5/6/06 - Reds vs. Diamondbacks Game Thread

[indyred]

wow the girl behind home plate has a couple of big....drinks

seems those people don't even watch the game in those sweet seats.......

[Falls City Beer]

wow the girl behind home plate has a couple of big....drinks

Dude, you can't drink silicone. :beerme: :cry:

[Big Klu]

Do you hit for Arroyo if the inning dictates?

Yes.

[Reds Fanatic]

Kearns flies out to right. EE goes to 3rd. 2 outs.

[WMR]

Dude, you can't drink silicone. :beerme: :cry:

You can sure as hell try!:laugh:

[reds44]

BP needs a 2 out hit

[KronoRed]

Time for the clutch

[CrackerJack]

Dude, you can't drink silicone. :beerme: :cry:

Oh I think they are both natural fruity beverages, no artificial fillers. :beerme:

[Reds Fanatic]

Phillips grounds out to 1st. 3-1 Dbacks mid 6th.

[smith288]

What kind of AB was that??? Everyone seems to be pressing except Edwin...

[reds44]

We miss Junior more then you think.

[flyer85]

The Zona BP has been good of late.

[George Foster]

Dude, you can't drink silicone. :beerme: :cry:

My wife just got "silicone" her choice, and trust me they are better than I ever thought they would be.:thumbup:

[OnBaseMachine]

Reds strand yet another runner against Claudio Vargas of all people.

Going 1-4 on a roadtrip to Coors Field and Chase Field is brutal.

[WMR]

This has looked like an entirely different team this road-trip. What happened to the consistently patient hitting approach?

This team is so killer when they make the starter work.

[Patrick Bateman]

Actually, Arroyo is showing us something tonight. He's battling against a tough matchup for him. He's had men on all night and has managed to only give up 3 runs and not let it get out of hand. The mark of a good pitcher is when they can battle to keep it respectable on nights they don't have their best stuff. I actually like what I've seen tonight from Arroyo even though they're hitting him pretty good.

Very nice post.

[MWM]

TOO MUCH INFORMATION!

[reds44]

Last night it wasn't the pitching's fault, it was the 8 other guys' fault.

Tonight is more of the same (outside of EE)

[Patrick Bateman]

Going 1-4 on a roadtrip to Coors Field and Chase Field is brutal.

Especially when we are, currently, 1-2 on said trip.

[Reds Fanatic]

Estrada lines a double to left center. His 3rd double of the night.

[OnBaseMachine]

Johnny Estrada=Johnny Bench vs Reds.

[reds44]

My wife just got "silicone" her choice, and trust me they are better than I ever thought they would be.:thumbup:
Pics?????!!!!!!

haha i kid.

[smith288]

Rediculous. This guy is being made to be Johnny friggin Bench tonight.

[Falls City Beer]

Estrada's soul patch is shaved in the shape of the dirt strip from the mound to home plate. It's like freakin' symbolism.

[GAC]

My wife just got "silicone" her choice, and trust me they are better than I ever thought they would be.:thumbup:

down feather pillows are cheaper. ;)

[TheBigLebowski]

F**k.

[flyer85]

Estrada seems to like hitting off of Arroyo

[KronoRed]

This has looked like an entirely different team this road-trip. What happened to the consistently patient hitting approach?

Maybe they started reading how patient they were and decided to change it :help:

[MWM]

Mental error by Arroyo there. He had Estrada 1-2 and he gave him a straight one over the plate.

[KronoRed]

Stop pitching to that guy

[Reds Fanatic]

Hudson grounds out to 2nd. Runner goes to 3rd.
Easley pinch hitting for Vargas.

[smith288]

FSN's graphic on top is really on its game. (its showing Estrada on 2nd - Grande must be workin the controls)

[George Foster]

Reds strand yet another runner against Claudio Vargas of all people.

Going 1-4 on a roadtrip to Coors Field and Chase Field is brutal.

Not really, both teams are over .500 for the year, and both teams were considered "hot."

[smith288]

Nice stab Phillips

[OnBaseMachine]

Great catch by Phillips.

[jesusfan]

Huge Play right there!

[Reds Fanatic]

Easley lines out to 2nd. Good diving catch by Phillips saves a run.

[GAC]

Wow!

Thats why BP should be a 2B.... and not Freel. ;)

[MWM]

That first pitch to Cousel was right down the middle. The fake bunt fooled the ump.

[reds44]

nice play

[Reds Fanatic]

Counsell walks. 1st and 3rd with 2 outs.

[VR]

Should be last batter of the night for Bronson.

[saboforthird]

I've not followed Phillips short career, but I like the kid. He reminds me of Barry Larkin. :)

[KronoRed]

Phillips can stink at the plate all he wants if he plays good D

[reds44]

I've not followed Phillips short career, but I like the kid. He reminds me of Barry Larkin. :)
Except the whole different position thing.

[jesusfan]

what a freakin play!!!! wow, nice

[WMR]

Have you read The Last Season, Reds44?

If you're a Laker fan, it should be required reading... The reason Laker management had to pacify Kobe is b/c Kobe wouldn't play w/ Shaq.

Looking at things from the info that Phil Jackson provides in his book, it really seems apparent that Kobe was the one responsible for poisoning the relationship between he and Shaq.

It all comes back to Kobe and his ego. Buss and company would have preferred to keep them both and win a few more championships, but Kobe wasn't having it.

[smith288]

This defense looks night and day from yesterday.

[GAC]

What a play by Hat! WOW!

[OnBaseMachine]

Hatteberg will never do that again in his life.

[Reds Fanatic]

DaVanon grounds out to 1st. Great play by Hatteberg. 3-1 Dbacks after 6.

[jesusfan]

Lets go, score some runs!

[saboforthird]

Dang, NICE play be Hatteberg. The ' D' this season is well.....:D

[reds44]

Haha Arroyo has got to be pulled.

The D has saved him 3 runs tonight.

QS for him though.

[GAC]

Hatteberg will never do that again in his life.

Wanna bet?

He's not as bad as some perceive. ;)

[OnBaseMachine]

Wanna bet?

He's not as bad as some perceive. ;)

He is one of the worst defensive 1B in the game.

[George Foster]

That's all for Arroyo, he kept us in the game along with some great defense. It's time to put up numbers on the ole' scoreboard.

[MWM]

I hope Narron cashes in now whil he's ahead and doesn't try to stretch Arroyo that infamous "one more inning." Take what you got and run. Put Shackleford in the game.

[TheBigLebowski]

I said back in the 2nd that the 'Backs would not get more than 1 additional run off Bronson. Looks like I may be right.....good for him, on a night when he didn't have his best stuff.

[Reds Fanatic]

Luis Vizcaino in to pitch.

Olmedo pinch hitting for Ross.

[Reds Fanatic]

Olmedo flies out to center. 1 out.

[GAC]

He is one of the worst defensive 1B in the game.


BALONEY!

[Reds Fanatic]

Valentin pinch hitting for Arroyo.
Valentin strikes out swinging. 2 outs.

[smith288]

Javier sucks. (jinx myself)

[MWM]

Javier almost falls over every swing.

[flyer85]

BALONEY!well, that settles it.

[smith288]

All they have to do is pitch low and inside to him... will swing and breeze everytime

[smith288]

Two quality PHs there. :rolleyes:

[KronoRed]

well, that settles it.
Settles that baloney is in the thread

Who has the bread and mayo?

[flyer85]

Two quality PHs there. :rolleyes:Denois the best PH the Reds have

[KittyDuran]

Settles that baloney is in the thread

Who has the bread and mayo?Mustard, please! :)

[WMR]

well, that settles it.

Don't you know his nickname is "The Pickin' Machine"??????

[George Foster]

What is Freel doing up there? Someone give him a beer, and settle him down:beerme:

[smith288]

well, that settles it.
I use the very same argument when the deli tries to get all snippy with me.

[VR]

Denois the best PH the Reds have

when did we pick up the Frenchman?

[KronoRed]

Mustard, please! :)
Mustard for Kitty, tomato anyone? :D

[WMR]

What is Freel doing up there? Someone give him a beer, and settle him down:beerme:

Judging from previous actions, I think alcohol is the last thing that should be administered to 'calm down' Ryan Freel. :laugh:

[Reds Fanatic]

Freel pops out to 2nd. 3-1 Dbacks mid 7th.

[jesusfan]

shew... struggle city!

[George Foster]

What is Freel doing up there? Someone give him a beer, and settle him down:beerme:

Freel took one pitch that at bat.

[smith288]

when did we pick up the Frenchman?
It explains our offensive retreat

[reds44]

when did we pick up the Frenchman?
:laugh: :laugh:

[Gallen5862]

I'll take the Ketchup.

[Larry Schuler]

Do you think if we tell the umpire how great Freel's OBP has been the last three years he will let him start the next inning on first base?

[TheBigLebowski]

Looks like runs won't be a problem tonight, folks!!!

We've looked awful tonight against painfully average pitching.

[reds44]

Do you think if we tell the umpire how great Freel's OBP has been the last three years he will let him start the next inning on first base?
If you ask redszone, .OBP is the most important stat in baseball.

[Gallen5862]

How did Arroyo look pitching tonight?

[Reds Fanatic]

Shackelford in to pitch.

Tracy flies out to right. 1 out.

[smith288]

How did Arroyo look pitching tonight?
Like turd relative to his previous starts...but good enough to keep the game within reach.

[KronoRed]

If you ask redszone, .OBP is the most important stat in baseball.
It is :devil:

[Falls City Beer]

Dunn and Encarnacion are the two best offensive players on the team, right?

They are also the two full-time players with the highest OBP on the team.

[Big Klu]

How did Arroyo look pitching tonight?

He struggled tonight, but he battled without his best stuff, and he kept the Reds in the game.

[Reds Fanatic]

Gonzalez pops out to 3rd. 2 outs.

[VR]

I was kinda expecting Freel to come flying into the screen on that popup to Encarnacion

[BoydsOfSummer]

Any offensive event that doesn't end in an out is the most important stat.

[MWM]

If you ask redszone, .OBP is the most important stat in baseball.

What is?

[jesusfan]

Nice Job Schack!

[Reds Fanatic]

Jackson flies out to center. 3-1 Dbacks after 7.

[reds44]

I was kinda expecting Freel to come flying into the screen on that popup to Encarnacion
:laugh:

Keep em coming you are on a roll.



Key inning for the Reds, heart of the order.

[jesusfan]

Lopez-Dunn-EE.... c'mon

[reds44]

Shack is good.

Plain and simple.

[George Foster]

Was I the only one who was hoping that Dunn would catch that last out in front of Freel?:D

[WMR]

What is?

.RISP!!!!!!!

duh! :mooner:

[jesusfan]

More... More... More.... How do you like it?

[Gallen5862]

It was important that Arroyo kept us in the game. It continued to help save the bullpen work.

[Gallen5862]

Great job Shack on the 1 2 3 inning.

[GAC]

Arroyo, even on an "off" night, kept us in this game. Our impatience at the plate has cost us.

[Reds Fanatic]

Brandon Lyon in to pitch. Tony Clark in to play 1st and bat 9th.

[reds44]

FeLo should bunt

[Reds Fanatic]

Lopez strikes out swinging. 1 out.

[Reds Fanatic]

Dunn flies out to center. 2 outs.

[TheBigLebowski]

I'm geting really tired of Adam Dunn.

[Reds Fanatic]

Encarnacion grounds out to short. 3-1 Dbacks mid 8th.

[savafan]

What is?

Team Winning Percentage :thumbup:

[reds44]

That was an impressivly bad inning.

[flyer85]

I'm geting really tired of Adam Dunn.trade his butt

[smith288]

Your welcome Diamondbacks... we want to make sur eyou get home at a decent Bucky "bleeping" Dent hour

[jesusfan]

Freel and Dunn at a robust .237, and .238 respectively!!

[George Foster]

That was a horrible inning. No patience.

[TheBigLebowski]

This west coast trip has made us look painfully average.

[MWM]

I'm geting really tired of Adam Dunn.

Me too, because the rest of the offense is raking right now.

[BUTLER REDSFAN]

this team seems to sleepwalk everytime they go to the western states year in and year out..its like they have permanent jet lag

[flyer85]

if they couldn't get to Vargas they were unlikely to score off their pen

[reds44]

Freel and Dunn at a robust .237, and .238 respectively!!
OBP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It also amazes me how Dunn has 11 hr's but only 19 rbi's.

[TheBigLebowski]

Honestly...he'll be hitting less than .240 at the end of tonight's game.

He has 19 RBI's and 11 HR's.

Guy is allergic to doing anything useful with runners on base.

I've almost reached my Adam Dunn Breaking Point.

[Falls City Beer]

if they couldn't get to Vargas they were unlikely to score off their pen

They're two bats and one big starter away from mopping up the NL West for several years in a row. Now that Depodesta's gone from LA.

[Patrick Bateman]

This west coast trip has made us look painfully average.

Surprising how playing on the road against 2 hot above average teams makes a team look average.

Last week we made the Cards and the Astros look average.

I don't think they are done yet.

[MWM]

OBP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It also amazes me how Dunn has 11 hr's but only 19 rbi's.

So you think BA is more important to look at?

[Reds Fanatic]

Mercker in to pitch.

Green doubles to left center.

[TheBigLebowski]

Me too, because the rest of the offense is raking right now.

You seem to just want to argue...I'll be happy to engage you in said argument.

[George Foster]

Green padding the stats!!!

[Reds Fanatic]

Estrada grounds out to short. 1 out.

[jesusfan]

I said the same thing last night... "Atleast the Astros lost!"

[Big Klu]

Hudson with the rare double flapped helmet. Is this Little League?

Switch-hitter.

[reds44]

So you think BA is more important to look at?
No.

They are both important. You can't throw out a sucky batting for a good OBP. Yes I know I am going to get ripped for this and some of you will take it to an extreme and say I said he should never walk, but his job isn't to get on base. It is to get people off of base (drive them in). I'd much rather sacrifice 20 points of his OBP and add them to his average.

Like someone else said.
He has 11 homers and 19 rbi's. He is allergic to doing anything with men on base.

[Reds Fanatic]

Hudson strikes out looking. 2 outs.

[MWM]

You seem to just want to argue...I'll be happy to engage you in said argument.

Well, can you do any better than BA, RISP, or RBI? Because those arguments have been routinely debunked on this site without any real challenges.

[TheBigLebowski]

Nice K

[George Foster]

That was the Merker of old. To bad he's just to old to do it more.

[BUTLER REDSFAN]

is it my imagination or has arizona had a runner at second base the whole game?

[MWM]

Like someone else said.
He has 11 homers and 19 rbi's. He is allergic to doing anything with men on base.

And I'm sure that has nothing to do with the fact that pitchers are allergic to throwing anything near the plate to Adam Dunn with runners on. If you look at his splits or watch the games, it becomes painfully obvious that when guys are on base, the opposing pitchers aren't giving him anythign to hit.

[jesusfan]

yeah... we're very lucky to be down only 3-1....

[reds44]

And I'm sure that has nothing to do with the fact that pitchers are allergic to throwing anything near the plate to Adam Dunn with runners on.
Oh please.

It is never Adam Dunn's fault.

[Reds Fanatic]

Clark grounds out to 3rd. 3-1 Dbacks after 8.

[Larry Schuler]

The ump just saved a run.

And what has Freel's OBP been the last 10 games?

[Reds Fanatic]

Hatteberg, Kearns and Phillips due up in the 9th.

[Big Klu]

Overall, solid pitching tonight. Arroyo didn't have his best stuff, but he battled for six innings and kept the Reds in the game. Shackelford and Mercker each chipped in with one effective inning of relief.

Now let's get the bats going!

[smith288]

is it my imagination or has arizona had a runner at second base the whole game?
Its a new rule or something. Inning starts with a man on second.

[jesusfan]

Okay... we can hit this Valverde chump!

[reds44]

And I'm sure that has nothing to do with the fact that pitchers are allergic to throwing anything near the plate to Adam Dunn with runners on. If you look at his splits or watch the games, it becomes painfully obvious that when guys are on base, the opposing pitchers aren't giving him anythign to hit.
Somehow guys like Pujols, Bonds, Thome, etc. find ways to drive in.

They are much more feared hitters then Adam Dunn.

[MWM]

Oh please.

It is never Adam Dunn's fault.

Really, so you're saying I'm wrong. He gets plenty to hit with men on?

[Falls City Beer]

Well, can you do any better than BA, RISP, or RBI? Because those arguments have been routinely debunked on this site without any real challenges.

Dude, don't even bother. It was like trying to speak another language when I tried to argue with him the other night about the Coors effect.

[reds44]

4 earned runs the last 2 days

most likely 2 losses

terrible

[flyer85]

walks and a dinger is the only hope

[MWM]

Dude, don't even bother. It was like trying to speak another language when I tried to argue with him the other night about the Coors effect.

Yeah, I kept telling myself I would refrain but I was pulled in tonight for the last time. I sometimes wonder if some folks are still driving a horse and buggy.

[jesusfan]

Good Eye Hatte!

[smith288]

4 earned runs the last 2 days

most likely 2 losses

terrible
Getting into on of those times where the hitting cant synch with the pitching or vice versa.... or the d just ruins a game for us.

[Reds Fanatic]

Jose Valverde in to pitch.

Hatteberg leads off with a walk.

[jesusfan]

Lets go Ears.... Get into one!

[VR]

That was the Merker of old. To bad he's just to old to do it more.


He's actually pitched some of the best baseball of his life the last 4 years.

[Larry Schuler]

KEARNS needs to go DEEP.

[jesusfan]

That was close....

[smith288]

Kearns should be walking back to the dugout...horrible call...but ok.

[VR]

When Kearns remembers how to drop the bat head down on those inside pitches, lights out NL. He's got such opposite field prowess, but he's got to prove he can't be pitched hard inside.

[jesusfan]

Kearns is battling!

[Larry Schuler]

The Colonel teases us with impressive fouls.

[KronoRed]

I echo the words Kearns just said

[jesusfan]

PO to counsell! 1 down, lets go BP

[Reds Fanatic]

Kearns pops out to short. 1 out.

[Cant Touch This]

This sucks. No TV in Vegas, because the D'backs are one of our SIX home teams. What a freakin' joke. So any time the Reds are in Arizona, LA, San Diego, or San Fran, I won't get the game. I loathe blackout policies.

[reds44]

I echo the words Kearns just said
:thumbup:

[jesusfan]

swung at ball 3...

[Larry Schuler]

Setting things up for the Olmedo 3 run homer.

[KronoRed]

Phillips swinging at stuff he can't touch

[jesusfan]

ANOTHER FREAKIN PO! 2 down

[Reds Fanatic]

Phillips breaks his bat and fouls out to 2nd. 2 outs.

[VR]

Brandon wants no part of a walk, having swung at balls 3 and 4, and quite possibly 1 and 2 also.

[reds44]

BP swung at ball 3 and 4

[savafan]

I sometimes wonder if some folks are still driving a horse and buggy.

You mean like the Amish? :devil:

[Big Klu]

Setting things up for the Olmedo 3 run homer.

Olmedo already pinch-hit earlier in the game.

[Falls City Beer]

Phillips swinging at stuff he can't touch

It's a good habit. It's in the primer of scrappiness.

[Reds Fanatic]

McCracken pinch hitting for Mercker.
McCracken grounds into a 4-6 fielder's choice. Reds lose 3-1.

[reds44]

Swung at a pitch at his eyes

[jesusfan]

Pitch right down the ole cod, and he takes it!

[GAC]

You mean like the Amish? :devil:

Amish are old school ;)

[jesusfan]

Reds you suck! Bye

[flyer85]

ANOTHER FREAKIN PO! 2 downValverde has nasty stuff. His weakness is walks and an elevated HR rate but he misses lots of bats

[flynn78]

Shoot!

[reds44]

Then took one right down central

[KronoRed]

We have to trust Dave Williams to avoid the sweep :help:

[flynn78]

We have to trust Dave Williams to avoid the sweep :help:
Kind of like trusting a used car salesman not to rip you off;)

[TheBigLebowski]

Unreal. Bad loss.

[flyer85]

We have to trust Dave Williams to avoid the sweep :help:I feel safe in predicting that one run won't cut it for the Reds on Sunday

[Big Klu]

I don't remember seeing a single Red Roof Inn commercial. Have we lost our mojo?!

[CTA513]

I think last years Reds might have showed up.

[flyer85]

that 20-11 record sure sucks

[savafan]

Amish are old school ;)

Yes, and they are scrappe

[CTA513]

that 20-11 record sure sucks

Good record, but they seem to be lost lately when people are on base.

[flyer85]

Good record, but they seem to be lost lately when people are on base.they should be 31-0

[MWM]

Coming off winning 4 out of 5 against the Cards and Astros after sweeping the Nats, this road trip was almost inevitable. I'm not that worried about it. This happens even to good teams. Their next 9 games are against the Nats, Phils, and Bucs and 6 of them are at home. THAT'S when we'll learn about what this team is made of. These types of road trips don't tell us much.

[CTA513]

they should be 31-0

they should also all have 0.00 ERAs and strike out every batter they face.

[flyer85]

the season is nothing but a series of ups and down. Hopefully in the end it will have more ups than downs. They are going through a bit of a slump at the moment with the bats. I for one am not worried about the offense. It will be the quality of the pitching that will determine the ultimate success of the 2006 Reds

[flyer85]

they should also all have 0.00 ERAs and strike out every batter they face.Exactly. They should never lose.

[CTA513]

Exactly. They should never lose.

Narron should be fired for allowing the Reds to lose 11 games.

[flyer85]

Narron should be fired for allowing the Reds to lose 11 games.and all the players released and the team disbanded.

[CTA513]

and all the players released and the team disbanded.

the players will be released but they will keep the team and fill it with only out of shape ex-football players.

[Big Klu]

No changes tonight.


Updated Reds HR list (players in italics are active):

Reds All-Time Home Run Leaders
1. Johnny Bench - 389
2. Frank Robinson - 324
3. Tony Perez - 287
4. Ted Kluszewski - 251
5. George Foster - 244
6. Eric Davis - 203
7. Barry Larkin - 198
8. Vada Pinson - 186
9. Wally Post - 172
10. Adam Dunn - 169
11. Gus Bell - 160
12. Joe Morgan - 152
12. Pete Rose - 152
14. Lee May - 147
15. Ken Griffey, Jr. - 140
16. Dan Driessen - 133
17. Reggie Sanders - 125
18. Ernie Lombardi - 120
19. Sean Casey - 118
20. Frank McCormick - 110
21. Dave Parker - 107
22. Chris Sabo - 104
23. Dave Concepcion - 101
24. Gordy Coleman - 98
25. Paul O'Neill - 96

[OnBaseMachine]

After a most likely 1-4 roadtrip, anything less than 6-3 vs the Nats, Phillies, and Pirates would be a huge disappointment.

[Patrick Bateman]

After a mostly 1-4 roadtrip, anything less than 6-3 vs the Nats, Phillies, and Pirates would be a huge disappointment.

Honestly, no need to throw away the next game so easily as bad of a match-up as it looks.

As bad as Williams is, the Reds have won 3 out of his 5 starts. When our offense shows up they can match Williams' crappines. They aren't playing great right now, but they could bust out any time. There is a chance.

[OnBaseMachine]

After a mostly 1-4 roadtrip, anything less than 6-3 vs the Nats, Phillies, and Pirates would be a huge disappointment.

Doh! What the hell was I thinking there. That is supposed to read, "After a most likely" 1-4 roadtrip, not mostly.

[Patrick Bateman]

Doh! What the hell was I thinking there. That is supposed to read, "After a most likely" 1-4 roadtrip, not mostly.

Ah, I thought the word "mostly" didn't fit in. That makes sense.

[KronoRed]

they should be 31-0
Even that's not good enough.

[GAC]

We have to trust Dave Williams to avoid the sweep :help:

Hernandez ain't lookin' any better at 2-3, with a 6.39 ERA, 1.55 WHIP

In his last start vs the Dodgers, he got the win yet yielded six runs, nine hits and a pair of walks in 3 2/3 innings against the Dodgers on Tuesday. LA won 10-8.

Lets hope we helps us break out of our mini offensive slump.

[Falls City Beer]

Hernandez ain't lookin' any better at 2-3, with a 6.39 ERA, 1.55 WHIP

In his last start vs the Dodgers, he got the win yet yielded six runs, nine hits and a pair of walks in 3 2/3 innings against the Dodgers on Tuesday. LA won 10-8.

Lets hope we helps us break out of our mini offensive slump.

Hernandez is just asking to get better though. He's K-ing people at well better than a batter per inning. He's been unbelievably hit unlucky. I expect today is the day he starts to turn it around, against a severely slumping offense at the end of a bad road trip.