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VR
05-03-2006, 12:47 PM
Years past saw the bully come out of the gates blazing, only to come back to earth, and consequently suffer greatly from the starter's ineptitude at getting to 7+. A marked change recently, perhaps it's done some of these old dogs well to get their legs rested after a busy start to the season?



The first 7 games they rang up an ERA of 8.50


The last 20 games they have an earnie of 3.08
and...
In the last 12, they've shown a 1.85 earnie, while throwing only 29.1 innings, and a 1.06 whip.

Is it really that bad anymore, now that they're rested and past the post-ST debacle?

westofyou
05-03-2006, 01:07 PM
Hey VR... long time no see, I was in your town the past week or so.

I think attrition has been the BP's achillies heel the past few seasons, if you hav t throw every night then you break down, a guy in the BP is there because their stuff and or health limits their ability to go long. Longer IP per game by the starters will extend the BP further into the season.

traderumor
05-03-2006, 01:14 PM
It also limits the exposure to the back of the bullpen. For example, Rick White has been getting the job done lately in shorter stints. I'm thinking that Hammond hasn't pitched since the Saturday Milwaukee blowout.

FeartheEars
05-03-2006, 01:46 PM
I think the bullpenners getting defined roles has helped their success as well. Coffey is your set up man/stopper, Weathers is your closer, Merker is the lefty specialist, and Belisle is the long relief. The rest have seen reduced roles. White has stepped it up but we havent been seeing much of Hammond and Shackelford lately.

Gainesville Red
05-03-2006, 01:51 PM
If you don't get to pitch as much you don't get as many chances to screw it up. Here's to hoping Aaron and Bronson can continue pitching deep.

letsgojunior
05-03-2006, 02:00 PM
Years past saw the bully come out of the gates blazing, only to come back to earth, and consequently suffer greatly from the starter's ineptitude at getting to 7+. A marked change recently, perhaps it's done some of these old dogs well to get their legs rested after a busy start to the season?



The first 7 games they rang up an ERA of 8.50


The last 20 games they have an earnie of 3.08
and...
In the last 12, they've shown a 1.85 earnie, while throwing only 29.1 innings, and a 1.06 whip.

Is it really that bad anymore, now that they're rested and past the post-ST debacle?

Hey man... good to have you back!

VR
05-03-2006, 02:46 PM
Hey man... good to have you back!


the sabbatical is over ;)

James B.
05-03-2006, 07:06 PM
I am kind of worried that Coffey and Weathers are being overworked. Maybe the Reds will make a trade soon and get them guys some help.

LexingtonRedsFan
05-03-2006, 07:44 PM
I think the rested bullpen and some with a lack of work, will come into play when griffey and ross come off of the DL....it will show Krivsky that they can survive with one less arm.....

GridironGrace
05-03-2006, 08:20 PM
Anytime you have 3 and 4 guys run out of ur bullpen for extended # of innings they are gonna

1. Tire out. They are in the Bullpen for a reason, mostly because they cant pitch everyday nor can they throw over a certain pitch count when they do come in.

2. Exposure. IF you gotta run the same guys out for alot of innings, teams will start to KNOW thier stuff, and what they try to do. Especially when they have to come out and face the same team every night in a 3 or 4 game series.

3. More innings by the bullpen is gonna = more Runs by the bullpen, especially our bullpen.

What is helping us is this. Arroyo and Harang are going 7IP+ Williams and Claussen are finding ways to get 6IP+ Milton was doing well for the most part too about QUALITY innings.

So Lately with Arroyo and Harang getting 8 IP and CG's and such it's allowed our Bullpen to well for lack of a better term RESET!!

Everyones available again due to the rest they have gotten, and therefore one we may need in a certain situation 2nite CAN Be used instead of having to settle for the 2nd Best RP we have in "THE SITUATION"

Thats my thoughts on a bullpen, lol whatever thier worth