’ things here. If there was something imminent, well, I still wouldn’t tell you.”

https://www.nola.com/sports/saints/saints-gm-addresses-marshon-lattimore-trade-rumors/article_62affbc4-01ae-11ef-8a5f-ffe90b2716d2.html

[Kingspoint]

Steelers High On OL Graham Barton, Eyeing Broderick Jones Shift To LT

April 25th, 2024 at 9:44am CST by Sam Robinson

The Steelers have two starter-caliber tackles, having drafted one of them (Broderick Jones) in last year’s first round. But the team did not replace February cap casualty Mason Cole. Center sits as an obvious need for Pittsburgh. Linked to wanting to come away from the draft with center and tackle additions, the Steelers brought 11 offensive linemen in on “30” visits. One of them is generating significant interest as the draft nears. Some in the building view Duke prospect Graham Barton as a “generational”-type player, according to the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette’s Gerry Dulac.

Although Barton spent the past three seasons as the Blue Devils’ starting left tackle, he played center as a freshman. The 6-foot-5, 313-pound blocker is expected to return to center to start his pro career, and the Steelers appear a live candidate to select the former Duke mainstay at No. 20. This would be an interesting choice, with Barton having just five starts at center while in college. But he sits 22nd on Daniel Jeremiah’s NFL.com big board; teams also have regularly converted tackles to inside players at the sport’s top level. Cole started every Steelers game at center over the past two seasons, coming in after the team did not like former third-rounder Kendrick Green‘s progress. The Steelers could shift James Daniels back to center, where he spent some time in Chicago, but it does not appear that is the preferred option. This draft is flooded with tackle prospects, with Jeremiah’s big board including seven in the top 25. With tackle a more valuable position, the Steelers passing on options at that spot to fill a need stands to generate a healthy debate in their war room — depending on which tackles the team likes and how the board looks at 20, barring a trade-up maneuver. The Cowboys, who sit at No. 24, are also interested in Barton.

Additionally, the Steelers do appear to be planning to switch Jones from right to left tackle. Earlier this offseason, Dulac predicted Jones — Georgia’s left tackle in 2022 — would move to the blindside post after spending most of his rookie year at RT. The veteran reporter adds the Steelers could prioritize a right tackle due to a desire to shift Jones to the left side. Dan Moore has operated as the Steelers’ LT starter for three seasons, but he is going into a contract year. Pro Football Focus has also continually given the former fourth-round pick low marks, though teams obviously do not use that as a surefire measuring tool. Pittsburgh has Daniels, Jones and Isaac Seumalo entrenched as starters, and Moore has proven durable during his career. But two new blockers may be en route early in this draft. As Russell Wilson (or perhaps Justin Fields) prepares to take over, the Steelers’ line could certainly be upgraded from 2023.

https://www.profootballrumors.com/2024/04/steelers-high-on-ol-graham-barton-eyeing-broderick-jones-shift-to-lt

[Kingspoint]

Patriots Exploring Trade Back Into First Round

April 25th, 2024 at 3:39pm CST by Adam La Rose

Owners of the No. 3 pick, the Patriots are positioned to add a quarterback with their first choice in tonight’s draft. The team may not be finished in round one following a selection in that regard, however. New England has “explored” the possibility of trading late into the first-round order, ESPN’s Mike Reiss reports. The team’s next highest selection is No. 34, and a move back up the board could entail a much smaller cost than the one required for trades strictly seeing Day 1 picks swapped. Presuming a signal-caller is added at No. 3, a second first-round addition could be aimed elsewhere on offense.

The Patriots ranked 31st in the league in scoring last season and 28th in passing yards. Improvement in that respect was known to be an offseason goal, as evidenced by the team’s pursuit of Calvin Ridley. He ultimately signed with the Titans, though, and New England’s most impactful addition at the WR spot to date has been K.J. Osborn. The 2024 draft class – one which has consistently been celebrated for its depth at the receiver position – offers a number of intriguing possibilities for the Patriots and many other teams late in the Day 1 order. The trio of top pass-catchers (Marvin Harrison Jr., Malik Nabers and Rome Odunze) will be long gone by the time New England (hypothetically) gets back on the clock tonight. The likes of Brian Thomas Jr., Xavier Worthy and Adonai Mitchell could be within range, however.

https://www.profootballrumors.com/2024/04/patriots-exploring-trade-back-into-first-round

[Kingspoint]

"In play to become the fourth receiver drafted this year, LSU’s Brian Thomas Jr. may instead see some injury concerns lead to a slight drop. NFL medical staffs have flagged Thomas’ shoulders, per SI.com’s Albert Breer, who notes the Tigers’ No. 2 wideout last year may need surgery on his left shoulder after his rookie year. Jeremiah rates Thomas as this class’ No. 4 wideout (17th overall) after an 1,177-yard, 17-touchdown 2023 showing. LSU is still expected to see he and Malik Nabers become first-rounders tonight."

https://www.si.com/nfl/2024/04/25/2024-nfl-mock-draft-final-first-round-caleb-williams-jayden-daniels

[Kingspoint]

49ers Discussing First-Round Trade Involving WRs Brandon Aiyuk, Deebo Samuel

April 25th, 2024 at 4:11pm CST by Adam La Rose

Plenty of speculation has surrounded Brandon Aiyuk recently, and that continues to be the case as the draft approaches. Fellow 49ers receiver Deebo Samuel could also find himself on the trade block. San Francisco has discussed a move up the board in the first round – perhaps as high as the top 10 in the order – in a trade which would include either Aiyuk or Samuel, The Athletic’s Dianna Russini reports. Despite assurances from general manager John Lynch that the former is expected to stay in place, he will thus remain worth watching closely in the coming hours. San Francisco is not believed to be close on extension talks with Aiyuk, who has publicly displayed his frustration with the lack of a long-term deal. Citing the similarities of his case to that of Samuel not that long ago, Lynch has offered public confidence the former first-rounder will be retained through the draft. Depending on the market which emerges, though, that could stand to change.

Michael Silver of the San Francisco Chronicle confirms teams have shown interest in Samuel in addition to Aiyuk. The former is on the books for two more years, while the latter is set to play on his $14.12MM fifth-year option in 2024. Keeping Aiyuk in the fold on a major raise would be difficult given the implications of extending another skill-position player before quarterback Brock Purdy becomes eligible for a lucrative new deal of his own. The 49ers currently own pick No. 31, and as such they could stand to benefit from a notable move up the board. Jumping into the top 10 would incur a major cost, but including Aiyuk or Samuel in any trade would of course create a notable vacancy in the team’s offense. It will be interesting to see how many teams set to pick early or in the middle of the Day 1 order are interested in adding an expensive veteran at the WR position.

https://twitter.com/DMRussini/status/1783601749112090715

https://www.profootballrumors.com/2024/04/49ers-discussing-first-round-trade-involving-wrs-brandon-aiyuk-deebo-samuel

[Kingspoint]

Jaguars Exploring WRs In Draft, Attempting To Move Up

April 25th, 2024 at 4:50pm CST by Sam Robinson

APRIL 25: Jacksonville is indeed looking to move up the Day 1 order, Dianna Russini of The Athletic reports. She adds teams view the Jaguars as being interested in “a specific pass-catcher.” The No. 17 spot is far beyond the range of the top three receivers available, but an aggressive push could change that with the right trade partner in place.

https://twitter.com/DMRussini/status/1783608293958553918

https://www.profootballrumors.com/2024/04/jaguars-exploring-wrs-in-draft-have-discussed-moving-up

[Kingspoint]

Chicago is on-the-clock.

[Kingspoint]

1. Chicago QB Caleb Williams

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They are the Bears. They will still always be better at Defense than Offense.

[Kingspoint]

2. Washington QB Jayden Daniels

[WVRed]

Drake Maye to the Patriots

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[Kingspoint]

1. Chicago QB Caleb Williams
2. Washington QB Jayden Daniels
3. New England QB Drake Maye

[Kingspoint]

1. Chicago QB Caleb Williams
2. Washington QB Jayden Daniels
3. New England QB Drake Maye
4. Marvin Harrison Jr. Ohio State WR
5. Joe Alt Notre Dame OT
6. Malik Nabers LSU WR

[WVRed]

JC Latham to the Titans

Chargers taking Alt is going to set off a run on the offensive line.

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[WVRed]

Falcons may be going QB despite signing Kirk Cousins

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[WVRed]

Wow. Penix.

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[WVRed]

No trades so far. Surprising.

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[Kingspoint]

Falcons may be going QB despite signing Kirk Cousins

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Pushes one more 1st Round Grade towards the Bengals.

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No trades so far. Surprising.

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Agree.

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Going to be Nix.

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I guess it could be McCarthy.

[WVRed]

After I type that, Minnesota moves up one spot. This is probably McCarthy.

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[Kingspoint]

After I type that, Minnesota moves up one spot. This is probably McCarthy.

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Interesting how the team that signed away Kirk Cousins from them took a QB ahead of them.

[RedTeamGo!]

What in the absolute hell are the Falcons doing with that pick????

[15fan]

Penix at 8 makes no sense, unless it’s part of a trade. But it doesn’t sound like it.

[Kingspoint]

So much for Bowers to be a lock to go in the Top-10.

[UKFlounder]

What in the absolute hell are the Falcons doing with that pick????

Being the Falcons...

[Kingspoint]

J. J. McCarthy...didn't he play the Joker in the Batman series?

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[Kingspoint]

The Jets have sent the 10th overall pick to the Vikings, also dealing No. 203. In exchange, New York will receive Nos. 129 and 157 from Minnesota in addition to the 11th choice.

[WVRed]

Bo Nix to Denver. Six QBs in 12 picks, no defensive players taken yet.

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[Kingspoint]

Bo Nix looks like he's 40 years old.

[Benihana]

Would love to see the Bengals get Bowers or Murphy at 18. Wouldn’t mind trading up a couple spots as soon as one of them is selected.

[Redhook]

Wow, that escalated quickly! 6 QBs in 12 picks. I put the over/under at 5.5, but I didn't it come nearly this fast. This is good for the Bengals since Penix and Nix are probably not 1st round graded talents.

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Would love to see the Bengals get Bowers or Murphy at 18. Wouldn’t mind trading up a couple spots as soon as one of them is selected.

Well, Bowers is gone so let's hope for Murphy.

13 offensive players in a row! That has to be a record.

[Kingspoint]

That's the O-Lineman I wanted the Bengals to take.

Like they said...10-year player who will be a multiple-time All-Pro.

[RedTeamGo!]

Nearly halfway through first round a defensive player hasn’t been drafted yet. This is insane.

[WVRed]

Latu to Colts. First defensive player taken.

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[klw]

J. J. McCarthy...didn't he play the Joker in the Batman series?

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He looks like Joe Pesci in the Oliver Stone movie JFK

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Latu to Colts. First defensive player taken.

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Better Latu than never.

[WVRed]

And there goes Murphy

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[WVRed]

Minnesota just jumped the Bengals for Dallas Turner.

I'm thinking either Quinyon Mitchell or Troy Fautanu.

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[Kingspoint]

Minnesota has traded the 23rd pick to the Jaguars for No. 17, also sending No. 167 this and 2025 third- and fourth-round selections to Jacksonville.

[WVRed]

Looking like Amarius Mims

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[UKFlounder]

Mims, another redshirt guy unless there's an injury.

Last place in the division and they take a project. It will be interesting to see him when he gets on the field in 2025.

[Roy Tucker]

8 career starts? lol.

[RedsManRick]

The good news is that we're awesome at developing raw O-line talent.......

[Redhook]

Darn. Mims is one guy I didn’t want, but what do I know. A project who will redshirt. Man, I had high hopes after the 6 QBs went early, but the next 5 picks didn’t go well for the Bengals.

[Tony Cloninger]

I didn’t want a CB however with And there’s always some team who F the Bengals before them, the Seahawks taking Murphy, I would have taken the CB who’s the best playmaker and also a possible return man. As long as Taylor and Pollack does not try the turn him into a Guard for a year.

[Ohayou]

Big fan of the pick, but Mitchell would have been awesome, too. I have a feeling they are going to tryout Dax at CB this season.

[15fan]

Solid pick by Bengals. Guy on the board most helpful in keeping Burrow off a stretcher? 6’8” and 340 athletic OT from SEC.

[RiverRat13]

Mims, another redshirt guy unless there's an injury.

Last place in the division and they take a project. It will be interesting to see him when he gets on the field in 2025.

Trent Brown has made more than 11 starts just one time in the last five seasons. Mims won't be first on the depth chart but the odds are he will be making some starts next season.

[Sea Ray]

I’m tired of projects and redshirt guys drafted by the Bengals in the first round


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[pedro]

They swung for the fences. Hope they don’t strike out.


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[Redhook]

I’m tired of projects and redshirt guys drafted by the Bengals in the first round


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This.

It might work out, who knows for sure, but it’s a boom or bust pick and the odds aren’t great given the Bengals history with projects, redshirts and OL development. I give the pick a D due to the risk. The first round is not the time to take risks, but they just continue to do it. Outside of the safe and obvious picks of Burrow and Chase, it’s been mostly question marks. I don’t get it.

[Kingspoint]

Trent Brown has made more than 11 starts just one time in the last five seasons. Mims won't be first on the depth chart but the odds are he will be making some starts next season.

If the Bengals win the Super Bowl, we're going to need 21 Starts out of every OL position, 20 if we get the 1st Rd bye.

[RedTeamGo!]

“Nick Saban on ABC about Toledo CB Quinyon Mitchell: "He was our No. 1 guy in the portal last year to try to get him to come out of the portal, and he would never get in the portal."

Saban just fully admitting to tampering lmao

[RedTeamGo!]

Nick Saban on Bengals draft pick Mims:

“In the SEC championship he was on the field for the first 15 snaps and then took himself out. You tell me what that says about him as a player”

[RedTeamGo!]

Aaaaaaaaand the Chiefs get Tyreke Hill 2.0

[Dom Heffner]

Aaaaaaaaand the Chiefs get Tyreke Hill 2.0

the bengals got a guy who is a "project."

[Dom Heffner]

This.

It might work out, who knows for sure, but it’s a boom or bust pick and the odds aren’t great given the Bengals history with projects, redshirts and OL development. I give the pick a D due to the risk. The first round is not the time to take risks, but they just continue to do it. Outside of the safe and obvious picks of Burrow and Chase, it’s been mostly question marks. I don’t get it.

A D- or F. Terrible.

From the crew that brought us Drew Sample.

[Ohayou]

"Projects" generally don't have the kind of tape that Mims has, which is of him dominating NFL talent on a regular basis.

Consider who the most important player on the Bengals is (Burrow), and our history of band-aid solutions at RT. We absolutely need a long-term solution at RT. This was a smart pick.

[KoryMac5]

Aaaaaaaaand the Chiefs get Tyreke Hill 2.0

He's fast and really thin....end of comparisons to Hill.

Worthy struggles with press coverage and he is going to see that a lot in the NFL.

But man if any pick scares you it's this one...as Mahomes can throw it a mile.

[bucksfan2]

Nick Saban on Bengals draft pick Mims:

“In the SEC championship he was on the field for the first 15 snaps and then took himself out. You tell me what that says about him as a player”

Seems kinda odd to say this about a guy without context.

I actually like the pick. I think it makes sense, get him in camp, have him learn from Brown, and then have him ready to be the heir apparent. The Bengals do like their "redshirt" picks, but if you think he can be 10 year stater protecting Burrow, who cares if he sits one season.

The Bengals finished last in the division, and one game out of the playoff because Burrow was hurt and then missed the second half of the season. That will always be the case, makes sense to find the best guys to protect him.

[RedEye]

I think the Mims pick makes a lot of sense.

He was the last on the top tier of OT in a very strong class (behind Alt, Fashanu, Fuaga, Latham). You barely ever get that guy at #18 but this year was an outlier at the position. Played for a top program at a top level of competition. Athletic traits through the roof and great tape, though limited.

If he plays a handful more games last year, he's probably a top 5 pick. You wouldn't see him at the Bengals spot if that's the case. I'm happy they actually got a big dude who is also athletic for a change.

[RedsManRick]

So what's the story behind Mims' low playing time. Conditioning?

[Sea Ray]

So what's the story behind Mims' low playing time. Conditioning?

Didn't play much as a freshman due to Georgia being loaded and from then on, injuries

[KoryMac5]

Didn't play much as a freshman due to Georgia being loaded and from then on, injuries

He was behind Broderick Jones...I think the other thing was he is from a very small High School and was so big he couldn't help but dominate.

I inserted some footage below its unreal how big he is...


https://youtu.be/Y8dlMPPyLJM?si=mCla657h2gABBT0S

[LiferJim]

This.

It might work out, who knows for sure, but it’s a boom or bust pick and the odds aren’t great given the Bengals history with projects, redshirts and OL development. I give the pick a D due to the risk. The first round is not the time to take risks, but they just continue to do it. Outside of the safe and obvious picks of Burrow and Chase, it’s been mostly question marks. I don’t get it.


I agree. Maybe it will work out, but if it does, it will be pure luck. Why would you try to protect your franchise quarterback, who up to this point has gotten destroyed, with a guy who has trouble staying on the field? I don’t like the pic, but I do hope it works out, for everyone’s sake.


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[bucksfan2]

I agree. Maybe it will work out, but if it does, it will be pure luck. Why would you try to protect your franchise quarterback, who up to this point has gotten destroyed, with a guy who has trouble staying on the field? I don’t like the pic, but I do hope it works out, for everyone’s sake.


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Not sure its fair to conclude that Mimms has had trouble staying on the field. Here is how his development went:

Year 1: Reserve Tackle getting mop up duty. Pretty common with O-Linemen, especially ones coming from a small school.
Year 2: Played behind a 1st round draft pick. Saw reserve duty while starting in the CFP.
Year 3: Started at RT. Missed time due to an injury.

I guess I find it unfair to say that he has trouble staying on the field when he has had one season that was affected by injury.

I also wouldn't say having a first round draft pick work out is pure luck. Its like saying, yea you scouted and liked the guys raw abilities, liked his film when he was on the field, developed him at T during his rookie season, but its pure luck that it worked out.

[WVRed]

Not sure its fair to conclude that Mimms has had trouble staying on the field. Here is how his development went:

Year 1: Reserve Tackle getting mop up duty. Pretty common with O-Linemen, especially ones coming from a small school.
Year 2: Played behind a 1st round draft pick. Saw reserve duty while starting in the CFP.
Year 3: Started at RT. Missed time due to an injury.

I guess I find it unfair to say that he has trouble staying on the field when he has had one season that was affected by injury.

I also wouldn't say having a first round draft pick work out is pure luck. Its like saying, yea you scouted and liked the guys raw abilities, liked his film when he was on the field, developed him at T during his rookie season, but its pure luck that it worked out.I think most of the negative reaction by Bengals fans toward this pick is because of Sabans critique.

Newsflash: the national media has never been kind to Cincinnati. Some of the criticism has been warranted in the past but this isn't one of those times. Had the Rams made this pick one pick lower I doubt you have the criticism.

They took the last best OT (not counting Fautanu because he projects inside) in a fairly deep OT draft. Guyton and Morgan were in the next best tier. They signed Trent Brown in FA so they can take a year to develop Mims.

My question is, who would anyone here have taken who objects to the Mims pick? Byron Murphy was mine and he was off the board.



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[Kingspoint]

Nick Saban on Bengals draft pick Mims:

“In the SEC championship he was on the field for the first 15 snaps and then took himself out. You tell me what that says about him as a player”

That the NCAA is just a stepping stone to millions of dollars and to not destroy your draft stock in a meaningless college football game that doesn't pay you any money.

[Redhook]

If DT, Newton, is still on the board after a handful of more picks, at what point do you try and trade up? It'd be awesome if they could somehow pull that off and they have the picks to do it if they'd like.

[Sea Ray]

As Bengal fans we’ve seen this play out before

Both Cedric O and Carman were injured projects when we drafted them highly and it didn’t work out


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[RedTeamGo!]

That the NCAA is just a stepping stone to millions of dollars and to not destroy your draft stock in a meaningless college football game that doesn't pay you any money.

Players make all kinds of money now. But that is besides the point - who quits on their team during a championship game?

[LiferJim]

I think most of the negative reaction by Bengals fans toward this pick is because of Sabans critique.

Newsflash: the national media has never been kind to Cincinnati. Some of the criticism has been warranted in the past but this isn't one of those times. Had the Rams made this pick one pick lower I doubt you have the criticism.

They took the last best OT (not counting Fautanu because he projects inside) in a fairly deep OT draft. Guyton and Morgan were in the next best tier. They signed Trent Brown in FA so they can take a year to develop Mims.

My question is, who would anyone here have taken who objects to the Mims pick? Byron Murphy was mine and he was off the board.



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I would have taken Jared Verse or Chop Robinson. Then traded Trey for a proven offensive tackle. I know they signed Trent Brown, but I think depth is a good thing and we all know guys get hurt. They are going to need an edge guy to replace Treys 17.5 sacks if he gets traded. I don’t think that kind of guy is going to get here via a trade or in the later round draft pics.


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[KoryMac5]

I would have taken Jared Verse or Chop Robinson. Then traded Trey for a proven offensive tackle. I know they signed Trent Brown, but I think depth is a good thing and we all know guys get hurt. They are going to need an edge guy to replace Treys 17.5 sacks if he gets traded. I don’t think that kind of guy is going to get here via a trade or in the later round draft pics.


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I think they wanted Murphy, but he was gone. I do wonder though had Dallas Turner been there if they would have taken him.
Every Bengals fan knows Trey isn’t going anywhere. Chop and Verse don’t have the upside Miss does.

[Rdirtypirates]

Players make all kinds of money now. But that is besides the point - who quits on their team during a championship game?

Probably a guy who reinjured his ankle and couldn’t go back in.

[Tony Cloninger]

Yes I would like some context too here. He just quit ? Doubtful. He got hurt again and could not play effectively on it. More likely.

If the Bengals develop him up to his capabilities and he’s not injured prone. It will not be luck. It will be let’s give them credit for developing the player. If Mims was gone I think they would have pick the one Pittsburgh picked or the CB Philadelphia picked.

[texasdave]

Amarius Mims exited the SEC Championship game between Georgia and Alabama due to a right ankle injury. He left the game during the first quarter. Mims had previously missed six games earlier in the season due to an ankle injury that required tightrope surgery. Despite the setback, he returned to the sideline after being in the locker room and was spotted riding the exercise bike

[Kingspoint]

As Bengal fans we’ve seen this play out before

Both Cedric O and Carman were injured projects when we drafted them highly and it didn’t work out


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Cedric O was never a successful LT, nor a quality pass-blocker in college. He was poorly scouted. Add to that his injury issues and he was a terrible selection. His floor was bust. Mims' floor is still a 10-year career in the NFL and when he plays, a very good player.

[Ohayou]

Eagles get Mitchell AND DeJean. Crazy.

[Sea Ray]

Players make all kinds of money now. But that is besides the point - who quits on their team during a championship game?

He didn’t just quit. He was hurt. His ankle was bothering him big time


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[Kingspoint]

So many good players left for the Bengals.

I'm guessing Jenkins at this time.

[Ohayou]

Jenkins is who I expected. Good pick.

[WrongVerb]

So many good players left for the Bengals.

I'm guessing Jenkins at this time.

Good guess.

I'm very pleased with the pick. Great athlete and very good player.

[Redhook]

Solid pick and nice to see they addressed the trenches. I expect a WR/CB with the next 2 picks with a chance a TE is selected before those positions are addressed.

[Redhook]

As Bengal fans we’ve seen this play out before

Both Cedric O and Carman were injured projects when we drafted them highly and it didn’t work out


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Yes, we have. Cedric and Carman were awful picks and rightfully criticized at the time. Their careers weren't surprising. Billy Price was another terrible injured pick (pec injury from the combine). So, their last 3 high OL picks were all injured and were all absolutely terrible picks. Let's hope and pray it's different this time, but it doesn't make sense to draft someone who is injured.

[Boss-Hog]

Unless I'm missing something, Mims is not injured. He hurt his hamstring in the offseason, but if he's not perfectly fine right now, he certainly will be by the start of training camp. I've not heard anything that indicates the ankle injury is still an issue, either.

[Sea Ray]

Unless I'm missing something, Mims is not injured. He hurt his hamstring in the offseason, but if he's not perfectly fine right now, he certainly will be by the start of training camp. I've not heard anything that indicates the ankle injury is still an issue, either.

With all his interviews I’m amazed no one asked him or Bengal coaches if he’s 100% healthy right now. We have such a horrible media in Cincinnati


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[KoryMac5]

Unless I'm missing something, Mims is not injured. He hurt his hamstring in the offseason, but if he's not perfectly fine right now, he certainly will be by the start of training camp. I've not heard anything that indicates the ankle injury is still an issue, either.

He had same surgery Bowers had which was tightrope ankle surgery after a high sprain it speeds up the recovery time. He ended up hurting the hamstring running his 40 at the combine. He’s told Jordan Reid of ESPN he is 100 percent healthy.

[Kingspoint]

Unless I'm missing something, Mims is not injured. He hurt his hamstring in the offseason, but if he's not perfectly fine right now, he certainly will be by the start of training camp. I've not heard anything that indicates the ankle injury is still an issue, either.

He had ballerina toe surgery or something like that.

He is a large human being. It might take a little longer to recover.

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HOUSH!

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If Housh likes him, I like him.

[LiferJim]

Not sure its fair to conclude that Mimms has had trouble staying on the field. Here is how his development went:

Year 1: Reserve Tackle getting mop up duty. Pretty common with O-Linemen, especially ones coming from a small school.
Year 2: Played behind a 1st round draft pick. Saw reserve duty while starting in the CFP.
Year 3: Started at RT. Missed time due to an injury.

I guess I find it unfair to say that he has trouble staying on the field when he has had one season that was affected by injury.

I also wouldn't say having a first round draft pick work out is pure luck. Its like saying, yea you scouted and liked the guys raw abilities, liked his film when he was on the field, developed him at T during his rookie season, but its pure luck that it worked out.


Well he didn’t play much until his third year and missed time with an injury. He also hurt his hamstring running at the combine. I’m just saying I myself would have preferred a player who appeared to be more of a sure thing. I realize the are no “sure things”, but there are players who are a lot less risky on paper.

As far as luck, I often hear when a player doesn’t pan out for injuries or other reasons, that the Bengals had bad luck. If that’s the case, then when a risky player does pan out, they had some good luck.

I do like that the defensive line was addressed in rounds two and three, plus the wide receiver from Bama. That said, I wish we could have gotten a decent tight end, though I know pickings were slim.


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[KoryMac5]

Well he didn’t play much until his third year and missed time with an injury. He also hurt his hamstring running at the combine. I’m just saying I myself would have preferred a player who appeared to be more of a sure thing. I realize the are no “sure things”, but there are players who are a lot less risky on paper.

As far as luck, I often hear when a player doesn’t pan out for injuries or other reasons, that the Bengals had bad luck. If that’s the case, then when a risky player does pan out, they had some good luck.

I do like that the defensive line was addressed in rounds two and three, plus the wide receiver from Bama. That said, I wish we could have gotten a decent tight end, though I know pickings were slim.


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Without the injuries the Bengals would have never even got a look at him at 18...the other Tackles still on the board all had various warts and question marks as well. Take the guy with high upside and let him learn from Trent and Zeus.

[LiferJim]

Without the injuries the Bengals would have never even got a look at him at 18...the other Tackles still on the board all had various warts and question marks as well. Take the guy with high upside and let him learn from Trent and Zeus.

Given our recent history with these types of offensive linemen pics, it’s easy to see why I’m skeptical. We all know the definition of insanity. That said, my fingers are crossed that this one works out differently.


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[Ohayou]

I'm guessing Erick All or Cade Stover here in the 4th.

[UKFlounder]

Erick All. Hope he can stay healthy. Seems like a risky pick, but those sometimes work

[texasdave]

2024 NFL Draft best name - Ruke Orhorhoro.

[RedTeamGo!]

2024 NFL Draft best name - Ruke Orhorhoro.

I believe there was a guy drafted named Storm Duck

[Sea Ray]

Overall im very pleased with the outcome of the draft

1 (23) - WR Brian Thomas - LSU
2 (48) - DT Maason Smith - LSU
3 (96) - CB Jarrian James - FSU
4 (114) - OT Javon Foster - Missouri
4 (116) - DT Jordan Jefferson - LSU
5 (153) - CB Deantre Price - Mississippi
5 (167) - RB Keilan Robinson - Texas
6 (212) - K Cam Little - Arkansas
7 (236) - DE Myles Cole - Texas Tech

Thomas replaces Ridley and has the skill set to potentially be a #1 eventually.
Taking care of the trenches with 3 of the next 4 picks.
Clearly leaning on the mind of new ILB coach Matt House who was the DC at LSU for the past 2 years.
Taking 2 different CBs in the middle rounds. Corner is a position that is tough to draft, I like the idea of hitting on one later in the draft as compared to taking one at the top of your draft and they bust.
Getting a kicker. Very very happy with that pick.
Getting 3 additional picks to move from #17 to #23 and still getting what we wanted in the 1st round. From that deal we got a 5th (#167) and took RB Keilan Robinson, plus a 2025 3rd and 2025 4th round pick.

Grade - A

Very generous grade here. Mel Kiper gave them a B-

This composite grade chart is interesting. It shows 20 different gurus and their grades. It shows the Steelers as the best in this draft. Two gave the Jags an A-. The other 18 gave them a worse grade

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[Kingspoint]

2024 NFL Draft best name - Ruke Orhorhoro.

Rocky Lombardi is better.

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Very generous grade here. Mel Kiper gave them a B-

This composite grade chart is interesting. It shows 20 different gurus and their grades. It shows the Steelers as the best in this draft. Two gave the Jags an A-. The other 18 gave them a worse grade

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Year after year, the Eagles not only draft the players I want the Bengals to take, but they trade for the players I want the Bengals to trade for.

I gave the Bengals a "B" yesterday, with both the highest ceiling and the lowest floor.

[Kingspoint]

April 29th, 2024 at 12:29pm CST by Adam La Rose

The Eagles were busy on the trade front during this year’s draft, executing eight pick swaps over three days. That figure ties the record for the most in a single year since the event took on its current seven-round format. Philadelphia’s efforts with respect to trades were notably aimed at acquiring extra draft capital in 2025. When speaking about that strategy, general manager Howie Roseman noted that the relatively shallow pool of prospects in this year’s class was a key factor. Added eligibility due to the pandemic as well as NIL deals led to just 58 underclassmen declaring for the 2024 draft.

That figure could change next year, though, something the Eagles are anticipating given their actions over the weekend. Philadelphia added three 2025 selections – a third-rounder from the Dolphins, a fourth-rounder from the Lions and a fifth-rounder from the Texans – through pick swaps. The team will also receive a second- or third-round selection next year through the Haason Reddick trade. As Roseman noted, the Eagles will also have a smaller UDFA class than usual in 2024. “I think a big part of that is because we made a conscious decision after the season to try to get guys from team’s practice squads where we had some tape to watch,” Roseman said (via PHLY’s Zach Berman). “We felt like that was just for us kind of a unique opportunity that we wanted to try and take advantage of based on this class and knowing that this was a different class, and so it wouldn’t have a ton of the same opportunities in the undrafted market that maybe you’ll get next year…. I think it will be back to normal next year.”

https://www.profootballrumors.com/2024/04/eagles-gm-howie-roseman-addresses-2024-draft-strategy

[Rojo Rijo]

Very generous grade here. Mel Kiper gave them a B-

This composite grade chart is interesting. It shows 20 different gurus and their grades. It shows the Steelers as the best in this draft. Two gave the Jags an A-. The other 18 gave them a worse grade

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The ones who didnt like the Jags draft are typically critical of the 3rd - 5th picks. Most agree trading back and getting 3 additional picks while still getting Thomas was a great move and most like the selection of Smith as a high upside pick. As for picks 3rd - 5th rounds I am very pleased with the positional selections. How well those guys fare is anyones guess but the Jags addressed the CB position by adding 2 young CBs to the depth chart, addressed the trenches on both sides with OT and DTs from SEC programs then added a player who will hopefully at some point step into the returner role Jamal Agnew held and maybe even as a change of pace/3rd down option eventually.

[Kingspoint]

Too many teams are given A's and B's.

Should be graded on a curve. There should be as many F's as A's, D's and B's and C's should be the most common grade,...because that's what C stands for,...Common.

[Kingspoint]

Most teams, as far as I'm concerned always get "F's" and "D's". The Eagles get an "A", because they worked the draft, didn't let the draft work them, while they garnered 3 additional picks for next year's draft, which will be a better draft. Maybe four teams get a "B", about ten teams get a "C".

Most teams let the draft play them instead of working the draft. They settle for what happens to be there when it happens to be their pick for most of the rounds. Very little attempt is made to maximize the 7 assets of picks that are given, the players on their own team that fits the needs of other teams and making a trade to secure picks now or later, and to specifically target certain players because they did twice as much research as they actually did.

I believe 90% of the teams have never taken the NFL draft and Free Agency seriously for the value that they have. There is so much stone-age thinking. Great to see G.M.'s like Lynch and Belichick work trades and draft, along with Howie Roseman, the best there is.

The Bengals' have made the biggest improvement over the last five years, mainly because Mike Brown's cheapness made it impossible for them to compete.

[Tony Cloninger]

90% have never taken the Draft and FA seriously? You might not take one or the other seriously but how do you build a team by taking neither seriously? I know the Bengals never took FA seriously and Detroit when Millen was GM didn’t know what the drafting was about. 90 percent means only 3 teams know what they are doing.

[Kingspoint]

90% have never taken the Draft and FA seriously? You might not take one or the other seriously but how do you build a team by taking neither seriously? I know the Bengals never took FA seriously and Detroit when Millen was GM didn’t know what the drafting was about. 90 percent means only 3 teams know what they are doing.

The proof is in the spending. The tiny amount of money they spend on the draft process shows how little they seriously consider it's importance. They'll waste more money on an average signing bonus than they'll spend for the entirely yearly budget regarding the draft. They've never embraced analytics until it was something that was discovered by non-NFL people. They don't try to invent better ways to judge talent. They are so archaic in their analyses of players that they always tend to follow one team's methods like sheep, and slowly adapt to that, too.

NFL executives are Neanderthals when it comes to evaluating talent and respecting what a draft offers. They continually let the draft play them than work the draft.