2024 Cincinnati Bengals Part IV - What’s our draft position?

[KoryMac5]

Burrow makes that play happen...eyes always up field.

[Hillsdale87]

That was great pressure by Ossai. He's played well to close the season. I hope he's back next year.


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[KoryMac5]

DO not leave this up to Cade York...keep pushing

[LiferJim]

Omg. Run the ball.


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[The Operator]

Finally we don’t stop the clock for them


Have to have a TD here

[LiferJim]

Omg. Run the ball.


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Now run the ball and game over basically


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[The Operator]

Ughhhh we’re gonna leave this up to the kicking unit


And Chase Brown is hurt

[plantmanky]

BANN the DAMN SLIDE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Kingspoint]

BANN the DAMN SLIDE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Should have scored the TD. Can't rely on the Bengals' FG unit.

[The Operator]

And we let Denver keep a timeout

[Ky Fried Redleg]

I LOVE Chase Brown.

[Hillsdale87]

There's the QB sneak. Should have done that earlier


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[LiferJim]

Watching gamecast on ESPN. Why did we burn our last timeout?


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[Kingspoint]

Thank you.

I'd rather rely on the Defense to keep them from moving 70 yards with 1 timeout than to try a FG attempt.

[The Operator]

Did Burrow just execute a tush push?!?!!

TD Bengals!


Still way too much time left though

[LiferJim]

Watching gamecast on ESPN. Why did we burn our last timeout?


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Nevermind. Wooohoo! TD


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[plantmanky]

Watching gamecast on ESPN. Why did we burn our last timeout?


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Injury on Brown on stupid damn slide.

[Kingspoint]

Watching gamecast on ESPN. Why did we burn our last timeout?


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3rd down decision, if I remember.

[KoryMac5]

I don't agree with the announce team score the TD and make them go 75 yds to tie...

[RiverRat13]

I'd have taken two knees and kicked the FG with about 13 seconds left.

[dabvu2498]

I’ve never felt worse about a team I root for scoring a touchdown.

[The Operator]

24-17 Bengals

89 seconds left and Denver has a timeout

[Kingspoint]

3rd down decision, if I remember.

Sorry, I thought you were wondering about the one before that.

[Playadlc]

Bad move there. Run the clock and kick the FG.

[Kingspoint]

I’ve never felt worse about a team I root for scoring a touchdown.

Would you rather see a FG attempt with time left for Denver?

[Ky Fried Redleg]

Injury on Brown on stupid damn slide.

You're salty today. Lack of photosynthesis???

[LiferJim]

I'd have taken two knees and kicked the FG with about 13 seconds left.

Same here


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[KoryMac5]

I'd have taken two knees and kicked the FG with about 13 seconds left.

Too much bad mojo for me...botched snap, wide right etc...you name it it has happened to the Bengals

[LiferJim]

Too much bad mojo for me...botched snap, wide right etc...you name it it has happened to the Bengals

We shall see. Defense sucks


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[Playadlc]

Too much bad mojo for me...botched snap, wide right etc...you name it it has happened to the Bengals

Nah. It's really not close. The Bengals botched this.

Hope they can hang on.

[The Operator]

lol this defense is so terrible

[Hillsdale87]

I'd have taken two knees and kicked the FG with about 13 seconds left.

They could have if not for the injury timeout


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[Hillsdale87]

Well that about sums up the season


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[Ky Fried Redleg]

Bengals baby!!!! THIS SEASON...WOW!!!!

[The Operator]

Jesus tap dancing Christ

[Kingspoint]

Out of bounds before he secures it.

[CySeymour]

Is it just me or are these announcers actively rooting for Denver?

[RiverRat13]

I'd have taken two knees and kicked the FG with about 13 seconds left.

Watching the game on my phone. Didn't realize the Broncos had a timeout left so this wouldn't have worked.

[KoryMac5]

He's out of bounds...

[Hillsdale87]

If the Bengals had played for the field goal, Denver would have gotten the ball back with 50 seconds left, and they got into FG range in that time. There's no good options with this defense


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[dabvu2498]

Would you rather see a FG attempt with time left for Denver?

Yes

[Kingspoint]

If the call on the field was no TD, that would have stood, too.

[LiferJim]

Lmao. If they don’t fire this coaching staff, I may boycott next season


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[Kingspoint]

Yes

armchair quarterbacking

[Redsfan6272]

If Zac kicks one field goal, this game is a Bengals win ugh

[dabvu2498]

Watching the game on my phone. Didn't realize the Broncos had a timeout left so this wouldn't have worked.

It would’ve been about ~45 seconds and no TO.

[Ky Fried Redleg]

If there is a God in the Universe, he HATES the Cincinnati Bengals.

[RiverRat13]

I don't have audio but I'm assuming because Brown was hurt the Bengals were charged with their final timeout so the Broncos didn't have to use one?

[WrongVerb]

Out of bounds before he secures it.

That's what it looked like to me. If the Bengals lose this, it's going to go down in lore as another screw job by the NFL officials..

[dabvu2498]

armchair quarterbacking

I mean, what are any of us doing here??

JFC

[Kingspoint]

If the Bengals had played for the field goal, Denver would have gotten the ball back with 50 seconds left, and they got into FG range in that time. There's no good options with this defense


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and kicked the game-winning FG in regulation after the Bengals miss the FG attempt.

[Roy Tucker]

Bengals gonna Bengal.

[Kingspoint]

I mean, what are any of us doing here??

JFC

You're doing it after the fact.

[KoryMac5]

I don't have audio but I'm assuming because Brown was hurt the Bengals were charged with their final timeout so the Broncos didn't have to use one?

Yep he was not able to get off the field so injury timeout.

[The Operator]

Well at least we won the toss

[RiverRat13]

Brown going out of bounds on that first down catch and getting hurt on the first down carry is the difference. Without either one of those plays the Broncos would have been out of timeouts.

[Kingspoint]

It would’ve been about ~45 seconds and no TO.

and, DEN was in FG range having not used their TO, yet, in less than 45 seconds.

[dabvu2498]

You're doing it after the fact.


and kicked the game-winning FG in regulation after the Bengals miss the FG attempt.

[The Operator]

Having the ball at the 1 with 4 shots at the end zone and turning it over on downs came back to haunt us.


Shocker.

[KoryMac5]

Be interesting after the game to see what the call was there on the Burrow sneak.

[KoryMac5]

This O line...

[The Operator]

Back to back sacks.


Thats the ballgame

[LiferJim]

I despise losing, but if it means the demise of the coaching staff, consider it a win. We weren’t going anywhere anyway


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[Hillsdale87]

First punt of the game comes in OT. Crazy how we can't win these games


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[KoryMac5]

Defense has to get the stop here.

[Playadlc]

Scoring the TD was stupid. Should have kneeled it.

I will die on this hill.

[The Operator]

Hoooooo thank god


Bailed us out

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Where’s the flag?!??


These refs

[The Operator]

Gesicki!!!

[Ky Fried Redleg]

Gesicki's tough.

[The Operator]

Jesus Tee

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Tee redemption!!!

[LiferJim]

Lmao. This team is pathetic


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[Hillsdale87]

Well, that's why you don't play for the FG. Holy cow


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[plantmanky]

OMG!

[The Operator]

Hahahahaha

[Ky Fried Redleg]

We all knew that was gonna happen.

[KoryMac5]

and now u see why I have 0 faith in Cade York

[Kingspoint]

That's why you score the Touchdown!

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A tie and DEN clinches the playoffs.

[KoryMac5]

I hate this team...every single year Lucy pulls the football away.

[LiferJim]

Basically like a missed extra point. You can’t make this crap up.


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[KoryMac5]

Watch York hit a 60 yarder to win the game...

[The Operator]

Defense gets us another stop


And the clock stopped

[Ky Fried Redleg]

Being a Bengals fan has taken years off of my life.

[The Operator]

Punt takes a Bengal bounce

140 seconds left with no timeouts

[757690]

This is ugly. Regardless of the outcome of this game, neither team deserves to make the playoffs.

[LiferJim]

Being a Bengals fan has taken years off of my life.

lol. Yea, I’m 62 going on 90


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[The Operator]

Being a Bengals fan has taken years off of my life.

Same. Combine that with The Reds and it’s borderline cruel and usual punishment.

[Ky Fried Redleg]

lol. Yea, I’m 62 going on 90


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The Bengals have made me feel this old:

https://media.gq.com/photos/565c619649ad37bf7816123a/master/pass/richards-sq.jpg

[The Operator]

Tee!!!!

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Oh here we go they’re gonna take it away

[Kingspoint]

Pay the Man!

[The Operator]

Ruling stands!!!!

[LiferJim]

The Bengals have made me feel this old:

https://media.gq.com/photos/565c619649ad37bf7816123a/master/pass/richards-sq.jpg

[emoji23] Keith may never die

Bengals win!!’


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[The Operator]

TEE!!!!!

Bengals win and stay alive!!!!

[Ky Fried Redleg]

If we could have only beaten New England, dammit.

[Kingspoint]

Pay

The

Man!!!

[plantmanky]

If this was Higgins last home game as a Bengal......Thank you Higgins, its been awesome to watch, good luck to you.







If you can resign as a Bengal it would be much appreciated, but go get yours, you earned it.

[UKFlounder]

Well that was……something.

LOL.

Just wow

[Hillsdale87]

Well, that was fun. And the Bengals not kicking a FG from the 3 is hilarious, but the right call.


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[UKFlounder]

If we could have only beaten New England, dammit.

Or one Baltimore game or the Chargers game….

[Kingspoint]

Higgins is going to get $120M/4yrs from someone.

Chase is going to cost $140M/4yrs.

[The Operator]

Of the Bengals beat New England and even win one of those games where they had two score leads against Baltimore… it’s just, man it’s painful… still not dead yet though.


These 0-2 and 0-3 starts have to stop.

[KoryMac5]

From literally hiding out in my daughters room during the FG to the high of watching Higgins score the TD while hugging and high fiving the wife...

[Kingspoint]

Well, that was fun. And the Bengals not kicking a FG from the 3 is hilarious, but the right call.


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...and they had to make that decision several times, including the game-winner.

[KoryMac5]

How bout Herbert at the end with some great runs...that pitch play from Burrow was awesome!

[Ky Fried Redleg]

Or one Baltimore game or the Chargers game….

YEP. SO frustrating!!! The NE loss, though, is inexcusable.

[Kingspoint]

From literally hiding out in my daughters room during the FG to the high of watching Higgins score the TD while hugging and high fiving the wife...

I accidentally changed the channel when the last play began.

[Ky Fried Redleg]

How bout Herbert at the end with some great runs...that pitch play from Burrow was awesome!

Herbert ran very well.

[Kingspoint]

Burrow with a 122.1 QB rating in spite of pressure from every angle the entire game.

[KoryMac5]

For as much as Denver is paying Sean Payton I thought he got super conservative in OT...

[Kingspoint]

Herbert ran very well.

Yes. Was hoping to get that from Moss.

[The Operator]

My daughter got on me during the first half about wanting me to wear a new Bengals shirt she picked out for me for Christmas. I told her “You got it… I’ll put it on as my halftime adjustment” and I did.


So I guess I know what shirt I’ll be wearing next week.

[Kingspoint]

For as much as Denver is paying Sean Payton I thought he got super conservative in OT...

I think he was going for the Tie. Underestimated how good Joe Cool is.

[The Operator]

For as much as Denver is paying Sean Payton I thought he got super conservative in OT...

Certainly seemed like they were playing not to lose.

[Ky Fried Redleg]

Of the Bengals beat New England and even win one of those games where they had two score leads against Baltimore… it’s just, man it’s painful… still not dead yet though.


These 0-2 and 0-3 starts have to stop.

The 0-2 and 0-3 starts are getting to be fireable offenses, as far as I'm concerned.

[Redsfan6272]

What a roller coaster of emotions. Tee Higgins made so many unbelievable catches. Especially the last 2. Wow

[Ky Fried Redleg]

Certainly seemed like they were playing not to lose.

And we all know how that usually turns out.

[The Operator]

The 0-2 and 0-3 starts are getting to be fireable offenses, as far as I'm concerned.

Agreed.

Your QB has 42 TD’s and your WR1 is doing ungodly things. And you’re 8-8 while needing help to have a shot at the playoffs.


Something has to change.

[Ky Fried Redleg]

Burrow with a 122.1 QB rating in spite of pressure from every angle the entire game.

Can you imagine what JB would do if h never had to worry about being pressured? Good gracious.

[The Operator]

Can you imagine what JB would do if h never had to worry about being pressured? Good gracious.

And what’s sad is this is probably the best line Joe’s had in his career.

Only possible rival would be 2022 before Karras and Cappa and the other guy, forget his name, all went down leaving them with basically the same line as the year before.

Did well in the game against Buffalo, though.

[KoryMac5]

This offseason is going to be one of choices that will really determine what the Bengals do the next 5 years

resign Tee to me is a must
resign Hill and Hilton
extend Chase and Higgins
extend Hendrickson

Find 2 Guards in the draft...plus another competent safety and perhaps a corner. Plus you need another DT and a pass rusher...

[KoryMac5]

Denver has 6 yds in the overtime...

[Reds Freak]

Or one Baltimore game or the Chargers game….


Agreed.

Your QB has 42 TD’s and your WR1 is doing ungodly things. And you’re 8-8 while needing help to have a shot at the playoffs.


Something has to change.

My prediction is everything else goes right for the Bengals to make the playoffs next week, except they lose to the Steelers on a last second FG.

[KoryMac5]

My prediction is everything else goes right for the Bengals to make the playoffs next week, except they lose to the Steelers on a last second FG.

I think that one was on the bingo card years ago if I remember correctly botched snap vs the Broncos

[westofyou]

Football exhausts me, being a baseball fan vs football fan is like listening to the dead vs Rage Against the Machine

Fifty years of Bengals fandom and I'm an addled fool

[Reds Freak]

I think that one was on the bingo card years ago if I remember correctly botched snap vs the Broncos

IIRC, that was the second to last game. Bengals could have made the playoffs even after that with a win at home against Pitt and a few other things happening. The few other things happened, but Shayne Graham missed a routine game winning FG in regulation and Pitt scored on the first play of OT.

At least that's the way I remember it.

[Boss-Hog]

IIRC, that was the second to last game. Bengals could have made the playoffs even after that with a win at home against Pitt and a few other things happening. The few other things happened, but Shayne Graham missed a routine game winning FG in regulation and Pitt scored on the first play of OT.

At least that's the way I remember it.This is all correct, and the year was 2006. The Bengals just needed one more win to make the playoffs, but they lost to the Colts, Broncos and Steelers to end the season with the latter two in excruciating fashion.

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Joe's pretty good.

Btw, the Bengals chances of making the playoffs literally decreased by 1% in the last five minutes(from 11.3 to 10.3). I have no idea why .


Edit: Now we're back up to 12.1% chance of making playoffs.

[The Operator]

This is all correct, and the year was 2006. The Bengals just needed one more win to make the playoffs, but they lost to the Colts, Broncos and Steelers to end the season with the latter two in excruciating fashion.

I can still remember Santonio Holmes just streaking down the field, obviously going to the house.


It was so excruciating.

[westofyou]

I can still remember Santonio Holmes just streaking down the field, obviously going to the house.


It was so excruciating.

It was as we say.. 'Bengalriffic"

[Redsfaithful]

Joe Burrow is something else.

[Stray]

Burrow won that game three times and carved up a very good defense. Dude is on another level right now.

[RiverRat13]

Joe Burrow is something else.

Three game winning drives in one game!

[LiferJim]

Unfortunately Denver is going to beat KC, as the Chiefs have nothing to play for and I’m sure KC with much rather possibly face Denver in the playoffs, than Joe Burrow.


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[Stray]

Unfortunately Denver is going to beat KC, as the Chiefs have nothing to play for and I’m sure KC with much rather possibly face Denver in the playoffs, than Joe Burrow.


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It'll be backups, but they'll play to win. Reid isn't gonna tank on account of us.

[texasdave]

There is a possiblity of five teams ending the season at 9-8. It will take A! and a Ouija Board to figure out who gets in.

[Boss-Hog]

Unfortunately Denver is going to beat KC, as the Chiefs have nothing to play for and I’m sure KC with much rather possibly face Denver in the playoffs, than Joe Burrow.


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkKC has a bye, and whoever gets the last seed will play at Buffalo, not KC. It's still pretty unlikely on top of the other three things the Bengals need, but you don't need to worry about that aspect.

[Tuff Nut]

Unfortunately Denver is going to beat KC, as the Chiefs have nothing to play for and I’m sure KC with much rather possibly face Denver in the playoffs, than Joe Burrow.


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Denver first has to make the playoffs, then win the wildcard game. KC has the bye. No guarantee the 2 face each other in playoffs.

[LiferJim]

Denver first has to make the playoffs, then win the wildcard game. KC has the bye. No guarantee the 2 face each other in playoffs.

Yes I understand that, but I'd be willing to bet, if given the choice, KC would much rather play Denver at some point, than a team with Joe Burrow.

They may not tank, but sitting your starters doesn't bode well for a KC win. The Bengals only have themselves to blame anyway.

[pedro]

Here’s what burns me. If you don’t want Brown to score why even hand the ball off to him? Why not take the knee and force them to burn a time out? It’s just reckless and now he’s hurt.

[The Operator]

One theory I saw yesterday is that KC possibly might prefer if the Bengals made it over Denver, that way there would be a better chance of Buffalo getting knocked off in the first round.

I’m not sure we would actually stand any better chance of knocking off Buffalo or not, but it’s an interesting theory. The Bengals dominated the 2022 playoff game in Buffalo and then we beat them again last year, but this defense? Josh Allen might put up 50. Although you never know… sometimes the D turns in surprising performances against good competition.

[The Operator]

Here’s what burns me. If you don’t want Brown to score why even hand the ball off to him? Why not take the knee and force them to burn a time out? It’s just reckless and now he’s hurt.

Yea, that series is a pretty bad indictment on the coaching staff, unless there’s something we don’t know.

If you’re gonna run down the clock and kick the field goal, they absolutely should have kneed it. Now, did Chase Brown do that on his own, maybe? I doubt it, but who knows. Could Burrow have made the decision in the huddle to “Screw it, let’s score a TD”? Maybe.

Would love to know what all went into that sequence of events but we probably never will.

[Fil3232]

You can find out what happened by reading or listening to Taylor’s press conference

[KoryMac5]

Bengals need Colts and Miami to lose one of their last 2 games against weak opponents...beat Pitts and hope Denver lays an egg against KC.

[pedro]

Yea, that series is a pretty bad indictment on the coaching staff, unless there’s something we don’t know.

If you’re gonna run down the clock and kick the field goal, they absolutely should have kneed it. Now, did Chase Brown do that on his own, maybe? I doubt it, but who knows. Could Burrow have made the decision in the huddle to “Screw it, let’s score a TD”? Maybe.

Would love to know what all went into that sequence of events but we probably never will.

They could have also kneeled on 1st and 2nd, tried a run on 3rd and then kicked a FG if they didn’t score a touchdown. I just don’t get it.

[Fil3232]

No reason to run on 3rd down if you kneel on 1st and 2nd. Thats essentially the same as running on 1st down to the 1 and kneeling on 2nd and 3rd, which is what they were going to do.

The Brown injury changed the calculus because of the timeout charged.

[UKFlounder]

They could have also kneeled on 1st and 2nd, tried a run on 3rd and then kicked a FG if they didn’t score a touchdown. I just don’t get it.

Or at least “tried” a field goal on third down, LOL.

This offense needs to score TD and rely less on kicking. Thru finally did so to their credit (supposedly the first offensive TD in OT in franchise history.)

[KoryMac5]

Yea, that series is a pretty bad indictment on the coaching staff, unless there’s something we don’t know.

If you’re gonna run down the clock and kick the field goal, they absolutely should have kneed it. Now, did Chase Brown do that on his own, maybe? I doubt it, but who knows. Could Burrow have made the decision in the huddle to “Screw it, let’s score a TD”? Maybe.

Would love to know what all went into that sequence of events but we probably never will.

Taylor said after the game they were going to kick it with about 10 seconds left...Brown was ordered to go down and did at the one, unfortunately he sprains the ankle which causes the injury timeout. That changed everything in regards to time.


“The injury changed everything,” Taylor said.

Now with second-and-goal at the 1 and 1:31 left Taylor was left with new math. He could take two knees and run the clock down to about 40 seconds remaining with a three-point lead. He could take a knee on second down and try to score on third, thus forcing Denver to burn its final timeout. Or he could just try to score on second down, ensuring they get the touchdown.

“Yeah, you can down it and make sure they use their timeout and then try to score a touchdown from there on third down and maybe try to kick if on fourth but it’s just — you saw our low red zone against them — it’s tough all day,” Taylor said.



He specifically stated he did not consider taking three knees.


“No,” Taylor said. “We were just going to keep running the ball and try to get what we could and try to get down there. There is going to be a lot we can talk about that we felt good about our decision there just to get down to the 1. You are never assuming there is going to be an injury. That’s not what you are factoring in. You are trying to get as close as possible to keep all options on the table. Our math said there was going to be around 10 seconds to kick the walk-off and then the injury immediately changed everything. You have to pivot and have a whole other conversation.”

I think the other thing we are missing here is Brown getting pushed out of bounds and the incompletion on the next play is what really sets up Denver...the injury timeout was just awful luck. It's an interesting debate I know I was for scoring the TD there than Denver scores and I felt rather dumb for that stance and then vindicated a bit when York missed. The emotions of a Bengals fan...

[Tuff Nut]

Could the Bengals elected for the 10 second run-off, instead of using their TO, or did that not apply here?

[pedro]

No reason to run on 3rd down if you kneel on 1st and 2nd. Thats essentially the same as running on 1st down to the 1 and kneeling on 2nd and 3rd, which is what they were going to do.

The Brown injury changed the calculus because of the timeout charged.

It’s not though because if they ran on 3rd there might have been less than 30 seconds left and they wouldn’t have felt compelled to pull up short of goalie and slide.

[Fil3232]

They also might’ve fumbled or committed a penalty, or Brown gets injured. Same as on first down.

Anyway, I’m glad the Bengals won. What an emotional rollercoaster.

[texasdave]

Giants are up 21-6 on the Colts in the 2nd quarter.

[Sea Ray]

Giants are up 21-6 on the Colts in the 2nd quarter.

Giants just returned a KO for a TD to start the second half


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[LiferJim]

Giants are up 21-6 on the Colts in the 2nd quarter.

Now 28-13 in start of 4th quarter


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[pedro]

They also might’ve fumbled or committed a penalty, or Brown gets injured. Same as on first down.

Anyway, I’m glad the Bengals won. What an emotional rollercoaster.

To be clear, I'd probably have kneeled 3 times and kicked the FG

[KoryMac5]

Big play by the Giants stuffing Taylor on 4th and 1...28-20 Gmen.

[texasdave]

No defense is being played at the Meadowlands today. Giants up 35-33 with about 7 minutes left in the game. Colts will be kicking off to New York.


Step one - Colts lose. They trail 45-33 with 2 minutes to go. Check that one off of the list.

[Redsfaithful]

Colts loss bumps the Bengals to 22% according to New York Times playoff simulator.

[Reds Freak]

I don't think the second game is gonna go the Bengals way. Browns couldn't score a touchdown against a peewee team.

[The Operator]

Yeesh the Browns are bad.

[Kingspoint]

Burrow won that game three times and carved up a very good defense. Dude is on another level right now.

Sam Darnold had his career best game today for the 13-3 Vikings. Burrow's floor every week is what Darnold did today.

[Sea Ray]

To be clear, I'd probably have kneeled 3 times and kicked the FG

I doubt they could have burned all the time off the clock. There was 1:39 on the clock as the Bengals were on the 6 yard line. Denver had 2 timeouts left. That only leaves one play where you can burn 40 seconds off the clock. Furthermore York sucks. Ya don’t wanna put winning and losing on him

There were two things that screwed the Bengals here, both out of their control

1) Clock stoppage due to Brown’s injury. This saved a Denver TO

2) The Hail Mary that Bo Nix threw up on 4th down with 14 seconds left, no timeouts on the Bengals’ 31. That was totally luck. Desperation heave.


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[Tuff Nut]

Sam Darnold had his career best game today for the 13-3 Vikings. Burrow's floor every week is what Darnold did today.

Vikings are 14-2.

[Stray]

Yeesh the Browns are bad.

Dorian Thompson-Robinson's line today

- 24/47 (51%)
- 170 Yards
- 1 INT
- 1 Fumble
- 3 intentional grounding penalties
- 50.8 Rating

Masterclass in tanking.

[RiverRat13]

Dorian Thompson-Robinson's line today

- 24/47 (51%)
- 170 Yards
- 1 INT
- 1 Fumble
- 3 intentional grounding penalties
- 50.8 Rating

Masterclass in tanking.

I thought Ryan Finley was one heckuva tank commander but DTR is basically General George S. Patton.

[Ky Fried Redleg]

One theory I saw yesterday is that KC possibly might prefer if the Bengals made it over Denver, that way there would be a better chance of Buffalo getting knocked off in the first round.

I’m not sure we would actually stand any better chance of knocking off Buffalo or not, but it’s an interesting theory. The Bengals dominated the 2022 playoff game in Buffalo and then we beat them again last year, but this defense? Josh Allen might put up 50. Although you never know… sometimes the D turns in surprising performances against good competition.



Joe Burrow, Jamaar Chase, Tee Higgins...no one wants to see that trio come to town in the playoffs. Not Buffalo, not KC, not anyone. Yes, our defense is dreadful. But even with a dreadful defense... Burrow is Danger City for any opponent.

[pedro]

Chances for playoffs seem pretty grim at this point, even if they can beat the Steelers, which is no easy task, even as poorly as the Steelers are playing.

[Kingspoint]

Chances for playoffs seem pretty grim at this point, even if they can beat the Steelers, which is no easy task, even as poorly as the Steelers are playing.

When the Chiefs beat the Steelers, I accepted the fact that the season was over, though there were still two games to play for pride.

[WVRed]

It'll be backups, but they'll play to win. Reid isn't gonna tank on account of us.I really don't understand this tanking talk to keep the Bengals out.

If Denver wins, they go to Buffalo where their season will likely end.

That said, KCs only loss this season has been to Buffalo. If the Bengals get in and they go to Buffalo, with Burrow anything can happen. The Bengals could likely win a shootout. As the lowest seed though they would go to KC the following week if that happened.

I would be pulling for Cincy to get in to possibly take out the top competition but we live rent free in the Chiefs fans heads.

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[WVRed]

Both AFC North games moved to Saturday.

Ravens Browns at 4:30

Steelers Bengals at 8

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[Sea Ray]

Both AFC North games moved to Saturday.

Ravens Browns at 4:30

Steelers Bengals at 8

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Do the Steelers care about this game?

[WVRed]

Do the Steelers care about this game?Probably depends on what happens in the 4:30 game.

Even then seeding is a factor.

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[Sea Ray]

Probably depends on what happens in the 4:30 game.

Even then seeding is a factor.

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True but I don't see Cleveland beating anyone. They're in full tank mode

[WVRed]

True but I don't see Cleveland beating anyone. They're in full tank modeSeeding will be in play though.

If the Steelers lose and the Chargers win, the Steelers have to go back to Baltimore where they lost already and the Ravens are hot.

If they win they go to Houston which would be the more winnable game.

I don't see the Steelers pulling starters since they can still control where they go.

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[Sea Ray]

Seeding will be in play though.

If the Steelers lose and the Chargers win, the Steelers have to go back to Baltimore where they lost already and the Ravens are hot.

If they win they go to Houston which would be the more winnable game.

I don't see the Steelers pulling starters since they can still control where they go.

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I agree...plus the Steelers don't tank, even for a game

[bucksfan2]

I agree...plus the Steelers don't tank, even for a game

I don't think the Steelers are that good of a football team. Good, solid team, and I think Tomlin is a good enough coach to get them to the point they are now, but does anyone fear them in the playoffs? I think the 430 game will tell the Steelers all they need to know about the value of the Bengals game. FWIW Justin Fields may provide more issues for the Bengals that Russ.

I saw an early line Bengals -3 and the Dolphins -2.5. But the Bronco's are -9.5, woof. If you are going all conspiracy theory, I would imagine the NFL wants to see the Bengals in the playoffs over the Dolphins and Broncos, so there is that....

[Redsfaithful]

Super unlikely they'll get in, but after 1-4 and 4-8 it's pretty cool that they are still alive in week 18. I hope we get the opportunity to watch the Broncos/Chiefs and Dolphins games on Sunday with a rooting interest.

[Sea Ray]

Super unlikely they'll get in, but after 1-4 and 4-8 it's pretty cool that they are still alive in week 18. I hope we get the opportunity to watch the Broncos/Chiefs and Dolphins games on Sunday with a rooting interest.

Exactly right. We have entertainment on Sat night. After the way we started, we'll take it. As a fan, I just don't wanna drop out due to a loss to Pitt. If another team drops us, so be it.

When it comes time to discuss next year, we oughta start with an insistence that they play better in Sept. Something drastic has got to change on that front

[kaldaniels]

I don't think the Steelers are that good of a football team. Good, solid team, and I think Tomlin is a good enough coach to get them to the point they are now, but does anyone fear them in the playoffs? I think the 430 game will tell the Steelers all they need to know about the value of the Bengals game. FWIW Justin Fields may provide more issues for the Bengals that Russ.

I saw an early line Bengals -3 and the Dolphins -2.5. But the Bronco's are -9.5, woof. If you are going all conspiracy theory, I would imagine the NFL wants to see the Bengals in the playoffs over the Dolphins and Broncos, so there is that....

I like what you are thinking there but you need to add another layer of tinfoil. The NFL’s main goal is having the Chiefs (Swifts) in the Super Bowl again and the Bengals have a lot of potential to be a roadblock there. Enjoy the offseason.

[WVRed]

If the Bengals would ever move on from Zac id love to see Ben Johnson.

Know it won't happen but the creativity of Detroit's offense and how he's made Jared Goff into a franchise QB. Just imagine him with Burrow.

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[KoryMac5]

Rankins placed on NFI been. Source of frustration for the organization they had hope he oiled return however he is till experiencing symptoms. Fully expect him to be elsewhere in 2025. Has to be up there with Wayne’s and Bryant as biggest FA busts of all time.

[Kingspoint]

Morrison also insinuates that with today’s designation comes the assumption that Rankins will not be in Cincinnati next season. Morrison claims that Rankins will “be playing for his fourth team in four years in 2025” and that the Bengals will end up saving$7.5MM by cutting him. His claim references the $2MM of dead money and $9.5MM of cap savings tied to Rankins’ contract should he be cut after only one year.

As an insider with Cincinnati, Morrison’s reporting delivers the sentiment that there is lots of frustration with Rankins in the building. There seems to be a feeling that Rankins has forced the team’s hand, and his actions will cost him a roster spot next season. After missing that much time, many have questioned why he’s just now being placed on an injured list. Per Jay Morrison of Sports Illustrated, “no one expected it to last this long.” Rankins has been “self-reporting symptoms” of an illness that has kept him out for nearly two months, and the Bengals’ hands have been tied in regard to his ability to play.

https://www.profootballrumors.com/2024/12/bengals-place-dt-sheldon-rankins-on-nfi-list

[Kingspoint]

Washington broke up its Alabama trio at defensive tackle over the weekend, activating Jonathan Allen from IR and cutting Phidarian Mathis. This decision generated interest around the league. The young D-lineman is heading to the Jets. They are far from the only team to make a play for the former second-round pick, who has another season remaining on his rookie contract. The Bengals, Lions and Texans also stepped in with waiver claims for Mathis.

[KoryMac5]

If the Bengals would ever move on from Zac id love to see Ben Johnson.

Know it won't happen but the creativity of Detroit's offense and how he's made Jared Goff into a franchise QB. Just imagine him with Burrow.

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I don’t see it happening they are 5th in the league in offense with Taylor, Detroit is 4th with Johnson. I can’t see them going with a rookie HC after Taylor, plus Mike Brown believes in continuity with coaching. The other factor Joe likes Taylor…

[Redsfaithful]

Zac Taylor has at least another decade ahead of him as Bengals HC, it really is pointless to speculate on a head coaching change. Energy is better spent praying he's still growing and learning as a coach.

[Sea Ray]

If the Bengals would ever move on from Zac id love to see Ben Johnson.

Know it won't happen but the creativity of Detroit's offense and how he's made Jared Goff into a franchise QB. Just imagine him with Burrow.

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We already have one of the best offenses in the league. If we can’t do better on defense Ben Johnson would still be 8-8 with this team


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[Sea Ray]

Washington broke up its Alabama trio at defensive tackle over the weekend, activating Jonathan Allen from IR and cutting Phidarian Mathis. This decision generated interest around the league. The young D-lineman is heading to the Jets. They are far from the only team to make a play for the former second-round pick, who has another season remaining on his rookie contract. The Bengals, Lions and Texans also stepped in with waiver claims for Mathis.

DJ Reader has not had a stellar season with Detroit either


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[Kingspoint]

Late last month, a report on the respective futures of Giants general manager Joe Schoen and head coach Brian Daboll indicated that both men were likely to retain their jobs for the 2025 season. However, Sam Robinson noted at the time that owner John Mara’s history with such matters would suggest Schoen is safer than Daboll, and multiple outlets have confirmed that the GM and HC are not a “package deal.”

The Giants can't solve their QB problem since Eli Manning was in his last two seasons with the club. The best thing they could do was replace Daboll with Pete Carroll. Carroll is a QB guru. He's also the one responsible for turning Drew Lock into what he was yesterday, a 350-yd, 4TD passer on a team that had only averaged 10 pts per game in their first 8 home contests this season. They got 42+ yesterday. A Pete Carroll coached Offense that would have both Drew Lock and a 2025 Rookie QB (not necessarily a 1st Rd QB), along with a possible 3rd QB to compete for the Starting job, is the setup that Carroll used twice in Seatttle and it worked wonderfully both times. There's several young QB's that teams are giving up on and definitely placed into the Starting QB position too soon, thus ruining their chances to get their careers off to good starts. The QB that can perform well his rookie season is a rare human being, even with the rules against hitting the QB or touching the WR.

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DJ Reader has not had a stellar season with Detroit either


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18 tackles coming into this game tonight.

[Kingspoint]

TEN's EDGE was mocked to CIN w/ the #16 pick from the FS1 Sports crew.

[RichRed]

Washington broke up its Alabama trio at defensive tackle over the weekend, activating Jonathan Allen from IR and cutting Phidarian Mathis. This decision generated interest around the league. The young D-lineman is heading to the Jets. They are far from the only team to make a play for the former second-round pick, who has another season remaining on his rookie contract. The Bengals, Lions and Texans also stepped in with waiver claims for Mathis.

PFF has Mathis ranked dead last among interior D-linemen. At 26, he could still improve but so far, he’s looking like another Rivera-era failed draft pick.

[Redsfaithful]

Here we go, shots fired:

https://x.com/ByJayMorrison/status/1874183407829410105


Burrow: You don’t want to make a living out of letting great players walk away. That’s why you try to get those deals done early.

[RiverRat13]

Here we go, shots fired:

https://x.com/ByJayMorrison/status/1874183407829410105

Good.

There's nobody on this roster worth paying but the two WRs, anyway.

[Fil3232]

Zac Taylor has at least another decade ahead of him as Bengals HC, it really is pointless to speculate on a head coaching change. Energy is better spent praying he's still growing and learning as a coach.

I agree, with one big caveat—if Burrow ever demanded a change, I believe they would make one. But we see Burrow making overtures at the Front Office, not Taylor to this point. So I think that’s noteworthy.

And to whether Taylor will grow and evolve, I think he absolutely will. The guy doesn’t seem to have a big ego standing in the way of it. Hell, looking at the offensive philosophy we’ve already seen it.

The big question is what they’ll do with the DC spot. Has Lou saved his job? Should he come back? If not, who can come in and make a legitimate impact, because Taylor isn’t going to ever be super hands-on with that side of the team.

[KoryMac5]

I agree, with one big caveat—if Burrow ever demanded a change, I believe they would make one. But we see Burrow making overtures at the Front Office, not Taylor to this point. So I think that’s noteworthy.

And to whether Taylor will grow and evolve, I think he absolutely will. The guy doesn’t seem to have a big ego standing in the way of it. Hell, looking at the offensive philosophy we’ve already seen it.

The big question is what they’ll do with the DC spot. Has Lou saved his job? Should he come back? If not, who can come in and make a legitimate impact, because Taylor isn’t going to ever be super hands-on with that side of the team.

DC is an interesting spot Dennis Allen was Taylor’s choice before pivoting to Lou. To me Lou has to come up big on Saturday versus Pittsburgh.

[UKFlounder]

Good.

There's nobody on this roster worth paying but the two WRs, anyway.

He's getting older, but Hendrickson probably deserves some money too. They have nobody ready to replace him and might draft DL as poorly as they do OL

[WrongVerb]

Good.

There's nobody on this roster worth paying but the two WRs, anyway.

Hendrickson. But aside from that, your point stands.

[WrongVerb]

In my mind, Lou is gone the Monday following the Bengals final game this season.

[Hillsdale87]

DC is an interesting spot Dennis Allen was Taylor’s choice before pivoting to Lou. To me Lou has to come up big on Saturday versus Pittsburgh.

Dennis Allen would be a home run hire IMO


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[Kingspoint]

PFF has Mathis ranked dead last among interior D-linemen. At 26, he could still improve but so far, he’s looking like another Rivera-era failed draft pick.

:eek:

[WVRed]

Looking ahead:

Schedule looks a LOT easier based on this year. As long as they take care of business at home. Lions, Bills, Packers or Vikings could be prime time matchups not counting Steelers or Ravens.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20250101/ae4471e1d797e4d019bf3f7a52939525.jpg

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[WrongVerb]

I can see them going 7-2 at home, and, at best, 4-5 on the road.

[Redhook]

After the Bengals win on Saturday night, should I wear my Burrow jersey to the Broncos/Chiefs game on Sunday? :D

[KoryMac5]

Nice piece via Bleacher Report and Albert Breer on Burrow checking into an option play to Herbert that gained 13 yds. It was a play that caught my eye as the TV camera panned from Denver's defensive alignment to Burrow bringing Herbert in close to check to that play.


"[Burrow's] awareness to get to a play like that just shows his next-level thinking," Taylor said, per Sports Illustrated's Albert Breer. "It's just unbelievable that a play we don't rep, it's for one look only, he got the look in the most critical point in the season and checked to it. … It's just unbelievable the way his brain works."

With two minutes remaining in overtime and the ball at Denver's 47-yard line, Burrow pitched the ball to running back Khalil Herbert. Herbert picked up 13 yards, moving the chains and helping set Cincinnati up for the game-winning touchdown.


"The season's on the line—we're putting the ball in his hands," Taylor explained, per Breer. "He checked to a speed option. I think we walked through that play one time. And he checked to the speed option in overtime, versus a double-A look. We talked about it, but he got to it to Khalil Herbert, who's had how many carries? Maybe 10 on the season."

The other interesting bit from the game Pitcher, Burrow, and Higgins/Chase drew up the winning play at some point during the 3rd quarter...


“From my understanding, this, actually, was not in the Bengals playbook — they didn’t have it, they ran out of low red-zone plays,” Rapoport said on NFL Network. “So, in the third quarter, right after the field goal, Dan Pitcher, the [offensive coordinator], Joe Burrow and the receivers got together, drew up this play [and it] ended up resulting in the game-winning touchdown.”

[Kingspoint]

I can see them going 7-2 at home, and, at best, 4-5 on the road.

Based on this year's results, maybe they go 0-8 on the Road. I think most teams would go 2-6 on the road with these games.

[Kingspoint]

New England publicly announcing that they're all-in on signing Tee Higgins assures that the Bengals will not come close to offering within 20% of what New England will.

Thank you, Tee. Wish it wasn't the end of the line. Makes no sense to me.

[Kingspoint]

Mike Hilton Wants To Re-Sign With Bengals

January 2nd, 2025 at 10:34am CST by Adam La Rose

For the past four seasons, Mike Hilton has been a regular presence in the Bengals’ secondary. The pending free agent is looking to continue his career, but it remains to be seen if that will happen in Cincinnati.

“I’ve been here for a long time and really watched this place change a lot,” Hilton said (via Sports Illustrated’s Jay Morrison). “Obviously I would love to finish my career here. But the nature of the business is you never know. When that time comes, we’ll figure it out.”

https://www.profootballrumors.com/2025/01/mike-hilton-wants-to-re-sign-with-bengals

[WrongVerb]

New England publicly announcing that they're all-in on signing Tee Higgins assures that the Bengals will not come close to offering within 20% of what New England will.

Thank you, Tee. Wish it wasn't the end of the line. Makes no sense to me.

The Bengals can tag Higgins again. Then they could trade him to NE, who in turn signs him to a LTC.

[KoryMac5]

The Bengals need to come close on an offer for Tee...I think they will. If he wanted to just go to the highest bidder he would have kept his old agent...catching passes from Burrow does matter.

[Ky Fried Redleg]

I don't think any Bengals fan would trade Joe Burrow for any player in the NFL, nor should they. But what about any two players(on the same team)? Is there a 2 for 1 deal that you would consider trading away Joe Burrow? A friend of mine suggested Justin Herbert/Joey Bosa from the Chargers. I said, "No, thanks."

[WrongVerb]

Burrow is a NFL championship caliber quarterback. There's about 20 people in north America who can lay claim to that. You don't give that up for anything.

[KoryMac5]

Burton will not travel with the team to Piits due to a coaching decision. Read into that what you will, I am thinking another missed or late practice.

[The Operator]

From Reddit. Jermaine Burton is being evicted from his apartment near the stadium. This young man needs help. I’ve gone from being annoyed about the wasted draft pick to simply concerned about his well being at this point.

He’s been given an opportunity many of us would kill for and can’t do basic things like show up for meetings on time. He’s making NFL money and hasn’t paid his rent in so long that he’s being evicted. This is after being spotted at casinos multiple times before and after games.


Get this kid some help. He’s not well.

[Redhook]

From Reddit. Jermaine Burton is being evicted from his apartment near the stadium. This young man needs help. I’ve gone from being annoyed about the wasted draft pick to simply concerned about his well being at this point.

He’s been given an opportunity many of us would kill for and can’t do basic things like show up for meetings on time. He’s making NFL money and hasn’t paid his rent in so long that he’s being evicted. This is after being spotted at casinos multiple times before and after games.


Get this kid some help. He’s not well.

I wonder if he has a history of depression or anything else mentally related. If he doesn’t, then he’s really pissing away an incredible opportunity with idiotic and lazy decisions.

[Kingspoint]

The Bengals can tag Higgins again. Then they could trade him to NE, who in turn signs him to a LTC.

Have they ever done that?

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Burton will not travel with the team to Piits due to a coaching decision. Read into that what you will, I am thinking another missed or late practice.

Move on from the guy.

This is what you want to go to from Tee?

And, stop taking advice from Housh.

[WrongVerb]

I wonder if he has a history of depression or anything else mentally related. If he doesn’t, then he’s really pissing away an incredible opportunity with idiotic and lazy decisions.

That's a good point about depression. Undiagnosed and untreated depression can lead to erratic behavior, and even gambling addiction.

[UKFlounder]

I wonder if the “scouting department” did anything at all except look at game video. Did they talk to him or his coaches? They were awfully excited when they took him.

This was only a couple years after they wasted a high pick,on Carmen. They can’t let- throwing away such picks

[plantmanky]

$2500 is only about 1 months rent, so it has to be more than just missed rent payments.

[KoryMac5]

$2500 is only about 1 months rent, so it has to be more than just missed rent payments.

Rumors swirling it’s missed practices and an assault investigation nothing confirmed

[Tony Cloninger]

You can’t spend money on more scouts to do this type of work. While not wanting to get ahead of most contracts besides Joe B. While trusting ex players to couch for Jackson Carmen and now this guy. Just a stupid organization that could not diversify its only asset since 1968.

All the best to whoever he’s accused of assaulting. If true.

[KoryMac5]

You can’t spend money on more scouts to do this type of work. While not wanting to get ahead of most contracts besides Joe B. While trusting ex players to couch for Jackson Carmen and now this guy. Just a stupid organization that could not diversify its only asset since 1968.

All the best to whoever he’s accused of assaulting. If true.

X is a bit of a cesspool since Elon took over so I take the rumor with a grain of salt until confirmed. But I do think the Bengals could use a bit of an augmentation to the FO, a cap expert would be a nice addition as would more college scouts. You can't have coaches pulling double duty like the Bengals have been doing and expect to draft well especially in the mid to later rounds.

[WrongVerb]

Nm

[KoryMac5]

Chase Brown is out...huge blow for chances tonight but a good look at Herbert who I think is a bit more physical for Pitts.

[Sea Ray]

Pittsburgh is definitely more healthy than we are tonight


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[KoryMac5]

This might be the worst line Burrow has had in years...Ford and Volson both in.

[KoryMac5]

Burrow is on a freaking roll right now...TD Chase!

[The Operator]

Chase!!!!

Gorgeous opening drive!

[Roy Tucker]

It’s a sin that Burrow and Chase play on such a suck team.

[The Operator]

TD #43 for Burrow, as he continues to smash his own franchise record.

[KoryMac5]

Oh Cade York...

[Roy Tucker]

What kind of kickoff was that?

[KoryMac5]

Defense has been a lot better the last 3-4 weeks...Hendrickson with 15 sacks would be nice to get another yr or 2 ext done with him.

[The Operator]

Nice 3&out including a sack of Russ.

[The Operator]

Did they just not pick that blitz up? Seemed obvious before the ball was snapped.

In any event, Bengals settle for a FG.


10-0 Bengals

[KoryMac5]

Cade York hopefully picks up some confidence with that kick...10-0

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Did they just not pick that blitz up? Seemed obvious before the ball was snapped.

In any event, Bengals settle for a FG.


10-0 Bengals

Ford is playing RT and didn't account for Queen as he was focused on Watt...Aikman said he had to squeeze down a bit.

[KoryMac5]

Nice catch by Mike Williams thought for sure he was out.

[The Operator]

Newton gets torched on an 3rd and long deep ball.


This secondary needs completely revamped.

[KoryMac5]

Heyward seems to be playing more and more tonight.

[RedTeamGo!]

I hate the Steelers but I’m glad Freirmuth pointed at the flag there. It annoys me when DBs PI the crap out of receivers and then celebrate like that. He should have walked away and hoped the refs missed the blatant PI.

[The Operator]

Yea, celebrating a defended pass as the flag gets thrown is brutal.

Especially when you’ve been one of the worst DB’s in football all year.

[RedTeamGo!]

Tomlin looks like the 3 eyed fish from The Simpsons

[The Operator]

Cam Taylor Britt is hot garbage.

[Hillsdale87]

You gotta be kidding me with that PI call


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[KoryMac5]

CTB is an emotional player when 1 call doesn;t go his way another bad play is sure to follow.

[Reds Freak]

You gotta be kidding me with that PI call


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Yea that wouldn't have been called if the Steelers were on defense. A little tug but the receiver pushed off first.

[Hillsdale87]

Yea that wouldn't have been called if the Steelers were on defense. A little tug but the receiver pushed off first.

The smallest of tugs, but he was tugging the arm that Washington pushed him with!


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[The Operator]

Nice return!!!

Bengals start near mid field.

[KoryMac5]

Go for it...

[RedTeamGo!]

I feel like Cam Heyword has been playing for 20 years

[KoryMac5]

Cam Heyward unreal how many times he bats passes down...great play.

[The Operator]

Welp, that ended in a thud.

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Bengals have been terrible in short yardage situations at least since the days of Rudi Johnson.

[KoryMac5]

Newton is going to be a good one...showing something since Hill and Turner got hurt.

[The Operator]

Defense works a 3 & out