8/28 Game Thread - Reds vs. Pirates

[Reds Fanatic]

Here are the lineups


Starting Lineups
No. Cincinnati Pittsburgh
1 Felipe Lopez, SS Freddy Sanchez, 2B
2 Jason LaRue, C Rob Mackowiak, CF
3 Ken Griffey Jr., CF Jason Bay, LF
4 Adam Dunn, LF Craig Wilson, RF
5 Sean Casey, 1B Brad Eldred, 1B
6 Austin Kearns, RF Ty Wigginton, 3B
7 Edwin Encarnacion, 3B Jack Wilson, SS
8 Ray Olmedo, 2B Humberto Cota, C
9 Luke Hudson, P Kip Wells, P

[Matt700wlw]

No rain in the forecast or on the radar.

Very nice sight!

[Elam]

LaRue went 3 for 5 last time, with a homer and a double, he was in the 2 slot against the Cubs.

[pedro]

Starting Lineups
No. Cincinnati
1 Felipe Lopez, SS
2 Jason LaRue, C
3 Ken Griffey Jr.,
4 Adam Dunn, LF
5 Sean Casey,
6 Austin Kearns,
7 Edwin Encarnacion,
8 Ray Olmedo, 2B
9 Luke Hudson,

No.Pittsburgh
1 Freddy Sanchez, 2B
2 Rob Mackowiak, CF
3 Jason Bay, LF
4 Craig Wilson, RF
5 Brad Eldred, 1B
6 Ty Wigginton, 3B
7 Jack Wilson, SS
8 Humberto Cota, C
9 Kip Wells, P

[RedFanAlways1966]

From the useless stats file...

* The REDS are 10-10 on Sundays.
* The REDS are 4-6 on Sunday games after a Saturday win.

[Hoosier Red]

I know somebody posted this a few weeks ago, but how nice is it to see Jr. playing on Sunday afternoons.
The last few years it wasn't even the injuries that got to me so much, but it was how scared Miley and Boone were to play Jr. too much lest he might get hurt.

This sure beats the "Sunday Special" lineups Boone used to throw out there.

[Matt700wlw]

I'm actually kind of surprised he's playing today after the loooooong night yesterday.

Good to see!

[Heath]

Yeah, but expect someone else in CF tomorrow - the 12:35 "get-away" day....

[RedFanAlways1966]

Luke Hudson in the month of August:

* 4 GS, 23.2 IP, 17 H, 16 K, 10 BB, 11 ER, 4 HRA.
* 3-1 record, 4.18 ERA, 1.14 WHIP.
> Lowest WHIP for a REDS starter this month (just imagine if the walks were more MLB-like).
> REDS starters have thrown 64.9% strikes this month. Luke, 60.2%.

Get this...
* The REDS bullpen has given up 0 earned runs in Luke starts this month!
> 12.1 IP, 10 H, 12 K, 3 BB.

[Puffy]

Wow, LaRue second against a righty - interesting, but not a bad move at all. Flip Casey and Kearns and I'd be even more impressed, but its still kewl.

[Hoosier Red]

Luke Hudson in the month of August:

* 4 GS, 23.2 IP, 17 H, 16 K, 10 BB, 11 ER, 4 HRA.
* 3-1 record, 4.18 ERA, 1.14 WHIP.
> Lowest WHIP for a REDS starter this month (just imagine if the walks were more MLB-like).
> REDS starters have thrown 64.9% strikes this month. Luke, 60.2%.

Get this...
* The REDS bullpen has given up 0 earned runs in Luke starts this month!
> 12.1 IP, 10 H, 12 K, 3 BB.


What is the BABIP? I know this is something people were worried about after last season. His being unnaturally low, and that seeming to be something that averages out over time.

[Matt700wlw]

TV alert:

Kournikova on CBS :eek:

[KronoRed]

Excellent lineup, the one I'd like to see more often, well like Puffy said with Kearns in front of the Case

[RedFanAlways1966]

What is the BABIP? I know this is something people were worried about after last season. His being unnaturally low, and that seeming to be something that averages out over time.

Not sure, Hoosier, but seems to be around .235 or so. He seems to be "effectively wild" this month. And seems to avoid the longball (despite giving up 4 in 4 GS) following those walks. 17 hits in 23.2 IP is impressive!

[CTA513]

Lopez lines out. 1 out.

[CTA513]

Larue grounds out. 2 outs.

[CTA513]

Griffey flies out. 3 outs.

[pedro]

I wonder if RA is on his way out of town?

[CTA513]

Sanchez flies out. 1 out.

[CTA513]

Mackowiak strikes out. 2 outs.

[Elam]

Just for fun, some more useless stats.
Griffey on Sundays:

AB R H 2B HR RBI BB HBP SF AVG OBP SLG OPS
59 14 20 4 6 15 10 1 2 .339 .431 .712 1.143
Sundays Away:

AB R H 2B HR RBI BB HBP SF AVG OBP SLG OPS
34 6 10 2 2 6 4 0 1 .294 .359 .529 .888
Sundays Home:

AB R H 2B HR RBI BB HBP SF AVG OBP SLG OPS
25 8 10 2 4 9 6 1 1 .400 .515 .960 1.475

[CTA513]

Bay walks.

[CTA513]

C. Wilson doubles, Bay scores.

1-0 Pirates.

[CTA513]

Eldred strikes out. 3 outs.

1-0 Pirates after 1 inning.

[Reds Fanatic]

Kearns reaches on an error but is thrown out trying to go to 2nd. 1-0 Pirates mid 2nd.

[CTA513]

Dunn grounds out. 1 out.

Casey grounds out. 2 outs

Kearns reaches on fielding error, but is thrown out at second. 3 outs.

[OnBaseMachine]

Dunn grounded out-Should have walked on four pitches had the ump not called a pitch six inches off the ground a strike. Questec please.

Casey grounded out.

Kearns singles/reach on error but thrown out at second.

[CTA513]

Wigginton flies out. 1 out.

[CTA513]

J. Wilson pops out. 2 outs.

[Newport Red]

Had a devil of a time getting on Redszone today. Had to check ESPN.com to see if anything catastrophic had happened. Griffey traded or Ortiz gettig a contract extension.

[CTA513]

Cota strikes out. 3 outs.

1-0 Pirates after 2 innings.

[CTA513]

Encarnacion strikes out. 1 out.

[Matt700wlw]

Notes:

Mike Remlinger DFA'd by Boston

[CTA513]

Olmedo grounds out. 2 outs.

[Reds Fanatic]

Hudson reaches on a 2 base error by Wilson

[CTA513]

Hudson goes to 2nd on a error by C. Wilson.

[CTA513]

Lopez grounds out. 3 outs.

[CTA513]

Wells grounds out. 1 out.

[pedro]

marty doesn't think much of EE.

[ochre]

marty doesn't think much of EE.
seriously?

[Matt700wlw]

Was this site having issues?

[pedro]

seriously?


yeah, he doesn't think he's ready but (sigh) we know he'll be given the job next year anyway.

btw Marty EE OPS is .150 higher than Randa's since the trade and he covers more ground.

[CTA513]

Was this site having issues?

It kept on freezing up and not loading.

[Matt700wlw]

It kept on freezing up and not loading.

So it wasn't just me...ok

[Gallen5862]

I tried to post about Juniors homerun but the whole site was frozen.

[RBA]

I wonder if the "Redsoners" picture thread is having an affect?

[Matt700wlw]

Griffey just keeps on hitting

[TheBurn]

Jr 2b

[CTA513]

Dunn intentionally walked.

[TheBurn]

AD int BB

[RBA]

JUNIOR!!!!!!!!

[Elam]

Marty sounds like he's a bit confused why the would walk Dunn to get to Casey (calling Casey the better hitter without a doubt). Maybe its the 26 GIDP Marty.

[TheBurn]

Just noticed Junior has the only 2 hits for the Reds!

[CTA513]

Casey walks, bases loaded. 2 outs.

[TheBurn]

Loaded for AK!

[GullyFoyle]

2 outs

[CTA513]

Kearns grounds out. 3 outs.

[TheBurn]

Bleh...

[KronoRed]

That stank

[CTA513]

Eldred hit by pitch.

[GullyFoyle]

Hudson just keeps getting himself into trouble... hope his luck holds out..

[CTA513]

Wigginton flies out. 1 out.

[Patrick Bateman]

Marty sounds like he's a bit confused why the would walk Dunn to get to Casey (calling Casey the better hitter without a doubt). Maybe its the 26 GIDP Marty.

With 2 outs, a runner on second, I'd pitch (carefully) to Dunn too. Casey probably has a better chance to score the runner from 2nd than Dunn.

With 2 outs, the DP's are irrelevant.

Also, Dunn is cold.Walking him could lead to a big inning.

[CTA513]

C. Wilson bunts, caught by Hudson. Eldred doubled off 1st. 3 outs.

1-1 tie game after 6 innings.

[Aronchis]

Reds pitchers luck is about ready to run out soon.

[CTA513]

Encarnacion with a bloop single.

[TeamBoone]

Marty sounds like he's a bit confused why the would walk Dunn to get to Casey (calling Casey the better hitter without a doubt). Maybe its the 26 GIDP Marty.

I was scratching my head over Marty's comments too.

What you said, plus... it would be more probable that Adam could give the Reds the lead with one swing of the bat. Sean probably would not.

Obviously, he believes BA is the better stat. Obvious, the Pirates manager has his own ideas.

[pedro]

Marty sounds like he's a bit confused why the would walk Dunn to get to Casey (calling Casey the better hitter without a doubt). Maybe its the 26 GIDP Marty.

or the fact that Dunn might hit a two run homer and the worst casey could do is drive in 1 run with a single.

[CTA513]

Olmedo with a sac bunt, Encarnacion to 2nd. 1 out.

[CTA513]

Aurilia pinch hitting for Hudson.

[RBA]

RICH "YOU AWE ME AN APOLOGY" AURILIA IS PINCH HITTING

[CTA513]

Aurilia strikes out. 2 outs.

[RBA]

Rich Aurilia strikes out.

[CTA513]

Lopez doubles, Encarnacion scores.

2-1 Reds

[RBA]

Felipe Lopez with RBI double!!!

[CTA513]

Larue reaches on throwing error.

[RBA]

JR IS NOW UP!

[KronoRed]

:clap:

[Patrick Bateman]

I was scratching my head over Marty's comments too.

What you said, plus... it would be more probable that Adam could give the Reds the lead with one swing of the bat. Sean probably would not.

Obviously, he believes BA is the better stat. Obvious, the Pirates manager has his own ideas.

Casey has a better chance of getting a hit than Dunn does. Any hit would get us the lead.

Two runs? Dunn needs a HR to score 2, Casey needs any extra base hit. Casey actually has a better chance of scoring 1 run, and knocking in 2. Putting Dunn on just made no sense.

[CTA513]

Griffey walks, Bases loaded. 2 outs.

[Puffy]

Putting Dunn on just made no sense.

In your opinion. Not fact, in your opinion.

[RBA]

Gonzalez likes pitching inside.

[CTA513]

Dunn walks, Lopez scores.

3-1 Reds

[Falls City Beer]

This team just continues and continues to demonstrate the value of a walk. Take notice, walk-haters.

[KronoRed]

Guess a sac fly would have been better ;)

[Buckaholic]

I tend to think that anyone would recognize the importance of a walk when the bases are loaded. What kind of person wouldn't understand a walk with the bases loaded is a good thing?

[Falls City Beer]

Guess a sac fly would have been better ;)

Yep, I want this team to perform the impossible too, but sheesh.... :)

[WMR]

Wow, when Dunn went 3-0, that fourth pitch was such an obvious ball but the ump gave it to the pitcher.. Dunn still ended up walking, but that was a HORRIBLE call.

[Falls City Beer]

I tend to think that anyone would recognize the importance of a walk when the bases are loaded. What kind of person wouldn't understand a walk with the bases loaded is a good thing?

Sounds crazy, right? Well, there are people who would.

But I guess I was referring to Griffey's walk more.

[SirFelixCat]

Good to see the boys showing good patience. Keep it up fellas!

[CTA513]

Casey lines out. 3 outs.

[TheBurn]

Good job guys... :clap:
3-1 Rojos

[Newport Red]

This team just continues and continues to demonstrate the value of a walk. Take notice, walk-haters.

Nice to see after Dunn's spat of first pitch swinging.

[Buckaholic]

I'm a person that doesn't diminish the importance of walks, but feels like sometimes they are too strongly critiqued when judging a player.

That being said, I feel that players who draw a lot of walks typically show a good command of the strike zone, and more times than not, show good patience for their pitches as well as show an ability to lay off bad pitches.

[Buckaholic]

Anyone surprised that it was Casey that ended the inning? haha

[RBA]

One of the worst reditions of "God Bless America" I have ever heard.

[Patrick Bateman]

In your opinion. Not fact, in your opinion.

In your opinion. Not fact, in your opinion.

IMO.

[CTA513]

Standridge into pitch the 7th.

[Falls City Beer]

In your opinion. Not fact, in your opinion.

IMO.

You two are so postmodern.

[Gallen5862]

Jim Edmonds just got hurt slideing into home on a double steal. They showed the highlight on the Braves game.

[Patrick Bateman]

I'm a person that doesn't diminish the importance of walks, but feels like sometimes they are too strongly critiqued when judging a player.



When we walk, we score. You can't give us free base runners and expect to escape damage.

[Falls City Beer]

Jim Edmonds just got hurt slideing into home on a double steal. They showed the highlight on the Braves game.

T'aint burn.

[CTA513]

Cota homers.

3-2 Reds.

:ughmamoru

[Falls City Beer]

Choad-a homers.

[CTA513]

Redman flies out. 1 out.

[Aronchis]

Enough of the Standridge fetish. I would rather see Todd Coffey right now.

[CTA513]

Sanchez singles.

[Falls City Beer]

Enough of the Standridge fetish. I would rather see Todd Coffey right now.

I'd rather see me out there.

[Buckaholic]

Florida and Washington and Milwaukee all losing today for those who are starting to dream about making a late run at the wildcard ;)

[Puffy]

In your opinion. Not fact, in your opinion.

IMO.

No, I didn't say anything either way - my opinion was not made known. You however, felt the need to belittle others opinions. Not saying, "I think" or "In my opinion," but by strong arm, others opinions mean nothing type "walking Dunn made no sense.

But thats typical of you, in my opinion.

[CTA513]

Jose Mesa homers.

;)

[CTA513]

Shackelford into pitch.

[Patrick Bateman]

No, I didn't say anything either way - my opinion was not made known.

Then what were you saying, if you weren't voicing your opinion?

Every post anyone makes vioces an opinion.

[CTA513]

Mackowiak with a bunt single.

[CTA513]

Belisle into pitch.

[WMR]

Darn, GREAT barehanded grab and throw by EdE, runner called safe, BLOWN CALL

[Chip R]

FLA just tied it up against the Cubs.

[Chip R]

Austin, Puffy, take it private.

[Puffy]

Then what were you saying, if you weren't voicing your opinion?

Every post anyone makes vioces an opinion.

I was saying that you don't need to belittle others, and your post was solely an opinion, just as valid as their posts. My opinion on the matter was I wouldn't have intentionally walked Dunn. I would have pitched him very carefully and tried to make him swing at the pitchers pitch. If he took the walk, so be it, I'd take the chance on Casey.

In short, I would more agree with you - but that doesn't mean I would tell others their opinions were wrong. The intentional walk worked after all. And using words like "no sense at all" isn't phrased as an opinion, its phrased as a fact.

[Falls City Beer]

FLA just tied it up against the Cubs.

You guys are killing me with your scoreboard watching :beerme:

[CTA513]

Sanchez thrown out stealing 3rd. 2 outs.

[CTA513]

Bay strikes out. 3 outs.

3-2 Reds after 7 innings.

[oneupper]

Sanchez thrown out stealing 3rd. 2 outs.

McClendon is very "challenged"'

[dsmith421]

Way to go Matt!

I think McClendon just wrote the textbook on running yourself out of an inning...I realize he wanted to set up the sac fly, but the DP would still have been there and with your two best power hitters (Bay and Wilson) up next, it doesn't make sense strategically.

[oneupper]

Way to go Matt!

I think McClendon just wrote the textbook on running yourself out of an inning...I realize he wanted to set up the sac fly, but the DP would still have been there and with your two best power hitters (Bay and Wilson) up next, it doesn't make sense strategically.

Maybe Sanchez was running on his own...

[CTA513]

Kearns grounds out. 1 out.

[CTA513]

Encarnacion with a ground rule double.

[Chip R]

You guys are killing me with your scoreboard watching :beerme:

Ah, not really. I just have that game on and I get tickeled when bad things happen to the Cubs. Thing is the Reds are screwed wild card wise no matter who wins.

[CTA513]

Olmedo walks.

[Matt700wlw]

Ah, not really. I just have that game on and I get tickeled when bad things happen to the Cubs. Thing is the Reds are screwed wild card wise no matter who wins.

True, but the Reds can be part of the NL Central and get out of the NL sub-central as long as things continue going the way they are

[CTA513]

Cruz pinch hitting for Belisle.

[Gainesville Red]

Marty's right, EdE's just not ready. :rolleyes:

[CTA513]

Cruz doubles, Encarnacion scores.

4-2 Reds

[Bobcat J]

Marty's right, EdE's just not ready. :rolleyes:

Will you explain this comment? I am not being argumentative, I just haven't heard what Marty said about EdE.

[CTA513]

Lopez with a sac fly, Olmedo scores.

5-2 Reds

[Puffy]

I love this offense.

[KronoRed]

I love a good sac fly in the afternoon

[KronoRed]

Marty's right, EdE's just not ready. :rolleyes:
He's not ready to bat cleanup

Yet :evil:

[CTA513]

Larue strikes out. 3 outs.

[Puffy]

I love a good sac fly in the afternoon

Sac flies and beer rawk.

Just sayin'

[Gainesville Red]

yeah, he doesn't think he's ready but (sigh) we know he'll be given the job next year anyway.

btw Marty EE OPS is .150 higher than Randa's since the trade and he covers more ground.

I don't have access to listen to Marty, just commenting on what Pedro said Marty thinks.

[oneupper]

Ump being merciful with the Bucs...

[KronoRed]

Sac flies and beer rawk.

Just sayin'
http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2004-9/825505/cs_samjackson2.jpg

[CTA513]

C. Wilson grounds out. 1 out.

[CTA513]

Coffey pitching the 8th.

[CTA513]

Eldred strikes out. 2 outs.

[CTA513]

Ward singles.

[CTA513]

J. Wilson flies out. 3 outs.

5-2 Reds after 8 innings.

[CTA513]

Eldred has struck out 8 times so far in the first 3 games of the series.

Hes struck out 40 times in a little over 100 atbats.

[CTA513]

Griffey flies out. 1 out.

[CTA513]

Dunn walks.

[Fullboat]

I feel sorry for the Buccos :( Here's to them winning there next
Series. :thumbup:

[CTA513]

Casey Homers!

7-2 Reds

[oneupper]

:beerme: Casey creams it

[GullyFoyle]

That 3-1 pitch is a killer!! :)

[TheBurn]

Casey power! :laugh:

[CTA513]

Kearns strikes out. 2 outs.

[oneupper]

Kearns now OPS .711 vs LHP (.224 avg).

[SirFelixCat]

Man, this team is just fun to watch the last 2 months. I don't care, big picture-wise right now, it's just fun. :beerme:

[CTA513]

Encarnacion strikes out. 3 outs.

[Gainesville Red]

Man, this team is just fun to watch the last 2 months. I don't care, big picture-wise right now, it's just fun. :beerme:

The way baseball should be. There was a couple weeks earlier in the season that it almost felt like it was a chore for me to watch the Reds. This is good baseball. I don't know who's responsible for the pitchers remembering how to pitch, but they need to keep some of it in a bottle for next year.

[KronoRed]

Trade.Casey.Now

:D

[CTA513]

Cota grounds out. 1 out.

[Falls City Beer]

I wish this team could do this kind of damage to contenders. :confused:

[CTA513]

Redman grounds out. 2 outs.

[CTA513]

Sanchez singles.

[CTA513]

Mackowiak flies out. 3 outs.

Reds win 7-2

[GullyFoyle]

I'm just hoping to see some highlights on BBTN... Last night they skipped the Bucs vs. Reds altogether, but showed A's highlights twice :(

Hate watching the whole hour show for nothing...

[Gallen5862]

"This one belongs to the Reds."

[Newport Red]

I think I'll tune into Tracy tonight.

[Gallen5862]

The Braves beat the Brewers.

[TheBurn]

So... the Reds are 32-21 since July 1st :clap:

[KronoRed]

Nice win.

[LvJ]

Coffey's first save. Nice. :)

[Patrick Bateman]

I wish this team could do this kind of damage to contenders. :confused:

If we could soundly beat contenders consistently, they wouldn't be contenders.

Every team generally has a worse record against the better teams. It's what makes them better teams.

We are 29-35 against the 9 teams still in contention for a playoff spot. If you included the Cubs, who were, until recently, in wild card contention, we are 36-40.

So, IMO, I would say that we have more or less held our own against the better teams.

But until our pitching improves, we aren't going to consistently beat on the best teams in the league.

[fielder's choice]

If the D'backs can beat the Phils tonight, the Reds will only be 7.5 back. :p:

[Big Klu]

Updated Reds HR list (players in italics are active):

Reds All-Time Home Run Leaders
1. Johnny Bench - 389
2. Frank Robinson - 324
3. Tony Perez - 287
4. Ted Kluszewski - 251
5. George Foster - 244
6. Eric Davis - 203
7. Barry Larkin - 198
8. Vada Pinson - 186
9. Wally Post - 172
10. Gus Bell - 160
11. Adam Dunn - 153
12. Joe Morgan - 152
12. Pete Rose - 152
14. Lee May - 147
15. Ken Griffey, Jr. - 136
16. Dan Driessen - 133
17. Reggie Sanders - 125
18. Ernie Lombardi - 120
19. Sean Casey - 118
20. Frank McCormick - 110
21. Dave Parker - 107
22. Chris Sabo - 104
23. Dave Concepcion - 101
24. Gordy Coleman - 98
25. Paul O'Neill - 96

[Cedric]

This team isn't going to the playoffs, but at least we can still dream. Most years there isn't even a miracle chance right now.

[TeamBoone]

Updated Reds HR list (players in italics are active):

Reds All-Time Home Run Leaders
1. Johnny Bench - 389
2. Frank Robinson - 324
3. Tony Perez - 287
4. Ted Kluszewski - 251
5. George Foster - 244
6. Eric Davis - 203
7. Barry Larkin - 198
8. Vada Pinson - 186
9. Wally Post - 172
10. Gus Bell - 160
11. Adam Dunn - 153
12. Joe Morgan - 152
12. Pete Rose - 152
14. Lee May - 147
15. Ken Griffey, Jr. - 136
16. Dan Driessen - 133
17. Reggie Sanders - 125
18. Ernie Lombardi - 120
19. Sean Casey - 118
20. Frank McCormick - 110
21. Dave Parker - 107
22. Chris Sabo - 104
23. Dave Concepcion - 101
24. Gordy Coleman - 98
25. Paul O'Neill - 96

Adam didn't get bolded.

[fielder's choice]

Adam didn't get bolded.

I think he bolded Griffey and Casey because they went deep today.