2024 College Basketball Thread

[WVRed]

UConn in talks to join the Allstate Big 12:

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/40968712/uconn-big-12-early-talks-potential-membership

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[Assembly Hall]

UConn in talks to join the Allstate Big 12:

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/40968712/uconn-big-12-early-talks-potential-membership

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Marquette next? lol

[Boston Red]

Marquette could start football today and have about as good a chance of being competitive in the Big XII by 2031 as UConn.

The deal is pretty funny, though. I get why UConn thinks it's necessary, but what in the world will college football and conferences even look like by 2031? Seems likely to me things will be WAY different by 2031.

[KronoRed]

I wonder why UCONN and UMASS even have FBS football teams.

[Boston Red]

Difficult as it may be to believe, UConn was actually pretty good for a while. Even played in the 2011 Fiesta Bowl.

UMass? Good question. They were a decent I-AA program. They'd be much better off going back to that.

[Sea Ray]

UConn in talks to join the Allstate Big 12:

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/40968712/uconn-big-12-early-talks-potential-membership

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Good thing you told us it was the Allstate Big 12. I for one will only refer to it as the Big 12

[WVRed]

Good thing you told us it was the Allstate Big 12. I for one will only refer to it as the Big 12I called them the Texas Ten until Texas and Oklahoma left.

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[WVRed]

What is going on in Memphis?

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/41121041/memphis-basketball-fires-4-members-penny-hardaway-coaching-staff

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[Sea Ray]

What is going on in Memphis?

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/41121041/memphis-basketball-fires-4-members-penny-hardaway-coaching-staff

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Penny's got issues

[Boston Red]

UConn and Big XII discussions have been "paused".

[WVRed]

Tony Bennett announcing his retirement effective immediately.

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[cumberlandreds]

Tony Bennett announcing his retirement effective immediately.

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Hope he is OK. Surprising right at the start of a new season.

[Ky Fried Redleg]

Tony Bennett announcing his retirement effective immediately.

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Hopefully, he's just steppin' out with his baby...

[WVRed]

Hope he is OK. Surprising right at the start of a new season.Basically the state of the game.

I'm sorry but I really don't feel too sorry for coaches right now.

Is college sports broken with NIL and the transfer portal? Yes. But coaches exploited it long before players got the opportunity to do so.

There are younger coaches waiting for an opportunity. If a Tony Bennett, Dabo Swinney, whoever wants to step aside let one of the younger coaches take over.

I do see why Bennett did wait this long though. He wanted one of his assistants to get a chance at the job plus with the start of the season in two weeks it's going to be harder for players to transfer out.

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[cumberlandreds]

Basically the state of the game.

I'm sorry but I really don't feel too sorry for coaches right now.

Is college sports broken with NIL and the transfer portal? Yes. But coaches exploited it long before players got the opportunity to do so.

There are younger coaches waiting for an opportunity. If a Tony Bennett, Dabo Swinney, whoever wants to step aside let one of the younger coaches take over.

I do see why Bennett did wait this long though. He wanted one of his assistants to get a chance at the job plus with the start of the season in two weeks it's going to be harder for players to transfer out.

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Yea I read that Vitale said it was the state of college sports. I can't blame the older ones for getting out. Just too much has changed and when you have re-recruit your entire team every year it has to be very wearing.

[Slyder]

I will not get excited after a scrimmage against a d2 school...I will not get excited after a scrimmage against a d2 school...I will not get excited after a scrimmage against a d2 school...I will not get excited after a scrimmage against a d2 school...

[Boston Red]

I will not get excited after a scrimmage against a d2 school...I will not get excited after a scrimmage against a d2 school...I will not get excited after a scrimmage against a d2 school...I will not get excited after a scrimmage against a d2 school...

Louisville fans are the exception to this rule, but for this year only. They earned that exception by losing to D2 schools two years in a row in exhibition games.

[Boston Red]

USF's coach Abdur-Rahim died today at 43. So sad. Dude was an absolute star as a coach.

[texasdave]

USF's coach Abdur-Rahim died today at 43. So sad. Dude was an absolute star as a coach.

RIP.

Side note:
His brother Shareef played 13 years in the NBA and is the current president of the NBA G League.

[Sea Ray]

Tennessee and IU played an exhibition game yesterday

https://www.knoxnews.com/picture-gallery/sports/college/university-of-tennessee/mens-basketball/2024/10/27/college-basketball-tennessee-vs-indiana/75881363007/

I haven't followed Volunteer basketball in the offseason but I gotta believe it'll be a down year after all the talent they lost since last season. I think they're over ranked to begin the year

[Boston Red]

Tennessee and IU played an exhibition game yesterday

https://www.knoxnews.com/picture-gallery/sports/college/university-of-tennessee/mens-basketball/2024/10/27/college-basketball-tennessee-vs-indiana/75881363007/

I haven't followed Volunteer basketball in the offseason but I gotta believe it'll be a down year after all the talent they lost since last season. I think they're over ranked to begin the year

Who won? This link is just to the photos (Allan Houston looks like he could suit up right now and go out and dominate, by the way).

[texasdave]

Who won? This link is just to the photos (Allan Houston looks like he could suit up right now and go out and dominate, by the way).

IU in a close contest.

[Sea Ray]

IU in a close contest.

Yep, 66-62

[Assembly Hall]

Who won? This link is just to the photos (Allan Houston looks like he could suit up right now and go out and dominate, by the way).

https://www.insidethehall.com/2024/10/28/five-takeaways-from-indianas-exhibition-win-at-tennessee/

[SunDeck]

Tennessee and IU played an exhibition game yesterday

https://www.knoxnews.com/picture-gallery/sports/college/university-of-tennessee/mens-basketball/2024/10/27/college-basketball-tennessee-vs-indiana/75881363007/

I haven't followed Volunteer basketball in the offseason but I gotta believe it'll be a down year after all the talent they lost since last season. I think they're over ranked to begin the yearIt's equally difficult to predict what IU will be like this year. Woodson may have scored the best portal haul in the Big Ten with Ballo, but with the way basketball is played now, it remains to be seen whether they will reverse the terrible perimeter shooting game enough to be a complete team. And therein lies the big question mark about Woodson, who has established himself as a very good coach for big men playing with their backs to the basket and whether he can focus on generating guard points.

[Assembly Hall]

It's equally difficult to predict what IU will be like this year. Woodson may have scored the best portal haul in the Big Ten with Ballo, but with the way basketball is played now, it remains to be seen whether they will reverse the terrible perimeter shooting game enough to be a complete team. And therein lies the big question mark about Woodson, who has established himself as a very good coach for big men playing with their backs to the basket and whether he can focus on generating guard points.

We ain't got time to talk IU basketball. It is football season!

[Boston Red]

Excited that basketball season starts Monday. It will be a good day to have a distraction!

[SunDeck]

We ain't got time to talk IU basketball. It is football season!Yeah, the IU sports world is upside down right now.

[Boston Red]

Tennessee may be walking into a buzzsaw Saturday. Louisville's probably not going to be all that good this year, but they're plenty competent, and after the past few seasons the fans are desperate for a fun environment and a win against a team like Tennessee. Could be a pretty wild college basketball scene for November 9th.

[RedTeamGo!]

Buckeyes looked good last night. Not sure if the buckeyes were underrated or Texas was overrated, though.

[Sea Ray]

Tennessee may be walking into a buzzsaw Saturday. Louisville's probably not going to be all that good this year, but they're plenty competent, and after the past few seasons the fans are desperate for a fun environment and a win against a team like Tennessee. Could be a pretty wild college basketball scene for November 9th.

Tennessee is not prepared for a "real" game right now. This is a year where they should have scheduled a month of patsies. They haven't learned Barnes' concepts yet and I'm not even sure if they have much talent. In other words, I'm not sure if they're any good. The only way they come away with a win in this game is if Louisville isn't very good either

[Redsfaithful]

Buckeyes looked good last night. Not sure if the buckeyes were underrated or Texas was overrated, though.

Dev Royal is a lot of fun, I'm hoping Diebler can keep his momentum from the end of season going. They looked great last night and I figure even if Texas is overrated it's still Texas.

[westofyou]

We ain't got time to talk IU basketball. It is football season!

Best year since Tim Couch right?

Gonna whoop on my UM team too I bet.... so it goes!

I'm actually ready for some College basketball, the best thing about it is there are so many teams that there is practically a game on every night and when it is cold and dark that provides some solence

[Boston Red]

Best year since Tim Couch right?


Tim Couch? Wrong basketball-focused athletics program.

Anthony Thompson was IU's Tim Couch (but a running back intstead of a QB).

[westofyou]

Tim Couch? Wrong basketball-focused athletics program.

Anthony Thompson was IU's Tim Couch (but a running back intstead of a QB).

Same neighborhood, wrong house

[RedTeamGo!]

Dev Royal is a lot of fun, I'm hoping Diebler can keep his momentum from the end of season going. They looked great last night and I figure even if Texas is overrated it's still Texas.

Yep, I like Royal. He just needs to let it go when the other team gets a defensive rebound. He picks up a lot of stupid fouls by reaching in after the other team gets a clean def board. He did it a lot last year and he did it monday night once. There was a 2nd time where he almost did it and he pulled his hand back. He is a good scorer, though.

I am really excited about Mobley. he played in a summer league with NBA and college players and was shooting the lights out. He has the potential to be a poor man's Steph Curry. If he is as good of a shooter as people thinks he can be and is consistent they are legit threats to win the Big Ten.

We shall see, though, I am concerned about rebounding and defense.

[dabvu2498]

Wild day in the SEC yesterday…

Florida basketball coach Todd Golden faces Title IX investigation for sexual harassment: report

https://apnews.com/article/florida-todd-golden-title-ix-allegations-6e17bdf666045aaefaece806135e4658

Flight carrying No. 11 Auburn basketball team grounded after scuffle between players

https://apnews.com/article/auburn-basketball-flight-grounded-285f5b3769b0473b47ba35e97c18db64#

[Boston Red]

Turns out Kelsey's Louisville boys aren't ready for prime time after all. Nice win for your Tennessee boys, Sea Ray.

[Sea Ray]

Turns out Kelsey's Louisville boys aren't ready for prime time after all. Nice win for your Tennessee boys, Sea Ray.

I was busy and couldn’t watch any of it. Think Louisville is any better this year than last? In other words was this a good win or not? I was floored to see that it was a 20 point win


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[Boston Red]

I was busy and couldn’t watch any of it. Think Louisville is any better this year than last? In other words was this a good win or not? I was floored to see that it was a 20 point win


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I only saw the very beginning, and Louisville was having a really tough time with Tennessee's defensive pressure. I suspect Louisville will be light years better than last year, but maybe only about .500. I think it's a nice road win for the Vols, but probably not earth shattering.

[Ky Fried Redleg]

Tennessee may be walking into a buzzsaw Saturday. Louisville's probably not going to be all that good this year, but they're plenty competent, and after the past few seasons the fans are desperate for a fun environment and a win against a team like Tennessee. Could be a pretty wild college basketball scene for November 9th.

Take away Uof L's three point shot, and they seem to have little else they can really hurt you with.

[WVRed]

Didn't see it but Baylor pretty much ran high low ball screens the entire second half and Arkansas couldn't stop it.

Sounds familiar...

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[RedTeamGo!]

I just arrived in Louisville this afternoon for two nights and looked up their schedule and they of course played on Saturday and then Tuesday lol

[Boston Red]

Oh man, you JUST missed the big Battle for Louisville. It really wasn't a thing until Payne managed to lose to Bellarmine one year and barely sneak by them the next.

I suspect this year's "Battle" will be the one-sided affair you'd expect in a matchup between these two.

[RedTeamGo!]

It’s so absurd that I live in Ohio and can’t watch Ohio State play because they are only on the SEC Network

[Sea Ray]

It’s so absurd that I live in Ohio and can’t watch Ohio State play because they are only on the SEC Network

SEC Network is very available in Ohio and is a must. I couldn't live without it

[Playadlc]

Oops. Wrong spot.

[Assembly Hall]

Tidbits on IU's win over South Carolina...

https://www.insidethehall.com/2024/11/17/five-takeaways-from-indianas-win-against-south-carolina/

[Mutaman]

is it possible that Marquette lost Kolek and Oso. didn't bring in a transfer, and still might be a better team?

[KoryMac5]

Chris Holtmann may have gotten shown the door at OSU but he has been the perfect fit for Depaul. Unreal how bad that program was to the point where you release every play on the roster to start all over.

https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/biggest-coaching-gamble-in-college-basketball-why-chris-holtmann-decided-to-take-a-chance-on-lowly-depaul/

[Boston Red]

Holtmann brought in a local Cincinnati-area kid to be a gunner off the bench for the Blue Demons. Jacob Meyer, who scored approximately a million points in his career at Covington Holy Cross, transferred from Coastal Carolina to DePaul to play for Holtmann. He's averaging over 15 points a game and shooting over 40% from three point range so far for DePaul. He averaged 15.7 points and shot 40.2% from three for the Chanticleers last year as a true freshman.

[Assembly Hall]

Chris Holtmann may have gotten shown the door at OSU but he has been the perfect fit for Depaul. Unreal how bad that program was to the point where you release every play on the roster to start all over.

https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/biggest-coaching-gamble-in-college-basketball-why-chris-holtmann-decided-to-take-a-chance-on-lowly-depaul/

I remember when DePaul vs. Notre Dame was must see TV....

[RedTeamGo!]

Holtmann brought in a local Cincinnati-area kid to be a gunner off the bench for the Blue Demons. Jacob Meyer, who scored approximately a million points in his career at Covington Holy Cross, transferred from Coastal Carolina to DePaul to play for Holtmann. He's averaging over 15 points a game and shooting over 40% from three point range so far for DePaul. He averaged 15.7 points and shot 40.2% from three for the Chanticleers last year as a true freshman.

OSU started out like 11-2 last year as well, then he lost like 10 games in a row.

He’s an awful coach.

[Boston Red]

He won 4 NCAA Tournament games at Butler in three years. He can coach.

And even if he forgot during his time in Columbus, DePaul won 3 games all last year, so he's still a huge upgrade over whatever the hell they had going on there before.

[Revering4Blue]

is it possible that Marquette lost Kolek and Oso. didn't bring in a transfer, and still might be a better team?

Yes.

From what I’ve seen - which hasn’t amounted to a lot of game time and not because I feel they aren’t worth watching, my work schedule hasn’t allowed for it - they have more poise and seem to be a more cohesive unit than last season.

I have also noticed certain players, including their current leading scorer, have emerged as better all around players, not just scorers.


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[Assembly Hall]

My Hoosiers playing Woody ball tonight.

[WVRed]

Just read Aaron Bradshaw is in hot water at Ohio State and the rumor is point shaving.

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[dubc47834]

Just read Aaron Bradshaw is in hot water at Ohio State and the rumor is point shaving.

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Haven't found if this is from his time at OSU, or UK

[RedTeamGo!]

Haven't found if this is from his time at OSU, or UK

The rumors are it is from his time with UK

[redsfan39]

UConn goes down in OT to Memphis in Maui.

[RedTeamGo!]

Hurley is such a tool

[Boston Red]

After a pretty brutal season last year, seems the area teams are back, so there should be a lot of interest in college basketball this year:

UC is ranked in the top 15 depending on the rankings you use. Xavier is undefeated with a couple of decent wins and back in the top 25 after a terrible year last year. Kentucky beat Duke, and most Kentucky fans seem to be thrilled to be exiting the malaise of the late Calipari years. Louisville has gone from historically awful to at least mediocre and possibly even kind of good. Indiana is back in the top 15 after missing the post-season last year. I'm sure Dayton fans are disappointed with the way last night ended, but they were able to get a 21 point lead against UNC in Maui, so they probably have a team capable of owning the A-10 this year.

Looking forward to March Madness here this year instead of March Indifference!

[RedTeamGo!]

My Flyers were up on UNC at half by 18 points and lost. ughhhhh

[WVRed]

The rumors are it is from his time with UKWouldn't surprise me.

Also wouldn't surprise me if DJ Wagner was part of it. Both are from the same area and I think there were more players involved than just Bradshaw but it's all speculation.

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[RedTeamGo!]

Sounds like it isn't point shaving at all.

Domestic issue

[Boston Red]

Cheers to Danny Hurley for teaching the refs what is NOT an over the back foul. They clearly learned the lesson, and I'm sure he's well pleased.

[Boston Red]

The Maui Invitational can be brutal. Dayton has played nip and tuck games with UNC and Iowa State the last two days, and all they have to show for it is two losses and a date in the 7th place game with #2 and two time defending national champions UConn.

Well, that and a delightful Thanksgiving week in Kaanapali.

[Boston Red]

Didn't see Louisville murdering IU coming.

[texasdave]

WVU takes down #3 Gonzaga 86-78 in overtime.

[Slyder]

WVU takes down #3 Gonzaga 86-78 in overtime.

I will now proceed to fanboy about this team. This team reminds me of the Beilien teams!

[westofyou]

I'm a UM fan, so I am biased.. but Dusty May is a game changer for any Basketball team.

[RedTeamGo!]

Flyers!

[Kingspoint]

Hurley is such a tool

I love Hurley.

[goreds2]

College Basketball Thanksgiving Day schedule

Noon — Battle 4 Atlantis: Semifinal, ESPN

Noon — ESPN Events Invitational: Wichita St. vs. Minnesota, ESPN2

[Boston Red]

Pat Kelsey is getting a raise.

[Sea Ray]

SEC is rolling in their challenge with the ACC. Might sweep all ten games tonight


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[RedTeamGo!]

SEC is rolling in their challenge with the ACC. Might sweep all ten games tonight


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Clemson played a great game against UK to avoid the sweep

[Sea Ray]

Clemson played a great game against UK to avoid the sweep

It never bothers me when Kentucky loses


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[RiverRat13]

The ACC has been terrible for a few years. I don't think there are many schools outside of Duke that are going to be big NIL players, either, so I don't see it improving much.

[medford]

Flyers!

Pleasantly surprised with the Flyers this year. Wasn't expecting much with the departure of Brea to UK and DaRon to the NBA. The UNC and ISU blown leads were heart breaking, but always fun to blast a Hurley coached team, that dude always annoyed me when he was at Rhody.

I thought they looked fatigued/dissinterested last night when falling behind by 10, just didn't seem like their head was in the game. I guess that is to be expected after 3 straight games in paradise vs Top 15 squads, once they "kicked it in" they left little doubt about the outcome. Hopefully the mailaize is behind them this weekend, then a week off (with exams mixed in) to get ready for Marquette and then UC a few games later. Really need to win one of those 2 games to help build up the resume. Shooting has been better than expected, defense has been better than expected. It has taken a few games for Mali and Santos to shake off the rust of surgery, but both are playing pretty darn well. I wish Posh could shot, but love his defense, passing and drive to the hoop. Zed has been better than expected, though he would struggle vs legit Power 5 centers. The A-10 is a great landing spot for his game. They might have something in the French kid. He needs to pack on some muscle/weight but there is a ton to love about his skill set.

Cheeks is turning into a stud.

[Boston Red]

So the SEC goes 14-2 against the ACC, and their only two losses are their best two teams (so far). Crazy game.

Big East with a surprising 4-2 edge on the Big XII so far. All the home teams have won.

[Sea Ray]

So the SEC goes 14-2 against the ACC, and their only two losses are their best two teams (so far). Crazy game.

Big East with a surprising 4-2 edge on the Big XII so far. All the home teams have won.

Two best teams? Tennessee will likely be #1 in the nation next week. No shame in losing at Clemson and Duke

Ohio State goes to the half down 50-17? What’s up with that?


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[Boston Red]

Ah yes, forgot about the Vols. But the 2 SEC losses came from top 5 teams.

The ACC has issues. They really should be staring down about 3 NCAA Tournament bids this year.

[Sea Ray]

Ah yes, forgot about the Vols. But the 2 SEC losses came from top 5 teams.

The ACC has issues. They really should be staring down about 3 NCAA Tournament bids this year.

All homerism aside, I don't know who's the 2 best teams and it could end up being Kentucky and Auburn, but Tennessee is looking great so far. 14-2 is about as much of a blowout as you'll ever see in these challenges. Top to bottom the SEC is looking awfully tough this year. As good as the SEC has been in football, that might be the conference's 3rd best sport this year, behind baseball and basketball.

[RedTeamGo!]

Ohio State goes to the half down 50-17? What’s up with that?




ice cold from 3 and bad on defense. Maryland was playing very well in first half as well.

Long story short: looking like OSU made a mistake promoting one of Hotlmann's assts and are on the verge of being completely irrelevant in college basketball with no hope in sight.

[dubc47834]

ice cold from 3 and bad on defense. Maryland was playing very well in first half as well.

Long story short: looking like OSU made a mistake promoting one of Hotlmann's assts and are on the verge of being completely irrelevant in college basketball with no hope in sight.

Not to highjack this thread, but this is a huge reason why OSU football needs to make sure that Ryan Day isn't the guy they need. One bad higher and it sets your program back years/decades. IU basketball is a huge example of this.

[RedTeamGo!]

Not to highjack this thread, but this is a huge reason why OSU football needs to make sure that Ryan Day isn't the guy they need. One bad higher and it sets your program back years/decades. IU basketball is a huge example of this.

For sure, but Ohio State football is a completely different animal than OSU basketball. Ohio State football could hire me to be the head coach and they would still win 8 games minimum. The talent they attract, money, facilities, resources, fact they usually play 1 good OOC team and 2-3 terrible ones, fact the bottom half of the Big Ten is absolute trash, etc makes it next to impossible for OSU to lose more than 2-4 games a year.

[Boston Red]

For sure, but Ohio State football is a completely different animal than OSU basketball. Ohio State football could hire me to be the head coach and they would still win 8 games minimum. The talent they attract, money, facilities, resources, fact they usually play 1 good OOC team and 2-3 terrible ones, fact the bottom half of the Big Ten is absolute trash, etc makes it next to impossible for OSU to lose more than 2-4 games a year.

I mean, Michigan is in a pretty similar circumstance and just lost 5.

[RedTeamGo!]

I mean, Michigan is in a pretty similar circumstance and just lost 5.

Eh, not really - they didn't have the talent depth OSU always does and graduated literally 40 players, and they just turned on the money cannons moving forward.

That was a pretty unique circumstance. Michigan didn't have a QB. They were unable to sign one in the portal because they played late into the postseason when they won the natty.

If Michigan had even a solid QB this year they would likely be a playoff team.

[Assembly Hall]

boiler up. Evidently Penn St. got a good coach.

[dubc47834]

Eh, not really - they didn't have the talent depth OSU always does and graduated literally 40 players, and they just turned on the money cannons moving forward.

That was a pretty unique circumstance. Michigan didn't have a QB. They were unable to sign one in the portal because they played late into the postseason when they won the natty.

If Michigan had even a solid QB this year they would likely be a playoff team.

It only takes a couple recruiting seasons to miss out on top tier QB's with a bad coach that is a bad recruiter to end up like Michigan football before the Harbaugh hire, or IU basketball after Kelvin Sampson.

[RedTeamGo!]

It only takes a couple recruiting seasons to miss out on top tier QB's with a bad coach that is a bad recruiter to end up like Michigan football before the Harbaugh hire, or IU basketball after Kelvin Sampson.

I am sorry and I know it sounds arrogant but I truly don't think you can compare OSU football to pretty much anything in college sports, especially college basketball programs.

Michigan before harbaugh hire was a completely different planet compared to the current landscape in college football. Especially with revenue sharing right around the corner. OSU is always going to have elite talent.

OSU had a couple recruiting classes in a row where they failed to get a good QB and the result was 11-1 and 10-2 regular seasons in 23 and 24.

[westofyou]

I am sorry and I know it sounds arrogant but I truly don't think you can compare OSU football to pretty much anything in college sports, especially college basketball programs.

Michigan before harbaugh hire was a completely different planet compared to the current landscape in college football. Especially with revenue sharing right around the corner. OSU is always going to have elite talent.

OSU had a couple recruiting classes in a row where they failed to get a good QB and the result was 11-1 and 10-2 regular seasons in 23 and 24.

You're right

It does sound arrogant

[RedTeamGo!]

You're right

It does sound arrogant

I know, but it is the truth. 3-4 losses in a season is the absolute worst case scenario for OSU football.

Since 2000, the following are the seasons OSU has lost more than 4 games:

2001 (Tressel's first season) 7-5
2011: (Fickel's interem season after Tressel left due to Tattoo-gate) 6-7

end of list.

Since 2011 they have not lost more than 2 games in any season.

[westofyou]

I know, but it is the truth. 3-4 losses in a season is the absolute worst case scenario for OSU football.

Since 2000, the following are the seasons OSU has lost more than 4 games:

2001 (Tressel's first season)
2011: (Fickel's interem season after Tressel left due to Tattoo-gate)

end of list.

Since 2011 they have not lost more than 2 games in any season.

Have you perchance read "Seasons of Saturday's" (https://michaelweinreb.com/season-of-saturdays/) ?

https://www.cleveland.com/books/2014/08/season_of_saturdays_--_a_fasci.html

Really good look at college football hubris... includes a classic PSU fan screed against UofM "Exceptionalism"

Short review... everything dies eventually

[RedTeamGo!]

Have you perchance read "Seasons of Saturday's" (https://michaelweinreb.com/season-of-saturdays/) ?

https://www.cleveland.com/books/2014/08/season_of_saturdays_--_a_fasci.html

Really good look at college football hubris... includes a classic PSU fan screed against UofM "Exceptionalism"

Short review... everything dies eventually

Stuff that happened 40 years ago really doesn't have any effect on what happens in current college football, though

but that is besides the point, this all started because someone said Ryan Day shouldn't be fired because OSU is one bad hire away from being a 6-6 team.

That is simply not the case, don't know what else to say. Any HC will win 10 games at OSU. Most of the big ten isn't even trying.

[dubc47834]

Stuff that happened 40 years ago really doesn't have any effect on what happens in current college football, though

but that is besides the point, this all started because someone said Ryan Day shouldn't be fired because OSU is one bad hire away from being a 6-6 team.

That is simply not the case, don't know what else to say. Any HC will win 10 games at OSU. Most of the big ten isn't even trying.

Yeah, definitely arrogant. Might want to lower that nose a little bit. Also, your reading comprehension is off a little bit, I never said Day shouldn't be fired or anything about being a 6-6 team. What I said was, they need to make sure Day isn't the guy because if they fire him and hire the wrong guy, it could set your program back years.

[RedTeamGo!]

Yeah, definitely arrogant. Might want to lower that nose a little bit. Also, your reading comprehension is off a little bit, I never said Day shouldn't be fired or anything about being a 6-6 team. What I said was, they need to make sure Day isn't the guy because if they fire him and hire the wrong guy, it could set your program back years.

Straight up:

Do you believe the following teams are trying their hardest at being a good football team?

Purdue
UCLA
Maryland
Northwestern
Rutgers

For the elite programs those are all layups. I am not even saying just for OSU. Purdue, especially, is a complete joke.

[dubc47834]

Straight up:

Do you believe the following teams are trying their hardest at being a good football team?

Purdue
UCLA
Maryland
Northwestern
Rutgers

For the elite programs those are all layups. I am not even saying just for OSU. Purdue, especially, is a complete joke.

You're right, those teams absolutely stink the overwhelming majority of the time in college football. That really doesn't have anything to do with what I said tho. As OSU fans have said many many times is, their seasons are judged on The Game and the playoffs. One more loss this year, and OSU would've been on the outside looking in. Can you imagine how you and your fellow OSU fans would be? Now hire the wrong coach and let those same circumstances happen for an extended period of time. Your heads would probably explode. I'm not saying you guys wouldn't win games, but with the wrong hire, maybe you're not consistently winning The Game or making the playoffs every year.

IU basketball made a wrong hire, a couple time. We still get talent, but we aren't what we used to be because of bad hires and also hanging on to Coach Knight for too long. Our fans have become as bad as what I consider UK basketball fans, as OSU football fans. Enjoy that time being one of the elites, you never know when it will come to an end!!!

[RedTeamGo!]

You're right, those teams absolutely stink the overwhelming majority of the time in college football. That really doesn't have anything to do with what I said tho. As OSU fans have said many many times is, their seasons are judged on The Game and the playoffs. One more loss this year, and OSU would've been on the outside looking in. Can you imagine how you and your fellow OSU fans would be? Now hire the wrong coach and let those same circumstances happen for an extended period of time. Your heads would probably explode. I'm not saying you guys wouldn't win games, but with the wrong hire, maybe you're not consistently winning The Game or making the playoffs every year.

IU basketball made a wrong hire, a couple time. We still get talent, but we aren't what we used to be because of bad hires and also hanging on to Coach Knight for too long. Our fans have become as bad as what I consider UK basketball fans, as OSU football fans. Enjoy that time being one of the elites, you never know when it will come to an end!!!

I didn't say they would never miss the playoffs. I said they won't lose more than 3-4 games worst case scenario. I also didn't say it was just because of OSU. There are a lot of factors.

Bama just had their pretty much worst case scenario and went 9-3. I view OSU as in a similar circumstance.

[Chip R]

I am sorry and I know it sounds arrogant but I truly don't think you can compare OSU football to pretty much anything in college sports, especially college basketball programs.

I always thought OSU football and UK basketball were pretty comparable.

[westofyou]

Stuff that happened 40 years ago really doesn't have any effect on what happens in current college football, though

but that is besides the point, this all started because someone said Ryan Day shouldn't be fired because OSU is one bad hire away from being a 6-6 team.

That is simply not the case, don't know what else to say. Any HC will win 10 games at OSU. Most of the big ten isn't even trying.

You don't think those teams took advantage of the college landscape back then like OSU does today eh?

Wilt Chamberlin would beg to differ. Point being every dynasty exploits something (rich boosters, multiple scholarships) nothing lasts forever

[RedTeamGo!]

You don't think those teams took advantage of the college landscape back then like OSU does today eh?

Wilt Chamberlin would beg to differ. Point being every dynasty exploits something (rich boosters, multiple scholarships) nothing lasts forever

I agree, and OSU has been down since COVID. The last 4 years has basically been the worst OSU can be in this era. Like I said, they won’t be losing more 3-4 games in a year.

[Assembly Hall]

My Hoosiers are just a very ugly team to watch.

[RedTeamGo!]

My Hoosiers are just a very ugly team to watch.

Didn’t they win by 20 last night?

[westofyou]

I agree, and OSU has been down since COVID. The last 4 years has basically been the worst OSU can be in this era. Like I said, they won’t be losing more 3-4 games in a year.

WAPO weighs in

https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2024/12/06/ryan-day-ohio-state-coach/



Basic compassion dictates you feel bad that a coach with an .868 winning percentage seems to have a precarious future. It goes beyond whether you like Day or think he’s a trust fund coach living off what Urban Meyer established. It’s unsettling to imagine the impact it would have on a fickle industry if Ohio State, as stable as it gets, made Day the first Buckeyes coach since 1950 to last fewer than seven seasons.

You don’t want to live in a college football world that fires or runs off a coach whose worst season is his current 10-2 record. Day is a first-time head coach with plenty of areas to nitpick — including how soft Michigan keeps making the Buckeyes look and some noticeable clock management gaffes — but he doesn’t seem terminally flawed. If he’s at risk of making an early exit, then every prominent, paranoid coach in the sport will carry on wondering, “If winning almost nine out of every 10 games isn’t good enough …”

[RedTeamGo!]

I think this is what people don’t get. He wouldn’t be getting fired for going 10-2. He would be fired for losing Michigan 4 straight years with the most recent loss being to a bad Michigan team. The overall record isn’t part of the equation. Especially with 8 of those 10 wins being against straight up bad competition.

[Assembly Hall]

Didn’t they win by 20 last night?

The margin of victory is deceiving. The Hoosiers will be lucky to finish .500 in conference play playing like this.

[Bourgeois Zee]

Missouri beat Kansas convincingly in Mizzou.

That's a Missouri team that's not one of the SEC's 8 best. Not sure I've seen a better conference, top to bottom. South Carolina might be the worst team in the league, but even they've beaten some good squads. There are four legitimate championship contenders-- and four more ranked teams on top of that. They have a real chance to end up with 8 teams not only in the NCAA, but as top six seeds.

I'd love to know the last time that has happened, if ever.

That's two losses in a row for the Jayhawks.

[dabvu2498]

Missouri beat Kansas convincingly in Mizzou.

That's a Missouri team that's not one of the SEC's 8 best. Not sure I've seen a better conference, top to bottom. South Carolina might be the worst team in the league, but even they've beaten some good squads. There are four legitimate championship contenders-- and four more ranked teams on top of that. They have a real chance to end up with 8 teams not only in the NCAA, but as top six seeds.

I'd love to know the last time that has happened, if ever.

That's two losses in a row for the Jayhawks.

My Commodores are probably going to be 12-1 going to conference play with some decent wins (beat TCU on the road today for instance), but there might only be 5-6 wins in the conference slate for them. It’s a gauntlet and a half.

[westofyou]

I think this is what people don’t get. He wouldn’t be getting fired for going 10-2. He would be fired for losing Michigan 4 straight years with the most recent loss being to a bad Michigan team. The overall record isn’t part of the equation. Especially with 8 of those 10 wins being against straight up bad competition.

https://www.dispatch.com/story/sports/columns/2024/12/10/ohio-state-football-fans-want-nothing-but-perfection-and-that-is-sad-ryan-day-michigan/76859249007/


Ohio State football fans require from their Buckeyes a spotless record, which means a victory over Michigan, a Big Ten championship and a national championship, every year. Anything less, they are angry. Every year.

OK, there doesn’t necessarily have to be a national championship because the SEC is a real thing. Some Ohio State fans even admit to this. But there must be a spotless regular-season record, which means a victory over Michigan and place in the Big Ten championship game, which leads to a playoff berth. Every year. Anything less, and the fans are angry. And everyone should be fired.

Also: When a mid-major opponent is served up for slaughter in Columbus – think Akron, Western Michigan, Marshall and so forth – the Buckeyes must be ahead by 35 points at the half and win by 10 touchdowns. Anything less, and the fans are angry. And maybe the defensive coordinator should be fired before the start of third quarter.

[dubc47834]

https://www.dispatch.com/story/sports/columns/2024/12/10/ohio-state-football-fans-want-nothing-but-perfection-and-that-is-sad-ryan-day-michigan/76859249007/

There is definitely a huge sense of entitlement among many OSU fans, not all, but many.

[Sea Ray]

There is definitely a huge sense of entitlement among many OSU fans, not all, but many.

Not everyone can have Tennessee's athletic dept. Other schools can only long for it

[Sea Ray]

Missouri beat Kansas convincingly in Mizzou.

That's a Missouri team that's not one of the SEC's 8 best. Not sure I've seen a better conference, top to bottom. South Carolina might be the worst team in the league, but even they've beaten some good squads. There are four legitimate championship contenders-- and four more ranked teams on top of that. They have a real chance to end up with 8 teams not only in the NCAA, but as top six seeds.

I'd love to know the last time that has happened, if ever.

That's two losses in a row for the Jayhawks.


My Commodores are probably going to be 12-1 going to conference play with some decent wins (beat TCU on the road today for instance), but there might only be 5-6 wins in the conference slate for them. It’s a gauntlet and a half.

The SEC brought down another ranked team last night in Madison Square Garden. Now, I don't know how much Nov and Dec games mean in college basketball but the SEC is sure using it to help their tournament resumes in March. Interconference games are huge for that. Intradivisional games don't tell you as much nationally 'cause they're just beating up on each other (in a good conference)

[RedTeamGo!]

https://www.dispatch.com/story/sports/columns/2024/12/10/ohio-state-football-fans-want-nothing-but-perfection-and-that-is-sad-ryan-day-michigan/76859249007/

Yeah I disagree with that. Buckeyes fans expect not losing to Michigan 4 straight years with the most recent loss being in humiliating fashion. The big ten championship is next to meaningless now.

Not sure why this is so crazy. Everyone in Ann Arbor wanted Harbaugh fired after he started 0-4 against OSU. This is where you will say “see, Day can turn it around!” But I don’t think Day will have a massive cheating plan to help his team.

[Assembly Hall]

Missouri beat Kansas convincingly in Mizzou.

That's a Missouri team that's not one of the SEC's 8 best. Not sure I've seen a better conference, top to bottom. South Carolina might be the worst team in the league, but even they've beaten some good squads. There are four legitimate championship contenders-- and four more ranked teams on top of that. They have a real chance to end up with 8 teams not only in the NCAA, but as top six seeds.

I'd love to know the last time that has happened, if ever.

That's two losses in a row for the Jayhawks.

IU beat South Carolina...neither is a good squad at the moment. USCe has time to right the ship. The Hoosiers?

[medford]

https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/trotters-10-trends-iowa-states-soaring-offense-kentuckys-changed-lamont-butler-among-top-takeaways/



There's a heated debate about whether Gonzaga or Purdue has the best initiator point guard in college basketball, but Dayton's Malachi Smith may be on the verge of asserting himself into that conversation. Smith ranks second in the sport with a dazzling 44.8 assist rate.

Dayton is putting the ball in his hands a ton because it's working so effectively. Dayton is averaging 15.8 points directly off Smith's pick-and-rolls. That ranks 16th in college basketball and most of the guys ahead of him are future lottery picks (like Illinois' Kasparas Jakucionis or Rutgers' Dylan Harper) or All-American candidates (like Marquette's Kam Jones, Purdue's Braden Smith, Gonzaga's Ryan Nembhard, Penn State's Ace Baldwin or New Mexico's Donovan Dent).


There is a little more to that piece on Mali and the next item covered is about the tough Marquette defense UD will face this weekend.

[texasdave]

For the past 20 past seasons, the eventual NCAA Men's Basketball Champion has been ranked in the top 12 of the Week 6 AP Poll.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/other/for-20-years-the-week-6-ap-top-12-has-predicted-the-ncaa-champion/ar-AA1vQuyh?ocid=msedgntp&pc=DCTS&cvid=09f044d1f45e428eb67c8c07a8b60bf9&ei=23

If your team isn't listed here, better luck next season.

Top 12 teams.

If history holds, one of these 12 programs will win it all:

1. Tennessee (8-0)

2. Auburn (8-1)

3. Iowa State (7-1)

4. Duke (7-2)

5. Kentucky (8-1)

6. Marquette (9-1)

7. Alabama (7-2)

8. Gonzaga (7-2)

9. Florida (9-0)

10. Kansas (7-2)

11. Purdue (8-2)

12. Oregon (9-1)

[RedTeamGo!]

https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/news/trotters-10-trends-iowa-states-soaring-offense-kentuckys-changed-lamont-butler-among-top-takeaways/



There is a little more to that piece on Mali and the next item covered is about the tough Marquette defense UD will face this weekend.

Go flyers!

[Boston Red]

UD is favored by 1. Quite the opportunity for them.

[RedTeamGo!]

The Buckeyes are terrible

[Ky Fried Redleg]

The Buckeyes are terrible

And Lamont Butler is not...

[WVRed]

And Lamont Butler is not...I will admit I am biased but if Pope has a relatively strong showing in SEC play he should be Coach of the Year.

Rebuilding the roster and having a team that was expected to be a bottom feeder in the SEC this year and is now a top 5 team is remarkable.

But again I am biased.

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[RedTeamGo!]

goooooOOOOOO DAYton FLYers!!!

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I will admit I am biased but if Pope has a relatively strong showing in SEC play he should be Coach of the Year.

Rebuilding the roster and having a team that was expected to be a bottom feeder in the SEC this year and is now a top 5 team is remarkable.

But again I am biased.

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Who in the world said Kentucky would be a bottom feeder? Lmao

[WVRed]

goooooOOOOOO DAYton FLYers!!!

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Who in the world said Kentucky would be a bottom feeder? LmaoThe SEC is stacked and the only reason they were ranked as high as they were to start the season was probably name.

Nobody in BBN expected this type of season with Cal leaving the cupboard bare and Pope having to bring in a team of mostly grad transfers.

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[Ky Fried Redleg]

goooooOOOOOO DAYton FLYers!!!

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Who in the world said Kentucky would be a bottom feeder? Lmao

I was reading a lot of people's forecast before the season. Many were saying the Cats would struggle to be a .500 team.

[Sea Ray]

I was reading a lot of people's forecast before the season. Many were saying the Cats would struggle to be a .500 team.

UK has exceeded expectations but you’re exaggerating their preseason rankings. They were #23 nationally and middle of the pack (8th) in the SEC. That’s not bottom feeding SEC and teams ranked in the top 25 are not expected to struggle to be .500


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[medford]

question on the NCAA WAB stat

WAB is found on their NET rankings page.

https://www.ncaa.com/rankings/basketball-men/d1/ncaa-mens-basketball-net-rankings

In addition to NET and each teams Quad break down, there is a WAB stat for each team.

For those that don't know, WAB is "wins above bubble" and in basic terms is how many wins does a given team have in comparision to a "generic" bubblish team (35ish) in the rankings.

On places like Torvik, WAB is easy to follow, teams are +/-. Auburn leads the way at 3.5 WAB. Local Flavor IU is -0.4 which follows their record, they have beat up a bunch of bad teams, and lost to all the good teams they have faced. Pretty easy to follow and gives more definition to you ranking.

However, the NCAA WAB is listed more like a record; for instance Aurbun is 4-0 in WAB while Indiana is 7-0. I thought it could be as simple as their record vs teams below the bubble, though I'm not sure why that would be neccessary since they also break down Quad 3 & 4 records and those are teams clearly below the bubble, however I see that Maryland is 8-2 overall with a 7-1 WAB. Their only losses have been to Purdue and Marquette, both top 25 NET teams at the moment and clearly above the bubble, so how do they get a 7-1 record in WAB?

Does anyone understand how the NCAA uses this and defines it? I can't find anything clearly on the web that would reflect to how the NCAA list WAB.

[Sea Ray]

question on the NCAA WAB stat

WAB is found on their NET rankings page.

https://www.ncaa.com/rankings/basketball-men/d1/ncaa-mens-basketball-net-rankings

In addition to NET and each teams Quad break down, there is a WAB stat for each team.

For those that don't know, WAB is "wins above bubble" and in basic terms is how many wins does a given team have in comparision to a "generic" bubblish team (35ish) in the rankings.

On places like Torvik, WAB is easy to follow, teams are +/-. Auburn leads the way at 3.5 WAB. Local Flavor IU is -0.4 which follows their record, they have beat up a bunch of bad teams, and lost to all the good teams they have faced. Pretty easy to follow and gives more definition to you ranking.

However, the NCAA WAB is listed more like a record; for instance Aurbun is 4-0 in WAB while Indiana is 7-0. I thought it could be as simple as their record vs teams below the bubble, though I'm not sure why that would be neccessary since they also break down Quad 3 & 4 records and those are teams clearly below the bubble, however I see that Maryland is 8-2 overall with a 7-1 WAB. Their only losses have been to Purdue and Marquette, both top 25 NET teams at the moment and clearly above the bubble, so how do they get a 7-1 record in WAB?

Does anyone understand how the NCAA uses this and defines it? I can't find anything clearly on the web that would reflect to how the NCAA list WAB.

Never heard of WAB and I sure don't get it. I am wondering how Memphis can be ranked so low (31) considering that they have 5 quad-1 wins. I don't see how 5-1 in quad-1, 8-2 overall and they're not even in the top 25

[Sea Ray]

It's good to be a Tennessee Vol

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[UKFlounder]

Not that hard-pressed - he may not even be the SEC coach of the year thus far. Bruce Pearl and Mark Pope have done at least as well as Barnes has so far.

It’s way too early to make such pronouncements

[RedTeamGo!]

Yeah that’s absurd. OSU was 11-2 going into January last year IIRC.

Tennessee is quite good, but Barnes can’t win in the tourney. Guy couldn’t win with Kevin Durant.

[Sea Ray]

Not that hard-pressed - he may not even be the SEC coach of the year thus far. Bruce Pearl and Mark Pope have done at least as well as Barnes has so far.

It’s way too early to make such pronouncements

Granted, it was clearly stated “for December”. Bruce Pearl had the possible player of the year coming back so I don’t see how that helps his case


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[Sea Ray]

Yeah that’s absurd. OSU was 11-2 going into January last year IIRC.

Tennessee is quite good, but Barnes can’t win in the tourney. Guy couldn’t win with Kevin Durant.

He took us to the elite 8 last year. Couldn’t get past Purdue. Didn’t have an answer for Edey. No shame in that. Barnes is likely going to the Hall of Fame


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[medford]

UD survived UNLV, pulled it out by the skin of their teeth. Defensively they looked fine, offensively they looked disjointed. Is that more of a clue of who they are, or was UNLV a classic trap game coming off the heels of knocking off top 10 marquette, getting ranked for the first time and looking ahead to top 20 UC on friday?

Anyhoo, for the UC fans on here, what is your perception of this matchup? I haven't had the chance to watch much UC hoops, looking at Torvik and Evan Miya, it would appear that UC is slight favorites. However, some non UC/UD national/regional media types that I've heard talk about this matchup make it sound like UD is the better team. Both Torvik and Miya have UD as the better offensive team, but UC significantly better on the defensive end. As an observer, I've thought UD's defense has been solid this season, missing the back end rim protector that they had the last few seasons, but much better with ball pressure, however the analytic sites just list their defense as "ok" (or maybe slightly better than "ok" at around 100th nationally, 70ish to 100ish depending on what site you want to use).

UC seems to have a lot of length, UD does not, and I think that will create issues for UD this game. UC doesn't get to the line very often and is even worse when they do. Both teams shoot too many mid range jumpers it appears.

UC hasn't played much of a schedule to date and hasn't exactly shown great in the 2 semi decent teams that they have played, UD has played a much better schedule so far, and has looked decent to great from (4) quad 1 games plus Northwestern, though in all those games save Marquette and Iowa St UD has had very different halves. UD won't get many chances at Quad 1 victories in the A10, while obviously UC will get a bunch coming up in conference, including several at home so this means a lot more for UD than it does for UC.

Seemed like it was more of a pro UD crowd last season when they did this, I wonder how it will shake out this year. I'm glad they are doing this and hope it continues moving forward.

[Assembly Hall]

Tennessee is quite good, but Barnes can’t win in the tourney. Guy couldn’t win with Kevin Durant.

Meh. That Texas team started 4 freshmen and a soph. If Kev would have just stuck around...

[Sea Ray]

Meh. That Texas team started 4 freshmen and a soph. If Kev would have just stuck around...

Durant hasn't won much in the NBA either unless he had a better player by his side like Steph

[medford]

Was there a reason Bama played @ North Dakota St last night? I loved that they did so, but seemed like an odd place for P5 school to play a road game.

edit: I found that one of Bama's seniors is from ND.

[Boston Red]

They actually played North Dakota, who is signifcantly worse than North Dakota State.

It's tough to win on the road. KenPom ranks North Dakota 287th, and Alabama trailed by double digits in the first half. Oops, looks like I had bad info, and their largest lead was 6 looking at the game flow. But it was tied with two minutes to go.

[Slyder]

It's good to be a Tennessee Vol

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*Darian DeVries has entered the chat*

WVU Wins the previous 3 years...
9 (4 in big 12 play)
19 (7-11 in big 12 play)
16 (4 in Big 12 play)

He has 8 including wins against Gonzaga (neutral court) and Arizona (neutral non conference).

[texasdave]

Ohio State curbstomped Kentucky this afternoon. They lead by 20 late in the second half.

[WVRed]

Just saw that Jim Larranaga may be stepping down immediately at Miami. Seems to be health related.

Frank Martin would be a perfect fit there.

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[Boston Red]

Sad to hear about Larranaga. That George Mason run to the Final Four was about as much fun as I ever had rooting for a team I had zero connection to.

[Ky Fried Redleg]

Not that hard-pressed - he may not even be the SEC coach of the year thus far. Bruce Pearl and Mark Pope have done at least as well as Barnes has so far.

It’s way too early to make such pronouncements

Barnes seems like a nice man but Barnes teams do what Barnes teams do...peter out when the calendar deep dives into March. Not even Kevin Durant could get ol' Rick over the finish line. Barnes is okay, but nothing more.

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Sad to hear about Larranaga. That George Mason run to the Final Four was about as much fun as I ever had rooting for a team I had zero connection to.

Yeah, always been a big Larranaga fan.

[Danny Serafini]

I remember when Larranaga left Bowling Green for George Mason, people up here were puzzled. The MAC was considered a higher regarded league than the Colonial at the time. Certainly worked out for him.

[WVRed]

I watched some of Larranagas press conference. Him complaining about the transfer portal is fine until you consider that team was built through NIL. Kinda hypocritical

I thought it was health related but it was probably him being forced out.

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[Assembly Hall]

I watched some of Larranagas press conference. Him complaining about the transfer portal is fine until you consider that team was built through NIL. Kinda hypocritical

I thought it was health related but it was probably him being forced out.

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The 'Canes worst start in over 30 years?

[Rojo Rijo]

As we head into conference play Joe Lunardi currently has 13 SEC teams making the tournament and 1 (Missouri) in his first 4 out. It's hard to overstate how good the SEC has been so far. While they've underdelivered in the CFP/Football it looks like they will be the King of the Court this season. Only 3 teams remain unbeaten in CBB and all are SEC - Tennessee, Florida, Oklahoma.

Power 5 (and Big East) non-conference records:
SEC: 185-23 (.889)
B10: 160-40 (.800)
B12: 134-42 (.761)
Big East 84-37 (.694)
ACC: 129-69 (.651)

[UKFlounder]

As we head into conference play Joe Lunardi currently has 13 SEC teams making the tournament and 1 (Missouri) in his first 4 out. It's hard to overstate how good the SEC has been so far. While they've underdelivered in the CFP/Football it looks like they will be the King of the Court this season. Only 3 teams remain unbeaten in CBB and all are SEC - Tennessee, Florida, Oklahoma.

Power 5 (and Big East) non-conference records:
SEC: 185-23 (.889)
B10: 160-40 (.800)
B12: 134-42 (.761)
Big East 84-37 (.694)
ACC: 129-69 (.651)

I wonder if how much they beat up on each other this season might hurt seeding or wear thrm out by tournament time.

Otherwise the regular season might be a bloodbath

[Rojo Rijo]

I wonder if how much they beat up on each other this season might hurt seeding or wear thrm out by tournament time.

Otherwise the regular season might be a bloodbath

One things for certain, road wins are going to be tough to come by

[dabvu2498]

UF-UK was rock-and-roll. Arky-UT is a rock fight.

[Ky Fried Redleg]

As we head into conference play Joe Lunardi currently has 13 SEC teams making the tournament and 1 (Missouri) in his first 4 out. It's hard to overstate how good the SEC has been so far. While they've underdelivered in the CFP/Football it looks like they will be the King of the Court this season. Only 3 teams remain unbeaten in CBB and all are SEC - Tennessee, Florida, Oklahoma.

Power 5 (and Big East) non-conference records:
SEC: 185-23 (.889)
B10: 160-40 (.800)
B12: 134-42 (.761)
Big East 84-37 (.694)
ACC: 129-69 (.651)




2 now .

[BlackPete Ibold]

Just got done listening to John Sadak call the UNC/Notre Dame hoops game on CBS... did not know he did college hoops.

He was actually ok, but took me a minute to get past the Twilight Zone element to it. His enthusiastic approach is probably better suited to the pace and length of basketball games more than baseball, imo.

Anyway, had me thinking about Reds baseball and anxious for spring (not gonna be a good year for my Heels)

[Sea Ray]

UF-UK was rock-and-roll. Arky-UT is a rock fight.

Arky-UT was a blowout. Cal loses another one to Rick Barnes


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[dubc47834]

Nice road win for the Hoosiers yesterday.

[Assembly Hall]

Nice road win for the Hoosiers yesterday.

I sure as hell didn't see that coming. It doesn't change my disdain for Woody, the HC.

[dubc47834]

I sure as hell didn't see that coming. It doesn't change my disdain for Woody, the HC.

I think Reneau being hurt is going to be a positive in the long run. Woody wanted to play him and Ballo together way too much. This now forces a different line up, one that doesn't foul all the time also.

[WVRed]

Arky-UT was a blowout. Cal loses another one to Rick Barnes


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkCal blamed the loss on not having a shoot around before the game.

Greatest Hits. He did the same thing at Kentucky too.

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[Sea Ray]

Cal blamed the loss on not having a shoot around before the game.

Greatest Hits. He did the same thing at Kentucky too.



That doesn't explain "getting manhandled" and getting outrebounded 51-29

https://sports.yahoo.com/john-calipari-tennessee-basketball-manhandled-015122567.html

[Boston Red]

Rick Pitino rolled into town and picked up an easy win tonight.

[Boston Red]

Also, Florida appeared very annoyed at Tennessee still being undefeated.

[Rojo Rijo]

Also, Florida appeared very annoyed at Tennessee still being undefeated.

I liked our chances (again SEC road wins are going to be extremely difficult to find) but I did not expect to win by 30.

Quickly got rid of any bad taste leftover from the 106-100 loss at Rupp over the weekend.

[Sea Ray]

Tennessee shot horribly

[texasdave]

I wonder if Bearcat fans are missing Mick Cronin yet? It's looking like no tourney again this season. It's been awhile. I held out hopes for Wes Miller, but they just don't seem very well-coached to me.

[Sea Ray]

I wonder if Bearcat fans are missing Mick Cronin yet? It's looking like no tourney again this season. It's been awhile. I held out hopes for Wes Miller, but they just don't seem very well-coached to me.

The B12 looks much tougher in BB than FB. I think they were over ranked earlier. But at least they did beat Xavier.

[Rojo Rijo]

Tennessee shot horribly

At least you guys get a shot at redemption in Knoxville. Unfortunately due to scheduling we don't get a shot at Kentucky on our own turf.

Our schedule has kind of worked out crappy that way.

We play #10 Kentucky, #2 Auburn, #5 Alabama, and #14 Mississippi St. all on the road and none of them visit Gainesville.
*Though we do get #10 Texas A&M and #23 Ole Miss at home and don't travel to them.

Our 3 H/As are Tennessee, Georgia, and South Carolina

[Boston Red]

But at least they did beat Xavier.

Xavier sucks, and UC was really fortunate to win that one at home. That should have been a warning sign for UC. Losing at K-State was the real blow. Couldn't afford that to start the conference season.

[Boston Red]

I wonder if Bearcat fans are missing Mick Cronin yet?

UCLA fans might be happly to give him back.

[WVRed]

At least you guys get a shot at redemption in Knoxville. Unfortunately due to scheduling we don't get a shot at Kentucky on our own turf.

Our schedule has kind of worked out crappy that way.

We play #10 Kentucky, #2 Auburn, #5 Alabama, and #14 Mississippi St. all on the road and none of them visit Gainesville.
*Though we do get #10 Texas A&M and #23 Ole Miss at home and don't travel to them.

Our 3 H/As are Tennessee, Georgia, and South Carolina

We get Tennessee, Vandy and Alabama twice.

I would have rather seen Bama switched for Florida. I really don't understand the SEC pushing Bama as a rival given the history of Kentucky and Florida in basketball. Especially in my lifetime.

On a side note, if you are a physical team and you play at home you will probably beat Kentucky this year.

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[Slyder]

We get Tennessee, Vandy and Alabama twice.

I would have rather seen Bama switched for Florida. I really don't understand the SEC pushing Bama as a rival given the history of Kentucky and Florida in basketball. Especially in my lifetime.

On a side note, if you are a physical team and you play at home you will probably beat Kentucky this year.

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Uniformity with football?

[Boston Red]

Welcome to the party Dayton!

Sincerely,
Xavier and UC

[RedTeamGo!]

Welcome to the party Dayton!

Sincerely,
Xavier and UC

yeah this sucks

[Sea Ray]

UC scored a total of 15 pts in the second half at home. How does that happen?


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[Boss-Hog]

UC scored a total of 15 pts in the second half at home. How does that happen?


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkThey look to be very poorly coached. There's no other excuse for them to be 0-4 in conference.

[Sea Ray]

They look to be very poorly coached. There's no other excuse for them to be 0-4 in conference.

It’s a tough conference but I agree with you. 0-4 is unacceptable. I think Miller was overhyped


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[Sea Ray]

Anyone interested in bringing Huggins back for a short run? I think I would. What do you have to lose?


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[Boston Red]

Arkansas fans must be so thrilled to be paying through the nose for the body of the guy who used to be John Calipari.

[Rojo Rijo]

Arkansas fans must be so thrilled to be paying through the nose for the body of the guy who used to be John Calipari.

I don't think he's terrible but his bread and butter was putting together 18/19 year old superstar teams and letting them play dribble drive. NIL and transfer portal tore that recipe to shreds. Now he's just a decent coach with an above average resume.

[Sea Ray]

gotta like Rick Barnes:


Rick Barnes on Chaz Lanier: "I took him out, the first play of the second half, because he didn't shoot the ball. That play was designed for that shot. And I told him, I said, 'if you're not going to do what you're getting paid to do, you sit over here.' 'Cause he is getting paid to do that."

https://x.com/benmckee14/status/1878269368015962510?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5 Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1878269368015962510%7Ctwgr% 5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=

It is not about being a student anymore. You are paid to do something

[WVRed]

I don't think he's terrible but his bread and butter was putting together 18/19 year old superstar teams and letting them play dribble drive. NIL and transfer portal tore that recipe to shreds. Now he's just a decent coach with an above average resume.

Yes and no.

Cal has plenty of NIL backing, from Tyson, Walmart and Jerry Jones. He's used the transfer portal as well as anyone.

The problem is the dribble drive itself is outdated and that is all Cal knows. Basketball constantly evolves and not only have the players today improved but so has coaching. From analytics to new sets the last ten years has seen a change take place that Cal has yet to keep up with.

This years team minus Johnell Davis and Jonas Aidoo would have essentially been Kentuckys team this year. After losing to Oakland Cal was prepared to run it back with more of the same and this recruiting class while top 3 was an overall down class in terms of top tier talent. It was the right year for Kentucky to make a break with Cal and I think it's worked out pretty well in Lexington.

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[Sea Ray]

They look to be very poorly coached. There's no other excuse for them to be 0-4 in conference.

Anyone know why UC is getting any AP Top 25 votes? Can't figure that out

[Boston Red]

Anyone know why UC is getting any AP Top 25 votes? Can't figure that out

Many of those voters don't pay very close attention.

[RedTeamGo!]

Buckeye hoops is awful. I was right about moving on from Holmann but holy crap was Diebler a mistake

[Boston Red]

Buckeye hoops is awful. I was right about moving on from Holmann but holy crap was Diebler a mistake

Strange timing for this.

[Sea Ray]

Strange timing for this.

Really nice, come from behind, win for Ohio State basketball last night. Someone jumped the gun on being a Negative Nelly

[RedTeamGo!]

They were 2-5 in conference going into the game and were down by 17 at halftime at Purdue. Sue me.

[WVRed]

They were 2-5 in conference going into the game and were down by 17 at halftime at Purdue. Sue me.Could have had Calipari back in March/April. Reports were he was interested in Ohio State before they decided to keep Diebler. [emoji846]

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[Boston Red]

Could have had Calipari back in March/April. Reports were he was interested in Ohio State before they decided to keep Diebler. [emoji846]

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How long is Arkansas stuck with that old coot if he has no shame and refuses to retire?

[WVRed]

How long is Arkansas stuck with that old coot if he has no shame and refuses to retire?Five year contract.

Even if he rebounds I don't see him making it through the contract. Arkansas has some pretty big name boosters who will pay him to go away.

This years team would have actually been worse at Kentucky when you consider he has Somto Cyril, Travis Perry and Jayden Quaintance over Johnell Davis, Jonas Aidoo and Trevon Brazille.

Next year Arkansas has Darius Acuff Jr (top PG) and Meleek Thomas (top SG). The talent level is better next year but the problem is coaching, not talent.

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[Slyder]

https://www.espn.com/college-sports/story/_/id/43497574/indiana-lays-25-revenue-sharing-nears

Indiana University has laid off 25 athletic department employees as it prepares for revenue sharing with athletes that is expected to begin this year, according to multiple reports.

School officials are attempting to trim the budget in each division of the athletic department, such as compliance and communications, by roughly 10%.

[Revering4Blue]

https://www.espn.com/college-sports/story/_/id/43497574/indiana-lays-25-revenue-sharing-nears

Indiana University has laid off 25 athletic department employees as it prepares for revenue sharing with athletes that is expected to begin this year, according to multiple reports.

School officials are attempting to trim the budget in each division of the athletic department, such as compliance and communications, by roughly 10%.

Too bad they aren’t laying off the Men’s basketball coach.


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[Sea Ray]

They were 2-5 in conference going into the game and were down by 17 at halftime at Purdue. Sue me.

Fine. Praise them for a nice comeback. Why aren’t you following up your earlier post with one like that?


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[dubc47834]

They were 2-5 in conference going into the game and were down by 17 at halftime at Purdue. Sue me.

Maybe you should've waited till that game was over.

You're takes generally aren't that great. You cried about Ryan Day after the Michigan game, and he ended up winning a national title.

[Boston Red]

Maybe you should've waited till that game was over.

You're takes generally aren't that great. You cried about Ryan Day after the Michigan game, and he ended up winning a national title.

RTG is on a roll with the reverse juju, though. Got to respect the streak. Hopefully we hear that the Reds have no chance of making the playoffs soon!

[dubc47834]

RTG is on a roll with the reverse juju, though. Got to respect the streak. Hopefully we hear that the Reds have no chance of making the playoffs soon!

Maybe it is intentional. Sign me up. Can I get him to give me the wrong powerball numbers also! :beerme:

[Assembly Hall]

Too bad they aren’t laying off the Men’s basketball coach.


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I wish RMK would have kicked Woody off the team back in '78 in Alaska...

[RedTeamGo!]

Maybe you should've waited till that game was over.

You're takes generally aren't that great. You cried about Ryan Day after the Michigan game, and he ended up winning a national title.

Oh pardon me for thinking the 2 loss team that lost to a 6-5 michigan team for the 4th year in a row wouldn't go on to win the national title.

As for Ohio State basketball under Diebler, they are currently 14th in the B1G with an 11-8 record. Not exactly killing it.

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Fine. Praise them for a nice comeback. Why aren’t you following up your earlier post with one like that?


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Why would I praise a coach that currently has his very talented squad 11-8 and ranked 14th in the conference?

[Assembly Hall]

@ RTG

tOSU has a pretty damn good looking resume. That Purdue win added to it.

[Sea Ray]

Oh pardon me for thinking the 2 loss team that lost to a 6-5 michigan team for the 4th year in a row wouldn't go on to win the national title.

As for Ohio State basketball under Diebler, they are currently 14th in the B1G with an 11-8 record. Not exactly killing it.

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Why would I praise a coach that currently has his very talented squad 11-8 and ranked 14th in the conference?

Why? Because it was a good win. Can't you compliment a guy on a nice win?

[Sea Ray]

Vandy takes down Kentucky after beating Tennessee last week. Damn it's tough playing on the road in the SEC

[Boston Red]

KU with one of the larger chokes you'll ever see at home against Houston in OT today.

[Boston Red]

Arkansas loses another one at home. What a shame.

[RedTeamGo!]

@ RTG

tOSU has a pretty damn good looking resume. That Purdue win added to it.

They are 11-8

[texasdave]

It looks more and more like Coach Wes Miller is not going to be the answer for UC as the glory days of the Bearcats recede farther and farther out of sight. I wonder if it wouldn't have been better to be the big fish in a little than vice versa as both their basketball and football programs struggle to tread water.

[WVRed]

It looks more and more like Coach Wes Miller is not going to be the answer for UC as the glory days of the Bearcats recede farther and farther out of sight. I wonder if it wouldn't have been better to be the big fish in a little than vice versa as both their basketball and football programs struggle to tread water.And if he was the answer he would be on UNCs radar.

Gonna be interesting to see if UNC moves off of Hubert Davis given how barren that tree is.

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[Boston Red]

Archie Miller has a point here. A really, really stupid one, but a point nonetheless.

https://x.com/MarkTitusShow/status/1884029548549079109

[Sea Ray]

Archie Miller has a point here. A really, really stupid one, but a point nonetheless.

https://x.com/MarkTitusShow/status/1884029548549079109

What’s surprising about a conference being .500 once conference play starts? I don’t see how the math would work otherwise


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[Boston Red]

What’s surprising about a conference being .500 once conference play starts? I don’t see how the math would work otherwise


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Can't get anything by you! But you CAN get it by Archie Miller.

[Boston Red]

Lots of local flavor in the first teams out of Lunardi's new bracketology. Xavier, UC and Dayton are 3 of the 8 first teams out. Not sure how UC is even that high up on the list while 2-6 in the Big XII, but it seems they still have hope if they turn things around.

[Sea Ray]

Lots of local flavor in the first teams out of Lunardi's new bracketology. Xavier, UC and Dayton are 3 of the 8 first teams out. Not sure how UC is even that high up on the list while 2-6 in the Big XII, but it seems they still have hope if they turn things around.

I'm amazed UC and Xavier are so high. If that's really the case then they have too many teams in the tournament

[Boston Red]

Xavier has been playing quite well of late. They're in pretty good shape to make the Dance IF they keep up the strong play.

[Sea Ray]

My Vols are up to #4


NEW AP POLL!

1. Auburn
2. Duke
3. Alabama
4. Tennessee
5. Houston
6. Florida
7. Purdue
8. Iowa State
9. Michigan State
10. Texas A&M

https://x.com/MarchMadnessMBB/status/1886476417560666459?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5 Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1886476417560666459%7Ctwgr% 5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=

Amazing how much the Wildcats loss to Calipari hurt them

[Sea Ray]

Kentucky loses another one. They only forced one Ole Miss turnover the entire game. How does that happen? They probably ought to scour Indeed.com for a point guard


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[dubc47834]

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/43723592/sources-woodson-unlikely-return-indiana-next-season

Coach Woodson not expected back next year. Sucks it's didn't work out, but it's time we moved on from the "Knight Era"

[WVRed]

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/43723592/sources-woodson-unlikely-return-indiana-next-season

Coach Woodson not expected back next year. Sucks it's didn't work out, but it's time we moved on from the "Knight Era"Will they though?

Dusty May and Chris Beard (no connection to IU but one to Knight) would probably be candidates.

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[dubc47834]

Will they though?

Dusty May and Chris Beard (no connection to IU but one to Knight) would probably be candidates.

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Either of those guys would be good hires just based on resume. Many will want them just because they are Knight guys, or they play a Knight style of basketball(i have no idea what style they coach)

[Assembly Hall]

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/43723592/sources-woodson-unlikely-return-indiana-next-season

Coach Woodson not expected back next year. Sucks it's didn't work out, but it's time we moved on from the "Knight Era"

DING DONG THE WITCH IS DEAD! Maybe?

[WVRed]

Four of the top 5 teams are in the SEC:

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/43781850/auburn-loss-edges-alabama-stay-no-1-ap-top-25

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[RedTeamGo!]

DING DONG THE WITCH IS DEAD! Maybe?

I do not understand why they didnt fire Woodson last offseason, Now they have missed out on Dusty May, doubt he leaves UM after one year

[dubc47834]

I do not understand why they didnt fire Woodson last offseason, Now they have missed out on Dusty May, doubt he leaves UM after one year

Woodson has friends in high places at IU. That and his pricey buyout were the only things that kept him around. If it were up to the fans, he wouldve been gone last year.

[WVRed]

https://www.on3.com/news/mike-woodson-indiana-jeff-goodman-call-rick-pitino-replace-head-coach/

Could you imagine Pitino coaching Kentucky, Louisville and Indiana?

Indiana comes to Rupp in December as well. That would top Caliparis return easily.

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[dubc47834]

https://www.on3.com/news/mike-woodson-indiana-jeff-goodman-call-rick-pitino-replace-head-coach/

Could you imagine Pitino coaching Kentucky, Louisville and Indiana?

Indiana comes to Rupp in December as well. That would top Caliparis return easily.

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Would be a crazy hire. I doubt they'd ever hire him tho. Too much dirt in his past for him to be an IU hire, at least for most of the fans. I'd take him for sure tho. He'd more than likely get the program back on track, even if only for a few years.

[Assembly Hall]

I didn't have the Hoosiers winning at Sparty on my bingo card.

[Sea Ray]

Would be a crazy hire. I doubt they'd ever hire him tho. Too much dirt in his past for him to be an IU hire, at least for most of the fans. I'd take him for sure tho. He'd more than likely get the program back on track, even if only for a few years.

How ‘bout Bruce Pearl? I wouldn’t rule that one out. I think he could be had if IU really wanted him


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[dubc47834]

How ‘bout Bruce Pearl? I wouldn’t rule that one out. I think he could be had if IU really wanted him


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I wouldn't mind Bruce. He has some baggage, but not enough for me to say no on. I think he could do really well at IU. With the money the basketball program has(crazy to say these days), he could get some really good talent. I also think he is pretty solid X's and O's wise. Plus, as long as he does well, could coach a lot longer than Petino would be able to due to age. I've not really put too much thought in to who I would like for them to hire yet tho.

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I didn't have the Hoosiers winning at Sparty on my bingo card.

For real. I didn't even watch the game because I thought it would get ugly early.

[Sea Ray]

Kinda like IU said to Izzo, you won’t be breaking Coach Knight’s record on our watch


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[Assembly Hall]

Kinda like IU said to Izzo, you won’t be breaking Coach Knight’s record on our watch


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Izzy better be worried about winning another game coming down the stretch. Sparty's schedule is brutal to finish the regular season.

[Chip R]

Fresno State's basketball program is being looked at for potential ties to sports gambling.

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/43969441/fresno-state-holds-players-source-confirms-betting-inquiry

[Assembly Hall]

Kind of eerie how quiet this thread is. WTF?

[RedTeamGo!]

Kind of eerie how quiet this thread is. WTF?

Both my teams suck

[Boston Red]

Kind of eerie how quiet this thread is. WTF?

IU, UC, Dayton and Xavier all stink (or at least aren't very good). Kentucky is having a better than expected but still not that great by Kentucky standards season. Sea Ray is carrying being the lone fan whose team is having a year worth talking about (excuse me if there's a Purdue fan or two about).

[RedTeamGo!]

IU, UC, Dayton and Xavier all stink (or at least aren't very good). Kentucky is having a better than expected but still not that great by Kentucky standards season. Sea Ray is carrying being the lone fan whose team is having a year worth talking about (excuse me if there's a Purdue fan or two about).

The Buckeyes are garbage as well

[RichRed]

James Madison is in first place at 19-10 and 12-4 in the very weak Sun Belt. At #128 in the Massey rankings, they’re going to have to run the table in the conference tournament if they want to be Dancing for the second year in a row.

[Boston Red]

James Madison is in first place at 19-10 and 12-4 in the very weak Sun Belt. At #128 in the Massey rankings, they’re going to have to run the table in the conference tournament if they want to be Dancing for the second year in a row.

Don't they only have to win like 1 or 2 games with the Sun Belt playing the craziest ladder tournament this side of pro bowling?

[RichRed]

Don't they only have to win like 1 or 2 games with the Sun Belt playing the craziest ladder tournament this side of pro bowling?

Haha, yep. The top two seeds get like a quintuple bye or something, and don’t play until the 6th day of the tournament. Two wins and you’re in, it’s kinda nuts.

[Danny Serafini]

Those wacky stepladders are good business for conferences like that. May as well make it easier for your best teams to advance instead of some 9-21 group that got hot for 3 days just to get blown out on Tuesday in Dayton.

[RedTeamGo!]

That is how the WCC has done it forever

[Boston Red]

That is how the WCC has done it forever

Not to the same extreme. Probably because there are more teams in the Sun Belt.

[Sea Ray]

I'm enjoying Tennessee's season but I am kinda melancholy about it as well 'cause I see a big dropoff next year. It's kind of a last dance thing. It's been a fun ten yr run

[Boston Red]

With the transfer portal, how can you have any idea what Tennessee's roster will look like next year?

[Sea Ray]

With the transfer portal, how can you have any idea what Tennessee's roster will look like next year?

That does change a lot. Kind of the main hope we have

[dubc47834]

Heeeey, we're good again, at least until we play again. Good win for IU's tourney hopes yesterday against pee-you

[Slyder]

WVU has had a much better year than I expected but they seem kind of fading as the season's gone on. I would like to at least get in the tourney but we just don't have the depth without the coach's son. 16-11 feels a lot better than I've been the last 2-3 years.

[Sea Ray]

The bus carrying the Indiana University Indianapolis men's basketball team burst into flames on the highway as it returned from a game in northern Kentucky. No one was injured.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/bus-carrying-indiana-university-mens-basketball-team-bursts-flames-hig-rcna193483

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[Sea Ray]

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[Assembly Hall]

Heeeey, we're good again, at least until we play again. Good win for IU's tourney hopes yesterday against pee-you

Hard to believe that the Hoosiers are in this position.

[Revering4Blue]

Hard to believe that the Hoosiers are in this position.

No question the talent is there. But it seems pretty obvious that the following have occurred since it was announced Woody is stepping down at season’s conclusion:

- The players are playing looser, but not to the point that collectively they are careless, with nothing to fear.

- Woody has more or less abandoned his archaic schemes and is, well, actually coaching within the confines of modern scheming on both sides of the ball, such as staggering the minutes of the bigs and eschewing hockey-style mass substituting.

Provided Dolson nails the next hire - finally, Buckner’s and the old-school BOT’s influence will be minimal, if anything, after Dolson nailed the Football hire - this COULD be a win-win situation: They qualify for the NCAAs this year, as occurred when Davis was leaving. One game at a time, though. They cannot lay an egg tonight.


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[Assembly Hall]

No question the talent is there. But it seems pretty obvious that the following have occurred since it was announced Woody is stepping down at season’s conclusion:

- The players are playing looser, but not to the point that collectively they are careless, with nothing to fear.

- Woody has more or less abandoned his archaic schemes and is, well, actually coaching within the confines of modern scheming on both sides of the ball, such as staggering the minutes of the bigs and eschewing hockey-style mass substituting.

Provided Dolson nails the next hire - finally, Buckner’s and the old-school BOT’s influence will be minimal, if anything, after Dolson nailed the Football hire - this COULD be a win-win situation: They qualify for the NCAAs this year, as occurred when Davis was leaving. One game at a time, though. They cannot lay an egg tonight.


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Well the Hoosiers escaped last night as Reneau found his way to the hospital. I find myself looking forward to watching the last 3 games and the BTT.

[Hoosier Red]

Not to the same extreme. Probably because there are more teams in the Sun Belt.

I'm waiting for a conference to go all All-Valley Karate tournament and just have a tournament to face the regular season champs in the Championship game.

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Well the Hoosiers escaped last night as Reneau found his way to the hospital. I find myself looking forward to watching the last 3 games and the BTT.

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Glad they won, I watched the first half and realized I didn't want to deal with the stress of watching the 2nd half.

[Reds Freak]

Good article and suggestions here about college basketball's end of game problems. The sport becomes mind-numbing with the reviews, fouls, and timeouts. Most games seem to push into the 2:15-2:30 mark now, which is insane. I'm on board for all Wolken's recommendations except for the last two, which he admits are more radical.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/college/columnist/dan-wolken/2025/02/27/mens-college-basketball-long-unwatchable-finish/80708810007/