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timmario66
03-03-2006, 11:53 AM
The lineup for the Reds home spring training opener per Scott Springer on 1360am:

Freel - CF
Womack - 2B
Lopez - SS
Dunn - 1B
Aurilia - 3B
Kearns - RF
Larue - C
Snyder - DH
Wise - LF

Good to see Kearns back in the lineup.
Dunner44
03-03-2006, 11:57 AM
Is Griffey gone already? I'd have to assume so, since he isn't on either roster...
flyer85
03-03-2006, 12:06 PM
I don't think Freel could even find 2b.
cumberlandreds
03-03-2006, 12:10 PM
I'm really believing we are going to see an everyday lineup with Womack at 2b and Aurilia at 3b.:bang:
TeamBoone
03-03-2006, 12:11 PM
Is Griffey gone already? I'd have to assume so, since he isn't on either roster...

Yes, I believe he left yesterday (after his daughter's first ever game).
Z-Fly
03-03-2006, 12:33 PM
Why don't we let EE develop in the majors during a "down" year? Sometimes I just don't know.
flyer85
03-03-2006, 12:43 PM
Why don't we let EE develop in the majors during a "down" year? While it is possible to promote a player to quickly it is also possible to promote too slowly and stifle their development as well. EE was outstanding in AAA last season. Nothing left to prove at that level, he needs to be challenged at the major league level.
registerthis
03-03-2006, 12:49 PM
While it is possible to promote a player to quickly it is also possible to promote too slowly and stifle their development as well. EE was outstanding in AAA last season. Nothing left to prove at that level, he needs to be challenged at the major league level.

Yep, their hesitancy to pencil him at third barring a ST disaster is one of the stranger tales to come out of Reds camp in recent years. Either EE can play at a consistently high level in the majors or he can't. Sitting him behind the craptastic Aurilia isn't going to answer anything, and will only make matters worse. I honestly have less of a problem with Womack at 2nd than I do with Aurilia at third. Awful as Womack is, at least he isn't stifling the development of another younger player there (Freel, I assume, will find his way into the lineup somewhere). Giving Aurilia the 3B nod has the potential to have a detrimental effect on this team for years to come.
TeamBoone
03-03-2006, 12:50 PM
While it is possible to promote a player to quickly it is also possible to promote too slowly and stifle their development as well. EE was outstanding in AAA last season. Nothing left to prove at that level, he needs to be challenged at the major league level.

Couldn't agree more. There's no way he should be playing in AAA any more. He's ready.
BRM
03-03-2006, 12:51 PM
Yep, their hesitancy to pencil him at third barring a ST disaster is one of the stranger tales to come out of Reds camp in recent years.

You mean since last year with Lopez...
registerthis
03-03-2006, 12:59 PM
You mean since last year with Lopez...

Well, yes, that would be another "one of the..." tales. Funny how RA seems to be involved in most of them.
flyer85
03-03-2006, 01:01 PM
You mean since last year with Lopez...that was an issue but Lopez never showed as much at AAA as EE did last year. He is a kid who I have little doubt is going to be an all-star. In addition, he has the hands, range and arm to provide gold glove caliber defense as well.

My nightmare is RA at 3B and Womack at 2b on opening day. The best the true fans can seemingly hope for at this point is that RA wins the 2B job in spring training because Womack is a less than zero.
KronoRed
03-03-2006, 01:15 PM
Not only is Womack getting 2nd, but he's going to sabotage a lot of lineups batting 2nd, whoever bats 3rd will more then likely always be batting with 2 outs.

Dandy.
BRM
03-03-2006, 01:16 PM
The best the true fans can seemingly hope for at this point is that RA wins the 2B job in spring training because Womack is a less than zero.

I'm rooting for that scenario at this point. I am convinced that Freel isn't even in the running to be a starter at 2B. Given the choice between RA and Woemack, the choice has to be RA.
LincolnparkRed
03-03-2006, 01:17 PM
Not only is Womack getting 2nd, but he's going to sabotage a lot of lineups batting 2nd, whoever bats 3rd will more then likely always be batting with 2 outs.

Dandy.

Well at least they won't approach Casey's GIDP's from last year.:mooner:
flyer85
03-03-2006, 01:22 PM
I am convinced that Freel isn't even in the running to be a starter at 2B. Given the choice between RA and Woemack, the choice has to be RA.seeing as Freel has played everyday in the OF so far ... Hey maybe my using Woemack is catching on.
Dunner44
03-03-2006, 01:23 PM
Detroit's up 2-0 and we're just about to start the bottom of the 1st. I don't have press pass, so all I know is they didn't score on home runs..... I guess thats progress w/ this pitching staff... way to go Geronimo...
Dunner44
03-03-2006, 01:26 PM
Now the score is tied at 2.... Dunner ripped a homer, I don't know who if anyone was on base...
TeamBoone
03-03-2006, 01:33 PM
Yea! Adam!

EE hit a HR in the other game.
flyer85
03-03-2006, 01:33 PM
Now the score is tied at 2.... Dunner ripped a homer, I don't know who if anyone was on base...the inning could have been more productive if he had just bunted the runner over.
TeamBoone
03-03-2006, 01:35 PM
the inning could have been more productive if he had just bunted the runner over.

:D Don't you know it!
Dunner44
03-03-2006, 01:36 PM
the inning could have been more productive if he had just bunted the runner over.

Ok, I think we get your point....
flyer85
03-03-2006, 01:38 PM
Ok, I think Now that's where the problem starts. Go with your instinct.
BRM
03-03-2006, 01:38 PM
the inning could have been more productive if he had just bunted the runner over.

:laugh:

You're killing me today flyer. Thanks for making this lazy afternoon Friday more enjoyable. :)
flyer85
03-03-2006, 01:40 PM
:laugh:

You're killing me today flyer. Thanks for making this lazy afternoon Friday more enjoyable. :)the sarcasm is just spewing out like a recently unplugged septic tank on a warm summer afternoon.
membengal
03-03-2006, 01:40 PM
I wouldn't lose sleep over EE traveling down to Ft. Myers, the Reds are supposed to send a number of starters on the road trips. I think EE qualifies as such for that trip.
guttle11
03-03-2006, 01:40 PM
Now the score is tied at 2.... Dunner ripped a homer, I don't know who if anyone was on base...


He must have missed the bunt signal.
TeamBoone
03-03-2006, 01:41 PM
Is anyone actually lucky enough to be listening to the game?

I'm following the scoreboard, but that's it.
membengal
03-03-2006, 01:41 PM
Is anyone actually lucky enough to be listening to the game?

I'm following the scoreboard, but that's it.

No, not available anywhere, as neither team is broadcasting it.

I am listening to the Reds/Twins game on XM.
KronoRed
03-03-2006, 01:42 PM
the sarcasm is just spewing out like a recently unplugged septic tank on a warm summer afternoon.
http://lastperson.suncircle.org/Smileys/default/ew.png
traderumor
03-03-2006, 01:43 PM
I have read nothing that gives me the impression that the Reds are doing anything more than trying to avoid handing a 23 year-old the job in the offseason with respect to EE.
flyer85
03-03-2006, 01:43 PM
http://lastperson.suncircle.org/Smileys/default/ew.png
I'm sure that is the proper reaction :laugh:

Remember - "If the women don't find you handsome, they should at least find you handy".
TeamBoone
03-03-2006, 01:44 PM
No, not available anywhere, as neither team is broadcasting it.

I am listening to the Reds/Twins game on XM.

It's available on MLB if anyone signed up for Gameday Audio. I thought maybe someone had it.
Dunner44
03-03-2006, 01:45 PM
Geronimo got out of the second unscathed... 4 hits for the Tigers in 2 innings.
TeamBoone
03-03-2006, 01:45 PM
I am listening to the Reds/Twins game on XM.

Has Austin really been up to bat for about 10 minutes?
Chip R
03-03-2006, 01:49 PM
Has Austin really been up to bat for about 10 minutes?

All the bats there flew out of his hands so they had to get some new ones so they could keep playing. ;)
membengal
03-03-2006, 01:55 PM
It's available on MLB if anyone signed up for Gameday Audio. I thought maybe someone had it.


I just looked on gameday audio, and I don't see it as available today, but if I am misreading that, someone please let me know. Thanks.
flyer85
03-03-2006, 01:55 PM
All the bats there flew out of his hands so they had to get some new ones so they could keep playing. ;)they really need to get Austin some bungee cord so he could attach the bat to his wrist. I have a feeling that bat throwing would end in a hurry. Those rebounds would be hell.
membengal
03-03-2006, 01:56 PM
Has Austin really been up to bat for about 10 minutes?


Edit:

Wrong thread.

Sorry.
NJReds
03-03-2006, 02:03 PM
It's now 8-2 Detroit...no idea what happened.
KronoRed
03-03-2006, 02:06 PM
Reds Pitching happened, what more needs to be said? ;)
membengal
03-03-2006, 02:09 PM
Just curious as to which portion of Reds pitching happened...

Edit: From peering at mlb.com's scoreboard, looks like a part of that was on Weathers...
TeamBoone
03-03-2006, 02:56 PM
I just looked on gameday audio, and I don't see it as available today, but if I am misreading that, someone please let me know. Thanks.

It's available on mine. I went in to it and it said I had to pay.... they used to do ST for free.
membengal
03-03-2006, 03:09 PM
You are acutally able to listen to the Reds/Tigers game? Who is doing the announcing since neither the Reds or Tigers radio crews are doing the game?
Caseyfan21
03-03-2006, 03:10 PM
You are acutally able to listen to the Reds/Tigers game? Who is doing the announcing since neither the Reds or Tigers radio crews are doing the game?

Yeah, I don't have it available on mlb.com at all. The only Reds game is the Twins announcers for the Twins/Reds game.
Doc. Scott
03-03-2006, 03:15 PM
ESPN says it's 11-4 Tigers in the sixth inning.
Chip R
03-03-2006, 03:17 PM
Man, where is that situational hitting when we need it?
flyer85
03-03-2006, 03:17 PM
ESPN says it's 11-4 Tigers in the sixth inning.... at least they haven't been run-ruled yet.
UGADaddy
03-03-2006, 03:36 PM
Anyone know the final stat line for Germano?
Doc. Scott
03-03-2006, 03:41 PM
Now it's 15-8. Tigers get a two-point conversion to go with their second TD.
membengal
03-03-2006, 04:51 PM
Sounds like Weathers was indeed the prime culprit.

http://cincinnati.reds.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/news/article.jsp?ymd=20060303&content_id=1332209&vkey=spt2006gamer&fext=.jsp&c_id=cin

Tigers 17, Reds (ss) 10
at Sarasota, Fla.
Friday, March 3
Reds at the plate: In his spring debut at his new position, first baseman Adam Dunn went 2-for-3 with a two-run home run to right-center field in the first inning. Dunn added a one-out double in the fifth. Rich Aurilia added a one-out RBI single in the third inning. Ray Olmedo hit a two-run single during a four-run sixth inning.

Tigers at the plate: Chris Shelton was 2-for-4 and drove in two first-inning runs with a double to left field. Shelton added a solo home run to right field in the fourth. Part of a six-run third inning, Carlos Guillen smoked a three-run triple to right field. Guillen and Magglio Ordonez are getting in all the game action they can before leaving Sunday to play for Venezuela in the World Baseball Classic.

Reds on the mound: Battling for a spot in the rotation, starter Justin Germano gave up two runs and four hits over two innings. Germano walked one and struck out two. David Weathers (0-1) had a bumpy one inning, giving up six runs (three earned) on five hits with a hit batter. Seeking a spot on the roster, Luke Hudson gave up a run and a hit on Shelton's homer and walked three batters in two innings.

Tigers on the mound: Left-handed veteran Mike Maroth also gave up two runs and four hits over two innings of work. Maroth did not walk anyone and struck out one. It was a rougher afternoon for Justin Verlander (1-0), who is vying for the fifth spot in Detroit's rotation. Verlander gave up two runs on four hits, but threw two wild pitches that scored a run in the third inning and hit a batter in the fourth.

Grapefruit League records: Reds 0-2; Tigers 2-0.

Up next: On Saturday, Cincinnati heads to Tampa to play the Yankees while Detroit travels to Winter Haven to play AL Central and Polk County spring rival, the Indians.
Dunner44
03-03-2006, 05:08 PM
Encouraging stuff from the game:

Germano 4 ground outs vs. 0 flyouts..... huge in our ballpark (2 SO, 1 BB)
Dunn: 6 TB, 2 run HR and a double.... he hasn't cooled off...

Not so good:

Zero BBs by the team... what gives?
Chick: 36.00 ERA.... hmmmm
Hudson: 3 BB in 2 innings.... he's still struggling
Womack: Error and a GIDP.... but he knows how to play the game...
No hits by Kearns in 3 tries...
Why didn't Pena play?
lollipopcurve
03-03-2006, 05:11 PM
Why didn't Pena play?

He's off to the World Baseball Classic.
membengal
03-03-2006, 05:14 PM
I thought he was skipping that...

(along with FeLo)
Dunner44
03-03-2006, 05:14 PM
He's off to the World Baseball Classic.


Ah.... for some reason I thought he was gonna be smart like Dunn and actually get some reps on defense at a position he is weak at defensively
TeamBoone
03-03-2006, 05:19 PM
Hey! Adam has a .667 average!

If someone knows how to post the box scores so that they are readable, please click on the link and do it. Thanks.

http://cincinnati.reds.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/news/article.jsp?ymd=20060303&content_id=1332209&vkey=spt2006gamer&fext=.jsp&c_id=cin

Yes, you did already post it. Sorry.
membengal
03-03-2006, 05:19 PM
Edited out.
Heath
03-03-2006, 06:02 PM
You can tell on a SS day in RedsZone which team won due to the length of the game thread.
membengal
03-03-2006, 06:20 PM
Well, and also which game you could actually listen to.

And, tb, sorry, long day at work and I need to go drink a beer and stop being touchy.