4/30/06 - Reds vs. Astros Game Thread

[CrackerJack]

refuse to lose...

[Falls City Beer]

My biggest gripe with Krivsky is his not having traded Valentin during ST for anything with a pulse.

[THNDRacket]

I guess I can't complain too much about Valentin's at bat since it looks like he had a good ball to hit, but Aurilia's at bat was underwhelming.

[GullyFoyle]

Top of our lineup due up at least...

[KronoRed]

I'm still looking for gapper....
Mr.Red and RosieRed killed him.

[SteelSD]

Those were two awful AB after the pitching change. Valentin swings at the first pitch and Aurilia tries to weakly punch at a ball about 6 inches off the plate.

[RBA]

2-0 count

2-1 called strike!

hit the corner 2-2

94 MPH

low outside 3-2

ground out to Ed E

[CrackerJack]

Harley biker guy in to pitch for Reds

[Jr's Boy]

Mr.Red and RosieRed killed him.

RRTFLMAO!

[THNDRacket]

Mr.Red and RosieRed killed him.

Oh, that's good.

But I was looking for a different type of gapper.

[RBA]

Rick White is pitching by the way

P. Wilson up

foul out of play right side

way outisde in dirt 1-1

1-2 called

low 2-2

fouled off foot
shot foul 2-2
slow grounder Ede gets him out!!!!!

[Clepper]

Houston still has to get through are lineup one more time - I see a 4-3 win sometime in the near future.:p: :p: ;)

[KronoRed]

Oh, that's good.

But I was looking for a different type of gapper.
One gapper at a time.

[MrCinatit]

Sounds like a very good play by EdE on a grounder by P Wilson

[Falls City Beer]

2 down

[Red in Chicago]

nice play by ee...

[THNDRacket]

Encarnacion makes a very tough play on Wilson.

[RBA]

Jason Lane up

called strike

swing miss 0-2

ouside ball 1 1-2

ground out to LOPEZ

1, 2 , 3 INNING!!!

[SteelSD]

Wilson dribbles one to Encaracion- who charges the ball and flings it to 1st to nab Wilson by a step. Nice play.

[REDSEER]

22814 at the game today

[THNDRacket]

Nice outing by Rick White - all groundouts!

[Falls City Beer]

1-2-3 inning for tighty whitey.

[KronoRed]

22814 at the game today
For the titanic struggle.

[Aronchis]

EE can't play third, ask the experts and scouts:rolleyes:

[RBA]

We will see the top of the order here!

[redsrule2500]

22814 ?? weak, guess this isn't a baseball town (Andy F)

[RBA]

Freel Up,

High 1-0

OUTSIDE 2-0

OUTSIDE 3-0

CALLED STRIKE INSIDE CORNER

CALLED STRIKE FULL COUNT

BULL****

CALLED STRIKE 3 IT WAS LOW

[Unassisted]

3rd strike pitch was low.

[MWM]

That called third strike on Freel was AWFUL!

[SteelSD]

Ryan Freel called out on Ball Four.

[RBA]

Lopez Up

1-1

FLYOUT TO LEFT

[KronoRed]

Boo

[Falls City Beer]

I actually dislike having to face Qualls when he's more than likely returning to 2005 form. It means he's going to go through a stretch of unhittability while he corrects his numbers. Chad Qualls is NOT a 7.00 ERA pitcher.

[RBA]

Dunn Up

Another Ball Called A Strike


1-1
GROUND OUT TO 2ND

[Wheelhouse]

For those not watching--a couple of HORRENDOUS strike calls by the ump

[Newport Red]

22814 at the game today

Well that sucks. I thought Tracy Jones said it was a seel out because of a bobblehead. Here I am doing nothing today.

[redsrule2500]

This is rediculous!!!!!!!!!!!

[KronoRed]

Bring on the cameras and dump the umps.

[Wheelhouse]

Reds got screwed in that inning.

[redsrule2500]

^haha...no cameras.

[Unassisted]

Qualls makes it look easy. :(

[flynn78]

.yllar a deen eW I'm posting backwards, a rally post if you will.

[Wheelhouse]

If the Reds lose this, it was STOLEN by the ump

[Falls City Beer]

Qualls makes it look easy. :(

Qualls is a very good pitcher--his numbers were just a tad skewed by a rough start. He'll be in the 3.00s before long. Outside of the psychologically doinked Lidge, I still very, very much like Houston's bullpen.

[RBA]

Coffey In

Ausmus Foul 0-1

1-1

2-1

HAMMERED, BUT FREEL GOT IT AT THE TRACK

[KronoRed]

^haha...no cameras.
They won't make horrible calls.

[SteelSD]

Bring on the cameras and dump the umps.

Today's bottom half of the 8th Inning was brought to you by lobbyists in support of QuesTec.

This message paid by for the Foundation for the Elimination of Crappy Ball and Strike Calls.

[westofyou]

If the Reds lose this, it was STOLEN by the ump
Other team seems to be doing ok so far.

[OnBaseMachine]

I hate home plate umps. Bring is questec. Umps just possibily cost the Reds a sweep of the Astros.

[RBA]

Adam Everrett Flys Out To Dunn

[RBA]

Ball 1 On Lamb

CALLED STRIKE 1-1

1-2

SCORE IS 3-2 ASTROS TOP 9

FOUL

FOUL 1-2

UMP DOES NOT GIVE US THE SAME CALLS

2-2

IN DIRT BALL 3 3-2

There's your gapper. Held to single

[Gainesville Red]

Not that I haven't been sold on the idea that Freel needs to be the centerfielder over Griffey, but the last couple of series have capital letters SOLD me on it.

[SanDiegoRed]

I feel a bottom of the 9th wow! coming on...

[flynn78]

I hate home plate umps. Bring is questec. Umps just possibily cost the Reds a sweep of the Astros.
Not over yet. Hopefully some GABP magic.

[Wheelhouse]

west- the strike zone JUMPED south in the bottom of the 8th--wasn't the whole game

[Unassisted]

Qualls line: 1-2/3 inning with No hits, No walks, No runs, 1K.

[MWM]

It was a bad called third strike on Freel and a bad strike one on Dunn, but it's not been that bad the whole game, and the way Qualls was throwing, there's still a good chance the Reds don't score there. I think it's a little, no a lot, overdramatic saying the umps cost the Reds the game.

[Red in Chicago]

I think it's a little, no a lot, overdramatic saying the umps cost the Reds the game.

agreed

[Wheelhouse]

ahh let's have fun...

[Unassisted]

Didn't like the look of that Ball 3 pitch. The next one landed in the outfield for a single. :(

[RBA]

Burke up

ball 1

1-1 foul

fly out to Kearns 3 down!!!

[OnBaseMachine]

Not really too overdramatic, IMO. The Reds would have had a speedy runner on 1B, with 0 outs and their best hitters come up. I like their chances to score in that situation.

I'm tired of umpires screwing Dunn. Bring on questec. No more small strikezones to Pujols or huge strikezones on Dunn.

[RBA]

Rally Time!

[Wheelhouse]

we can get back to your arithematic even temper ater the game MWM :D

[MWM]

Not really too overdramatic, IMO. The Reds would have had a speedy runner on 1B, with 0 outs and their best hitters come up. I like their chances to score in that situation.

Yes, but liking their chances and saying the ump cost the game are two different things.

[THNDRacket]

Think Lidge can get a fastball past Encarnacion?

[flynn78]

Lidge is human. No "S" on his chest. Let's pull this one out.

[Wheelhouse]

Let's go EE!

[Unassisted]

I would argue that the Reds wouldn't have been in this game without a couple of stellar OF plays by Freel.

[redsrule2500]

I would argue that the Reds wouldn't have been in this game without a couple of stellar OF plays by Freel.


Why we need to trade Griffey, even if 50% of his contract is ours.

[Unassisted]

Any other TV viewers tired of seeing that guy run into the soda machine?

[KronoRed]

Freel = Gold glove? ;)

[RBA]

Bot 9 Reds Behind 3-2

Ed E Up Lidge Pitching

[RBA]

Ball 1!

[KronoRed]

Any other TV viewers tired of seeing that guy run into the soda machine?
That's what you get for having it on TV when we don't :p:

[RBA]

Ump Bad Call Again 1-1

[RBA]

Low, But Called A Stike 1-2 Boooooooooooooooo

[KronoRed]

Paid by the bad calls? :D

[RBA]

In Dirt 2-2

[Wheelhouse]

why is Lidge throwing? he could bowl and get the strike call

[RBA]

K Swinging

[KronoRed]

why is Lidge throwing? he could bowl and get the strike call
His bowling game is pretty bad.

[MWM]

These Houston announcers aren't so bad. But it could be I'm so jaded by Washington's that anyone sounds good.

[Unassisted]

I think the umps have dinner reservations at 5:00. ;)

[RBA]

hAT TAKES ball 1 and the ump calls it a ball !!!

[RBA]

ball 2 in dirt

[MWM]

Yeah, that strike two call to EdE was low, but it was fairly close. That gets called a strike quite a bit.

[KronoRed]

Those are strikes on Mr.Dunn

[OnBaseMachine]

Sounds like this ump just wants to go home.

[RBA]

foul 2-1 to Hat

[westofyou]

These Houston announcers aren't so bad. But it could be I'm so jaded by Washington's that anyone sounds good.
Washington's announcers were like listening to the Teletubbies call the game.

[RBA]

ball 3

[redsrule2500]

Good day for Houston pitching. Even so, good day for our pitching holding the Astros to 3 runs IMO.

[RBA]

full count on Hat

[KronoRed]

Just get on base

[RBA]

k swinging

[MWM]

Washington's announcers were like listening to the Teletubbies call the game.

:laugh:

Ya' know, that's actually a pretty good description.

[RBA]

single!!!

[flynn78]

Base hit Kearnsy!

[KronoRed]

:pray:

[MWM]

I know Lidge has struggled this year, but he looked downright nasty today.

[RBA]

I Predict A Homer Here!!!

[Unassisted]

Houston announcer Bill Brown used to call Reds games. I think that's why he's knowledgable and respectful of the Reds.

[MWM]

Phillips won't see anything straight.

[westofyou]

Roy Hobbs steps to the plate

[kevinc12345]

PHILLIPS TIME!

Nice job Kearns to get on there!

[SteelSD]

Good day for Houston pitching. Even so, good day for our pitching holding the Astros to 3 runs IMO.

Contrary to semi-popular belief, the Astros offense is awful.

[MWM]

WTF?????

No way was that a strike (first one on BP). Booooooooooooo!

[KronoRed]

Contrary to semi-popular belief, the Astros offense is awful.
Like the Cards..some major leaguers surrounded by fluff.

[KronoRed]

Even the little MLB gameday thing had that pitch high :dunno:

[RBA]

Stolen Base!!

[MWM]

I thought BP just looked at strike three.

This guy has been pretty bad the last two innings.

[kevinc12345]

3-2 :scared:

[Dunner44]

Holly Friggin A, BP has walked thrice in one game!

[MrCinatit]

Another excellent at bat by Phillips - honestly, this is a very good game for a guy who hasn't gotten a hit today.

[kevinc12345]

Walk!

[SanDiegoRed]

Mvp! Mvp

[MWM]

YAY!!!!!

Javier is up.

[KronoRed]

Nice :clap:

[westofyou]

Brandon Philisp must be wearing Dunn's socks, 3 BB in 2 days.

Hackman up

[KronoRed]

YAY!!!!!

Javier is up.
I'd PH.

[flynn78]

Come on Javy!

[kevinc12345]

A double and the Reds win here... Phillips can fly on the basepaths.

[SteelSD]

Ok. That's three walks today for Phillips.

Someone let me know how the game ends. I'm going to go buy some lottery tickets.

[GullyFoyle]

Brandon Philisp must be wearing Dunn's socks, 3 BB in 2 days.

Hackman up

4BB in 2 days, I think...

[Unassisted]

I'd PH.Javier has homered off Lidge before. I think that's why he's up there.

[MWM]

Javier swings at more bad pitches than anyone in the lineup.

[OnBaseMachine]

Brandon Philisp must be wearing Dunn's socks, 3 BB in 2 days.

Hackman up

4 walks in two days. Three today and one yesterday.

[Dunner44]

Fouls the 1-2 pitch to stay alive

[redsrule2500]

well that sucks.

[Unassisted]

Javy got fooled. Looked bad on that K. :(

[KronoRed]

:(

[MrCinatit]

Shoot. had to lose one sometime, I guess.

[Dunner44]

Damn, reds loose. Why not pinch Javy there, he has been crap all season.

If we had to trade anyone, I'd drop Javy as soon as I could.

At least the Lizard put in a quality start, in GABP none the less.

[KronoRed]

Someone tell Steel to hold off on the lotto tickets

[RBA]

We Won The Series. This Would Of Been Gravy!

[Kc61]

Here comes the Javy bashing. Maybe if he got some at bats once in awhile he would hit like last year.

[MWM]

Valentin has looked awful at the plate the whole year.

I think last year was the proverbial career year, and maybe talkes of trading Larue are a little premature.

[gitrdunn44]

2 out of 3, I'll take it. Tough loss today. Javy looks pretty awful up there sometimes.

[Wheelhouse]

Drayton McLane seen peeling off some twenties in the umps locker room

[flynn78]

That's the ballgame. Javy has not been good at the plate this year in my opinion. You can't win them all, unless your the Harlem Globetrotters.

[Caveat Emperor]

Can you see "Career Year" for Javier Valentin last season?

[THNDRacket]

Good game.

[redsrule2500]

Either way our pitching gave up low Runs each game against Houston...that's MUCH more than we could have said last year.

Excellent series, I would have taken 2 outta 3 at the beginning, and it's still a success despite the 9th inning rallly that could have been.

[Gandalf the Red]

This Would Of Been Gravy!

Don't call it that. ;)

[Wheelhouse]

LaRue hasn't looked that great

[KronoRed]

Can you see "Career Year" for Javier Valentin last season?
I was saying it last season ;)

[OnBaseMachine]

Too bad the ump had to use the bathroom or else this could possibily be a tied game if he had not expanded the zone on EdE and Hatteberg.;)

[flynn78]

Here comes the Javy bashing. Maybe if he got some at bats once in awhile he would hit like last year.
You are right. The three catcher alignment has given him no chance to get a rythym.

[Unassisted]

Valentin was 1 for 6 lifetime against Lidge. The 1 hit was a HR. I don't blame Narron for the call.

It's pouring rain at GABP now, BTW.

[LincolnparkRed]

Ross has actually been the most consistent hitting catcher so far.

[kevinc12345]

Not a bad game though. Excellent series, that's what is most important. Taking 2 of 3 over the Astros while only giving up 10 runs in 3 games is a very good sign from this pitching staff. I'm confident the Reds will be right back on track on offense when Griffey returns.

[Clepper]

just couldn't put anything together today. Even the inning we got the home run we hit into a dp the play b4.

[membengal]

Not a bad game at all, tough pitching for both sides. Would have loved to see them tie it...too bad about Lopez's DP in the 6th...for those who moan about strikeouts, a gentle reminder that OUTS are precious, not contact.

[SteelSD]

Here comes the Javy bashing. Maybe if he got some at bats once in awhile he would hit like last year.

The chance that Valentin would reproduce his 2005 numbers this season were exceptionally remote. That being said, Valentin has received MORE playing time than he did last season- not less.

[Kc61]

I fear that Larue and Valentin (especially Javy) will suffer with the three catcher alignment. I don't believe JV suddenly forgot how to hit after a "career year." But you can't expect him to hit Brad Lidge after sitting all week. JV didn't seem to have his timing today.

I don't really care which of them goes, but JL or JV should catch most days with Ross the backup. I would hope for a trade of the third guy relatively soon.

And if JV has more at bats this year, they mostly came at the very beginning. Lately he has hardly played at all.

[westofyou]

Shoot. had to lose one sometime, I guess.
Nah... paying off the ump is the only way the Reds really lose.


Originally Posted by Kc61
Here comes the Javy bashing. Maybe if he got some at bats once in awhile he would hit like last year.

That's funny considering how you've been lobbying against LaRue for as long as I can remember. ;)

[SteelSD]

I fear that Larue and Valentin (especially Javy) will suffer with the three catcher alignment. I don't believe JV suddenly forgot how to hit after a "career year." But you can't expect him to hit Brad Lidge after sitting all week. JV didn't seem to have his timing today.

I don't really care which of them goes, but JL or JV should catch most days with Ross the backup. I would hope for a trade of the third guy relatively soon.

And if JV has more at bats this year, they mostly came at the very beginning. Lately he has hardly played at all.

And Valentin isn't going to play much going forward as long as he can't hit from the right side- particularly if Dave Ross is going to be catching all of Arroyo's games. Such is the life of a backup Catcher. That being said, it isn't playing time that's going to help improve Valentin's numbers- it's going to be sitting him against every southpaw on the planet.

[OnBaseMachine]

Carlos Zambrano got rocked again today, allowing seven runs in 4 innings against the Brewers.

[MWM]

Carlos Zambrano got rocked again today, allowing seven runs in 4 innings against the Brewers.

Too many innings too young. He was Dusty'ed. Or it might just be an early season slump.

[UGADaddy]

I'm confident the Reds will be right back on track on offense when Griffey returns.

I'm not so sure that's going to be the best thing. I know he's great and he's getting back to his old form. But he's a middle-of-the-order guy and we're stacked there. I'm more concerned that he'll hurt us defensively (Freel's better in CF) and we won't have that solid leadoff guy anymore (no one starts the offense like Freel--except does anyone think Phillips could do it??)

[MWM]

I wasn't aware the offense was OFF track.

[membengal]

I wasn't aware the offense was OFF track.


Didn't you see the game today? They are in a deep teamwide slump...the only thing left to do is cut EE/Lopez/Freel and hope against hope that is enough to stem the bleeding...

(Insert "smiley" icon to make sure people note the sarcasm...)

[TeamBoone]

Here comes the Javy bashing. Maybe if he got some at bats once in awhile he would hit like last year.

What? He's played in 15 games and had 50 ABs.

Dave Ross: 9 games, 25 ABs.
Jason LaRue: 6 games, 22 ABs.

[Patrick Bateman]

If you're wrong(and I hope you are), then be prepared to have a certain someone throw it back in your face after the game. :p: He always does it to me when I miss on a prediction.


You just don't get it do you?

Nothing to do about today's game, but I just got in and started reading this thread.

People are wrong all the time and predictions are often wrong. Happens to everyone.

But you seem to make the same prediction over and over after we get off to a slow start to a game. Whenever we give up early runs you usually proclaim the game is over and our chances of winning are slim and none. This season you have been wrong just about every time. You think you would stop posting so emotionally when you are often wrong.

All I'm saying is there is no need to act so emotionally over small samples. For instance, today after one inning the Lizard looked awful. He couldn't finish anyone off and had already given up a 2-run homer. Yet at the end of the day he turned in a respectable performance. To be honest after watching the 1st inning I thought he was going to get shelled, but things happen that we don't always expect.

[OnBaseMachine]

Here's an idea. I'll post the way I want and mind my own business. You post the way you want and stop trying to tell me how I should post.

I've been known to overreact a time or two early in the game, I'll admit that. But last time I checked that wasn't against the rules of the board. If the mods find something wrong with my posts, then I'll gladly change my style. I won't for you.

[MWM]

All I'm saying is there is no need to act so emotionally over small samples.

That's really not your decision to make. When you start your own board you can decide what's "needed" and not needed.

[Patrick Bateman]

Here's an idea. I'll post the way I want and mind my own business. You post the way you want and stop trying to tell me how I should post.

Are you not doing the same thing? Take your own advice.

You act like a crying baby everytime the Reds give up a run. You whine more than my little sister. I wouldn't want to look silly making bone-head predictions every single game, but hey that's your call.

[MWM]

Why don't you let the mods do their job.

[OnBaseMachine]

Are you not doing the same thing? Take your own advice.

You act like a crying baby everytime the Reds give up a run. You whine more than my little sister. I wouldn't want to look silly making bone-head predictions every single game, but hey that's your call.

Looks like I'm going to have to use the ignore feature for the first time.

[Patrick Bateman]

Why don't you let the mods do their job.

Hypocrisy at it's finest.

[Big Klu]

Updated Reds HR list (players in italics are active):

Reds All-Time Home Run Leaders
1. Johnny Bench - 389
2. Frank Robinson - 324
3. Tony Perez - 287
4. Ted Kluszewski - 251
5. George Foster - 244
6. Eric Davis - 203
7. Barry Larkin - 198
8. Vada Pinson - 186
9. Wally Post - 172
10. Adam Dunn - 167
11. Gus Bell - 160
12. Joe Morgan - 152
12. Pete Rose - 152
14. Lee May - 147
15. Ken Griffey, Jr. - 140
16. Dan Driessen - 133
17. Reggie Sanders - 125
18. Ernie Lombardi - 120
19. Sean Casey - 118
20. Frank McCormick - 110
21. Dave Parker - 107
22. Chris Sabo - 104
23. Dave Concepcion - 101
24. Gordy Coleman - 98
25. Paul O'Neill - 96