Hoosier Basketball '25-'26: The DeVries era begins

[Assembly Hall]

The new ball coach makes it out of Puerto Rico without any incidents with the police...

https://www.insidethehall.com/2025/08/11/kayaks-and-comebacks-iu-basketball-grows-on-and-off-the-floor-during-great-puerto-rico-trip/?fbclid=IwY2xjawMHW5NleHRuA2FlbQIxMQBicmlkETFqblh4 ekZRU2xjeUJ2S05XAR5sAX47tPuYGYR3TD0SjujGQdcUZbwxjQ KmsgDxEs3ZI4XQHB4hqMWPeeWcOQ_aem_gRcg-ThyYIJQP9TYXmDrcg

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https://x.com/itsantwright/status/1955077836676497775?s=46

https://www.insidethehall.com/2025/08/12/by-the-numbers-how-every-iu-basketball-player-fared-in-puerto-rico/

[dubc47834]

I think Puerto Rico was a great experience for this team. They seam to have bonded well, and Coach D seams(so far) to be a guy who can make adjustments. I still don't have a ton of hopes for this season, but I do think the future is bright for IU fans!

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Upcoming visits:

https://www.insidethehall.com/2025/08/13/iu-basketball-set-for-busy-fall-of-official-visits/

[Assembly Hall]

A couple of walk-ons added...

https://www.insidethehall.com/2025/09/03/iu-basketball-adds-a-pair-of-walk-ons-to-2025-26-roster/

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Getting close...

https://iuhoosiers.com/news/2025/9/10/mens-basketball-hoosier-hoops-on-kirkwood-set-for-october-2

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https://www.thedailyhoosier.com/first-look-indianas-class-of-2020-and-2021-prospects/

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Picked to finish 10th...

https://www.insidethehall.com/2025/10/08/iu-basketball-picked-to-finish-10th-in-the-big-ten-in-official-unofficial-media-poll/

[Assembly Hall]

Hoosiers defeat Baylor 76-74 in a nail biter.

https://stats.statbroadcast.com/statmonitr/?id=612263

[Assembly Hall]

That was refreshing last night. No time to enjoy the cupcake. Marquette in Chicago on Sunday.

https://x.com/indianambb/status/1986284677259202849?s=46

[Assembly Hall]

100-77 over Marquette. Refreshing is the word that comes to mind after suffering through Woodyball.

[Assembly Hall]

The Woodson era is quickly becoming a distant memory. This Hoosier squad has some dudes that can shoot.

[Revering4Blue]

The Woodson era is quickly becoming a distant memory. This Hoosier squad has some dudes that can shoot.

This is exactly why the AD should choose the coach instead of Quinn Buckner and the BOT.


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[Assembly Hall]

Mike Woodson era basketball reared its ugly head earlier tonight. Pitiful showing by my Hoosiers in victory.


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[Assembly Hall]

Another pitiful, embarrassing performance.

[dubc47834]

Another pitiful, embarrassing performance.

1st half was terrible. We are going to get slaughtered on the boards against bigger teams. I like the style of offense and Devries' coaching style so far. We just don't have the type of players quite yet that he needs. This year we are going to have stretches where we look like world beaters, and stretches where we get beat by the bottom of the BIG10.

[Assembly Hall]

I shouldn't beach too much. Last year, these last couple of games prolly would have been loses with Woodson's leadership.

[dubc47834]

I shouldn't beach too much. Last year, these last couple of games prolly would have been loses with Woodson's leadership.

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[Assembly Hall]

Much better showing last night. And I had all but given up on Bailey being a contributor.

[Assembly Hall]

Hoosiers wilting away in their 1st conference game. All our weaknesses got exposed. Gonna be a long year.


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[dubc47834]

Hoosiers wilting away in their 1st conference game. All our weaknesses got exposed. Gonna be a long year.


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I said in an earlier post, there are going to be days where we look like world beaters, and other days where we look like crap. Bigger teams are going to kill us. We are going to have to not turn the ball over and shoot really good this year. Which also means, probably a lot of home wins, and a lot of road L's.

.500 in the Big 10 is probably our ceiling this year!

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[Assembly Hall]

I said in an earlier post, there are going to be days where we look like world beaters, and other days where we look like crap. Bigger teams are going to kill us. We are going to have to not turn the ball over and shoot really good this year. Which also means, probably a lot of home wins, and a lot of road L's.

.500 in the Big 10 is probably our ceiling this year!

.500 in the B1G would be amazing. Pitiful performance last night.

[dubc47834]

.500 in the B1G would be amazing. Pitiful performance last night.

Yes, wasnt a very good performance. Only as close as it was because UK was just barely less pitiful!

[Assembly Hall]

Nice win over the Huskies. It is football season...

[SunDeck]

Nice win over the Huskies. It is football season...I thought so, too. First game I saw and though I'm not seeing a top ten team, it looked like they're a lot better than last year. Just from the perspective of playing from the same book, and having a strong perimeter threat, they looked pretty good.

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[Assembly Hall]

Got to love a 84-66 win at College Park.

[fearofpopvol1]

Going to need it. The next 6 (sans Rutgers) will be brutal.

[dubc47834]

Got to love a 84-66 win at College Park.

Yes it was. We've got to get a few on the road, as we will probably lose a couple at home as well!

[fearofpopvol1]

Felt like the team let the Nebraska game slip. Can't do that at home when you have a highly ranked opponent on the ropes.

[Assembly Hall]

Felt like the team let the Nebraska game slip. Can't do that at home when you have a highly ranked opponent on the ropes.

They let one get away from them for sure. The refs had a hand in it.

[fearofpopvol1]

Looked very competitive until that 19-0 run, but it was over then.

Have to give MSU props though...they looked incredible.

[Assembly Hall]

A must win today, imo, if we have visions of dancing...

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Ready for football season...

[Sea Ray]

Ready for football season...

My how times have changed. Remember the days of Steve Alford?

[Assembly Hall]

My how times have changed. Remember the days of Steve Alford?

The Bob Knight era was a very long time ago. It didn't last forever like I thought it would...

[SunDeck]

The Bob Knight era was a very long time ago. It didn't last forever like I thought it would...If I'm honest, I hope the Cignetti era resets the great coach narrative here, and for what it's worth IU has been blessed with two other, and possibly better generational icons that RMK; Doc Counsilman (swimming), and Jerry Yeagley (soccer), who both won 6 national titles. Additionally, of all IU sports, only soccer has remained elite for a longer period . Swimming is nationally ranked, but has only recently gotten back into the top 10.
I thought Teri Moren was headed there too, but this year's team has exposed flaws. The women's BB program seemed unprepared for portal disruption and fell off a cliff this year. I think she lost players who expect playing time when they are freshmen.

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[Assembly Hall]

If I'm honest, I hope the Cignetti era resets the great coach narrative here, and for what it's worth IU has been blessed with two other, and possibly better generational icons that RMK; Doc Counsilman (swimming), and Jerry Yeagley (soccer), who both won 6 national titles. Additionally, of all IU sports, only soccer has remained elite for a longer period . Swimming is nationally ranked, but has only recently gotten back into the top 10.
I thought Teri Moren was headed there too, but this year's team has exposed flaws. The women's BB program seemed unprepared for portal disruption and fell off a cliff this year. I think she lost players who expect playing time when they are freshmen.

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My point remains. Men's basketball at IU hasn't been relevant since Damon Bailey's last game. Gone are the days of competing for B1G championships regularly and annual trips to the Sweet Sixteen. I did realize that RMK wasn't going to be here forever but what I didn't know was how hard it was going to be to replace him. I look back at these past 30 years of futility and just wish they would have hired Steve Alford.

[RedTeamGo!]

Men's basketball at IU hasn't been relevant since Damon Bailey's last game.

Is there a different Damon Bailey? You are referring to 1994?

They went to the national title game in 2002. Went to the Sweet 16 3 times in the 10's

I think IU is definitely down the past 20 years but hey, at least you aren't Ohio State basketball.

[Assembly Hall]

Is there a different Damon Bailey? You are referring to 1994?

They went to the national title game in 2002. Went to the Sweet 16 3 times in the 10's

I think IU is definitely down the past 20 years but hey, at least you aren't Ohio State basketball.

Yes. 1994. That year was the end of an era for IU basketball.

And since then I would say the Bucks have been better than IU. At least you guys had Thad Matta.

[SunDeck]

My point remains. Men's basketball at IU hasn't been relevant since Damon Bailey's last game. Gone are the days of competing for B1G championships regularly and annual trips to the Sweet Sixteen. I did realize that RMK wasn't going to be here forever but what I didn't know was how hard it was going to be to replace him. I look back at these past 30 years of futility and just wish they would have hired Steve Alford.I don't disagree; the RMK era was an amazing run. And aside from having similar feelings about the Hoosier BB team flailing around ever since, I think it would be cathartic for people to have a new sporting legend to occupy space on their pedestal.

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[dubc47834]

My point remains. Men's basketball at IU hasn't been relevant since Damon Bailey's last game. Gone are the days of competing for B1G championships regularly and annual trips to the Sweet Sixteen. I did realize that RMK wasn't going to be here forever but what I didn't know was how hard it was going to be to replace him. I look back at these past 30 years of futility and just wish they would have hired Steve Alford.

I disagree that they haven't been relevant since Damon Bailey. Like RTG said, they've made a championship game in 2002. But also, Crean had a really good run for a few years. Also, as much as I hate to say it, Sampson had a good run. For whatever reason, we haven't been able to sustain any kind of relevancy. I do think part of it is us fans. We always complain about UK fans, OSU football fans, and others. But if we really took a look at ourselves, we'd see that IU basketball fans can be just as bad. I really hope that the new football fans don't get to be the same way. It's OK to have expectations, but they have to be reasonable! Bob Knight isn't coming back obviously, never was. We barely got him back in the door. Maybe one of these days we can get that kind of consistent winning back! I think Devries is a good candidate.

[SunDeck]

I always feel like the negativity I hear from fans at games sounds like they played highschool ball in the 70s and their judgment of what constitutes sound basketball revolves solely around the way Knight's teams played in that era. Don't get me wrong, his understanding of movement, motion, screening, space and dedication to the extra pass resulted in breathtaking, complex, beautiful play that still influences the game. But he also hated the 3 point shot and had to adapt. The point is, I feel like those fans are stuck in time, even if he wouldn't have been.

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[dubc47834]

I always feel like the negativity I hear from fans at games sounds like they played highschool ball in the 70s and their judgment of what constitutes sound basketball revolves solely around the way Knight's teams played in that era. Don't get me wrong, his understanding of movement, motion, screening, space and dedication to the extra pass resulted in breathtaking, complex, beautiful play that still influences the game. But he also hated the 3 point shot and had to adapt. The point is, I feel like those fans are stuck in time, even if he wouldn't have been.

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This is exactly my point about fans. The game of basketball has evolved, college athletics has evolved. The fans...not as quickly!

[Revering4Blue]

My point remains. Men's basketball at IU hasn't been relevant since Damon Bailey's last game. Gone are the days of competing for B1G championships regularly and annual trips to the Sweet Sixteen. I did realize that RMK wasn't going to be here forever but what I didn't know was how hard it was going to be to replace him. I look back at these past 30 years of futility and just wish they would have hired Steve Alford.

This is so true. While, as others have pointed out, they have reached the National Title game and experienced three sweet sixteen appearances - two times with short-handed, injury-plagued teams - since then, the points that I bolded still stand.

Sustained success has obviously alluded IU basketball for various reasons. Sadly, one of them is due to Coach Knight himself and, as you pointed out, it coincides with Bailey’s last game as a Hoosier. It was then when Knight figuratively “left” IU for his favorite fishing holes and left the recruiting to assistants. But even with the overall talent drop off, there was no excuse to not have some Sweet 16 appearances sprinkled in there before Knight’s eventual ouster.

As I viewed it, there were two sustained periods of an IU BB Coach extracting the least from the most and one of them was Knight’s post 1994 teams. The other, which should, with all due respect to a faction of the fanbase, be obvious was Mike Woodson’s tenure - ALL of it. And doing so with NIL, a underclass Transfer Portal and TJD as an Upperclassman required a special level of incompetence, but Woody managed to do so. That, ironically, is what produces hope for me regarding Coach DDV. I believe he will do a better job of constructing the roster moving forward and won’t pull a Woodson and keep doubling down on uneven roster construction. But I am concerned about available NIL moving forward as some donors, by all accounts, were not necessarily BBall donors but Woodson donors. God knows why.

[Revering4Blue]

As for Alford as coach - and I say that as someone who was basically opposed to this for the longest time - he should have been the choice in ‘21 when it was determined we just HAD to have an IU guy. At the very least, he wouldn’t have implemented obsolete schemes on both sides of the ball. And he actually recruited.

[fearofpopvol1]

I'm optimistic about the future. I just don't think IU's NIL resources have yet caught up with the basketball program. The money is going to be there and if the football team continues to be relevant, that's going to help. I'm not still not yet all in on DDV, but he's certainly an upgrade over Woodson. I wish we had gotten May but I think he was available too soon. That said, it's always going to be hard.

The B10 was hard before it's most recent expansion. It's frustrating because in a lot of ways, this is a down year (MD, Oregon, USC, and even UCLA is underperforming) so it feels like the team should be better than it is. And it has some bright spots but the team is crazy inconsistent.

[dubc47834]

I'm optimistic about the future. I just don't think IU's NIL resources have yet caught up with the basketball program. The money is going to be there and if the football team continues to be relevant, that's going to help. I'm not still not yet all in on DDV, but he's certainly an upgrade over Woodson. I wish we had gotten May but I think he was available too soon. That said, it's always going to be hard.

The B10 was hard before it's most recent expansion. It's frustrating because in a lot of ways, this is a down year (MD, Oregon, USC, and even UCLA is underperforming) so it feels like the team should be better than it is. And it has some bright spots but the team is crazy inconsistent.

Unfortunately this team is going to be inconsistent. I posted not too long ago that .500 is the cieling in the B10 for this team. Fans need to remember, we had ZERO players on our roster at one point in the off season. Coach needs a chance to recruit and bring his own guys in, NIL also.

[Assembly Hall]

I think we are a better team if Enright and Conerway aren’t on the floor together.


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[Strikes Out Looking]

Unfortunately this team is going to be inconsistent. I posted not too long ago that .500 is the cieling in the B10 for this team. Fans need to remember, we had ZERO players on our roster at one point in the off season. Coach needs a chance to recruit and bring his own guys in, NIL also.

I think Devries builds a better team next year with a chance to not have to start from zero. They have no size this year -- a little more size with the 3 point shooters and NIL dollars, they may get back into contention in the big 10 shortly.

[Assembly Hall]

I think Devries builds a better team next year with a chance to not have to start from zero. They have no size this year -- a little more size with the 3 point shooters and NIL dollars, they may get back into contention in the big 10 shortly.

By my count the Hoosiers only return 2 rotational players next year. Sisley and Dorn. So they will have pretty much another new team next year.

[Assembly Hall]

And just like that the needle has moved on the season. Huge win.

[Revering4Blue]

I think we are a better team if Enright and Conerway aren’t on the floor together.


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True that.

No further proof than the last two games with Dorn in the starting lineup, which has been a game-changer. Also encouraging how well the bigs - particularly the much-maligned Bailey - played against Purdue’s bigs. Also encouraging the team has plugged along without significant contributions from Miles, Ristic, Drake and Harris - the latter two have yet to suit up this season.

On to LA.


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[fearofpopvol1]

Even in a down year, beating Purdue will always earn you credibility. I credit Cigs for going to the game.

[Assembly Hall]

Even in a down year, beating Purdue will always earn you credibility. I credit Cigs for going to the game.

Even in a down year? Hell the last good year we had was 2016. The Hoosiers are projected in the tournament at the moment. A NCAAT appearance would be a good year in my book. Getting to the second week-end would be a great season,

[Revering4Blue]

With several players having fouled out, I must admit that I thought the Hoosiers were cooked heading into to the second overtime. But what a win!

And it was obviously a huge plus that the much- maligned - according to various Hoosier message boards - Bailey come through with a huge game.


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[Assembly Hall]

With several players having fouled out, I must admit that I thought the Hoosiers were cooked heading into to the second overtime. But what a win!

And it was obviously a huge plus that the much- maligned - according to various Hoosier message boards - Bailey come through with a huge game.


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I thought they were toast when they choked away a 10 point lead inside of 2 minutes.

I am one that has been critical of Bailey. Glad he has made me change my tune although he did miss a critical FT. But man he was on it against the Bruins.

And how about Dorn? OMG is he ever a breath of fresh air. Gives the Hoosiers 3 bona fide sharp shooters on the floor.

We are off the bubble now and it shaping up to be a good season.

Go Hoosiers!

[fearofpopvol1]

Even in a down year? Hell the last good year we had was 2016. The Hoosiers are projected in the tournament at the moment. A NCAAT appearance would be a good year in my book. Getting to the second week-end would be a great season,

This down year was expected with a new coach and basically zero recruits to start the season.

[Assembly Hall]

This down year was expected with a new coach and basically zero recruits to start the season.

Fair enough. But I don't quite see it that way. After what Cig did with the football team the "old school" way of thinking has went out the window in Bloomington. I did not expect a down year compared to the previous regime or two. My expectations were and are a NCAAT appearance.

[fearofpopvol1]

Fair enough. But I don't quite see it that way. After what Cig did with the football team the "old school" way of thinking has went out the window in Bloomington. I did not expect a down year compared to the previous regime or two. My expectations were and are a NCAAT appearance.

It could end up happening. Obviously a lot rests on the remainder of the season. I hope it happens, but I don't think it's a sure bet. I certainly didn't go into the season expecting it.

However, the expectations next year should be much higher with the class already booked, a year of stability, and the further development of NIL resources.

[fearofpopvol1]

An awful lot of (needed) luck involved in that Wisconsin win. They truly stole one there at the end. Need to beat Oregon tonight and win the games they're supposed to.

[Assembly Hall]

Wilkerson has a shot at eclipsing Steve Alford's school record for made 3-pointers in a season.

1. Steve Alford, 107 (86-87)
2. James Blackmon Jr., 91 (16-17)
3. Yogi Ferrell, 88 (13-14)
4. Lamar Wilkerson, 84

[SunDeck]

Wow, Illinois is good.

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[Assembly Hall]

Wow, Illinois is good.

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And the Hoosiers turn around and play another good team on the road Friday. It might get ugly in Mackey...

[dubc47834]

And the Hoosiers turn around and play another good team on the road Friday. It might get ugly in Mackey...

The Hoosiers are gonna have to shoot lights out the whole game to have a chance. The Boilers are gonna want to get some revenge.

[fearofpopvol1]

IU listed as "Work to do" for the tournament bubble watch on ESPN...


Coming off a run of five wins in six games -- including three over Quadrant 1 and 2 opponents -- Indiana's hot streak cooled with a pair of losses at Illinois and Purdue by a combined 49 points. That shaved about 10% off the Hoosiers' conditional at-large probability, which still sits at 73% but is no longer making them look anywhere near as solid as before. Their portfolio holds up next to other bubble teams -- they rank 41st in the national résumé average, eighth among the Big Ten in what's looking like a 10-bid conference -- and they remain among the top-35 in the predictive metrics. But with fewer than 20 projected wins now, they must at least handle business against Northwestern/Minnesota -- and probably beat one of Michigan State or Ohio State, too -- in order to feel more comfortable.

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/47809690/bubble-watch-mens-ncaa-tournament-march-madness-bracket-predictions-2026

[Assembly Hall]

IU listed as "Work to do" for the tournament bubble watch on ESPN...



https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/47809690/bubble-watch-mens-ncaa-tournament-march-madness-bracket-predictions-2026

The way this team has played the last two games makes me leery about punching a ticket to the dance. Hard for me to see the Hoosiers beating Sparty or the Bucknuts. Heck, Minny and NW have me concerned.

[SunDeck]

I think IU has good guard play, but the last two games really exposed their weakness against bigs who are active on defense and hungry for rebounds. Bailey and Alexis are not up to banging around in the paint for 30+ minutes.

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[Revering4Blue]

IU basketball is hiring Indiana Pacers Senior VP of Player Personnel Ryan Carr as its executive director of basketball.

https://www.insidethehall.com/2026/02/23/iu-basketball-is-hiring-indiana-pacers-senior-vp-of-player-personnel-ryan-carr-as-its-executive-director/

[Assembly Hall]

IU basketball is hiring Indiana Pacers Senior VP of Player Personnel Ryan Carr as its executive director of basketball.

https://www.insidethehall.com/2026/02/23/iu-basketball-is-hiring-indiana-pacers-senior-vp-of-player-personnel-ryan-carr-as-its-executive-director/

Can he get us a big man before our next game?

[fearofpopvol1]

What a collapse. I think they can still get in, but the road got harder and they have to beat Minnesota and Ohio State or Michigan State.

[dubc47834]

What a collapse. I think they can still get in, but the road got harder and they have to beat Minnesota and Ohio State or Michigan State.

I also don't want to hear anyone blaming the refs for the lose. We should have never been in that situation in the first place. The ref missed a call, it happens!

[Assembly Hall]

I also don't want to hear anyone blaming the refs for the lose. We should have never been in that situation in the first place. The ref missed a call, it happens!

I blame Nick Martinelli...

[dubc47834]

Huge game for the boys today...let's go Hoosiers!

[fearofpopvol1]

After a run of five wins in six games, Indiana has now lost four straight -- to Illinois, Purdue, Northwestern and, on Sunday, Michigan State -- plunging its conditional at-large probability down to 45%. The Hoosiers' portfolio is losing ground relative to other bubble teams -- Indiana now ranks outside the top 50 in the national résumé average, still 10th in the conference -- even though the team remains among the top 40 in the predictive metrics. On a day when bubble rival Ohio State defeated Purdue, IU's loss puts its tournament future in real flux.

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/47809690/bubble-watch-mens-ncaa-tournament-march-madness-bracket-predictions-2026#BigTen

They now have to win against Minnesota and Ohio State (and that only gets them to .500 in conference play). I think they can, but will they is another question. Otherwise, barring a crazy run in the B10 tourney (which IU never does), they're out.

[fearofpopvol1]

Lunardi does have IU as one of the last 4 in currently. Not exactly where you'd want to be, especially without knowing how the Miami situation plays out if they were to lose a game or the conference championship. Minnesota came now becomes crucial.

[Assembly Hall]

Must win. Hoosiers looking good early on.

[Sea Ray]

Must win. Hoosiers looking good early on.

Easy win :thumbup:

[fearofpopvol1]

Honestly, they don't deserve to be in unless they go on a tear in the tourney.

[dubc47834]

Honestly, they don't deserve to be in unless they go on a tear in the tourney.

100%...the boys need at least 3 wins in the tourney next week.

[Sea Ray]

Lunardi is still saying IU is the first team out right now. Says they’re helped by so many bubble teams losing


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[fearofpopvol1]

Six losses in the last seven games (all by double digits) and no wins outside of Bloomington since January.

At least we got football.

[dubc47834]

Lunardi is still saying IU is the first team out right now. Says they’re helped by so many bubble teams losing


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While it would be nice if we got in the dance, that's all it would be. Just getting in. This team would have no real shot at getting out of the 1st weekend, hell, the 1st Four games in Dayton would be a stretch. I'm still a Devries supporter, he just needs to continue to build the team and as he said last night, build depth. I believe they have a solid recruiting class coming in next year, and hopefully get some good players in the portal as well.

[Strikes Out Looking]

2026-27 will tell if Devries is the answer, this year was just kind of a meh year and was always going to be.

[Revering4Blue]

Mike Wiemuth (X’s & Joes Pod)
@MikeWiemuth

The 3 slowest teams to fill their full recruiting staffs under Year 1 coaches all missed the NCAA Tournament.

Maryland: Apr 28
IU: Apr 30
W. Virginia: May 12

Tourney teams Miami, UVA, Iowa, Nova, Texas, NCSt were staffed up between April 2nd - 15th.


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[Assembly Hall]

2026-27 will tell if Devries is the answer, this year was just kind of a meh year and was always going to be.

Next year will definitely be the year for me. As far as this year? I expected just a little bit more out of this crew. The Minny loss early on and the NW loss at home proved to be costly.