2025 NCAA Football News

[Chip R]

Clemson and FSU are expected to come to an agreement to settle the four ongoing lawsuits against the ACC.

https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/44093338/sources-fsu-clemson-expected-reach-settlement-acc

[Sea Ray]

Tennessee Football has sold out its season ticket allotment of 70,500 for a third straight year, the Vols announced on Tuesday. Another 23,755 fans are currently on a season-ticket waiting list.

https://www.on3.com/teams/tennessee-volunteers/news/tennessee-vols-football-season-tickets-sold-out-waiting-list-24-thousand/

[Boston Red]

I guess the NIL surcharge didn't scare anyone off.

[westofyou]

Opinion | The DOGE staffers are not too young to run the government.

by Bill Belichick

[GAC]

I guess the NIL surcharge didn't scare anyone off.

They know fanatical fans when they see'em. ;)

That ticket surcharge will probably catch on with the other institutions at some point IMO.... "Why should we use all our monies if the fans are willing to pitch in?

Not this one.

[UKFlounder]

Michigan to suspend Sherron’s Moore for 2 games due to deleting texts related to the Conner Stalions scandal, but they wait until games 3 and 4, letting him coach the game at Oklahoma

https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/45006503/sources-michigan-sherrone-moore-expected-get-2-game-ban

Edit: thanks for the clarification RTG

[RedTeamGo!]

Michigan to suspend Sherron’s Moore for 2 games due to the Conner Stalionsc scandal.

https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/45006503/sources-michigan-sherrone-moore-expected-get-2-game-ban

A little bit of semantics, but he is being suspended 2 games for deleting text messages about the Stallions scandal. That is not the punishment for the entire scandal.

[Slyder]

Tennessee Legislature may have unwittingly put Vandy and Tennessee in a position it doesn't want to be.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/other/vanderbilt-commodores-ut-vols-football-programs-face-expulsion-from-the-sec-over-tennessee-state-laws/ar-AA1Fb6Kp?ocid=entnewsntp&pc=U531&cvid=e28c12c0d3a4416dee5562187d1d6e80&ei=27#comments

"The document is being circulated by the ACC, Big 12, Big Ten and the SEC. It demands that member schools agree to follow new rules involving paying players despite state laws giving the freedom to circumvent the rules. And the pledge also requires schools to waive their right to sue the NCAA or conferences if they disagree with the implementation of those rules."

[Kingspoint]

The NCAA is more of a professional football league than the Canadian Football League.

They really need to just embrace it and stop pretending like it's not true...kind of like baseball and gambling have finally done.

[Boston Red]

Ryan Day thinks the Big Ten should get 4 auto bids to the football playoffs. How about...nooooooo. If the league is as good as he thinks it is, they'll get at least 4 most years in a 16 team format anyway.

[bucksfan2]

Ryan Day thinks the Big Ten should get 4 auto bids to the football playoffs. How about...nooooooo. If the league is as good as he thinks it is, they'll get at least 4 most years in a 16 team format anyway.

They are going to get 4 bids, same with the SEC. I don't know what it ultimately will end up looking like, but I think you will get the 4-4-2-2-1 breakdown. 4 for the SEC and B1G, 2 for the Big 12 and ACC, 1 for the best G-5, and then 3 at large.

I think that format, and the SEC going to a 9 game schedule, will provide the best overall games for college football fans.

[Boston Red]

I suspect it will be the 5+11 model. One autobid each. As it should be. As it is in every other sport.

[RiverRat13]

I suspect it will be the 5+11 model. One autobid each. As it should be. As it is in every other sport.

There are other NCAA sports where only five conferences get auto bids?

[Boston Red]

There are other NCAA sports where only five conferences get auto bids?

Fair. I meant a one auto bid max.

[RiverRat13]

Fair. I meant a one auto bid max.

The B1G and SEC hold all of the cards. It may not be fair, but it's the reality. And the two will only get more powerful when the ACC falls apart after 2030. The B1G and SEC will simply take the most attractive programs and leave the rest to battle the Big 12, et al for table scraps.

[plantmanky]

I may be miss understanding the pieces of this I have heard but, if winning your conference championship, doesnt get you anything anymore, then what is the point of being in a conference going forward. Wouldnt going the Notre Dame right make more sense? You pick your schedule, you keep all the money and dont have to share it with conference teams.

[Chip R]

I may be miss understanding the pieces of this I have heard but, if winning your conference championship, doesnt get you anything anymore, then what is the point of being in a conference going forward. Wouldnt going the Notre Dame right make more sense? You pick your schedule, you keep all the money and dont have to share it with conference teams.

Notre Dame is special. If you're in a conference - especially if it's the SEC or Big 10, if you finish 2nd or 3rd and you have a great record, you're in the playoff. The question should be, what's the point of a conference championship game?

[Slyder]

I may be miss understanding the pieces of this I have heard but, if winning your conference championship, doesnt get you anything anymore, then what is the point of being in a conference going forward. Wouldnt going the Notre Dame right make more sense? You pick your schedule, you keep all the money and dont have to share it with conference teams.

You have to get the TV money from the conference. Not everyone is going to be given $20 million as an independant (plus what the ACC pays them) and average 5.1 million viewers per game.

[Boston Red]

Ohio State, Texas and Alabama could do what Notre Dame does. I'm not sure anyone else could.

[RedTeamGo!]

Ohio State, Texas and Alabama could do what Notre Dame does. I'm not sure anyone else could.

Michigan

[bucksfan2]

Ohio State, Texas and Alabama could do what Notre Dame does. I'm not sure anyone else could.

What if OSU, PSU, Michigan, ND and throw in a couple of more teams, Oregon, MSU, Washington, and USC break away and form their own league. What kind of TV contract could they sign?

Most of the conferences are propped up by a select few teams. And yea while the SEC is good football, would they be in demand if Georgia, Bama and LSU weren't on the schedule?

[Sea Ray]

SEC Wants to Play Big Ten Opponents for College Football Playoff Bids


Kelly, coach of the LSU Tigers, told reporters at SEC spring meetings Wednesday that his peers are in favor of scheduling games against the Big Ten annually. “Our first goal would be wanting to play Big Ten teams,” Kelly said. “As coaches, I can speak for the room, we want to play Big Ten teams. … So we’ve made our voice clear. Our ADs know that we would like that. Our commissioner obviously heard us as well.”

That’s already a newsworthy development, but here’s where it really gets interesting—the games could possibly be a play-in-style format that might decide up to eight bids for the College Football Playoff.

https://www.si.com/college-football/sec-wants-to-play-big-ten-college-football-playoff-bids

It would work as a play in to the CFP. Pretty nice deal for those 2 conferences but not so much for the rest of the NCAA

[*BaseClogger*]

Make em games played on campus, please.

[Chip R]

Make em games played on campus, please.

But that would mean an SEC team might have to play outside north of the Mason-Dixon line. It might get below freezing.

[bucksfan2]

But that would mean an SEC team might have to play outside north of the Mason-Dixon line. It might get below freezing.

I seemed to remember that happening last December.

[WVRed]

Louisville just poached Vince Marrow from Kentucky as GM.

This is probably the beginning of the end for Stoops in Lexington.

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[Boston Red]

Finally happened, huh? That's been a rumored move for the last couple of offseasons. It got to where Louisville fans just through Marrow was putting his name out there to make Brohm look bad everytime Marrow stayed at UK.

[WVRed]

Finally happened, huh? That's been a rumored move for the last couple of offseasons. It got to where Louisville fans just through Marrow was putting his name out there to make Brohm look bad everytime Marrow stayed at UK.Marrow and Brohm were close so there's that.

I had no idea the relationship between Stoops and Marrow had eroded to where it was. Had to do with Stoops rehiring Eddie Gran which ironically was when things started going downhill.

Unless Stoops pulls a Calipari, Barnhart will be on the hook for a massive buyout. If fans dont shown up like they did with Joker it may force the issue. Jon Sumrall will likely be the first choice if he wants it.

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[WVRed]

Looks like Fox Sports is following ESPNs lead and putting a blowhard on set. First McAfee now One Bite Pizza Man

https://frontofficesports.com/fox-sports-deal-dave-portnoy-big-noon-barstool-fs1/

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[Sea Ray]

Looks like Fox Sports is following ESPNs lead and putting a blowhard on set. First McAfee now One Bite Pizza Man

https://frontofficesports.com/fox-sports-deal-dave-portnoy-big-noon-barstool-fs1/

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I wish they'd cancel Cowherd

[Assembly Hall]

I wish they'd cancel Cowherd

I like him...I wish they would cancel J-Mac

[Sea Ray]

I like him...I wish they would cancel J-Mac

What is it about J Mac that rubs people the wrong way? I'm fine with him. Far better than Joy Taylor in that role

[plantmanky]

Who is J Mac?

[Sea Ray]

Who is J Mac?

https://www.foxsports.com/personalities/jason-mc-intyre/bio


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[Sea Ray]

The next Manning QB to watch, Peyton's son "Marshall" who's an 8th grader. He's enrolled in Chattanooga, TN. I don't know how that works. Do you just pick your school and then buy a house in that area?


https://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/news/college-football/peyton-mannings-son-marshall-manning-reportedly-enrolls-at-school-in-tennessee/

[NorthBerg]

The next Manning QB to watch, Peyton's son "Marshall" who's an 8th grader. He's enrolled in Chattanooga, TN. I don't know how that works. Do you just pick your school and then buy a house in that area?


https://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/news/college-football/peyton-mannings-son-marshall-manning-reportedly-enrolls-at-school-in-tennessee/


Private prep school, traditional residency does not apply.

[Sea Ray]

Private prep school, traditional residency does not apply.

But is it a boarding school? Where is an 8th grader going to live? I would think with family so the Manning family would likely buy something there. That's where I'm coming from

[WVRed]

UNC is reportedly eyeing a move to the SEC.

Did not have that one on my bingo card. Would have thought they would prefer the Big Ten.

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[KronoRed]

UNC is reportedly eyeing a move to the SEC.

Did not have that one on my bingo card. Would have thought they would prefer the Big Ten.



Similar to Texas, we heard for years they they would never join the SEC.

[Slyder]

Similar to Texas, we heard for years they they would never join the SEC.

It's been the worst kept secret. The only question wasn't whether UNC would be loyal, the question was whether they'd end up in the SEC or stick to the "education" excuse and join B1G. They let FSU and Clemson to take the heat.

I hope Big 12 is at least talking to FSU and Clemson, I can't fault them if they end up B1G or SEC for the money. From a strict $ value Miami and Ga Tech would be next. If you're talking about education UV gay (fully expect them to go B1G before we get here though), Stanford, and Cal. I don't want a reunion of the old Big East.

[bucksfan2]

It's been the worst kept secret. The only question wasn't whether UNC would be loyal, the question was whether they'd end up in the SEC or stick to the "education" excuse and join B1G. They let FSU and Clemson to take the heat.

I hope Big 12 is at least talking to FSU and Clemson, I can't fault them if they end up B1G or SEC for the money. From a strict $ value Miami and Ga Tech would be next. If you're talking about education UV gay (fully expect them to go B1G before we get here though), Stanford, and Cal. I don't want a reunion of the old Big East.

UNC probably makes more sense than any other ACC team. Its the "state" school in a growing state. Of all the teams out there that have had a pretty vanilla football history, UNC may be the one that could rise (FWIW I don't know if Belichick is the guy to do that.) 15 years from now, it wouldn't surprise me if UNC is the best team out of the collection of current ACC teams.

I don't know what FSU brings that the SEC doesn't already have. And while Miami is in a very large city, they are a small private school that runs hot and cold.

Clemson is the one school that I don't have a clue as to what they are going to become. They caught lightening in a bottle a handful of years ago, and became one of the top programs in the country. But Dabo was very slow to evolve, and I have a feeling this could be a make or break year for the Clemson program. They bring a lot back and are pretty highly rated, can they compete to win it all. When comparing Clemson to other SEC schools, convince me going forward (especially outside of the Dabo glory years) they aren't Auburn.

[Slyder]

UNC probably makes more sense than any other ACC team. Its the "state" school in a growing state. Of all the teams out there that have had a pretty vanilla football history, UNC may be the one that could rise (FWIW I don't know if Belichick is the guy to do that.) 15 years from now, it wouldn't surprise me if UNC is the best team out of the collection of current ACC teams.

I don't know what FSU brings that the SEC doesn't already have. And while Miami is in a very large city, they are a small private school that runs hot and cold.

Clemson is the one school that I don't have a clue as to what they are going to become. They caught lightening in a bottle a handful of years ago, and became one of the top programs in the country. But Dabo was very slow to evolve, and I have a feeling this could be a make or break year for the Clemson program. They bring a lot back and are pretty highly rated, can they compete to win it all. When comparing Clemson to other SEC schools, convince me going forward (especially outside of the Dabo glory years) they aren't Auburn.

Let it be known I would love to know what happened from 2013 to now that has turned WVU from being interviewed to not even getting mentioned by anyone SEC. And who needs a baseball bat taken to the back of the head in the state for failure to reach whatever reports SEC would have asked for. UNC is what UNC has always been a basketball first school who occasionally have a decent football run. They're not the sleeping giant that Rutgers use to be advertised as every year but they're not getting to that "protected" blue blood status for football only. FSU and Clemson brings huge brand recognition that no one else (except ND) does at this point.

[bucksfan2]

Let it be known I would love to know what happened from 2013 to now that has turned WVU from being interviewed to not even getting mentioned by anyone SEC. And who needs a baseball bat taken to the back of the head in the state for failure to reach whatever reports SEC would have asked for. UNC is what UNC has always been a basketball first school who occasionally have a decent football run. They're not the sleeping giant that Rutgers use to be advertised as every year but they're not getting to that "protected" blue blood status for football only. FSU and Clemson brings huge brand recognition that no one else (except ND) does at this point.

While its not everything, the combined population of Tallahassee, Clemson and Greenville SC are half that of Raleigh, NC. And if you throw Charlotte into the mix, you are talking about 1.5 million people within a two hours drive of UNC.

You are correct in that UNC is a basketball first school, but I think UNC and the state of NC could be a sleeping giant for football.

Clemson and FSU are national brands for sure. I wonder if that is more due to a coach, or to the school. I mean we are over a decade since Jamis won his title at FSU, and Bobby Bowden coached almost decades ago.

Sadly I think WVU's days of being considered for a larger conference are behind them.

[kaldaniels]

Deion going to have a press conference relating to his health tomorrow…

[Sea Ray]

Deion going to have a press conference relating to his health tomorrow…

His leg?

[Kingspoint]

Deion going to have a press conference relating to his health tomorrow…

:(

[Chip R]

UNC probably makes more sense than any other ACC team. Its the "state" school in a growing state. Of all the teams out there that have had a pretty vanilla football history, UNC may be the one that could rise (FWIW I don't know if Belichick is the guy to do that.) 15 years from now, it wouldn't surprise me if UNC is the best team out of the collection of current ACC teams.


Yeah, I think the SCE may want to put a pin on that and wait to see how long Belichick sticks around.

[bucksfan2]

Yeah, I think the SCE may want to put a pin on that and wait to see how long Belichick sticks around.

Its not Belichick, its the program as well as inroads into North Carolina. Both the B1G and SEC want to expand their footprint, and you are doing that by getting UNC, not NC State or Duke. Its kinda why Virginia and UNC are desirable, because both expand the footprint to two populous states with pretty good high school football.

[Sea Ray]

Deion going to have a press conference relating to his health tomorrow…

He had bladder cancer and it appears that he will fully recover


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[Slyder]

Lots of Rumors flying about the next round of College Musical Chairs...

To B1G: FSU and Clemson (the SEC coalition hung together).
To SEC: UVa and UNC
To Big 12: Louisville and Cryami

are the early calls.

[Assembly Hall]

Kelly getting LSU into position for a title run...

https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/lsu-rb-jt-lindsey-surrenders-after-warrant-alleges-he-harbored-two-murder-suspects-in-on-campus-dorm/

[Sea Ray]

Preseason AP poll is out. 10 of the top 25 teams are SEC. Gonna be another rough year playing in that conference

https://apnews.com/live/ap-top-25-college-football-poll?utm_source=onesignal&utm_medium=push&utm_campaign=2025-08-11-AP+Top+25+poll

[RedTeamGo!]

:laugh:

[RedTeamGo!]

Did anyone start watching that SEC series on netflix?

I like how it starts out with a montage of a bunch of hillbillies from the south talking about how it just means more in the SEC and how much better the conference is than every other conference. Than the first game it shows is LSU losing to Southern Cal lolllll and then the series ends by showing Tennessee getting absolutely destroyed by Ohio State.

Meanwhile, the last 2 champs were B1G teams and the SEC has not even gotten a team to the championship game either year.

But yeah, 10 of the top 25 are from that conference. Righttttt.

[Sea Ray]

Did anyone start watching that SEC series on netflix?

I like how it starts out with a montage of a bunch of hillbillies from the south talking about how it just means more in the SEC and how much better the conference is than every other conference. Than the first game it shows is LSU losing to Southern Cal lolllll and then the series ends by showing Tennessee getting absolutely destroyed by Ohio State.

Meanwhile, the last 2 champs were B1G teams and the SEC has not even gotten a team to the championship game either year.

But yeah, 10 of the top 25 are from that conference. Righttttt.

I did not see that series on Netflix...but yeah, 10 of the top 25 teams are from the SEC going into the season according to AP. That's a fact

[RedTeamGo!]

I did not see that series on Netflix...but yeah, 10 of the top 25 teams are from the SEC going into the season according to AP. That's a fact

Yes, a ranking that means absolutely nothing ranked 10 SEC teams in the top 25 yet again, like it does every year. Cool fact.

[Sea Ray]

Yes, a ranking that means absolutely nothing ranked 10 SEC teams in the top 25 yet again, like it does every year. Cool fact.

It does leave a lot of room and time for Big Ten teams to climb. You have that to make you feel all warm and fuzzy

[RedTeamGo!]

It does leave a lot of room and time for Big Ten teams to climb. You have that to make you feel all warm and fuzzy

Oh I couldn't care less, I just find it hilarious that the SEC slappies are still holding the AP preseason top 25 tight to their chests like a life preserver.

[Sea Ray]

Oh I couldn't care less, I just find it hilarious that the SEC slappies are still holding the AP preseason top 25 tight to their chests like a life preserver.

I hold the college football season tight to my chest. Glad we're close enough to begin talking about it. I know who I'm talking to. In just a couple posts you've engaged in name calling..."slappies" and hillbillies. My spellcheck is kicking out the former. If I cared about name calling I'd ask what a slappy is but I don't. I don't know what it is about you that you must resort to name calling but I have some guesses

[RedTeamGo!]

I hold the college football season tight to my chest. Glad we're close enough to begin talking about it. I know who I'm talking to. In just a couple posts you've engaged in name calling..."slappies" and hillbillies. My spellcheck is kicking out the former. If I cared about name calling I'd ask what a slappy is but I don't. I don't know what it is about you that you must resort to name calling but I have some guesses

Name calling people that aren’t reading this? :laugh:

[Boston Red]

Texas is the first preseason #1 to be an underdog in their first game.

That might be an interesting game. If you like that sort of thing.

[Sea Ray]

Texas is the first preseason #1 to be an underdog in their first game.

That might be an interesting game. If you like that sort of thing.

It should be a fun opening game. With current rules it's not going to be a critical game for either team. The loser could very well beat the winner when it counts in the playoffs. Kinda like Tenn vs UK in basketball this year

[Boston Red]

It could absolutely be critical for Texas. If they lose in the Shoe, they could absolutely lose 4 times and find themselves outside the playoff. Ohio State would have to try pretty hard to lose more than 2 of their non-Texas games.

[*BaseClogger*]

It could absolutely be critical for Texas. If they lose in the Shoe, they could absolutely lose 4 times and find themselves outside the playoff. Ohio State would have to try pretty hard to lose more than 2 of their non-Texas games.

Are you saying Texas has a significantly more difficult schedule? Because I’m not seeing it.

[Boston Red]

Are you saying Texas has a significantly more difficult schedule? Because I’m not seeing it.

I think their schedule has more loseable games, yes. Penn State is probably the best team either of them play outside of each other, and Michigan is always good....but do you really believe in Illinois? Who else on Ohio State's schedule could beat them?

[*BaseClogger*]

I think their schedule has more loseable games, yes. Penn State is probably the best team either of them play outside of each other, and Michigan is always good....but do you really believe in Illinois? Who else on Ohio State's schedule could beat them?

Illinois on the road is as tough as Texas’s third most difficult game. I wouldn’t sleep on unsexy teams like Illinois after what we’ve seen the past two seasons.

[Assembly Hall]

Illinois on the road is as tough as Texas’s third most difficult game. I wouldn’t sleep on unsexy teams like Illinois after what we’ve seen the past two seasons.

I just can't get onboard about Illinois after almost getting beat by Purdue last year.

[Sea Ray]

It could absolutely be critical for Texas. If they lose in the Shoe, they could absolutely lose 4 times and find themselves outside the playoff. Ohio State would have to try pretty hard to lose more than 2 of their non-Texas games.

If Texas loses 4 games they don't deserve to be in the playoffs and heads should roll

[RedTeamGo!]

I just can't get onboard about Illinois after almost getting beat by Purdue last year.

Eh, everyone has stinkers - see OSU vs Nebraska last year - the Purdue game was the week before Michigan, a game in which they physically manhandled UM. I think they were looking ahead.

[Assembly Hall]

Eh, everyone has stinkers - see OSU vs Nebraska last year - the Purdue game was the week before Michigan, a game in which they physically manhandled UM. I think they were looking ahead.

Meh. Illinois also lucked out against Nebraska last year. Manhandled Michigan? Wow.

[Boston Red]

Yeah, Michigan wasn't very good last year, so does Illinois really get a lot of credit for beating them 21-7?

[RedTeamGo!]

Yeah, Michigan wasn't very good last year, so does Illinois really get a lot of credit for beating them 21-7?

Yes, absolutely.

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Meh. Illinois also lucked out against Nebraska last year. Manhandled Michigan? Wow.

They looked a lot better against Michigan than Indiana did

[Assembly Hall]

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They looked a lot better against Michigan than Indiana did

Too use your rationale...IU was looking ahead to Ohio St.

[Sea Ray]

How does this work?


Syracuse transfer DE David Reese is set for his EIGHTH college season

https://x.com/YahooSports/status/1955025004623433993?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5 Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1955025004623433993%7Ctwgr% 5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=

[RedTeamGo!]

Too use your rationale...IU was looking ahead to Ohio St.

Michigan on road is a bitttttt different than Purdue lol

[RedTeamGo!]

How does this work?



https://x.com/YahooSports/status/1955025004623433993?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5 Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1955025004623433993%7Ctwgr% 5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=

Eligibility Rules in 2025:

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I think every player should get 5 years to play 4 seasons. This 8, 9 year stuff is complete nonsense. These are grown ass men.

[RedTeamGo!]

Sounds like UM is just getting a huge fine for cheating. So, basically, you are allowed to cheat in college football now as long as you have deep pockets and are a-ok with paying a fine lol

[Boston Red]

Now that actual laws are being applied to college sports, no one really knows the rules and which ones are enforceable.

[RedTeamGo!]

Yep, like I said, you can now cheat, no repercussions.

[RiverRat13]

Self-reporting violations should be cause for termination for any power conference athletic director.

[kaldaniels]

I was totally expecting this so no outage from me today.

There are no consequences for cheating. Have at it gentlemen. Just win baby.

[Sea Ray]

I'm not at all surprised. No biggie

[RedTeamGo!]

I was totally expecting this so no outage from me today.

There are no consequences for cheating. Have at it gentlemen. Just win baby.

Yep, OSU should immediately close their compliance office. Zero reason to have it.

[Assembly Hall]

Yep, like I said, you can now cheat, no repercussions.

Go Blue!

[NorthBerg]

Now that actual laws are being applied to college sports, no one really knows the rules and which ones are enforceable.


Best answer. Michigan was adjudicated to be guilty as charged, but the NCAA has been neutered over court decisions involving NIL, transfers and revenue sharing.

Best thing to restore law and order in CFB, the P4 conferences need to form their own governing body, recognize players as employees, then negotiate a collective bargaining agreement setting forth enforceable rights and rules. Typing that makes me fee ill, but that is the only way I see to get out of the wild west of no rules.

As an Ohio State fan, the program needs to move on from SignGate. Michigan has lived rent free in Ryan Day's mind for four years .

[Todd Gack]

Sounds like UM is just getting a huge fine for cheating. So, basically, you are allowed to cheat in college football now as long as you have deep pockets and are a-ok with paying a fine lol

This tells me the NCAA has finally realized that vacating wins, suspending coaches, and post season bans are worthless. The fines aren't nothing. In fact, they may be something that they won't really feel until a year or two from now. Some may say that the money isn't a big deal but when you're competing against the likes of Texas, Ohio State, etc at the highest levels of college football, they will mean something when it comes to competing for players they may want. And, this will have an impact on the rest of their athletic department/programs over the next few years. Now, UM fans may be fine with that but if you actually care about the univeristy as whole, it's a big deal.

[RedTeamGo!]

This tells me the NCAA has finally realized that vacating wins, suspending coaches, and post season bans are worthless. The fines aren't nothing. In fact, they may be something that they won't really feel until a year or two from now. Some may say that the money isn't a big deal but when you're competing against the likes of Texas, Ohio State, etc at the highest levels of college football, they will mean something when it comes to competing for players they may want. And, this will have an impact on the rest of their athletic department/programs over the next few years. Now, UM fans may be fine with that but if you actually care about the univeristy as whole, it's a big deal.

The fine is meaningless:

The University of Michigan (U-M) endowment, known as the University Endowment Fund (UEF), is a significant financial asset that plays a vital role in supporting the university's mission and operations. Here's a breakdown of its key aspects:
Value and Ranking
As of June 30, 2024, the UEF was valued at $19.2 billion.
It consistently ranks among the top 10 largest endowments in the nation, and is the third-largest among public universities in the United States.

[KronoRed]

I'm not sure what punishment can really be done anymore, a loss of scholarships can be run over by paying guys to be walks on, TV bans are gone because the conferences hated them, vacating wins is and always has been dumb, so what punishments would work?

[RedTeamGo!]

I'm not sure what punishment can really be done anymore, a loss of scholarships can be run over by paying guys to be walks on, TV bans are gone because the conferences hated them, vacating wins is and always has been dumb, so what punishments would work?

Postseason ban

[Sea Ray]

I'm not sure what punishment can really be done anymore, a loss of scholarships can be run over by paying guys to be walks on, TV bans are gone because the conferences hated them, vacating wins is and always has been dumb, so what punishments would work?

Ban them from postseason play. No Bowls or playoffs. That’d sting


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[Assembly Hall]

I see some have picked Texas Tech as the Big 12 champ...

https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/quinten-joyner-injury-texas-tech-running-back-hurts-knee-will-miss-entire-2025-season/

[Boston Red]

The Big XII is fairly wide open. A lot of really good teams and no great ones (I don't think). Weird to have such a huge conference game played on August 23rd in Dublin!

[Sea Ray]

The Big XII is fairly wide open. A lot of really good teams and no great ones (I don't think). Weird to have such a huge conference game played on August 23rd in Dublin!

It'll be interesting to see what Deion comes up with in Colorado given his draft departures and his health challenges since last yr

[Assembly Hall]

It'll be interesting to see what Deion comes up with in Colorado given his draft departures and his health challenges since last yr

The Buffs got 1 vote in the AP poll. 12 votes in the Coaches. CBS has them #46 between Tulane and Vandy.

[KronoRed]

SEC stops looking stupid, will finally move to 9 games. (https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/46042216/sec-go-9-game-conference-schedule-starting-2026)

ACC will keep looking stupid and stay at 8.

[bucksfan2]

SEC stops looking stupid, will finally move to 9 games. (https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/46042216/sec-go-9-game-conference-schedule-starting-2026)

ACC will keep looking stupid and stay at 8.

This was a long time coming, especially with playoff expansion. I do like what the SEC did in making it a requirement that you play one more power 4 opponent. I know at one time the B1G required that, but I don't know if they do anymore.

[Boston Red]

The fine is meaningless:

The University of Michigan (U-M) endowment, known as the University Endowment Fund (UEF), is a significant financial asset that plays a vital role in supporting the university's mission and operations. Here's a breakdown of its key aspects:
Value and Ranking
As of June 30, 2024, the UEF was valued at $19.2 billion.
It consistently ranks among the top 10 largest endowments in the nation, and is the third-largest among public universities in the United States.

Not that i think Michigan is going to have trouble coming up with 30 large, but I just read this in the WSJ, and I thought it was interesting as it relates to your point on endowments:

On average, in fiscal 2024, educational endowments with more than $5 billion in assets held only 2% in cash, 6% in bonds, 8% in U.S. stocks and 16% in international stocks, according to the National Association of College and University Business Officers. That left two-thirds of their total holdings in private funds and other non-traditional assets that can’t readily be turned into cash.

[RedTeamGo!]

There are rumors that Larry Ellison is paying it off for Michigan, It is like him throwing a dollar into a storm drain for him.

[Boston Red]

I'm going to need to see some pictures of this wife of his. She must be something pretty special for all this.

Fourth time's the charm!

[Slyder]

I'm going to need to see some pictures of this wife of his. She must be something pretty special for all this.

Fourth time's the charm!

https://www.bing.com/search?q=Larry+Ellison+current+wife&FORM=R5FD1

[Boston Red]

Sloppy, ugly game in Dublin. Not surprising given that it's August 23.

[WVRed]

Sloppy, ugly game in Dublin. Not surprising given that it's August 23.And just like that the over is in play.

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[Boston Red]

Over is lost because of the replay. (I didn't bet that either way)

[Assembly Hall]

Over is lost because of the replay. (I didn't bet that either way)

I took Iowa St. and the points. Now to keep that mojo going.

[RedTeamGo!]

I'm going to need to see some pictures of this wife of his. She must be something pretty special for all this.

Fourth time's the charm!

She’s really not that attractive, it’s bizarre

[Boston Red]

She’s really not that attractive, it’s bizarre

On the other hand, he's 81.

[Boston Red]

UNLV embarrassing themselves against Idaho State.

[KronoRed]

UNLV embarrassing themselves against Idaho State.

The Mullen ERA begins.

[Slyder]

On the other hand, he's 81.

But he's loaded. A lot of women would throw themselves in front of him for a "dig".

[Assembly Hall]

Texas A&M is #1...

https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/no-youre-overrated-a-study-of-college-footballs-10-most-overhyped-teams-over-the-last-decade/

[bucksfan2]

She’s really not that attractive, it’s bizarre

She is attractive, but not the face that launched a thousand ships attractive!

[WVRed]

Curious to hear the Ohio State side of this:

https://nypost.com/2025/08/26/sports/dave-portnoy-banned-from-ohio-states-stadium-for-fox-appearance/

Apparently Ohio State is putting it on Fox not letting Portnoy on the set. Of course the "Ohio St is Soft" accusations are coming on full blast.

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[Boston Red]

Seems like a silly non-troversy benefitting a bunch of people with a lot of air time to fill.

[RedTeamGo!]

Curious to hear the Ohio State side of this:

https://nypost.com/2025/08/26/sports/dave-portnoy-banned-from-ohio-states-stadium-for-fox-appearance/

Apparently Ohio State is putting it on Fox not letting Portnoy on the set. Of course the "Ohio St is Soft" accusations are coming on full blast.

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sounds like manufactured controversy by Fox.

[Assembly Hall]

sounds like manufactured controversy by Fox.

Fox own the New York Post?

[bucksfan2]

Curious to hear the Ohio State side of this:

https://nypost.com/2025/08/26/sports/dave-portnoy-banned-from-ohio-states-stadium-for-fox-appearance/

Apparently Ohio State is putting it on Fox not letting Portnoy on the set. Of course the "Ohio St is Soft" accusations are coming on full blast.

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It wasn't OSU, it was a FOX thing. They are only having the Big Noon Set guys enter the stadium, Portnoy isn't going to be on that set to start the season.

On Portnoy in general, OSU has carried the B1G for decades now. They are the team that constantly plays in the Big Noon slot, especially at home. Fox decides to bring in a guy with a checkered past like Portnoy, and someone who will troll OSU every time he gets a chance. I know they want to combat what ESPN has with McAfee, but I just don't think Portnoy is that guy.

And FWIW OSU had delt with Desmond Howard for years on Gameday, and they have allowed him in the stadium.

[RedTeamGo!]

Fox own the New York Post?

Literally Yes


The New York Post is owned by Rupert Murdoch's News Corp, which purchased the newspaper in 1976 and has held ownership since. The Post operates under News Corp's subsidiary, the New York Post Media Group, and is known for its tabloid format and conservative political stance.

Fox:


The company is controlled by the Murdoch family via a family trust with 39.6% ownership share, and by Rupert Murdoch himself to the effect of almost 40%. Rupert Murdoch is chairman emeritus, while his son Lachlan Murdoch is chairman and CEO. Financials as of fiscal year ended June 30, 2024.

[Assembly Hall]

CBS QB rankings...

https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/college-football-qb-power-rankings-cade-klubnik-drew-allar-top-expanded-preseason-list-of-50-signal-callers/

[Roy Tucker]

Can I say the noon game time for OSU-Texas is stupid?

[Boston Red]

There's a lot of (generally terrible) college football on tonight. Cincinnati/Nebraska in Arrowhead is the highlight, I guess. NC State/ECU is a bit of an under the radar rivalry. Those folks hate each other (though NC State fans pretend they're too big to care). Boise State/USF might be a good game if Boise State isn't going to be very good this year.

[RedTeamGo!]

There's a lot of (generally terrible) college football on tonight. Cincinnati/Nebraska in Arrowhead is the highlight, I guess. NC State/ECU is a bit of an under the radar rivalry. Those folks hate each other (though NC State fans pretend they're too big to care). Boise State/USF might be a good game if Boise State isn't going to be very good this year.

I am hoping Miami OH gives Wisconsin a fight/beats them. Would be hilarious and would probably be the beginning of the end for Fickel

[Assembly Hall]

I am hoping Miami OH gives Wisconsin a fight/beats them. Would be hilarious and would probably be the beginning of the end for Fickel

Have you looked at Wiscy's schedule? Imo they will be lucky to finish .500 and that would need a win over the Redhawks.

[RedTeamGo!]

Have you looked at Wiscy's schedule? Imo they will be lucky to finish .500 and that would need a win over the Redhawks.

Yep, its gonna be a really rough year

[*BaseClogger*]

There's a lot of (generally terrible) college football on tonight. Cincinnati/Nebraska in Arrowhead is the highlight, I guess. NC State/ECU is a bit of an under the radar rivalry. Those folks hate each other (though NC State fans pretend they're too big to care). Boise State/USF might be a good game if Boise State isn't going to be very good this year.

As a B1G fan I'm interested in seeing how Minnesota and Wisconsin look. Buffalo and Miami were some of the better MAC teams last year.

[Assembly Hall]

As a B1G fan I'm interested in seeing how Minnesota and Wisconsin look. Buffalo and Miami were some of the better MAC teams last year.

The Bobcats looking good thus far.

[*BaseClogger*]

The Bobcats looking good thus far.

Just barely came up short. Buffalo and Miami are both down a field goal currently too.

[Boston Red]

Cincinnati seems like a team coached by Scott Satterfield.

[Assembly Hall]

Cincinnati seems like a team coached by Scott Satterfield.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaf/2025/08/25/college-football-coaches-hot-seat/85339704007/

[KronoRed]

FCS over FBS as Tarleton State beats Army

[LiferJim]

Oh.. Baby!


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[MWM]

Arch Manning looks so bad.

[RedTeamGo!]

Folks, I think the OSU defense is decently good this year. My goodness.

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Arch Manning looks so bad.

I think this secondary is playing lights out

[LiferJim]

Folks, I think the OSU defense is decently good this year. My goodness.

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I think this secondary is playing lights out

No doubt. Imagine when the offense really starts clicking


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[Boston Red]

Ohio State will need one first down.

[Boston Red]

Arch with a chance to prove he doesn't actually suck.

[RedTeamGo!]

Not a great feeling about this

[LiferJim]

Hopefully the prevent doesn’t prevent another win


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[Boston Red]

Arch will eventually be good, but good Lord was he garbage today.

[Roy Tucker]

Julian Sayin is a baby. So young.

[RedTeamGo!]

Not a great feeling about this

Nevermind, that was just indigestion

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Arch will eventually be good, but good Lord was he garbage today.

Ehhhhh, give some credit to the Buckeye secondary. They looked great

[Boston Red]

The secondary was good but had nothing to do with him throwing behind his wide open receiver on third down in the potential tying drive.

[Roy Tucker]

Arch will eventually be good, but good Lord was he garbage today.

He made some great throws but he made too many bad throws on plays he should make. Curious play calling by Texas in the red zone.

I think OSU protected Sayin a lot and managed the score. Got a little worrisome at the end but the Buckeye defense was good.

[LiferJim]

A win is a win! Overall, great performance by the defense today.


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[Roy Tucker]

A win is a win! Overall, great performance by the defense today.


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100% agree. Texas defense is excellent. Buckeye defense was better.

OSU should have some games now where Sayin can get some reps against lesser defenses.

[LiferJim]

100% agree. Texas defense is excellent. Buckeye defense was better.

OSU should have some games now where Sayin can get some reps against lesser defenses.

Yes. Got to hand to that kid today as like you said, Texas defense is very good and he showed a lot of poise, without any big mistakes.

Some games against the lesser opponents will do a world of good for his confidence and help prepare him for better opponents later this season.


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[Boston Red]

Toledo blew a golden chance to get a win over an SEC team.

[Boston Red]

DeBoer gets fired when?

[WVRed]

DeBoer gets fired when?If Bama fans have any say, Lane Kiffin at USC style.

If anyone wants to believe college sports is in bed with the sportsbooks, this is the game to point to with all the money flowing to Bama this week.

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[Boston Red]

There's nothing more believable in the world than dumb public money on Alabama. I'd have a hard time even making up a conspiracy theory based on that.

[WVRed]

There's nothing more believable in the world than dumb public money on Alabama. I'd have a hard time even making up a conspiracy theory based on that.Ok, you got me there.

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[WVRed]

Spoke too soon. Bama is making a game of it.

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[Assembly Hall]

Spoke too soon. Bama is making a game of it.

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Fire DeBoer!

[Boston Red]

Fire DeBoer!

Well deserved.

Apparently Saban really is that good, because in my lifetime (I'm 48) Alabama has been a pretty ordinary program when anyone other than Saban was their coach.

[WVRed]

Well deserved.

Apparently Saban really is that good, because in my lifetime (I'm 48) Alabama has been a pretty ordinary program when anyone other than Saban was their coach.What do Bama fans and maggots have in common?

Both can live off a dead Bear for 40 years.

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[Danny Serafini]

Saban vs. unranked teams at Alabama: 124-4
DeBoer vs. unranked teams at Alabama: 6-4

[Assembly Hall]

Saban vs. unranked teams at Alabama: 124-4
DeBoer vs. unranked teams at Alabama: 6-4

And so it begins...

https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/kalen-deboer-not-up-to-standard-of-following-nick-saban-you-have-to-be-a-different-breed-to-survive/

[Stray]

I like like 5 mins from Clemson. You would not believe the crowd that amassed in that small town today. They were ready to explode, and Clemson gave them very little to cheer about. Big time win for LSU.

[Stray]

Saban vs. unranked teams at Alabama: 124-4
DeBoer vs. unranked teams at Alabama: 6-4

He may be a fine coach, but he's in way over his head at Bama. Prolly best for Bama to just rip the band-aid off when they get to two or three unspeakable losses and are out of the race entirely.

[dabvu2498]

If you want a crazy gambling conspiracy, Charleston Southern kicked a field goal with 7 seconds left in the game to make the final score 45-3. The line was 42.5.

[RedTeamGo!]

I like like 5 mins from Clemson. You would not believe the crowd that amassed in that small town today. They were ready to explode, and Clemson gave them very little to cheer about. Big time win for LSU.

Is it a big time win for LSU? Clemson has been pretty mid for years now. Mostly because Dabo refuses to acknowledge the present day college football landscape. Clemson’s offense is trash.

[Assembly Hall]

Is it a big time win for LSU? Clemson has been pretty mid for years now. Mostly because Dabo refuses to acknowledge the present day college football landscape. Clemson’s offense is trash.

Well I imagine LSU is ecstatic just to win the opener regardless of the opponent. They usually find a way to piss that first one away.

[RedTeamGo!]

Well I imagine LSU is ecstatic just to win the opener regardless of the opponent. They usually find a way to piss that first one away.

Fair enough

[Boston Red]

Looks like Belichick is picking up right where he left off in New England.

[Reds Freak]

Looks like Belichick is picking up right where he left off in New England.

It's just one game in his first year, but it'll be interesting to see how schools handle wastes tens of millions of dollars into football coaching staffs and GMs and rosters when it doesn't work out at all. Especially if other programs get peanuts and the university lays off more and more faculty and makes academic cuts left and right.

[bucksfan2]

Is it a big time win for LSU? Clemson has been pretty mid for years now. Mostly because Dabo refuses to acknowledge the present day college football landscape. Clemson’s offense is trash.

I thought Clemson was the team this year that was over rated at the start. They had a pretty blah season last year, but beat SMU in the ACC title game and made the playoff. It seemed like everyone jumped on their bandwagon, especially with Klubnick coming back. They should be able to run through the ACC without much of a challenge (not buying the Miami or FSU hype....yet) but we will see how they look when they play a top tier team again.

[Assembly Hall]

Looks like Belichick is picking up right where he left off in New England.

And the 49ers are chomping at the bit.

[Assembly Hall]

I thought Clemson was the team this year that was over rated at the start. They had a pretty blah season last year, but beat SMU in the ACC title game and made the playoff. It seemed like everyone jumped on their bandwagon, especially with Klubnick coming back. They should be able to run through the ACC without much of a challenge (not buying the Miami or FSU hype....yet) but we will see how they look when they play a top tier team again.

I am curious to see how Clemson fares at Ga. Tech here in a couple weeks. But that was still a huge win for Kelly and LSU.

[Sea Ray]

Nice to see that there are actually some competitive games on the NCAA schedule the first 2 weeks. A lot of times it's a struggle to find watchable games

[bucksfan2]

I am curious to see how Clemson fares at Ga. Tech here in a couple weeks. But that was still a huge win for Kelly and LSU.

Here is where I am at with LSU and Clemson. Both were starting QB's who were old. Nussmeier has been at LSU for 5 years or so. Klubnick has been a 3 year starter at Clemson. Both of those offenses should have been more ready to go than say OSU and Texas starting two first time starting QB's. When you have an old/established QB, the first few weeks should be less clunky than teams with new QB's. LSU gets the big marquee win which should help if/when they suffer 2-3 SEC losses to get into the playoff. I still think Clemson makes the playoff, but I do wonder if they are any different than they were thought of last year.

[Kingspoint]

And the 49ers are chomping at the bit.

Rome wasn't built in a day.

[Assembly Hall]

Rome wasn't built in a day.

True but with all the money UNC gave Caesar Belicheatus you think they could have gotten at least a sidewalk after about 9 months on the job.

[GAC]

Fire DeBoer!

I liken Saban leaving, and 'Bama's subsequent "demise" ... to that of Nebraska and Tom Osbourne retiring. They were never the same. Which tells us how good these two coaches were.

DeBoer's in a bad spot! How do you follow up on the closest thing to perfection? LOL

[Sea Ray]

I guess this is why Skip Bayless is unemployed these days

22998

[Slyder]

I guess this is why Skip Bayless is unemployed these days

22998

He's the white Stephen A. Smith, and they are a sports version of Howard Stern (along with Colin Blowhard). They're job is to get people to do what you shared here. Bayless has been a buffoon long before now but if you look at his clout chasing it usually involves the Cowboys ("America's Team"), LeBron, or whatever is popular at that time and he tries to get people irate. He makes money for every click, every soundbite, every outrageous statement.

[Sea Ray]

He's the white Stephen A. Smith, and they are a sports version of Howard Stern (along with Colin Blowhard). They're job is to get people to do what you shared here. Bayless has been a buffoon long before now but if you look at his clout chasing it usually involves the Cowboys ("America's Team"), LeBron, or whatever is popular at that time and he tries to get people irate. He makes money for every click, every soundbite, every outrageous statement.

He didn't make any money off of me. I just copy/pasted. I don't think he wants to make a living off of being wrong. He just really screwed this one up

[Slyder]

He didn't make any money off of me. I just copy/pasted. I don't think he wants to make a living off of being wrong. He just really screwed this one up

Somebody still had to share that to get where you could see it. He still gets paid for the click/share so while you may not have necessarily clicked it someone did and gave him the publicity he needs.

[bucksfan2]

I liken Saban leaving, and 'Bama's subsequent "demise" ... to that of Nebraska and Tom Osbourne retiring. They were never the same. Which tells us how good these two coaches were.

DeBoer's in a bad spot! How do you follow up on the closest thing to perfection? LOL

I think the difference between Bama and Nebraska is that you can still win titles at Bama where the deck is substantially stacked against you in Nebraska. I think the sustained excellence is gone with Saben out the door, but I don't foresee Bama slipping to Nebraska status anytime soon. I think Bama is more like Florida or FSU, you can win with great coaches, but if you hire the wrong guy, it can get ugly fast.

I would put Bama as a top 10 job in CFB, but I would rank it behind places like OSU, Texas, and Georgia.

[Slyder]

I liken Saban leaving, and 'Bama's subsequent "demise" ... to that of Nebraska and Tom Osbourne retiring. They were never the same. Which tells us how good these two coaches were.

DeBoer's in a bad spot! How do you follow up on the closest thing to perfection? LOL

This is the thing I don't get about some coaches coming/going. Money is nice but it isn't everything. Look at Rich Rod. Had he stayed at WVU and for the sake of this post actually broke through with Pat White and Company and won in 2008... He'd be a deity in this state and probably in the talk for running for governor or whatever political office/position he wants. WVU would be the "Rich Rod job" like Michigan had Bo and Lloyd Carr, OSU had Tressel and Woody. No matter what Rich Rod had accomplished at Michigan he still would be victim of the past and what have you done for me lately. Granted it's a little different scenario now where schools like Alabama can't build 3rd teams that would beat many d1 starting lineups.

[Sea Ray]

Somebody still had to share that to get where you could see it. He still gets paid for the click/share so while you may not have necessarily clicked it someone did and gave him the publicity he needs.

I get it all that. My points still stand

[Assembly Hall]

DeBoer is a damn fine ball coach. He just might not work at Bama. Kiffin and Sark are examples of this.

[Sea Ray]

DeBoer is a damn fine ball coach. He just might not work at Bama. Kiffin and Sark are examples of this.

I'm not sure he's a head coach. But it's true that anybody following Saban was going to fail. Whatever. He's set for life financially just for trying. Might as well take on the challenge

[Assembly Hall]

I'm not sure he's a head coach. But it's true that anybody following Saban was going to fail. Whatever. He's set for life financially just for trying. Might as well take on the challenge

46-14 as a head coach. But yeah, anybody following Saban has their work cut out. He is set for life and will easily find another job if he wants one.

[Boston Red]

OK RichRed, tell me about these James Madison Dukes this year.

[Sea Ray]

I'm amazed how many RZers are giving the 18 pts in picking UC to beat Bowling Green. UC is on a long losing streak. That's a lot of points to give. We'll see

[RedTeamGo!]

I'm amazed how many RZers are giving the 18 pts in picking UC to beat Bowling Green. UC is on a long losing streak. That's a lot of points to give. We'll see

Well, they probably saw that I picked BGSU to cover so they did the opposite. Smart.

[Sea Ray]

Well, they probably saw that I picked BGSU to cover so they did the opposite. Smart.

I'm with you. We'll soon see if we're the idiots. This is what makes sports fun

[*BaseClogger*]

Good MAC teams to cover during non-conference is always smart.

[Boston Red]

The public always goes heavy on favorites.

I revised my first effort, because I guess BGSU may not actually be terrible this year.

[Assembly Hall]

Holtz is at it again...

https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/lou-holtz-renews-feud-with-no-1-ohio-state-ryan-day-theyre-not-a-great-football-team/

[Slyder]

Holtz is at it again...

https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/lou-holtz-renews-feud-with-no-1-ohio-state-ryan-day-theyre-not-a-great-football-team/

Did he get passed up during a hiring search at some point after being an assistant?

[RedTeamGo!]

The public always goes heavy on favorites.

I revised my first effort, because I guess BGSU may not actually be terrible this year.

They haven't been terrible for a couple years. Came close to upsetting Penn State last year.

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Did he get passed up during a hiring search at some point after being an assistant?

I think he is probably upset because Notre Dame has not beaten OSU in his lifetime. And he is 88 years old. ND last beat OSU in 1936.

[RichRed]

OK RichRed, tell me about these James Madison Dukes this year.

JMU was picked by the coaches to win the Sun Belt this year, for whatever that’s worth. Optimism is high after a 9-4 season capped by the first bowl win in program history, despite having a first year coach and dealing with the defection of several of the team’s best players who followed Cignetti to Indiana.

Our starting QB, Alonza Barnett III, has been with the team for 4 years, a rarity these days, although he only saw a handful of snaps his first two years. It was a bit of a surprise when he was named starting QB last year. Most fans thought it would be Dylan Morris, who transferred all the way across the country after backing up Michael Penix at Washington, but he couldn’t get on the field. Barnett responded with a nice season: 60% completion, 2598 yards, 26 TDs, 4 INTs, 7 rushing TDs. He’s only 9 months removed from a torn ACL and he looked okay against FCS Weber State, but we’ll see how it goes against better competition.

Against Weber, JMU alternated between Barnett and Matthew Sluka, which I didn’t care for. Not sure if they plan to make that a regular thing. You might remember Sluka as the guy who left UNLV over an NIL dispute. Before that, he was at Holy Cross under current JMU head coach Bob Chesney.

Chesney is a style departure from Curt Cignetti. He’s all positive reinforcement and high energy, kind of in the Pete Carroll mold, whereas Cignetti is a surly “we sucked even though we won 70-0” kind of guy. The jury is out on whether Chesney can get the same kind of results Cig got.

I’d be surprised if the Dukes - 13.5 point underdogs last time I checked - beat Louisville but I’m hoping for a better showing than the last time they played in 2022, when Louisville won 34-10 during JMU’s transitional first season in FBS.

Some of our fans are talking about going 11–1 or 12-0 and having a shot at the non-power conference slot in the playoffs. I think they’re nuts. But some optimism is warranted with JMU having hit the ground running, going 28-8 in our first three FBS seasons.

Anyway, I hope it’s a good game. Good luck to Louisville (but not too much)!

[Boston Red]

Thanks for the note on JMU RR! I expect it to be a competitive game Friday night. I don't think Louisville is particularly great at this point. Lots of transfers to get going (incluind USC transfer Miller Moss at QB). Isaac Brown is the name you'll want to remember, though. He's Louisville's RB who was amazing as a true freshman last year (1,173 yards and 11 TDs) and ran for 126 yards and 2 TDs on 6 carries last week (EKU, so who really cares). The offensive line has 5 RS-Sr. starters, but they're all transfers who had never played together until last weekend.

Not really sure what the Cards have on defense this year. The first team defense looked pretty strong last week, but again it was against a bad I-AA team. You may remember Clev Lubin from Coastal Carolina. He's the one who looks to be the homewrecker for the Cards on that side of the ball. Front 7 appears to be pretty solid, but the defensive backfield is a major question mark.

I guess we'll know a lot more about both teams by about 11:00 Friday night.

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I'm amazed how many RZers are giving the 18 pts in picking UC to beat Bowling Green. UC is on a long losing streak. That's a lot of points to give. We'll see

That line, by the way, is up to 21.5 points.

[Roy Tucker]

The public always goes heavy on favorites.

I revised my first effort, because I guess BGSU may not actually be terrible this year.

You know, I still agonize over my picks even though there is no money involved. I went back and forth about 20 times with UC and BGSU. I figured UC is going to bust out big or fold like a cheap tent and I went bust out. GAC picks some games that just make me squirm. But it’s fun.

[plantmanky]

DeBoer is a damn fine ball coach. He just might not work at Bama. Kiffin and Sark are examples of this.

Many either forget or dont look at the fact that Saban always had 2-4 Former or soon to be head coaches on this staff at all times. Deboer doesnt have that, it makes a huge difference, huge.

[Slyder]

Many either forget or dont look at the fact that Saban always had 2-4 Former or soon to be head coaches on this staff at all times. Deboer doesnt have that, it makes a huge difference, huge.

He also had "cache" that allowed five star guys to be 3rd team and wait their turn. I swear some of those 2nd and 3rd team offenses and defenses could be most of college football teams of that given year.

[RedTeamGo!]

Many either forget or dont look at the fact that Saban always had 2-4 Former or soon to be head coaches on this staff at all times. Deboer doesnt have that, it makes a huge difference, huge.

Saban also didn't have to deal with NIL. Well, let me rephrase, other teams having NIL. Bama was handing out bags of cash like crazy before NIL became legal. Now they don't have that advantage. Sure, they have a lot of 5 stars on paper, still, but are they the good ones? Two of their 5 stars transferred to Ohio State - Sayin and Downs. Alabama's best player plays for Ohio State now.

[Assembly Hall]

Saban also didn't have to deal with NIL. Well, let me rephrase, other teams having NIL. Bama was handing out bags of cash like crazy before NIL became legal. Now they don't have that advantage. Sure, they have a lot of 5 stars on paper, still, but are they the good ones? Two of their 5 stars transferred to Ohio State - Sayin and Downs. Alabama's best player plays for Ohio State now.

https://x.com/BenScottStevens/status/1963029741709164748?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5 Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1963029741709164748%7Ctwgr% 5E865f2cfadbad9f7f16642245b378c84fb7bd113c%7Ctwcon %5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fbtownbanners.com%2Findex.php %3Fapp%3Dcoremodule%3Dsystemcontroller%3Dembedurl% 3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Ftwitter.com%2FBenScottStevens%2Fst atus%2F1963029741709164748

[bucksfan2]

Saban also didn't have to deal with NIL. Well, let me rephrase, other teams having NIL. Bama was handing out bags of cash like crazy before NIL became legal. Now they don't have that advantage. Sure, they have a lot of 5 stars on paper, still, but are they the good ones? Two of their 5 stars transferred to Ohio State - Sayin and Downs. Alabama's best player plays for Ohio State now.

Saben got the "Saben Discount" what ever you want to consider that. Whether that be under the table, NIL, reclamation project coaches (Kiffen, Sark, didn't Bill O'Brien go there) Saben was able to get that all for cheaper than market value because of his success.

I think three things happened that really pushed him towards the door:

1. Dude got old. Father time is undefeated and Saben is 73 years old.
2. He didn't want to adjust to the NIL area of college football. People forget that hew as a defensive first coach with pretty average offenses for years at Bama. When the game started to lean more offensive, he changed and began to assemble top tier offensive teams. I just don't think he had the desire to change again with the current NIL version of college football. Compounding that is point #1, dude is old.
3. Georgia got its act together. I think Saben was always fine with Florida under Urban for a few years, LSU every 5 years or so with a soon to be fired coach. Georgia was a sleeping giant that awoke under Kirby.

[Assembly Hall]

Just watched Saban on McAffe. Interesting stuff the ball coach talked about. I recommend giving it a watch/listen.

[RedTeamGo!]

https://x.com/BenScottStevens/status/1963029741709164748?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5 Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1963029741709164748%7Ctwgr% 5E865f2cfadbad9f7f16642245b378c84fb7bd113c%7Ctwcon %5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fbtownbanners.com%2Findex.php %3Fapp%3Dcoremodule%3Dsystemcontroller%3Dembedurl% 3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Ftwitter.com%2FBenScottStevens%2Fst atus%2F1963029741709164748

Haha, this got a cackle out of me

[Boston Red]

It's just not possible in the current market for Alabama to compete with BYU. :laugh:

[Boston Red]

I'm hoping James Madison is really, really good. Otherwise....

[RichRed]

I'm hoping James Madison is really, really good. Otherwise....

The D is really flying around. The O, well, isn’t.

[RichRed]

Why Chesney thought he would be the one to break with over 100 years of football history and make a dual QB system work is beyond me.

[Boston Red]

Didn't get to see the game, but the box score says it was way closer than the final score indicates. Seems Brown was kept in check until the 78 yard clincher right at the end. Good luck to the Dukes the rest of the way.

[RichRed]

Didn't get to see the game, but the box score says it was way closer than the final score indicates. Seems Brown was kept in check until the 78 yard clincher right at the end. Good luck to the Dukes the rest of the way.

The Dukes’ D played well enough to win but were kneecapped by a horrific offensive attack. It was a close game until the very end. Louisville’s D was strong and JMU didn’t have an answer. Hope the Cards have a good rest of the season.

[Assembly Hall]

I'm amazed how many RZers are giving the 18 pts in picking UC to beat Bowling Green. UC is on a long losing streak. That's a lot of points to give. We'll see

The line now is Cincinnati -23.5.

[Boston Red]

Dook fans are chanting over-rated at Illinois up 3-0 with 8 minutes to go in the first quarter.

[KronoRed]

Halfway into the 1st Quarter against mighty San Jose St, Manning is 3/6 for 11 yards.



and an 83 yard completion will help that ypc ;)

[Assembly Hall]

Penn St. gonna be dropping in the polls.

[Boston Red]

They'll put a couple of late, cosmetic TDs on it, and no one will really notice.

[Assembly Hall]

They'll put a couple of late, cosmetic TDs on it, and no one will really notice.

And you called it.

[RichRed]

Everybody check in on the Clemson fan in your life. Trailing Troy 16-0 in the 2nd quarter.

[RichRed]

Did Oklahoma State drop down to D-III when I wasn’t looking? Oregon leads 69-3 after three quarters.

[Boston Red]

Everybody check in on the Clemson fan in your life. Trailing Troy 16-0 in the 2nd quarter.

West Virginia, too. Down 17-10 to Ohio late.

[Sea Ray]

The line now is Cincinnati -23.5.

A lot of idiot bettors out there, just lost money


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[Boston Red]

K State about to lose to Army. Rough.

[Slyder]

West Virginia, too. Down 17-10 to Ohio late.

Ohio's D is really good. I'm upset but I kind of saw this coming. Too many new guys, didn't really get that opportunity with Robert Morris. White going down after a horse collar tackle and WVU was 1 dimensional. Our O Line got push around like a bunch of 9th graders in High School.

[Sea Ray]

Damn UCLA is bad


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[Assembly Hall]

Florida Gators...

https://www.cbssports.com/college-football/news/florida-coach-billy-napier-returns-to-the-hot-seat-why-his-escape-route-is-extra-tricky-after-ads-extension/

[Boston Red]

USF at Miami has become an enormous game next Saturday.

[GAC]

Everybody check in on the Clemson fan in your life. Trailing Troy 16-0 in the 2nd quarter.

If Georgia Tech doesn't do them in this coming week, then Syracuse will the following. Other then Furman, Clemson's entire remaining schedule could take them down. ;)

[Assembly Hall]

USF at Miami has become an enormous game next Saturday.

According to what I am seeing, the game will be on the CW.

[Boston Red]

According to what I am seeing, the game will be on the CW.

Certainly no one expected it to be a huge game before the season. Miami is supposed to be 1-1, and USF is supposed to be 0-2.

[WVRed]

Ohio's D is really good. I'm upset but I kind of saw this coming. Too many new guys, didn't really get that opportunity with Robert Morris. White going down after a horse collar tackle and WVU was 1 dimensional. Our O Line got push around like a bunch of 9th graders in High School.Neal Brown left the cupboard more bare than Holgorsen did.

Going to be a long season. RichRod will get it turned around though, just wonder how patient fans are going to be.

Interesting note: the game was scheduled by Shane Lyons when he was AD. Lyons is from Parkersburg which is 45 minutes from Athens. WVU fans scarfed up OU season tickets ($85).

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[Boston Red]

So OU got tons of money and the win? Good for them.

[Sea Ray]

In today’s game with the portal and all, leaving the cupboard bare is no longer an excuse. A good coach would bring in transfers


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[Slyder]

Neal Brown left the cupboard more bare than Holgorsen did.

Going to be a long season. RichRod will get it turned around though, just wonder how patient fans are going to be.

Interesting note: the game was scheduled by Shane Lyons when he was AD. Lyons is from Parkersburg which is 45 minutes from Athens. WVU fans scarfed up OU season tickets ($85).

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In this day and age, any coach doesn't leave the cupboard bare, the players did by transferring. That happens at every school when a new coach comes in because of the NIL. I wish Trotter had stayed he had the potential to be as good as his dad was.

Brown's time at WVU had run its course he wasn't getting WVU past a certain point. He never got that "validation win" that could have changed trajectory. The teams always fought and never quit on him (my thoughts only) but he was not a P4 head coach. The high-water mark for his time at WVU was this game.

https://wvusports.com/sports/football/stats/2021/oklahoma/boxscore/18000

If not for that bad snap, maybe he has his Nehlen moment (beats OU in Norman) and gets the attention to build on.

Follow that up with https://wvusports.com/sports/football/stats/2022/pitt/boxscore/11145

A route we saw Ford-Wheaton run 100 times... bounces right off his chest right to a Pitt defender on the run... ball game.

I'm not going to lie, I was tepid about Rodriguez return already because history has not been kind to these returns. But I also said from the beginning... Any bowl is a good year... you had "fans" predicting 8-9-10 wins and conference championship appearances or they were going to riot. Now how much of that was guys who liked Brown personally... I don't know.

Since Rod left you have to pick one of WVU coaches for the next 5 years (based on the time they were hired) which do you take? Stewart, Holgorsen, or Brown?

Personally Holgorsen, Brown, Stewart. The Fiesta Bowl was a nice moment but to take Pat White and that offense and go 9-4 with a loss to 5-7 COLORADO is disqualifier to me.

[Sea Ray]

I love it

Calls Mount for Major Program to Bench $1.7 Million Quarterback After Just 2 Games


Currently, while Nico Iamaleava is 0-2, former UCLA QB Joey Aguilar, who transferred to Tennessee and essentially swapped places with Iamaleava, is 2-0 and thriving in his first two starts.

https://athlonsports.com/college/ucla-bruins/football/calls-mount-for-major-program-to-bench-1-7-million-quarterback-after-just-2-games

Aside from the greed and all, Nico's just not that good. Having said that, his team, UCLA, is even worse. Horrid P4 team

[Boston Red]

Well, his backup just got arrested on gun charges, so I think Nico's job is safe.

[Sea Ray]

The SEC has 10 teams in the current AP top 25 but I don't know that any of them can beat the B10's top 3

edit:

Make that 11

https://x.com/SEC/status/1964799472594227401?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5 Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1964799472594227401%7Ctwgr% 5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=

[Assembly Hall]

I love it

Calls Mount for Major Program to Bench $1.7 Million Quarterback After Just 2 Games



https://athlonsports.com/college/ucla-bruins/football/calls-mount-for-major-program-to-bench-1-7-million-quarterback-after-just-2-games

Aside from the greed and all, Nico's just not that good. Having said that, his team, UCLA, is even worse. Horrid P4 team

Evidently some schools thought Nico was good enough to throw cash his way. That being said it worked out great for the Vols.

[Sea Ray]

Evidently some schools thought Nico was good enough to throw cash his way. That being said it worked out great for the Vols.

Honestly I think he had slim pickin's after blowing off UT. I don't think he had many offers hence he ended up at a horrible program.

[Assembly Hall]

Honestly I think he had slim pickin's after blowing off UT. I don't think he had many offers hence he ended up at a horrible program.

Who did UT outbid to get him?

[Sea Ray]

Who did UT outbid to get him?

I can't say, it was so long ago. At this point that's irrelevant. Since then we've seen him in a UT uniform and he refused his lucrative NIL deal last Winter. UCLA said "we'll take you at half what UT was paying you." The rest is history. At that point I don't think Nico had a plethora of offers

[Assembly Hall]

I can't say, it was so long ago. At this point that's irrelevant. Since then we've seen him in a UT uniform and he refused his lucrative NIL deal last Winter. UCLA said "we'll take you at half what UT was paying you." The rest is history. At that point I don't think Nico had a plethora of offers

It is relevant in that Nico was fielding offers before settling on the Vols. It made him a commodity and increased his head size. He then tried going after more money from Rocky Top. And that get's us to where we are now. Nico needs to reinvent himself and it ain't gonna be at UCLA. And shame on the Bruins for thinking he could help them.

[bucksfan2]

It is relevant in that Nico was fielding offers before settling on the Vols. It made him a commodity and increased his head size. He then tried going after more money from Rocky Top. And that get's us to where we are now. Nico needs to reinvent himself and it ain't gonna be at UCLA. And shame on the Bruins for thinking he could help them.

I didn't realize Nico was from CA, so going to UCLA makes some sense.

Nico and Tennessee were the perfect marriage at the time because Nico's dad (I believe) wanted as much money as he could get, and Tennessee wanted at top tier QB to get back to relevancy in the SEC. I didn't follow his recruitment so I don't know when most big time teams back off of Nico.

Its kinda a catch 22 with Nico, because he got Tennessee to where they wanted to go, the playoff, but it also gave Huepel the cache to say no one is bigger than the block T. I don't think Tennessee makes that kid of deal anymore, but there will always be players out there like Nico where the talent is overweighed by the handlers demands.

[Sea Ray]

There will always be players where the talent is less than the demands but Nico is in rare territory where a guy walks away from $2 mill/yr. If someone else has done that, I missed it. Particularly since he hadn’t earned a raise


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[Assembly Hall]

I didn't realize Nico was from CA, so going to UCLA makes some sense.

Nico and Tennessee were the perfect marriage at the time because Nico's dad (I believe) wanted as much money as he could get, and Tennessee wanted at top tier QB to get back to relevancy in the SEC. I didn't follow his recruitment so I don't know when most big time teams back off of Nico.

Its kinda a catch 22 with Nico, because he got Tennessee to where they wanted to go, the playoff, but it also gave Huepel the cache to say no one is bigger than the block T. I don't think Tennessee makes that kid of deal anymore, but there will always be players out there like Nico where the talent is overweighed by the handlers demands.

There's a "No 'I' in team" joke in there somewheres...

[bucksfan2]

There's a "No 'I' in team" joke in there somewheres...

It happens to programs all the time. There is a player who is a top recruit, but is a massive headaches. You see a well run programs back off because they don't want to deal with the circus. But there are programs out there who need a shot in the arm, think the talent can put them over the top. Think that they have the program structure to handle the player.

Pre NIL it was an "uncle" or a "handler" who wanted the moon in under the table payments. Auburn famously did it with Cam Newton, and it would out spectacularly for them. Tressel did it with Pryor, while it worked out for a while, it ended blew up spectacularly.

[Assembly Hall]

It happens to programs all the time. There is a player who is a top recruit, but is a massive headaches. You see a well run programs back off because they don't want to deal with the circus. But there are programs out there who need a shot in the arm, think the talent can put them over the top. Think that they have the program structure to handle the player.

Pre NIL it was an "uncle" or a "handler" who wanted the moon in under the table payments. Auburn famously did it with Cam Newton, and it would out spectacularly for them. Tressel did it with Pryor, while it worked out for a while, it ended blew up spectacularly.

I get all that but we are talking Nico and UCLA. Instead of a shot in the arm it was a shot in the head.

[*BaseClogger*]

Let’s let UCLA’s season play out a little bit. They’ve got a tough schedule. If the Bruins can go 5-7 it’s honestly a good season. They should win their next two if that’s going to happen.

[Sea Ray]

Let’s let UCLA’s season play out a little bit. They’ve got a tough schedule. If the Bruins can go 5-7 it’s honestly a good season. They should win their next two if that’s going to happen.

I wouldn't call that a tough schedule. That said, I don't see them winning 4 Big Ten games, even with Northwestern in there.

[Boston Red]

I don't think UCLA is terrible, but I also don't see the path to 5 wins. Their only chance for a road win is Northwestern, and surely at least one of Maryland, Nebraska and Washington is going to win in the Rose Bowl. Perhaps 2 of the 3.

[Sea Ray]

I don't think UCLA is terrible, but I also don't see the path to 5 wins. Their only chance for a road win is Northwestern, and surely at least one of Maryland, Nebraska and Washington is going to win in the Rose Bowl. Perhaps 2 of the 3.

Have you watched any of their games? I have. So far they’re terrible. UNLV tried to give them that game. They do not look like a P4 school


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[Sea Ray]

Yep,


Tennessee won the QB trade with UCLA. Congrats to Joey Aguilar who is taking advantage of Nico making the dumbest decision of the NIL era. Nico took less money to play for a worse coaching staff, worse team & a worse fan base. Aguilar was the big winner.

https://x.com/ClayTravis/status/1965229758486286547?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5 Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1965229758486286547%7Ctwgr% 5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=

[RedTeamGo!]

I like how Tennessee fans have gone from "Nico is young and learning, he is going to be great!" to "see, we told you he sucks!" in like 6 months.

[Sea Ray]

I like how Tennessee fans have gone from "Nico is young and learning, he is going to be great!" to "see, we told you he sucks!" in like 6 months.

There is some truth to that. We are definitely rooting against him. Does this surprise you?

[*BaseClogger*]

I don't think UCLA is terrible, but I also don't see the path to 5 wins. Their only chance for a road win is Northwestern, and surely at least one of Maryland, Nebraska and Washington is going to win in the Rose Bowl. Perhaps 2 of the 3.

Agreed but they have non-zero chance to win against MSU, USC, etc. We'll have to see.

I'd still say lets let things play out more before deciding who won the "QB trade" lol.

Football is very much a team sport so you can't really judge the two players in isolation.