July 23rd - Reds vs. Brewers

[CTA513]

Reds Brewers
1. R Freel, 3B 1. B Clark, CF
2. F Lopez, SS 2. R Weeks, 2B
3. S Casey, 1B 3. L Overbay, 1B
4. K Griffey Jr., CF 4. C Lee, LF
5. R Aurilia, 2B 5. G Jenkins, RF
6. A Dunn, LF 6. B Hall, SS
7. A Kearns, RF 7. W Helms, 3B
8. J Valentin, C 8. D Miller, C
9. B Claussen, P 9. V Santos, P

Game Time: 7:10 p.m. ET
Radio: WLW 700

[KronoRed]

Today it's understandable not to have EE playing.

But...still insanity to have RA in front of Dunn and Kearns

[Ravenlord]

for the love all that is holy, please trade Aurilia.

[smith288]

I cant wait until Aurillia is gone. He is not a Red in my book. I just cant embrace the guy.

[jmcclain19]

I picked up Aurilia on my fantasy team last week though. I feel dirty. He's doing ok for me.

But I do agree with the sentiment. He's just not a Red I tend to like. But I'll milk his recent streak for all it's worth.

[DoogMinAmo]

This is Valentin's last day in the lineup before Jason comes back, I hope.

[LvJ]

I think it's a total disgrace to the sport, hell - to AMERICA to have Aurilia batting ahead of Dunn and Kearns.

[Johnny Vander m]

I never understood the hatred on this board for Aurilia and even Valentin. Sure Rich should not be batting no where but 8th but he is a good back up utility player and at very little cost. Hey I was there with you all when Lopez was sitting and RA was playing SS, but that was Mileys fault not Rich's. What was he to do, tell Miley I need to sit and let others play? "Hey Dave, don't let me play on a daily basis as I don't wan't to upset RedZoners" :help: :dunno:

[Redmachine2003]

I think they want RA to get as many good pitches as he can with Runner on base to try and increase his trade value.

[RosieRed]

What was he to do, tell Miley I need to sit and let others play? "Hey Dave, don't let me play on a daily basis as I don't wan't to upset RedZoners" :help: :dunno:

Exactly what he should have done! :p: ;)

[Johnny Vander m]

Ok Rosie, :beerme: :D you win. I got a good laugh out of your answer.

[smith288]

I never understood the hatred on this board for Aurilia and even Valentin. Sure Rich should not be batting no where but 8th but he is a good back up utility player and at very little cost. Hey I was there with you all when Lopez was sitting and RA was playing SS, but that was Mileys fault not Rich's. What was he to do, tell Miley I need to sit and let others play? "Hey Dave, don't let me play on a daily basis as I don't wan't to upset RedZoners" :help: :dunno: Its his whole attitude. His self entitlement when he was being benched. His sorry bush league treatment after Miley was fired, his complaining about playing short.

The guy would have bene fine in my book if he just kept a Jacob Cruz like profile. Cruz, I like, because he is just glad to be where he is and give 100% even though he is professional pinch hitter.

[Joseph]

This is Valentin's last day in the lineup before Jason comes back, I hope.

Amen

[CTA513]

Clark doubles.

[Johnny Vander m]

You are right Smith, I forgot about that attitude and also one time he complained that he didn't sign as a utility player. Where is my brain sometimes? I lothe the Aurilia signing! :bang: :devil:

[GriffeyFan]

I don't think Rich really needs to be showcased. I mean, comeon, what is Rich really going to bring us in a trade? Nothing of any value. He won't bring us a prospect of half the quality of the pair we got for Randa.

Just the truth.

This lineup is exactly why Narron won't be back next year.

[smith288]

You are right Smith, I forgot about that attitude and also one time he complained that he didn't sign as a utility player. Where is my brain sometimes? I lothe the Aurilia signing! :bang: :devil: Seriously, Aurillia is the Anti-Randa. I personally dont like him (professionally), never have and dont expect to in the future.

Ever see a person and just have a feeling you dont like them? Thats me with Aurillia.

[CTA513]

Weeks singles, throwing error allows Weeks to go to 2nd and Clark to score.

1-0 Brewers.

[CTA513]

Overbay homers.

3-0 Brewers.

[gm]

Freel at 3rd all year, is that what you wanted, Puffy?

[Matt700wlw]

Is Claussen hurt?

[CTA513]

I bet Claussen is still throwing 1st pitch fastballs.

[pedro]

casey should have made that play.

[CTA513]

Lee grounds out. 1 out.

[RFS62]

Uh, can we get those new guys up here right away? Like, tonight?

[CTA513]

Jenkins strikes out. 2 outs.

[KronoRed]

Get EE in there.

Maybe he can pitch? :D

[CTA513]

Hall flies out. 3 outs.

3-0 Brewers

[Falls City Beer]

In this withering heat and humidity, I say Victor Santos looks just as bad as Claussen does. Strap yourselves in, this one's going to be a high-scoring affair.

[CTA513]

Claussen is now sporting a 4.50 ERA.

[CTA513]

Freel grounds out. 1 out.

[Fullboat]

That Casey figurine is freaky

[CTA513]

Lopez flies out. 2 outs.

[CTA513]

Casey grounds out. 3 outs.

3-0 Brewers after 1 inning.

[RosieRed]

9-pitch inning for Santos.

[creek14]

Casey grounds out. 3 outs.

3-0 Brewers after 1 inning.
I'm at work, not listening. IF someone had been on, less than 2 outs, would that grounder been a double play? :devil: :evil: :devil:

[CTA513]

Helms singles.

[CTA513]

Miller lines out. 1 out.

[Mutaman]

It would have been nice to see Clausen step up and pitch a decent game tonight. Everytime I start to feel positve about this team they tank it.

[CTA513]

Santos strikes out. 2 outs.

[RFS62]

I'm at work, not listening. IF someone had been on, less than 2 outs, would that grounder been a double play? :devil: :evil: :devil:


Well, you might call it a PC, or Provisional Casey.

[CTA513]

Clark pops out. 3 outs.

[BoydsOfSummer]

Well that settles it. Marty and Hal give two thumbs up to the trade.

[CTA513]

Griffey flies out. 1 out.

[smith288]

Did Griffey swing at the first pitch? I think he saw all of 4 pitches last night total. :lol:

[CTA513]

Aurilia singles.

[Fullboat]

Ya know we should diss....Aurilia more often.

[CTA513]

Did Griffey swing at the first pitch? I think he saw all of 4 pitches last night total. :lol:

he saw 4 or 5 pitches in that at bat.

[CTA513]

Dunn walks.

[CTA513]

Kearns strikes out. 2 outs.

[BoydsOfSummer]

Anybody watching the Bosox-ChiSox? My gawd El Duque has wicked ahhsum slider working tonight.

[CTA513]

Valentin flies out. 3 outs.

3-0 Brewers after 2 innings.

[oregonred]

Ya know we should diss....Aurilia more often.

Oddly enough Rich A has matched his career OPS # of .762.

Let him hit for another week in front of Dunn and pad his OPS and someone just might actually take him off our hands for a middling prospect...

[Falls City Beer]

Next time through they're going to launch on Santos.

[DoogMinAmo]

Claussen got touched up in the first, did he settle down, or is it all luck?

[CTA513]

Weeks pops out. 1 out.

[CTA513]

Overbay flies out. 2 outs.

[RFS62]

Say Hey, Junior.

[CTA513]

Lee homers.

4-0 Brewers.

[Gallen5862]

This is not a good way for Claussen to start. he needs to settle down.

[Aronchis]

Claussen looks to be going through some deadarm. He should be out of it by Augest.

[CTA513]

Claussen has given up 17 homeruns, I think hes trying to ketch up with Milton & Ortiz.

:eek:

[Fullboat]

Oddly enough Rich A has matched his career OPS # of .762.

Let him hit for another week in front of Dunn and pad his OPS and someone just might actually take him off our hands for a middling prospect...

Thats the idea oregonred and I'm sure the FO has told him to make the most of this opportunity because when EE comes up
and freel moves to sencond Rich will be sitting.

[CTA513]

Jenkins strikes out. 3 outs.

4-0 Brewers.

[DoogMinAmo]

He is getting squeezed on the outside now, no wonder the Brewers are teeing off.

[CTA513]

Claussen grounds out. 1 out.

[Puffy]

Freel at 3rd all year, is that what you wanted, Puffy?

The Reds are 14 games under .500 - would Freel at third until EdE was ready (which was a month ago) really have made them worse?? Not to mention the money going to pitching?

So yes, I would have taken that for more money going towards pitching.

[CTA513]

He is getting squeezed on the outside now, no wonder the Brewers are teeing off.

I bet it doesnt help him out when he throws a 1st pitch fastball about 99.9% of the time.

[CTA513]

Freel with and infield single.

[DoogMinAmo]

I bet it doesnt help him out when he throws a 1st pitch fastball about 99.9% of the time.

Of the five hits he has given up today, the solo home run in the 3rd, and the leadoff double in the first came on the first pitch. And if it is pitch selection, is that not Valentin's fault?

[CTA513]

Of the five hits he has given up today, the solo home run in the 3rd, and the leadoff double in the first came on the first pitch. And if it is pitch selection, is that not Valentin's fault?

Larue caught the last game Claussen pitched and he threw a bunch of 1st pitch fastballs.... I think Claussen just likes to throw fastballs.

[CTA513]

Lopez walks.

[flyer85]

I bet the pitcher would feel a little different if it was Dunn in #3 hole

[flyer85]

Larue caught the last game Claussen pitched and he threw a bunch of 1st pitch fastballs.... I think Claussen just likes to throw fastballs.Claussen needs to learn to pitch off of his offspeed stuff against aggressive fastball hitting teams like the Cubs and Brewers.

[CTA513]

Casey singles, Freel scores, Lopez to 3rd.

4-1 Brewers.

[CTA513]

Griffey grounds in to a double play. 3 outs.

4-1 Brewers after 3 innings.

[SteelSD]

Griffey grounds into a Casey. Three down.

[flyer85]

Jr with a first pitch DP

[smith288]

Jr with a first pitch DP I think Griffey is getting into a habit into a game of swinging at anything close on the first pitch.

[flyer85]

Booker picked up save #14 in the first game of a DH

[flyer85]

I think Griffey is getting into a habit into a game of swinging at anything close on the first pitch.sportsline shoed the pitch as at the bottom of the strike zone. However, I don't know if it really was.

[CTA513]

Hall strikes out. 1 out.

[CTA513]

Helms walks.

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Miller walks.

[CTA513]

Santos attempts to bunt, but pops out. 2 outs.

[CTA513]

Clark hit by pitch, bases loaded.

[flyer85]

weeks can come close to putting this away

[Gallen5862]

How many pitches has Claussen thrown?

[CTA513]

How many pitches has Claussen thrown?

Right now hes at about 82 pitches.

[CTA513]

Weeks walks, 1 run scores.

5-1 Brewers.

[flyer85]

that should be it

[CTA513]

bases loaded for Overbay....

[smith288]

Yea Claussen...putting them right where we want them.

[flyer85]

Brewers have scored on 3 walks and a HBP

Overbay is 7-10 off of Claussen

[Gainesville Red]

Claussen looks like he's got nothing tonight.

[CTA513]

Grand Slam!

9-1 Brewers.

[Aronchis]

Narron is a idiot for letting Claussen pitch to Overbay, he has all the classic signs of deadarm, yet he lets him continue to struggle.

[flyer85]

Claussen looks like he's got nothing tonight.he should already be gone

[Gainesville Red]

Nice work Claussen.

[CTA513]

Claussen with a nice 5.00 ERA

[flyer85]

That was Miley Jr letting him pitch to Overbay when he was 7-10 with 3 HRs. now 8-11 with 4 HRs

Sorry but I am not the least bit impressed by Narron. Game is over because Narron was asleep at the wheel.

[SteelSD]

Claussen had nothing tonight. Just nothing. I continue to hold that he can survive only sporadically at his current velocity.

[Aronchis]

Claussen had nothing tonight. Just nothing. I continue to hold that he can survive only sporadically at his current velocity.

But the previous starts before the ASB, he was hitting 91-92 on the gun.

[flyer85]

Claussen had nothing tonight. Just nothing. I continue to hold that he can survive only sporadically at his current velocity.his current velocity is where he has been all year. His is way too hittable, which describes almost every pitcher on the staff.

BTW, Coffey is the most hittable pitcher on the staff.

[flyer85]

Brandon's problem is his off speed stuff isn't that good and when his location with his fastball is a little off he struggles. 88, 91 ... not much a differnce. He has to be precise with his location and he has never consistently shown that ability, post TJ

[CTA513]

Isnt that 2 times in a row that Claussen has killed a 3 game winning streak?

[CTA513]

Any chance Keisler or Belisle can get a start or will they be stuck in the bullpen forever?

[corkedbat]

I think D0 brought Milton in partly as an example to the young arms on the staff -and Brandon has been paying careful attention. :bang:

[SteelSD]

But the previous starts before the ASB, he was hitting 91-92 on the gun.

Boy, I didn't see that. I saw him at 87-91, but I sure didn't see him consistently at 91-92 MPH.

[Aronchis]

Brandon's problem is his off speed stuff isn't that good and when his location with his fastball is a little off he struggles. 88, 91 ... not much a differnce. He has to be precise with his location and he has never shown that ability, post TJ

Claussen didn't get by on offspeed stuff in the first place. His minor league career was built on power pitching and a nasty breaking pitch. He would mix in a cutter with it and that was all he needed.

His velocity has fluxed this year, from peeking out in the high 80's in April to the low 90's in May and June. That has been his MO since return from TJ surgury. Some guys just don't return from it though the odds are good for most.

[Aronchis]

Boy, I didn't see that. I saw him at 87-91, but I sure didn't see him consistently at 91-92 MPH.

In April he didn't, but around May, he was around 89-92mph much more often and it showed in his starts.

[Red in Chicago]

That was Miley Jr letting him pitch to Overbay when he was 7-10 with 3 HRs. now 8-11 with 4 HRs

Sorry but I am not the least bit impressed by Narron. Game is over because Narron was asleep at the wheel.

couldn't have said it any better myself...this game has become a joke.

[CTA513]

should Claussen make his next start or be given time to rest?

[flyer85]

Claussen didn't get by on offspeed stuff in the first place. His minor league career was built on power pitching and a nasty breaking pitch.which he doesn't have anymore. What was once a nasty slider is now a rolling slurve. His fastball isn't good enough anymore, without quality breaking stuff he will not succeed.

[Aronchis]

which he doesn't have anymore. What was once a nasty slider is now a rolling slurve. His fastball isn't good enough anymore, without quality breaking stuff he will not succeed.

Yuppers, TJ took away his best two pitches. I would let him throw "max" effort in the bullpen and check if he regains some of his stuff there.

[flyer85]

Yuppers, TJ took away his best two pitches. I would let him throw "max" effort in the bullpen and check if he regains some of his stuff there.I saw a post TJ start in Louisville right after the trade. He struck out 10 in 6 innings, mostly on the nasty slider. He had righties hacking at that thing, it was bouncing in the dirt down and in. After the Reds shut him down in August of that year I have never seen that slider again.

[flyer85]

Honestly Keisler has better stuff than Claussen does. I am not talking tonight because I am not watching.

[flyer85]

BTW, Claussen ought to make his next start.

[CTA513]

Honestly Keisler has better stuff than Claussen does. I am not talking tonight because I am not watching.

Id like to see him given a chance at starting, but I dont see it happening unless one of the starters gets hurt.

[flyer85]

Id like to see him given a chance at starting, but I dont see it happening unless one of the starters gets hurt.I don't really think Keisler is any kind of a long term solution.

[flyer85]

freel steals down by 8?

[CTA513]

I don't really think Keisler is any kind of a long term solution.

When the starting pitching is as bad as the Reds, they should try out all options before settling with what they have.

[WVRedsFan]

Casey Walks!

[flyer85]

Santos closing in on 90 pitches

[flyer85]

game might look a little different if Keisler had pitched to Overbay.

[CTA513]

Dunn doubles in 2 runs, goes to 3rd on error.

[RFS62]

What a shame we can't pitch.

An incredible, stinkin' shame.

[CTA513]

game might look a little different if Keisler had pitched to Overbay.

Narron was too slow to pull the trigger.

[Gallen5862]

whats the score now?

[CTA513]

whats the score now?

9-5 Brewers.

[SteelSD]

9-5 Mil

[RosieRed]

9-5 Brewers

[Gainesville Red]

9-5

[GAC]

Claussen 90 pitches in a little over 3 innings?? OUCH!

[flyer85]

Narron was too slow to pull the trigger.I said that at the time. Brewers scored 5 on 1 hit in that inning.

Dunn got a hit with RISP?

Everytime Dunn steps to the plate there is a runner is scoring position.

[SteelSD]

Kearns popped out on 3-2 count. Dunn has to hold. Valentin coming up.

[CTA513]

Marty already tired of Kearns.

[Gallen5862]

We need Dunn to score.

[CTA513]

Santos is given a 9-1 lead and gives up 4 runs... so this is what its like to face Reds pitching. ;)

[LvJ]

Watching the Sox-Sox game on WGN ... it's funny listening to these guys.

Crede full count walk, Uribe comes up and grounds into a double play. Right when Uribe swung, I think Ken said "Awwww" ... and then it was complete silence. No "4-6-3" .. just "awww" .. :laugh:

This brings up the question, would you rather have quaility annoucers who favor no team (or sometimes the other team, grande!) .. or crappy annoucers who are total homers? :thumbup:

[SteelSD]

Valentin flys out to Jenkins (hit it very hard).

To say that Valentin is a high-ball hitter would be an understatement.

[flyer85]

I do love the Hawk's strikeout call - "grab some bench".

[Jaycint]

I can't stand those homers for the White Sox. Ken Harrelson is horrible. Give me two professional, unbiased guys any day of the week. I have that Sox game on but it's on mute. :)

[WVRedsFan]

Narron was too slow to pull the trigger.

Exactly. If he had pulled Claussen, the game might be tied.

Is it just me or do umpires squeeze Claussen all the time. It seemed like Brandon wasn't getting the corner pitches so to get strikes, he was leaving himself open for the big fly.

Either way, Narron did his best Miley-Gullett impression on that one.

[flyer85]

Valentin flys out to Jenkins (hit it very hard).

To say that Valentin is a high-ball hitter would be an understatement.Javier doesn't get cheated either. He gets his rips. The first HR he hit off a Maddux on Thursday was a knee high curve, it was impressive because he launched it way up in the air.

[Gainesville Red]

Most of the announcers I don't like, but I'm sort of coming around on these Brewer's announcers (T.V.).

[flyer85]

BTW, I have a feeling Aurilia doesn't mind batting in front of Dunn. Either a K or basehit in every at bat in the 5 hole.

[SteelSD]

Awful 0-1 pitch to Carlos Lee and two more Runs put on the board.

Two Out damage just killing the Reds tonight.

[RFS62]

I think we're going to have to go to the nickel defense.

[flyer85]

bad mistake giving lee anything to hit with jenkins behind him

[SteelSD]

I think we're going to have to go to the nickel defense.

Well, we're now sure that we need to go for two on every possession from here on out.

[oneupper]

Javier doesn't get cheated either. He gets his rips. The first HR he hit off a Maddux on Thursday was a knee high curve, it was impressive because he launched it way up in the air.

Valentin's GO/AO ratio is lower than Dunn's. He gets the ball into the air.

[flyer85]

I think we're going to have to go to the nickel defense.I was thinking four corners and keep the ball away from them

[Gainesville Red]

Olmedo in for Felo, Standridge pitching.

[Gallen5862]

Lets hope Standridge has another good outing.

[flyer85]

Lets hope Standridge has another good outing.Standridge is a pitcher with "stuff" - hard sinking fastball and a tight hard curve. he just isn't sure where it is going most of the time.

[KronoRed]

The post Randa era is not off to a good start ;)

[RFS62]

I was thinking four corners and keep the ball away from them


Yeah, have to go with the no huddle the next three possessions.

[RFS62]

Ya know, that Freel over at third base, he's scrappy. Thing is, so is a weasel on crack.

Speed kills, Ryan.

[Gainesville Red]

Yeah, Freel'll make ya want to kill something every once in a while.

[Aronchis]

Hudson is pitching tomorrow by the way ;)

[RFS62]

Ya know, I'm really happy for Brady Clark.

He deserves the success he's having this year.

[flyer85]

Ya know, that Freel over at third base, he's scrappy. Thing is, so is a weasel on crack.

Speed kills, Ryan. :beerme:

[CTA513]

Hudson is pitching tomorrow by the way ;)

We can only hope its Tim Hudson in Luke Hudsons uniform.

[CTA513]

Standridge ERA has made its way from over 11.00 to 3.72.

[Gallen5862]

Great job Standridge. :)

[Gainesville Red]

I love watching Casey run. It's comedy, pure comedy.

[flyer85]

I love watching Casey run. It's comedy, pure comedy.kind of like the Tasmanian Devil. Parts going all different directions.

[Gainesville Red]

11-6. Dunn bloop single scores Casey.

[KronoRed]

I like that Dunn guy

[flyer85]

back to back hits with RISP.

What is BF going to have to complain about?

[Gallen5862]

Way to go Dunn.

[Aronchis]

This the hottest Dunn has been since April.

[Gainesville Red]

kind of like the Tasmanian Devil. Parts going all different directions.

Plus his helmet goes flying off 90% of the time. It's really ridiculous.

[Gainesville Red]

I wonder if I'm faster than Casey. I wonder if he's just slow for an athlete, or slow period.

[CTA513]

I love watching Casey run. It's comedy, pure comedy.

Have you seen Bengie Molina run? lol I watched an Angels game the other day and its like he was running in 2 feet of mud. :laugh:

[KronoRed]

...why the heck is Lopez out and RA still in?

You know..you don't ALWAYS have to double switch, letting the pitcher swing won't kill ya ;)

[CTA513]

Kearns with a sac fly.

11-7 Brewers.

[Gainesville Red]

Sac fly for Kearns. On a diving catch for Jenkins.

[KronoRed]

Kearns has that sac fly special something

[Gallen5862]

Well we are trying to make this a game.

[Gainesville Red]

Now would be a nice time for Valentin's home run de jur.

[Gainesville Red]

Now would be a nice time for Valentin's home run de jur.

Is it de jur or de jure?

[KronoRed]

Grey poupon?

[RosieRed]

Du jour?

[TylerScottDavis]

What just happened to Weathers?

[LexingtonRedsFan]

Nice to see Weathers back on the mound

[Gainesville Red]

I think your right.

[Gallen5862]

Thats it Rosie. You are correct.

[RosieRed]

Thats it Rosie. You are correct.

Yay! What do I win? :)

[TylerScottDavis]

MLB Gameday showed a choaching visit to the mound and an Injury Delay, but he's pitching again now.

[Gainesville Red]

Carlos Lee is good.

[KronoRed]

Yay! What do I win? :)

Grey Poupon!

[Gainesville Red]

Yay! What do I win? :)

rep points from all around.

[flyer85]

Is it de jur or de jure?du jour

I know de jure is "by law"

[RFS62]

Du jour?

oui

[flyer85]

Dunn in July - 20 games

68AB 18R 19H 7HR 21RBI 16BB 19K

[Gallen5862]

I hope RA does not get the 550 Plate appearances. There is a 2 million dollar option for 06 if he does.

[Gainesville Red]

du jour

I know de jure is "by law"

Man, I was way off. :bang:

[KronoRed]

Dunn in July - 20 games

68AB 18R 19H 7HR 21RBI 16BB 19K

Best player on the team.

[flyer85]

Best player on the team.heck no ... Reds need to trade their only sure thing

[RFS62]

Damn. Ryan, get your head in the game

[KronoRed]

Jacob Cruz is cool
http://mlb.mlb.com/images/players/mugshot/ph_112901.jpg

Ryan!!

[flyer85]

pop goes the weasel. Shoot the weasel

[CTA513]

Freel has 2 errors and now got picked off 1st.

[Big Klu]

Jacob Cruz is cool
http://mlb.mlb.com/images/players/mugshot/ph_112901.jpg

He looks like a beatnik poet.

"Like cool, man...." :cool:

[RFS62]

To Freel, coffee is probably a sedative.

[Gainesville Red]

So Freel's got 2 hits a walk, and a stolen base. But also a throwing error and got picked off. Sounds about right. Guess he also scored twice, guess the good out weighs the bad.

[KronoRed]

He's better at 2nd...slightly

EE is better at 3rd then on the bench

Just sayin

[RFS62]

Wow, Austin's cousin on the mound

[Gainesville Red]

I'd hate to have to bat against Turnbow.

[RFS62]

Dude looks like a taxi cab with the doors open

[Gainesville Red]

Griff 0-5.

[flyer85]

I think Jr needs a day off

[Gainesville Red]

When's the last time the Reds had someone who threw 99-100?

[flyer85]

did RA actually K on a ball over his head

[CTA513]

With Hudson pitching tomorrow the Reds will probably lose, lets hope they decided to let Belisle have his start.

[flyer85]

When's the last time the Reds had someone who threw 99-100?Dibble

[KronoRed]

11-7 Final

Bad guys win

[Gallen5862]

Hopefully EE gets the start tommorrow.

[oneupper]

11-7 Final

Bad guys win

Good guys go back to the cellar.

[oneupper]

did RA actually K on a ball over his head

yep...a Piñata.

[gm]

The Reds are 14 games under .500 - would Freel at third until EdE was ready (which was a month ago) really have made them worse?? Not to mention the money going to pitching?

So yes, I would have taken that for more money going towards pitching.

I'll say this one last time, and with Joe's move west the subject should be closed.

The Reds thought so much of Freel as a starting 3rd baseman that they had Austin Kearns working out at the hot corner, last winter.

Then they signed Randa.

Based on Ryan's 2 errors today...the Reds could've been lot a lot worse off without Randa during the first half of 2005, thank goodness we didn't have to find out how much

Don't you need somebody to loathe?

[gm]

Kearns popped out on 3-2 count. Dunn has to hold. Valentin coming up.

Liner/flare to RF that Jenkins laid out to catch

(edit: my bad, the liner to Geoff was Kearn's next AB)

[gm]

Most of the announcers I don't like, but I'm sort of coming around on these Brewer's announcers (T.V.).

Daron Sutton and Bill Schroeder. Sutton is the son of Don and Bill was a backup catcher for the Brewers in the early '80s. I've been listening to 'em for 5+ years and their act hasn't gotten old. FSN north always seems to be broadcasting the Red's games, and I'd rather listen to Daron and Bill than George and the Creeper calling the action

They'll be interviewing Junior and Brady Clark tomorrow before the game, if you've got DirecTV it should be on channel 642

[gm]

MLB Gameday showed a choaching visit to the mound and an Injury Delay, but he's pitching again now.

Dave just made a deliberate motion with his arm ("I've gotta stay on top of the ball") and the coaches thought he might be injured. Schroeder joked when catchers get nailed by a foul tip the bench just laughs, but when pitchers grimace the trainer sends out 15 ambulances. :D

[DoogMinAmo]

The sooner Aurilia is traded, the sooner he won't be out there(how deep is that?). He is only out there now for shining purposes. If there are no takers by the 31st, I guarantee it (for whatever it is worth), Aurilia will not be an everyday starter.

[gm]

Freel has 2 errors and now got picked off 1st.

Ryan's got an arm for the outfield, where accuracy is relative

[Ravenlord]

Ryan's got an arm for the outfield, where accuracy is relativehe's got a better one for 2B.

[gm]

When's the last time the Reds had someone who threw 99-100?

Marc Kroon?

[gm]

he's got a better one for 2B.

I suspect that if Freel was given a month of starts at 2B fans would change their tune...but I doubt he'll ever be given the opportunity (in Cincy, or elsewhere)

Ryan's the best defensive CF'er on the roster (a faster Brady Clark?) but unless Casey & Griffey are dealt he won't get a regular gig there, either

Best role for the amped-up weasel? The one he has--utilityman. Over-expose him and he'll wind up back on the DL