8-7 vs Fish -- No Dunn OR Griffey

[Matt700wlw]

Starting Lineups
No. Florida Cincinnati
1 Juan Pierre, CF Ryan Freel, CF
2 Luis Castillo, 2B Felipe Lopez, SS
3 Jeff Conine, 1B Sean Casey, 1B
4 Miguel Cabrera, LF Austin Kearns, RF
5 Mike Lowell, 3B Wily Mo Pena, LF
6 Chris Aguila, RF Rich Aurilia, 2B
7 Alex Gonzalez, SS Jason LaRue, C
8 Matt Treanor, C Edwin Encarnacion, 3B
9 Dontrelle Willis, P Ramon Ortiz, P

[CTA513]

The lineup of the future... ;)

[dsmith421]

With Willis pitching, we started out with about a 15% chance of winning. Thanks to these 'shrewd' managing moves--why not bench your two best players?--I'd say that's closer to 1% now. Glad I decided not to go....

[gitrdunn44]

Hey look at the brightside. We have better pinch-hitters :D .

[westofyou]

That's a strat lineup for Narron, stacked with his best LH for LH in the middle.

[FlyingPig]

Dunn deserves a day off...

[CTA513]

Pierre bunt single.

[CTA513]

Pierre goes from 1st to 3rd on throwing error by Ortiz.

[FlyingPig]

Just think if Dunn and Griff had both been out of the lineup LAST Sunday..

this place would have imploded..

:laugh:

[CTA513]

Castillo grounds out to the pitcher. 1 out.

[Casey_21]

The lineup of the future... ;)

ARGGGGGH!!!! PLEASE don't say that!! :scared:
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:dunn: ' Griff aint got nuttin' on me' ;)

:pena: = Swiss Cheese :D

:kearns: 'Food, glorious Food...'

[Matt700wlw]

I'm about done with Ramon Ortiz

[CTA513]

Conine singles, 1 run scores.

1-0 Marlins.

Ortiz = Staff Ace

[FlyingPig]

prediction: Ortiz will be released after today's game...

:pray:

[CTA513]

prediction: Ortiz will be released after today's game...

:pray:

released? he'll be signed to a 3 year extention.

[Casey_21]

Man, oh man.... didn't realize Ortiz was pitching... :cry:

[CTA513]

Cabrera grounds in to a double play. 3 outs.

[FlyingPig]

released? he'll be signed to a 3 year extention.
:all_cohol

[CTA513]

Freel walks.

[Casey_21]

By the way, guys... Your the only play-by-play action I get. Not many Reds fans here in England. :) You guys have been the only Reds contact I have had since they started playing this year. I just wanted to say thanks for all the P-B-P, and keeping me in tuned and up to date with my Reds!! Kudos, my friends.. :clap: :beerme:

[CTA513]

Lopez grounds in to a double play. 2 outs.

:/

[CTA513]

Casey grounds out. 3 outs.

1-0 Marlins after 1 inning.

[CTA513]

Lowell flies out. 1 out.

[dsmith421]

Casey21: where in England?

[CTA513]

Aguila grounds out. 2 outs.

[CTA513]

Gonzalez singles.

[westofyou]

Speaking about Sunday lineups. On the heels of 2 losses.


T. Graffanino 2b
E. Renteria ss
D. Ortiz dh
M. Ramirez lf
K. Millar rf
R. Petagine 1b
D. Mirabelli c
A. Cora 3b
G. Kapler cf

[Casey_21]

Casey21: where in England?

Right on the outskirts of London... called Ickenham... Man, these guys will make you HATE Soccer/Football. Lol..

[CTA513]

The Reds had Gonzalez in a run down and Casey dropped the ball and Gonzalez is able to get to 2nd.

[Gallen5862]

I can't get the internet feeds to work. Is anyone else having trouble?

[CTA513]

Treanor strikes out. 3 outs.

[westofyou]

John Fay is as interesting as manilla envelope and not half as sharp.

[CTA513]

Kearns pops out. 1 out.

[CTA513]

Pena strikes out. 2 outs.

[RFS62]

Marty doing his trivia thing, since he's apparently bored with baseball.

When he says "stay with me now" to Steve in a condescending tone, I laugh out loud, as if anyone would have any trouble keeping up with this tired little act.

[CTA513]

Aurilia singles.

[westofyou]

Marty doing his trivia thing, since he's apparently bored with baseball.

When he says "stay with me now" to Steve in a condescending tone, I laugh out loud, as if anyone would have any trouble keeping up with this tired little act.

Do the pitchers still wind up and throw more than 2 or 3 pitches in an at bat in Marty's world?

BTW It's Kotter.

[Casey_21]

Uhgggg.... Not Rich.... Oh well, I'll take it.

[CTA513]

Larue flies out. 3 outs.

1-0 Marlins after 2 innings.

[RFS62]

I see we've got our prevent offense in there today.

[Heath]

Remember fans, tonight is Jimmy Serrano's make-or-break night in Louisville - plenty of seats still are available in Louisville for tonights game against Norfolk.

:thumbup:

[CTA513]

Willis singles.

[CTA513]

Pierre grounds into a force at 2nd. 1 out.

[Matt700wlw]

Marty doing his trivia thing, since he's apparently bored with baseball.

When he says "stay with me now" to Steve in a condescending tone, I laugh out loud, as if anyone would have any trouble keeping up with this tired little act.

I think you listen just to complain about something. You really need to get over the fact that yes, sometimes they talk about something other than baseball.

[CTA513]

Ortiz makes another throwing error and Pierre goes to 2nd.

[RFS62]

I think you listen just to complain about something. You really need to get over the fact that yes, sometimes they talk about something other than baseball.


Not really. I'm listening today because it's not on Extra Innings.

Don't take it personally, Matt. Unless you're writing that stuff.

[CTA513]

Castillo singles, Pierre to 3rd.

[Falls City Beer]

Ortiz is a country-fried turd.

[Matt700wlw]

Not really. I'm listening today because it's not on Extra Innings.

Don't take it personally, Matt. Unless you're writing that stuff.

I'm not writing it. Maybe someday ;)

I don't take it personally, I just don't need to see in every game thread how much you despise him, which is fine if you do.

[CTA513]

Conine with a sac fly. 2 outs.

2-0 Marlins

[CTA513]

Castillo steals 2nd.

[Casey_21]

Ortiz is a country-fried turd.

With corn..

[CTA513]

Cabrera strikes out. 3 outs.

[Falls City Beer]

With corn..

...and peanuts, apparently.

[RFS62]

I don't despise him, and I'm not in the game threads that often, and I watch games whenever possible, not listen.

But you're right, I do dog him when I hear about tonights titanic struggle, or the quintisential ladies man, or Mandingo, or "stay with me now", or his golf game, or tomatoes, or Elvis. That stuff has a way of grating on me.

That's just not getting it done, partner.

[CTA513]

Encarnacion walks.

[CTA513]

Ortiz bunts Encarnacion to 2nd. 1 out.

[CTA513]

Encarnacion out at 3rd on a Freel ground ball. 2 outs.

[CTA513]

Lopez flies out. 3 outs.

2-0 Marlins after 3 innings.

[WVRedsFan]

Ortiz bunts Encarnacion to 2nd. 1 out.

And EdE screws up. Rookie mistake. Of course, with this lineup and with the slumps Freel and Lopez are in, it really doesn't make any difference anyway.

I know players need rest, but why do you leave you two best players on the bench just because it's Sunday? Why against a tough pitcher where, just maybe, these "stars" just might make the difference? I really don't understand the "Sunday lineup" phenominon at all.

[Casey_21]

So much for small ball... Oh well... We got Dunn and Griff.... Oppps.. forgot. Aurillia had to play... :angry:

[Falls City Beer]

I don't despise him, and I'm not in the game threads that often, and I watch games whenever possible, not listen.

But you're right, I do dog him when I hear about tonights titanic struggle, or the quintisential ladies man, or Mandingo, or "stay with me now", or his golf game, or tomatoes, or Elvis. That stuff has a way of grating on me.

That's just not getting it done, partner.

I haven't listened to Marty in a while, but I actually kind of like that goofball stuff...it's like listening to a weird, verbally incontinent uncle or something. Kind of soothing and ridiculous all at the same time.

[CTA513]

Lowell flies out. 1 out.

[Puffy]

I don't take it personally, I just don't need to see in every game thread how much you despise him, which is fine if you do.

You mean, kinda like you whenever Peter Gammons is mentioned and you feel the need to trash him??

[Matt700wlw]

I haven't listened to Marty in a while, but I actually kind of like that goofball stuff...it's like listening to a weird, verbally incontinent uncle or something. Kind of soothing and ridiculous all at the same time.

It helps pass the time of the good ol' fashioned butt whippings

[CTA513]

Aguila grounds out. 2 outs.

[Casey_21]

I haven't listened to Marty in a while, but I actually kind of like that goofball stuff...it's like listening to a weird, verbally incontinent uncle or something. Kind of soothing and ridiculous all at the same time.

Lol... I feel the same way, brother.

[CTA513]

Gonzalez bunts, thrown out at 1st. 3 outs.

[Matt700wlw]

You mean, kinda like you whenever Peter Gammons is mentioned and you feel the need to trash him??

Only when it's deserving :evil:

[Falls City Beer]

It helps pass the time of the good ol' fashioned butt whippings

And being down 2-0 against a cruising D. Willis without Dunn and Griffey qualifies as a butt-whippin'.

[RFS62]

I haven't listened to Marty in a while, but I actually kind of like that goofball stuff...it's like listening to a weird, verbally incontinent uncle or something. Kind of soothing and ridiculous all at the same time.


Dude, if I need that, I'll talk to myself.

[Puffy]

By the way, this is the third straight Sunday Griffey has been sat. And no, I am not a fan of sitting Griffey down once a week.

[CTA513]

Ortiz wasnt charged with those 2 runs because of the errors.... now his ERA is at 6.06

[Matt700wlw]

Dude, if I need that, I'll talk to myself.

Then people will think you're the weird one...

[Puffy]

Dude, if I need that, I'll talk to myself.

More. You mean, you'll talk to yourself more, Mr. Paranoid.

[creek14]

I haven't listened to Marty in a while, but I actually kind of like that goofball stuff...it's like listening to a weird, verbally incontinent uncle or something. Kind of soothing and ridiculous all at the same time.
Therein lies the problem. You haven't listened in a while. When you listen day in and day out it gets old. Real old. Like as old as me on my next birthday.

[CTA513]

Casey flies out. 1 out.

[CTA513]

Kearns lines out. 2 outs.

[RFS62]

Then people will think you're the weird one...


That was the point.

:p:

[CTA513]

Pena singles.

[CTA513]

Aurilia grounds out. 3 outs.

2-0 Marlins after 4 innings.

[Falls City Beer]

Therein lies the problem. You haven't listened in a while. When you listen day in and day out it gets old. Real old. Like as old as me on my next birthday.

You're probably right. It's probably a matter of perspective. It's actually been a a couple of years since I listened to the guy.

But I don't know--there's so little uniqueness and quirkiness in today's announcing that doesn't seem forced in some way or over the top. Marty's rube act is kind of refreshing in a weird way. It's hard for me to describe.

Besides, anyone cool enough to do those old Kroger ads where he and Joe grab their pens and say "Autograph time!" is pretty awesome in my book.

[DoogMinAmo]

As far as D-Train cruising, through 4: Ortiz 58 pitches, 2 unearned runs. Willis 61 pitches.

Seems like the pitching duel the other thread was envisioning. :evil:

[CTA513]

Treanor singles.

[CTA513]

Willis grounds into a double play. 2 outs.

[Falls City Beer]

But you want to know what gets old?

Ortiz.

And you want to know what never gets old?

Saying Ortiz gets old.

[CTA513]

Pierre singles.

[CTA513]

Ortiz makes another throwing error and Pierre goes from 1st to 3rd.

[Gallen5862]

Thanks for the updates. I can't get any of the internet feeds to work. Is anyone else having that trouble?

[Matt700wlw]

Ramon Ortiz needs to stop throwing the ball to first

[Falls City Beer]

Ramon Ortiz needs to stop throwing the ball to first

Ortiz gets old.

[DoogMinAmo]

That is four errors on the day. I think Ortiz just wants his ERA to drop, so he keeps trying to make all the runs unearned.

[CTA513]

Whats the most errors by the Reds in 1 game? the already have 4 today.

[Gainesville Red]

Getting hard to root for Ortiz. He's getting close to being Aurilia-esque.

[Falls City Beer]

Ortiz makes you long for Jimmy Anderson.

[Redlegs23]

Thanks for the updates. I can't get any of the internet feeds to work. Is anyone else having that trouble?

http://www.sportsline.com/mlb/gamecenter/live/MLB_20050807_FLA@CIN

This is working for me, but WKKI's internet feed isn't.

If you were talking about the radio feed I apologize.

[CTA513]

Castillo flies out. 3 outs.

[Gallen5862]

Thanks redslegs23.

[CTA513]

Larue singles.

[CTA513]

Encarnacion pops out. 1 out.

[jesusfan]

pinch hit please

[CTA513]

pinch hit please

You cant pinch hit for the staff ace. ;)

[jesusfan]

well... the sixth will be ugly... hope im wrong, but I predict ortiz gives up a 3 or 4 spot.

[CTA513]

Ortiz strikes out. 2 outs.

[DoogMinAmo]

well... the sixth will be ugly... hope im wrong, but I predict ortiz gives up a 3 or 4 spot.

Funny, cuz I am seeing a 1-2-3 6th.

[CTA513]

Freel grounds out. 3 outs.

2-0 Marlins after 5 innings.

[KronoRed]

Terrible lineup.

Go Reds

[DoogMinAmo]

6 innings is not the problem with Ortiz, I sincerely hope Narron takes him out before the seventh though. That is when it seems he runs out of gas, no matter how many pitches he has thrown.

[CTA513]

Conine grounds out. 1 out.

[jesusfan]

I hope your right... I'd love to see the reds take 2 of 3 from the marlins, and maybe make a run at .500...

[CTA513]

Cabrera grounds out. 2 outs.

[CTA513]

Lowell singles.

[jesusfan]

ortiz quietly creeps his era under 6... with a 5.96

[Cedric]

Most people I talk with love Marty. It's a certain subset that hates everything about the Reds, that hates Marty. Baseball is a sport, a game.

[CTA513]

Lowell steals 2nd.

[Kc61]

Terrible lineup.

Go Reds


If the right handed hitters would do something, this would be a good lineup against Willis. Pena has stopped hitting the long ball. Kearns' numbers are sub-Aurilia. (Funny how everyone loves Kearns, hates Aurilia, yet RA has better numbers accross the board.) Lopez is slumping now, particularly right handed. Freel is slumping. And Aurilia isn't doing much since since being out of the regular lineup.

I agree that it is a mistake to rest Griffey and Dunn against a lefty when the right handed hitters don't hit.

[CTA513]

Aguila singles to right, Lowell thrown out at home by Kearns. 3 outs.

[jesusfan]

Kearns with another assist from right field... nice play kearnsy!

[Gallen5862]

I finally got Wath to work.

[westofyou]

(Funny how everyone loves Kearns, hates Aurilia, yet RA has better numbers accross the board.)

Kearns since he came back

.303/.314/.545/.860

He's young, cheap and a better baseball player than Aurilia.

[CTA513]

Lopez grounds out. 1 out.

[Casey_21]

Thats just sad when the pitcher makes half the errors.. :help:

[jesusfan]

Lopez grounds out to Short..

[KronoRed]

He'll also be here next year when RA is not, play for the future.

[CTA513]

Casey grounds out. 2 outs.

[jesusfan]

Casey groundout to first, 2 out...

[Casey_21]

Kearns since he came back

.303/.314/.545/.860

He's young, cheap and a better baseball player than Aurilia.

Damn right WOY.. :thumbup: Not to mention his kick :mooner: arm.. GO COLONOL!!!

[CTA513]

Kearns strikes out. 3 outs.

2-0 Marlins after 6 innings.

[jesusfan]

kearns k's swinging

[Falls City Beer]

Frankly, outside of Dunn, the Reds offense has been a horror show these past two weeks.

Back down to earth they come. Trade value for guys like Pena and Kearns very low (and in the case of Kearns, maybe irreparably low).

Oh well, sure am glad we still have four outfielders.

[Kc61]

Kearns since he came back

.303/.314/.545/.860

He's young, cheap and a better baseball player than Aurilia.

Kearns this year. .238/.308/.416/.724. And his strikeouts to walks are 58 to 20, including his strikeout a few minutes ago.

[CTA513]

Gonzalez doubles.

[CTA513]

Treanor grounds out. 1 out.

[jesusfan]

ortiz still in... double by Gonzalez

[Falls City Beer]

Kearns this year. .238/.308/.416/.724. And his strikeouts to walks are 58 to 20, including his strikeout a few minutes ago.

I don't worry about strikeouts, but yeah, I think he's toast. But what's worse is, that the Reds could have gotten value for him.

Oh well.

[CTA513]

Willis grounds out, Gonzalez to 3rd. 2 outs.

[jesusfan]

willis ground out to casey, gonzo to third

[westofyou]

It's a certain subset that hates everything about the Reds, that hates Marty.

That's a pretty blanket statement.

Marty annoys me the Reds don't and I certainly don't hate either.

[jesusfan]

big at bat for ortiz

[westofyou]

Kearns this year. .238/.308/.416/.724. And his strikeouts to walks are 58 to 20, including his strikeout a few minutes ago.

Players strike out and I'm more interested in the Kearns that came back from Louisville than the one that got sent down.. Aurlia on the other hand interests me not at all.

[CTA513]

Pierre walks.

[DoogMinAmo]

Get Him Outta There.

[jesusfan]

BB for pierre

[jesusfan]

lets GO! big out, lets get it and stay in this game....

[jesusfan]

bring merker in

[CTA513]

Castillo grounds out. 3 outs.

[jesusfan]

Nice play!!

[jesusfan]

ERA. down to 5.91

[jesusfan]

5.89 now

[DoogMinAmo]

Is there some obscure rule in baseball where you can't win if the only runs scored are unearned? :(

I hope to God that Ortiz is done for the night.

[Kc61]

Players strike out and I'm more interested in the Kearns that came back from Louisville than the one that got sent down.. Aurlia on the other hand interests me not at all.

I'm interested in overall performance. Kearns hasn't done anything in two and a half years.

People want to focus on any good signs from Kearns because they like him and want him to succeed. But right now he is a below average offensive outfielder.

[jesusfan]

I just hope to God we put some runs on the board

[CTA513]

Pena flies out. 1 out.

[westofyou]

But right now he is a below average offensive outfielder.

And yet better than WMP. So what is one to do?

[jesusfan]

wily mo FO to center

[CTA513]

Aurilia grounds out. 2 outs.

[Falls City Beer]

Cgso

[jesusfan]

aurilia grounds out.. 2 down

[CTA513]

Cgso

Shut out maybe, but he wont have a complete game unless he throws about 130 pitches.

[CTA513]

Larue grounds out. 3 outs.

2-0 Marlins after 7 innings.

[DoogMinAmo]

Cgso

Willis is at 100+pitches now, I don't foresee both the complete game and the shutout happening.

[Casey_21]

I'm interested in overall performance. Kearns hasn't done anything in two and a half years.

People want to focus on any good signs from Kearns because they like him and want him to succeed. But right now he is a below average offensive outfielder.


A below average offensive outfielder is one thing Kearns has NEVER been.

[jesusfan]

larue grounds out... wow, what an offensive display today...

[KronoRed]

I thought Willis was slumping? ;)

[CTA513]

larue grounds out... wow, what an offensive display today...

Best offense in the NL.

:beerme:

[CTA513]

Standridge in to pitch the 8th.

[Gainesville Red]

I thought Willis was slumping? ;)

That's what you get for listening to the Baseball Toight crew. :thumbup:

[Kc61]

And yet better than WMP. So what is one to do?

I don't know if Kearns is better offensively than WMP, but WMP is not hitting either. I think pitchers have adjusted to WMP, not throwing him a lot of fastballs, taking advantage of his bad strike zone judgment. WMP has to learn to adjust or he will wash out.

WMP has the advantage of being younger. WMP's disadvantage is that he is a terrible fielder.

[DoogMinAmo]

Bright side: Ortiz Out.

Down Side: Standridge is due to have his bubble burst.

[jesusfan]

standridge in.. ortiz good performance... 7IP 10H 2R 0ER... However, errors were on him

[CTA513]

Conine singles.

[Gallen5862]

I hope Standridge continues to pitch well.

[Falls City Beer]

A below average offensive outfielder is one thing Kearns has NEVER been.

I'm as big a defender of Kearns as any, but I know when it's time for a reckoning, too. Kearns has been awful this year, unacceptably horrid. I really don't think the kid's going to rediscover his ability with the Reds if at all. It was time to cut bait with the kid on July 31, but the Reds hesitated like idiots.

[CTA513]

Cabrera grounds out, Conine to 2nd. 1 out.

[westofyou]

WMP has the advantage of being younger. WMP's disadvantage is that he is a terrible fielder. 17 months is not that big a gap as far as age, Kearns injuries are as much a career bender to him as WMP contract was/is to his.

[Aronchis]

I'm as big a defender of Kearns as any, but I know when it's time for a reckoning, too. Kearns has been awful this year, unacceptably horrid. I really don't think the kid's going to rediscover his ability with the Reds if at all. It was time to cut bait with the kid on July 31, but the Reds hesitated like idiots.

Nope, they didn't. Everything is on freeze with the ownership situation. I don't know why this board constantly doesn't get that. When things are on freeze, they are on freeze. DanO only has authority to trade 2 players. Do we understand now?

[CTA513]

Lowell flies out. 2 outs.

[kaldaniels]

I'm just sayin...Mike Lowell looks smaller to me this year.

[Falls City Beer]

Nope, they didn't. Everything is on freeze with the ownership situation. I don't know why this board constantly doesn't get that. When things are on freeze, they are on freeze. DanO only has authority to trade 2 players. Do we understand now?

I don't care a whit who's giving the orders to trade or not to trade--okay, in your scenario, then I blame Lindner for passing down the "no trade" edict. It's dumb for the immediate future of the franchise and the long-term future. It's just all around dumb to have a "trade freeze" when you've got inventory (Pena and Kearns) rotting on the shelves.

[westofyou]

The Theme from SWAT makes me want to roller skate... but that's just me.

[CTA513]

Aguila strikes out. 3 outs.

[jesusfan]

Standridge with a nice job...cmon reds..

[Casey_21]

I'm as big a defender of Kearns as any, but I know when it's time for a reckoning, too. Kearns has been awful this year, unacceptably horrid. I really don't think the kid's going to rediscover his ability with the Reds if at all. It was time to cut bait with the kid on July 31, but the Reds hesitated like idiots.

Ok... I agree that he ain't having a hot year... I still wouldn't trade him though. If we could wait for WMP, (whom is slumping horribly, yet again)surely we can wait for Kearns. I still don't see where he is a poor offensive outfielder... :confused:

[Falls City Beer]

Good lord, Narron put Dunn in. I want to see a ball leave the infield.

[Aronchis]

I don't care a whit who's giving the orders to trade or not to trade--okay, in your scenario, then I blame Lindner for passing down the "no trade" edict. It's dumb for the immediate future of the franchise and the long-term future. It's just all around dumb to have a "trade freeze."

Again, you miss the point. If Lindner does sell his shares this fall, O'brien is most likely fired as GM. Do you want a lameduck GM running the show? That is why Lindner put a freeze on trading for the most part besides other little nuggets.

Be rest assured, if Lindner stays, or when the new GM comes in, there will be some movement this winter. For a guy that already had little value like Kearns, this gives him a chance to rebuild it.

[DoogMinAmo]

I don't care a whit who's giving the orders to trade or not to trade--okay, in your scenario, then I blame Lindner for passing down the "no trade" edict. It's dumb for the immediate future of the franchise and the long-term future. It's just all around dumb to have a "trade freeze."

Not if Kearns and WMP bust out of the slump by years end, then their trade value is higher than July 31st.

Or maybe, just Maybe, the Reds FO did listen to offers, and they were crap, and decided against trading for the sake of it. The trade market was horrible this year, maybe teams decided to stand pat, and its not DanO, JA, CL, or anybody elses fault. Just an idea, so you don't get too angry or fed up when you don't know the entire situation. Heck, you may be right and I may be completely off, but settle down, neither of us know for sure.

[CTA513]

Encarnacion singles.

[CTA513]

Valentin pinch hitting for Standridge.

[jesusfan]

Edwin with a single TO THE OUTFIELD! AMAZING!

[DoogMinAmo]

Now why in God's name is Valentin PHing?

[jesusfan]

Cmon Porno mustache..

[gitrdunn44]

Why would Javier pinch hit instead of Griffey or Dunn? Come on Narron!

[gitrdunn44]

He bats .143 from the right side!

[DoogMinAmo]

A double would be so nice here.

[CTA513]

Valentin pops out. 1 out.

[jesusfan]

Valentin pops out...

[LvJ]

Why would Javier pinch hit instead of Griffey or Dunn? Come on Narron! :angry:

[dsmith421]

Valentin pops out. What an inexcusably dumb move by Narron.

[DoogMinAmo]

Did anyone else think that Javy swung at ball four there?

[Casey_21]

Atta' boy EdE!!! :beerme:

[CTA513]

Freel bunts, Encarnacion to 2nd. 2 outs.

[Falls City Beer]

Not if Kearns and WMP bust out of the slump by years end, then their trade value is higher than July 31st.


Maybe. But I put about as much stock in those two coming out of their "slumps" as I did D'Angelo Jimenez. His game went south and if you had two eyes you could see it. I think they're both toast (though Pena's a never-wuz, and Kearns a could have been); they had some value at the deadline (all you had to do was listen to all the glowing things other gms were saying viz Kearns), but if they suck through the end of the year, they're worthless (not below worthless, like Casey, but worthless in terms of bringing pitching in return).

[jesusfan]

wow we really needed a sac bunt there...

[KronoRed]

Was Swat the right answer?

[CTA513]

Lopez grounds out. 3 outs.

2-0 Marlins after 8 innings.

[jesusfan]

lopez grounds out....

[Casey_21]

Maybe. But I put about as much stock in those two coming out of their "slumps" as I did D'Angelo Jimenez. His game went south and if you had two eyes you could see it. I think they're both toast (though Pena's a never-wuz, and Kearns a could have been); they had some value at the deadline (all you had to do was listen to all the glowing things other gms were saying viz Kearns), but if they suck through the end of the year, they're worthless (not below worthless, like Casey, but worthless in terms of bringing pitching in return).

Ummm... Well I DO agree with the Pena bit...

[gitrdunn44]

Gosh dangit. First we have a horrible right handed hitter pinch hit, when 2 of our best offensive players are sitting on the bench. I don't think the sacrifice bunt was the best choice ever either. Hopefully Griffey or Dunn will pinch-hit for Kearns, Pena, or somebody in the 9th.

[CTA513]

Lopez is has 0-18 in the past 4 games.... Narron isnt given him a day off till wednesday.

Freel has also been crappy at the plate.

Im so glad they have Olmedo holding down the bench for them.

[Aronchis]

Both Freel and Lopez are as dead as a doornail.

[CTA513]

Gonzalez with an infield single.

[CTA513]

Treanor bunts, Gonzalez to 2nd. 1 out.

[DoogMinAmo]

I don't think it was a sac bunt, I think he was shooting for a hit. Freel knows he is struggling, he is trying to make things happen.

[RFS62]

Petagine just doubled in a run for the Red Sox

Oh Drew.....

[CTA513]

Lenny Harris pinch hitting for Willis.

Shackelford coming in to pitch.

[DoogMinAmo]

Shackelford, not Merker.

[Falls City Beer]

I don't think it was a sac bunt, I think he was shooting for a hit. Freel knows he is struggling, he is trying to make things happen.

You could say that about 6/8th of the lineup on a regular day, but on a day like today, you could say that about all 8 hitters.

[gitrdunn44]

Shack attack in.

[CTA513]

Easley grounds out. 2 outs.

[gitrdunn44]

Easley grounds out. The Marlins took out Harris and had him pinch hit.

[DoogMinAmo]

Ok, just 1 more AB to contain Pierre. I hope the Shack is up for it.

[gitrdunn44]

Can we get Pierre out? Come on Brian you can do it!

[westofyou]

Lopez is has 0-18 in the past 4 games.

He's lost RH at the moment and he's faced 3 LH starters in the past week

[CTA513]

Pierre grounds out. 3 outs.

[gitrdunn44]

Good job by Shackleford! Welcome Jones back to Cincy with some hits!

[DoogMinAmo]

Excellent job of pitching today. The unearned runs look like they will haunt. Cmon Reds, D-Train is gone.

[CTA513]

Good job by Shackleford! Welcome Jones back to Cincy with some hits!

Welcome him back with 3 strikeouts. :p:

[jesusfan]

lets rough todd jones up....

[CTA513]

Casey flies out. 1 out.

[gitrdunn44]

1 out.

[CTA513]

Kearns flies out. 2 outs.

[KronoRed]

I'd PH for Kearns

[CTA513]

Dunn pinch hitting for Pena.

[CTA513]

Griffey in the on deck circle to pinch hit for Aurilia.

[gitrdunn44]

Come on Dunn!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[gitrdunn44]

2 strikes I smell trouble.

[RBA]

Griffey in the on deck circle to pinch hit for Aurilia.

Aurilia must be steaming. :)

[CTA513]

Dunn strikes out. 3 outs.

and this one belongs to the Marlins.

[Falls City Beer]

What did we get in return for Jones? :p:

[CTA513]

What did we get in return for Jones? :p:

We got to keep Don Gullett.

:beerme:

[RFS62]

I blame Bob Boone.

And Marty.


:p:

[Gallen5862]

Can we trade Ra for Todd Jones? :)

[RBA]

I blame Bob Boone.

And Marty.


:p:


And Jack McKeon.

[DoogMinAmo]

Hudson 7.88, Milton 6.75, and now Ortiz with 5.89

They are the only ERA anomolies on a pitching staff that has seemed to recover, and they seems to be gettign less and less horrible as time goes on. Go figure that the pitching has now shown up, so the offense decided to take a nap.

[Casey_21]

Wow... couldn't even score a lousey run.... Smooth move for keeping out The Kid and July's Man Of The Month :bang: :bang: :angry:

[Falls City Beer]

Hudson 7.88, Milton 6.75, and now Ortiz with 5.89

They are the only ERA anomolies on a pitching staff that has seemed to recover, and they seems to be gettign less and less horrible as time goes on. Go figure that the pitching has now shown up, so the offense decided to take a nap.

I'll cut the offense some slack--they've been chugging pretty much all season long. A dip was bound to happen.

[WVRedsFan]

Ah, Sundays. Best players sit, pitcher is his own worst enemy and the "best offense in the league" does what it does without the 140 RBI's and 50+ HR's out of the lineup. Very little.

The brilliance of Reds management is without question.

Sorry, this is just so frustrating.

[Heath]

Therein lies the problem. You haven't listened in a while. When you listen day in and day out it gets old. Real old. Like as old as me on my next birthday.

I'm older than 29.......;) (at least that seems to be the proverbial age that ladies choose)

There was a ballgame today??? :confused: I figured Dunn & Griffey got sent down.... :bang:

[jnwohio]

I blame Bob Boone.

:p:

Amen!
Bob BooneDog was notorious for his Sunday afternoon "B" line ups.

My exact thought when I heard the starting line up was that Boone must have called it in for Niarron.