4/22 at Marlins, 7:35 EDT

[Cicero]

This team won't score more than two runs very often if Miley puts this same lineup out there consistently. This has been miserable.

Paul L singles...fly ball... 1 out... Paul L. steals 2B as Valentine somehow fell asleep there... runner at 2B, 1 out.

Wow, manufacturing runs still works? I remember when the Reds played get'em on over and in. It seems like they won alot more back then.

[ws1990reds]

I look forward to Larue passing balls and Valentin hogging the ball this season. :eek:

[flyer85]

Not batting Dunn and Pena 3rd and 4th should be cause to be shot. Serve the Reds right if the game ends with Dunn on deck and Pena in the hole

[OldCat]

Not batting Dunn and Pena 3rd and 4th should be cause to be shot. Serve the Reds right if the game ends with Dunn on deck and Pena in the hole

Better the Reds' lose than you be wrong, huh?

[flyer85]

Game will end with Kearns seated firmly on the bench

[CincyRedsFan30]

Top of the 9th... Mota pitching...

Cruz PH:
Ball
Strike(looking)
Foul
Ball
Ball
Foul
Fly ball...1 out

[flyer85]

Sure glad Kearns and Freel were on thebench tonight.

[CincyRedsFan30]

Jimenez K's. 2 outs.

[RedsBaron]

Not batting Dunn and Pena 3rd and 4th should be cause to be shot. Serve the Reds right if the game ends with Dunn on deck and Pena in the hole :clap: It's a simple concept really: Let your best hitters bat as often as possible. Dunn and Pena should bat no lower in the order than 3rd and 4th.

[flyer85]

:clap: It's a simple concept really: Let your best hitters bat as often as possible. Obviously not

[CincyRedsFan30]

Griffey:
Ball
Strike(looking)
Fly out... caught.... Marlins win 4-2.

[Reds Nd2]

Line on Valentine:

H K's BB's R IP
1 0 0 0 1.2

[Cedric]

Jiminez has got to be out of the lineup. It's getting very tiresome watching him and his terrible plate appearances. I've never seen a guy get less hard outs in my life than him.

[KronoRed]

Sure glad Kearns and Freel were on thebench tonight.

Safe and sound :(

[OnBaseMachine]

Who thinks Miley will sit Dunn tomorrow against Willis? I think he will. It would be a stupid thing to do, but it is Miley. Ya never know.

[CincyRedsFan30]

I hope we have some radical lineup changes tomorrow, but I wouldn't count on it.

The next thing we know... Miley will be calling Willis the "goofy left-hander" and will sit over half of the starters tomorrow. ;)

[Falls City Beer]

These are avoidable losses. Very frustrating.

[CTA513]

Who thinks Miley will sit Dunn tomorrow against Willis? I think he will.

Griffey and Jimenez should be sitting tomorrow.

[ws1990reds]

Junior is SO weak. It's too bad that Miley still thinks that Junior is a 20 year old All-Star hitter.

[OnBaseMachine]

Here is the lineup I would use:

Freel
Dunn
Pena
Kearns/Griffey
Randa
Casey
LaRue
Lopez/Aurilia

[flyer85]

These are avoidable losses. Very frustrating.Especially since this loss can be chalked up to McKeon outmanaging Miley.

[LincolnparkRed]

So what time does fielding practice start tomorrow? I mean we have given up 2 or 3 cheap runs up to the other team the last 3 days, our offense is struggling but giving up cheap runs just makes it worse. Other than Merker tonight, the outfield defense has been killing us.

[flyer85]

So what time does fielding practice start tomorrow? I mean we have given up 2 or 3 cheap runs up to the other team the last 3 days, our offense is struggling but given up cheap runs just makes it worse. Other than Merker tonight, the outfield defense has been killing us.Outfield D had nothing to do with this loss. Mckeon manipulated the situation and got the most important matchup in the 7th. Miley was sitting on his butt worrying about the 9th. jack won the game in the 7th.

[CTA513]

Especially since this loss can be chalked up to McKeon outmanaging Miley.

No it should be because Mercker threw the ball about 10 feet from 1st base.

[CincyRedsFan30]

Griffey and Jimenez should be sitting tomorrow.

The bold says it all. :)

Speaking of Griffey...ESPN just showed about four our five of his recent strikeouts prior to a commerical on Baseball Tonight.

[flyer85]

No it should be because Mercker threw the ball about 10 feet from 1st base.Mercker fields that bunt and makes the play, the Marlins still win the game.

[LincolnparkRed]

Outfield D had nothing to do with this loss. Mckeon manipulated the situation and got the most important matchup in the 7th. Miley was sitting on his butt worrying about the 0th. jack won the game in the 7th.

Not seeing the play myself I can't be sure but it seems the consensus was that Griffey misplayed Castillo's triple

[Reds/Flyers Fan]

Griffey and Jimenez should be sitting tomorrow.

Add Sean Casey to that pathetic list.

[flyer85]

Not seeing the play myself I can't be sure but it seems the consensus was that Griffey misplayed Castillo's tripleThe ball was hit over Jrs head. He never had a chance. The ball was hit almost 400 feet. The key was that McKeon manipulated Miley so he got the Conine-Mercker matchup he wanted.

[Falls City Beer]

Not seeing the play myself I can't be sure but it seems the consensus was that Griffey misplayed Castillo's triple

The game was lost by the lineup construction.

[Aronchis]

The problem with Casey right now, is he isn't hitting with any power. When he slumps, this is Sean's way of doing it. Add to that a ineffective Griffey,Jimenez and Kearns, the Reds O is gasping for air. Sounds like Sean needs to have a fireside chat with the team.

[Falls City Beer]

The problem with Casey right now, is he isn't hitting with any power. When he slumps, this is Sean's way of doing it. Add to that a infective Griffey,Jimenez and Kearns, the Reds O is gasping for air. Sounds like Sean needs to have a fireside chat with the team.

Really, how was Kearns a problem tonight?

[flyer85]

The game was lost by the lineup construction.That didn't help but allowing a matchup leading off the 7th where a batter is hitting .800 against a pitcher is criminal. Also Miley allowed JV to take the most important AB of the game for the Reds.

[westofyou]

The ball was hit over Jrs head. He never had a chance. The ball was hit almost 400 feet. The key was that McKeon manipulated Miley so he got the Conine-Mercker matchup he wanted.

Yep, I bet Lenny Harris gets a little fish sticker to put on his helmet.

Letting Lenny Harris dictate your pitching moves is like letting a krishna man your grill on the 4th of July.

Just plain wrong.

[BUTLER REDSFAN]

i cant stand to watch a pitcher pitch his butt off for 2 hours and then a reliever comes in and with 5 minutes the game is over

[Falls City Beer]

i cant stand to watch a pitcher pitch his butt off for 2 hours and then a reliever comes in and with 5 minutes the game is over

Dude, Harang hardly pitched his butt off. He was getting rocked by Gonzalez and Burnett before the end of the 6th and was pitching behind in the count since the 2nd inning. He was fortunate the Marlins didn't pummel him.

[traderumor]

Griffey is done. I've given him the benefit of the doubt that he is still recovering, but if that is the case, he should not be playing every day. Time for the Reds manager to quit worrying about who is getting paid what, and who has a reputation and who doesn't, and attempt to put his best eight bats in the lineup and let the other stiffs fight for ABs. I was sick all night seeing Griffey go through those horrible at bats knowing Austin Kearns is sitting on the bench collecting dust while the real statue is playing. Ryan Freel has delivered every time they've called on him, let Jimenez work out of his slump in BP or down in the lineup. Burnett was very beatable in the early going, but that top of the order could do nothing to make it happen.

Time to quit being the nice organization and start cutting loose folks who don't earn their keep, or sit the guy on the bench regardless of his salary when he doesn't have it anymore. Nice organizations will have a lot of hangers on. Winning organizations cut loose guys with bad contracts and try to figure how not to write bad contracts, not keep on running guys out there based on the size of their paycheck (see Griffey, Graves).

[BUTLER REDSFAN]

why is kearns seemingly the only one constantly getting benched

[flyer85]

Without some better lienups and some luck this could very easily turn into a 1-5 or 0-6 road trip.

[BUTLER REDSFAN]

its a 9 game road trip aint it??

[Falls City Beer]

why is kearns seemingly the only one constantly getting benched

Guys that take a walk are the devil incarnate in this organization.

[flyer85]

Griffey is done. I've given him the benefit of the doubt that he is still recovering, but if that is the case, he should not be playing every day. Time for the Reds manager to quit worrying about who is getting paid what, and who has a reputation and who doesn't, and attempt to put his best eight bats in the lineup and let the other stiffs fight for ABs. Miley is lacking the gravitas. A low paid career minor leaguer with little job security is not the man to send Jr to the bench.

[traderumor]

Yep, I bet Lenny Harris gets a little fish sticker to put on his helmet.

Letting Lenny Harris dictate your pitching moves is like letting a krishna man your grill on the 4th of July.

Just plain wrong.

C'mon, man, he is the career leader in pinch hits, that makes him, like, the best pinch hitter ever.

[Mutaman]

Did't hear or see the game, and I'm a real pesimist, but the pitching continues to be halfway ok which is the key to a decent season. The offense will come around.

[BUTLER REDSFAN]

it really is amazing to watch the alleged offense on this team scratch and claw for 2 runs every game

[Falls City Beer]

Did't hear or see the game, and I'm a real pesimist, but the pitching continues to be halfway ok which is the key to a decent season. The offense will come around.

You have to put in the best offense to win.

[flyer85]

I still remember the WLW tribute to

L-E-N-N-Y set to Memories.

Marty's call "there's another bonehead play by Lenny Harris".

[Reds Nd2]

why is kearns seemingly the only one constantly getting benched

.182/.357/.182 in his last five games probably has something to do with it.

Griffey:.190/.346/.333
Dunn: .444/.583/1.056
Pena: .391/.440/1.000