The 2025 Jacksonville Jaguars - It's like Deja Vu all over again

[JaxRed]

Jags owner Shad Khan has done it again. He seems totally incapable of making good personnel decisions. Somehow Trent Baalke has this Svengali-like hold on Khan.

Shad fired Doug Pederson this morning but has retained Trent Baalke. This despite being told apparently (yet again) that having Baalke will eliminate Jags from consideration from many top coaches.

Also no talk (yet) of bringing in an Executive VP of Football Operations to oversee decisions like that. There had been talk that it might be in the works.

So the enthusiasm many felt in Jax at a reboot is crushed on Day 1.

[MWM]

I honestly think Khan kept Baalke because it's such a hassle to go try to find a new GM and he doesn't care enough to make the effort. It's easy to fire the coach and tell Ballke to find another one. But finding a new GM is a lot more work for someone who doesn't care that much about the sport.

[JaxRed]

Khan has been in charge for 13 years. 13 years of almost total futility. He has conducted 1 GM search 12 years ago. (Baalke was internal hire).

[WVRed]

Khan has been in charge for 13 years. 13 years of almost total futility. He has conducted 1 GM search 12 years ago. (Baalke was internal hire).It would almost make more sense to hire a coach then a GM.

Most coaches want someone in that role they can work with schematically. Keeping things status quo is going to limit prospective coaches and also players who would consider the Jags in free agency.

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[Rojo Rijo]

Most likely just killed any chances of getting Ben Johnson as Head Coach.

[JaxRed]

I watched the press conference with Shad and Trent. It almost left me nauseous with how clueless Shad is. All the reporters would ask about a "clean sweep" (Meaning coach and GM), and Shad would keep talking about "I don't want to fire the team doctor and the nutrition and analytics staff"

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GgohakaXcAAYOdi?format=jpg&name=small

[JaxRed]

One of the many standing jokes in Jax is how Trent Baalke is going to hire his buddy Bill O'Brien.

Well it's happening. Interview tomorrow (the 7th)

https://x.com/E_Dilla/status/1876428951142502552

[JaxRed]

Virtual Interview scheduled with Aaron Glenn

[JaxRed]

Jags actually put out a list of requests. They have always been super secretive before.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GgtBtpdXIAcbtxE?format=jpg&name=small


Keep in mind no official request needed for Vrabel but I've not heard anything about them reaching out to him.

[WVRed]

Jags actually put out a list of requests. They have always been super secretive before.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GgtBtpdXIAcbtxE?format=jpg&name=small


Keep in mind no official request needed for Vrabel but I've not heard anything about them reaching out to him.

I'm guessing it'll be a first time coach who is eager to get a first head coaching job. Id be surprised if Vrabel goes anywhere but New England with the comments made by Kraft.

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[JaxRed]

Actually my guess a this point is Robert Saleh. I say Ben Johnson declines the interview. I have this suspicion though, even if he interviews, Trent will sabotage it.

Shad's last 4 HC/EVP hires: Retread and former Jax HC Tom Coughlin. Retread Doug Marrone, veteran coach Urban Meyer, retread Doug Pederson. And he came within an eyelash of hiring Byron Leftwich (former Jag).

So Shad like retreads, and he likes the "story" of a guy coming home to Jax.

That screams retread and former Jags LB Coach Robert Saleh.

[Kingspoint]

I'm guessing it'll be a first time coach who is eager to get a first head coaching job. Id be surprised if Vrabel goes anywhere but New England with the comments made by Kraft.

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You need Kellen Moore.

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Actually my guess a this point is Robert Salah. I say Ben Johnson declines the interview. I have this suspicion though, even if he interviews, Trent will sabotage it.

Shad's last 4 HC/EVP hires: Retread and former Jax HC Tom Coughlin. Retread Doug Marrone, veteran coach Urban Meyer, retread Doug Pederson. And he came within an eyelash of hiring Byron Leftwich (former Jag).

So Shad like retreads, and he likes the "story" of a guy coming home to Jax.

That screams retread and former Jags LB Coach Robert Saleh.

Screw Robert Saleh!

[JaxRed]

Just a note to illustrate how crazy things are.......


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If Baalke survives this HC search, this will be his 6th HC in his last 8 seasons as GM.

[Kingspoint]

Just a note to illustrate how crazy things are.......


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If Baalke survives this HC search, this will be his 6th HC in his last 8 seasons as GM.

That's crazy. How does Kahn not see that Baalke is the problem?

[KronoRed]

That's crazy. How does Kahn not see that Baalke is the problem?

He doesn't care.

[JaxRed]

Build me up, Buttercup.....

Ben Johnson has accepted interviews with Bears, Pats, Raiders and Jags

[plantmanky]

What about Dabo as Head Coach?

[JaxRed]

They are putting in a request to interview Brian Flores. Yikes almighty. An organization that reeks of disfunction want to bring him in?

He needs to go to an org with a strong EVP that he sure he doesn't go off the rails again.

Hard Pass

[Sea Ray]

They are putting in a request to interview Brian Flores. Yikes almighty. An organization that reeks of disfunction want to bring him in?

He needs to go to an org with a strong EVP that he sure he doesn't go off the rails again.

Hard Pass

It’s possible that he’s being brought in to satisfy the Rooney Rule


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[Tuff Nut]

Saw where Spags interviewed with the Jags yesterday.

[JaxRed]

It’s possible that he’s being brought in to satisfy the Rooney Rule


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They already had 2 black candidates: Glenn who they probably have serious interest in, and Graham who screams Rooney Rule

[Kingspoint]

Khan has the money to outbid others for Ben Johnson.

[RiverRat13]

Flores is an excellent coach. You'd be gambling that he learned how to manage people better and was humbled by the Miami experience. But his Dolphins teams outplayed their talent and he's basically the Ben Johnson of NFL defenses schematically.

[Sea Ray]

Khan has the money to outbid others for Ben Johnson.

I would think most NFL owners could afford to write him a blank check if that’s what it takes


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[Kingspoint]

Flores is an excellent coach. You'd be gambling that he learned how to manage people better and was humbled by the Miami experience. But his Dolphins teams outplayed their talent and he's basically the Ben Johnson of NFL defenses schematically.


I know Mike Brown would never hire anybody who had threatened to sue his former employer.

[JaxRed]

Despite all the national talking heads who are pushing the Ben Johnson to Vegas narrative, the local radio announcers here in Jax came on and both said they feel pretty good about Ben coming to Jax. One says he has a source on the Johnson side, the other on the Jax side.

And both expressed optimism. The one who says he has sources n Johnson side put it at 75%. One or both said they are past the "control" issue. Specifically, final decisions on players will not be Baalke's even if he is around.

[JaxRed]

So much for all that "inside info". Johnson chooses Bears

Dianna Russini reports:

The Jacksonville Jaguars were also interested in Ben Johnson but I'm told the setup wasn't in line with what he was looking for in his first head coaching job.

Translation: Baalke. Shad Khan continues to make baffling personnel decisions.

National NFL guy Mike Silver: If the Jaguars wanted a serious shot at Johnson, they'd have had to move on from (or indicate a willingness to move on from) GM Trent Baalke. They made their choice.

Local Insider Dilla confirmed a report that said Johnson took the Jags virtual interview at his agent's urging after he had told Jags he was not interested in job with Baalke. Even after 3 hours of talking Khan gave no indication he was willing to move on Baalke.

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So now the speculation turns to Liam Coen, Bucs OC. Coming back in for 2nd interview Wednesday. No other team has interviewed Coen to my knowledge.

[WVRed]

So much for all that "inside info". Johnson chooses Bears

Dianna Russini reports:

The Jacksonville Jaguars were also interested in Ben Johnson but I'm told the setup wasn't in line with what he was looking for in his first head coaching job.

Translation: Baalke. Shad Khan continues to make baffling personnel decisions.

National NFL guy Mike Silver: If the Jaguars wanted a serious shot at Johnson, they'd have had to move on from (or indicate a willingness to move on from) GM Trent Baalke. They made their choice.

Local Insider Dilla confirmed a report that said Johnson took the Jags virtual interview at his agent's urging after he had told Jags he was not interested in job with Baalke. Even after 3 hours of talking Khan gave no indication he was willing to move on Baalke.

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So now the speculation turns to Liam Coen, Bucs OC. Coming back in for 2nd interview Wednesday. No other team has interviewed Coen to my knowledge.As a UK fan I'm hoping Coen gets a shot. I know a lot of people were put off by him constantly looking at NFL opportunities but his work with Mayfield and UKs offense self destructing when he left speaks to how good he could be.

Jacksonville could do a lot worse.

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[UKFlounder]

Adam Schefter: Buccaneers offensive coordinator Liam Coen is taking himself out of the running for the Jaguars’ head coaching job to stay in Tampa on a new contract that now will place him amongst the highest-paid coordinators in the NFL, per sources.

Bucs are keeping their OC.

[JaxRed]

Another prime HC candidate gone. Would rather be an assistant than a HC and work with Baalke. But the moron running the organization (the same one who hired a guy who embezzled 22 million) will not be able to put 2 +2 together and figure out Baalke is the problem.

Now we're on to Saleh I assume. Or maybe some local HS coach wants the gig.

[Rojo Rijo]

This is beyond pathetic, and here I thought the Jets were the worst run organization in the league......

[JaxRed]

Talking heads are now kicking around Kingsbury, Joe Brady, Todd Monken. Monken most likely maybe among those three because he's getting older and this would probably be his only shot at being a HC.

Or we fall back to a defensive guy. Saleh, Graham.

Or an AARP candidate: Pete Carroll, Bill Belichick, Mike McCarthy

[WVRed]

Talking heads are now kicking around Kingsbury, Joe Brady, Todd Monken. Monken most likely maybe among those three because he's getting older and this would probably be his only shot at being a HC.

Or we fall back to a defensive guy. Saleh, Graham.

Or an AARP candidate: Pete Carroll, Bill Belichick, Mike McCarthyAs a Bengals fan who wants to see Baltimore weakened, please hire Monken.

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[UKFlounder]

Ian Rapoport: The #Jaguars and GM Trent Baalke are parting ways.

[JaxRed]

Apparently someone staying an Assistant rather than working with Trent Baalke was enough to wake Shad Khan up.

Now we have to convince Khan not to make the interim permanent. (He does crap like that)

[Kingspoint]

At least you're moving forward.

[Rojo Rijo]

Best news I’ve seen in a while. Now we can move forward.

[JaxRed]

Multiple sources are saying the Jags and Coen are back in talks to be the Head Coach !!

[KronoRed]

Bucs are in a uproar, leaking info that Coen told the Bubs he couldn't sign his deal because he had a sick child, but he was really in Jacksonville.

They had to know when Baake was canned that the Jags would be coming back.

[JaxRed]

Several national people are reporting that Coen has told the Bucs he is accepting the Jags HC job.

The next two interesting parts is DC and GM. The Bucs Asst GM (Spytek) was in negotiations with Raiders about the GM job there. But once the Coen thing picked up steam that news were silent. And long before the Coen news broke ther was someone posting about a private jet flying from Vegas to Tampa to Jax today.

Patrick Graham interviewed for HC, there's speculation he might be in line for DC

OC rumors center on a guy named Jake Peetz who was with Rams when Coen was with Rams.


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The Jaguars promised Liam Coen that he could pick his own General Manager and that he would get “Ben Johnson Money” for multiple years (Dianna Russini)

Ben Johnson money is around 13 million dollars per season (Mike Florio)

[Kingspoint]

Very interesting.

I don't ever remember this happening before...a candidate won't take a job because of the G.M. that's there. The G.M. gets fired. The candidate comes back and takes the job.

Maybe instead of a new G.M., they should put together a good team at the top between Khan and the Head Coach similar to how Washington has put together an upper management team. It won't work the same because of the nature of Khan. But the line of Khan to G.M. to H.C. doesn't seem like a good system. Something has to be different directly below Khan, and not have it by just one person that reports to him or takes orders from him. Doesn't seem like the #1-#2-#3-#4-#5, etc. system is working. They need at #1 (Khan) - #2A/#2B/#2C/#2D/#2E/#2F - #3. Split the G.M. Responsibilities into 6 equal departments...Internal Player Personnel/Scouting/Team Administration/Public Affairs/Drafting-Trades/Contracts-Salary Cap.

These NFL clubs have too much money to not have it divided up the way that the Washington Football Club does it now. There's a reason why they leapfrogged every organization in the NFL in just one season. The other 32 teams in the NFL are operating like a 1925 business model and the Washington Football Club is operating like a 2025 business model. WAS is going to continue to far outdistance the rest of the NFL and could easily go on a real dynasty here before the rest of the NFL follows in their success. Sports franchises have always been copycat organizations, but only in style of play on the field or how it effects the players' development. Never have they copied business models as Individual Owners have always dominated decision-making in an early 20th Century and even 19th Century type of business model. The Packers are one of the few organizations that have tried something different, but WAS has found the goldmine. Other Owners will be slow to change and may never change. The NFC East is going to be difficult to grab from WAS unless the NFL gets involved like they do with the Chiefs [if it wasn't so blatantly obvious then it wouldn't be a major story that they're trying to deny..."we never knew about the consussion issues (settled for $750M later)].


If you've never seen it before, look at this front office and the job titles. It's very impressive. There's no other sports organization like it in the United States.

https://www.commanders.com/team/front-office-roster/

[Kingspoint]

After Coen's rebuffing for the Jag's job, Khan met with Baalke, got out his sword, took a swath, and proclaimed, "Looks like Coen's back in the mix, boys!"

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[UKFlounder]

Thus will be Coen’s 6th job in 6 years. Certainly a HC job should keep him for a while, and I can’t really blsmeor criticize him much for looking to improve his life, but this current instability around him is kind of his normal life

[WVRed]

Thus will be Coen’s 6th job in 6 years. Certainly a HC job should keep him for a while, and I can’t really blsmeor criticize him much for looking to improve his life, but this current instability around him is kind of his normal lifeHe was at Kentucky twice and both times he left the offense really dropped off.

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[Kingspoint]

Thus will be Coen’s 6th job in 6 years. Certainly a HC job should keep him for a while, and I can’t really blsmeor criticize him much for looking to improve his life, but this current instability around him is kind of his normal life

Nobody can build anything in one year,...not by themselves.

[Sea Ray]

Very interesting.

I don't ever remember this happening before...a candidate won't take a job because of the G.M. that's there. The G.M. gets fired. The candidate comes back and takes the job.

Maybe instead of a new G.M., they should put together a good team at the top between Khan and the Head Coach similar to how Washington has put together an upper management team. It won't work the same because of the nature of Khan. But the line of Khan to G.M. to H.C. doesn't seem like a good system. Something has to be different directly below Khan, and not have it by just one person that reports to him or takes orders from him. Doesn't seem like the #1-#2-#3-#4-#5, etc. system is working. They need at #1 (Khan) - #2A/#2B/#2C/#2D/#2E/#2F - #3. Split the G.M. Responsibilities into 6 equal departments...Internal Player Personnel/Scouting/Team Administration/Public Affairs/Drafting-Trades/Contracts-Salary Cap.

These NFL clubs have too much money to not have it divided up the way that the Washington Football Club does it now. There's a reason why they leapfrogged every organization in the NFL in just one season. The other 32 teams in the NFL are operating like a 1925 business model and the Washington Football Club is operating like a 2025 business model. WAS is going to continue to far outdistance the rest of the NFL and could easily go on a real dynasty here before the rest of the NFL follows in their success. Sports franchises have always been copycat organizations, but only in style of play on the field or how it effects the players' development. Never have they copied business models as Individual Owners have always dominated decision-making in an early 20th Century and even 19th Century type of business model. The Packers are one of the few organizations that have tried something different, but WAS has found the goldmine. Other Owners will be slow to change and may never change. The NFC East is going to be difficult to grab from WAS unless the NFL gets involved like they do with the Chiefs [if it wasn't so blatantly obvious then it wouldn't be a major story that they're trying to deny..."we never knew about the consussion issues (settled for $750M later)].


If you've never seen it before, look at this front office and the job titles. It's very impressive. There's no other sports organization like it in the United States.

https://www.commanders.com/team/front-office-roster/

Really amazing that a young guy who's never had a head coaching gig at any level would wield such gravitas. It'd be one thing if Belichick or Carroll caused this. And then to give him Ben Johnson money. I know money means nothing to Khan. but still

[WVRed]

Thoughts on Coens introductory press conference?

I only ask because the national media is tearing him to shreds.

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[KronoRed]

Thoughts on Coens introductory press conference?

I only ask because the national media is tearing him to shreds.

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It's was hard to watch, lucky for him he's in a place nobody will notice he's bad with the press.

[Rojo Rijo]

The main reason he's being torn to shreds is how bad his "Duuuvallll" was, and yes it was maybe the worst ive ever seen. With that being said I don't give a rats ass how bad/awkward he is with the media as long as he can do with Trevor what he did with Baker.

Tampa went from the 27th offense in the league to the 3rd in yards per game.
Baker went from 9th to 3rd in passing yards, from 23 to 41 passing TDs, from a 94.6 to a 106.8 rating, and from a 64.3 completion % to a 71.4.

What I love - Trevor is criminally underrated when it comes to how good he is throwing deep passes. One of the best in the league. Baker was 5th in the league in deep pass attempts in 2024.
*Chalk up another Press Taylor failure. You're GM goes and gets Gabe Davis who's entire reason for existence is the deep ball and he is almost non-existent in the offense.

What worries me - Baker is a gunslinger QB. Lawrence has always seemed a bit more hesitant to take some risks and a lot of that probably lies at the feet of Urban, Doug, and Press but he's going to have to go out there and get aggressive to get the most out of his relationship with Coen.

This is an offense to really watch heading into 2025.
Coen has the potential to unleash Lawrence
Brian Thomas Jr. looks like one of the leagues best young WRs
Etienne/Bigsby will be used in true tandem again but by someone with actual brains. The balance should look more like Irving/White did in Tampa.
*Etienne is off the books after this year. Hallelujah, at this point to me he's just a better version of TJ Yeldon. Bye....

[Kingspoint]

It's was hard to watch, lucky for him he's in a place nobody will notice he's bad with the press.

Better him than a dweeb like Marvin Lewis.

[JaxRed]

Jags (Coen) hire Anthony Campanile as their DC. Was Linebackers coach at GB. First DC job. Supposedly is rising star in defensive coaching world. Packer and Dolphins fans said he was good.

[JaxRed]

Longtime Jag Tony Boselli will be moving into some kind of official role with Jags. Either as advisor or EVP. Khan they are checking with league on requirements. It's been a mixed bag with Boselli. He's been a tireless worker on behalf of the franchise but he was/is a notorious kiss-ass to Khan/Baalke recently.

[JaxRed]

Boselli was officially named EVP today. Need to see how people report etc. Tony should report to Shad. HC and GM should report to Tony. This should be last football decision Shad makes.


Edit: Yep all 3 report to Shad. Bad news.

[JaxRed]

The NFL had to rule as to whom the official "GM" would be. EVP (Boselli) or the GM. Jags convinced NFL the GM would be so now official requests have gone out for Asst GM's to interview for GM

Jaguars GM interview requests, according to sources:
Chargers AGM Chad Alexander
Giants AGM Brandon Brown
Bengals Sr. Personnel Exec Trey Brown
Bears AGM Ian Cunningham
Bucs AGM Mike Greenberg

[JaxRed]

Jags hire a QB coach. Mark Whipple. Don't know much about him. I think it's strange all these guys are being hired before the OC. Strange job, because you know Coen will be calling plays and be the "real" OC

[RichRed]

Jags hire a QB coach. Mark Whipple. Don't know much about him. I think it's strange all these guys are being hired before the OC. Strange job, because you know Coen will be calling plays and be the "real" OC

I remember Whipple as the UMass head coach when they were in FCS (I-AA at the time). He just missed coaching Coen by one year when Coen was QB at UMass, but they were later on the same coaching staff there. Seems Whipple had a positive impact on Coen, so he’s bringing one of his mentors into the fold.

[JaxRed]

Bucs Asst GM pulls out of Jags GM search. A lot of buzz recently about the Rams Director of Scouting James Gladstone. Guy looks like he's 20. But supposedly sharp as a tack.

[Rojo Rijo]

Bucs Asst GM pulls out of Jags GM search. A lot of buzz recently about the Rams Director of Scouting James Gladstone. Guy looks like he's 20. But supposedly sharp as a tack.

Im seeing reports that Licht told Greenberg he better be sure the Jags were hiring him for that spot, insinuating he would not be welcomed back if he took the interview and didnt get the job.

[JaxRed]

The Jacksonville Jaguars have agreed to terms with Grant Udinski to become the team’s offensive coordinator, the team announced today.

[Kingspoint]

Sounds just like what Trevor Lawrence needs. Now to keep him there for the next few years so Lawrence can have some stability.

Udinski was described as a mentor to injured rookie QB J.J. McCarthy, and he also helped guide Sam Darnold to the best season of his career. As teams looked to Kevin O’Connell‘s coaching tree to fill their offensive holes, Udinski became a popular name on the coordinator market, interviewing for gigs with the Seahawks and Jaguars.

[JaxRed]

Chad Morton hired as running back coach.

Kevin Wilkins will join the Jags staff as an assistant LBs coach.

John Van Dam followed Liam Coen to #Jacksonville, joining the organization as a pass game specialist under new OC Grant Udinski.

The #Jaguars are expected to hire veteran assistant Ron Milus as a defensive backs coach, sources tell CBSSports. He worked for the Colts the last three years. Previously worked for teams like the Raiders, Chargers, Broncos and Panthers.

[JaxRed]

In the GM front EVP Boselli said online interviews would be the week after the Superbowl and in person interviews will be the week after. The published "deadline" is Feb 28th but that is after the combine starts.

Add 49's Dir of Scouting Josh Williams to the GM list

as well as Trent Baalke's #2 Ethan Waugh. You have no idea how unpopular this would be. Boselli said he was getting a "bye" into the 2nd round of interviews.

And Alec Hallaby, Eagles Asst GM

[JaxRed]

These guys were unknown to me until a few days ago. But I saw a video about how the Rams put together their scouting/drafts, and it was a marvel to me. Super high tech. And the whole time I was watching I'm thinking "I'd be stunned if the Jags have anything like this".

And I want it. And I want James Gladstone from the Rams. Another young Whiz Kid.

There are 2 problems: One structurally and one politically.

Structurally: Shad Khan gave final word on personnel choices to Coen. I think most GM's would like to have final personnel decision making power. Since Gladstone and Coen know each other from Rams I'm hoping this can be overcome.

Politically: Jags have chosen to go the Young Phenom route for their top positions, overlooking more seasoned candidates. That has left them with all white power structure. HC, OC, DC (and EVP). You know the NFL would like a black GM. And the majority of the candidates are black.

[Sea Ray]

Jags fans:

Is there any indication that the Jags would consider trading Trevor Lawrence to the Steelers or anyone else?


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[JaxRed]

Jags fans:

Is there any indication that the Jags would consider trading Trevor Lawrence to the Steelers or anyone else?


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No.

[JaxRed]

Jags have been slow-walking the GM process. We are down to 5 candidates/

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Gj3TgZ4WcAIiitk?format=jpg&name=small


Along the way we also interviewed the former GM on the Titans. He thankfully did not survive the cut. Ethan Waugh is the Asst to Baalke. For that reason alone most folks don't want him.

The rest are all Young Turks. A whole lot of rumors that Ian Cunningham is the favorite. I have no problem if we go there although the Bears history doesn't inspire me. Gladstone (who I want) is Director of Scouting. I wonder if there is a way we could get him as Asst GM if Cunningham is GM.

[JaxRed]

All the interviews are done except Gladstone. Some talk among the "Local Internet Insiders" that Cunningham interview was less than impressive. While folks were "blown away" by Gladstone's virtual interview.

[JaxRed]

It's done !!

Jags hire Gladstone !!!

[Kingspoint]

I've always thought that Khan had a great business mind and that his approach would produce a great NFL product long-term. The results have not been good and the opposite of what I expected. Khan has more NFL experience now, so it's very possible that he's been able to adjust as an Owner and everything moving forward will be positive. One of the things I like most about him, giving leaders the same amount of time they would normally get in a business to manage things, has worked against him in the NFL, staying too long with some of those in charge. I still think it's the right approach, but what needed to be fixed was the process of coming up with those in charge. I still think he's right and the rest of the NFL is wrong with their knee-jerk reactions to firing G.M.'s and Head Coaches. It's not the G.M.'s and Head Coaches who are wrong, but it's the hiring process that put them into that position in the first place.

I would expect this new G.M. is going to be around for at least 5 years following the model that Kahn has used since he's been the Owner. That's a good thing. It takes time for a G.M. to place his stamp on a team (unless there's a tremendous management team in place like they have in WAS, which is truly the best model to follow, but that's going to take decades to copy as Owners of Sports franchises are pretty stubborn to give up control of operations).

He's going to be so much better than Baalke. JAX is relevant again and the Super Bowl window has reopened. From 4-13 to 10-7 and a playoff run.

[Kingspoint]

I think you should request to change that thread title.

It's anything but deja vue. Everything has changed...completely changed, and all for the better.

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Jacksonville currently has just under $40MM in cap space, but could create another $35MM of room by moving on from Christian Kirk, Evan Engram, and Josh Reynolds. Reynolds made just one catch in 2024 and won’t be worth his $4.26MM cap hit next season. Kirk and Engram both played well in 2022 and 2023, but experienced a downtick in production last year before going down with season-ending injuries. They represent the team’s two biggest cap hits in 2025, so the new regime may prefer to cut ties rather than extend players they didn’t originally sign.

The Rams consistently hit on their draft picks in Gladstone’s tenure despite trading away most of their first-round picks. He will hope to bring that success to Jacksonville, which had an inconsistent drafting record under Trent Baalke. The Jaguars currently hold the fifth overall selection in the 2025 NFL Draft, giving Gladstone a chance to add an elite prospect with his first pick as GM.

[Kingspoint]

Les Snead, who gave gave Gladstone his first job in the NFL (Gladstone hasn't worked for anyone else), was given his first job in the NFL in 1995 with the expansion Jaguars. Snead began as a scout and started hitting homeruns right away and has done so ever since. Gladstone learned from one of the best. It's too bad that Snead couldn't have stuck around with Jacksonville instead of moving on to ATL where the RAMS grabbed him in 2012 to be their new G.M.

I think Carpenter will be in charge in Jacksonville for the next decade. Jacksonville took longer than anyone else in their new G.M. search, but why not? This is something that you've got to get right.

[Rojo Rijo]

First big move by Gladstone - Christian Kirk is being released.

Rumors out there that Jags are in talks to acquire Cooper Kupp.

[Rojo Rijo]

Evan Engram released

Kirk not released, instead traded to Houston for a 2026 7th rd pick.

[JaxRed]

So Jags released or traded Ingram and Kirk as mentioned above, and then our center Mitch Morse retired. And some other minor guys.

On the first day of FA, Jags picked up a new center Robert Hainsey from Tampa (who Coen knows). He had been the starter until replaced last season. 3 year deal 21 million. So now we have someone solid unless/until we draft someone better.
Same kind of deal at RG where Jags moved on from Sherriff and picked up OG Patrick Mekari from Ravens. 3 year 37.5 million. Starter money.
And then we picked up another OL in Chuma Edoga from Dallas. 2 year deal. Presumably a depth piece.

Jags needed upgrades at OL and now we've raised the baseline.

Jags picked up 2 TE's to replace Engram and Farrell. Hunter Long and Johnny Mundt. Lot of folks see a lot bigger role for Brenton Strange. Long was in LA and Minn so he worked with Gladstone/Coen and the OC and Long was in LA with Gladstone/Coen.

The also picked up CB Jourdan Lewis and safety Eric Murray to shore up a weak secondary.

A lot of folks locally are bemoaning the lack of "buzz" but this is what Gladstone promised.

Build thru the draft and just raise the baseline in free Agency.

[JaxRed]

A Jags note that didn't get much publicity but might be significant behind the scenes. I stated earlier that I was turned on to the Gladstone hire (before it happened) because I saw a video that talked about the Rams and their high tech approach to drafting/personnel. They had a super-sophisticated database.

Well the Jags stole one of the key tech guys away from Rams and I assume one of his main jobs is to build a Jags version of that database.

[Kingspoint]

Despite holding the No. 5 overall pick, the Jaguars threw a strange wrinkle into their pre-draft process. They did not conduct any “30” visits, Schultz adds. This has left teams guessing, though the odd plan also would stand to leave Jacksonville’s new regime with less intel on prospects down the board. Indeed, PFR’s Jaguars page lists no “30” visits, adding intrigue to the first Liam Coen–James Gladstone offseason blueprint.

[JaxRed]

Well, you hire a Young Turk to shake things up......... you get what you ask for. Jags make the big move in the draft. Not trading back as many (including me) had hoped, but trading up to #2 to take the best player in the draft. Travis Hunter. They pay a hefty price to move 3 spots. Essentially a 2nd rounder and their first next year.

Gladstone in his press conference essentially said "trust me bro" as far as his ability to fill the rest of the team. And I do. He's the guy I wanted.

I'm hoping we take an Offensive lineman at pick 70.

PS - Jags have less players on the roster than any team in NFL.

[WVRed]

Well, you hire a Young Turk to shake things up......... you get what you ask for. Jags make the big move in the draft. Not trading back as many (including me) had hoped, but trading up to #2 to take the best player in the draft. Travis Hunter. They pay a hefty price to move 3 spots. Essentially a 2nd rounder and their first next year.

Gladstone in his press conference essentially said "trust me bro" as far as his ability to fill the rest of the team. And I do. He's the guy I wanted.

I'm hoping we take an Offensive lineman at pick 70.

PS - Jags have less players on the roster than any team in NFL.This could work or it could put Cleveland right in the Arch Manning sweepstakes.

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[Rojo Rijo]

I’m 100% good with the move. The tag was pricey but Hunter has generational talent abilities. Having him with BTJ gives Jacksonville one of the top WR duos in the league and hands down the best young duo. On top of that he’ll be used on defense when needed.

[Kingspoint]

Jags added two 3rd Round picks for 2026. Makes up some for losing their 2026 1st Round pick.

[Sea Ray]

22591

[Kingspoint]

22591

I'd love to have him over several Bengals Wide Receivers...basically anyone other than Higgins and Chase.

[Sea Ray]

I'd love to have him over several Bengals Wide Receivers...basically anyone other than Higgins and Chase.

For $39 million?


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[Kingspoint]

For $39 million?


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No, no, no, no, no.

He was released. We can sign him for the Vet's Min.

[JaxRed]

Recap of draft and recent activity. Jags were the big newsmakers of the first night trading up to get Travis Hunter. Trading away this years 2nd and next years first. They later traded back in the 3rd and got 2 thirds for 2026. There's a fascinating story in the Athletic by Michael Silver who was in the Jags draft room.

Talks about other players the Jags wanted and missed out on. And a different trade that almost went down but the offered was pulled at the last minute because the player the Rams wanted got taken. Bottom line I am totally ok with the move down from 70 to 88 picking up 2 thirds next year as long as they are still happy with who they got. And apparently they are. Mike Silver said heading into the draft, 3rd Rounder Ransaw was Gladstone's "Draft Crush". (Boselli's draft crush was not picked by Jags even though available).

A Safety with 4.33 speed. And then with the next pick they took an OL out of West Virginia. Big Boy. Milum. Then in the 4th the took the fastest RB in the class in Tuten. Probably means Etienne is in his last year with the Jags.

[JaxRed]

Well here we go. 1st game Sunday against one the worst teams in football in the Panthers. (Panthers are saying same thing). A loss here would seem to indicate a bad season forthcoming.

But I am fully onboard. They did what I wanted. Cleaned house of coaches and GM's. And hired the brightest minds they could find.

A first time young Head Coach. All last season I was on the Ben Johnson train. He was supposed to be the coaching guru. Yet my immediate reaction upon seeing his press conferences in Chicago was that he had a "used car salesman" vibe. I was kinda glad we didn't get him. And I do like the humble, confident vibes from Liam Coen. There might be some growing pains but I'm happy.

And he assembled a young talented coaching team. His OC is Grant Udinski, Wunderkind out of Minnesota. First time OC. And his DC is Anthony Campanile , a young first time DC out of Green Bay.

So the entire coaching triumvirate is made up of young, smart first timers.

And then we hired James Gladstone the whiz kid Asst GM from the Rams. Supposedly wowed every one in interviews. And he has come in and cleaned house of players from the old regime. At one point we had fewer players under contract of any team in the NFL. We wheeled and dealed and made the biggest gamble of the NFL draft in picking up Travis Hunter. So we'll start getting report cards soon. He cost us our #2 this year and our #1 next year. The first player we drafted after him is lost for the year.

Succcess for me this year is 9-7. That or more and I'm super happy.

[Assembly Hall]

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/was-trevor-lawrence-worth-the-hype-his-make-or-break-2025-season-begins-now/

[MWM]

I love what I hear from Gladstone here. That guy could be what turns this franchise around. I'm just not sure Lawrence has it in him to be elite.

[JaxRed]

Well Jags win fairly comfortably. Couldn't ask for much more in new regimes debut. Things looked cohesive, mistakes (especially in 1st half) were few. Lawrence looked pretty good. And I think we came out of it healthy.

[Kingspoint]

Well Jags win fairly comfortably. Couldn't ask for much more in new regimes debut. Things looked cohesive, mistakes (especially in 1st half) were few. Lawrence looked pretty good. And I think we came out of it healthy.

JAX vs CIN, battle of the unbeatens.

[JaxRed]

Jags trade RB Tank Bigsby to Eagles for a 5 and 6. (there's a way the 5 could become a 4).

Jags had 4 RB's they liked and talked about how they couldn't keep 4 active. So Bigsby is now gone.

Gladstone continues to wheel/deal.

[JaxRed]

Jags are underdogs on the road against the Bengals. I'm crazily optimistic that this is a winnable game for the Jags. Mostly this is because of how good the Jags looked last week and how poorly the Bengals played. In post game analysis Trevor Larence''s game might have been more on the "just ok" side of things rather then the "pretty good" side.

Jags appear to be healthy. Play ball.

[MWM]

Definitely a winnable game for the Jags, who looked much better than Cincy last week. There's been a lot about how good the Bengals D was in the 2nd half, but I must have missed something because it still seemed very soft to me.

I think it all depends on the Bengals offense. The assumption is last week was the typical terrible week 1, and also playing in Cleveland, so this week they will bounce back to normal. But in he Taylor era, it's generally not been until about week 4 that they start to click. And the offensive line was graded 31st in the league last week, so unless that improves drastically, the Jags have a great chance to win this one.

[Sea Ray]

You gotta win a game where you're ahead by a TD and your opponent loses a top 3 QB in the league. You just gotta win that sort of game. The dropped passes. Why did Lawrence continue to snap the ball when his team was not set? I was not impressed at all

[JaxRed]

Well the Jags had a whole slew of chances to win against the Bengals, and it took all of them going wrong to lose the game.

1. As Sea Ray mentioned we had a sequence where we had 4 straight motion penalties. I think that was first half, but hopefully whatever that was is fixed permanently.
2. All of a sudden Brian Thomas Jr is having trouble catching the ball. He dropped a super easy ball that would have clinched the game on about the 5 yard line. Supposedly this all started in pre-season when he got hit hard on a crossing route. In the course of 2 games he's gone from one of the top receivers in the game to kind of crappy. Will be interesting to see if this is worked out.
3. One of our other wide receivers dropped a catchable TD ball in endzone.
4. I think on the Thomas drop, Lawrence could have run for the TD. He doesn't always make the best choices.
5. And despite all of that we would gave won except for an atrocious blown pass interference call. Called correctly game is over.

So we play our nemesis the Texans today, They've certainly had our number. This is one of those defining moments. A game you can win, makes you 2-1 versus 1-2. Just seems like a huge swing.

I say the Jags prevail.

[Kingspoint]

Good bounce-back win.

Indy looking like the team to beat in the Division.

[MWM]

They won but it wasn’t pretty. Houston is probably 2nd only to New Orleans in the race for the top pick.

Maybe Cohen will have Lawrence much improved by the end of the year but I just don’t see the skill there. Lots of physical tools but he’s a slow processor of the game. And that is generally what dooms very talented QBs. Reminds me of Justin Fields who also shows flashes but ultimately can’t process everything that needs to be processed in the few seconds of a football play while playing QB when your first option isn’t open.

[Sea Ray]

They won but it wasn’t pretty. Houston is probably 2nd only to New Orleans in the race for the top pick.

Maybe Cohen will have Lawrence much improved by the end of the year but I just don’t see the skill there. Lots of physical tools but he’s a slow processor of the game. And that is generally what dooms very talented QBs. Reminds me of Justin Fields who also shows flashes but ultimately can’t process everything that needs to be processed in the few seconds of a football play while playing QB when your first option isn’t open.

That's a common problem for QBs who come from powerhouse schools where the competition is generally quite inferior to your teammates. That definitely applies to Fields

[MWM]

I'm not convinced Lawrence has improved much at all since his Freshman year at Clemson.

[JaxRed]

Well I forgot to post last week after Texas win. So 2 weeks and 2 wind have passed.

Jags looked sluggish in an ugly home win against the winless Texans. Lawrence was 20/40 and didn't look good, despite the facts drops were happening all over the field.

Didn't give me good vibes heading on the road for a west coast game at SF, but Jags came away with solid win. The defense i carrying the day as they lead the lead in takeaways.

Jags play Chiefs on MNF home in Jacksonville. Jags face a rebounding Chiefs team and the Head Official who went to Texas Tech and is 11-0 officiating games with Chiefs.

Jags need better play from Trevor Lawrence who is having his worst statistical season since his rookie season. So he's not getting better (so far) under the new regime.

[Kingspoint]

Beat them Chiefs on MNF.

[Sea Ray]

So the Bengals are the only team to beat the Jags this year???


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[kaldaniels]

Trevor Lawrence statement game. Fun to watch.

Not over though…

[KronoRed]

Over now.

Terrible final drive by the Chiefs.

[kaldaniels]

Maybe we are seeing the end of the Chiefs Empire as well. Jax should have beat them by 2 scores.

[JaxRed]

So the Bengals are the only team to beat the Jags this year???


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Bogus pass interference call won that game for Bengals, otherwise 5-0

[WVRed]

Maybe we are seeing the end of the Chiefs Empire as well. Jax should have beat them by 2 scores.Been crazy to watch the Chiefs collapse as well as the Ravens.

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[Sea Ray]

Bogus pass interference call won that game for Bengals, otherwise 5-0

Sure but why was it a one score game when the Bengals were led by Browning?


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[Sea Ray]

https://x.com/4WhomJBellTolls/status/1975398649401147817


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[Rojo Rijo]

No call on KC when Parker Washington got knocked down gifted them their 3rd touchdown. Thankfully after that the calls that needed to be made were made.

[Kingspoint]

No call on KC when Parker Washington got knocked down gifted them their 3rd touchdown. Thankfully after that the calls that needed to be made were made.

I was only watching on paper, but I instantly smelled a great whiff of foul play involved. Rarelybare my instincts ever wrong.

[Kingspoint]

By the way, I would love to hear the details of what makes the following possible, a brief description of all 5 O-Linemen, their next best O-Lineman, their blocking TE, their blocking back and their O-Line Coach. I'm enviable of the best Offensive Line in the league and how it developed. They are 2nd in Pass-block Win Rate. They are 3rd in Run-block Win Rate. The Jags and the Colts are likely to meet in the AFC Championship Game.

[JaxRed]

Jags GM James Gladstone made a trade with the Browns swapping Cornerbacks. Browns get Tyson Campbell and Jags get Newsome. Newsome is rated as the better corner, and there's a feeling he's better suited to Jags defense. But he's a free agent after the year and Campbell is signed to a hefty deal but Browns can escape easily if they want.

Jags eat about 7 million dead cap space this year and 17 million next year. This as Gladstone attempts to rework the team in his image and away from Baalke's guys. We have a ton of dead cap money this year. And next year is starting to pile up.

But I'm trusting Gladstone and so far that's been a good plan.

We swapped a 7th rnd pick for a 6th, But it was PHilly's 7th rounder, for Jets 6th, which might be #1 in 5th, so we probably gained 50 positions in that swap.

[JaxRed]

Forgot to comment on Jags win over Chiefs on Monday. A lot of stuff went Jags way. But man it's nice to gain some national legitimacy.

Seattle will be very tough game.

[Tuff Nut]

Forgot to comment on Jags win over Chiefs on Monday. A lot of stuff went Jags way. But man it's nice to gain some national legitimacy.

Seattle will be very tough game.

Great win for the Jags....Damn idiot kicker.

[Kingspoint]

Seattle is no slouch.

[JaxRed]

As I suspected, Seattle was tough, and Jags played like crap. OLine (especially Walker Little) got abused and when he did have open guys Trevor missed them or threw high to ensure only a few yards after catch.

Our kicker has gone from automatic, to kinda terrible.


So Rams in London.......

I'm expecting a loss. Then a bye week. After that a stretch where 4 of 5 should be winnable.

[Assembly Hall]

Turned the game on to find the Rams up 21-0 in the 2nd Q. WTF?

[JaxRed]

Turned the game on to find the Rams up 21-0 in the 2nd Q. WTF?

Yep, I expected a loss because they were in such a funk. It remains. I'd like to see them try the backup QB. I hate that QB's are exempt from being replaced when things go wrong.

[Assembly Hall]

Yep, I expected a loss because they were in such a funk. It remains. I'd like to see them try the backup QB. I hate that QB's are exempt from being replaced when things go wrong.

I think TL needs a change of scenery. Or should I say Jax needs to move on from him?

[MWM]

I think TL needs a change of scenery. Or should I say Jax needs to move on from him?

I think it's simpler in that he's just not that good. He's never been able to adjust to the speed of the NFL. He's a slow processor, which is very clear watching him over his 5 years. That's not something that is going to change. Justin Fields is the same. It's the most important skill for a QB, IMO.

[Kingspoint]

This loss helps the Bengals cause, should there be a Wild Card scenario where CIN already owns the tie-breaker.

[Sea Ray]

I’m to the point where T Lawrence just isn’t that good. His throws are late and ill timed. I’ve given him a pass up to this point due to all the different coaches he’s had but at this point he is what he is.

He’s a guy who played at a school that was vastly superior to almost all the teams on their schedule. That doesn’t prepare you for the NFL


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[JaxRed]

So we are coming off the bye week and facing what should be a winnable game in Vegas. Will it be a win? Who knows.

Jags have lost Travis Hunter for at least 4 weeks with a mysterious knee injury. Not disclosed, but Adam Schefter says no ACL damage. I wonder about a meniscus tear.

So we are not getting much from draft class. Before the injury there was talk that Jags were taking the training wheels off Hunter. Now he's gone. We had no 2nd rounder. One third rounder in out for year, the other hasn't played a down.

In a way, it remarkable we've already equaled our win total from last year.

Deadline talk: Jags restructured contracts to open up cap space. We are rumored to be looking for defensive help. On the other hand we have reportedly been shopping WR Brian Thomas Jr. Although Jags are asking for a lot. Good luck with that. I suspect Gladstone doesn't consider him intangibly rich.

[JaxRed]

Well, 2 things happened this week. Trading deadline passed. Jags did make a move picking up WR Jakobi Myers from Oakland for 2 mid round picks. Myers is a FA at end of year. He's known to be a sure handed receiver on a team that drops lots of balls. They did not trade for any defensive help despite that being the speculation prior to the deadline.

And Jags played and won a game.

To say it was an ugly win would be an understatement. We played a crappy team, and it took an missed extra point from them, and the longest FG in NFL history just to get to overtime, where we won when the other team went for 2 and missed. The ball was batted down on the line. Had it gotten past the defender, there was a wide open receiver in the end zone, because the Jags had busted coverage.

Trevor once again threw a mind numbing pick in the end zone to snuff a drive. He does this 2-3 times a year. And after every one we hear the same old crap. "I've got to do better..."

So we once again are facing a bad team on the road. Texans don't have their starting QB. Will we win? Once again I have no idea. They look so bad.

[Assembly Hall]

Ouch.


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[KronoRed]

4th quarter O was some of the worst play calling you can have.

[MWM]

You can't play not to lose for a full quarter. I thought Cohen would be more agressive.

Ad Lawrence is just not a good NFL QB. That final play was his career to date in a nutshell in one single play. They had 7 seconds and needed close to 15 yards. So he drops back and in typical Lawrence fashion, can't make a decision fast enough, holds on to the ball without the presence of mind that the clock is ticking. Then he realizes it's too late and just releases the ball. Lawrence's brain does not process the NFL game fast at all. And I don't see him going the way of Sam Darnold. He just doesn't have the football IQ.

[JaxRed]

Jags suffered their largest blown lead in their existence. Turned a game that could not be lost into a loss. Most people blame the defense, I mostly blame the offense. For three quarters of the game, special teams and defense had done their part. But the offense kept going 3 and out over and over leaving the defense gassed,

The Jags had negative yards and negative points from a point partway thru 3rd quarter, And when we took our shot at a Hail Mary, Trevor couldn't even throw the ball he was so bamboozled. Instead he coughed it up into the arms of a defender for a TD,

Now we play a good team, and we are beat up across the board.

We are going to get hammered today.

[JaxRed]

Narrator: They did not get hammered. They were playing Chargers who had won 4 in a row. I prided myself that I was not a fair weather fan and sat down to watch Jags get pummeled. Instead Jags pummeled the Chargers.

That's set off a streak of 4 straight wins. There was a super ugly win versus Arizona, and the latest 2 were dominant wins over bad teams.

We play a bad team again today in the Jets. If we take care of business we'll be 10-4. This team was 4-13 a year ago. I don't think we'll win AFC. Too inconsistent. But feel good about the direction of the franchise with Coen/Gladstone.

[JaxRed]

We head into the last game of the season at 12-4. I'd be surprised with a Jags loss so I expect 13-4 and closing season with 8 straight wins. Trevor Lawrence has really stepped up his game. For the first time I feel like maybe we don't have an albatross at QB.

I can't say enough about what Coen has done for this franchise. I think he should be coach of the year.

[Kingspoint]

No deja vu for this year's club.

[JaxRed]

No deja vu for this year's club.

It was going to be Deja Vu until Coen turned down the HC job to stay as an assistant in TB rather than work with Baalke. Him doing that allowed Boselli to convince Khan to fire Baalke to get Coen. And then Coen hired all the right guys. I don't know who hired Gladstone (the guy I wanted so bad). I suspect it was a combo of Coen and Boselli.

I hope we can keep the staff together one more year.

[Redsfaithful]

Congrats Jax, enjoy it!

[Rojo Rijo]

It was going to be Deja Vu until Coen turned down the HC job to stay as an assistant in TB rather than work with Baalke. Him doing that allowed Boselli to convince Khan to fire Baalke to get Coen. And then Coen hired all the right guys. I don't know who hired Gladstone (the guy I wanted so bad). I suspect it was a combo of Coen and Boselli.

I hope we can keep the staff together one more year.

It’s amazing that Khan made this decision. I’d figured he’d stick with Trent when it came out Coen was out if Baalke stayed.

A decision to keep Baalke could have very well kept us on the same path, well out of the playoffs with a franchise QB who we would’ve been ready to toss aside.

I hated that Trent was here as long as he was but man oh man did this work out about as well as it could’ve.

Coen+Lawrence is going to be a force for years.
We’re 13-4, division champs and about to host a playoff game all without our unicorn rookie.

Those “Browns are getting 2 top 10 picks next year, they robbed Jacksonville” comments are sweet nectar right now.

[MWM]

Coen+Lawrence is to be a force for years.

It's possible, but more likely with Coen than Lawrence. I'm an analytics guy, so when you have a large sample that's so much different than the recent, and smaller, one, I'm probably going to think it's more likely that he regresses back to where he was before rather than this all of a sudden being who he is. I'm not saying it's a certainty, but I think the odds of it are at least 50-50.

Coen I buy into more, however, I also can't forget that this same thing happened the last 2 coaches that were hired (excluding Meyer). Marrone was brought in to replace the disaster that was Gus Bradley and was 1 quarter away from the Super Bowl in his first year and we all thought it was different now. We all know how that ended.

Doug Pederson came in next. They started sow but won 5 of the last 6 and backed into the playoffs, then won a game and was competitive against KC. We thought this was different. And it ended the same as Marrone.

I think Coen is different, but my primary reason for optimism is Gladstone. I think the combination of Coen and Gladstone feels different for sure. But I'm going to be skeptical until they do it again next year.

[WVRed]

Dont know Jacksonville media but whoever the reporter was who complimented Coen after the game was an absolute class act.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/nfl/article-15454643/amp/nfl-liam-coen-jaguars-jacksonville-reporter.html

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[kaldaniels]

Dont know Jacksonville media but whoever the reporter was who complimented Coen after the game was an absolute class act.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/nfl/article-15454643/amp/nfl-liam-coen-jaguars-jacksonville-reporter.html

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Not according to the media elites. She is getting absolutely roasted by fellow reporters.

[WVRed]

Not according to the media elites. She is getting absolutely roasted by fellow reporters.I can see that because of being "objective" but sports media is changing. Pat McAfee put it best:

https://thespun.com/nfl/pat-mcafee-tells-sports-fans-to-ignore-nfl-journalists

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[kaldaniels]

I can see that because of being "objective" but sports media is changing. Pat McAfee put it best:

https://thespun.com/nfl/pat-mcafee-tells-sports-fans-to-ignore-nfl-journalists

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I just find it hilarious how all the media folks are being so catty towards her. As a one off it didn’t bother me in the slightest. But these reporters, even normally pleasant ones, are acting like she set the field back 50 years.

[WVRed]

I just find it hilarious how all the media folks are being so catty towards her. As a one off it didn’t bother me in the slightest. But these reporters, even normally pleasant ones, are acting like she set the field back 50 years.When I see people like Pat McAfee, Dave Portnoy, and Matt Jones (UK) who are objectively biased toward their teams it shows the future.

I know most media members are supposed to be objective but saying what she did was I thought classy from a media member. I had no idea who she was.

Liam Coen is an example of lose the press conference but win the season. Still thinking Duuval.

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[plantmanky]

I just find it hilarious how all the media folks are being so catty towards her. As a one off it didn’t bother me in the slightest. But these reporters, even normally pleasant ones, are acting like she set the field back 50 years.



Its because she set the tone with her statement, they couldnt ask any demeaning, you suck, why are you a failure type questions after what she said.

[JaxRed]

Well let's close out the Jags for 2025. We lose a close one to Bills in playoff to end year. A couple problems during the year resurfaced a bit during the game. Lawrence threw 2 picks, and throwing too high to open receiver caused the last one. While he missed a more open guy further down the field.

But overall I couldn't be more pleased heading into 26.