9/26 Monday Night Baseball Reds/Brewers

[cumberlandreds]

Live! From Miller Park Its Monday Night Baseball featuring Ray Olmedo playing 2nd base tonight!


Cincinnati
AB R H RBI BB K LOB Season Avg
R. Freel lf 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .269
F. Lopez ss 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .286
A. Dunn 1b 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .250
A. Kearns rf 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .242
J. Valentin c 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .282
W. Pena cf 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .260
E. Encarnacion 3b 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .223
R. Olmedo 2b 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .227
R. Ortiz p 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .080
Totals 0 0 0 0 0 0 0

Milwaukee
AB R H RBI BB K LOB Season Avg
B. Clark cf 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .305
R. Weeks 2b 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .242
L. Overbay 1b 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .279
C. Lee lf 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .267
G. Jenkins rf 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .288
B. Hall ss 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .285
R. Branyan 3b 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .254
D. Miller c 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .264
T. Ohka p 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 .118
Totals 0 0 0 0 0 0 0

[KittyDuran]

Well, Wily Mo must be happy... ;)

[Chip R]

Well, Wily Mo must be happy... ;)

And we all know who isn't

:aurilia:

[cumberlandreds]

Well, Wily Mo must be happy... ;)

But I betcha Aurilia is not! ;) Seems like if you complain about playing time it automatically gets you a start with this team.

[CTA513]

Freel reaches on a fielding error by Weeks.

[Heath]

wow-6:35pm start in Milwaukee tonight - awful early if you ask me...must be Oktoberfest in Brewtown tonight.... :D

[CTA513]

Lopez walks, Freel to 2nd.

[CTA513]

Dunn grounds into a double play. 2 outs.

[CTA513]

Kearns strikes out. 3 outs.

[CTA513]

Clark flies out. 1 out.

[cumberlandreds]

The Nats and Jim Bowden gave away a pretty good starting pitcher in Ohka. Robinson couldn't get along with him and instead of Bowden telling him to work it out he gave him away for Junior Spivey.

[CTA513]

Weeks strikes out. 2 outs.

[CTA513]

Overbay grounds out. 3 outs.

No score after 1 inning.

[CTA513]

Valentin Homers!

1-0 Reds.

[CTA513]

Pena lines out. 1 out.

[CTA513]

Encarnacion strikes out. 2 outs.

[CTA513]

Olmedo grounds out. 3 outs.

[CTA513]

Lee grounds out. 1 out.

[CTA513]

Jenkins singles.

[CTA513]

Hall triples, Jenkins scores.

1-1 tie game... that sure didnt take long.

:/

[CTA513]

Branyan homers.

3-1 Brewers.

[cincyinco]

I <3 Ortiz

[CTA513]

Miller grounds out. 2 outs.

[CTA513]

Ohka grounds out. 3 outs.

3-1 Brewers after 2 innings.

[CTA513]

I <3 Ortiz

The Reds cant wait to resign him this offseason. :evil:

[CTA513]

Ortiz strikes out. 1 out.

[flyer85]

The Reds cant wait to resign him this offseason. :evil:Sadly, with DanO in charge it is a distinct possibility.

[CTA513]

Freel strikes out. 2 outs.

[CTA513]

Lopez with an infield hit.

[CTA513]

Dunn strikes out. 3 outs.

[CTA513]

Clark flies out. 1 out.

[CTA513]

Weeks grounds out. 2 outs.

[CTA513]

Overbay walks.

[CTA513]

Lee grounds out. 3 outs.

3-1 Brewers after 3 innings.

[CTA513]

Kearns grounds out. 1 out.

[CTA513]

Valentin singles.

[CTA513]

Pena Homers!

3-3 tie game.

[LincolnparkRed]

Pena Homers!

3-3 tie game.

Thanks for doing this CTA!!

[CTA513]

Encarnacion walks.

[CTA513]

Olmedo strikes out. 2 outs.

[CTA513]

Ortiz flies out. 3 outs.

[CTA513]

Jenkins walks.

[CTA513]

Hall singles, Jenkins to 2nd.

[CTA513]

Branyan strikes out. 1 out.

[CTA513]

Miller singles, Jenkins scores.

4-3 Brewers.

[CTA513]

Ohka bunts in front of the plate, Valentin looks the runner back and throws to 1st.
Runner on 3rd comes home and scores. 2 outs.

5-3 Brewers.

[CTA513]

Clark grounds out. 3 outs.

5-3 Brewers after 4 innings.

[KronoRed]

And we all know who isn't

:aurilia:

And that is why it's a great lineup :D

[Reds Nd2]

With a runner on third and Encarnacion trying to field the bunt, why was Lopez going to cover 2B?

[CTA513]

Freel singles.

[KronoRed]

Anyone on the board still think we should bring Ortiz back?

[CTA513]

Freel picked off 1st. 1 out.

:/

[CTA513]

Lopez grounds out. 2 outs.

[cumberlandreds]

Anyone on the board still think we should bring Ortiz back?

I don't but I bet DanO does. At least it wouldn't be a surprise to me if he comes back.

[Reds Nd2]

Or a better question, why didn't Enacarnacion stay at 3B and hold the runner. Ortiz and Valentin should have been the ones fielding the bunt.

[CTA513]

Dunn singles.

[KronoRed]

Keep that AVG below 250 Dunn..it will be historic :D

[CTA513]

Kearns with a 12 pitch walk.

[CTA513]

Valentin grounds out. 3 outs.

[CTA513]

Weeks flies out. 1 out.

[Joseph]

5-3, going to the bottom of the 5th.

[CTA513]

Overbay flies out. 2 outs.

[CTA513]

Lee flies out. 3 outs.

5-3 Brewers after 5 innings.

[CTA513]

Pena strikes out. 1 out.

[CTA513]

Encarnacion doubles.

[CTA513]

Olmedo grounds out, Encarnacion to 3rd. 2 outs.

[CTA513]

Denorfia pinch hitting for Ortiz.

Denorfia strikes out. 3 outs.

[CTA513]

Shackelford into pitch the 6th.

[CTA513]

Jenkins homers.

6-3 Brewers.

[Elam]

Go EdE!!!
7-6 Reds

[lollipopcurve]

How does Marty like Edwin now?

That was a professional at-bat.

[KittyDuran]

I hope the Reds get more runs - I hate a close game against the Brewers in Milwaukee... :(

[LincolnparkRed]

why would Narron leave Mercker in to pitch to Carlos Lee? 7-7 for those who are wondering

[Joseph]

2 on, 1 out, top of 9 7-7

[KronoRed]

How does Marty like Edwin now?

That was a professional at-bat.

I'm sure Super Randa would have done it better

[Matt700wlw]

I'm sure Super Randa would have done it better

He doesn't dislike him, he just doesn't think he's ready to be in the big leagues yet

[Matt700wlw]

What an awful pitching matchup tonight

[CTA513]

The Reds dont know how to hold a lead... just call the game now.

[SteelSD]

Todd Coffey has now allowed 83 Hits in 57.1 Innings Pitched.

Chris Welsh believes this to be a real bright point for 2005.

I don't.

[KronoRed]

I loath the brewers

[Falls City Beer]

Todd Coffey has now allowed 83 Hits in 57.1 Innings Pitched.

Chris Welsh believes this to be a real bright point for 2005.

I don't.

Dude's got a .870 OPSA. :bang:

[CTA513]

Turnbow will shut down the Reds in the 9th to get the Brewers back to .500.

:)

[KittyDuran]

At least it's not as bad as Friday night's fiasco... :(

[SteelSD]

Dude's got a .870 OPSA. :bang:

That can't be right.

Aren't the Reds supposed to be just a single starting pitcher away from contention?

Riiiiighhhht...

[KittyDuran]

I loath the brewersHey! The Reds have 3 more games with them... ;)

[KittyDuran]

At least it's not as bad as Friday night's fiasco... :(Take that back - IT is as bad as Friday night... :bang:

[KittyDuran]

Well, I got to get to bed... :thumbup:

[CTA513]

Is Chris Booker dead?

[Matt700wlw]

The crumbling continues.

Watching the Bengals lately is really making me fed up with this organization. Sickening almost.

For the love of God, if Mike Brown can figure it out, ANYBODY should be able to figure it out!

[KittyDuran]

12-9 Brewers [who have scored 5 times and are still batting in the B8]. Reds have used 3 pitchers in this inning - Coffey, Belisle and Valentine.

[flyer85]

Todd Coffey has now allowed 83 Hits in 57.1 Innings Pitched.

Chris Welsh believes this to be a real bright point for 2005.

I don't.The Reds entire pen is filled with guys who should only pitch on the front of the pen and not the back.

[flyer85]

Is Chris Booker dead?2 bad outings and he might as well be. Being lower on the pecking order than Valentine is beyond deceased.

[WVRedsFan]

Is Chris Booker dead?

Nope. It's just Narron trying to pad the win-loss record with his "veterans" so he can come back to this mess next year.

We need an entire new pitching staff, less Claussen and Harang IMHO.

[SteelSD]

The Reds entire pen is filled with guys who should only pitch on the front of the pen and not the back.

...in Louisville.

[SteelSD]

When the Pinch Runner bats after scoring a Run, you know you've got yourself a very bad bullpen.

[flyer85]

...in Louisville.or lower.

[flyer85]

We need an entire new pitching staff, less Claussen and Harang IMHO.the problem is the people in charge don't see it that way. They have deluded themselves into thinking these guys can pitch.

[Aronchis]

The bullpen is simply fatigued. They weren't pitching this way a month ago, when your starters can't go enough innings, you wear down your bullpen. This isn't the first, nor the last time the Reds will be associated with these types of slumps intill they can get more innings from the starters, which may take years to fix.

[Joseph]

I don't think there is enough transaction wire to cover everything we need to do with this staff.

[KittyDuran]

Turnbow in to pitch for the Brewers... T9
EE out on strikes

[flyer85]

The bullpen is simply fatigued. the pen contains only mediocre to bad pitchers. There isn't a real keeper in the bunch. On good teams all these guys at their best would be fighting for the last 2 spots on the team.

[KittyDuran]

Olmedo walks

[KronoRed]

Could be worse

[KittyDuran]

Cruz to bat for Valentine

[westofyou]

I'm a baseball masochist
I'm a reds fan

Derrick Turnbow looks like a Muppet

This game is almost as long as Gone with the Wind and not even 1/100,000,000 as good.

If this game was a disease it would be fatal.

[westofyou]

I loath the brewers

Pilots....

[flyer85]

Reds might catch up if they don't swing

[KittyDuran]

Cruz walks...

[flyer85]

Reds have now drawn 11 walks.

I am still wondering, will Marty ever explain how walks can be bad both for the pitcher and for the hitter because that is his exact position on walks.

[KittyDuran]

Freel commits a Casey...
That's the ballgame... goodnight!

[Elam]

Reds might catch up if they don't swing
Freel swung.
Reds lose 12-9.

[SteelSD]

the pen contains only mediocre to bad pitchers. There isn't a real keeper in the bunch. On good teams all these guys at their best would be fighting for the last 2 spots on the team.

Exactly. This pen is populated with a bunch of guys who simply don't perform very well over time because they're not freakin' good enough.

I posted the whole pitching staff's OPSA numbers a while back and, at that time, there were about three pitchers on the whole staff who were above average. The rest were junk and many had ERA numbers that were out of line with their secondary numbers. A correction of those ERA numbers was only a matter of time.

And not a one of those guys has thrown more IP in relief than the Reds should be able to reasonably expect and they've been carrying an extra arm all season long (and now have multiple extra arms). Better starters would help, but that help would be limited to not letting the stinkers in the pen get on the mound in the first place.

[KittyDuran]

Nothing like having one of the most potent offenses in baseball with one of the most pathetic pitching staffs... :angry:

[flyer85]

Nothing like having one of the most potent offenses in baseball with one of the most pathetic pitching staffs... :angry:The Rangers say hello.

[westofyou]

Nothing like having one of the most potent offenses in baseball with one of the most pathetic pitching staffs... :angry:

How potent is the Reds offense?

They might be the only NL team to end up with 800 runs, they currently are in the plus 90 runs to the league average.

Let's go for 100 and be one the worst (all around) teams with the best offensive.

Woo Hoo

RUNS YEAR DIFF PLAYER LEAGUE RC/G EBH OBA

1 Pirates 1902 193 775 582 1.21 302 .023
2 Dodgers 1953 189 955 766 1.22 541 .021
3 Reds 1976 178 857 679 1.47 475 .028
4 Rockies 1996 177 961 784 1.02 555 .015
5 Rockies 1997 149 923 774 0.99 548 .015
6 Reds 1975 147 840 693 0.81 439 .016
7 Reds 1965 138 825 687 0.98 512 .018
8 Dodgers 1955 136 857 721 0.69 475 .019
9 Giants 1905 135 780 645 1.00 318 .024
10 Giants 1924 133 857 724 0.73 445 .013
11 Braves 2003 130 907 777 0.89 587 .008
12 Rockies 2001 130 923 793 1.03 598 .014
13 Dodgers 1949 126 879 753 0.41 435 .010
14 Pirates 1971 124 788 664 0.63 438 .004
15 Cubs 1906 124 704 580 0.47 272 .009
16 Braves 1964 122 803 681 0.54 465 .011
17 Giants 1908 121 652 531 0.67 245 .034
18 Cardinals 1942 119 755 636 0.56 411 .010
19 Rockies 2000 119 968 849 0.50 534 .011
20 Dodgers 1942 118 741 623 0.34 359 .010
21 Giants 1962 117 878 761 0.48 471 .004
22 Pirates 1925 116 912 796 0.65 499 .011
23 Giants 1921 112 840 728 0.37 405 .011
24 Dodgers 1951 112 855 743 0.49 470 .010
25 Giants 1912 109 823 714 0.39 367 .010
26 Pirates 1901 109 776 667 0.58 302 .014
27 Phillies 1977 108 847 739 0.73 508 .009
28 Cubs 1929 107 982 875 0.33 495 .005
29 Pirates 1909 105 701 596 0.43 335 .007
30 Giants 1904 105 744 639 0.46 298 .013
31 Cardinals 1901 104 792 688 0.36 320 .006
32 Phillies 1993 104 877 773 0.62 504 .015
33 Reds 1969 102 798 696 0.55 437 .005
34 Dodgers 1941 100 800 700 0.72 456 .011
35 Phillies 1932 100 844 744 0.70 519 .011

[KronoRed]

The Rangers say hello.

We have their manager and wave back.

[lollipopcurve]

He doesn't dislike him, he just doesn't think he's ready to be in the big leagues yet

Marty's wrong about EdE. The kid is 22, so growing pains are expected. At the same time, he has flashed some serious leather and cranked extra base hits at a very high rate. We're looking at a future All-Star, while Marty grouses and the game passes him by.

[Doc. Scott]

Man, Coffey had been on a roll... before tonight.

[Roy Tucker]

Marty's wrong about EdE. The kid is 22, so growing pains are expected. At the same time, he has flashed some serious leather and cranked extra base hits at a very high rate. We're looking at a future All-Star, while Marty grouses and the game passes him by.
"Ready for the big leagues" is a slippery thing.

I think EE has proven everything he can at the minor league level. Yet, he is struggling (and growing) at the big league level.

Is he ready? Weellllll sorta kinda maybe yes no. It's a 'tweener kind of thing.

The Reds could keep him at AAA and continue to polish the stone. But I agree with what their doing and letting him learn in the bigs. Every time I watch EE in a game, I see him do good things. He is improving. I think he is handling all the pressure well too. The Reds get a :thumbup: from me on Eddie.

I keep thinking "Mike Schmidt, rookie year" when I watch EE.