4-19 vs Cubs(Freel starting at 2B, Pena in RF)

[KronoRed]

I'm here.
Hey LF :)

[CincyRedsFan30]

Dunn up:

Pitch 1: Strike looking
Pitch 2: Ball
Pitch 3: Strike looking
Pitch 4: Strikeout looking. 2 outs.

[flyer85]

that pitch was about 6 inches low

[d2pmr11]

GameCenter said Dunn struck out looking and the ball was in the dirt.

[RFS62]

hey lf

[OnBaseMachine]

Seems like the umps call anything within 6-8 inches off the plate a strike on Dunn.

[CincyRedsFan30]

Pena up:

Pitch 1: Strike looking
Pitch 2: Ball
Pitch 3: Ball
Pitch 4: Strike looking
Pitch 5: Ball
Pitch 6: Pena doubles.

[Matt700wlw]

Another bullet by WMP

[wheels]

Look the Cubs may have 4 runs, but they haven't hit the ball half as hard as the Reds. A few plays pulled out of their rear ends like the Cubs have had, and if the ump makes the correct call the Reds are down 3 - 0. I am actually not disappointed in Claussen tonight. His velocity isn't great, but he is fooling hitters. I think some Reds fans would criticize Brandon regardless of what he's doing out there, just so they can hear themeselves talk.

And for a few of them it's because they traded Boone to get him.

He'd have to be Sandy Koufax to get kudos.

[Walkerforpres]

hee. Pena looks at 1 pitch the 1st AB, then goes to a full count and then doubles this time. Love it.

[d2pmr11]

Clutch Aurilia up with 2 out.

[Larry Schuler]

GREAT AT BAT BY PENA. Good discipline.

[KronoRed]

Thanks Nomar :D

[Reds/Flyers Fan]

Thanks Nomah...he is so overrated

[flynn78]

OSU, I get what you are saying. I just thought that Claussen was a world beater when we got him and now I don't know if he'll stick with the club. Just frustration rearing its ugly head.

[Larry Schuler]

Aurillia comes through again! :bowrofl:

[CincyRedsFan30]

Aurilia up:

Pitch 1: Groundball... thrown away at 1B... Pena scores... Aurilia goes to 2B as the ball went into the Reds' dugout.

[Matt700wlw]

And for a few of them it's because they traded Boone to get him.

He'd have to be Sandy Koufax to get kudos.


Not really. But he's shown me virtually nothing since we've gotten him

[Walkerforpres]

The .400-batting Valentin is up. :)
There's something you won't hear every day. Or ever again.

[Puffy]

Aurillia comes through again! :bowrofl:

Ummmmm, reaching on an E counts as coming through?

[Reds/Flyers Fan]

That was a weak effort by Valentin but at least we're on the board.

[flynn78]

Thanks Nomah...he is so overrated
No you are. Zasu
SNL skit

[CincyRedsFan30]

Valentin up:

Pitch 1: Foul
Pitch 2: Strike swinging
Pitch 3: Foul
Pitch 4: Strikeout swinging. 4-1 Cubs after 4.

[Larry Schuler]

Ummmmm, reaching on an E counts as coming through?

Aurillia's contributions are limited to shattered bat singles and defensive errors.

[Tony Cloninger]

When Casey struggles he pulls everything........he knows this yet does not adjust and go the other way ..which is his best way to hit.

Does he not realize he is doing this or something? It seems liek it would
be pretty easy to realize he is doing that.

[Reds/Flyers Fan]

Aurillia's contributions are limited to shattered bat singles and defensive errors.

Which puts his production ahead of some others on this team

[SteelSD]

I'm not concerned at all. We could be paying Aaron Boone $8 million per year to swing for the moon and boot ground balls.

A MLB team cannot survive trading commodities like Aaron Boone (whose market vale was VERY high at the time) for softer tossing versions of Ron Villone.

I've long been a Claussen supporter, contingent on his velocity returning. It hasn't. And there's a reason to be worried about that because Claussen's BB rate has taken a hit post-surgery. You can survive with a projectible 4.00/9 IP BB rate, but not if you're as hittable as Claussen is without his fastball.

[CincyRedsFan30]

Top of the 5th...

Patterson up:

Pitch 1: Ball
Pitch 2: Ball
Pitch 3: Ball
Pitch 4: Strike looking
Pitch 5: Groundout to 1B. 1 out.

[Puffy]

Aurillia's contributions are limited to shattered bat singles and defensive errors.

Oh, Ok! I was thrown off by the bowing guy and thought you were serious. My bad!

:thumbup:

[CincyRedsFan30]

Nomar up:

Pitch 1: Strike swinging
Pitch 2: Ball
Pitch 3: Foul
Pitch 4: Ball
Pitch 5: Nomar K's swinging. 2 outs.

[Matt700wlw]

That was a nice inning!

[Reds/Flyers Fan]

Claussen seems to be settling. But this could have been a lot worse if Claussen would have eliminated the obvious mistakes...giving up a 2-strike hit to the pitcher, hitting a batter, failing to back up the throw to third. Even with his early pitching struggles this could easily have been a 2-1 game now.

[CincyRedsFan30]

Ramirez up:

Pitch 1: Strike swinging
Pitch 2: Foul
Pitch 3: Ramirez K's on a foul tip. Inning over. 4-1 Cubs, Mid. 5th.

[Walkerforpres]

One more inning of this by Claussen (assuming they let him hit in this coming inning) and I'll venture to say that this was a successful outing, considering he hasn't pitched in 3 weeks. He's sure making a nice comeback here.

[flyer85]

Claussen looked good after he started all of his pitches

[PuffyPig]

Claussen is one broken bat single (on a good pitch) from being in a 1-1 game right now.

[wheels]

I'd much rather take my chances with Claussen than Josh Hancock.

Sorry.

[flyer85]

might we see Coffey

[Matt700wlw]

Claussen's night is over.....Weathers was warming up

[Walkerforpres]

Crud. Why is Miley PH'ing? Boo.

[CincyRedsFan30]

Claussen out of the game... Cruz PH.

Pitch 1: Strike looking
Pitch 2: Strike swinging
Pitch 3: Ball
Pitch 4: Flyout to CF. 1 out.

[Reds/Flyers Fan]

Does Jacob Cruz ever get a hit?

[OSURedLeg]

Yeah the only real problem I had with Claussen tonight was not backing up during that broken bat single. However, mental mistakes will happen when you've been sitting the bench for three weeks. I'm pretty happy about his performance, and I think it's encouraging that he got stronger as he went.

[wheels]

might we see Coffey

Our boys will either have to score some runs first, or fall hopelessly behind.

But...We shall see.

With Weathers coming in next, the latter is very possible.

[Aronchis]

Just think if he had the 94mph fastball? Would coverup the "growth" process he is going through with developing his pitches. He has the stuff to be a good lefty.

[Reds/Flyers Fan]

Claussen and Belisle are laughing it up on the bench. Am I missing something?

[flynn78]

I like Hancock and Hudson better than Claussen myself.

[CincyRedsFan30]

Freel up:

Pitch 1: Ball
Pitch 2: Ball
Pitch 3: Strike looking
Pitch 4: Ball
Pitch 5: Walk

[KronoRed]

Claussen and Belisle are laughing it up on the bench. Am I missing something?
Good to be in the Majors

[rdiersin]

I'd much rather take my chances with Claussen than Josh Hancock.

Sorry.


I agree. Lefty's with high 80 velocity are much better than righties with high 80's velocity.

[d2pmr11]

A MLB team cannot survive trading commodities like Aaron Boone (whose market vale was VERY high at the time) for softer tossing versions of Ron Villone.

I've long been a Claussen supporter, contingent on his velocity returning. It hasn't. And there's a reason to be worried about that because Claussen's BB rate has taken a hit post-surgery. You can survive with a projectible 4.00/9 IP BB rate, but not if you're as hittable as Claussen is without his fastball.

At least there's the chance that Claussen can be a serviceable major league pitcher. Aaron Boone was the most overrated player in baseball when the Reds traded him. Bowden signed him to a lot of money, and Aaron got good press because he's a nice guy to the reporters and teammates (which not coincidentally is how Bob Boone finagled his way into the dugout). Take another look at those "Team MVP" numbers he put up in 2002. Hal McCoy claimed he was a future gold-glove winner . . and he had a .954 fielding percentage at 3rd base!

Sorry. I don't mean to take this out on you because you don't even seem to be taking the other side. But I really think Claussen has some unreasonable expectations because people think he was the certerpiece of the Great Salary Dump. All in all, I think he's pulled it together nicely tonight after a rough start.

[Matt700wlw]

Claussen and Belisle are laughing it up on the bench. Am I missing something?


Probably, or you may be laughing with them

[Reds/Flyers Fan]

I wonder if Jimenez is noticing how Freel actually gets on base one way or the other

[Puffy]

Come on Junior - I played you in my fantasy league.....

[CincyRedsFan30]

Griffey up:

Pitch 1: Foul
(Throw to 1B)
Pitch 2: Ball
Pitch 3: Foul
(Throw to 1B)
Pitch 4: Ball
Pitch 5: Foul
Pitch 6: Strikeout swinging. 2 outs.

[flynn78]

I will not be stubborn and not admit Claussen had a pretty good comeback. He did. I just like Hudson and Hancock better when they are healthy.

[Walkerforpres]

Any reason why Freel might not try to steal here? Or during Griffey's AB?

[CincyRedsFan30]

Casey up:

Pitch 1: Strike looking
Pitch 2: Ball
Pitch 3: Foul
Pitch 4: Strikeout looking. 4-1 Cubs after 5.

[wheels]

A MLB team cannot survive trading commodities like Aaron Boone (whose market vale was VERY high at the time) for softer tossing versions of Ron Villone.

I've long been a Claussen supporter, contingent on his velocity returning. It hasn't. And there's a reason to be worried about that because Claussen's BB rate has taken a hit post-surgery. You can survive with a projectible 4.00/9 IP BB rate, but not if you're as hittable as Claussen is without his fastball.

I think the Ron Villone comparison might be a tad bit unfair, but I agree with the premise that his drop in velocity could present problems in future outings.

With this particular outing, though, I was impressed with his breaking pitches, and the fact that despite being challenged velocity wise, he was still missing bats.

How is that possible?

Is it because Cub hitters tend to jump out of their shoes? Probably.

But is it also possible that this kid might have some nifty breaking stuff that he can use?

What do you think caused Brandon to lose his velocity? I'm not sure TJ is the whole answer because there are numerous stories of pitchers gaining some pop post surgery.

What's your take?

[Matt700wlw]

Todd Coffey in!!!

[GoReds]

Claussen was pretty pumped before this start - perhaps he's overthrowing his fastball?

[PuffyPig]

Hal McCoy claimed he was a future gold-glove winner . . and he had a .954 fielding percentage at 3rd base!



Fielding percentage is usually an extremely poor barometer of fielding prowess.

[Puffy]

Sean Casey is OPSing .563 right now.

[Caveat Emperor]

I just wanna say, I'm pulling for Coffey here...I'd like to see him knock the door down and push one of the morons in the bullpen out of the way.

[OldCat]

Fielding percentage is usually an extremely poor barometer of fielding prowess.

On the other hand, if its below .500, you officially aren't very good.

[CincyRedsFan30]

Coffey is in!... Top of the 6th...

Lee up:

Pitch 1: Foul
Pitch 2: Strike looking
Pitch 3: Ball
Pitch 4: Ball
Pitch 5: Ball
Pitch 6: Single

[d2pmr11]

Fielding percentage is usually an extremely poor barometer of fielding prowess.

Okay, perhaps I should have said "my perception" says Aaron was a crappy fielder. Which he was. And the numbers back it up.

[Caveat Emperor]

How is Coffey's velocity? I'm stuck on MLB Gamecast here in class, and don't have a radar gun to watch.

[Reds/Flyers Fan]

A run here would really hurt the cause.

[d2pmr11]

How is Coffey's velocity? I'm stuck on MLB Gamecast here in class, and don't have a radar gun to watch.

GameCenter is saying 92.

[CincyRedsFan30]

Dubois up:

Pitch 1: Foul
Pitch 2: Ball
(Throw to 1B)
Pitch 3: Ball... runner steals 2B...
Pitch 4: Ball
Pitch 5: groundball... runner at 3B with 1 out.

[SteelSD]

I think the Ron Villone comparison might be a tad bit unfair, but I agree with the premise that his drop in velocity could present problems in future outings.

With this particular outing, though, I was impressed with his breaking pitches, and the fact that despite being challenged velocity wise, he was still missing bats.

How is that possible?

Is it because Cub hitters tend to jump out of their shoes? Probably.

But is it also possible that this kid might have some nifty breaking stuff that he can use?

What do you think caused Brandon to lose his velocity? I'm not sure TJ is the whole answer because there are numerous stories of pitchers gaining some pop post surgery.

What's your take?


Wish I could tell you the cause, Wheels.

And yes, the Cubs hyperactive nature makes them a questionable litmus test.

My primary point is that the Reds need to start actually winning some deals and bringing power arms into the organization when they do it. Claussen was pimped as being that type of pitcher when he was acquired, but he's not right now.

I'm not ready to dump the guy, but I'm a lot more concerned right now than I hoped I'd be.

[CincyRedsFan30]

Perez up:

Pitch 1: Ball
Pitch 2: Ground ball... nice play by Casey... runner scores though... 5-1 Cubs...2 outs.

That hurt a lot.

[Reds/Flyers Fan]

Imagine that...a manufactured run. Leadoff hit, steal second, sacrificed to third, sacrificed home.

[Matt700wlw]

4 run game again......check that....5 run game


Welcome to the big leagues, kid

[Reds/Flyers Fan]

6-1 on a LONG HR

[CincyRedsFan30]

Barrett:

Pitch 1: HR...6-1 Cubs.

Cofffey looks awful in his debut here.

[d2pmr11]

Were the Reds' infielders playing in at least on that play?

[d2pmr11]

Oh jeez. Welcome to the big leagues Mr. Coffey.

[sjm]

Someone must want to go right back to the Minors.

[Reds/Flyers Fan]

Coffee is going to school here. This game is likely finished.

[flynn78]

Insert bad Coffey joke here. Any will do.

[CrackerJack]

Coffey got creamed

[CincyRedsFan30]

Prior:

Pitch 1: Ball
Pitch 2:Strike swinging
Pitch 3: Ball
Pitch 4: Flyout. 6-1 Cubs, Mid. 6th.

Cards are mutilating the Pirates, BTW. I hope we do as well against the Buccos as they have done.

[Falls City Beer]

Adios, Todd. Fernandez?

[KronoRed]

One game is a little early to say he's toast

[Reds/Flyers Fan]

Insert bad Coffey joke here. Any will do.

1. Cubs enjoy weak Coffee

2. Cubs grind Coffee

3. Coffee creamed

[Code Red]

Although this game is not over, I still would gladly take 2/3 versus Wood, Prior and Perez if the Reds can win tomorrow.

[Redmachine2003]

Well Todd you got your cup of Coffey and now that the Butterflies are gone we expect better things out of you from here on out. :D

[flynn78]

Thanks Everyone. You know you were dying to do it.

[Matt700wlw]

That must have been decaf....

[PuffyPig]

Well, when Coffey came into the game, he had us all hot and steaming, but in the end (like all Red pitchers), he left us all cold and bitter.

[Reds/Flyers Fan]

Haha...someone in the stands has a sign that says "Put in Benedict XVI"

[Matt700wlw]

Although this game is not over, I still would gladly take 2/3 versus Wood, Prior and Perez if the Reds can win tomorrow.

I'd have no complaints...we're getting some stellar pitching foes at this point in the season

[d2pmr11]

Reds need to work Prior hard this and next inning and get to the bullpen where anything is possible.

[Caseyfan21]

Well, you always hope a rookie will be able to come up and fit in right away. Todd definately has fit in with the rest of the bullpenners.

[Reds/Flyers Fan]

I'd have no complaints...we're getting some stellar pitching foes at this point in the season

And the Reds face Dontrelle Willis on Saturday and Carlos Zambrano next week in Chicago

[CincyRedsFan30]

Randa:

Flyout. 1 out.

Prior continues to just roll along through the lineup.

[wheels]

Wish I could tell you the cause, Wheels.

And yes, the Cubs hyperactive nature makes them a questionable litmus test.

My primary point is that the Reds need to start actually winning some deals and bringing power arms into the organization when they do it. Claussen was pimped as being that type of pitcher when he was acquired, but he's not right now.

I'm not ready to dump the guy, but I'm a lot more concerned right now than I hoped I'd be.

Fair asessment.

[CincyRedsFan30]

Dunn doubles.

[OSURedLeg]

Nice double the opposite way by Dunn

[Matt700wlw]

And the Reds face Dontrelle Willis on Saturday and Carlos Zambrano next week in Chicago


The road does not get any easier....

[wheels]

Well, you always hope a rookie will be able to come up and fit in right away. Todd definately has fit in with the rest of the bullpenners.

Hilarious.

[redsrule2500]

Let's go Pena!!

[Aronchis]

dull Coffey eh? Hopefully we will get sharper Coffey on the next round up.

[CincyRedsFan30]

Pena pops out. 2 outs.

[flynn78]

The thing is that you never hear other teams say (insert Reds starter here) we were just happy to be invited to the batter's box to face them. I get too much of this from our local press. We can use it as an excuse but when will other teams get to use it for us?

[CincyRedsFan30]

Aurilia grounds out. Inning over... 6-1 Cubs after 6.

[Reds/Flyers Fan]

Cubs are just lucky tonight. Ramirez makes a great diving stop then uncorks a bad throw to first that Lee is able to scoop up. Combine that with the first inning garbage and its not the Reds night.

[OldCat]

The thing is that you never hear other teams say (insert Reds starter here) we were just happy to be invited to the batter's box to face them. I get too much of this from our local press. We can use it as an excuse but when will other teams get to use it for us?

If I were a negative poster, I would say that many ML players are happy to be invited to face our pitching staff. But I won't.

[OnBaseMachine]

Nice of Rich to work the count.

Good to see Dunn continue to hit well.

[flynn78]

You got me Old Cat.

[oneupper]

:thumbdown Win Expectancy at this point (starting the 7th) = 2.9%

[Matt700wlw]

Man, that Coffey will just hit you! Wow, it's got a bite!

[TC81190]

Coffey HBP.

[CincyRedsFan30]

Hairston HBP.

[Aronchis]

The thing is that you never hear other teams say (insert Reds starter here) we were just happy to be invited to the batter's box to face them. I get too much of this from our local press. We can use it as an excuse but when will other teams get to use it for us?

and it will be sometime before you do. At this point, looking at the young talent the Reds have at SP AA upward, I think they are good prospects, in term of talents, but no Perez,Prior,Woods,Willis. That is DanO's challenge. Though, having a "good" staff isn't a bad thing either(compared to what the Reds have had).

[REDREAD]

O'Brien should be ashamed of his roster management. If the Reds didn't need a 5th starter until today, there's zero reason to have kept as many pitchers on the roster as he has.

Keeping a guy from pitching in a game situation for 19 days is crazy.

I agree that it is dumb to have Claussen be inactive so long.

I'm not sure if they were forced to keep Valentine on the roster or not (is he out of options?) But I'm glad Belise made the team, he deserved it. Unfortunately, Claussen is out of options.

My guess is they also wanted to carry 12 pitchers to sort them out and find the keepers before Hudson/Hancock are forced to be added to the roster or passed through waivers.

But yeah, I would prefer that they cut bait with the tweeners instead of extending the tryouts through the tweeners. To DanO's credit though, he did cut bait with Acevado.

[Falls City Beer]

Doesn't sound too awful from Claussen 6 Ks, 0 BBs. Defense let him down, as well.

[CincyRedsFan30]

Patterson grounds out... runner to 2B with 1 out.

[Matt700wlw]

Doesn't sound too awful from Claussen 6 Ks, 0 BBs. Defense let him down, as well.


He wasn't awful...but he wasn't anything special -- he was ok

[CincyRedsFan30]

Steve just mentioned Coffey's Bro on the air. ;)

Nomar lines out to Casey. 2 outs.

[CincyRedsFan30]

Ramirez grounds out. 6-1 Cubs, Mid. 7th.

[flynn78]

Coffey's brother is who?

[OnBaseMachine]

Good inning from Todd. You know he was nervous that first inning.

[flynn78]

Not Wes Coffey formerly of UD?

[SteelSD]

Coffey's brother is who?

A male sibling to another male child borne of the same mother or father (or both).

Was I right? What do I win????

;)

[Falls City Beer]

I can't stand that the pop-gun triplets hit 2nd, 3rd, and 4th in this lineup. Against Prior, that is just anathema.

[KronoRed]

A male sibling to another male child borne of the same mother or father (or both).

Was I right? What do I win????

;)
Koolaid

:KoolAid:

[CincyRedsFan30]

Valentin grounds out. 1 out.

[flynn78]

Thanks Steel

[SteelSD]

Thanks Steel

Hey, I'm hear to help!

His username is Coffeybro. :)

[Matt700wlw]

I wonder if they'll let Prior complete this one?

[OnBaseMachine]

We need someone to come in and pitch mopup duty. You think you can pull out the 'ol knuckleball, Steel? ;)

[flynn78]

Regroup for tomorrow. Hopefully Perez continues his slide.

[CincyRedsFan30]

Valentine is now in for the 8th.

Lee hits a HR...7-1 Cubs.

[Gainesville Red]

Last night I was thinking, "never say die," tonight I wish it would hurry up and get over. What a difference a day makes.

[Falls City Beer]

Bring back the soft tossers!

[Matt700wlw]

I think the Cubs are bringing in their pen next inning...There is still hope!! : :dancingco

[SteelSD]

We need someone to come in and pitch mopup duty. You think you can pull out the 'ol knuckleball, Steel? ;)

For what these guys are making per game?

Surely. :D

[OldCat]

Last night I was thinking, "never say die," tonight I wish it would hurry up and get over. What a difference a day makes.

I still won't say the 'D' word.

[OnBaseMachine]

For what these guys are making per game?

Surely. :D


You couldn't do any worse. Hell, I bet you could outpitch Weathers.

[REDREAD]

I'm not sure Valentine is going to make it through the year. He has occasional flashes of brillance, just enough to tease you, but more often than not, he seems to revert to the HR/BB machine that his career indicates..

[Matt700wlw]

I'm not sure Valentine is going to make it through the year. He has occasional flashes of brillance, just enough to tease you, but more often than not, he seems to revert to the HR/BB machine that his career indicates..


Another crappy pitcher obtained in the firesale of 2003...Harang really seems to be the only one panning out (so far)

[REDREAD]

But I'm still excited about seeing Coffey.. I have high hopes for him. Glad he got his debut out of the way in a game that was already over..

[Matt700wlw]

But I'm still excited about seeing Coffey.. I have high hopes for him. Glad he got his debut out of the way in a game that was already over..


It was? It was a 3 run game before he entered -- but with Prior still pitching, it probably still wouldn't have mattered

[Kc61]

Another crappy pitcher obtained in the firesale of 2003...Harang really seems to be the only one panning out (so far)

Yeah, sure was a good idea to get rid of Acevedo for being overweight. We're so deep in middle relievers, just didn't need him. Doesn't matter that he looked like a good middle reliever last year. All these other young guys are obviously better.

[Matt700wlw]

Yeah, sure was a good idea to get rid of Acevedo for being overweight. We're so deep in middle relievers, just didn't need him. Doesn't matter that he looked like a good middle reliever last year. All these other young guys are obviously better.


I had no problem getting rid of Acevedo....his attitude was enough for me, plus his work ethic sucked

[Aronchis]

Yeah, sure was a good idea to get rid of Acevedo for being overweight. We're so deep in middle relievers, just didn't need him. Doesn't matter that he looked like a good middle reliever last year. All these other young guys are obviously better.

It just isn't for this year, but developing arms that can throw heat. Not all will pan out, but if one does, along with one starting pitcher(outside of Harang) then the benefit of getting experience will be nice. Your making Acevedo sound like a sure bet. Wrong,wrong and more wrong.

[OnBaseMachine]

Cliff Bartosh in for Prior.

Griffey walks.

[sjm]

Man, Casey is playing terrible this year.

[Matt700wlw]

Casey hits into ANOTHER double play....that's been is M.O. lately

[OnBaseMachine]

Casey double play.

[flyer85]

good thing Sean didn't strikeout

[Reds/Flyers Fan]

When Casey is struggling, which he is obviosly doing now, all he does is beat the ball into the ground to second base. It is a lethal rally-killer and 10X worse than a strike-out.

[sjm]

They better sit Casey tomorrow and put Dunn at first. Esp. going against Perez.

[sjm]

That was a ball!!!!!!!

[Falls City Beer]

Man, Casey is playing terrible this year.


Folks, that may be the kindest thing one could say about Casey's play this season. I'm so glad this team is on the hook with him for 16 million dollars.

[sjm]

Randa should have been on first.

[oneupper]

They better sit Casey tomorrow and put Dunn at first. Esp. going against Perez.


I hope not. Casey is hitting like .500 against Perez.

[Reds/Flyers Fan]

They better sit Casey tomorrow and put Dunn at first. Esp. going against Perez.

Won't happen. He's the only one on this team to consistently get a free pass. No matter how bad he is.

[Kc61]

I had no problem getting rid of Acevedo....his attitude was enough for me

Maybe, but the Reds are in love with a lot of guys who don't have great track records so far.

Belisle had a 5.2 at AAA last year with 192 hits allowed in 162 innings.

Coffey maybe ready someday, but his success was at AA last year, he struggled at AAA.

Claussen had a 4.6 at AAA last year, and only after a strong second half. He did not do well in the majors.

Valentine has great stuff and I think may make it, but doesn't have enough command yet.

The young guys who seemed most ready, Hudson and Hancock, unfortunately are hurt.

Acevedo is yesterday's news, but I just think he was more ready to help than many of these guys. Hopefully, I'll be proven wrong.

[sjm]

I hope the team trades Griffey and Casey for some pitching and SS. A 2nd baseman wouldn't be bad either.

Make Dunn, Kearns, Pena, and Encarnacion the core of the lineup. Get someone speedy and gets on base at SS and 2nd.

[Matt700wlw]

Maybe, but the Reds are in love with a lot of guys who don't have great track records so far.

Belisle had a 5.2 at AAA last year with 192 hits allowed in 162 innings.

Coffey maybe ready someday, but his success was at AA last year, he struggled at AAA.

Claussen had a 4.6 at AAA last year, and only after a strong second half. He did not do well in the majors.

Valentine has great stuff and I think may make it, but doesn't have enough command yet.

The young guys who seemed most ready, Hudson and Hancock, unfortunately are hurt.

Acevedo is yesterday's news, but I just think he was more ready to help than many of these guys. Hopefully, I'll be proven wrong.


Could have been a winless situation, but it was time to move on from Acevedo...he was becoming a hassle

[oneupper]

Casey is actually hitting .500 lifetime vs. Perez (11 for 22).

[Larry Schuler]

It's pretty obvious Aurillia can't carry this team on his back by himself. If we want to win we are going to need some other guys to sack up and induce some errors up there.

[Redmachine2003]

Bergolla isn't a bad prospect for 2nd.

[oneupper]

It's pretty obvious Aurillia can't carry this team on his back by himself. If we want to win we are going to need some other guys to sack up and induce some errors up there.


There's a nickname for Rich: "The INDUCER" ;)

[Matt700wlw]

Cubs about ready to win the World Series.......oh wait, their fans will just act like they just won the World Series...

[Matt700wlw]

...regroup, get the Buccos tomorrow

[oneupper]

It's losses like these that mess up our Pythag!

[Gainesville Red]

It's pretty obvious Aurillia can't carry this team on his back by himself. If we want to win we are going to need some other guys to sack up and induce some errors up there.

:lol:

[Matt700wlw]

The Reds were Prioritized :D

[traderumor]

Folks, that may be the kindest thing one could say about Casey's play this season. I'm so glad this team is on the hook with him for 16 million dollars.

Yea, Sean's never been in a 13 game slump before. Put a stop payment on his checks.

[Falls City Beer]

Yea, Sean's never been in a 13 game slump before. Put a stop payment on his checks.


See, Sean being familiar with 13 game slumps is a big part of the problem.

[Larry Schuler]

Well tomorrow the Reds finally get a face a team that isn't first/second place caliber. Hopefully they pound on 'em.

[oneupper]

Maybe we should be heartened by the fact that a good part of the team has not played particularly well, and we are still a game over .500.

Aside from Randa and WMP, our hitters haven't been up to expectations (Griffey, Casey, Dunn, D'Lo, Kearns should ALL do better). Our pitching has been pretty much what we expected.

When a few more of our guns start firing...who knows?

[OldCat]

See, Sean being familiar with 13 game slumps is a big part of the problem.

When we get done trading Sean and everyone worse than him on the team for pitching we'll have about 2-3 postion players and 30 pitchers.

[Matt700wlw]

Everybody needs to calm down...this team is 1 game over .500, 1.5 games out of first (Cardinals) facing brutal pitching early, with most of the big bats finding themselves in an early season funk

...they'll come around, the career numbers show that they should

[Falls City Beer]

When we get done trading Sean and everyone worse than him on the team for pitching we'll have about 2-3 postion players and 30 pitchers.

Trading him's impossible; but would it kill Miley to give him a day (or nine) off? Or, at bare minimum, dropping him to 6th or 7th in the lineup?

[Matt700wlw]

Trading him's impossible; but would it kill Miley to give him a day (or nine) off? Or, at bare minimum, dropping him to 6th or 7th in the lineup?

I'll agree...a day off for Casey may not be a bad idea

[oneupper]

I'll agree...a day off for Casey may not be a bad idea


Just not tomorrow. He's the only RED who has really hit Perez well.

[Matt700wlw]

Just not tomorrow. He's the only RED who has really hit Perez well.

That's true..forgot about that.....Thursday (day game) would be good for him and Griff to take a break...Dunn can play 1st, WMP can play center, Kearns can play right and get some at bats

Pena needs to play tomorrow...he's good against lefties

[traderumor]

See, Sean being familiar with 13 game slumps is a big part of the problem.Part of the game for even the best hitters. Too much is made of numbers out of the gate, which I am surprised you are falling for. A guy hits a skid in the middle of the season, it isn't quite as noticeable.

[traderumor]

When we get done trading Sean and everyone worse than him on the team for pitching we'll have about 2-3 postion players and 30 pitchers.Are the pitchers any good?

[REDREAD]

It was? It was a 3 run game before he entered -- but with Prior still pitching, it probably still wouldn't have mattered


Well, for me, emotionally it just felt over.. i wasn't trying to slam the team.. My thought was "THis is a good spot for him to debut"..

You're right, logically it was still reasonable to hope for a comeback.

[Matt700wlw]

Well, for me, emotionally it just felt over.. i wasn't trying to slam the team.. My thought was "THis is a good spot for him to debut"..

You're right, logically it was still reasonable to hope for a comeback.

It probably was...Prior was cruising....had the bullpen been coming in for the Cubs, it probably would have been worse timing because the Cubs bullpen isn't the best

[SirFelixCat]

FWIW, I think Coffey might have been a tad nervous. He settled down after his first inning. Here's to his and the Reds success in the future!:D

[LvJ]

How was Claussen tonight? 6 Ks and 0 BBs in the boxscore look good. But how did he actually pitch? Fill me in.

[CincyReds2003]

When we get done trading Sean and everyone worse than him on the team for pitching we'll have about 2-3 postion players and 30 pitchers.


I don't understand why people are so content on trading this guy. We have sluggers with 40 HR potential, and we don't need another one, and we're not going to get a number one ace if he is traded. The guy has a .303 career batting average, he's a team leader, he was detremental in the acquisition of the free agents that we picked up in the offseason, and he's a great guy. I don't think Peter Gammons, nor the ones calling for his ouster will get their way, as Casey will probably be a lifelong Red.

[KronoRed]

How was Claussen tonight? 6 Ks and 0 BBs in the boxscore look good. But how did he actually pitch? Fill me in.
His fastball is very slow..top I saw was about 88 :(

[Phhhl]

I was at the ballgame, and I thought Claussen pitched better than his line. The reports I heard from spring training were that he was topping out at the low to mid 80's. A lefty can be effective at 88-90. He grooved one to Patterson, and Ramirez's broken bat hit with the bases loaded really stung. Jr. had the runner at third on that one if Randa handles it. But, overall, Claussen did a decent job of changing speeds, making his fastball look a little better than the reading on the radar gun. Considering the layoff and his performance this spring, I would have to say it was an encouraging start.