Black Monday

[Chip R]

Atlanta got a jump on the sackings by firing head coach Raheem Morris and GM Terry Fontenot.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/47507975/source-falcons-move-raheem-morris-coach

[Sea Ray]

The #Browns are firing coach Kevin Stefanski, a two-time coach of the year, after two tough seasons in a row.

While Cleveland starts over with a new voice, Stefanski should be a top candidate in several places.

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[GAC]

I can't believe that the Brown owner is keeping Berry as GM?? He created the mess, and also gave Watson all that guaranteed monies and a 80.7M salary cap hit in '26 (largest in the NFL).

[RedTeamGo!]

I can't believe that the Brown owner is keeping Berry as GM?? He created the mess, and also gave Watson all that guaranteed monies and a 80.7M salary cap hit in '26 (largest in the NFL).

I am not sold on Berry, at all, however that Watson debacle is squarely on ownership. Haslem pushed for that to happen. Sounds like Berry didn't think it was a good idea. With that said, I think this last draft class saved Berry's job. They pretty much hit on every single pick.

[GAC]

I am not sold on Berry, at all, however that Watson debacle is squarely on ownership. Haslem pushed for that to happen. Sounds like Berry didn't think it was a good idea. With that said, I think this last draft class saved Berry's job. They pretty much hit on every single pick.

That may be true. But Berry publicly stated he was "on board" with the trade and it was a "team effort". Of course that could simply be him doing PR. I don't understand why owners hire people for jobs, such as GM, and then don't leave then alone and allow them to do their job?

I laugh at owners like Haslam and Jerry Jones lol

I don't think Sanders is their franchise QB, but we'll see.

[RedTeamGo!]

That may be true. But Berry publicly stated he was "on board" with the trade and it was a "team effort". Of course that could simply be him doing PR. I don't understand why owners hire people for jobs, such as GM, and then don't leave then alone and allow them to do their job?

I laugh at owners like Haslam and Jerry Jones lol

I don't think Sanders is their franchise QB, but we'll see.

I mean, what was he going to say? "This one is soley on the guy that signs my checks, I had nothing to do with it" ha

[UKFlounder]

Raiders fire Pete Carroll

[UKFlounder]

Cardinals fire Jonathan Gannon

[RichRed]

Atlanta got a jump on the sackings by firing head coach Raheem Morris and GM Terry Fontenot.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/47507975/source-falcons-move-raheem-morris-coach

There’s a decent chance Dan Quinn tries to get the band back together and asks his buddy Raheem to be the DC in DC.

[WVRed]

I am not sold on Berry, at all, however that Watson debacle is squarely on ownership. Haslem pushed for that to happen. Sounds like Berry didn't think it was a good idea. With that said, I think this last draft class saved Berry's job. They pretty much hit on every single pick.

From the outside looking in, canning Stefanski is a mistake. Its basically making him the fall guy when Cleveland has other problems of dysfunction (ownership and GM).

The Bengals did the same thing with Lou Anarumo and now hes getting head coaching interviews.

The Browns arent too far off though. With as low as they are picking they are out of range for a QB. They would be lucky to get Carnell Tate which would fill a huge need.

Draft O Line and receiver, see if Shedur is the answer and go from there next year. And whatever you do dont hire Deion.

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[Ky Fried Redleg]

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I would trade Zac for Stefanski in a heartbeat. Hell, I would trade Zac for a pack of Juicy Fruit.

[GAC]

With as low as they are picking they are out of range for a QB. They would be lucky to get Carnell Tate which would fill a huge need.

Draft O Line and receiver, see if Shedur is the answer and go from there next year. And whatever you do dont hire Deion.

The Browns have two 1st round picks this April. They have their pick, which is #6, and the Jaguars, acquired from the Jacksonville Jaguars in a 2025 draft-day trade.

I don't think Sanders is their franchise QB of the future.

[WVRed]

The Browns have two 1st round picks this April. They have their pick, which is #6, and the Jaguars, acquired from the Jacksonville Jaguars in a 2025 draft-day trade.

I don't think Sanders is their franchise QB of the future.I dont either but at 6 they will probably miss out on both Mendoza and Dante Moore.

Give Shedur a year, draft an O Line and WR with the two picks they have and then draft a QB next year if Sanders ends up not being the answer. Or sign Daniel Jones or Malik Willis in FA.

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[UKFlounder]

Ravens fire John Harbaugh.

[WVRed]

Ravens fire John Harbaugh.Supposedly it hinged on him not wanting to move on from Todd Monken.

I can legitimately see Brian Flores in play here. And that would be scary, at least defensively.

According to Schefter Jesse Minter and Anthony Weaver are the top two. They want to follow Mike MacDonald.

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[RichRed]

On what turned out to be Black Tuesday, Washington fired OC Kliff Kingsbury and DC Joe Whitt. Whitt was a no-brainer because the defense was hot trash, but Kliff was a bit of a surprise. He managed to lead the offense to around a middle of the pack performance by most metrics, mostly with Marcus Mariota and Josh Johnson at QB, and basically one NFL caliber WR in Terry McLaurin, who only played 10 games. Players, including Jayden Daniels, have expressed disappointment in the decision to part ways with KK.

Dan Quinn better get these hires right. Otherwise the next coach they fire will be him.

[UKFlounder]

Did Quinn fire both, or did the front office/ownership get involved? I saw one report that claimed the latter.

[WVRed]

On what turned out to be Black Tuesday, Washington fired OC Kliff Kingsbury and DC Joe Whitt. Whitt was a no-brainer because the defense was hot trash, but Kliff was a bit of a surprise. He managed to lead the offense to around a middle of the pack performance by most metrics, mostly with Marcus Mariota and Josh Johnson at QB, and basically one NFL caliber WR in Terry McLaurin, who only played 10 games. Players, including Jayden Daniels, have expressed disappointment in the decision to part ways with KK.

Dan Quinn better get these hires right. Otherwise the next coach they fire will be him.Kingsbury wasn't really a firing as much as it was he was let out to pursue other coaching opportunities, namely head coach. Ravens have been floated as a possibility.

That said Quinn wants to go back to running the ball which Washington didn't do very well with running backs. Todd Monken is available and would be a good fit there.

I kinda wonder if the Commanders would take Jeremiyah Love. As a Bengals fan I hope so, one less team to take Downs.

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[RichRed]

Did Quinn fire both, or did the front office/ownership get involved? I saw one report that claimed the latter.

Who knows the real truth but GM Adam Peters said it’s DQ’s call on his coaching staff and he’s there to lend support.

[RichRed]

Kingsbury wasn't really a firing as much as it was he was let out to pursue other coaching opportunities, namely head coach. Ravens have been floated as a possibility.

That said Quinn wants to go back to running the ball which Washington didn't do very well with running backs. Todd Monken is available and would be a good fit there.

I kinda wonder if the Commanders would take Jeremiyah Love. As a Bengals fan I hope so, one less team to take Downs.

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They’re calling it a “mutual parting” but it was a firing. He’s still under contract for another year so if they wanted to, they could’ve kept him if he didn’t get a HC job somewhere else.

[plantmanky]

Did Quinn fire both, or did the front office/ownership get involved? I saw one report that claimed the latter.


I took it as the latter, which means Quinn is next.

[Sea Ray]

I don't know what it is with the Browns...why do they always covet our guys?


The Browns have requested to interview Bengals OC Dan Pitcher for their head-coaching vacancy, per source.


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[WVRed]

Re: Kingsbury

Has there ever been a coach who has failed up more than Kliff Kingsbury?

Got fired at Texas Tech while having Baker Mayfield and Patrick Mahomes. Gets hired by the Cardinals, has Kyler Murray and gets fired again. Now hes being floated for the Ravens which is a step up from the Cardinals.

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[KronoRed]

Must be a great interview because he's not a great head coach, he just wants to call plays.

[UKFlounder]

Dolphins reportedly fire Mike McDaniel

[Chip R]

Dolphins reportedly fire Mike McDaniel

And there was much rejoicing. Could be the front runner for Harbaugh now that they let McDaniel go. Dolphins owner Stephen Ross was going after Jim Harbaugh a few years ago but he would up staying at Michigan. I don't think he'd fire McDaniel if he wasn't pretty sure about getting a first class replacement. Then again, this is the Dolphins who could screw up a 2 car funeral procession.

[WVRed]

And there was much rejoicing. Could be the front runner for Harbaugh now that they let McDaniel go. Dolphins owner Stephen Ross was going after Jim Harbaugh a few years ago but he would up staying at Michigan. I don't think he'd fire McDaniel if he wasn't pretty sure about getting a first class replacement. Then again, this is the Dolphins who could screw up a 2 car funeral procession.Beat me to it.

That said, the Giants (if they want him) would be the better pick IMO.

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[Chip R]

Beat me to it.

That said, the Giants (if they want him) would be the better pick IMO.

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I don't know. The Giants are pretty messed up too. An attractive thing about being in Florida is there's no state income tax.

[Boston Red]

I don't know. The Giants are pretty messed up too. An attractive thing about being in Florida is there's no state income tax.

Miami would be a great place to live if you're really rich and hate cold weather.

[WVRed]

Rumors that Matt LaFleur could be getting the axe after the choke job in Chicago last night.

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[UKFlounder]

Mike Tomlin out in Pittsburgh.

Zac Taylor is the only AFC North coach to survive the 2025 season, LOL

[WVRed]

Harbaugh to Giants

Stefanski to Falcons

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[JaxRed]

Grant Udinski, the 30 year old Jags OC, did 3 hour Zoom interview with Browns yesterday for HC. Browns were reportedly "blown away" according to one source and want to bring him in Monday for in-person interview Monday. He's only been OC with Jags 1 year and didn't call plays. I was hoping we could hang on to him 1 more year.

He's going to be a WonderKid (Ted Lasso). If offered the job, I assume he'd take it, but there are a lot of red flags with that job. His mentor (this year) Liam Coen walked away from Jags job because the situation wasn't right. (And force Khan's hand into fixing it).

[goreds2]

Mike Tomlin out in Pittsburgh.

Zac Taylor is the only AFC North coach to survive the 2035 season, LOL

He will still be there. :)

[UKFlounder]

Bills fire McDermott

[WVRed]

Bills fire McDermottCalled it in the other thread.

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[plantmanky]

Bills fired the wrong guy.

[WVRed]

Bills fired the wrong guy.Probably, but they are pretty much stuck with Allen and someone had to be the scapegoat.

I can see him landing in Baltimore.

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[Sea Ray]

Bills fired the wrong guy.

Fair enough. Who should they have fired?

[Revering4Blue]

Fair enough. Who should they have fired?

IMHO, The GM. He didn’t provide enough defensive and WR help. The needs were obvious at the trading deadline at the latest.


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[WVRed]

IMHO, The GM. He didn’t provide enough defensive and WR help. The needs were obvious at the trading deadline at the latest.


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkAnd he got promoted to President.

Josh Allen has about the same influence in Buffalo that Burrow does with the Bengals. Difference is Burrow and Zac get along. Im betting Buffalo hires Brian Daboll or Davis Webb.

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[plantmanky]

Fair enough. Who should they have fired?

Allen.

[Sea Ray]

Allen.

Allen’s all they got. Without him they’re drafting in the top ten every year


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[WVRed]

Gonna make a prediction:

I look for at least two teams to hire a young (and I mean YOUNG) head coach with an offensive background and pair them with an experienced defensive coordinator.

Think of it as the Sean McVay effect. Doesn't necessarily have to be someone from the Rams coaching tree (although Nate Scheelhaase is a candidate) but the Browns, Bills, and possibly the Steelers are teams to watch here.

Scheelhaase, Grant Udzinski and Davis Webb are names to watch.

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[Sea Ray]

ESPN sources: Titans are working to finalize a deal to hire 49ers defensive coordinator Robert Saleh as their head coach. Saleh spent Monday in Tennessee with the Titans, and the two sides impressed each other enough to move forward together.

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[Sea Ray]

The Dolphins are closing in on a deal to hire Jeff Hafley as their head coach, sources tell The Insiders.

Hafley, 46, impressed as the Packers’ defensive coordinator the past two seasons after a stint as Boston College HC. Now he reunites with GM Jon-Eric Sullivan in Miami.

https://x.com/TomPelissero/status/2013371350107271658?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5 Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E2013371350107271658%7Ctwgr% 5E701b60d0f92005ca5f5c384ec81faa17ccf81c93%7Ctwcon %5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fforum.go-bengals.com%2Findex.php%3Fapp%3Dcoremodule%3Dsyste mcontroller%3Dembedurl%3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Fx.com%2Fi%2 Fstatus%2F2013371350107271658

[RedTeamGo!]

what a terrible hire

[WVRed]

what a terrible hireWhich one?



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[RedTeamGo!]

Which one?



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Hafley

[WVRed]

Mike McDaniel turns down the Browns head coaching job to work for Jim Harbaugh in LA.

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[RedTeamGo!]

Smart, if you’re a young coach you would be an idiot to take the Browns job. I suppose it didn’t hurt Stefanski too much, though. But either way, the Browns are an absolute dumpster fire.

[WVRed]

Smart, if you’re a young coach you would be an idiot to take the Browns job. I suppose it didn’t hurt Stefanski too much, though. But either way, the Browns are an absolute dumpster fire.Unless you are a young young coach such as the ones I listed earlier.

Get a young offensive mind no one has heard of and pair him with Jim Schwartz. It would be Sean McVay and Gregg Williams if it works.

Key word being "If"

Also never thought McDaniel was a serious candidate. How many games has he won in cold weather? That should be a disqualification right there.

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[WVRed]

Speaking of Stefanski, some of the Falcons fans ive seen aren't happy with the hire.

You cant base everything hes done on the last two years. Hes won Coach of the Year twice with a laughingstock organization and beat the Steelers in a playoff game in the basement of his home during Covid.

I hope the Falcons and Bucs get a prime time game especially with the comments made by Baker Mayfield today.

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[WVRed]

Jesse Minter to the Ravens.

Probably one of the more predictable hires and continues the trend of defense in the carousel.

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[UKFlounder]

CBS sports posted this on Facebook. I double checked to be sure this wasn't’ April 1

Philip Rivers is interviewing for the Bills head coaching position, according to our Jonathan Jones.

[WVRed]

The forward thinking Pittsburgh Steelers have hired Mike McCarthy as head coach.

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[WVRed]

Grant Udzinski has removed himself from the dumpster fire that is the Browns head coaching search.

Might as well just hire Deion.

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[RedTeamGo!]

Might as well just hire Deion.

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You want this to happen so bad, lol

It is probably going to be Scheelhaase or however you spell his name

[WVRed]

You want this to happen so bad, lol

It is probably going to be Scheelhaase or however you spell his namePretty bad that offensive coordinator jobs (Chargers and Jags) are better than Cleveland at this point.

I think Steeler fans are wanting Scheelhaase as offensive coordinator there and to learn under McCarthy before he retires.

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[RedTeamGo!]

Pretty bad that offensive coordinator jobs (Chargers and Jags) are better than Cleveland at this point.

I think Steeler fans are wanting Scheelhaase as offensive coordinator there and to learn under McCarthy before he retires.

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Oh the Browns are a complete joke, but stop trying to make Prime happen, it isn't going to happen

[KoryMac5]

CBS sports posted this on Facebook. I double checked to be sure this wasn't’ April 1

Philip Rivers is interviewing for the Bills head coaching position, according to our Jonathan Jones.

withdrew from consideration today...

[WVRed]

Oh the Browns are a complete joke, but stop trying to make Prime happen, it isn't going to happenOK, how about just give it to Jim Schwartz?

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[KoryMac5]

Nate Scheelhaase seems to be the hot name…had interviews with Browns and Bills. Passing coordinator for Rams.

[KronoRed]

Oh the Browns are a complete joke, but stop trying to make Prime happen, it isn't going to happen

Probably, but you have to admit if a team was going to be that dumb, it would be the Browns.

or the Jets.

[WVRed]

Bills promote Joe Brady.

Might as well just say McDermott was the scapegoat. Everything from the press conference, promoting the GM who assembled the team that failed and now promoting the offensive coordinator who called the plays.

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[plantmanky]

Bills = Browns.

[WrongVerb]

Browns hire former Ravens offensive coordinator Todd Monken as head coach: Source (https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/7001807/2026/01/28/browns-todd-monken-head-coach-ravens/?campaign=16661470&source=athletic_breaking_targeted_email&userId=346302)

[Sea Ray]

Does this leaver the Raiders as the only job left?

[RedTeamGo!]

Browns hire former Ravens offensive coordinator Todd Monken as head coach: Source (https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/7001807/2026/01/28/browns-todd-monken-head-coach-ravens/?campaign=16661470&source=athletic_breaking_targeted_email&userId=346302)

This actually isn't that bad - I was expecting Jim Shwartz

[WVRed]

Browns hire former Ravens offensive coordinator Todd Monken as head coach: Source (https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/7001807/2026/01/28/browns-todd-monken-head-coach-ravens/?campaign=16661470&source=athletic_breaking_targeted_email&userId=346302)Browns gonna Brown.

Im guessing Scheelhaase told them to kick rocks.

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[WVRed]

Does this leaver the Raiders as the only job left?Cardinals

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[WVRed]

This actually isn't that bad - I was expecting Jim ShwartzI dont think its bad.

He coached Lamar Jackson to a MVP. If he can do half of that with Shedur and Judkins and they keep Schwartz they should be solid.

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[Boss-Hog]

I dont think its bad.

He coached Lamar Jackson to a MVP. If he can do half of that with Shedur and Judkins and they keep Schwartz they should be solid.

Sent from my SM-S936U using TapatalkI think you're you're seeing Shedeur as the long-term answer at QB more than any NFL team, including the Browns, does.

[WVRed]

I think you're you're seeing Shedeur as the long-term answer at QB more than any NFL team, including the Browns, does.Not really. Its probably more of give him one full year just to see what they have. Monken can probably get the most out of him this year and if he doesn't perform then hope they are in position for Dante Moore or Arch Manning next year.

There's really no option this year at QB in the draft that will be there when they pick. Maybe Malik Willis in FA.

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[GAC]

I dont think its bad.

He coached Lamar Jackson to a MVP. If he can do half of that with Shedur and Judkins and they keep Schwartz they should be solid

It's the Browns! :laugh:

This organization is making the Bengals of the 1990s look like world beaters IMO.

[Boss-Hog]

Not really. Its probably more of give him one full year just to see what they have. Monken can probably get the most out of him this year and if he doesn't perform then hope they are in position for Dante Moore or Arch Manning next year.

There's really no option this year at QB in the draft that will be there when they pick. Maybe Malik Willis in FA.

Sent from my SM-S936U using TapatalkYeah, I was wondering if they don't go the stopgap free agent route, such as Willis, unless they see a QB they see a somewhat under the radar QB they like enough in the draft to take early, as they do have two first rounders to work with either as picks or to maneuver the draft. Either way, I'd be pretty surprised if they go in to 2026 with Shedeur and Dillon Gabriel as the top two QBs on their roster. It isn't as if they have much draft capital invested in Shedeur or that he even played well with the audition he got last year.

[RedTeamGo!]

If the Browns were smart they would trade their two first round picks and a 3rd (2nd if they have to) for Fernando Mendoza

They are not smart.

[Boss-Hog]

If the Browns were smart they would trade their two first round picks and a 3rd (2nd if they have to) for Fernando Mendoza

They are not smart.I don't think either of those two offers would get it done. The Raiders (and other teams) are just as QB needy as the Browns.

[WVRed]

If the Browns were smart they would trade their two first round picks and a 3rd (2nd if they have to) for Fernando Mendoza

They are not smart.Or they keep the picks, take Carnell Tate and whatever offensive lineman is there at the Jaguars pick and then take a QB next year.

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[WVRed]

Klint Kubiak to the Raiders

Mike LaFleur to the Cardinals

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