Reds and Braves 8-4-05

[redsfan30]

Atlanta Cincinnati
1 Rafael Furcal, SS Ryan Freel, 2B
2 Kelly Johnson, LF Felipe Lopez, SS
3 Marcus Giles, 2B Ken Griffey Jr., CF
4 Andruw Jones, CF Adam Dunn, LF
5 Adam LaRoche, 1B Sean Casey, 1B
6 Jeff Francoeur, RF Austin Kearns, RF
7 Brian McCann, C Javier Valentin, C
8 Wilson Betemit, 3B Edwin Encarnacion, 3B
9 Kyle Davies, P Aaron Harang, P

Here are the lineups. Reds going for the series win!

[Matt700wlw]

I think Aurilia overdid his welcome with his comments. He hasn't played at all.

And he shouldn't.

[KronoRed]

DFA him.

[Elam]

It's the 4th not the 5th

[VI_RedsFan]

I think Aurilia overdid his welcome with his comments. He hasn't played at all.

And he shouldn't.

We should release him. He may have provided some offense for us, but with the comments he's made, I have no respect for him. "I guess I'm stuck here" ?!?!... what an idiot.

[traderumor]

I think Aurilia overdid his welcome with his comments. He hasn't played at all.

And he shouldn't. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

[cumberlandreds]

That's just about the perfect lineup for the Reds! Good chance to take this series tonight and keep up the winning ways!

[listen up]

That's one reason I like Narron better than Miley. Miley would've probably had Aurilia in there every day after his whining. Narron sticks it back in his face and shows him that he's the boss and he'll make the decisions. Basically telling Rich to shove it, which takes even more balls since Rich is coming off a game where he hit a monster shot. I don't think Miley has those balls. Also, this lineup is much better than anything Miley put together the whole season. Now let's go take this series. :beerme:

[SirFelixCat]

Man I can't wait to get home tonight and watch this. How sweet it is going to be to win the series against the Braves after getting our "F" at the trade deadline ;)

[redsfan30]

It's the 4th not the 5th
Oops. I'll get it changed.

[cincyinco]

Lookin forward to game time.. !! 2 of 3 from Atlanta?

[Heath]

Hey Matt - has Marty given you the love after every scoreboard show?

Heard it last night on the way home.

Who is Rich Aurilia?? and why does he keep calling ny house wanting to play on my softball team??

[creek14]

I'm not a big Geo fan, but I think he almost lost it when Chris welcomed him back. Has to be hard for him.

[Gallen5862]

I found the game. It was listed on espn but looks like on tbs.

[cincyinco]

I wish Narron would flip Kearns and Casey, break up the lefties just a bit..

[Matt700wlw]

Hey Matt - has Marty given you the love after every scoreboard show?



That's me. I feel like I'm in trouble each time though, he's been using my full name ;)

[Gallen5862]

Tbs said the braves entire lineup homegrown from their farm system.

[Oxilon]

Signs of a great franchise: The entire lineup is homegrown.

[Gallen5862]

It's great to see a Reds game televized.

[creek14]

Signs of a great franchise: The entire lineup is homegrown.
They said last night that when they had a game vs TX, everyone including the DH's were homegrown. That's pretty amazing.

[DoogMinAmo]

Pitching to Furcal and Giles looks tough, the strike sone must be a total of 7 inches tall combined.

[Ben from Cincy]

What's even more amazing is that they are all productive.

[Ben from Cincy]

I've met Giles and he's listed at 5'8", but that seems extremely generous.

[DoogMinAmo]

Why do I have a weird feeling that a single scores two here?

These guys are beyond fast... their scrappy.

[Gallen5862]

I had a power surge. How did the first runner reach base?

[cincyinco]

Hope Harang settles down..

[DoogMinAmo]

I had a power surge. How did the first runner reach base?

Single to center.

[cincyinco]

Top 1ST B:2 S:1 O:0
Rafael Furcal singles on a line drive to center fielder Ken GriffeyJr.

Top 1ST B:3 S:2 O:1
Kelly Johnson pops out to third baseman Edwin Encarnacion.

Top 1ST B:1 S:1 O:1
Marcus Giles singles on a ground ball to right fielder Austin Kearns. Rafael Furcal to 2nd.

[Tony Cloninger]

They are like the 1970 Reds. A lot of homegrown talent with unlimited potential. I vote Franceour for the Bernie Carbo type like player award.

[cincyinco]

Harang Battles..

I love count Chocula :p

[Gallen5862]

Thanks for update.

[DoogMinAmo]

What's even more amazing is that they are all productive.

While I don't doubt their W/L record, if being generous, productive does not reach far beyond half their lineup. Pitching, as with every other team, is their reason.

[OnBaseMachine]

Good grief, it takes Harang 20 minutes to throw a pitch.

[Gallen5862]

A tough inning by Harang but no runs given up.

[DoogMinAmo]

I was out of town for a week, what happened to the game thread in ORG?

[cincyinco]

All game threads will now be done in Live, since a majority of posting for gamethreads was done in ORG and not everyone can post there.

[Gallen5862]

The Administrators put all game threads on live.

[KronoRed]

Felipe Lopez JR?

[DoogMinAmo]

All game threads will now be done in Live, since a majority of posting for gamethreads was done in ORG and not everyone can post there.

thanks :thumbup:

[DoogMinAmo]

Felipe Lopez JR?

Never ever ever trust what you read online. :evil:

[KronoRed]

Never ever ever trust what you read online. :evil:
:laugh:

[Gallen5862]

Junior having a good atbat.

[cincyinco]

1, 2, 3, for davies.. K's Griffey..

Dunn leading off another inning.. sigh.

[smith288]

Im in a hotel just south of Kings Island and the hotel blacked out TBS....GRRR

[Gallen5862]

He strikes out after a long atbat.

[cincyinco]

Boo to blackouts!

[DoogMinAmo]

Im in a hotel just south of Kings Island and the hotel blacked out TBS....GRRR

Just why, may I ask, are you there? :mooner:

[KronoRed]

Im in a hotel just south of Kings Island and the hotel blacked out TBS....GRRR

Go to the game like a REAL FAN

;)

[cincyinco]

Boo to pausing for station identification!

[smith288]

5 hours at Kings island so catching the game with a 3 and a 5 yr old doesnt sounds like a whole lot of fun.

[DoogMinAmo]

Good grief, it takes Harang 20 minutes to throw a pitch.

It is very very very very hot outside.

[MartyFan]

I cannot listen to the game...from what I see on the net he looks to be in trouble already...37 pitches and only in the second inning.

[cincyinco]

It is very very very very hot outside.

Man, its nice and chilly and rainy here in Colorado!! :)

[cincyinco]

2 out, McCann on 3rd

[DoogMinAmo]

There is a 9mph wind out to left, and it is hot outside. Tonight might not be a pitching duel after all...

[Gallen5862]

Harang walks the pitcher.

[cincyinco]

Walks the pitcher.. ugh.

[Gallen5862]

Harang with a long inning but still no score.

[cincyinco]

Furcal grounds out to freel to end the inning. Out of a jam!

[Falls City Beer]

Now the Reds offense needs to make Davies work.

[flyer85]

btw, Hal told Marty that DanO would not deny the Jr trade. He just stated that all of the OFs are still here. Ken Williams didn't deny it either. Hal also said Nightengale insisted it was true when Hal talked to him.

hmmm.

[OnBaseMachine]

Dunn must have been looking for something else. He took two straight fastballs right down the pipe just above the knees. Should have crushed those.

[Gallen5862]

Thanks for the info flyer85. Thats interesting no denials.

[creek14]

Good grief, it takes Harang 20 minutes to throw a pitch.
Probably taking his time cause it's so hot.

Or cause he doesn't have good stuff tonight and he's trying to remember where he left it.

[OSURedLeg]

He FCB, how do you think Harang looks so far? :D I'd say pretty good because he's battling, but he's not going to keep gettin out of these jams if he keeps it up.

[westofyou]

Probably taking his time cause it's so hot.

98 degrees here.

No humidity though.

Good times...

[OnBaseMachine]

Probably taking his time cause it's so hot.

Good point. I completly forgot about the heat.

Meanwhile, Kearns is having a good atbat; finishes it off with a single.

[Gallen5862]

AK with a single up the middle.

[smith288]

By the way folks...if you want to needle me for not being at the game...why are you locals not??? Huh? Huh??? :nono: ;)

[creek14]

98 degrees here.

No humidity though.

Good times...
It's 73 here in the family room. Veggie dogs on the grill. Root beer cooling in the fridge.

[CincyRedsFan30]

Why would Bob Nightengale have all of this information that can't seem to be found by anyone else? It just doesn't make sense.

[BoydsOfSummer]

Was gonna go tonight. Decided on saturday instead.

[OnBaseMachine]

:( The guy that suffered a heart attack at the game last night died.

Jones retakes the homerun lead.

[Gallen5862]

Andrew Jones homerun. 1-0 Braves.

[KronoRed]

5 hours at Kings island so catching the game with a 3 and a 5 yr old doesnt sounds like a whole lot of fun.
Lollygagger! ;)

[PickOff]

DanO's quote simply said that he never talked to Griffey about a trade. Doesn't mean a deal wasn't negotiated though before Linder nixed it, and before DanO presented it to Griffey.

[Gallen5862]

Who had a heart attack last night?

[KronoRed]

By the way folks...if you want to needle me for not being at the game...why are you locals not??? Huh? Huh??? :nono: ;)
Cause we're lollygaggers too ;)

[KronoRed]

Who had a heart attack last night?
A fan near some RZers at the game..he was there with his grandson :(

[OnBaseMachine]

Who had a heart attack last night?

A fan in the stands. Here (http://www.redszone.com/forums/showpost.php?p=802788&postcount=366) is a post about it.

[OSURedLeg]

Harang needed only 7 pitches to get through that inning. If he can get through six with a quality start, I'll be happy. It just doesn't seem like he's got good stuff out there today.

[OnBaseMachine]

That strike three on EE was high.

[Gallen5862]

Thanks. Thats sad to hear.

[flyer85]

Why would Bob Nightengale have all of this information that can't seem to be found by anyone else? It just doesn't make sense. from the White Sox FO I would bet. Neither Williams or DanO would deny it.

[OnBaseMachine]

Somebody on here(can't remember who) has a sig that says, "Free Jeremiah Piepkorn." Well he will be pleased to know Piepkorn has hit two homeruns in two innings tonight.

[smith288]

What a terrible experience for his grandson.

[cincyinco]

Ugh.. 3-0 bad guys

[OnBaseMachine]

Bad night for Harang. Walked the pitcher, threw Jones a meatball with two outs and nobody on base with LaRoche on deck, and fails to backup home on a throw to the plate.

[writerdan33]

Anybody catch the email addy for the TBS guys?

[CincyRedsFan30]

from the White Sox FO I would bet. Neither Williams or DanO would deny it.

Nightengale is the only one who has said it's true though. I haven't heard that anywhere else.

[flyer85]

Nightengale is the only one who has said it's true though. I haven't heard that anywhere else.Hal said he flat out asked Dano point blank if he had a deal with the White Sox. DanO's reply was "all the OFs are still here". There is no doubt that there was some kind of a deal in place.

[Falls City Beer]

Davies seems to have the problem Haren used to have: cruise through 4-5 innings and blow up in the sixth. We can only hope that Davies loses steam in this humidity (though that's a pretty bad mixed metaphor when you think about it: "steam" and "humidity." Ugh.)

[cincyinco]

Arg, Griff hits one just foul down the line..

[CincyRedsFan30]

Hal said he flat out asked Dano point blank if he had a deal with the White Sox. DanO's reply was "all the OFs are still here". There is no doubt that there was some kind of a deal in place.

Something changed since all of today's papers then, which all said the deal was false: "Period".

That must have been speculation on the part of all of the writers.

[CincyRedsFan30]

Casey?

[cincyinco]

Casey finally flashing some power! 2 run bomb!


THANKS TO AN ADAM DUNN WALK.

THIS IS WHY WALKS ARE GOOD. GETTING ON BASE = SCORING RUNS

[westofyou]

Soft walk allows Casey to get an at bat and he turns on the first pitch 3-2 Braves.

[OnBaseMachine]

Griff just missed a homerun.

Dunn was angry at himself for missing that 3-1 pitch. Belt high fastball out over the plate and he fouled it off. Next pitches misses in, ball four.

Casey homerun, 2-1 Reds!

[Matt700wlw]

:lol: :casey:

[SteelSD]

Walks are good.

Home Runs are good.

Outs are bad.

Good job, Case. :)

[cincyinco]

Hey guys, I know this is slighty off topic.. but would you do this trade in a SIM league?

I'm giving up: Chad Billingsley and Dustin Nippert
for
Joel Pieniero and Kyle Davies.. heh.

Oh, to view my current Reds squad go to http://www.geocities.com/djetan303/ibcreds.html

[DoogMinAmo]

Hopefully Harang can relax now, the offense isn't totally asleep.

[Falls City Beer]

Hopefully Harang can relax now, the offense isn't totally asleep.

No offense is asleep in 93 degree weather.

[flyer85]

DanO quotes in the DDN


"My reaction is short and sweet," said O'Brien. "Throughout July we had no conversations with Griffey or his agent about his 10-and-5 statusdoesn't address the trade

Neither Jr or his agent was asked about waiving his no-trade rights. However, nothing in there is a denial that a trade to send Jr to the White Sox was worked out between the GMs.

The question Hal addresses with Marty on the radio was asked today.

[CincyRedsFan30]

This ump. at home tonight is very inconsistent, IMO. He can't decide where his zone is at.

[flyer85]

If someone gets on I would PH for Harang

[DoogMinAmo]

If someone gets on I would PH for Harang

I would let him go one more, then that is it. 89 pitches, and the bottom of the order due up.

[Falls City Beer]

If someone gets on I would PH for Harang

Yeah, but what if scuzz-stache Valentin rips a dinger?

[flyer85]

I would let him go one more, then that is it. 89 pitches, and the bottom of the order due up.the way Harang has thrown tonight, 89 is enough

[CincyRedsFan30]

Great AB by Valentin.

[flyer85]

scuzz-stache Valentin admit it ... you're jealous :KoolAid:

[paintmered]

Valentin leads off with a walk.

[DoogMinAmo]

An EBH by Eddie would be nice right here.

[paintmered]

Anybody want me to do some pbp?

[paintmered]

Back to back walks.

Valentin to second, EE on first.

[Falls City Beer]

admit it ... you're jealous :KoolAid:

No doubt. I shaved my beard once to go to a wedding but left the stache. My wife threatened to leave me if I didn't shave it. I looked like "Malone"-era Burt Reynolds. I would have stayed with me.

[flyer85]

Harang is a terrible bunter

[DoogMinAmo]

I never played baseball beyond early little league. Is a bunt really that difficult?

[Ben from Cincy]

George Grande mentioned the possiblity of Linder sharing his part of the ownership this offseason. Does he know something we don't? Probably not and he was just thinking aloud, but its a nice thought.

[flyer85]

I never played baseball beyond early little league. Is a bunt really that difficult?for most people, making contact with anything coming at you at 90 mph is not easy. However, these guys get paid to do it. It's all about practice

[flyer85]

George Grande mentioned the possiblity of Linder sharing his part of the ownership this offseason. Does he know something we don't? Probably not and he was just thinking aloud, but its a nice thought.some of the minority shares are for sale

[Ben from Cincy]

I meant to put selling not sharing.

[Caveat Emperor]

I'm calling Shennanigans on Marty Brennaman. He stated that the Reds "inability to play little ball" led them to squander a run-scoring opportunity.

Bull. Even if Harang had gotten a bunt down, Freel and Lopez still couldn't get a base hit to drive runs in. A bunt in that situation was completely irrelevant, given the way the subsequent ABs worked.

[DoogMinAmo]

Davies now with 87 pitches to Harang's 89. Both have to be tired, I can;t see either one going longer than 6, so if the Reds don't want to lose, their chances fade fast after the 6th.

[flyer85]

shoulda PH for Harang ... just sayin

[flyer85]

I'm calling Shennanigans on Marty Brennaman. He stated that the Reds "inability to play little ball" led them to squander a run-scoring opportunity.

Bull. Even if Harang had gotten a bunt down, Freel and Lopez still couldn't get a base hit to drive runs in. A bunt in that situation was completely irrelevant, given the way the subsequent ABs worked.come on ... don't let facts get in the way of a good argument

[DoogMinAmo]

Back to back first pitch hitting. This seems to happen a lot with Valentin behind the plate. Maybe he has been figured out.

[KronoRed]

Trade Casey to a team that needs power ;)

[flyer85]

Does Davies come back out?

[KearnsyEars]

Dunn is gonna go deep and tie this one up next time he comes up, and tie Andruw Jones for the lead in ML HR again.

[LoganBuck]

George Grande: "Casey just produces runs."

[TheBurn]

These guys are playin' fun, exciting ball right now.

[KronoRed]

Dunn with a productive out

[KronoRed]

Glad to see Casey hot..but he should NOT reclaim the 3 spot, the JR/Dunn 3-4 is working well.

[DoogMinAmo]

Who is this Casey, and where did he get his slugging from? OPSing 1.700 for August, as his season total creeps back up towards .800. Anyone else think the trade talk got to his head?

[TheBurn]

AK to the track deep center!

[FlyingPig]

George Grande: "Casey just produces runs."

Well, he's produced the biggest part of them tonight..

[flyer85]

Dunn with a productive outBF must be proud

[Fullboat]

Ears has got to have one of the ugliest swings.

[NJReds]

BF must be proud

Actually he's posting on the mlb.com board that if the Reds had less HR/K guys, the pitching would be better... :help:

[KronoRed]

Actually he's posting on the mlb.com board that if the Reds had less HR/K guys, the pitching would be better... :help:

.....

WHAT?

:confused:

[LoganBuck]

Well, he's produced the biggest part of them tonight..

Just keeping things in perspective.

[flyer85]

Actually he's posting on the mlb.com board that if the Reds had less HR/K guys, the pitching would be better... :help:must be some interesting "logic" to get there

[NJReds]

I really don't bother anymore. It's not worth the effort. Now that Dunn is on a hot streak...EE is his new whipping boy. He loathes the Randa trade.

[TheBurn]

Valentin walks, EE up, pitching change!

[DoogMinAmo]

Eddie E with a chance to be the hero.

[flyer85]

.EE is his new whipping boy. He loathes the Randa trade.must be furballs bastard stepchild

[DoogMinAmo]

Could this be Valentin's career year? Can he repeat numbers close to these next year? If so, I am afraid Larue might now cost too much.

[Raisor]

Actually he's posting on the mlb.com board that if the Reds had less HR/K guys, the pitching would be better... :help:


I really really do think that BF/PR14 is actually our very own Steel pulling our leg since last november.

Ok Steel, you got us. You can admit it now.
:thumbup:

[KronoRed]

In 2 years Randa will be retired and EE will be hitting better then Randa did this year

[TheBurn]

EE grounds to SS

[LoganBuck]

I remember BF's thread about why trading Randa was a bad idea. Good Times.

[Falls City Beer]

In 2 years Randa will be retired and EE will be hitting better then Randa did this year

I hope you're right. Not many 3rd basemen hit as well as Randa did the first half of this year. Not that I'm saying we should have kept Randa, mind you.

[KronoRed]

I hope you're right. Not many 3rd basemen hit as well as Randa did the first half of this year.

If I'm wrong nobody will remember this thread ;)

[DoogMinAmo]

If Standridge can go 2, and give up 1 run or less, I will be happy.

EDIT: Pitcher's spot due up first in the bottom half, cmon Jason, give us a goose egg!

[Fullboat]

Its up to our vaunted bullpen

[Falls City Beer]

If Standridge can go 2, and give up 1 run or less, I will be happy.

I'll take 1 inning and no runs given up and be happy.

[Gallen5862]

Standridge looking good so far.

[Gainesville Red]

Andruw Jone's long at bat's making me nervous.

[flyer85]

standridge keeps hanging and AJ fouls en back

[Gainesville Red]

never mind

[Gallen5862]

Standridge two k's so far.

[Gallen5862]

a 1 2 3 inning for Standridge. good job. :thumbup: :clap:

[flyer85]

stupid of Olmedo to swing at the 2-0 pitch

[DoogMinAmo]

I'll take 1 inning and no runs given up and be happy.

Happy?

[flyer85]

that was low

[DoogMinAmo]

that was low

It is the floating strikezone known as the ghost of Greg Maddux.

[KronoRed]

We need some runs.

[flyer85]

that was stupid ... once you get ahead of Francoeur you don't have to throw a strike to get him out.

[CTA513]

hmmm... even though they are only down by 2, Id say this game is over.

Farnsworth in the 8th, Reitsma in the 9th.

[DoogMinAmo]

hmmm... even though they are only down by 2, Id say this game is over.

Farnsworth in the 8th, Reitsma in the 9th.

Heart of the order due up. It all depends on the bottom of the 8th.

[DoogMinAmo]

Shackelford recovered nicely after serving one up to Francoeur. 5-3 Braves heading to the bottom of 8, Junior, Dunn, Casey due up.

[flyer85]

I guessing a lefty in the 8th? Nope it's Farny

[paintmered]

Interestingly enough, Farnsworth used to fill that uniform.

:confused:

[flyer85]

I still think the big play of the game was not PHing for Harang in the 5th

[smith288]

Farnsworth no longer using steroids?

[flyer85]

that was a good 4-5 inches outside.

[Little Alex]

5-3 can be come back from

[Matt700wlw]

Who is this guy?

[Little Alex]

5-3 can be come back from

5-4 i mean :beerme:

[KronoRed]

Casey :clap:

[Raisor]

Skip Carrey, "I don't blame him [Dunn] for not swinging at that one"

Casey is juicing...or corking his bat, or something...

[Aronchis]

Somebody needs to give Casey a pee test.................. ;)

[KronoRed]

Casey is working on that trade value :D

[RedsMan3203]

Anyone Hear the "over rated" Chants in the background?

[Gallen5862]

Casey homerun. :party: :rockband:

[RFS62]

Ok, Casey's juicing.



































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[RedsMan3203]

Thanks Furcal.

[KronoRed]

That's the good stuff RFS

[RedsMan3203]

Come'on Kearns...


Dang it.

[Gallen5862]

To bad kearns couldn't score.

[BoydsOfSummer]

Nice rip Turtle...Rally!

[RedsMan3203]

Come'on Easy E

[Gallen5862]

I hope that didn't cost us.

[RFS62]

make him work, eddie

[RedsMan3203]

EdE grounds out to SS.

[RFS62]

Man, rookie mistake

[DoogMinAmo]

With Francoeur in right I would not have even sent Freel. So in the 9th, RA or WMP?

[smith288]

poop

[Gallen5862]

EE grounds out. :bang:

[KronoRed]

Gotta send up WMP in the 9th.

[OnBaseMachine]

Did anyone see that strike three call on Dunn? Geez. Ball was atleast six inches outside, maybe a little more. Strike three to Lopez in the 7th was down and off the plate.

These umps have been terrible this series.

[DoogMinAmo]

With any luck, the Reds wont have to face Jones again, and still win this game.

[listen up]

With Francoeur in right I would not have even sent Freel. So in the 9th, RA or WMP?

I think it will/should be WMP. He's been seeing more pitches lately, he had a decent hit streak going (not sure if he's still got it), and he can tie this game up with a check swing. But if he strikes out then I'm going to take this back and say Aurilia.

[RedsMan3203]

Jones is up. :(

[flyer85]

Why is it that Weathers is not replaceable?

[DoogMinAmo]

Weathers getting squeezed by the ump. This is just unfair. Jones doesn't need any help.

[Gainesville Red]

He'll get better.

[reds44]

Edwin dang it

[flyer85]

Weathers getting squeezed by the ump. This is just unfair. Jones doesn't need any help.especially with the pitches the bum rang up Lopez and Dunn on.

[DoogMinAmo]

EdE costs the Reds another win :(

youth movements can hurt at times.

[CTA513]

theres your game.

[Gallen5862]

A botched dp led to a run.

[Aronchis]

2nd game in a row Weathers has pitched like crap.

[reds44]

How many times do you see it, the Reds have a chance to tie the game, but dont and then the other team comes and gets a run. That run hurt.

[Heath]

Thanks for the Jeremiah Piepkorn update - :thumbup:

I was standing in the cool mist zone when they brought the guy out on the stretcher - He looked in bad shape. It was really hot there last night. Prayers to his family

[reds44]

So did that one

[RFS62]

Dunn was so out of position on that throw. He does that little move way too much. I don't think he could have got him, but you have to square up and crow hop.

[listen up]

EE's play hurt but it'd be nice if Weathers could get someone out.

[Gainesville Red]

That just might do it. Weather's hasn't been as solid last couple of nights.

[KronoRed]

We suck.

[Matt700wlw]

So in the 9th, RA or WMP?

Rich will purposely do poorly due to unhappiness...

[KronoRed]

Dunn was so out of position on that throw. He does that little move way too much. I don't think he could have got him, but you have to square up and crow hop.

He'd be a good 1st baseman.

[flyer85]

love that pitching

[DoogMinAmo]

I think Dunn's refusal to be a 1st baseman has to do with his desire for Casey to stay. If Casey was gone, I bet he would do it.

[KronoRed]

Cruz up.

[listen up]

And Grande sums up the inning with the WAY overused "And they get the final out but the damage is done." This line just pisses me off to no end but he uses every single inning that the other team scores in every single game for the entire season. Let's be a little creative George.

[Raisor]

We suck.

speak for yourself.

I, most definatly, do not suck.

:cool:

[KronoRed]

Casey will win this game with a grand slam.

[KronoRed]

speak for yourself.

I, most definatly, do not suck.

:cool:

Really?

One of us has seen Alexander and it ain't me

;)

[Gallen5862]

A great play by Freel.

[Raisor]

Really?

One of us has seen Alexander and it ain't me

;)


well, phtphtphtphtphtpht

[KronoRed]

Aww jeez Felipe.

[CTA513]

Grand Slam!!!!



























...........Abreu hit a Grand Slam earlier today!

;)

[Gallen5862]

The Braves win.

[DoogMinAmo]

I feel for you Raisor, I somehow was fooled into seeing it, and it was definitely not worth it.

[CTA513]

Reds lose, now its on to sweep the Marlins!

[striker42]

Braves fan here. Good series. The Reds are much improved over what we saw earlier this year. Now to business. We Braves fans are ga-ga over Jeff Francoeur. I would like to see what you Reds fans think of him. I want to see a more objective opinion of the new Golden Boy of the Braves. Thanks and again, good series.

[RFS62]

He's a stud.

[SteelSD]

Braves fan here. Good series. The Reds are much improved over what we saw earlier this year. Now to business. We Braves fans are ga-ga over Jeff Francoeur. I would like to see what you Reds fans think of him. I want to see a more objective opinion of the new Golden Boy of the Braves. Thanks and again, good series.

Francoeur- Quick bat. Excellent range. Cannon arm.

Needs to develop a discipline skill set pronto or he's going to need to hit .330 to be a really good offensive player. Fine player though.

[westofyou]

Francoeur- Quick bat. Excellent range. Cannon arm.

Needs to develop a discipline skill set pronto or he's going to need to hit .330 to be a really good offensive player. Fine player though.

What he said, getting some good rakes currently, sometime those will be outs though.

[striker42]

The thing is that Francoeur can reach anything and hit it with authority. I saw him hit a pitch 3 inches off the ground about 400 feet. He also will go the other way when pitched away. He will need to improve the plate dicipline but he doesn't have to be a walk machine because he can reach so many balls and hit them with authority.

[SteelSD]

The thing is that Francoeur can reach anything and hit it with authority. I saw him hit a pitch 3 inches off the ground about 400 feet. He also will go the other way when pitched away. He will need to improve the plate dicipline but he doesn't have to be a walk machine because he can reach so many balls and hit them with authority.

He doesn't have to be a walk machine. The fact that he doesn't really seem to know what they are limits his projectible upside at this point, however.

You're seeing the very very best of Francoeur right now. But that's not the real Jeff Francoeur just as the very very best short-term production from any player isn't who that player really is.

And I'll just chalk up the "...Francoeur can reach anything and hit it with authority" comment to a Braves fan being giddy about having a RF who's actually doing something with the bat (finally) this season. His minor league results haven't demonstrated that he has some unique uncanny ability to do that to the extent you suggest.

Again, fine player, but when the league gets the "book" on him, he projects to have a bit of difficulty adjusting because it doesn't appear that he's ever had a real good grasp on the whole balls and strikes thing.

[Big Klu]

Just got back from tonight's game. Some observations:

1) Harang looked gassed early. I would have pinch-hit for him after Valentin and Encarnacion led off with back-to-back walks.

2) Weathers also looked gassed. He didn't have much last night, and he didn't have much tonight, either.

3) Standridge and Shackelford looked pretty good. Shack made a mistake to the first batter he faced, but then he settled down after the homer.

4) Casey had a heck of a game!

5) I love Club 4192! Nothing like having an air-conditioned club/bar to go to when it's oppressively hot!


Updated Reds HR list:

Reds All-Time Home Run Leaders
1. Johnny Bench - 389
2. Frank Robinson - 324
3. Tony Perez - 287
4. Ted Kluszewski - 251
5. George Foster - 244
6. Eric Davis - 203
7. Barry Larkin - 198
8. Vada Pinson - 186
9. Wally Post - 172
10. Gus Bell - 160
11. Joe Morgan - 152
11. Pete Rose - 152
13. Adam Dunn - 150
14. Lee May - 147
15. Dan Driessen - 133
16. Ken Griffey, Jr. - 126
17. Reggie Sanders - 125
18. Ernie Lombardi - 120
19. Sean Casey - 116
20. Frank McCormick - 110
21. Dave Parker - 107
22. Chris Sabo - 104
23. Dave Concepcion - 101
24. Gordy Coleman - 98
25. Paul O'Neill - 96

[Tony Cloninger]

He needs to be pitched inside and backed off the plate more often....he is hacking at everything and hitting it. Weathers was dumb enough to give him something on 0-2....when he should have bounced it or moved him off the plate.

He basically looks like AK did during 2002 and early 2003.

[oneupper]

AK? no...Kearns always took pitches.

Think more like Manny Sanguillen.

[Tony Cloninger]

Forgot to say....AK like minus the walks/taking pitches.

How about more like a healthy Sixto Lezcano, when he was with MIL?